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The pro-Bush caravan was coordinated by Move America Forward, a group led by former Republican California Assemblyman Howard Kaloogian and Sal Russo, the strategist who in 2003 launched one of the two simultaneous efforts to recall California's then-governor, Democrat Gray Davis.
Cindy Sheehan is an upset Mom....
these pro-bush caravanners are the political sharks circling...
wanna see a civil war start? in the 60's there was civil war... and 4 college students were murdered at Kent State... this oughta be interesting..unpleasnt but interesting.... in californication? they shoot each other on the hi-ways for honking ... can't wait to see how badly these folks will behave
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quote:Originally posted by 4Art: Why would you want to drive all that way? Bush can't even walk down his driveway to refute Cindy Sheehan.
Bush already met with Cindy. What more can he do for the hag? Her kid signed up for the millitary willingly... as an adult.... It was his choice not hers... not Bush's either... If she should be pissed at anyone she should be pissed at her now dead son. But I guess there would be no paycheck if she was just unhappy with her son's choice... Now would there. I see you are as smart about politics as you are investing or trading.
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I just read your mame calling insulting rant against a poor mother that lost a son. What brings you to demean her with name calling? Perhaps you are just a very sick person.
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: DeportTheWitless,
I just read your mame calling insulting rant against a poor mother that lost a son. What brings you to demean her with name calling? Perhaps you are just a very sick person.
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I feel bad for her, she's too painfull to watch. A lot of different issues going on there, to many to get into here.
"political sharks" ohhh now their circling, they weren't when the stuck this poor woman on t.v 24/7. Can't have it both ways.
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You know what's even more painful to watch? Kids dying in an unwinnable war.
quote:Originally posted by keithsan: I feel bad for her, she's too painfull to watch. A lot of different issues going on there, to many to get into here.
"political sharks" ohhh now their circling, they weren't when the stuck this poor woman on t.v 24/7. Can't have it both ways.
quote:Originally posted by 4Art: You know what's even more painful to watch? Kids dying in an unwinnable war.
quote:Originally posted by keithsan: I feel bad for her, she's too painfull to watch. A lot of different issues going on there, to many to get into here.
"political sharks" ohhh now their circling, they weren't when the stuck this poor woman on t.v 24/7. Can't have it both ways.
yes kids dying is painfull. as well as parents suffering, shouldn't be displayed on t.v.
the death of children is sad whether the war is won or lost. and has been for all other wars both won and lost.
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Hey, when are dubya's kids going to Iraq toting a gun and wearing a specious flak jacket? I'll think about believing his crap about believing in the need for his war when his children are sharing the load.
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And where was this outrage when Clinton took us into Kosovo.. or Somolia? Clinton actually ran out of the country to avoid fighting... atleast GW joined the Gaurd. Admit it.. the facts are not on your side... all you have is hate... emotionally driven irrationality. Cindy's son would denounce and divorce himself from her just as the rest of her family has done... Oh yeah did you know her family has abbondoned her for disgracing her dead son's memory? That man beleived in what he was fighting for. Now his idiot mother is getting paid millions to tell the country that her son was essentially stupid.
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Answer these question before laboring the world with further name calling Party line lies and crap:
I just read your name calling insulting rant against a poor mother that lost a son. What brings you to demean her with name calling? Perhaps you are just a very sick person.
Hey, when are dubya's kids going to Iraq toting a gun and wearing a specious flak jacket? I'll think about believing his crap about believing in the need for his war when his children are sharing the load.
And let me add a thrid. Where was dubya while so many mother's sons were being killed in Viet nam? He sure wasn't on duty in the guard. Yep, brave warrior dubya...suuuuuurre, as long as it's someone else's kis dying and being maimed and as long as the rich get lower taxes so the poor pay to finance the cost of war.
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Little bird, please never procreate. Where are W's kids and why aren't they toting guns? Our millitary is a volunteer force. This means people cannot be forced into the millitary. If his girls don't want to join the millitary they don't have to. This in no way means the choice to go to war in Afghanistan and Iraq was wrong. It is not my problem or W's if you are to mentally incapable to understand the reasons for going to Afghanistan and Iraq. Where was Chealsea when Clinton took us into Kosovo and Somolia? Why is it you are only upset about W? I'm not the one toting the party line... You are.
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"Our millitary is a volunteer force. This means people cannot be forced into the millitary."
That one is pure bull s---! Thousands of the US troups, now in Iraq, volunteered to serve in emergency situations like floods and after storms, at home in the Guard, not in a war to cover up rigged election and based on pure lies. And after serving a full term or two or three on the front lines there, they are "forced" to ramain in a war by arbitrary rulings that they can't get out at the end of their "voluntatry" commiment.
Certainly, if dubya's drug charge dodging daughters don't want to join the military, they don't have to. It's the law. But they, with mama and daddy, claim that it's the duty of red blooded Americans to join and fight and insinuate that those that don't with absolute enthusiasm are un-American. Makes them sort of not really true to the cause they expouse, doesn't it? Or maybe just cowards, like daddy.
I think Chelsea was in England during Kosovo and Somolia.
"Why is it you are only upset about W?" you ask. Well, you have made a mistake. I am not upset about only dubya. I am upset about anyone who subverts the powers of office of OUR government to redistribute money into their family pockets and who puts the US and it's people in harms way for personal gain politican idiology. WHY AREN'T YOU!?!?!?
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: "Our millitary is a volunteer force. This means people cannot be forced into the millitary."
That one is pure bull s---! Thousands of the US troups, now in Iraq, volunteered to serve in emergency situations like floods and after storms, at home in the Guard, not in a war to cover up rigged election and based on pure lies. And after serving a full term or two or three on the front lines there, they are "forced" to ramain in a war by arbitrary rulings that they can't get out at the end of their "voluntatry" commiment.
Certainly, if dubya's drug charge dodging daughters don't want to join the military, they don't have to. It's the law. But they, with mama and daddy, claim that it's the duty of red blooded Americans to join and fight and insinuate that those that don't with absolute enthusiasm are un-American. Makes them sort of not really true to the cause they expouse, doesn't it? Or maybe just cowards, like daddy.
I think Chelsea was in England during Kosovo and Somolia.
"Why is it you are only upset about W?" you ask. Well, you have made a mistake. I am not upset about only dubya. I am upset about anyone who subverts the powers of office of OUR government to redistribute money into their family pockets and who puts the US and it's people in harms way for personal gain politican idiology. WHY AREN'T YOU!?!?!?
quote:Originally posted by glassman: why do the "Bush faithful" always point to Clinton when they need to defend Bush?
I don't know of many that do. If you want to discuss the effects of bin laden including our policy against him and the repercussions of said policies then these 2 presidents need to be in the discussion.
If you are talking Iraq policy you have to go back as far as daddy bush at least, if you want to push it from a longer perspective maybe reagan.
other than that there is no reason to invoke clinton. If we discuss lying under oath then most recent presidents have.
no other reason to take about clinton. maybe to invoke european opinion on kosovo but thats a strethc.
otherwise no point.
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quote:Originally posted by 4Art: More excellent insight, bdgee.
quote:Originally posted by bdgee: "Our millitary is a volunteer force. This means people cannot be forced into the millitary."
That one is pure bull s---! Thousands of the US troups, now in Iraq, volunteered to serve in emergency situations like floods and after storms, at home in the Guard, not in a war to cover up rigged election and based on pure lies. And after serving a full term or two or three on the front lines there, they are "forced" to ramain in a war by arbitrary rulings that they can't get out at the end of their "voluntatry" commiment.
Certainly, if dubya's drug charge dodging daughters don't want to join the military, they don't have to. It's the law. But they, with mama and daddy, claim that it's the duty of red blooded Americans to join and fight and insinuate that those that don't with absolute enthusiasm are un-American. Makes them sort of not really true to the cause they expouse, doesn't it? Or maybe just cowards, like daddy.
I think Chelsea was in England during Kosovo and Somolia.
"Why is it you are only upset about W?" you ask. Well, you have made a mistake. I am not upset about only dubya. I am upset about anyone who subverts the powers of office of OUR government to redistribute money into their family pockets and who puts the US and it's people in harms way for personal gain politican idiology. WHY AREN'T YOU!?!?!?
Yeah, stoploss, speaking from a soldiers perspective....what a joke. We had a guy forced to go in order to get his retirement basiclly. We had a kid whose ETS was at midnight the day before we got mobolized, he had to go. Lots of stories like that. Most of these guys are finally getting out now or got out. Oh, and if your an officer and got out but didn't resign your commission, guess what, you're going too. I didn't mind, for me it was a big adventure, and the adrenaline rush was awesome. But I'm not right in the head. Plus, my grandfather put a campaign medal stipultion in his will. Guess that's what I get for being a third generation Marine turned Army guy.
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I never once believed that Iraq was a threat to the USA. Not even for one minute. Anyone with Internet access and even the slightest curiosity about this could have done some research, (and come to a similar conclusion), prior to the war.
Condaleeza Rice and Colin Powell were even on record saying that Hussein was contained.