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well, Murtha is a wee bit old to run in '08, he's 73 now...
but after reading a little bit about what he's really been saying i just can't believe how many people, the "liberal" media included, have been misquoting him....
seems as tho he's making a difference anyway...
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Yep, can't say I agree with him on everything, since, down here in Texas, we don't get much idea what damnyankee pols do advocate to agree with or not, but I sure like what he's "pointing out" about our being in Iraq and what that will do to us in the long run.
"I believe before the Iraqi elections, scheduled for mid December, the Iraqi people and the emerging government must be put on notice that the United States will immediately redeploy. All of Iraq must know that Iraq is free. Free from United States occupation. I believe this will send a signal to the Sunnis to join the political process for the good of a “free” Iraq.
"To immediately redeploy U.S. troops consistent with the safety of U.S. forces. To create a quick reaction force in the region. To create an over- the- horizon presence of Marines. To diplomatically pursue security and stability in Iraq"
He wants to pull out of Iraq into a neighboring country where we can rapidly redeploy back in if needed.
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: If he's wrong? why are the GOP's lying about his proposals?
he never said he wanted to pull out of Iraq....
"Staying the course in Iraq is not an option or a policy. I believe we must begin discussions for an immediate re-deployment of U.S. forces from Iraq. I believe it can be accomplished in as little as six months but it must be consistent with the safety of U.S. troops. We must insist that the Iraqis step up and seize their own destiny."
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To immediately redeploy U.S. troops consistent with the safety of U.S. forces. To create a quick reaction force in the region. To create an over- the- horizon presence of Marines. To diplomatically pursue security and stability in Iraq"
re-deployment is not leaving....
he isn't asking for an immediate withdrawal
you guys don't read very carefully....
maybe Murtha has people in the pentagon counciling him that know of what they speak
and of course it is silly to think he would run for president
strider ? you say you were an officer in the military and you don't know what re-deploy means?
BTW? i don't think the current admin ever intends for US to leave Iraq.... and they are being pushed into just that....
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Glass... when do you anticipate you will be returning to reality? Re-deploy means leave... come on man you are smarter than this. If they are not leaving then where are they re-deploying to? Immediately re-deploy... that means leave immediately... man you crack me up at times.
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quote:Originally posted by RiescoDiQui: Glass... when do you anticipate you will be returning to reality? Re-deploy means leave... come on man you are smarter than this. If they are not leaving then where are they re-deploying to? Immediately re-deploy... that means leave immediately... man you crack me up at times.
no you are the one who isn't in reality , yuou in some rove matrix, go to his website and READ HIS WORDS not some halfa$$ed quotes that come from who knows where....
My plan calls:
To immediately redeploy U.S. troops consistent with the safety of U.S. forces. To create a quick reaction force in the region. To create an over- the- horizon presence of Marines. To diplomatically pursue security and stability in Iraq
This war needs to be personalized. As I said before I have visited with the severely wounded of this war. They are suffering.
quote:Originally posted by glassman: aren't you guys getting tired of all the spin?
Murtha was calling for a drastic change in the way we are fighting and the bozo's changed it into just what you think you heard....
There is no spin. It is pretty clear from Murtha's quote that he wants pull out of Iraq.
so are we staying there forever? or what? Murtha wasn't saying pull tents and leave tomorrow... he was saying get a plan, and saying that part of that plan is to let the Iraqi's have some space of their own...they seem to want that too...
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Glass, it is you in the rougue matrix... Immediately redeploy means leave now... Come on man... even you can't try to spin this. "To diplomatically pursue security and stability in Iraq" LOL dipplomacy in a war zone... lol... you peaceniks just crack me up... This is war... NOT a friggen hug-fest.. I have news for all you peaceniks out there... the world is NOT a nice place... evil is everywhere and to win we must KILL evil... not hug it and hope it knows we love it...
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: so why aren't we killin' 'em then?
besides? i see better prey to the east Iraq....
Murtha wasn't saying cut-n-run...
Glass... yes.. to the east... Part of the reason we went to Iraq was to cut off an escape route when we eventually go to Iran.. I've told you this many times but you keep forgetting. This next bit is important so please pay attention... RE-DEPLOY IMMEDIATELY... DOES MEAN TO LEAVE IMMEDIATELY
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the problem is that the Iranians are Shiia and i don't think that we are gonna "win over" the Shiia in Iraq... yeah, they are negotiating with US for now, but IMO the religion will bind them....and the Iranians are counting on that.
set up US camps outside of Baghdad? that's where i think Murtha is headed and i think he's right... we can't keep patrolling their streets and doing their police work....
one little bit at a time..make it look like we are giving a concession to the Iraqi's...
strider, it's politics: always ask for more than you want, and if he meant withdraw? he woulda said withdraw, thats what the gop's said not Murtha
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LOL... glass you are clueless... No$hit we are going to let the Iraqis police themselves... This has been known the whole time by anyone with a brain better than a squash. NO ONE EVER SAID WE WOULD BE THERE FOREVER. And I don't care if the Iranians like what we're doing or not... we are about to light up their nights... so who cares what they think. Glass it is obvious you don't read anything I write... If you did you would remember me telling you all this MANY times in the past.
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It is time someone pointed directly at some of the lies coming from the GOP about Murtha.
Well, either lies or maybe well meant ignorance by choice.
What is this BS about what redepoly means?
It means exasctly what Murtha said it means. It IS NOT a synonym for "pull out" or "desert" or "cut and run" or "remove" or "vanish" any of the other lies concocted by the GOP.
1. To move (military forces) from one combat zone to another. 2. To shift (something) from one place or use to another for greater effectiveness: redeploy the company's resources.
Now, how about some respect for truth instead of regurgitation of the Party line falsifications of what redeploy means.
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re·de·ploy Pronunciation Key (rd-ploi) tr.v. re·de·ployed, re·de·ploy·ing, re·de·ploys 1. To move (military forces) from one combat zone to another. 2. To shift (something) from one place or use to another for greater effectiveness: redeploy the company's resources.
3TO LEAVE You guys are desperate since the vote showed there was absolutely no backing for an immediate re-deployment... now all you commies are back pedalling in the hopes we forget... commies are so pathetic.
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Murtha said right into the cameras and i saw him say that he just wants to disengage, and i SUSPECT he has confidants in the pentagon that he is getting this position from....
i really was joking about him being president...
i think they are looking for a standown for a breather.... and i think it's cuz Iran is going to get warm...
comeon DQR look at the RESOURCES.....
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Glass, between the two of us I am the one looking at resources... I am also the only one with a grasp of the english language. We are not going to back out of Iraq because Iran is getting "hot". The plan all along was for Iran to get "hot" about the time we are wrapping up in Iraq. Ofcourse I don't expect you to remember that I've told you this many, many, MANY, MANY times.
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