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http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=QQQQ&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p98556303191

Yep, them $45 Puts look nice [Smile]

I decided to buy 4 of them with the virtual account to see which one pays the best. April, May, June and Sept.

Of course the April option with 11 days left was cheapest. I want to see first hand how the 11 days left effects the option. I'll let you know ~

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FWIW

All Puts are positive now accept the Sept $45 put (even).

Bought $500 of each (roughly) and the April put is at +$32. the May Put is at $10. and the June Put is at $4. The Sept Put is even.

FYI
That's it for now ~ [Smile]

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http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=QQQQ&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p98556303191

Everything looking saaweet ~ [Big Grin]

*remember these are only $500 buys ins.
Put update:
April + $56.
May + $30.
Jun + $12.
Sept + $9.

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Bought QQQDS (apr 45 C) * 0.26
Sold today * 0.38. Got close to day hi 0.40. After I sold it tanked to 0.26 again.

Hold: 3 business days

I seldom go long on opts ( or long anything ) but did it this time.

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Nice play JLo...looks like those shorter term options trade nicely for quick plays.

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Nice play JLo! "sweet"


http://www.investors.com/editorial/poll.asp#about

Consumer Confidence Falls Again
LOS ANGELES (April 10, 2006) — Consumer confidence slipped for the third month in a row in April, with the IBD/TIPP Economic Optimism Index registering a pessimistic score of 45.5, an 18-month low. This is down 5.3 points, or 10.4%, from March's reading of 50.8 and 4.8 points below its 12-month average.

Over 50 means optimism; below 50 indicates pessimism.

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=QQQQ&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p81641208881

So far momentum bar is shorter [Smile]
--and I'm seeing a Stochastic cross negative [Big Grin]
Now to close below that $44.50 mark again and it's off to the bank to cash in those PUTS!!

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quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
Nice play JLo...looks like those shorter term options trade nicely for quick plays.

I'm seeing that the SHORTER term options are reacting MORE then the longer term ones....

There's the catch I guess...
It'll pay more to buy "this months" options on a flip, but if for some reason (remember when the FED posting that news!) stochastic does a head fake you lose...

"Something to think about"
Not that safe, but darn they pay good [Smile]

In looking backwards in the charts, over 90% of trades should turn a profit if you aren't greedy and wait to long...

I think you would be fine if your account was divided into 5 parts and you bet 1/5th per trade, cause in backtesting clearly you would have won alot more then not...

FWIW ~

JLo how do you run your account??? Do anything special?

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Well, it looks like its time to buy more puts or double down on what I've got.

I just can't decide on what to do though. The put I'm holding (should have cut it loose long ago) is way out of the money....its a June 40.

I don't know whether to double down on it (and average down to .37) or buy a closer to the money put (Jun or Sept).

What do you guys say?

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http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=QQQQ&p=D&yr=0&mn=6&dy=0&id=p15210234020

Milliam, my 2 cents would be to go for a new Put. $40 was/is a target point, but then the FED kept interest rates the same and the market rallied, it may still pull back to there but I think it's time to get a new $45 Put, you could go with this months which expire in 10 days (cheap),
-Stochastic does look like it's going to do a dive....

Or snag a less risky one a month or two out, that's your call.

Then just watch Stochastic's and Momentum bars for flips...

If you want super safe plays buy off a WEEKLY chart at extreme lows/highs 6-9 months out.

GL!!
Let us know how/what you do [Smile]

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I hope you are right about the Stochastic doing a dive...I'm ready to see one!

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http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=QQQQ&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p88021987545

Well hopefully that Money Flow will dry up now ~

Really low volume...
Tomorrow should be a good day I would think ~

"time will tell"

Feb 20th there was a pattern with Stochastic like this, then look what happened.... [Smile]

Catch you tomorrow Board!
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I just put in a buy for some May 44 puts.

We'll see how they do.

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I sure hope this is a sign of things to come...DROP BABY DROP!

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You can run but you can't hide from Stochastic! [Big Grin]

BooYaah!! [Smile]

Remember the gap to be filled:
up Apr-03-2007 43.76 to 43.79


Support/Resistance/how many times hit
resist. 44.69 4
supp 44.41 6
supp 44.09 2
supp 43.55 21
supp 42.95 5
supp 42.82 2
supp 42.41 4
supp 42.15 2
supp 41.81 2

$43.55 is a major one!

Let's see how fall she falls on this Stochastic ride down before it resets [Smile]
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=QQQQ&p=D&yr=0&mn=6&dy=0&id=p48695839968

Here are the test results so far from the different month buys of PUTS.

.QQQPS QQQQ APR 45 Put
8 bought at $0.67 $536.00
now at 0.88 $704.00 or profit of $168.00

QQQQS QQQQ MAY 45 Put
5 bought at $1.06 $530.00
now at 1.23 $615.00 or profit of $85.00

.QQQRS QQQQ JUN 45 Put
4 bought $1.34 $536.00
now at 1.48 $592.00 or profit of $56.00

.QQQUS QQQQ SEP 45 Put
3 bought $1.93 $579.00
now at 2.08 $624.00 or profit of $45.00

Notice the more risky ones pay better ~
[CHIT!!] LMAO [Big Grin]

Later Board! [Smile]

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The full stochastic is pretty much the bomb when it comes to the QQQQs...

Note about your risky plays...if you look at the profit per contract, your profit amount was .20 give or take....the reason the risky ones were more profitable is because you could buy more with the same amount of capital. If you have more capital to play with, you can take less risk and get the same $ profit (but not %)

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Anyone think we can get to those BEEEAAAAUUUUUUUUUTIFUL 43s today?

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Holy snike-ies! lol ~

.QQQPS QQQQ APR 45 Put 8 $0.67 $536.00
0.99 $792.00

Almost a 50% profit in a day on that Risky PUT! $256.00 in the green now off $536.00 [Big Grin]

$43.98 next support level! [Smile]

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Very risky PUT....even though the profit was there, I think I would have had to stick with May or later....only two days til expiration on April.

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There's actually another week until April expiration, but it is close. I couldn't bring myself to buy the April 44 Put, but its up 71% for the day. The May 44 I bought is only up 31%.
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Once we make some coin we HAVE TO slam some "Riskies" every now and then!

Come on gang! LMAO ~~

SherriT remember when we bagged bottoms with pennies? We can do that here it seems to!

Optionsxpress charts let you chart options as well!

type in .qqqps [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

I'm lov'n options!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Yep, Chart, I sure do...except I was so new then that I didn't quite understand what you guys were talking about... [Confused] But now, AFTER I get a good trading base, I would be willing to try a more risky plan now and then...

Risk has eaten my tail this week, so I am gunshy [Smile]

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great topic enjoying everyones views now that the q's have made those buying puts money following the same charts as before at the bottom of the stochastics below 20 we ride calls back up is that right
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quote:
Originally posted by Chart walker:
You can run but you can't hide from Stochastic! [Big Grin]

BooYaah!! [Smile]

Remember the gap to be filled:
up Apr-03-2007 43.76 to 43.79


Support/Resistance/how many times hit
resist. 44.69 4
supp 44.41 6
supp 44.09 2
supp 43.55 21
supp 42.95 5
supp 42.82 2
supp 42.41 4
supp 42.15 2
supp 41.81 2

$43.55 is a major one!

Let's see how fall she falls on this Stochastic ride down before it resets [Smile]
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=QQQQ&p=D&yr=0&mn=6&dy=0&id=p48695839968

Here are the test results so far from the different month buys of PUTS.

.QQQPS QQQQ APR 45 Put
8 bought at $0.67 $536.00
now at 0.88 $704.00 or profit of $168.00

QQQQS QQQQ MAY 45 Put
5 bought at $1.06 $530.00
now at 1.23 $615.00 or profit of $85.00

.QQQRS QQQQ JUN 45 Put
4 bought $1.34 $536.00
now at 1.48 $592.00 or profit of $56.00

.QQQUS QQQQ SEP 45 Put
3 bought $1.93 $579.00
now at 2.08 $624.00 or profit of $45.00

Notice the more risky ones pay better ~
[CHIT!!] LMAO [Big Grin]

Later Board! [Smile]

Chart ~

Chart, when did you buy these on the 10th or 11th?

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Good Morning Jenna!
Long time no see Sunshine [Smile]

Here is a copy of my buy in log, bought in on 4/9.

Date/Action/Qty/Symbol/Description/Price/Commission/Net/Amount

4/9/2007 Buy To Open 3 .QQQUS QQQQ SEP 45 Put $1.930 $14.95 ($593.95)
4/9/2007 Buy To Open 4 .QQQRS QQQQ JUN 45 Put $1.340 $14.95 ($550.95)
4/9/2007 Buy To Open 5 .QQQQS QQQQ MAY 45 Put $1.060 $14.95 ($544.95)
4/9/2007 Buy To Open 8 .QQQPS QQQQ APR 45 Put $0.670 $14.95 ($550.95)

We're gapping DOWN hard as I write this [BOOYAAH!] Thanks to Mr. Negative Stochastic! [Smile]
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=QQQQ&p=D&yr=0&mn=6&dy=0&id=p99532424222

Momentum bars are shrinking, -another good sign, people are dumping (Accum/Dist indicator)
-another good sign, but I noticed the CMoney flow grew.... "?" [Frown] [-not shown in this chart]

One in every crowd huh!! LOL ~

I mention the positive CMoney Flow so we can note how everything plays out...

jcluvsu2!! Hey I like that screen name! Welcome!!!

Hope we see some $43 action today! [Smile]

GL Board!
Chart ~

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"Optionsmart" (a PAID service) sent me this pimping email, some guy was happy about making 6.5% in 9 days! LOL ~
[sounds like a BAIL OUT to me, not something to brag about IMO ~] Our top pick here at Allstocks was at 50% yesterday. --2 days! [Big Grin]
And we're gapping down today! WAAAHOOO!!! [Big Grin]
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Wednesday, April 11, 2007

Testimonials

"You are doing a great job, smart traders like you are the reason I quit trading the stock market."
We have made 6.5% Gain in 9 Days!
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Hmmmm,....
I wonder if I should start a..... naaa ~ [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Chart walker:
"Optionsmart" (a PAID service) sent me this pimping email, some guy was happy about making 6.5% in 9 days! LOL ~
[sounds like a BAIL OUT to me, not something to brag about IMO ~] Our top pick here at Allstocks was at 50% yesterday. --2 days! [Big Grin]
And we're gapping down today! WAAAHOOO!!! [Big Grin]
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Wednesday, April 11, 2007

Testimonials

"You are doing a great job, smart traders like you are the reason I quit trading the stock market."
We have made 6.5% Gain in 9 Days!
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Hmmmm,....
I wonder if I should start a..... naaa ~ [Big Grin]

You're a smart guy Chart! Your years of studying is paying off for you (I hope)! Well done! Just play everything in life as wisely. GLTY
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quote:
Originally posted by jcluvsu2:
great topic enjoying everyones views now that the q's have made those buying puts money following the same charts as before at the bottom of the stochastics below 20 we ride calls back up is that right

Yes, the idea is when the Stochastic bottoms out, you would buy calls....

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I'm liking the Qs - liked em better below 44, but I'll take the trading so far...I know where it's going next [Wink]

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Did everyone remember the "Gap" strategy? [Smile]

Right on the money again ~ (90+% of the time they close the same day). FYI ~

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Check out those risky plays now. They are really taking a hit. Shows how risky they are and how you don't want to stay in them too long.

The April 44 put is down 22% while the May 44 put is only down 8%.

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quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Check out those risky plays now. They are really taking a hit. Shows how risky they are and how you don't want to stay in them too long.

The April 44 put is down 22% while the May 44 put is only down 8%.

Yep, if playing those I would use 1 minute intraday charts for sure. I would feel safe doing that with the "risky" (this month) trades.

So, we learned that a nice gap down with a growing CMoney Flow will slam a gap shut didn't we! [Smile] Sweet! Remember I pointed the CMoney Flow thing out this morning, and here we are!

And with those prices tanking on the "riskies" all I can think about is BARGAIN PRICES!

This is what I mean...
Intraday chart them, when they are way oversold on a 5 minute chart and turning south on a 1 minute chart BUY THEM. A couple minutes and a couple cents down and you have a quick nice intraday trade with options IMO.

A chart an indicator nut can clean up, or down! LOL ~
Price "movement" is all you need.
Think about that....

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You are welcome for the compliment Chart.... [Roll Eyes]
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quote:
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You are welcome for the compliment Chart.... [Roll Eyes]

Thanks,... Sorry New2 ~ [Smile]

Just over busy today, I see in looking back I missed jcluvsu2 question about Stochastic, but SherriT nailed it [Smile]

I'm human, sorry peeps! [Big Grin]

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Chart? When you have a minute - look at CROX for me - the Stochastic is pegged on the daily...on one hand, I would expect to start going lower, but we are also heading into summer and Crocs season....curious what you thought...

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CROX comment coming tomorrow SherriT [Smile]

Earning reports came out, rallied the cubes.
POS. ha ~
Haven't said that since trading pennies! [Smile]

Really miss pennies... NOT!
Dilution, SEC shutting you down, scams, pump and dumps, stock manipulation, shady CEO's, BS PR's... I could go on and on... [Frown]

Love my cubes!
Biggest "problem" we come across are news reports of earnings or the FED. Basic everyday stuff.
That I can deal with... [Smile]
Later Board

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