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QBID IN THE DENVER MEDIA.

I post the whole article below the following two paragraphs. But these two paragraphs tell us something that I kept seeing over & over throughout that entire 2000-2002 period. Lack of satellite space & shortage of channels. You'll see the following two paragraphs again in the entire article posted afterwards.

"Without an overwhelming batch of phone calls from potential subscribers, finding space will be Gay TV's toughest sell. EchoStar's DishNetwork is already running out of channels, in part because of federal requirements to carry local broadcast channels in all major cities. Part of the motivation for EchoStar's controversial proposal to merge with its lone competitor, DirecTV, is to consolidate precious satellite space and solve the channel problem. EchoStar spokeswoman Judyann Atencio said the company has heard from Gay TV for about a year now, but no agreement is imminent. "A lot of channels come in to our programming department to make a pitch," she said. "Right now there's not a whole lot of room."

DENVER POSTIs the world ready for Gay TV?By Michael Booth Denver Post ColumnistWednesday, December 19, 2001 - The people who paid for full-page ads in daily papers across the nation last week certainly think so. Nine years after a brutal fight over gay rights dominated Colorado's political and cultural scene, a purple-tinted ad in Denver's papers told readers they could "invite Gay TV into your home!" The Triangle Television Network in California transmits 24 hours a day of gay-oriented, gay-friendly programming on a premium channel charging $9.95 a month. Some people with the older, 30-inch or larger dishes can already pull in the channel. The problem for Gay TV is that cable and satellite providers are already swamped with requests for space on their limited channel capacity. So the ads are aimed at prompting readers to call their provider and demand that Gay TV be included as a choice like other premium channels, such as HBO. In Denver, the ads were also aimed at the people who can make that decision. AT&T Broadband, the largest cable provider in the nation, and EchoStar, one of two satellite dish networks, are based in the Denver area. Triangle Television founder Frank Olsen said he bought ads in 16 cities "to get the cable companies aware of us." Supporters say their pitch is simple: There is already BET, Black Entertainment Television. There is Oxygen, a network oriented toward women. There are numerous Hispanic-interest channels. There's a channel for everything from master gardeners to conservative Christians. Why not a channel for gay interests - not pornography, not stereotypes, but plenty of news, movies and sporting events. "I sold black radio in the 1960s," said Olsen, who says he currently has 19,000 subscribers for Triangle Television and a cash infusion from investors. "There's still a few prejudices, but I think the time has come. Television has become more individual." Without an overwhelming batch of phone calls from potential subscribers, finding space will be Gay TV's toughest sell. EchoStar's DishNetwork is already running out of channels, in part because of federal requirements to carry local broadcast channels in all major cities. Part of the motivation for EchoStar's controversial proposal to merge with its lone competitor, DirecTV, is to consolidate precious satellite space and solve the channel problem. EchoStar spokeswoman Judyann Atencio said the company has heard from Gay TV for about a year now, but no agreement is imminent. "A lot of channels come in to our programming department to make a pitch," she said. "Right now there's not a whole lot of room." Finding advertisers, though, is not as hard as it used to be. Major ad buyers from Coors to American Express to American Airlines have set up marketing campaigns aimed at gay consumers, many of whom register high on surveys of disposable income. Programmers have made a few attempts at gay-oriented channels before, said David Smith, spokesman for the Human Rights Campaign Fund, a gay rights advocacy group in Washington, D.C. "Absolutely, it's time," Smith said. "It's a community service. And it's long overdue." It remains a touchy subject, however. Olsen asserts that digital technology means no viewer will come across the channel while surfing if they aren't a subscriber. It may seem an odd ambition, for an influential interest group to welcome becoming "just another channel" among hundreds. But in TV-oriented America, gaining a channel niche may paradoxically be exactly the right way to go mainstream. Part of arriving in a free market culture is to be targeted for your money, not just your politics. Michael Booth's consumer column appears here Wednesdays. Reach him with questions or suggestions at mbooth@denverpost.com or 303-820-1686.SOURCE = http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1002,141%257E281404,00.html

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The last paragraph talks about licensed programming. I've got another post later that tells us WHERE some of the programming comes from.

NewsTriangle Multi-Media, Inc., President Frank Olsenenlists gay community for support Palm Springs CA, Jan 10, 2002 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) -- Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc. (NQB Pink Sheet - QBID) President Frank Olsen stated that after five years of communicating to major corporations and broadcast companies the important need for gay television, Triangle Multi-Media, owners of Triangle Television Network (TTN), a gay and lesbian television network now broadcasting, was pleased to see the interest of Showtime, HBO and MTV in gay networks as covered in the recent "Robbins Report" written by Max J. Robbins.Olsen stated, "The Triangle Television Network has been aggressively seeking placement with cable and satellite companies. One of TTN`s challenges has been to convince companies such as AOL-Time Warner and other program providers the value of the market. With the recent article by Max Robbins, it seems that these companies have finally stood up and responded to the gay and lesbian market. Now all TTN has to do is convince cable providers to begin broadcasting our signal."Olsen emphasized the fact that "TTN`s signal is digitally broadcast and will enter no home unless it is invited. TTN provides quality programming. We consider it gay and lesbian family programming.""TTN currently stands with over 30,000 potential subscribers who agree to pay over $15 per month to receive the programming," Olsen added, "but, as yet, no major players have come forward to carry our signal. I know some major networks are planning to launch gay channels within the next year, but TTN is ready today. I hope members of the gay and lesbian community will call their cable companies and ask them to carry the TTN signal now."Olsen further stated, "I believe TTN has the largest library of gay programming in the world. TTN has licensed thousands of hours of programming and is in the process of developing thousands of hours of new programming, such as Gay American Bandstand, Gay Court, Gay Dating Game and our lead show Good Morning Gay America, to name just a few."

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Wish the entire format of these articles showed up... you know, the colors and fancy background.

Anyway, 1st part talks about exerpts from an article from "Multichannel News. The next is an article from GFN.com, The Gay Financial Network.

msg# 524 Date:1/12/2002 9:34:42 PMPost # of 12506

1st Part:

"Other interesting phrases.... in:http://www.tvinsite.com/multichannelnews/index.asp?layout=story&doc_id=64331&display=breakin...."Skeptics predicted an uphill battle, citing a lack of existing gay programming and the difficulties in launching any new network, especially a new 'mini-pay' network.""But a number of cable-industry insiders, including several former MSO officials, said Viacom’s hurdles include finding a viable financial model for the network, securing enough compelling gay-oriented programming and convincing distributors to carry it."What's this, not a "slam-dunk" for giant Viacom?"

SECOND PART OF POST, A GFN.COM ARTICLE:
More @ GFN
Readers' Forum The O-Files Finance Glossary Site Map About gfn.com Contact gfn.com

MTV, Showtime Plan Gay ChannelJanuary 10, 2002Staff At gfn.com In an announcement released yesterday, MTV Networks and Showtime say they will develop "the first cable channel" specifically aimed at gay and lesbian viewers. The two cable divisions of Viacom (NYSE: VIA) will offer the still unnamed channel to cable and satellite system operators as a lower-cost channel option. In addition to advertising revenue, the estimated $5 to $6 dollars a month consumers would pay for the new channel would guarantee revenue to cover programming costs, say the cable networks. Speaking to The New York Times, Betsy Frank, executive vice president for research for MTV Networks, said the gay channel had the potential to make the same "groundbreaking impact" that the Fox network, the WB network and the Black Entertainment Network had. "We see this as the next step in what a television network is supposed to be," she said. Joan Garry, executive director for the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, or Glaad, said a gay network was an idea just waiting to happen. "The real promise of cable television from its inception was about reaching the under-served, people in rural communities who couldn’t get reception." The gay and lesbian community, says Garry, fits that profile. "The gay community has been historically under-served – this is long overdue." Proposed programming for the new gay network is rumored to include original series, acquired films, imported shows, news and information programs, talk shows, comedy shows and travel shows. Garry, who spent seven years at MTV, followed by another 7 years at Showtime before joining Glaad, thinks the channel will have a real shot. "These networks have brought us "The Real World" and "Queer As Folk," so they know a thing or two about taking risks with ground-breaking and inclusive programming . . . it’s really a perfect match. The proposed channel could begin within a year, according to Gene Falk, senior vice president for the MTV digital media group. The Biggest . . .But Not the FirstWhile Showtime and MTV say they will be the first cable channel specifically aimed at gay and lesbian viewers, their PR would appear to have overlooked a few folks who beat them to the punch. All-gay programming players, like C1TV, Canada’s Pride Vision and the Triangle Television Network, have been broadcasting on cable in one form or another for more than a year. (see "Commercial Closet: First 24-Hour Gay TV Network Debuts in Canada.") Only Pride Vision and Triangle have reached the goal of transmitting 24-hours a day. Still, few people have sampled their gay fare, either because their channel appears on so few cable and satellite providers or due to a small subscription base (Triangle has only 19,000 subscribers all within the U.S.). Even with the money it takes to put together an all-gay channel, the overriding problem for all hopeful gay networks is that cable and satellite providers are already swamped with requests for space on their limited channel capacity. Last month, in an effort to create a place for themselves, Triangle purchased full page ads in national newspapers to "invite Gay TV into your home." In Denver, the ads were also aimed at the people who can make the decision about which channels to carry. AT&T Broadband, the largest cable provider in the nation, and EchoStar, one of two satellite dish networks, are based in the Denver area. Triangle Television founder Frank Olsen said he bought ads in 16 cities "to get the cable companies aware of us." While C1TV, Pride Vision and Triangle struggle to get a foothold in the cable lineup, Showtime and MTV will undoubtedly not encounter the same difficulties with their new venture. As hearty limbs of the Viacom tree, both channels have extraordinary leverage for distribution – and they have the ability to create packages as an incentive to carry their gay channel. For the systems that carry it, Triangle currently charges $9.95 a month for their channel, a fee that may soon seem steep, when undercut by the $5 to $6 a month Showtime and MTV say they plan to charge for their gay-specific channel. Can more than one all-gay channel thrive on cable, offering quality content, attracting advertisers and find cable and satellite outlets to carry them? Probably not. Perhaps the next year will see Viacom looking to the smaller players to capture some of their better fare for their Showtime/MTV venture, maybe even buying up one of the smaller companies, thus eliminating the competition, while scooping up attractive programming at bargain prices. An Advertising Bonanaza for Gay-Friendly Companies?Mark Greenberg, the executive vice president for business development at Showtime told The New York Times, "Like MTV created a new audience that advertisers went out of their way to reach, we think we can do the same thing here. Advertisers began making commercials specifically for MTV. That might happen here, too." Executives from both organizations said that while certain specific commercials might run on the channel, a more likely model would be to have program sponsorships, with the company and its products mentioned only at the beginning and end of programs. The question may be, will mainstream advertisers be lining up to sponsor shows on a major network that is gay 24/7? While many well-known companies already spend money on gay-specific advertising, there will undoubtedly be a rethinking of how to spend on this market, says Mike Wilke, executive director of the Commercial Closet. "Right now they’re spending pocket change because print and online ads are so cheap. TV advertising is obviously much more expensive. To really support a major network will be an education for those interested in the market, as well as an evolution of their spending budget." If the advertisers come, the ultimate question may be: will gay and gay-friendly viewers? Glaad’s Joan Garry offers, "It will be all about the content, at the end of the day. If the content is smart, the channel will have a real shot."

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CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS ANNOUNCED BY TRIANGLE
AAARRRGGGGHHH!! ZIP IT!! SILENCE!! The Business Wire release below shows how generous Triangle was with there information:

Now this is an example of what NOT to do: Let's say you are a buyer who is working with a Realtor and you find THE PERFECT DREAM home to place an offer on. Do you think it would be a grand idea for the Realtor to... let's see, place an ad in the Scottsdale Progress, The Arizona Republic, how about USA Today stating that you are placing a contract on the home located at 6220 E. Dream, Dryheat, Arizona, 85253??
Gosh, why not just pick-up all the Realtor cards that have been left on the kitchen counter by OTHER Realtors who have shown your Dream home to THEIR buyers AND call all those Realtors & inform them that you are in the process of placing a contract on YOUR DREAM home located at 6220 E Dream Dryheat, Arizona, 85253??

AAAARRRRRGGGGHHH!!! SILENCE & A LITTLE MYSTERY PLEASE!!

BIG MISTAKE...

TELEVISION NETWORK FOR NEW DISTRIBUTION OF THE COMPANY'S NATIONAL PROGRAMMINGPalm Springs, CA - (BUSINESS WIRE) -- January 17, 2002 -- Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc. (NQB Pink Sheet - Symbol: QBID). The Triangle Television Network (TTN) has entered into negotiations with AT&T Broadband to carry the Triangle Television Network. TTN, a premium channel, has a vast library of gay and lesbian programming. TTN http://www.qbid.net/ will also be making presentations about its programming to Time Warner Cable, Cox Communications, Adelphia Communications, Comcast and Charter Communications. TTN President Frank Olsen explained that the Company "seeks to make their gay and lesbian programming available through the largest cable carriers and satellite companies immediately. Our goal is to fast track TTN's gay and lesbian programming which has been well received by the market place and is experiencing strong demand for wider accessibility since its September 7th preview."Triangle Television Network's program line up includes gay and lesbian movies, original programming, sporting events, regional programming, series, news and information related to the gay community. TTN produces original programming such as Good Morning Gay America, Gay Court, Gay Bandstand, and Female Husbands which have all experienced strong demand for greater coverage via existing television and media providers.Triangle Television Network has been aggressively seeking placement with cable/satellite companies and media providers. One of TTN's challenges is to respond to the strong product demand to place its network with companies such as AT&T and AOL-Time Warner. Independent consumer surveys demonstrate that the affluent and valuable market for gay and lesbian programming is widely under served. Present negotiations by TTN seeks to convince providers to begin broadcasting the Company's network to this valuable market.Recently Fortune 500 media companies,Viacom, Showtime and MTV announced they have recognized the value of the gay and lesbian market. TTN is very pleased with these recent announcements.The final two weeks in January TTN executives will be previewing the network to the aforementioned cable companies.

AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!! NO WONDER IT TOOK HIM SO LONG TO ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING. NO WONDER DEALS FELL THROUGH OR NEVER MATERIALIZED.
OF COURSE THERE WERE DELAYS!!!

DOES TRIANGLE (Known as TNN, now QTelevision) HAVE NO COMPETITORS WHO WOULD LOVE TO.... TNN & FRANK IN THE BACK OR ELSEWHERE??

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posted June 21, 2004 00:49            

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A big company can possibly release that kind of information. BUT not the little guy.

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posted June 21, 2004 01:00            

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UNBELEIVABLE. Now in an article specifically about more of the competition... Triangle does it again. Do you notice the competitor saying anything about WHO they are dealing with??

THESE TYPES OF EXCITED BLUNDERS MAY BE PART OF THE REASON TRIANGLE WENT SILENT FOR NINE MONTHS, and is now a bit more mysterious with its' PR statements, etc. JUST QUIET ON THE PHONE FRANK!!

More Gay Networks Eye Launch Dates
By Linda Moss
Multichannel News
1/14/2002 3:52:00 PM
Several TV-industry veterans, including an alumnus of Saban Entertainment, plan to launch an ad-supported cable network for gays that would compete with the service Viacom Inc. has planned.
ALT1-TV is slated to debut in the first quarter of next year, and the digital entertainment network will target gay and lesbian viewers, as well as attempting to lure a crossover audience, officials said.
It is being created by MDC Entertainment, co-founders of which include Michael Arlington, a former member of the program-development team at Saban.
The channel’s principals also include veteran producer David Mckillop, who has done projects for Discovery Channel and The History Channel, and Mitchell Galin, who was executive producer for Sci Fi Channel’s Dune: The Miniseries.
Meanwhile, there are mini-pay services targeting gay audiences in the works.
Last week, Showtime Networks Inc. and MTV Networks confirmed that they are developing such a channel, and Palm Springs, Calif.-based Triangle Television Network aims to launch one late next month, priced at $9.95 per month.
For its part, ALT1-TV is closing its first round of financing -- an undisclosed sum that the network will use to make pilots, according to consultant Victor Siegel, who is working with the channel.
The service’s pitch to advertisers is that it will be a cost-effective way to reach gays on television, Siegel said.
While the programming will be aimed at a gay audience, it also seeks to attract a crossover audience. Therefore, the content won’t be so sexually provocative that it will offend a broader viewership, Siegel said.
'It’s a tough challenge,' he added.
For example, he said, Showtime’s edgy Queer as Folk would be too racy for ALT1-TV.
In looking to launch as an ad-supported vehicle, ALT1-TV is also exploring a different business model than the sector’s other players.
'We’re certainly targeting the same audience, but our business plans are quite different,' Siegel said.
Both Triangle and the Viacom gay network will take sponsorships, although their prime revenue stream will be monthly subscriptions.
Triangle executives said they are close to nailing down a deal with AT&T Broadband. And later this month, the company is meeting with Time Warner Cable, Cox Communications Inc., Adelphia Communications Corp., Comcast Corp. and Charter Communications Inc., according to Triangle executive vice president Dick Weiner.
Triangle’s program roster will include movies that have run at gay film festivals, series and original shows such as Good Morning Gay America.

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INTERMISSION & ENTERTAINMENT TIME. I HAVE to show you this. It's a poster sending a message to fellow board members regarding MMs. This poster had some positive posts, negative posts and some funnies like this:

Posted by: reply to: None Date:2/8/2002 9:50:54 PMPost # of 12506
General Orders: 2002-02-08/Operation FwankieAll active duty personnel of the QBID Stockholder's Corp are hereby ordered to form up in the quadrangle at 0600 on Monday for callistentics and battle briefing. Full inspection, battle readiness review, weapons check, and deployment will follow at 0800. H-hour will commence promplt at 0830.Commandant Willy will lead us in a standard Marine frontal assult upon the vile, enemy MFMMMs. All stragglers, whiners and miscreants will be summarily shotThe Battalion Banner will be carried at the head of the charge, with the now infamous "...spinning, sherbet-stained skivvies..." fluttering defiantly in the early morning sun....!!

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THE following six posts have to do with MeTV.com contract & launch, TWC Time Warner pending contract & the lawsuit TWC had against Microsoft for it's media technology. Microsoft with it's media technology was a BIG partner with metv, and was listed on their old website under "partners" with a detailed description of this specific MS media technology.

This is a Triangle Television website update: AND about the 2nd delay now.

None Date:4/1/2002 1:48:48 PMPost # of 12506
News: April 1, 2002 Due (to) continued negotiations with three major cable companies, as well as some technical difficulties with MeTV, we have postponed the launch until negotiations have been completed. We now plan the launch for on or around April 22nd. Previews of the network will be available on MeTV and WSnet in the next few days. For those interested in signing on for MeTV, email us for a sign-up coupon. Frank Olsen will be back in the office tomorrow, Tuesday, April 2nd. Thank you for your continued patience. Tom ZamoraVice President of Operations-ferg

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ANOTHER delay with Metv. This one apparrently with metv troubles. You can see from the poster that they are frustrated with the delays. Some are just downright mean about it!
BUT... as we continue in more posts to come... was this really all Triangle's fault as many posters would have you believe. ???

who wrote msg# 1093 Date:4/19/2002 2:04:05 PMPost # of 12506
charltuna, I'm sure you'll be stunned to hear that we've got yet another delay (about 3 weeks). Here's the text of the e-mail that QBID just sent to shareholders:

April 19, 2002The Triangle Television Network (TTN) has been poised tolaunch the first Gay and Lesbian television network on MeTV,April 22, 2002. Unfortunately, due to the factThat MeTV has postponed their re-launch until May 15, 2002, wewill be unable to launch on our pre-announced date of April22nd. The following information was provided to us by MeTV:"Triangle will be available to MeTV subscribers on the day we re-launch the service to the public, which we expect to be May 15, 2002."- Michael DutcherSenior VP, MeTV

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OOOPS, throwing this website update in just because it's happening at about the same time. Moving into new building! NOT a part of the 6 posts I mentioned above.

Date:5/21/2002 3:57:00 PMPost # of 12506

Also from the TTN Web Site today:http://www.triangletelevisionnetwork.com/news.html

"TRIANGLE TELEVISION MOVING UPEver since it's inception Triangle Multi-Media and the Triangle Television Network has been moving up and up. Now their third move is literally reaching for the sky, or rather the satellites buzzing around up there. TTN is moving into the former Time Warner facility in Palm Springs which was built in 1995. The building is complete with fiber optic cable, state-of-the-art equipment and a dozen dishes uploading programming to the various domestic satellites.It's a fabulous opportunity to go on the air with an exciting mix of Programming especially produced for the gay and lesbian community. As This is being written, the new building is being renovated and Master Control re-wired for the extra new digital equipment. The control room for Triangle's flagship, Good Morning Gay America is being equipped with on-line facilities for webcams so that correspondents and viewers calling in to chat can be seen and heard on the early morning show. TTN staff are already moving into the new building and admiring the view of Mount San Jacinto and the Santa Rosa Mountains from their office windows. TTN has again made the right move and everyone is looking forward to producing GLBT shows that subscribers will want to see...Check here for some pix of Triangle Television's new facility. It's here. It's gay television. It's TTN."

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NOW it gets interesting. This article is from May 29, 2003. BUT, the lawsuit was filed in January 2002 according to this article, about the same time Triangle netogiations and a finally a contract with Metv came about which had MS media technology as a big partner. Also the same period that Triangle was negotiating with Time Warner.

Posted by: emitIn reply to: None Date:5/29/2003 7:24:53 PMPost # of 12506
May 29, 2003 04:06 PM US Eastern Timezone AOL Time Warner and Microsoft Agree to Collaborate on Digital Media Initiatives and Settle Pending LitigationREDMOND, Wash. and NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 29, 2003--Microsoft Corp. (NASDAQ:MSFT) and AOL Time Warner Inc. (NYSE: AOL) today announced an agreement to collaborate on long-term digital media initiatives that will accelerate the adoption of digital content, and to settle the pending litigation between their companies. The two companies have also agreed to a new royalty-free, seven-year license of Microsoft's browsing technology and a variety of steps designed to ensure that their products work better with each other. Under the digital media agreement, the companies will work together on a series of initiatives to support the more rapid deployment of digital media for consumers and support new business models for content owners through digital rights management technology. The companies aim to help develop a successful digital media environment that is secure from piracy, open to all companies across multiple industries, and offers consumers access to broad content in a compelling manner that is easy to use. As part of this agreement, the two companies have entered into a long-term, non-exclusive license agreement allowing AOL Time Warner to use Microsoft's Windows Media 9 Series and future software for creating, distributing and playing back high-quality digital media.The legal settlement resolves the private antitrust lawsuit filed against Microsoft in January, 2002 by AOL Time Warner's America Online, Inc. unit on behalf of its subsidiary, Netscape Communications. As part of the settlement, Microsoft will pay $750 million to AOL Time Warner.In addition, as part of today's announced settlement, Microsoft has agreed to provide AOL Time Warner's AOL online service with a new distribution channel for its software to certain PC users worldwide. Also, the two companies will cooperate to ensure the best possible AOL member experience on current and future Microsoft operating systems, including commitments by Microsoft for technical cooperation and information disclosures."With Microsoft's media technology expertise and AOL Time Warner's content expertise, we believe we can accelerate the adoption of digital media for the Internet and help content providers across the entire industry," said Bill Gates, Microsoft Chairman and Chief Software Architect. "While our companies will continue to compete, I'm pleased that we've been able to resolve our prior dispute and I'm excited about the opportunity to work together collaboratively to make the digital decade a reality."AOL Time Warner's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Dick Parsons said: "We welcome the opportunity to build a more productive relationship with Microsoft. Our agreement to work together on digital media initiatives marks an important step forward in better serving consumers and protecting the interests of all content businesses. We look forward to others in the media and entertainment industries joining together with us to help to advance the digital distribution of content to consumers while maintaining copyright protection."The agreements announced today by the two companies include the following elements igital Media Technology: As part of the companies' agreement on digital rights management, they have established a long-term, non-exclusive license agreement allowing AOL Time Warner to use, if it so chooses, Microsoft's entire Windows Media 9 Series digital media platform, as well as successor Microsoft digital rights management software. This agreement gives AOL Time Warner access to Microsoft's flagship digital media and DRM technologies, which provide an end-to-end solution for high-quality, secure online content distribution. Windows Media addresses the entire value chain from the original digital encoding of content, through playback by a consumer, and offers options for advanced digital rights management that respects content business rules and security. This agreement will help enable AOL Time Warner to expand its distribution of digital content with confidence as its business needs evolve, making it easy and profitable to provide consumers with convenient access to the vast selection of content that AOL Time Warner distributes.Digital Media and Digital Rights Management Initiatives: The two companies have agreed to work together and in collaboration with others to develop solutions to issues that have been slowing the movement of high-quality digital content to consumers, including:-- Increasing the available options for consumers legally to obtain high-quality content;-- Technical protection measures emphasizing interoperability and content rule compliance in a mixed analog-digital environment;-- Seeking areas where they can align on public policies and legal actions that will advance the interests of consumers and the relevant industries; and-- Building consumer awareness around intellectual property and the need to respect copyrighted works.The companies will work to broaden consumer access to high-quality digital content, in such areas as: online music services offering single downloads and/or monthly subscriptions; authorized Internet access to movies; and high-definition video content with more compelling interactive features all on a single optical disc.Microsoft browsing technology and Windows compatibility with AOL service: Microsoft has provided AOL a royalty-free, seven-year license to use Microsoft's Internet Explorer technologies with the AOL client. To optimize the performance of the AOL service on Microsoft's operating systems, the two companies have made several additional commitments. These include a commitment by Microsoft to make available technical information contained in test or "beta" versions of its Windows operating system to AOL at the same time that Microsoft makes them available to other independent software vendors. Microsoft will also ensure that AOL can participate in other programmatic offerings relating to the development of Microsoft's next-generation "Longhorn" version of Windows on the same terms and at the same time as other independent software vendors.Support and Coordination: Microsoft will broaden AOL's Product Support and Services contract to provide dedicated support by Microsoft engineers with full access to Windows source code, to help AOL with compatibility and other engineering efforts. Microsoft will make it possible for an AOL development team to work at Microsoft's Redmond, Wash. facilities. The companies will also establish an Executive Council to meet periodically to resolve support and other issues and to promote the long-term development of a constructive relationship between them.New Distribution Marketing Channel for AOL: Microsoft will provide AOL software discs worldwide to "system builders" - smaller PC manufacturers that obtain their Windows discs from authorized Microsoft distributors.Instant Messenger Interoperability: The two companies have agreed to explore ways to establish interoperability between AOL and MSN Instant Messenger networks in a manner that will protect consumer privacy, security and network performance.AOL Time Warner Executive Vice President Olaf Olafsson said: "With Microsoft and our other partners, we are committed to developing a vibrant, competitive and secure digital media environment. Not only will consumers benefit from having more and easier-to-use digital content available to them, but all of AOL Time Warner's content businesses -- and their industries as a whole -- will be able to take full advantage of the digital platform with a new level of security.""This agreement underscores both companies' deep commitment to developing solutions that expand consumer choice and access to high quality content, and at the same time create new opportunities for content owners and promote innovation," said Will Poole, Microsoft Senior Vice President. "Establishing a vibrant digital content marketplace is a tremendous challenge but not an insurmountable one - and I'm confident that both companies, working together with the rest of industry and consumers, can create a framework for addressing these critical issues."Jonathan Miller, America Online, Inc.'s Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, said: "These agreements are good news for the AOL service, its members and the Internet as a whole. It provides America Online with certainty that, as Microsoft develops new operating systems and platforms, the AOL service will work optimally with them to the benefit of our members worldwide.""With this agreement we are resolving our disagreements about the past and committing ourselves to a new and constructive relationship for the future," said the two companies' General Counsels, Paul Cappuccio of AOL Time Warner and Brad Smith of Microsoft. "We are committed to a sustained and open dialogue that will forge creative solutions that meet the needs of our companies, our industries, and consumers."

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Posted by: skunksyardIn reply to: None
HHmmmmm... look at the time frame here. THE SILENT PERIOD for Triangle Television TTN has ended. Lawsuit article dated May 2003.
AND this is all Triangle (TTN) does...

Date:6/27/2003 10:46:05 AMPost # of 12506
Website update!http://www.triangletelevisionnetwork.comTTN Proudly Announces A 10 Year National Contract WithTime Warner Cable. Target Cities and Launch Dates are currently being reviewed and will be announced soon.Watch For Further Announcements.

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SORRY, the above Hmmmm was my comments. Below my comments was the website update posted by a "skunkyard".

NOW FOR THIS POST. This was an article from biz.yahoo.com...

reply to: None Date:6/30/2003 10:08:37 AMPost # of 12506
Will AOL-Time Warner Help finance the TTN network, I bet they will and here is why. IMO $$$$$$$$$$$$$The AOL Time Warner Opportunity Investment Fund, a unit of the AOL Time Warner Strategy and Investments Group, aims to enhance the growth opportunities of companies through a combination of investment capital and strategic partnerships with AOL Time Warner's business units. The fund invests in businesses that have significant ethnic, gender or other diversity in their senior management or that target under-served markets; that have attractive financial return profiles; and whose operations have a strategic fit with AOL Time Warner's businesses. http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/030630/305395_1.htmlTime Warner to partner with the

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posted June 21, 2004 02:18            

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Originally posted by TickerToo:
SORRY, the above Hmmmm was my comments. Below my comments was the website update posted by a "skunkyard".

NOW FOR THIS POST. This was an article from biz.yahoo.com...

reply to: None Date:6/30/2003 10:08:37 AMPost # of 12506
Will AOL-Time Warner Help finance the TTN network, I bet they will and here is why. IMO $$$$$$$$$$$$$The AOL Time Warner Opportunity Investment Fund, a unit of the AOL Time Warner Strategy and Investments Group, aims to enhance the growth opportunities of companies through a combination of investment capital and strategic partnerships with AOL Time Warner's business units. The fund invests in businesses that have significant ethnic, gender or other diversity in their senior management or that target under-served markets; that have attractive financial return profiles; and whose operations have a strategic fit with AOL Time Warner's businesses. http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/030630/305395_1.htmlTime Warner to partner with the

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Good job Ticker!

"All we have to do is launch!"

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posted June 21, 2004 02:19            

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The following are a series of posts from July 2003 regarding this specific boards calling Time Warner. What did investors do before internet trading became available?
These phone calls must drive Major corporation batty.

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Date:7/3/2003 8:00:42 AMPost # of 12506

03 Jul 2003, 12:10 AM EDT FWIW - time warner ir eventually transfered me to Mark Harrap 203-328-0613 - he says there IS a contract - says there is no plan for a pr and that they are still exploring any continued relationship with tnn.

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Date:7/14/2003 11:01:54 AMPost # of 12506
...you need to do your own dd and not worry about what others post. If you don't like my posts, plain and simple, Charlie...put them on ignore........I spoke with TWC. I verified the carriage agreement. I asked my questions. Many got answered, some Keith couldn't answer.That's my dd Charlie....stop your whining about me. You seem to be more worried about me than your investment and that makes me wonder what your agenda is here?

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Date:7/14/2003 4:09:09 PMPost # of 12506
I can understand every ones total frustration with FRANK, BUT after reading the following it does bring us some HOPE of a Time Warner-TTN connection. therefore YES more Patience is needed here.Sterling V.C." <stervc@l...>wrote:> Willy and All...>> Sometime last week Mark Holmes from AOL/Time Warner IR Department> returned my call. He confirmed that the deal that is being worked> between QBID/TTN and TWC does not have to come through theirsection> as he had previously mentioned. He stated that the press release> would probably get released from the Corporate Communicationssection> of Time Warner Cable (TWC). He also had previously mentioned that> TWC is planning on trading as its own entity and has been preparing> to do so for some time now.>> He said that he does not know anything that is going on with thedeal> and he recommended that I keep talking with QBID/TTN or AOL/Time> Warner/TWC to get further information. Again as I had previously> posted, my AOL/Time Warner/TWC point of contact is Keith Cocozza at> 203-328-0600 or his direct line at 203-328-2039.

AND now that the silent period is over for Triangle TTN and maybe is learning some restraint with PRs, etc... see what the bottom of this post says...

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Date:7/15/2003 3:07:27 PMPost # of 12506
I just talked to Nick at TW Cable....1st of all, this post is for those of you which actually have a working brain...emotions, wants and/or desires do not count.....
#1. We all should STOP calling NICK. He is willing to take our calls BUT he is the WRONG person to talk to. #2. there is a contract between TWC and Triangle which allows there local stations to pick-up TTN #3. There will be a PR released between TWC & TTN stating all this BUT it is being written by TTN and ONLY when they get it written and TWC approves it, it will be released. What does this mean....the PR we are all waiting for is being held up by Triangle!!! If you want to call someone, call Triangle (1-888-594-7723) and get him to do his job!

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posted June 21, 2004 02:28            

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OH YES, and this poster. They "reposted" the website update about TWC contract, but see what the posters comments are below the update. Hmmmm again.... has Frank learned a hard lesson?

May not make the shareholders happy with his silence or wee bit of mystery... but maybe the QBID can actually LAUNCH with something bigger & better this time around!!

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Date:7/21/2003 12:24:42 PMPost # of 12508

This will give us hope...TTN Proudly Announces A 10 Year National Contract WithTime Warner Cable. Target Cities and Launch Dates are currently being reviewed and will be announced soon.Watch For Further Announcements.
BUT, now it is time for Frankie to get those announcements out!!!With all the time leading up to this, one would THINK that TTN was making plans WHICH should have included preparing PRs, or am I expecting to much?

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THIS gives you an idea where some programming is coming from:

PALM SPRINGS, Calif., Oct 26, 1999 (ENTERTAINMENT WIRE) -- EnterTech Media Group and Triangle Multi-Media Limited Inc. (GAAY now known as QBID) today signed an agreement for Triangle Multi-Media Limited Inc. to purchase all media buys for radio and television on all EnterTech Media Group's films distributed throughout America. Bertrand Tavernier's award winning film, "IT ALL STARTS TODAY" will be the first film to be released November/December 1999 with up to eight further features scheduled throughout 2000. The Phase I venture will involve approximately $10,000,000 in advertising. EnterTech Media Group is the new company of producer John Daly, who successfully financed and oversaw the marketing of mega-hits "Terminator," "Platoon" and "The Last Emperor" plus many more cult hit films.

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One last article. What I think is important in this article is where the reporter uses the word "stymied" with regard to Triangle Teleision. This is a Canadian reporter reporting on THEIR Pridevision Network possibly entering the U.S. market. Why not say "abandoned" , "bankrupt", or "defunct"... BECAUSE THAT MUST NOT HAVE BEEN TRUE. HENCE, the word "stymied". Meaning "blocked or thwarted" from the dictionary.

Date:7/19/2003 10:32:16 AMPost # of 12508

Canadian article mentioning TTN....http://www.sovo.com/2003/7-18/news/national/gaychannel.cfm
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Race for first U.S. gay channel continues Canadian offering now available stateside By MIKE FLEMING Plans by three companies to launch the first U.S. gay television network continue in fits and starts, with projects from an entertainment heavyweight and an independent network still on hold as a gay channel in Canada attempts limited distribution here. PrideVision, a gay cable channel based in Canada, announced July 12 that it is now available through Largo Communications, a satellite distributor in Ft. Lauderdale, Fla., that provides access to Canadian satellite company Bell ExpressVu.“We are extremely excited that our Canadian channel is available to audiences in the U.S.A.,” said Bruce Glawson, vice president of Canadian programming for PrideVision.The cost to receive the channel is $5 per month on top of the $16 monthly Canadian satellite fee and the cost of installing and maintaining regular U.S.-based dish service.Programs on PrideVision include repackaged series from other networks as well as original programming and late-night erotica.Officials with PrideVision originally said a U.S. version of its network would be available last fall. In November, they cited stalls in contract deals when the network didn’t materialize.The original plan to convert the concept into a U.S. channel is still on hold, Glawson said.“Although PrideVisionTV may be available on a select few cable systems in the U.S. at an unknown time in the future, this Canada-produced channel is made available now to anyone who wants it via the Canadian satellite service,” he said.After recent reports that media giant Viacom shelved its plans to launch a gay cable network, company officials remain mum on the project.Viacom properties Showtime and MTV announced in January 2002 that they would team up to research the viability of a gay-oriented network. In May 2002, informal advisory panels met in several U.S. cities, including a group in Atlanta.Panel members said a spring 2003 launch date was discussed, and an internal Viacom memo leaked on the Internet in November said the channel had the working name “Outlet.”Viacom officials would not confirm details. When asked for an update last week, the company provided a statement it has circulated since last year.“Due to the current economic climate, the timetable has slowed down for the development of a new network dedicated to programming to the gay and lesbian audience,” according to the statement.The Palm Springs, Calif.-based Triangle Television Network, which experienced multiple delays in its promise to launch a gay network on satellite, remains stymied. TTN, has shown no movement since April 2002. Its Web site lists programming to “watch for” but no start date.TTN executives did not respond to interview requests by press time.

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posted June 21, 2004 03:55            

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MY PERSONAL THOUGHTS?

Frank & company has been trying since at least 1999 to make this happen. Some employees stayed, some left when funds ran low. It is not a multi-million dollar producing company right now. It is keeping rather quiet now compared to 2000 - 2002.

Many of you probably bring in more revenue then most pink sheet & OTCBB companies... many times over. I know that I most certainly couldn't accomplish what Frank & company has.

Things WERE accomplished... but possibly in the wrong manner. The wrong style & with too much excitement rather then calm thinking.

Many deals were in the making in the old days according to the articles and thousands of posts. Maybe those were seen as promises broken by many. But, maybe they were just the hopes & dreams of a company sharing the excitement too soon.

I wondered what happened to the 2001 satellite launch & Metv launch in 2002?

Well now, while I'm in the same line of work, I did leave company "A" and went to company "B". Oh know... some might have said. "OH MY GOD... What happened to Lynda... what went wrong... what did she do?"

In reality, I left them because I am an independant contractor and could pay company "B" about 1/4 what I paid company "A" for fees. Company "A" didn't do a single thing for me, ever. I had my own home office. I gave them mucho $$$ in sales revenue and they didn't know my name.
Company "B" most certainly knows my name... and they smile.

So "OH MY GOD WHAT HAPPENED" really is not that big a deal after all is it? I'm better off & happier. I can't worry about the folks on the sidelines still worrying about WHY I LEFT...

Anyway. Get the point? Hasn't it happened to you?

Know where did I find "dirt" to scare me off from QBID. OH I WILL WATCH THEM, THE NEWS, THE STOCK ON A DAILY BASIS. It's a pinksheet stock, you have to. AND that's what I have to do if I'm going to trade over the internet by my lonesome rather than use a stock broker.

Triangle Television Network (now Q Television & QBID) did "launch" on satellite in 2001. Maybe... there was a contract and it expired & was never renewed due to pricing, financial reasons, incompatability, no warm fuzzies, poor reception, or maybe TTN just wanted to move on to something better. Who knows.

Triangle Television Network supposedy had a contract with WNSFT, another small carrier. It never came to pass. "OH KNOW!!!"

Triangle Television Network DID have a contract with Metv in early 2002. They were listed on the Metv website and in there line-up of programming. Maybe the Metv partnering of Microsoft with their media technology created a "technical difficulty" for TTN regarding negotiations with Time Warner Cable company who smacked a lawsuit on Microsoft in January 2002 and took over a year to resolve.

Or maybe TTN decided to let that Metv contract expire as well for any number of reasons. Maybe TTN wants a better deal.

Who knows. I found no dirt. So until someone has the courage to place legitimate confirmable information which directly pertains to the success or failure of Q Television... I will not listen to inuendos or anger & fear from what did or did not happen 2-3 years ago.

YOU HAVE TO LET YOUR BRAIN & GUT GUIDE YOU... IT'S YOUR MONEY. YOU DO WHAT IS IN YOUR BEST INTEREST. I only have 160,000 shares of stock in this company.

I have much work to do this week. I'll catch-up with you all early AZ morning or late AZ night. Best wishes to all... GOODNIGHT!!!

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posted July 01, 2004 18:22            

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BexterBassie made me realize it is important to bump this thread up!

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posted July 01, 2004 19:04            

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Oh, the devil didn't make you do it?

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Back to the top

wow my eyes are crossed this thread could be a bestseller

Thanks 1 Bigtip

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posted July 08, 2004 00:24            

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Are we entering that quiet period again where they decide not tell the shareholders that they didn't launch, and that all promises went unfufilled?

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posted July 08, 2004 00:50            

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thats why I got out... I hope that is not the case... but it seems a little shady for me to have stayed in it until there is reason to buy again.. that said though.. I hope it runs like to the sky!!! GLTA

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thats why I got out... I hope that is not the case... but it seems a little shady for me to have stayed in it until there is reason to buy again.. that said though.. I hope it runs like to the sky!!! GLTA

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Diesel!

I stayed with 200,000 shares. Not sure why with Franks absence. I too will not add until they give me a reason. & I too hope this thing runs to the sky!

"All they had to do is launch!"

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