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thejohndavid Member |
posted January 30, 2004 12:56
These guys have no chance at crashing in my opinion. They are a couple of bucks, but if you take a look at the chart and this PR I think you might agree that they are destined to be one of these 40-50 dollar stocks in the long run. Any opinions welcome. 2004-01-20 09:35:35
Health/Medical Writers / Business Editors BEIJING--(BUSINESS WIRE)--SNVBF-- Sinovac Biotech Ltd. ("Sinovac") (OTCBB:SNVBF) is pleased to announce that it has been approved to commence clinical trials of a vaccine for SARS by SFDA (Chinese FDA). Animal tests on safety, efficacy and immunogenicity have been completed successfully. Immune response was invoked by the vaccine in all animal models. No immune enhancement was observed in any of the pre-clinical testing. Clinical protocols have been developed with the cooperation of the World Health Organization, Chinese FDA, China CDC and the China Medical Academic College. Phase I human clinical trials, testing for safety, are expected to start soon on 30 volunteers. The ultimate aim of the vaccine will be to provoke the body's immune system into action, so that it can destroy the SARS virus if infected. For further information please refer to the Company's filings with the SEC on EDGAR, or refer to Sinovac's website at www.sinovac.com. MANAGEMENT OF SINOVAC WHO TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR ITS CONTENTS HAS PREPARED THIS NEWS RELEASE. THIS NEWS RELEASE MAY INCLUDE FORWARD-LOOKING STATEMENTS WITHIN THE MEANING OF SECTION 27A OF THE UNITED STATES SECURITIES ACT OF 1933, AS AMENDED, AND SECTION 21E OF THE UNITED STATES SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE ACT OF 1934, AS AMENDED, WITH RESPECT TO ACHIEVING CORPORATE OBJECTIVES, DEVELOPING ADDITIONAL PROJECT INTERESTS, SINOVAC'S ANALYSIS OF OPPORTUNITIES IN THE ACQUISITION AND DEVELOPMENT OF VARIOUS PROJECT INTERESTS AND CERTAIN OTHER MATTERS. THESE STATEMENTS ARE MADE UNDER THE "SAFE HARBOR" PROVISIONS OF THE UNITED STATES PRIVATE SECURITIES LITIGATION REFORM ACT OF 1995 AND INVOLVE RISKS AND UNCERTAINTIES WHICH COULD CAUSE ACTUAL RESULTS TO DIFFER MATERIALLY FROM THOSE IN THE FORWARD-LOOKING STATEMENTS CONTAINED HEREIN. THIS NEWS RELEASE SHALL NOT CONSTITUTE AN OFFER TO SELL OR THE SOLICITATION OF AN OFFER TO BUY NOR SHALL THERE BE ANY SALE OF THESE SECURITIES IN ANY JURISDICTION IN WHICH SUCH OFFER, SOLICITATION OR SALE WOULD BE UNLAWFUL PRIOR TO REGISTRATION OR QUALIFICATION UNDER THE SECURITIES LAWS OF ANY SUCH JURISDICTION. KEYWORD: INTERNATIONAL ASIA PACIFIC INDUSTRY KEYWORD: MEDICAL PHARMACEUTICAL BIOTECHNOLOGY SOURCE: Sinovac Biotech Ltd CONTACT INFORMATION: Sinovac Biotech Ltd Graham Taylor, 888-888 8312 or 604-684-5990 Email: info@sinovac.com Website: www.sinovac.com IP: Logged |
Naz Member |
posted January 30, 2004 13:58
I hold a small position from $1.90 on this one myself, wish I had put more into it. When it runs, there isnt much pullback. I believe this company will have a few good runs within a short time period. Here are a few good reads regarding the company that I had found when doing my DD. http://www.smallcapmedia.com/archives/biotech/biotech-november-2003.html http://www.nature.com/nsu/031201/031201-8.html IP: Logged |
glassman Member |
posted January 30, 2004 14:05
http://www.nature.com/nsu/031201/031201-8.html [/B][/QUOTE] If it's in NATURE--it's as close to GOSPEL as possible! [This message has been edited by glassman (edited January 30, 2004).] IP: Logged |
thejohndavid Member |
posted January 30, 2004 14:10
These are my kind of drug dealers baby! lol I'm ridin' this one as far as it will go. My apologies to those that don't like to see something above $0.10 in this forum... I just couldn't let this one slide by everyone. IP: Logged |
Naz Member |
posted January 30, 2004 14:33
http://stockcharts.com/gallery?SNVBF IP: Logged |
thejohndavid Member |
posted January 30, 2004 14:35
Another tid bit: This 6-K/A was filed by SINOVAC BIOTECH LTD yesterday around 3:00pm eastern... The following is an excerpt that I found interesting.
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The Hippo Member |
posted January 30, 2004 14:59
what do you guys think is a good entry point for this stock?? it seems like it may retrace, but im not sure. Little help IP: Logged |
glassman Member |
posted January 30, 2004 15:01
Well-- I am in--now it can go down-- LOL IP: Logged |
thejohndavid Member |
posted January 30, 2004 15:08
I was in a while back at something like $1.90. I sold out because things were slowing down at $2.40 something. I would have stayed in but I needed the dough for a faster mover that week. I have the $$ to play with now and I'm in again. This time at 2.75 believe it or not. I'm sure it could retrace just a bit due to the MACD and RSI but I personally don't care. That will be when I buy in for more shares. These guys are gold either way as far as I can see. I just got done e-mailing the company with a short list of questions. Should get a reply back by Monday I would think. Something to look forward to I'd say. IP: Logged |
glassman Member |
posted January 30, 2004 15:12
i bought on the telephone not on-line-- plan to have this long-- nobbody selling out-- support constant--I don't see significant retracement. IP: Logged |
thejohndavid Member |
posted January 30, 2004 15:21
I personally think that you already saw the retrace. I could be completely wrong though. I think it's seen its low for the week and probably for next week as well. Just an opinion. Time will tell. IP: Logged |
Shushan Member |
posted January 30, 2004 15:36
quote: If it's in NATURE--it's as close to GOSPEL as possible! [This message has been edited by glassman (edited January 30, 2004).][/B][/QUOTE] IP: Logged |
Shushan Member |
posted January 30, 2004 15:44
Oops sorry about the previous blank reply. With regards to the nature article: I do agree that the Sinovac Vaccine looks promising, but keep in mind that using a whole dead strain of virus to elicit an immune response is somewhat antiquated. This may not yield as potent and directed a response as the potential therapy designed by Gambotto's team. Since Gambotto's team is directing an immune response against a modified/attenuated strain of SARS, my money would be on them. This is similar to the Salk/Sabin polio vaccine efficacies...(attenuated vs. heat inactivated..). Time will tell. And then again, it's not the cure that matters right? Only that people have faith in it and the stock rises..hehe IP: Logged |
glassman Member |
posted January 30, 2004 15:56
You sound like my better half...... JOHNDAVID brought us the link to Nature--I was pleased to see a non-financial reference here.Not that scientist don't pump as much as financials--- Note the 51% insider hold ---
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thejohndavid Member |
posted January 30, 2004 16:23
Antiquated or not; Edward Jenner's methods were obscene they were so antiquated... scratching the arms of people not yet infected with Smallpox and rubbing the fluid from a pock of someone who had cowpox! That's one step above bleeding the sickness out of someone it would seem. But it worked and saved half of the world. I narrowly avoided getting vaccinated for Smallpox in September last year (being in the USAF at that time). They are still basically doing the same thing today as Jenner did. Given its more sanitary by leaps and bounds, but its the same thing. My point is that every virus is different. Some like smallpox have what could be considered a close relative like cowpox. In its case, those infected with cowpox are immune to smallpox... This being the first vaccine, the word "vaccine" was assigned to this kind of treatment... "Vacca" meaning Cow. They were treating viruses with completely different viruses. As far as dealing with dead or live stains its kind of a moot point. Viruses do not possess all of the characteristics of life. They are according to Biology, "not living". Some are more complicated that others but in brief, all a virus is, is a little rouge section of DNA floating around in a sack. The sack hits you, and a natural reation occurs with your cells due to the random genetic code of whatever virus it is, causing you to get sick and even die. I believe these guys are on the right track and I'm sure that they are not only persuing one method of research at a time. After all the Chinese Government is on these guys back. And assuming that world pressure outweighs their government's desire for population control, we should be seeing results ASAP. Here are a few links concerning my comments. http://www.jennermuseum.com/ http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Edward+Jenner http://www.uq.edu.au/vdu/KidsVirusesAlive.htm http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=virus+not+alive
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thejohndavid Member |
posted January 30, 2004 16:25
quote: That was Naz that posted the Nature reference. IP: Logged |
glassman Member |
posted January 30, 2004 16:37
Sorry NAZ--I been reading too fast again-- calm down JD-- i don't think the scientific community EVER agrees on anything anyway-- that's why we keep discovering new things-- SARS-- My take on it in specific is that the big players in world health blew it all out of proportion anyway-- not that it isn't scary but the fact that it is scary was an oppurtuniity to hype and practice a new form of anti-terrorrism--get lots pof players to stop bickering and work together--get more money-- IP: Logged |
thejohndavid Member |
posted January 30, 2004 16:40
Oh, I'm not freakin' It just seemed that way I guess Nuttin' but love in here man IP: Logged |
Mac the Knife Member |
posted January 30, 2004 20:52
Shushan, Can you post in English next time. I am just kidding my friend. That is a conversation way over my simple head. LOL. JD, Thanks for bringing this company to our attention. It looks very promising. Now just to find some cashola to throw in it. I am going to go find some, bye. Mac IP: Logged |
glassman Member |
posted January 30, 2004 21:01
Shushan-what's your field? Besides the market i mean. i don't think you will get yelled at again-- will she JD? IP: Logged |
Purl Gurl Member |
posted January 30, 2004 21:50
Hmm, virii. An interesting topic albeit a bit off topic, but not really. True, in the scientific world virii are not However, virii do eat, just not very often! Many virii encapsulate and survive for Inherent problem and benefit of virii is A cure for SARS. Possibly, but I am skeptical If humankind could cure viral infections, Seems a bit late for a SARS "cure" but this Purl Gurl IP: Logged |
glassman Member |
posted January 30, 2004 22:40
One of the reasons I frequently become concerned when I see anthropologists on Nat Geo and Discovery channel opening tombs and examining mummies without taking proper sterile precautions. How do they know why this person passed? IP: Logged |
Nash Member |
posted January 31, 2004 14:14
Glassman made a great point when he mentioned SARS being blown out of preportion. I was I southern ontario for 8 months during high point of the SARS "outbreak". I can tell you, besides limited acess to hospitals and airports covered with health advisories, it was not that big of a deal. SARS only really effected the very weak (old or infant) and was very isolated. Needless to say, the media got a hold of it and had a field day. We are in the resort business and 99% of our guests are American. They did not start voicing concerns over SARS untill they "outbreak" was basically over in Canada, however the U.S media was just beginning to play the SARS card. However, I do agree it is some-what of a threat. Regarless of how dangerous it is, all that really matters to profit in a huge way from SARS is hype. If people are willing to over-react (its clear they are) then a vacine would be huge. Looks like a promising play...thanks for the tip Nash IP: Logged |
thejohndavid Member |
posted February 01, 2004 01:22
Hey Shushan; Wasn't aiming for you to not reply or whatever. Seriously didn't mean to sound hostile at all. Never had yelling in mind while I was typing Promise! Wasn't even upset actually. At least post a reply again to tell me to work on my people skills. I'm interested in what field of study you're in as well. IP: Logged |
stockguyDD Member |
posted February 01, 2004 03:15
johndavid... email me on my listed sn plz IP: Logged |
glassman Member |
posted February 01, 2004 11:59
PLEASE note--shushan--i have read lots of his posts-he's not bashing you --i often write quickly and post thngs that are not clearly polite without realizing it too--especially cuz i'm a lazy typer-LOL also--SARS was/is important in sense of developing fast-reaction strategy for ANY viral epidemic in modern age using new "molecular" techniques--teamwork in this community has been abyssmal in my opinion-- molecular marking /ID/trasngenesis/RNAI/promoter manipulation techniques are the REAL DEAL and the next true dotcom type of investment opportunity--i don't like to compare to dotcom cuz of bubble burst but the bubbles almost always happen anyway--the good news is that it is hard to believe some of the advances even by peers-- this will slow down the craziness of the dotcom-but anybody who follows these fields knows that the future is VERY BRIGHT-----I like SQNM here for starters they are still a good buy IMO. [This message has been edited by glassman (edited February 01, 2004).] IP: Logged |
Purl Gurl Member |
posted February 01, 2004 13:03
Glassman, a link of interest for you. http://www.valleyfever.com/ A relative died from this disease. This is Being of American Indian descent, this is Asians are very susceptable to this disease. Little or no incident of this in colder SNVBF, does sound interesting. I will be
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glassman Member |
posted February 01, 2004 15:15
I await your analysis-- even though i expect you will tell me that i am counting poultry still in embryonic stages--LOL IP: Logged |
thejohndavid Member |
posted February 01, 2004 16:18
Check it out everyone... More good news. You just can't lose with this one right now! An ACQUISITION... That's right a complete acquisition of Tangshan Yian Biological Engineering Co., Ltd.
30 January 2004, 5:11pm ET BEIJING, CHINA--Sinovac Biotech Ltd. ("Sinovac") (NASD OTC-BB: Tangshan Yian operates in the city of Tangshan, People's Republic For further information please refer to the Company's filings MANAGEMENT OF SINOVAC WHO TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR ITS FOR FURTHER INFORMATION PLEASE CONTACT: IP: Logged |
thejohndavid Member |
posted February 01, 2004 19:15
This will no doubt help the cause. I don't think it'll be any problem at all for these guys to break $3.00 even tomorrow. IP: Logged |
thejohndavid Member |
posted February 01, 2004 23:26
More lookers for Monday... http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/003726.html IP: Logged |
glassman Member |
posted February 01, 2004 23:30
I am now watchng for the players in emerging bird flu situation--Another emerging viral problem [This message has been edited by glassman (edited February 02, 2004).] IP: Logged |
thejohndavid Member |
posted February 02, 2004 09:17
Bid and ask are nearly gapping this A.M... with the first order being a buy we will be seing a gap at the bell. IP: Logged |
thejohndavid Member |
posted February 02, 2004 09:52
Gapped up baby! IP: Logged |
thejohndavid Member |
posted February 02, 2004 10:23
Signals are comin' into play. IP: Logged |
thejohndavid Member |
posted February 02, 2004 10:29
Got a 100, 200, and a 500. 500 were put in for ask. No doubt shes gonna move toward the heavens. IP: Logged |
thejohndavid Member |
posted February 02, 2004 10:33
Tryin' to work the bid up on this one right now IP: Logged |
thejohndavid Member |
posted February 02, 2004 10:35
Another 6 trades for the ask! Go SNVBF IP: Logged |
thejohndavid Member |
posted February 02, 2004 12:32
nice slow healthy climb here bid 2.77 ask 2.80 IP: Logged |
glassman Member |
posted February 02, 2004 12:35
you the man--JD call me when it hits 10$--LOL IP: Logged |
thejohndavid Member |
posted February 02, 2004 14:21
I won't be surprised when it does. This is a nice healthy increase. Should easily see the $3.00s this week. If not tomorrow. IP: Logged |
glassman Member |
posted February 02, 2004 14:30
I would be surprised if anyone dared shorting into this one---LOL IP: Logged |
glassman Member |
posted February 03, 2004 10:05
up a nickel this mornig JD looking good-LOL only see support here-- man IP: Logged |
glassman Member |
posted February 04, 2004 09:19
Hey JD where are you --please pass the popcorn-- this one is going to hit three in a couple minutes---you were only a couple minutes off--LOL great call IP: Logged |
Naz Member |
posted February 04, 2004 11:23
up to 3.18, good run going this morning IP: Logged |
glassman Member |
posted February 04, 2004 14:31
quote: now 3.29 and looking long and strong--insider holdings make this bad shortsell-- IP: Logged |
glassman Member |
posted February 04, 2004 14:49
Now even this one is trading above the ask--what is going on? IP: Logged |
glassman Member |
posted February 04, 2004 15:38
quote: I'm seeing trades of low volumes go thru below bid and big # above ASK this smells really bad. IP: Logged |
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