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Art
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WASHINGTON, Feb 25, 2005

AP reported that ten members of the thirty two member Food and Drug Administration advisory panel, who voted that a group of powerful pain killers should continue to be sold, had ties to the drug makers.

They had ties to either Pfizer Inc., or Merck & Co., ranging from consulting fees and speaking honoraria to receiving research support from the companies.

The panel voted 31-1 to keep Pfizer's Celebrex on the market, 17-13 with 2 abstentions in favor of Pfizer's Bextra and 17-15 that Merck's Vioxx should be allowed back on sale.

Merck pulled Vioxx from the market Sept. 30 after heart problems were reported in some users. Similar questions were later raised about the other two drugs.

Without the votes of the ten drug-company-connected FDA members the result would have been 12-8 to recommend withdrawing Bextra and 14-8 to keep Vioxx off the market.

Money talks and the drug companies talk big in government.

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lot of that goin' around these days...
trial lawyers are gettin kicked in the teeth...

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Those poor trial lawyers who only get 35% to 50% of multi-million dollar settlements.

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i know, my heart bleeds for them...

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http://www.jibjab.com/cu_play_full.html

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Brings tears to my eyes.

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...leave the lawyers alone....

i'm sure you've all read about the mercury in kids vaccines...

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yeah, but the mercury only causes autism in 124 of 100,000 otherwise healthy bright children...

wait till the mercury in dental fillings gets the attention it deserves....

the average amalgam filling contains enough mercury to pollute a 10 acre lakes so badly that eating any fish from it would banned...

the "conservatives" are trying real hard to make sure they can keep their "hard earned" profits...

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they should just short and change the rule....make some bank and be right at the same time...are you implying medical lobby is more conservative hmmmm...
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quote:
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yeah, but the mercury only causes autism in 124 of 100,000 otherwise healthy bright children...

wait till the mercury in dental fillings gets the attention it deserves....

the average amalgam filling contains enough mercury to pollute a 10 acre lakes so badly that eating any fish from it would banned...


Eating Tuna may be more toxic than either vaccines or fillings. No credible evidence that harm results from any of these - just unproven possibility.


Opps! Now the laywers will go after Tuna fishermen, tuna canners and distributors, and grocery stores.


At some point the consumer has to take responsibility for their own welfare and quit blamming their poor decisons on business and other "deep pockets".


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....Eating Tuna ia more toxic than either vaccines or fillings.
not true Art...
amalgam slowly dissolves CONTINUOUSLY...forever...
abd removing the fillings(as opposed to yanking the teeth) is MORE dangerous than leaving them in...

and consumers have less choice than you imply....

the ADA has sanctioned many dentists who recomend NOT getting amalgam fillings..

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FACT: 90% of PROFITS are in fact just passing the true expenses off on some poor unsuspecting "liberal" [Big Grin]

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quote:
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....Eating Tuna ia more toxic than either vaccines or fillings.
not true Art...
amalgam slowly dissolves CONTINUOUSLY...forever...
abd removing the fillings(as opposed to yanking the teeth) is MORE dangerous than leaving them in...

and consumers have less choice than you imply....

the ADA has sanctioned many dentists who recomend NOT getting amalgam fillings..

No credible evidence that any risk is incurred. Just scare internet BS. Same with Aspartame - only potentially bad (as is chocolate) for Phenylketonurics as warned on the label of the product. Cigarettes, and even table salt, are more harmful.

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LOL Art, ever hear of the Mad Hatter? i wonder if anybody ever studied the relationship with Alzheimers? LOL......

this is another perfect example of why we need tort reform...cuz the bills are gonna come due and the "conservatives" plan on leaving BEFORE the check is brought to the table... [Big Grin]

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Alzheimer's presents with mild to moderate memory loss and depression, then later increasing memory loss, and some apathy and withdrawal, then death.

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many subtle behaviour disorders are being attributed to toxic metals Art....

a lot( but not all) of "conservative" attitude that people's problems are their OWN fault is dung....

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quote:
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many subtle behaviour disorders are being attributed to toxic metals Art....


Absolutely. Did you see the movie, The Madness of King George with Robert Downey? Lead in pottery/cookware made him bonkers, as historians later figure out.

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quote:
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...a lot( but not all) of "conservative" attitude that people's problems are their OWN fault is dung....

What is one thing, that a person does voluntarily, or that results from what a person does voluntarily, that is not their own fault?

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some say lead poisoning caused the fall of the Roman Empire...

more recent studies seem to indicate that lead in smaller amounts could be responsible for a lot of delinquant behaviour...the CDC has some interesting data on this...

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quote:
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some say lead poisoning caused the fall of the Roman Empire...

more recent studies seem to indicate that lead in smaller amounts could be responsible for a lot of delinquant behaviour...the CDC has some interesting data on this...

Olestra, the no-calories fat substitute, can remobve toxins from the body.

Can also cause some digestive upset or gas.


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most delinquent behavior is caused by being really poor.
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you mean getting CAUGHT at delinquent behaviour is caused by being poor...

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quote:
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most delinquent behavior is caused by being really poor.

Then why are most really poor people law abiding?

Poverty is a contributing cause, but not an excuse for illegal behavior.

I was poor once. When I was born I didn't have anything.


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quote:
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you mean getting CAUGHT at delinquent behaviour is caused by being poor...

No, that is caused by being stupid.

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