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No, not Forrest Gump......these are "ACTUAL QUOTES" made from your court jester....I mean fearless leader.
"The vast majority of our imports come from outside the country."
"I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully."
"See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction." George W. Bush, Oct. 3, 2003
"First, let me make it very clear, poor people aren't necessarily killers. Just because you happen to be not rich doesn't mean you're willing to kill." George W. Bush, May 19, 2003
"Is Our Children Learning"
"They misunderestimated me."
"We need an energy bill that encourages consumption."
"I have learned from mistakes I may or may not have made."
"Nothing can be further than the truth'
"I think the American people I hope the American I don't think, let me I hope the American people trust me."
"In other words, I don't think people ought to be compelled to make the decision which they think is best for their family."
"I suspect that had my dad not been president, he'd be asking the same questions: How'd your meeting go with so and so? How did you feel when you stood up in front of the people for the State of the Union Address state of the budget address, whatever you call it."
"Education is not my top priority"
"But the true threats to stability and peace are these nations that are not very transparent, that hide behind the that don't let people in to take a look and see what they're up to. They're very kind of authoritarian regimes. The true threat is whether or not one of these people decide, peak of anger, try to hold us hostage, ourselves; the Israelis, for example, to whom we'll defend, offer our defenses; the South Koreans." Bush said he wanted his administration to be remembered for making America ``a more literate country and a hopefuller country.'
"I think there is some methodology in my travels."
"They want the federal government controlling Social Security like it's some kind of federal program."
"I am mindful not only of preserving executive powers for myself, but for predecessors as well."
"It's your money. You paid for it."
"Drug therapies are replacing a lot of medicines as we used to know it."
"I'm also honored to be here with the speaker of the House just happens to be from the state of Illinois. I'd like to describe the speaker as a trustworthy man. He's the kind of fellow who says when he gives you his word he means it. Sometimes that doesn't happen all the time in the political process."
"I understand small business growth. I was one."
"Natural gas is hemispheric. I like to call it hemispheric in nature because it is a product that we can find in our neighborhoods."
"I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family."
"The senator has got to understand if he's going to have-he can't have it both ways. He can't take the high horse and then claim the low road."
"I think we agree, the past is over."
"There's no such thing as legacies. At least, there is a legacy, but I'll never see it."
"The most important job is not to be governor, or first lady in my case."
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses."
"If I'm the president, we're going to have emergency-room care, we're going to have gag orders."
"The legislature's job is to write law. It's the executive branch's job to interpret law."
"Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream."
"I think we ought to raise the age at which juveniles can have a gun."
"I am mindful of the difference between the executive branch and the legislative branch. I assured all four of these leaders that I know the difference, and that difference is they pass the laws and I execute them."
"We cannot let terrorists and rogue nations hold this nation hostile or hold our allies hostile.''
"I want you to know that farmers are not going to be secondary thoughts to a Bush administration. They will be in the forethought of our thinking."
"People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history."
"I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future."
"Redefining the role of the United States from enablers to keep the peace to enablers to keep the peace from peacekeepers is going to be an assignment."
"I mean, there needs to be a wholesale effort against racial profiling, which is illiterate children."
"I don't think we need to be subliminable about the differences between our views on prescription drugs."
"I'm hopeful. I know there is a lot of ambition in Washington, obviously. But I hope the ambitious realize that they are more likely to succeed with success as opposed to failure."
'"You teach a child to read and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test."
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Doesn't really matter what Kerry has been quoted as saying. He's not your president. Yes, I voted for Kerry, but it was not my love of Kerry that pulled the lever.....it was my hatred of Bush. I'd have voted for any Democratic choice given.
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yeah but are they the leader of the free world?
did they take us to a war to free a people that DON'T give a crap about US? you know who IS winning the war in iraq? IRAN is... and this was predicted before we invaded by many professionals that KNOW the region and the people, and they were called traitors and chased out of their jobs..but its happening....
people keep making lame excuses for this stuff... it's unbelievable....
bring it on sheesh
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yes, we are not winning in Iraq .... We went to Iraq and are fighting a limited war. In war, you fight to win.........
The extremists have the will to destroy the West so we need a strategy to win.....
I dont think this country is in unity YET regarding the war. What is sad, our soldiers are being killed progressivlely, etc.....
And , i dont think Iraqi folks give a crap about us as most of the Middle East. Thats why I say, we have to be smarter and create our oun energy sources...preferablt solar...
And..ran may have nuclear. Geez, it is so SAd to witness this debacle.......
What is odd, talk to pullout. thought Bush said we woudnt until Iraq is secure. Iraq is becoming less secure each day as the death toll and resources abuse mounts..So how can we pullout?
Then, we leave a vacuum...Bush said that wouldnt happen.
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No one wants to hear it but most of North America is in denial about life in general. Media kills the brain and destroys the soul if you believe it. The people of iraq are the same as us North Americans, we are no better. They are more willing to die because as a society that is built around hype and media we are the evil to them. They are gracious to blow themselves to peices if they are able to stand up against such a evil as the US, and you cannot win that battle with WAR. The people of the US have heart, they just need to find it. We are not dictators, truth is truth, and when you try to force your own version of truth down someone elses throat the natural reaction is retaliation"terraism" This war will not end until the US gets a slap in the face with reality. The worst part about the whole thing is that the young kids are dying for a make believe cause. Do you really think we will stop terrorism? Who came up with that word anyways? It's awful scary, but it works. Terrorist exist to get through to the think headed that life revolves around love, and not money.
"Buy now and save, it’s a war for peace It’s the same old game But do we really want to play? We could close our eyes its still there We could say it’s us against them We could try but nobody wins Gravity has got a hold on us all We could try to put it out, but it’s a growing flame Using fear as fuel Burning down our name And it won’t take too long Words all burn the same And who are we going to blame now?" - Crying Shame (Jack Johnson)
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I recently had a conversation with a friend home on leave from Afganistan..This dude is nearly 45 yrs old.
I can say he is in and out of Iraq frequently. He grinned when I asked him about Pakistan and India.
He spoke of ops in the other Stans. [ former Soviet Union ]
The board here on Allstocks was really a laugh to him.
Bottom line guys, There is a whole lot a killing going down. Wholesale! that we know nothing about.
The terrorist squads are enjoying themselves in a blood bath orgy of killing...
He states the killing is taking a escalating frenzy and the blooming Caran, or what ever ya call the thing, is only mentioned for propaganda purpose's.
The GI'S and quasi military units over there can't keep they're thumb in the dike much longer.
We will be hit in the U.S by these monsters, and it's going to be bloody..
So, maybe some of you should save your hatred for the enemy, your going to need it.
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we cant even begin to bring peace to the middle east until we detatch israel from our pocket books and stop supporting one religion over another. Taking a neutral stance in the israel-palestine conflict will lead to less terrorism on american soil in the future. If religious nuts want to kill each other over who's god is the right god then more power to them but we should stay out of something so obviously NEVER ENDING. Conflicts like this have a way of escalating, Israeli soldiers shoot palestinian militants for an attack last week on israel, then palestinian militants bomb an israeli night club for killing their buddys and so on FOREVER. You think bush and some laser guided bombs can solve a problem raging for centuries? HA! We cant solve thier problems but we can make sure our airplanes dont get hijacked and flown into buildings by not supporting one side over the other.
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: we can't have unity as long long as extremists pose as leaders....
silly there will never be unity, like world peace, there is no such thing.
In Iraq we are fightin Iran, don't forget Syria and Saudi Arabia too. I like that, personally I would like to be stronger against them all.
Iran needs a nice invasion, been needing one since the 70's now with this new clown in charge, part of the group that took our terrorists, we need to end that now before its too late.
I'm sure it would be political nightmare in the media though.
I hate this nation building crap though, not our job. I understand we did it with Germany and Japan but still not my way. kill who you need to kill and move on. Come back and do it again if need be.
Please don't give me the "talk to them, why don't they like us" we'll change to make them happy, thats crap, this has been going on for too long, if we stopped it 40 years ago, probably wouldn't be an issue today but its out of control now and needs extreme measures. Sadly we don't use them.
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I'm with you, keith, on the police bs--kick the statues over then remove to the desert and tell em get it together or we'll be back...
To do what they're attempting would require every soldier to also be well versed in Iraqi language, customs, etc. I'm guessing those kids got their plates full employing their training to stay alive...
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I hate this nation building crap though, not our job. I understand we did it with Germany and Japan but still not my way. kill who you need to kill and move on. Come back and do it again if need be.
but that(nation building) was Fearless Leader's plan all along....
he thought we would be welcomed with open arms, and then he would set up a few small oil companies and they would grow to become the next exxon or chevron or shell...
guess what? shell, exxon and chevron decided differently.... they didn't go along with the neo-con plan... taking Iran out will require a whole different approach, we would need double to triple the size army we have now, and it's hard enough keeping the numbers stable as it is... bombs only do so much..winning wars takes boot-leather....
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do you buy the crap you sell? the portrayal is too funny and does not require a response.
Your the one who said we were fighting Iran in Iraq. Are the Iraqi's winning the battles? Kind of reminds me of a hyper Israel, and they've been their for years with great intelligence. suicide bombs will continue until we stop ALL countries who support it.
(on shell and exxon) that blood for oil argument is for cheesy college prof's. 2 wars now and not accused of stealing one barrel, cant say that for the other members of the u.n.
IRAN: war with them as with all countries is difficult, but if they are supporting and training terrorists we need to stop it now not later.
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that's funny keith which part exactly is crap...
this isn't some mikeymoore conspiracy threory..it's all right there in the agenda as laid out by the neo-cons... the original plan was to destroy opec...
Privatisation blocked by industry
Philip Carroll, the former CEO of Shell Oil USA who took control of Iraq's oil production for the US Government a month after the invasion, stalled the sell-off scheme.
Mr Carroll told us he made it clear to Paul Bremer, the US occupation chief who arrived in Iraq in May 2003, that: "There was to be no privatisation of Iraqi oil resources or facilities while I was involved." Ariel Cohen, of the neo-conservative Heritage Foundation, told Newsnight that an opportunity had been missed to privatise Iraq's oil fields.
He advocated the plan as a means to help the US defeat Opec, and said America should have gone ahead with what he called a "no-brainer" decision.
Mr Carroll hit back, telling Newsnight, "I would agree with that statement. To privatize would be a no-brainer. It would only be thought about by someone with no brain."
it's war and it's what war has ALWAYS been about...
plans, obtained from the State Department by Newsnight and Harper's Magazine under the US Freedom of Information Act, called for creation of a state-owned oil company favoured by the US oil industry. It was completed in January 2004 under the guidance of Amy Jaffe of the James Baker Institute in Texas.
Formerly US Secretary of State, Baker is now an attorney representing Exxon-Mobil and the Saudi Arabian government.
the oil industry prefers state control of Iraq's oil over a sell-off because it fears a repeat of Russia's energy privatisation. In the wake of the collapse of the Soviet Union, US oil companies were barred from bidding for the reserves.
this is the kinda mess that happens when checkers players try to play chess...
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Ms Jaffe says US oil companies are not warm to any plan that would undermine Opec and the current high oil price: "I'm not sure that if I'm the chair of an American company, and you put me on a lie detector test, I would say high oil prices are bad for me or my company." The former Shell oil boss agrees. In Houston, he told Newsnight: "Many neo conservatives are people who have certain ideological beliefs about markets, about democracy, about this, that and the other. International oil companies, without exception, are very pragmatic commercial organizations. They don't have a theology."
and Chalabi is in the center of it all...
he is also doing a lot more business with Iran than we should be happy about...
it suxx....bad
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korea? they are China's problem... we should be encouraging China to deal with them, not worrying so much ourselves.. after all they are right next door...
our troops? they need better eqpt and a hunting license... screw collateral damage... get rid of the "insurgents" and anybody helping them, in any way at all....
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this is crap: "he thought we would be welcomed with open arms" give me a quote and others will argue we were by the amount of votes (not my argument)
This also: Mr Carroll told us he made it clear to Paul Bremer, the US occupation chief who arrived in Iraq in May 2003, that: "There was to be no privatisation of Iraqi oil resources or facilities while I was involved."
sounds like you could be Mr. CArrol. Where does he state that Bremer told him to privatize, and if we really wanted too, we would've found a company. Or do you only know morally responsible companies, **** we coulda got one from France.
Some clown leader of the Neo Cons is not the country. No more than the moron that is Ted Kennedy was Clintons agenda.
Sounds to me like you have an agenda, I don't. All actions have their rewards and downfalls. All can be exploited. 2 wars no exploitation, I wish they would take the oil.
then state Iran cut the crap or we will kill you and take your oil which is obviously their money....i am actually all for this strategy.
This statement is also stupid, and can be used by both sides: Many neo conservatives are people who have certain ideological beliefs about markets, about democracy, about this, that and the other. International oil companies, without exception, are very pragmatic commercial organizations. They don't have a theology."
This one was the worst, way too 2nd grade:this is the kinda mess that happens when checkers players try to play chess...
LOL that one should be your motto
bottom line, UN controls the oil. not sadam and france as you would have it.
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this is crap: "he thought we would be welcomed with open arms" give me a quote and others will argue we were by the amount of votes (not my argument)
your request is my command as you wish
Transcript for Sept. 14 Sunday, September 14, 2003 GUEST: Dick Cheney, vice president Tim Russert, moderator
{Videotape, March 16):
VICE PRES. DICK CHENEY: My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators.
(End videotape)
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This also: Mr Carroll told us he made it clear to Paul Bremer, the US occupation chief who arrived in Iraq in May 2003, that: "There was to be no privatisation of Iraqi oil resources or facilities while I was involved."
keith? i quoted Mr Carroll ... that's why it sounds like i could be him....
i'm not making this stuff up, i do my DD....it's all out there, all ya gotta do is look.....
the big oil companies stomped the neo-cons (read cheny and wolfowitz and rumsfeld) like godzilla marching to the bay of tokyo..and our troops and their families are paying the price...
"A liberated Iraq can show the power of freedom to transform that vital region, by bringing hope and progress to the lives of millions," Bush said.
i don't have an agenda per se.... just a MEMORY
Saddam is trying to convince U.N. nations that he is complying with their anti-arms resolutions, despite what the United States says is ample evidence that he is not. In a rare interview with an American journalist, Saddam dismissed U.S. efforts to encourage his exile.
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VICE PRES. DICK CHENEY: My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators I watched the cheering and hugging, I also saw the voting. Did you see something different, or was it staged for you?
On mr. carroll: you ever made something clear before you did it. Sure I'll be in you movie but not nude, I'll come in but I'm not spending the night...Again show me Bremer begging these people to take the oil.
You telling me we can't train an army branch to be an oil company?
your not making the stuff up, I can find the facts and proof of why we've never been to the moon. I didn't say you made it up, you currently have an agenda.
You didn't always have this agend, your were more analytical, less stuck on your own thought. Currently evolution for you has paused. I think this threads getting to you.
Your anti Iraq war people aren't all right, there are many, many great reasons to have started that war. The pro war people aren't right either, there are many good reasons for not starting it. the answer is somewhere in the middle.
I was in Europe watching the Englanders say they were attacked because of Iraq while Lebanon, Turkey, Egypt all had attacks and none of them had supported the war.
Bottom line is the war was started, the muderous dictator was removed (those are facts). Now, the world should help the Iraqi people creat a great country. What does the world do, "you started it you fix it" screw the iraqi people attitude. Its very sad.
These are the same people who want to send food and money to Niger, why, they have a gov't they should fix it themselves, isn't that the U.N's policy.
I've even read quotes of coffi the clown taking credit for the accomplishments in Iraq recently, you can find them.
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