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4Art
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Monday, September 26th, 2005
My First Time

A message from Cindy Sheehan

The rumors are true this time. I was arrested in front of the White House today. It was my first time ever being arrested.

We proceeded from Lafayette Park to the Guard House at the White House. I, my sister, and other Gold Star Families for Peace members and some Military Families requested to meet with the President again. We again wanted to know: What is the Noble Cause? Our request was, to our immense shock and surprise, denied. They wouldn't even deliver any letters or pictures of our killed loved ones to the White House.

We all know by now why George won't meet with parents of the soldiers he has killed who disagree with him. First of all, he hates it when people disagree with him. I am not so sure he hates it as much as he is in denial that it even happens. Secondly, he is a coward who arrogantly refuses to meet with the people who pay his salary. Maybe the next time one of us is asked by our bosses to have a performance review, or we are told we are going to be written up for a workplace infraction, we should refuse to go and talk to our bosses citing the fact that the President doesn't have to. The third reason why he won't talk to us is that he knows there is no Noble Cause for the invasion and continued occupation of Iraq. It is a question that has no true answer.

After we were refused a meeting with the Disconnected One, we went over to right in front of our house, the White House, (in front of the gate of course) and we sat down and refused to move until George came out and talked to us. We actually had a good time singing old church songs and old protest songs while we waited. I tied a picture of Casey on the White House fence and apparently, that is against the law, too.

After three warnings to get up and move off of the sidewalk in front of our house, we were arrested. It is so ironic to me that the person who resides in our White House swears to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America. The person who is the (p)resident of the White House now has no concept of the Constitution. He was appointed by the Supreme Court for his first term, invaded and continues to occupy a sovereign country without a declaration of war from the Congress, and violated several treaties to actually invade Iraq, too. Not to mention the condoned torture that pervades the military prisons these days. These are all violations of the Constitution. The Patriot Act and denying us our rights to peaceably assemble are serious breaches of the Bill of Rights. George is so hypocritically concerned about Iraq developing a Constitution while he ignores and shreds our own Constitution.

Being arrested is not a big deal. Even though we were arrested for "demonstrating without a permit" we were protesting something that is much more serious than sitting on a sidewalk: the tragic and needless deaths of tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis and Americans (both in Iraq and here in America) who would be alive if it weren't for the criminals who reside in and work in the White House.

Karl Rove (besides just being a very creepy man) outed a CIA agent and was responsible for endangering many of our covert agents worldwide. Dick Cheney's old company is reaping profits beyond anyone's wildest imaginations in their no-bid contracts in Iraq, Afghanistan, and New Orleans. John Negroponte's activities in South America are very shady and murderous. Rumsfeld and Gonzales are responsible for illegal and immoral authorization, encouragement and approval of torture. Not to mention, violating Geneva Conventions, torture endangers the lives of our service men and women in Iraq. Along with the above mentioned traitors, Condi lied through her teeth in the insane run-up to the invasion. The list of crimes this administration has committed is extensive, abhorrent, and unbelievable. What is so unbelievable is that WE were arrested for exercising our first amendment rights and these people are running free to enjoy their lives of crime and to wreak havoc on the world.

The fine for "demonstrating without a permit" is $75.00. I am certain that I won't pay it. My court date is November 16th. Any lawyers out there want to help me challenge an unconstitutional law?

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"Congress shall make no law respecting....the right

of the people peaceably to assemble,

and to petition the government for a redress of

grievances."



I can see that it is clearly very difficult it is to understand what "no" means.

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can't you see that she wasn't peaceable??? [Roll Eyes]

she stopped moving, that is a violent act... [Eek!]

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In front of the White House, no less. How dare she! [Big Grin] LOL
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Yeah and that damned heavy picture was making the fence sag.
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in front of the whitehouse oh how terrible just think of that an american that thinks it might be there capitol. and the person elected to serve is a guest there. how dare they. imho she has more right to be at the capitol than george bush does. all i know in america we have the bill of rights,thank you mr. daniel shay, that mr bush has decided to dump on give me a break. he has no mandate by the people he lost the first time and the supreme court picked him and did not win by that great a margin the secound time.
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I'm not 100% convinced he ever won.
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Suprised? Really?

quote:
Originally posted by 4Art:
Monday, September 26th, 2005
My First Time

A message from Cindy Sheehan

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Our request was, to our immense shock and surprise, denied.



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Dear DeportTheWitless,

My investment's doing great! I'm accumulating like crazy!

Cindy Sheehan really struck a nerve with you, didn't she?

I hope your anger, sadness and depression go away, and that you will one day have peace in your tortured soul.

With deep compassion,

4Art


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Originally posted by DeportTheWitless:

How is that QBID investment treating you fart?


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It's time to move to Canada and let these
bas_ar_s fight their own oil war.

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Didn't the President meet with her at one time?
That's all I'm gonna say.
This woman lost a child and
I'm sure it was a terrible time for her.

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All I'm going to say is that DeportTheWitless guy was right on the money

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quote:
Originally posted by Johnwayne:
Didn't the President meet with her at one time?
That's all I'm gonna say.
This woman lost a child and
I'm sure it was a terrible time for her.

No, the president did not meet with her. He uttered a few words while the cameras took pictures of her in a group of people, then those people were removed from the White house, without being allowed to speak a word. That does not constitute a meeting any more than claiming I met with him when he gave a speach over the TV and I was watching. I was once in a room and listened to Linus Pauling speak, but I certanly had no meeting with him.
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All I'm gonna say is I emailed Cindy S. and asked her if she got a permit to protest in front of the White House, which is what you do if you want to protest there (just ask the anti-war guy who's been there forever) with her sister and she didn't have the cajones to admit to me that no, she did not. I wonder what Cindy S. is up to these days...maybe she's moved on.
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I really don't think expecting her to have "cajones" is a terribly rational position, her being female, you know.

Can you explaint to me why she sould bother to admit or deny anything to you, specifically? And can you explain why her not doing so proves anything?

Am I correct in assuming you did send an email, she didn't tell you she got such a permit, she didn't tell you she didn't get such a permit, and you are using her not bothering with responding to unsolicited and attacking email to claim she wasn't man enough to admit a thing you don't know about one way or the other?

Do you often send unsolicited emails that are answered? Most of us, in this day and time, don't even open or read unsolicited emails and certainly don't bother to answer them. What is her email address, I might want to email her too.

Suppose I email dubya and ask him if he wants to admit knowing there were no WMDs in Iraq for him to invade and find and he doesn't answer with a positive answer (or a negative one). Do I then have the right (or even a reason) to declare that to imply that he hasn't "the cajones to admit to me that" he did know? Essentially, that is what you are doing to Cindy Sheehan.

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Essentially, W. doesn't have cajones. And going to Cindy S.'s website and sending her an email where she specifically designates space for you to do so, isn't, I don't think, considered as being an email sent unsolicited. And women can have cajones in the same sense that certain men can be considered b****es.
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Leo, did you honestly think she would reply?
She probably gets a million emails a day.

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LOL
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I honestly thought she would reply and my heart was broken when she didn't...
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I must have sent her 5 or six tearibly polite, sincere inquireies as to how she went about protesting at the very gate of democracy and she ignored me, nay, she avoided me...ohhh, how could I have been so naive??
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I can tell Leo.. I too know the pain of a broken heart.
I am trying like never before to reach out to bdgee... and all that stretch has resulted in nothing but scorched fingers...
Woe is the road of a true humanitarian.

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4ART? Oh'no, now I really am heading for the bunker! That could be bad luck, could be a sign of Alibaba....
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No worry, Dust..., it's an ancient thread.
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What didn't like my comments. Oh well. Loser.
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scuze us...

try jupiter...

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Why'd this one get revived anyway. Haven't heard of Sheehan for a long time.

Won't say she doesn't have the right to air her feelings and won't say she doesn't have a point.

The White House thing is a pure set up though. She knew exactly what she was doing and was daring them to take action. If they hadn't she would've set up camp out there. As it was they gave her the ammo she needed for her next letter but they stopped a gathering before it could start a flame.

Politics.

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You and he are the same. And you're both wrong. LOL

quote:
Originally posted by Relentless Despot:
All I'm going to say is that DeportTheWitless guy was right on the money



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Yep, the same.....congruency!

Gordon, no, not "both wrong". That strains the common sense as well as the logic.

Wrong both times.

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True bdgee, but he's treating himself as two people, so I was happy to humor him.

LOL

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BUMP

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