Mid-Sept. 2001 U.S. demands that the Taliban hand over bin Laden and al-Qaeda members.
The Taliban offers to turn over bin Laden if presented with evidence of his guilt. They also suggest that they will allow him to be tried by Muslim clerics.
Oct. 7 The U.S. begings bombing strategic Taliban sites in Afghanistan
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ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (AP)
Taliban ambassador to Pakistan, Abdul Salam Zaeef, spoke after President Bush warned Afghanistan must hand over bin Laden and his lieutenants "or they will share their fate."
"Our position on this is that if America has proof, we are ready for the trial of Osama bin Laden in light of the evidence," Zaeef said. ------------------
"In response to the attacks, the Taliban offered to bring Bin Laden to trial; before the bombing campaign, in an Islamic court, and, after the war began, in a Pakistani court. For this, the Taliban asked to receive recognition of their legitimacy by Western powers, and President Bush responded by saying, "When I said no negotiations, I meant no negotiations." (New York Times, 10/16/01)"
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Osama put out a video today... Americans cant walk down the street in Iraq now, or they will be murdered, Iraq is now a terrorist training camp. Bush has installed a cetralized power form of government that has total control of all natural resources , the oil, that is a guaranteed recipe for a right or left wing dictatorship to amerge as the leaders of Iraq. And Osama is still at large.
Soudi Arabia the nesting ground of the terrorists that atacked us on 911 and osamas homeland still a dictatorship controlled by the saad family,and is heavily invested in US military defence contracting companys .. WE the citizens send king saad Millitary aid in the form of billions in cash that he sends back to america to buy weapons from US companys that he owns .. It's to ****ered up to believe.
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quote:Originally posted by kilhs: Osama put out a video today... Americans cant walk down the street in Iraq now, or they will be murdered, Iraq is now a terrorist training camp. Bush has installed a cetralized power form of government that has total control of all natural resources , the oil, that is a guaranteed recipe for a right or left wing dictatorship to amerge as the leaders of Iraq. And Osama is still at large.
Soudi Arabia the nesting ground of the terrorists that atacked us on 911 and osamas homeland still a dictatorship controlled by the saad family,and is heavily invested in US military defence contracting companys .. WE the citizens send king saad Millitary aid in the form of billions in cash that he sends back to america to buy weapons from US companys that he owns .. It's to ****ered up to believe.
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Of course. That's why he'll never be "captured."
quote:Originally posted by bdgee: Am I the only one that has noticed that every time the shrubery gets its butt in a hopeless pit, we hear from Ben Laden?
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I have noticed that to polls down political pressure good old George W. when he is hated more than uasual its time for the old Ben Laden out the hat trick. Its very plain to see. 1968 George W.'s favorite song, They Call Me Mellow Yellow
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BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraqi nationalist rebels in the Sunni Arab city of Ramadi have turned against their former al Qaeda allies after a bomb attack this month killed 80 people, sparking tit-for-tat assassinations. ADVERTISEMENT click here
Residents told Reuters on Monday at least three prominent figures on both sides were among those killed after local insurgent groups formed an alliance against al Qaeda, blaming it for massacring police recruits in Ramadi on January 5.
"There was a meeting right after the bombings," one Ramadi resident familiar with the events said. "Tribal leaders and political figures gathered to form the Anbar Revolutionaries to fight al Qaeda in Anbar and force them to leave the province.
"Since then there has been all-out war between them," said the resident in the capital of the sprawling western desert province of Anbar, speaking anonymously for fear of reprisals.
Local Iraqi officials confirmed residents' accounts of events but declined to comment publicly.
The bloodshed is the latest example of a trend U.S. military commanders and diplomats have been pointing to optimistically in recent months as a sign that some militants may be ready to pursue negotiable demands through the new Sunni Arab engagement in parliament after taking part in last month's election.
On Thursday, three local Islamist groups around Ramadi -- the 1920 Brigades, the Mujahideen Army and the Islamic Movement for Iraq's Mujahideen -- also met to distance themselves from their fellow Islamists in Qaeda, joining the shift against al Qaeda led by more secular, tribal and nationalist groups.
The pan-Arab Al Hayat newspaper quoted a statement from six Iraqi armed groups on Monday announcing they had united to form the "People's Cell" to confront Zarqawi and preserve security in the Anbar province.
The statement condemned "armed operations which target innocents" and affirmed "a halt to cooperation with al Qaeda."
Both sides have distributed leaflets in the city of half a million claiming killings of opponents.
"Qaeda announces the killing of someone in the Revolutionaries and then the others announce they have killed someone in Qaeda," the resident said.
Another resident following events closely said: "The conflict is now clear between the militant groups and al Qaeda; the Anbar Revolutionaries who were formed after the attacks say they want to eliminate al Qaeda from Anbar."
SUICIDE BOMBINGS
It comes at a time when violence by al Qaeda, committed to a single Islamic state in the Arab world, slackened in Anbar and increased further east, notably in Diyala province northeast of Baghdad, where the Iraqi military has alerted troops to be on the lookout for al Qaeda in Iraq's leader, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
Nationalist militants -- some followers of Saddam Hussein's secular Baath party, others loyal to tribal chiefs -- have voiced increasing frustration with the tactics of al Qaeda in Iraq; keen for a say in parliament, they warned al Qaeda not to attack Sunni Arabs going to vote in the December 15 election.
The international Islamists' suicide bombings, especially those targeting civilians, have been counterproductive, some other insurgent spokesmen have said in recent months. Though influenced by foreign leaders, most al Qaeda fighters are Iraqi.
Since U.S. forces overthrew Saddam's Sunni-dominated government in 2003, disparate Iraqi groups have made common cause with foreign Islamists like Zarqawi and their Iraqi supporters, seeking to force out U.S. troops and bring down the U.S.-backed government of Shi'ites and Kurds.
The foreign-backed groups have brought in young suicide bombers while local insurgents have provided explosives and intelligence; there are signs, however, that their goals may be diverging, with some nationalists seeing political negotiation in Baghdad as a way of attaining some of their goals.
Among victims of the killings in Ramadi, residents said, was Hameed Faisal, a university professor killed after the Revolutionaries denounced Qaeda leaders named Abu Khattab and Abu Maad. In a reprisal, residents said, a militant named Medhat Abu Mustafa was killed and Qaeda claimed the assassination of an Islamist leader, Nasser Abdul Karim, an opponent of al Qaeda.
U.S. Major General Rick Lynch said in Baghdad last week: "We are seeing examples of Iraqi rejectionists (nationalists) taking up arms and informing on terrorists and foreign fighters.
"We are seeing this in Ramadi."
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The only people who will join the Iraq police are young men who have no jobs and are starving . A 21 year old would have no job his whole adult life. even Sadam employed his people.. Bush has Haliburton outsourcing nearly all work in Iraq. a percetage of work must go through a Iraq government jobs program. But those in charge of it are corupt and the selling of contracts eats up all the money .
Bush put price controls on gasoline in Iraq, and gave all oil and gas to the government, It is so corrupt that the gas is sold out the back door of gas stations at ten times the price controls... Iraqis sleep in their cars for up to three days to get a tank of gas.
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