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There is some fresh red camel meat on off topics... Art, check out the problem child. {kid}
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no, i want to see the supposed web-site where "her husband described her on his web site as working for the CIA"
Art, you stuck to the WMD issue long after i showed you the truth of that too....
more "liberal lies" you said..but your own President acknowledged that it wasn't liberal lies..
you don't even hear the smoke alarms going off in the house Art, and there is fire right behind...
terrorism has decreased? right...tell that to the Brits...
BTW? US raises figures for terror attacks to 3,200 By Demetri Sevastopulo in Washington Published: July 6 2005 00:29 | Last updated: July 6 2005 00:29 In April the US State Department had said there were 651 “international” terrorism incidents last year. But using a broader definition to include attacks that “deliberately hit civilians or non-combatants” the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC) on Tuesday raised that number to 3,192. The incidents resulted in the deaths, injury or kidnapping of almost 28,500 people.
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i don't see them saying the insurgency is dying down ANYWHERE ART, that is your little fantasy....
U.S. may begin Iraq troop drawdown in '06 WASHINGTON (AP) — Major reductions in U.S. troop levels in Iraq next year appear increasingly likely, although Pentagon officials said Monday it is too early to predict the specific size and timing.
The Pentagon is eager to pull some of its 135,000 troops out of Iraq in 2006, partly because the counterinsurgency is stretching the Army and Marine Corps perilously thin as casualties mount and partly because officials believe the presence of a large U.S. force is generating tacit support for anti-American violence.
It appears highly unlikely that any significant numbers will be withdrawn before the end of the year. U.S. commanders expect the insurgency to remain at or near its current strength at least until after a scheduled October referendum on a new Iraqi constitution, followed by December elections for a new government.
Attempts by U.S. officials to predict the course of the insurgency have been off the mark, and officials have been forced more than once to scrap plans to reduce the U.S. force in Iraq. The force peaked at about 160,000 in January, when extra troops were needed to bolster security for the elections.
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Art: I wasn't aware we were in a recession when Clinton was President. Do you not think the Bushes, Chaney, and Haliburton clan are big buddies with the Lauden families? Where have you been the last 4 years. You need to go to Michael Moore's web site and get some facts.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nanny: [QB] Art: I wasn't aware we were in a recession when Clinton was President. Do you not think the Bushes, Chaney, and Haliburton clan are big buddies with the Lauden families? Where have you been the last 4 years. You need to go to Michael Moore's web site and get some facts.
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Oooo Pleezzzzz, Michael Morons web site, for facts? Man, who is pouring the Kool-aide down these nitt-witts throats..
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quote:Originally posted by Nanny: Art: I wasn't aware we were in a recession when Clinton was President. Do you not think the Bushes, Chaney, and Haliburton clan are big buddies with the Lauden families? Where have you been the last 4 years. You need to go to Michael Moore's web site and get some facts.
The recession began during the last months of Clinton's presidencey. This could only be determined months later - the date of a recession onset is always set post hoc (Latin for after the fact). Since a recession onset doesn't just spring up overnight, but takes many months to develop, it is properly called a recession that Bush inherited from Clinton.
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glassman: no, i want to see the supposed web-site where "her husband described her on his web site as working for the CIA"
Art: Do a search on wilsobn's web site. I got the report today on a cable news channel - that Wilson (on his web site) described his wife as working for the CIA before the Novak story.
Glassman: Art, you stuck to the WMD issue long after i showed you the truth of that too....
Art: I said that WMD could have been buried or taken to Syria or elsewhere. This is the truth. What is your evidence that it can't be true? As far as I know they have not yet dug up the whole of the Iraqi desert and have not yet searched Syria.
glassman:..but your own President acknowledged that it wasn't liberal lies..
Art: Bush said we have not found WMD in Iraq, not that they never ever would be found. Is English your third or fourth language?
glassman: terrorism has decreased? right...tell that to the Brits...
Art: Decreased over the last month in Iraq. While continue to decrease over the next 6 months in Iraq.
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The act protected only those who were "serving outside the United States or (have) within the last five years." It's not clear how Mrs. Wilson would qualify as an undercover covert operative when she was a weapons of mass destruction analyst sitting at a desk in Langley, Va., and not a spy.
i think you guys are missing the larger point here...
if what Rove did to PLAME was not illegal BY LETTER OF LAW? it may not matter anymore...
i refer you to Martha, who was NOT guilty of insider trading, and Nixon himself who never went near the Watergate building....
i am not jumping up and down cheering about this...
i am hoping that Bush doesn't end up being caught up in whatever crimes MAY have been committed...
there is obviously a war going on in Washington, and it's not just the liberals verse the conservatives..
there are some career wars going on too...
i think it was a grave mistake for people from the whitehouse to start trying "slap" career state dept and intel people around....
elected officials come and go, but the beltway is run by the career people....
it's amazing how quickly your success as the "boss" falls apart when your secretary or your administrator or your purchasing agent decides you aren't fit to lead them....
Reagan understood this....
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I put it as plainly as possible: In the interests of national security, President Bush should fire Karl Rove. And, with enormous energy and enthusiasm the johnkerry.com community responded in less than 24 hours to our "Fire Rove" petition.
But, still the President refuses to act. We need to keep the pressure on the President and the Republicans in the House and Senate.
We need you to recruit your friends and neighbors to sign our Fire Rove petition today to show that Americans will not tolerate White House dirty tricks that compromise our national security.
It's time for the President to do what he said he'd do and remove from the White House someone who leaked the identity of a CIA agent and made her dangerous job even more dangerous. And, if he's not willing to do that, George W. Bush should look the American people in the eye and admit that he didn't mean what he said when he promised to fire anyone responsible for the leak.
If you haven't already signed our Fire Rove petition, act now:
If you have signed it, help build momentum around the country by passing this along to five people on your email list.
It's remarkable that the presidential aide who should be packing his bags is instead sitting in White House meetings about stacking the Supreme Court with rigid ideologues. The last thing America needs -- and the last thing we will tolerate -- is Rove-style tactics in the critical decisions our nation is about to make about the shape of the Supreme Court.
We'll fight tooth and nail to prevent those kinds of tactics from carrying the day. I urge you to stay alert, pass this message on to friends, and keep moving forward.
John Kerry
P.S. Republicans in Washington want us to believe that no one "out there in America" cares about Karl Rove's dangerous actions. Let's prove just how wrong they are. The credibility of the White House and the President are on the line. Urge everyone you know to stand up and express their outrage. Pass along our petition today.
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Excerpts below for liberals who only read Michael Moore:
John Kerry, with Hillary Clinton nodding at his side, said that "Karl Rove ought to be fired" after the disclosure that Rove, in an e-mail to Time magazine's Matt Cooper in July 2003, said a trip that former Ambassador Joe Wilson took to Niger for the CIA was not arranged by Cheney, [as Wilson had indicated befoe and as the Time's Cooper was going to print], but rather by "Wilson's wife, who apparently works at the agency." Rove didn't provide her name,[nor indicate she was an undercover agent].
This was said to be retaliation for Wilson's claim in a New York Times op-ed piece after the trip that Bush lied in his State of the Union speech that British intelligence had learned Saddam operatives were trying to buy yellowcake uranium in Africa. [Wilson's report in fact had pointed out that Saddam had tried to get uranium from Niger in past years]. Wilson also made three appearances on NBC's "Meet The Press."
Wilson, a Democrat who worked in the National Security Council under President Clinton, is a physician in need of healing himself when it comes to truth-telling.
On July 9, 2004, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence issued its report on the CIA's prewar intelligence on Iraq. The report concluded Wilson lied when he denied his wife got him the Niger assignment. The report also said Wilson lied when he told The Washington Post he knew the Niger intelligence had been based on forged documents. The CIA didn't obtain the document said to be a forgery until eight months after Wilson returned from Niger.
On July 14, 2003, Robert Novak wrote a column naming Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, as a CIA employee. Novak did not name his source, but Wilson accused Rove, swearing that he would see Rove led out of the White House in "handcuffs."
In a column the following October, Novak said "the disclosure of Wilson's wife working at the agency . . . was not much of a secret" and that it "was well-known around Washington that Wilson's wife worked for the CIA."
Her name was certainly no secret, appearing in Wilson's "Who's Who In America" entry. Nor were her political affiliations and those of her husband. It could be argued that Mrs. Wilson blew her own cover when she made a contribution to the Al Gore for President campaign and listed her CIA cover company as her employer in the FEC filing.
Her husband Joe also made a contribution to the Gore campaign and, coincidentally enough, signed on with the Kerry presidential campaign as an unpaid foreign policy adviser and speech-writing assistant. He also campaigned for Kerry in six states.
The 1982 Intelligence Identities Protection Act, which Rove is accused of violating, was written following a scandal involving Philip Agee, a rogue former CIA agent who published the names of 700 of his CIA colleagues before fleeing to the worker's paradise of Cuba.
The law was designed to protect the CIA from subversion and treason by those who wished harm upon the agency and the U.S. It was not designed to protect the identities of agents and their spouses who freely inject themselves into one side of a national political debate. If Karl Rove is a criminal, exactly what was the crime?
The act protected only those who were "serving outside the United States or (have) within the last five years." It's not clear how Mrs. Wilson would qualify as an undercover covert operative when she was a weapons of mass destruction analyst sitting at a desk in Langley, Va., and not a spy.
Pure politics is behind the outrage of liberals such as Kerry and Clinton who suddenly feel protective of the CIA after spending decades blaming the organization and its covert operatives for all manner of mischief. Where was the outrage back in the '90s, when Democrats gave one of their own, then-Rep. Bob Torricelli, a pass when he blew the cover of a real CIA operative in Guatemala?
The usual suspects who got even with Newt Gingrich for electing a Republican Congress are now trying to settle the score with the architect of Bush's two election victories. Wilson now goes around Washington saying, "Neo-conservatives and religious conservatives have hijacked this administration, and I consider myself on a personal mission to destroy both." He's not alone, it seems.
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What comments would you add about Rove previously being caught committing acts of treason?
You need to research and read. George Bush senior caught Rove providing classified information to the reporter, Novak, and fired him for it.
Rove is a traitor. Bush junior is harboring a traitor.
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Early on, Rove was caught breaking into Democratic headquarters for a local state race. He used their letterhead to present false information.
Rove accused John McCain of being a traitor. Rove claimed McCain routinely gave military secrets to the North Vietnamese to effect his release. None of that is true, all of it is a Rove lie.
Rove accused McCain of having an affair with a black woman resulting in an illegitimate child. Later, the truth came out; the McCain family adopted the girl, out of compassion and love.
Rove was a mastermind of Nixon's dirty tricks.
Rove divested himself of Enron stock just before the collapse. He was also an advisor for our national energy policy, while an Enron stock holder; he pumped the stock and divested just before the Enron crimes came to light.
Rove has a long criminal history and a well, very well documented history of being a traitor.
Bush is harboring a known traitor.
President Bush has nicknamed Rove, "Turd Blossom."
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At first, I liked Muscle Head. Being gullible, I believed his political lies. I voted for him.
How 'bout that, Art? I voted republican.
Muscle Head has pushed through some environmental laws which are very good. I never could garner a response from him on securities fraud. Then he reneged on his promise to not cut education funding. Turns out, he is just another typical lying politician in bed with Rove.
Not a chance he will be governor in 2006 because he has pissed off just about all in our state.
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here is an excerpt from an article on Rove... The Controller: Karl Rove is working to get George Bush reelected, but he has bigger plans. by Nicholas Lemann "Profiles," The New Yorker Magazine May 12, 2003
......In our last interview, I tried out on Rove a scenario I called "the death of the Democratic Party." The Party has three key funding sources: trial lawyers, Jews, and labor unions. One could systematically disable all three, by passing tort-reform legislation that would cut off the trial lawyers' incomes, by tilting pro-Israel in Middle East policy and thus changing the loyalties of big Jewish contributors, and by trying to shrink the part of the labor force which belongs to the newer, and more Democratic, public-employee unions. And then there are three fundamental services that the Democratic Party is offering to voters: Social Security, Medicare, and public education. Each of these could be peeled away, too: Social Security and Medicare by giving people benefits in the form of individual accounts that they invested in the stock market, and public education by trumping the Democrats on the issue of standards. The Bush Administration has pursued every item on that list. Rove didn't offer any specific objection but, rather, a general caveat that the project might be too ambitious. "Well, I think it's a plausible explanation," he said. "I don't think you ever kill any political party. Political parties kill themselves, or are killed, not by the other political party but by their failure to adapt to new circumstances. But do you weaken a political party, either by turning what they see as assets into liabilities, and/or by taking issues they consider to be theirs, and raiding them?" The thought brought to his round, unlined, guileless face a boyish look of pure delight. "Absolutely!"
it's an interesting article....
i doubt that it's full of liberal lies, since Rove agreed to do interviews for it....
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quote:Originally posted by Art: Art: This is absolutely true and you, glassman, can't see it. The liberal media is constantly reporting on how the terrorists are "destroying" Iraq, portraying it as a quagmire for the USA. The truth is that the terrorist attacks are decreasing, Iraq is being rebuilt, the Iraqis are pro-USA by a large majority, and soldiers over there report continual progess that is ignored by media reports, and the soldiers say the media paint a distorted picture of the truth. We are now going to pull out our troops since the Iraqis can start talking over. You were telling us we would be there for many years and that three years from now the terrorism level would be as it was last month.
glassman: terrorist acts are decreasing?
what planet are you living on?
we are now gonna pull out our troops?
what planet are you living on?
Art: Terrorists acts in Iraq have decreased over the last month - very much so in and around Bahgdad.
Plans for reduction of USA trops are now being made, as recently announced. You are either not listening to the news are only to the liberal stations.
Art: Iraqi constitution is near completion and yes, we will withdraw troops starting in '06, according to General Casey.
Tell me, glassman, does General Casey live in La La land too?
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Purl Gurl: Rove accused McCain of having an affair with a black woman resulting in an illegitimate child. Later, the truth came out; the McCain family adopted the girl, out of compassion and love.
Art: Adopted the child, perhaps to avoid DNA testing?
If Rove were giulty of what you say he has done in the past, why hasn't this all come out with criminal charges, etc.? Baseless accusations?
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: here is an excerpt from an article on Rove... The Controller: Karl Rove is working to get George Bush reelected, but he has bigger plans. by Nicholas Lemann "Profiles," The New Yorker Magazine May 12, 2003
......In our last interview, I tried out on Rove a scenario I called "the death of the Democratic Party." The Party has three key funding sources: trial lawyers, Jews, and labor unions. One could systematically disable all three, by passing tort-reform legislation that would cut off the trial lawyers' incomes, by tilting pro-Israel in Middle East policy and thus changing the loyalties of big Jewish contributors, and by trying to shrink the part of the labor force which belongs to the newer, and more Democratic, public-employee unions. And then there are three fundamental services that the Democratic Party is offering to voters: Social Security, Medicare, and public education. Each of these could be peeled away, too: Social Security and Medicare by giving people benefits in the form of individual accounts that they invested in the stock market, and public education by trumping the Democrats on the issue of standards. The Bush Administration has pursued every item on that list. Rove didn't offer any specific objection but, rather, a general caveat that the project might be too ambitious. "Well, I think it's a plausible explanation," he said. "I don't think you ever kill any political party. Political parties kill themselves, or are killed, not by the other political party but by their failure to adapt to new circumstances. But do you weaken a political party, either by turning what they see as assets into liabilities, and/or by taking issues they consider to be theirs, and raiding them?" The thought brought to his round, unlined, guileless face a boyish look of pure delight. "Absolutely!"
it's an interesting article....
i doubt that it's full of liberal lies, since Rove agreed to do interviews for it....
No liberal lies here. Just good political strategy for which Rove is a master. Clinton set the precedent for this by co-opting some of Gingrich's conract with America, which was very smart but didn't damge Republicans that much.
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Purl Gurl: What comments would you add about Rove previously being caught committing acts of treason? You need to research and read. George Bush senior caught Rove providing classified information to the reporter, Novak, and fired him for it. Rove is a traitor. Bush junior is harboring a traitor.
Art: Where is the proof for what you said? Here is what I found (excerpt):
"In 1980, Bush hired Rove to help him run for president. He was the first person Bush hired for the campaign. Atwater became chairman of the Republican National Committee and one of Bush's closest political advisors. In 1981, when Bush became Reagan's vice president, Rove started his consulting business, Karl Rove & Co. His first direct mail client was Bill Clements, the first Republican in a century to become Texas governor.
Rove began working for Bill Clements in 1978. Four years later, he was working for Phil Gramm, who was in the U.S. House of Representatives as an old-style conservative Texas Democrat. In 1984, Rove helped Gramm, now a Republican, defeat Democrat Lloyd Doggett in the race for U.S. Senate. It was that same year, 1984, that Rove handled direct-mail for the Reagan-Bush campaign. In 1986, he helped Clements become governor a second time. In 1988, Rove helped Tom Phillips to victory, the first Republican elected to the Texas Supreme Court. Ten years later Republicans held all nine seats. Mark McKinnon, a former Democratic consultant who defected to the Bush campaign, called Rove the "Bobby Fischer of politics. He not only sees the board, he sees about 20 moves ahead."
Rove has been closely advising George W. Bush since he announced he was a candidate for Governor in November 1993. By January 1994, Bush had spent $613,930 on the race against incumbent Ann Richards. Over half of that, $340,579, went to Rove. In a state long dominated by Democrats, albeit right-wing ones, every statewide elected office was, by 1999, held by a Republican. Many of those politicians succeeded with the help of Rove. During the November election, the half-dozen candidates he advised were all winners.
Bush has called Rove a close friend and confidant, and a man with good judgment. Almost a quarter of all the money Bush's presidential exploratory committee spent from January to the end of March, 1999, went to Rove's consulting firm ($220,228). Rove soon sold his consulting firm to devote himself to the Bush campaign. Long known locally as a political kingmaker, the possibility of a second Bush in the White House has made Rove more famous."
Sources: Robert Bryce, "The Man Behind the Candidate," The Austin Chronicle, March 18, 1994, pp. 23, 28-30, 32-33; Robert Bryce, "The fab four:Meet the people maneuvering behind the scenes to put George W. Bush in the White House," Salon magazine, June 16, 1999, (http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/06/16/advisors/index1.html); Paul Brancato, “Bush League” illustrated cards (Forestville, California: Eclipse Enterprises, 1989), pp. 5, 13, 18.
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Purl Gurl: What comments would you add about Rove previously being caught committing acts of treason? You need to research and read. George Bush senior caught Rove providing classified information to the reporter, Novak, and fired him for it. Rove is a traitor. Bush junior is harboring a traitor.
Art: In 1992, Rove was fired from the Bush presidential re-election campaign for leaking information to journalist Robert Novak,
This was campaign leak, Purl Gurl, and not a national security leak as you lied about. Nothing criminal here. Just a political disagreement of Bush Sr. with Rove.
Big Deal.
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Purl Gurl: Rove has a long criminal history and a well, verywell documented history of being a traitor. Bush is harboring a known traitor.
Art: Purl Gurl has a long history of telling lies in her posts. She can provide no evidence to support her statement above - what crimes has Rove been convicted of and what acts of treason has he done?
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put the chickens in charge of the foxhouse...oooohh boy, that makes my week. Clements was the Grand Poo-Bah of the Terminally Glazedie-Eyed...Alzheimer-Vets-Meet-Hunter Thompson-at-the-PT Barnum Shrine-Week.
quote:Originally posted by Art: Purl Gurl: Rove accused McCain of having an affair with a black woman resulting in an illegitimate child. Later, the truth came out; the McCain family adopted the girl, out of compassion and love.
Art: Adopted the child, perhaps to avoid DNA testing?
If Rove were giulty of what you say he has done in the past, why hasn't this all come out with criminal charges, etc.? Baseless accusations?
this brings another question to mind Art. if mikey (the slob) moore lied in fahrenheit911? why didn't the Bushes charge him with crimes either? maybe for the same exact reasons?
Rove has played politics as rough as anybody ever did...and he has no ideology...it's about winning for him..at any cost... so there will be very little crying in the GOP if he does get charged/convicted....
i'm hearingfrom multiple sources that revealing Plames position was crime...but i'm no lawyer...so we'll just have to wait and see won't we?
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Wikipedia is an encyclopedia written collaboratively by many of its readers. Lots of people are constantly improving Wikipedia, making thousands of changes an hour, all of which are recorded on the page history and the Recent Changes page. Nonsense and vandalism are usually removed quickly.
From the Senate Intelligence Committee report on prewar intelligence about Iraq and WMD...info relevant to Joe Wilson and his wife starts on page 36 of the document (page 44 of the PDF format
READ, READ, READ...
1. There was in fact intelligence that Iraq sought to buy uranium from Niger ("sought to buy", which is what Bush actually said in his state of the union address, as opposed to actually bought). That intelligence comes from British and other sources, and the British at least still stand by their sources. There were other sources who didn't agree, and neither side has backed down on the issue to this day.
2. Valerie Plame did in fact push for her husband to get sent to Niger, highlighting in a memo his contacts there and with the French. She also acted a few times as an intermediary between her husband and the CIA. She also looks to have held biased views as to the likelihood of Niger selling uranium, having told her husband he needed to go over and check out "some crazy idea that Iraq is buying uranium from Niger".
3. Joe Wilson's report was thought not to be conclusive, nor detailed, and was basically put into the maelstrom of reports that circulate on a daily basis. It was not briefed to the president, the secretary of state, nor the vice president.
There's also evidence in the report of some whoppers told by Joe Wilson as a secret source for Newsweek. The report doesn't exonerate Bush from mistakes by any means, but it also doesn't allege that he made anything up.
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actually bamaman? you will find those sources were discredited by the CIA before we went to war..read the president's report--it's in there... the CIA had analysts that were saying there were no nukes...
read this--it's long but it does say there was no nuke program since the first gulf war and that the CIA had many dissenting analysts....
Cheney got on Meet the Press on March 16 before we invaded Iraq and said...and i quote:
MR. RUSSERT: And even though the International Atomic Energy Agency said he does not have a nuclear program, we disagree?
VICE PRES. CHENEY: I disagree, yes. And you’ll find the CIA, for example, and other key parts of our intelligence community disagree. .....And I think if you look at the track record of the International Atomic Energy Agency and this kind of issue, especially where Iraq’s concerned, they have consistently underestimated or missed what it was Saddam Hussein was doing
the IAEA was in disagreemnet too..lots of people TRIED to disagree and were shouted down and claim that they were threatened to keep them quiet....
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Fox news is reporting this and others have picked it up... it sounds plausible....
it still doesn't answer the question of who did do it tho... they must know already????? Judith Miller has decided to got to jail instead of testify, maybe she is the "journalistic source"?
Reports: Rove Learned About CIA Officer's Identity From Journalists Friday, July 15, 2005
WASHINGTON — Although Joseph Wilson (search) and many Democrats have spent the last week saying Karl Rove (search) leaked the identity of a CIA operative to journalists, it may have been the other way around, according to sources familiar
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glassman: terrorism has decreased? right...tell that to the Brits...
Art: Decreased over the last month in Iraq. While continue to decrease over the next 6 months in Iraq.
glassman:
terrorism had decreased over the first half of this month Art...
BUT,
only measured in terms of US casualties... the last two months May, June, actually had high numbers of US deaths... and the iraqi's have been getting hit miserably.. which doesn't make sense to me...any comments on why the terrosits would be focusing on iraqi kids and civilians? other than the terrorists are just stupid evil people
7 car bombs went off (so far) today tho..... we have made progress capturing zarkowi's men, buit still no zarqaui or however you spell his name
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