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ththf
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Market react different to the death of korea hostage and Johnson's death. Do they think Korea's death means that one thing is solved, while Johnson's death weigh more attention?

Is Johnson's death more valuable than Korean's death?

It seems today's market celebrate the death of Korea.

Asian now recognized how US 's selfish as Bush.


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WHAT'S YOUR POINT
Don't see how this can be connected.
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Obviously, you revel in the thought of the stock market going down: are you just disappointed that your buddies in Iraq didn't bring the market down again? Are you pissed because we are resilient enough that other cowards with criminal mindsets like your own- aren't crippling our economy? The ideology that our market needsd to plummet in order to prove to you our regrets over what happened to Mr. Sun-Il, is nothing more than a serious delusional mental flaw in your character which you should seek treatment for before it gets any further out of hand.
And now we all see just how blindly and self-servingly Anti-American you are: Note the fact that you referred to Kim Sun-Il as just 'the Korean'. You didn't even have the decency to find out what his name was before you tried exploiting him in death, no differently than the terrorists tried exploiting him in life.
And yes- Bush, as with any politician- any man or woman who feels that he/she is so elite, that he/she can rule over others- is selfish: just as you are selfish for the shame you bring to whatever your cause is through the attempted exploitation of a victim's death.
At least Bush is attempting to bring freedom and democracy to a nation where tyrants ruled because the people were too much a bunch of cowards to oust the likes of Hussein themselves: what are your motives? Bush is a damn good man- imperfect, but a far better example of humanity than most- including (and especially) you.
It's interesting that you seem so pissed that our market didn't take a serious hit today- as if you are, in reality, no better than the terrorists.
I wouldn't be surprised if you attempt to rebut me with some fabricated moderate response about how your emotion of grief just overtook you in the heat of the moment, and how I am the one whom overstepped in my response: yet it is obvious that you are as moderate in heart, as you are empathetic to Mr. Sun-Il. It is so obvious that you weren't motivated by Mr Sun-Il's death- you were motivated by your blind self-righteous hatred of America, coupled to the corpse of a person whom you considered to be a convenient patsy- a person for whom you don't even have enough respect towards to find out his name first.

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South Korea: Our hearts ache for your loss, and the family’s loss of Kim Sun-il. We respect this man and his family for their sacrifice.

South Korea: You are correct in that we as members of this world-wide internet site should have posted a message of love & support to you, to kim Sun-il, and to his family.

I am greatly sorry for this lack of thought on our part and sincerely apologize. I watched the news with tears and anger. I should have let you know. We all should have let you know.

So I take this moment to extend to you mine, and I'm certain all of America's deepest sympathies. We do know what you feel. Our pain is as great as yours. Kim Sun-il was a human being, a man with a mother and father, grandparents, siblings, loved ones and friends. We send them all our love and prayers.

While Kim Sin-il was truly an innocent working for a South Korean Trading Company in Iraq, we can not disregard in our anger & tears the great sacrifice he gave. In his sacrifice he shows the world once again, as many innocent overseas American workers have shown through their sacrificial beheadings, the vicious nature of the terrorist mind.

This last paragraph I expand on in the following post.


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I've placed these sentiments in editorials in Newspapers, and it's time to put these thoughts in print for a world-wide audience.

This post is in anger, in part to you "ththf" who wrote about the beheading. it is a post to "Hasmirfenring" who started the thread "It is a war of reactionaries", and it is in part a response to an American Soldiers letter sent to, and posted by a "Bob Frey" who started the thread "Iraq & the US media" on the "Hot Stocks" section.

South Korea: Our hearts ache for your loss, and the family’s loss of Kim Sun-il. We respect this man and his family for their sacrifice.

So I take this moment to extend to you our deepest sympathies. We do know what you feel. Our pain is as great as yours. Kim Sun-il was a human being, a man with a mother and father, grandparents, siblings, loved ones and friends. We send them all our love and prayers.

South Korea: While Kim Sin-il was truly an innocent working for a South Korean Trading Company in Iraq, we can not disregard in our anger & tears the great sacrifice he gave. In his sacrifice he shows the world once again, as many innocent overseas American workers have shown through their beheadings, the vicious nature of the terrorist mind.

BUT here is where my anger begins... there was also news here in America regarding South Koreans marching and chanting for the American Soldiers to leave South Korea. The American Soldiers your government officials asked America to sacrifice in order to protect your border with North Korea. We Americans would love to have our children, husbands & wives home with us. We sent them to you, to protect you and your families.

South Korea: Be careful what your people ask for. Our men & women GAVE their lives FOR YOU so that you may continue farming, living & growing in peace. YOUR SOUTH KOREAN OFFICIALS BEGGED AMERICA FOR HELP years ago. AMERICANS GAVE THEIR LIVES FOR YOUR FREEDOM. YOU were viciously killed & tortured by COMMUNIST NORTH KOREANS many years ago in NORTH KOREA'S attempt to TAKE CONTROL OF YOU.

IF WE LEAVE SOUTH KOREA, no one, no country in this World will step-up to help you when North Korea marches in a 2nd time. NOR WOULD THEY DO SO AND LEAVE YOUR COUNTRY TO YOU. Just as we will leave Iraq to it’s citizens, with educated Iraqi’s leading the way and teaching it’s people about freedom.

THESE Terrorists MUST BE FLUSHED-OUT. AND THE WORLD, not just Americans anymore, BUT THE WORLD MUST LEARN TO SACRIFICE for freedom from barbaric people. TERRORISTS have viciously attacked & terrorized the European, ASIAN & African continents for decades. THE TERRORISTS ARE BEING FLUSHED OUT NOW. The World must learn to fight back and sacrifices MUST BE MADE BY ALL.

Terrorists are indeed barbaric. Their methods are those of the Huns, The Vikings, The Mongollians from centuries ago. As one man said so perfectly today on the FOX News Channel. Centuries ago barbarians instilled fear into the populace they chose to CONTROL by cutting off heads, mounting them on poles and placing those severed heads on display in the Village Town Square for the villagers to see what would happen if the villagers even attempted freedom from their barbaric tyranny. AND SO TODAY, AND FOR THE PAST 25 YEARS, Terrorists display their barbarism in many ways. Now we see, rather than the local village Town Square of centuries ago, Terrorists manipulate the naive media and use TV to act as the WORLDS Town Square in proudly displaying the severed heads of innocent people… in order to mold & control innocents to their Terrorist demands.

My husband, and I by his side, awaited deaths knock on our door for 24 years... everytime he was called to Turkey & South Korea. MY HUSBAND went to Kuwait because that government begged us to please help. NO ONE ELSE WOULD UNTIL WE STEPPED UP TO THE TASK!!! WE as Americans ALLOWED our government to SACRIFICE OUR men & women for the people of Kuwait.

WE NOW ALLOW OUR Government, with some reservation, TO FREE Iraq of disqusting & violent Tyranny. To break the link between the crazed Dictator Saddam Hussein, with even more insane, vicious & spoiled sons who would some day have been the leaders of Iraq.. to break the link between Saddam & terrorists. AND YES, despite what America’s unbelievably naive & one-sided liberal media says, even the 911 commission mentions the absolute link between Al Queda & Sadddam. NOT WITH regard to 911... but definately in matters of financial support & in Al Queda's own attempt to go to Saddam and ask for weapons of mass destruction. This was CONFIRMED by Brittish Intelligence, and through Russian Intelligence several months after 911. This Al Queda & Saddam Hussein link was CONFIRMED AGAIN by Russian President Vladimir Putin in a WORLD WIDE statement a few days ago saying that he, himself, told President Bush of the connection between Al Queda & Saddam AND gave the documented intelligence to America.

WE ALLOW OUR GOVERNMENT, AT THE REQUEST OF MID-EAST MUSLIM OFFICIALS, To send American boys & girls, husbands & wives, to protect Turkey, Saudi, Kuwait, Yemen, Palestine from the constant-constant threat of Saddam & his two sons' attempts to takeover & control those countries. IN ADDITION to OUR AMERICAN SOLDIERS PROTECTING those same countries FROM THOSE MUSLIM OFFICIALS FEAR OF IRAN.

Forgive my digression in speaking of Muslims here. BUT their officials are in fear of Iran & were in fear of Saddam. Muslims are a peaceful people, and because not all have the full freedoms to achieve their dreams (like those in Iraq), they can not comprehend the ability they have within themselves to defy someone. So they follow fear as that is all they have ever known, all they comprehend. That was the whole goal of Saddam and any leader who suppress the education of their people. To keep them in fear.

For heavens sake, the Church of England kept education from Christians for centuries for the same purpose. To keep Christians in fear so that the CHURCH could control & rule. That is the biggest reason for America’s constitutional statement regarding the separation of Church and Sate. It has nothing to do with religeon & prayer, but everything to do with one entities control of a people.

AND THAT IS WHY AMERICAN boys & girls, men & women are sent to fight for freedom across the world. Because the officials of those countries, AFGHANISTAN in the 80s for example, have PLEADED with America to come to their aid. WHY? Because their people DID NOT HAVE & STILL DON’T HAVE THE FREEDOMS that Americans have. THEY therefore do not understand how to motivate themselves, how to rise-up and fight for something they believe in because they ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BELIEVE IN THEMSELVES & THEIR OWN POTENTIAL WITHIN THEIR OWN COUNTRY. How can they possibly believe in their ability to fight the enemy if they do not believe and have confidence in themselves?

IT IS ONLY IN KNOWING & HAVING FREEDOM that you have the opportunity, IF YOU CHOOSE, to be educated, the opportunity to believe in yourself and therefore improve your life for your yourself & your family. To place yourself where YOU WANT TO BE, not where your government or dictator TELLS you to be.

THAT IS WHAT FREEDOM & AMERICA IS ALL ABOUT. IT IS NOT ABOUT MONEY & GREED for moneys sake. Not for most Americans. IT'S ABOUT MAKING A BETTER LIFE, AND A BETTER DEATH, FOR YOURSELF & YOUR FAMILY.

THAT FREEDOM allows us to express soooo many emotions. COMPASSION being our strongest emotion as a group of people. AND SO WE ALLOW OUR CHILDREN, HUSBANDS & WIVES to FIGHT & DIE FOR YOUR FREEDOMS AT THE REQUEST OF YOUR OFFICIALS.

AS WE DID in World War I for Russia, France & Britain.

LIKE WE DID AGAIN FOR FRANCE, and yes, even the majority of the German people who hated & feared Hitler for his threats to them during World War II.

AND AS WE CONTINUE to do in South Korea with our MEN & WOMEN protecting YOUR BORDER to North Korea.

IT IS THE COMPASSION OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE that allows us, to let OUR GOVERNMENT hand to South Korea and hundreds of other countries across the world TRILLIONS of OUR AMERICAN MONEY FOR OTHER COUNTRIES COMFORT & SAFETY. I WORKED for that money, sometimes 14-16 hour days for food, shelter & comfort. I have worked since I was 14 years old. Contributing to the tax base. 75% OF AMERICANS WORK THEIR TAILS OFF and contribute greatly to the tax base which is USED BY OUR GOVERNMENT TO MAKE OTHER PEOPLE IN OTHER COUNTRIES MORE COMFORTABLE & HAPPY. TO FEED THEM, GIVE THEM MEDICAL SUPPLIES, HELP THEM TO TRAIN THEIR OWN ARMIES. THAT IS MY MONEY & EVERY AMERICAN HARD EARNED MONEY. Helping you and your country.

My American life, my comfort, my dieing days are compromised so that my money can aid you today. Do not ever call me or my fellow Americans selfish. Forgive them Lord for they have abosulutely no idea what they do. And their governments are too embarrassed at the extent to which Americans give to ever explain that to their people.

DUE to the world's current views of America & it's people. SOMEDAY SOON, we will not allow our government to give so freely. BECAUSE WE DECIDE, WE MAKE THE VOTE, WE ELECT OUR OFFICIALS.

CONTINUE in your selfish VERBAL & PHYSICAL ATTACKS on America & it's people and WE WILL VOTE TO CLOSE OUR DOORS, CLOSE OUR BORDERS, AND CLOSE OUR HEARTS FOREVER.


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TT: that has got to be the best message that I have ever read online- bar none. Thank YOU for your most elgant and eloquent effort at putting into words, what most Americans can not find the proper words to express, and what many non-Americans unfortunately can not begin to understand from afar. Perhaps by reading your words, they may begin to realize for once and for all, that America is not- nor has it ever been- like the tyrants whom we have protected so many from so selflessly, for so long, at such great personal sacrifice, in the name of freedom and liberty for all.
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Ticker,

That is so right on so many differnt levels, I can not even express the emotions I have running thought my veins right now. I thank you for expressing what I believe so many feel.

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TickerToo, You have a wonderful way of expressing the feelings and thoughts of many American patriots. Thank you for posting that here. -Debi I cannot for the life of me understand the mentality of the terrorists who see so little value in anyone's life including their own.
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