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Author Topic:   DD on PRRM Called the CEO tonight!
bleech1
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posted November 11, 2004 12:36     Click Here to See the Profile for bleech1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awfully low volume on this one today.

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tyleemary
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posted November 15, 2004 13:09     Click Here to See the Profile for tyleemary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where is our Div. ?

Sorry, just pretending I would actually see it!

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zippycal
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posted November 15, 2004 17:02     Click Here to See the Profile for zippycal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did this thing actually hit .001 today ?

All the charts I can find showed it start going up around 11 and back down to normal at around 2.


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tyleemary
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posted November 15, 2004 17:08     Click Here to See the Profile for tyleemary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, my chart showed that price also.
I put in a sell at just below it just in case it was for real.
Ofcourse, nothing came of it.

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Phoenixx
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posted November 16, 2004 12:50     Click Here to See the Profile for Phoenixx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zippycal:
Did this thing actually hit .001 today ?

All the charts I can find showed it start going up around 11 and back down to normal at around 2.


chris


Sounds like a fat-fingered expensive mistake. Meant to buy at .0001 and bought at .001 by accident.

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valves
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posted November 17, 2004 10:36     Click Here to See the Profile for valves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Prime Rate Investors, Inc. Closes Acquisition of Lake Placid, NY TV Station
via COMTEX

November 17, 2004

STOWE, Vt., Nov 17, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) --

Prime Rate Investors, Inc. (OTC.PK: PRRM) announced it has closed its acquisition of Lake Placid, NY's Adirondack TV-33. ADK TV-33 is an RSN broadcast affiliate and producer of Lake Placid's first and only live morning show "Adirondack Today" in addition to special events coverage and other productions targeting the millions of annual visitors to the Tri Lakes Region of New York's Adirondack Park. Lake Placid is the "Winter Sports Capitol of the World" and host of the 1932 and 1980 Winter Olympics. It was here in 1980 that the U.S. hockey team beat Russia in the "Miracle on Ice" gold medal game. Each year thousands of winter athletes train and compete in Lake Placid in luge, bobsled, alpine and nordic ski racing, ski jumping, ice skating, hockey, snowboarding and aerial ski and snowboard jumping. By summer Lake Placid hosts equally diverse events from summer athlete training to concert series, the Lake Placid Film Festival, and the prestigious Lake Placid Horse Show. "Adirondack TV-33 is the flagship operation of Prime Rate Investors' network of RSN broadcast affiliates," remarked PRRM President Dan Burgess. It's website is www.adktv33.com.

Prime Rate Investors (OTC.PK: PRRM) is a multi-media holding company with interests in outdoor sports, e-tail, retail, print, web, television and film. The company's strategic relationships with multi-faceted, outdoor sports entities allow it to offer diverse advertising solutions to businesses seeking multi-media exposure. Based in Stowe, Vermont, its wholly owned subsidiaries include: High Angle Media, Inc., a video production company and Stowe TV-10, an RSN network affiliate and cable broadcast company that reaches nearly a million viewers annually.

For more information, visit the company's websites www.prrm.us and www.highanglemedia.com.

This release includes forward-looking statements made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 that involve risks and uncertainties including, but not limited to, the impact of competitive products, the ability to meet customer demand, the ability to manage growth, acquisitions of technology, equipment, or human resources, the effect of economic and business conditions, and the ability to attract and retain skilled personnel. The Company is not obligated to revise or update any forward-looking statements in order to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this release.

SOURCE: Prime Rate Investors

Prime Rate Investors Dan Burgess, 802-253-0199 http://www.prrm.us E-mail: info@stowetv10.com

Copyright (C) 2004 Business Wire. All rights reserv

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jca_1986
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posted November 17, 2004 13:49     Click Here to See the Profile for jca_1986     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
when are we going to see NHGP show up on etrade?

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tyleemary
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posted November 17, 2004 18:26     Click Here to See the Profile for tyleemary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is the response to an email I sent yesterday asking about the div. shares.
________________________________________

"Ian Lamphere" <info@stowetv10.com> To: info@stowetv10.com
Subject: NHGP Dividend Information
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 11:28:06 -0500


Hello: the dividend was processed on Monday, Nov. 15. Shares will show in your account soon if not already. Please contact your broker-dealer for more information.

Thank you for your concern.

Best Regards,

Ian Lamphere

Vice President

Prime Rate Investors, Inc.

High Angle Media, Inc.

Adirondack TV-33/Stowe TV-10

145 S. Main St.

Stowe, VT 05672

(802)253-0199

info@stowetv10.com

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tarq3
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posted November 19, 2004 08:53     Click Here to See the Profile for tarq3     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By: R.J.Trotts
18 Nov 2004, 06:27 PM EST
Msg. 10211 of 10261
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VERY INTERESTING TALK WITH THE COMPANY...

I talked to Dan today with the company...he was very upbeat about the future of this company, and ASSURED that there was NO Reverse Split...but he had to authorize the high A/S. He paid alot for this shell, and alot for each of these aquired companies...
I found out Astrom has NOTHING to do with this company--he was only the past owner of this ticker. Dan paid him for this and he is history... That is great news, Astrom is a crook from long ago.
About the dividend, he assured that the paperwork was completed on Monday, and we should see the stock appear in our account in a day or so.
We are currently in Stage One with PRRM, the mgmt has been in control for only a FEW weeks. And we have 2 aquired companies...there is a total of six according to Dan. This Stage One will continue through 1Q 2005.
About numbers, he is waiting on all of the aquired companies to be added, and then the PR will come out about the numbers. He is estimating market cap to be $25-65M, that is a huge gap, but alot depends on growth with each of the companies.
There are about 45 employees between all the offices, and aquired companies, that means this is NO LONGER a shell.
This guy was impressive to talk to and if he was telling the truth only half way, I am happy to be here, and if he was TOTALLY HONEST. I think that we could see .001, by the time March 2005, gets here and we know the NUMBERS.
Lets just be patient with these guys. They are cleaning up this OLD Mortgage Business, and turning it into a MEDIA GIANT...I am happy to be loaded up, and given the chance after my visit with Dan, I will add more...RJ

this is just an overview of some of what we talked about today, call him for yourself, he will share this with you, Everything talked about here is in past PR's----nothing here is confidential...but it was great to hear it from the President of our little jewel here...

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tyleemary
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posted November 19, 2004 14:28     Click Here to See the Profile for tyleemary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is good to read.
NHGP is trading now, .27 last I checked.
I only have 1.5 mil of prrm, so I guess I am supposed to 15,000 of NHGP.

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qnique
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posted November 19, 2004 14:36     Click Here to See the Profile for qnique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why is it at 0002 and scottrade still has it at 0001?

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stockfreak
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posted November 19, 2004 14:49     Click Here to See the Profile for stockfreak     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
does anyone know when we are gonna get our shares from prrm and does anyone no if they will be restricted.
thanks and glta

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tyleemary
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posted November 19, 2004 15:24     Click Here to See the Profile for tyleemary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Read tarq3 post up above.
Maybe in a couple days we'll see the NHGP shares.

I've been using Harrisdirect.com for a few years and they seem to be pretty accurate with the qoutes.

Anybody ever deal with 'sharebuilder.com' ??

It seems ok since you can invest little by little, if you don't have a big chunk at the time.

Ofcourse the stocks have to meet their criteria. And prrm is not one of them.

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tyleemary
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posted November 19, 2004 15:27     Click Here to See the Profile for tyleemary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Press Release Source: National Hospitality Group, Inc.


National Hospitality Group Inc. Receives 3,000 new shareholders from PRRM spin-off
Friday November 19, 8:00 am ET


ST. PETERSBURG, Fla., Nov. 19, 2004 (PRIMEZONE) -- National Hospitality Group., Inc., (Other OTC:NHGP.PK - News) a majority-owned subsidiary of Prime Rate Investors, Inc., announces that on November 15, 2004, approximately 3,000 shareholders of Prime Rate Investors, Inc. (Other OTC:PRRM.PK - News) will be issued shares of National Hospitality Group, Inc. in a dividend distribution, resulting in the PRRM shareholders owning all of PRRM's interest in NHGP directly. The distribution of shares issued will be in the ratio of one (1) share of NHGP for every one hundred (100) shares of PRRM owned on September 30, 2004. Damian Guthrie, President of NHGP said, ``We are pleased to welcome the shareholders of PRRM as direct shareholder in NHGP, and we are excited that this event will create liquidity in the stock and bring a tremendous visibility to the company.''
ADVERTISEMENT


Tampa Bay Mortgage Solutions, Inc., the wholly owned subsidiary of National Hospitality Group, Inc., will continue to execute the same business model that it performed when the Company was the subsidiary of Prime Rate Investors, Inc., including management and location.

National Hospitality Group, Inc. operates through its wholly owned subsidiary Tampa Bay Mortgage Solutions, Inc., which is a direct lender specializing in short-term asset based lending. The company specializes in acquisition financing, construction loans and lines of credit for builders. The mission of the company is to build a diverse portfolio of debt and equity instruments that will provide the shareholders with both current income and capital appreciation. The specialty of the company is ``hassle-free, hard equity loans.'' The company has a web site http://www.nhgp.net.

The release includes forward-looking statements made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 that involves risks and uncertainties including, but not limited to, the impact of competitive products, the ability to meet customer demand, the ability to manage growth, acquisitions of technology, equipment, or human resources, the effect of economic business conditions, and the ability to attract and retain skilled personnel. The Company is not obligated to revise or update any forward-looking statements in order to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this release.

Contact:

National Hospitality Group, Inc.
Damian Guthrie
President
(786) 246-1077
(727) 894-4520 www.nhgp.net
tsolution@tampabay.rr.com


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qnique
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posted November 19, 2004 15:29     Click Here to See the Profile for qnique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MAN, MY account just went from 1400 to 14,000 just like that. DAYUMM

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qnique
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posted November 19, 2004 15:39     Click Here to See the Profile for qnique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Man I think scottrade made a mistake, they are showing 002 and yahoo is show 0002. Dang my bad ya'll

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tyleemary
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posted November 19, 2004 15:43     Click Here to See the Profile for tyleemary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NATIONAL HOSPITALITY GROUP NB (NHGP) Trade Set Alerts!


Quote as of 11/19/2004 15:42 ET
Chart

Real-Time

Last: 0.27 Vol.: 15,000
Change: +0.02
8.00% Tick: Down
Bid: 0.25 Ask: N/A

Open: 0.25 Mkt Cap: N/A
Prev. Close: 0.25
Market: OTC
Day High: 0.27 Day Low: 0.25
52-Week High: 0 52-Week Low: 0




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tarq3
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posted November 20, 2004 15:22     Click Here to See the Profile for tarq3     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting read from another board.
mountnbiker wrote:

Hi R.J. and thanks.

I really like the fact that the bottom seems to have dropped out of daily average trading volume and the fact that it's very sudden and very dramatic and I'm anxious to see if it continues next week. And if it does it'll be speaking for itself loudly and clearly 'cause it'll mean that the huge daily volumes we've seen up 'til recently have been far and away the self-serving antics of certain MM's acting on behalf of one or more of their larger clients in combination with cellar boxing in general (without the massive naked shorting) on the parts of other MM's. (A fun combo.) Next week's daily average trading volume is gonna be very telling. Telling to the point that the MM's in general will react to any change in trading motives of their brethren if indeed those motives have changed. And everyone involved will know by the average daily volume number. So I say let's hope it's low 'cause it's good news. Which is an opinion that was echoed in a post earlier today. An opinion I wholly agree with. If next week's average daily volume is low (in relative terms) we're very likely gonna soon see average trading levels climb. The MM's are gonna react to any decent buying pressure in order to profit from long positions (PRRM inventory). Something that hasn't been seen for quite some time because of that above mentioned large client(s) and the cellar boxing routine combo. MM's always go with the flow... order flow... except when circumstances dictate otherwise (what we've witnessed here of late and S-8 activity for example) and when those circumstances are no longer in evidence business as usual resumes.

Many here questioned the lack of MM response to obvious buying pressure at .0002 over the past couple of weeks and rightly so. It seemed strange and underhanded to all of us that strong buying at .0002 didn't result in the MM's moving the inside Bid and Ask up so they and us could close long positions at profit (if we so desired) but there were reasons. Lousy reasons to us but justifiable to the MM's. Get those reasons out of the picture and away we go whenever there's decent buying pressure. And as we close in on year end and the finalizing of the balance of the acquisitions and merger and such the buying pressure is very likely to indeed get strong. Real strong. PRRM has been of huge interest across the investing spectrum for several weeks now (daily volume leader and message board most active list leader, etc.). It's being watched closely. Real closely. And by a great many. And it only makes perfect sense that given all that is widely known about the company (great management, acquisitions, merger, alliances, no R/S, etc.) if daily average trading volume does indeed remain low next week and the MM's do indeed start doin' their buying pressure thing that the fence-sitters (and many of us) will jump in for fear of having to pay higher prices down the road. A domino effect that could mushroom into a run. A run that the MM's will be a big party to as no one likes to maximize profits more than the MM's. Their greed knows no bounds. Money rules. (How strong any OTC/BB run is overall always depends in large part upon the overall extent of MM short positions that are opened during the run.)

Next week will tell the story. Gonna be interestin'.

Fundamentally, things continue to look up for the company and its shareholders for sure but here in pennyland the MM's are always a major part of how big and how quick any profits are. Just the way it is.

biker

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qnique
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posted November 22, 2004 14:53     Click Here to See the Profile for qnique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This stock is just impossible to sell. Is anybody else having problems selling this?

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tyleemary
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posted November 22, 2004 15:06     Click Here to See the Profile for tyleemary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have been trying for awhile at .0002

No luck

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qnique
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posted November 22, 2004 15:09     Click Here to See the Profile for qnique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HOW LONG? I been trying to sell for a week. I hate I even got this stock. I could be making money elsewhere.

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tigertony
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posted November 22, 2004 18:49     Click Here to See the Profile for tigertony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If this is correct the shares are restricted and can't be sold.Waiting for another response.

Thank you for your patience while I researched your question.
Depository Trust Company (DTC) does show the spin-off from PRRM, payable 11/15
to holders of settlement date 9/30. DTC has not distributed the
shares, they are awaiting payment from the agent. These are restricted
shares so it is hard to say when payment will be made. We will allocate to
shareholders once received from DTC.

The dividend for MLON has already posted to your account. You received
one share of WLSC for every one hundred shares of MLON. I hope this
information is helpful.

If you have further concerns or inquiries, please reply to this
message.

Sincerely,

Tina Nauman
Client Services, Ameritrade
Division of Ameritrade, Inc.

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tarq3
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posted November 24, 2004 08:37     Click Here to See the Profile for tarq3     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
interesting comments from another board:

And yeah I'm with you. I figure we'll do just fine here with a little patience. Afterall management themselves have reminded all of us a few times that they've only been on the job a short while and that what they're workin' on ain't about to happen overnight. But having said that... considering the rapid pace they've set so far we COULD see a catalyst to higher trading levels pretty much at any time. I know I'm ready and I know the MM's are ready now that the massive large block .0001 selling is at an end. And we've once again got buying at the Ask. And that's definitely a good sign. I'd say everyone watchin' is gettin' a little antsy knowing that we could be provided with the means for a run at any moment. Afterall there's lots of positive details to come with respect to stage one progress including the target details. And of course management have also told us that they'll PR ad revenues details. And probably a lot more. Afterall it's in everyone's best interest (including management's) to get as much positive information out to the buying public as possible. The stock goes nowhere without buying pressure. And management well know it.

The other thing I like (believe it or not) is the massive .0001 selling we've been witness to for the last while for the simple reason that since buying over the same period was nowhere near as strong the MM's are now sittin' on a boatload of PRRM inventory... they're long. And that means two things that benefit all of us greatly... one being that the only way to profit from long positions is to sell higher so the MM's now have a strong vested interest in moving us up... in keeping the inside Ask as high as possible. The other thing being that with holding so much PRRM inventory, if and when there IS a run, it'll be all that much stronger because the MM's won't be forced to open massive short positions... which is what happens during a run (buying frenzy) when they fill buy orders in the absence of inventory (when they sell what they ain't got).

Things are lookin' just fine so far. All's we need is a catalyst or two and there's plenty of potential for that.

The future is on its way.
We're all entitled to our personal perspectives. There's no two ways about that. MY primary argument is that it's only fair to the company and all of US that each of us sees both the pluses and the minuses and not just one or the other. That we each present here in our posts a balanced take of the company and its management. Such an approach is the ONLY realistic way to get to the bottom line. To determining whether or not buying & holding is the best call.

As for being realistic... at what stage in the proceedings have I not been realistic? Being realistic is precisely my point and that point is very clearly in evidence in each of my posts. As R.J. said... to stick to facts as much as possible and to keep speculation to a minimum. How far is wild guesswork likely to get us? We all know the realities of pennyland. There are no profit assurances. Whenever are there? It's in everyone's best interest to simply pay close attention to whatever details come our way and to take things one step at a time. To neither second guess ourselves into a hole nor to get too far ahead of ourselves. To remain balanced and levelheaded and simply figure things out through debate and discussion and such. And why?

Because many of us are holding a huge position in PRRM and as such if we do eventually see .01+ in the absence of a reverse many of us are going to be walking away with a HUGE piece of change. And certainly that's motive enough to give new management the benefit of our support since they've very clearly demonstrated to this point (in a variety of ways) that they ARE shareholder concerned. That they DO have bringing value to shareholders in mind. And you don't much see THAT in pennyland. Do you?

The other thing we need to keep in mind is PRRM's trading venue. There is no mandated obligation to file. It's a non-reporting status situation. Management are under no mandated obligation to publicly provide us with ANY numbers. And on a one-on-one basis their hands are tied to a degree due to new fair disclosure rules that universally apply. So any numbers that do come our way come courtesy of the good graces of management. Consideration for shareholders and such. So the more numbers details we become privy to over time the more obvious it becomes that management is on the up and up. The non-reporting status is reason enough for many companies to remain pink. Self-serving activities can be hidden from view. So we wait and see what comes our way... including a decision on that talked about move to the OTCBB (to be revisited after year end). That'd tell us a lot about how serious and concerned management really are. Right?

Stage one isn't complete yet and management have stated that when it is we'll be provided with numerous details. Exactly WHAT details remains to be seen. The bottom line being that they (management) are hard at work. On bringing value to both themselves and us. How it all turns out, and when, also remains to be seen.

As for the A/S, O/S, float and R/S issue... all of us here have pretty much beaten that one to death. What more can any of us say?

"life in the pinkies"

You said it

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posted November 27, 2004 13:35     Click Here to See the Profile for stockfreak     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
is this another cmkx or does anyone think this stock is worth hangin on to for awhile

GLTA

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posted November 27, 2004 14:43     Click Here to See the Profile for Doctoall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
May as well hang on to it, what would you get if you tried to see it??? The only way you could sell is to give it away at 0.0001 because it won't sell at 2. IMO with time this stock will happen, its a matter of time. 3.5 mil here and have no choice but to hold. I bought at 0.0001.

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posted November 27, 2004 17:39     Click Here to See the Profile for buyondip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stockfreak:
is this another cmkx or does anyone think this stock is worth hangin on to for awhile

GLTA


I think the jury still out on this one. I plan to hold as well. I'm holding about 3.6 mil, so I'm in like it or not. Can't seem to sell at .0002 and not really into giving anything away.

The company seems to have set its sites high, just taking some time to get there. Still waiting for that dividend as well!

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tyleemary
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posted November 27, 2004 20:34     Click Here to See the Profile for tyleemary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have any of you received your NHGP shares yet?

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lostone
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posted November 28, 2004 01:27     Click Here to See the Profile for lostone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm not expecting NHGP anytime soon.. and when that time comes, it will be difficult to sell at a decent price.. that sucker is gonna drop so much since everyone will want to dump. And i'm getting the feeling that PRRM won't be easy money.. "QBID" probably only happens once.. 9mil and not looking back.

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posted November 28, 2004 12:01     Click Here to See the Profile for Trader2003     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
i'm not expecting NHGP anytime soon.. and when that time comes, it will be difficult to sell at a decent price.. that sucker is gonna drop so much since everyone will want to dump. And i'm getting the feeling that PRRM won't be easy money.. "QBID" probably only happens once.. 9mil and not looking back.

Let me disagree , when I traded QBID early this year and start moving off the .0001 , we expected that it may actually run just like TASR did , and many said then that " TASR probably only happens once!!" I am not saying that It will run like QBID , it may run faster than qbid to even higher levels , and it may run only to .01 levels , I see similar aspects between QBID and PRRM such as the large OS , the huge ammount of shares been traded at .0001 but not yet as high as CMKX , also both are in media and TV broadcast , the difference I see between qbid and prrm is that the CEO of PRRM been more honest and open about the share structure , CEO of QBID been kind of sneaky about the OS and the A/S , now over 6 months since he announced that he would release to public the number of OS and still not , he raised the authorized to over 60 bil in secret and if it was not for some bashers posting at ragging bull , we would never known that either, also changed the type of affiliation between QBID and QTV only after some posters raised the question , here at PRRM the CEO clearly states that TV station they own is an affiliate . I honestly believe that the prospect of PRRM having a better run than QBID is very real .
Lets agree to disagree and good luck

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posted November 28, 2004 12:15     Click Here to See the Profile for Trader2003     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
i'm not expecting NHGP anytime soon.. and when that time comes, it will be difficult to sell at a decent price.. that sucker is gonna drop so much since everyone will want to dump. And i'm getting the feeling that PRRM won't be easy money.. "QBID" probably only happens once.. 9mil and not looking back.

IMO PRRM will run before you get any NHGP and when that happens I would care less about the NHGP , PPRM would be the money maker soon !!

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posted November 28, 2004 15:31     Click Here to See the Profile for lostone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't follow QBID, but those who did, could you please tell me if PRRM is at a comparable QBID phase, and which phase? Even if PRRM does run, I don't think it would be that quickly would it? these things take time to organize.. a lot of deals need to be made before a potential profit can be realized..

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posted November 28, 2004 19:17     Click Here to See the Profile for Trader2003     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
I didn't follow QBID, but those who did, could you please tell me if PRRM is at a comparable QBID phase, and which phase? Even if PRRM does run, I don't think it would be that quickly would it? these things take time to organize.. a lot of deals need to be made before a potential profit can be realized..

I did follow QBID from the begining , I bought over 50 mil at .0001 about a year ago , and yes I was very upset with QBID then , I did try to sell it for .0001 after watching it not moving for 2 months , and guess what , MMs will not buy it at .0001 not even sell market price for few weeks and not a single share was sold , in any case it did move up from .0001 early this year , and many got their doubles and triples etc early on , I sold 30 mil at .0025 early on and did hold
30 mil long , I sold then some at .02 when I seen it downtrending ( wish I sold all then ) , notice when QBID reached .0028 it had only a fraction of the OS that it has now , and I honestly doubt it will ever see .01 again , with the hype it may reach ,009-.009 and will not stay that high for long , traders simply dont trust the company not dumping at any major run , and already it is diluted , IMO I think QBID has more OS than PRRM at this point and will not be suprised if F. Olsen steps down after breaf run and cash followed by a nasty R/S , all that imo of course .
I remember when QBID ran to .0005 early last year , I would say 95% of investors sold , and then new investors and old new investors got back in at .001, major resitance that coincide with new investors arriving and old selling were at .0025 , .0035 , .0055 , .007 , .009 , and so on , it did seem that every .002 incrimints were marked with arrival of new investors and plder investors selling .

Back to PRRM , I can predict similar pattern of QBID to repeat itself.

Remember not to invrest more than you can afford to lose in any pink stock , and you have no chance of winning unless you in .

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posted November 28, 2004 19:28     Click Here to See the Profile for Forrestgump     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do agree with trader. I bought 3m of QBID half a hour before the run. PRRM has the same potentiel even more I think... I'm full of it

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posted November 28, 2004 19:35     Click Here to See the Profile for Boletus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IMO and to the best of my knowledge PRRM OS is 20B and QBID is 15.8B. Please clear this up for me. I own millions of both.

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stockfreak
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posted November 28, 2004 19:40     Click Here to See the Profile for stockfreak     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so you think prrm could possibly hit a penny by the beginning of next year.
and are you saying you think bid will never reach much more then a penny.
i own 200,000 shares of qbid and 1,899,999 shares of prrm i would love to see both of them over a penny so in your opinion which do you see making it over a penny first.

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posted November 28, 2004 22:58     Click Here to See the Profile for Trader2003     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stockfreak:
so you think prrm could possibly hit a penny by the beginning of next year.
and are you saying you think bid will never reach much more then a penny.
i own 200,000 shares of qbid and 1,899,999 shares of prrm i would love to see both of them over a penny so in your opinion which do you see making it over a penny first.


There is no question in my mind that the potential for trippling your investment is far more likely in PRRM than in QBID , now chance of making 100-1000 is almost Zero in QBID are very possible in PRRM . jmho

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posted November 28, 2004 23:01     Click Here to See the Profile for Trader2003     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Trader2003:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by stockfreak:
[b]so you think prrm could possibly hit a penny by the beginning of next year.
and are you saying you think bid will never reach much more then a penny.
i own 200,000 shares of qbid and 1,899,999 shares of prrm i would love to see both of them over a penny so in your opinion which do you see making it over a penny first.


There is no question in my mind that the potential for trippling your investment is far more likely in PRRM than in QBID , now chance of making 100-1000 is almost Zero in QBID are very possible in PRRM . jmho[/B][/QUOTE]

Did I say also that I am loaded in both QBID and PRRM , and in both at .0001

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posted November 28, 2004 23:05     Click Here to See the Profile for stockfreak     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well then you are sitting great because qbid is finally on the road and it isnt gonna stop until who knows when i am not saying prrm isnt either but i think that wont happen until late in 2005 by late 2005 qbid may be up around .20 - .30

Good luck on both

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posted November 28, 2004 23:11     Click Here to See the Profile for lilpennypincher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wanted to jump in here and say.....
Have you seen QBID's Chart lately.
WHOOOOOO!
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=4664141

With the volume......and the chart
You had better believe this baby will fly past .009.
Interested parties......read the first two pages of the QBID thread and see for yourselves where this co. has come in the last year and what it is doing now.
A little misinformation here.

Sorry to interrupt. Now back to your thread.

Lil

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stockfreak
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posted November 28, 2004 23:17     Click Here to See the Profile for stockfreak     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
amen Lil we need to all hang on this week for the qbid ride its gonna be awesome but dont worry there are gonna be lots more just like this week.
GLTA
Actually for the Qbid family there really isnt no more need for luck. Its Here and its gonna do nothing but get better.

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Originally posted by Boletus:
IMO and to the best of my knowledge PRRM OS is 20B and QBID is 15.8B. Please clear this up for me. I own millions of both.


Quoted From Frank Olsen during the Conference Call:

Frank Olsen: Thank you. Ok, the question was about the number of shares. There’s 9 and a half billion in the book. There’s 6 billion in institutional hands that is for security against agreements. That was money for gay games, that was money that was needed for borrowed programming and that’s what its there. We don’t expect to ______ the market. Now more of the questions we like to answer everything, if you’d like to add to that you can, but in the float there’s 9 and 1/2 billion.

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posted November 28, 2004 23:26     Click Here to See the Profile for Trader2003     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lilpennypincher:

Quoted From Frank Olsen during the Conference Call:

Frank Olsen: Thank you. Ok, the question was about the number of shares. There’s 9 and a half billion in the book. There’s 6 billion in institutional hands that is for security against agreements. That was money for gay games, that was money that was needed for borrowed programming and that’s what its there. We don’t expect to ______ the market. Now more of the questions we like to answer everything, if you’d like to add to that you can, but in the float there’s 9 and 1/2 billion.


Hate to admit that I used to fight bashers over raging bull board claiming that if you own QBID you dont necessarly own QTV , I hate to admit that bashers were right in many ways , PRs does state clearly now that Q television is nothing more than affiliate of QBID ..landed on this fact after lot of DD , even Frank in the CC admits the fact of QBID being shell company , thats why then I was not suprised to see that the A/S been increased to may be 100 bil and the OS never been clearly revelead , Known fact in Pink word that A/S is raisen whenever OS has swellen to the point of maxim equal or close to A/S . any opinions on that topic would be greatly appreciated.

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Originally posted by Trader2003:
IMO I think QBID has more OS than PRRM at this point and will not be suprised if F. Olsen steps down after breaf run and cash followed by a nasty R/S , all that imo of course .

DO you have a reason for that opinion? Why do you think QBID has more OS than PRRM? If it is just idle speculation on your part then say so. Reasoned opinion or idle speculation?

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posted November 29, 2004 00:01     Click Here to See the Profile for lilpennypincher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh boy.......I'm not going to Bombard the PRRM thread defending Q. All of the answers to your misinformation are clearly stated on the first 2 pages of the Q thread. All interested parties PLEASE visit, stop buy and read.
We have the run by the A$$ with Q this week and in the VERY near future. If your not in it now......

see ya' lata'

Lil

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posted November 29, 2004 00:06     Click Here to See the Profile for Trader2003     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Boletus:
DO you have a reason for that opinion? Why do you think QBID has more OS than PRRM? If it is just idle speculation on your part then say so. Reasoned opinion or idle speculation?

Bol: Have spoken to CEO of QBID few months ago , and never got close to get an idea about yhe OS , back in April PR we were supposed to get PR regarding the OS and the A/S , instead we got an increase of the A/S without shareholders even know about it if bashers did not bring it up on other boards , so far the closest number we got from the company and not official is that OS of QBID is like 16 bil if not mistaken , of course that number subject to change without previous notice since it was not official . On the other hand call CEO of PRRM , you will get no spins and he would tell you anything you want to know about share structure up front , for some reason amd from all mentioned above I feel OS of QBID and PRRM are pretty close even feel that PRRM may be slightly less. I wish both stocks go to the moon !! , but facts are stuborne and keep comming back to haunt you . Good luck

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posted November 29, 2004 00:11     Click Here to See the Profile for Boletus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL lil! The education will be forthcoming.

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posted November 29, 2004 00:20     Click Here to See the Profile for stockfreak     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have shares in both actually more in prrm and they really havent done anything great you cant even sell at .0002 and those spin off shares we got oh i mean we are suppose to get i am not saying someday prrm wont move up But it will be along time and i cant wait now on the other hand QBID IS NOW TAKING OFF AND ISNT SLOWING DOWN FOR NOTHING>
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Originally posted by Trader2003:
Bol: Have spoken to CEO of QBID few months ago , and never got close to get an idea about yhe OS , back in April PR we were supposed to get PR regarding the OS and the A/S , instead we got an increase of the A/S without shareholders even know about it if bashers did not bring it up on other boards , so far the closest number we got from the company and not official is that OS of QBID is like 16 bil if not mistaken , of course that number subject to change without previous notice since it was not official . On the other hand call CEO of PRRM , you will get no spins and he would tell you anything you want to know about share structure up front , for some reason amd from all mentioned above I feel OS of QBID and PRRM are pretty close even feel that PRRM may be slightly less. I wish both stocks go to the moon !! , but facts are stuborne and keep comming back to haunt you . Good luck

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posted November 29, 2004 00:22     Click Here to See the Profile for Boletus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
trader2003: pinksheets.com is where the wonderful PRRM management has been keeping OS #s up to date.
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/company_profile.jsp?symbol=PRRM
PRRM "Outstanding Shares: 20,619,218,278 as of 2004-09-29 "


So your estimate of 16B QBID would be less than the 20.6B PRRM. Don't get me wrong I own PRRM for many reasons and wish everyone holding PRRM here success. I'll go back to lurk for now. Good luck all.

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YOu guys are beating a dead horse! IT DOES NOT MATTER!!

The fact that ECNC did in fact jump from .03 to $18/Share. So to say that the O/S or Market Cap or whatever has an effect on the PPS is completely wrong. It's not only wrong in respect that it's wrong at face value but here's a stock that did and that speaks more then someone trying to tell us what can and can't happen.

Plus all the numerous other companies that did it throughout the 1990's.

QBID has hit .20 within 3 years and has had an all time high of $7. Now it's an actual network.

Learn your facts before posting. But it's ok if you miss the boat, I won't laugh.

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quote:
Originally posted by 1BigTip:
YOu guys are beating a dead horse! IT DOES NOT MATTER!!

The fact that ECNC did in fact jump from .03 to $18/Share. So to say that the O/S or Market Cap or whatever has an effect on the PPS is completely wrong. It's not only wrong in respect that it's wrong at face value but here's a stock that did and that speaks more then someone trying to tell us what can and can't happen.

Plus all the numerous other companies that did it throughout the 1990's.

QBID has hit .20 within 3 years and has had an all time high of $7. Now it's an actual network.

Learn your facts before posting. But it's ok if you miss the boat, I won't laugh.


Check out your facts about QBID , I will ride the hype right now , but remember that the facts dont go away and are stuborne and will come back to haunt you one day !!
I remeber Frank screaming at the hotline about not selling then at ( .02 ) , those who did sell and bought in back at .0025 would have had 10X the original shares they had , like if you sold 10 mil shares then at .025 and bought in last few weeks , you would have now over 100 mil shares without costing you a penny, IMO Frank is a savy swinger . dont let anyone tell you how to trade and when to sell or hold , we all trade in different ways and thats why there are losers and winners . If it was not for the losers , they would be No winners , happy trading !!!

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