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raybond  - posted
House Republicans Vote To Drop Millions From Food Stamps

By Alan Pyke on September 20, 2013 at 9:24 am


hungrychildHouse Republicans approved nearly $40 billion in cuts to the food stamps program Thursday evening in a tight 217-210 vote. Fifteen Republicans defected to vote “no” on the measure, which is projected to kick millions of people off of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP).

The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities estimates Thursday’s cuts will bump at least 4 million and up to 6 million people out of the program, and even the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office estimates 3.8 million would lose benefits next year with an additional 2.8 million losing them each year on average over the decade.

The bill passed Thursday seeks to pare back food stamp participation by changing eligibility requirements in a few different ways. In addition to adding work requirements modeled on the reforms that helped cripple the efficacy of welfare, the Republican bill ends something called “categorical eligibility” whereby people enrolled in other low-income safety net benefits can skip much of the bureaucracy and paperwork involved in applying for food stamps. While categorical eligibility reduces administrative costs in the program, Republicans argue that it makes federal anti-hunger spending too generous. The program provides $133 per month on average and is already scheduled for a significant cut in November as a stimulus provision expires. Furthermore, constraining eligibility for SNAP will mean some hungry people get hungrier: Nearly half of the country’s 50 million hungry people have pre-tax incomes high enough to make them ineligible for SNAP without categorical eligibility, according to Feeding America, and nearly a third earn more than 185 percent of the federal poverty level income.

The House cuts amount to about 5 percent of the projected ten-year cost of SNAP, which currently serves one in seven Americans as the jobs crisis brought on by the financial crisis continues. Enrollment in SNAP tracks with the health of the economy, as safety net programs are designed to do, but Republicans have repeatedly insisted that there is something untoward about the rapid expansion of the food stamp rolls in the worst economy the country has seen in about eight decades.

SNAP is one of the three most effective anti-poverty programs the government has, keeping 4 million people out of poverty last year alone. The cuts Republicans propose are likely to create greater costs down the road than what they save the government in the near term.

The House and Senate must now reconcile their positions on SNAP, which the top agricultural policymaker in the Senate has warned will be very difficult on the shortened timeline House leaders have created by waiting until mid-September to act on food assistance. The Senate’s farm bill included a $4 billion cut to SNAP, meaning that cuts in some amount are likely should the two chambers manage to strike a deal.
 
a surfer  - posted
the top agricultural policymaker in the Senate has warned.....oh yea...this guy has no hands in anyones pocket...
"The cuts Republicans propose are likely to create greater costs down the road than what they save the government in the near term".

The less dependent people get on government the better!! All these programs will lead to MORE and MORE handouts that will eventually enslave the nation costing much more than money... It starts with an F and ends in M.
 
Pagan  - posted
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
It starts with an F and ends in M.

Ok..so for those of us not smoking the North Cali Green....what starts with F and ends with M?
 
a surfer  - posted
LMAO

FREEDOM!!!
 
Pagan  - posted
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
LMAO

FREEDOM!!!

[Were Up]
 
glassman  - posted
Freedom ain't free. for anybody. this has been going on for the last fifty years at least...

The use of food stamps in commissaries increased 9 percent from 2012, when for the full year $99 million worth of food stamps were redeemed on bases. In addition, the commissaries sold some $31.2 million in goods under the Women, Infants and Children program in 2012 and about $15 million so far this year. The U.S. Department of Agriculture adminsters both WIC and the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, which provides food stamps.

The data do not reveal which military populations use federal assistance to feed themselves and their families. A spokeswoman for the Department of Defense pointed to USDA data from 2011 that found 5,000 food stamp recipients listed their employment status as "active duty military." That represents a five-fold jump from the previous year, when the USDA found 1,000 active-duty service members getting food stamps.

 
glassman  - posted
as to cutting food stamps? the only people really benefitting form food stamps are the people who get to charge more than the food is really worth in a freemarket system...

that would be walmart, kroger , the several dozne middlemen in every commodity trade and the growers...

then the growers will not be able to pay manosanto as much for the overpriced seed and the overpriced chemicals they spray all day on our food... a crop duster just flew over my house for hundred fiftieth time this past week.

all those people will lose money in this....

I'm actually OK with that.... i don't know if the crab fishermen will be able to afford their lost business form cutting food stamps tho... [Wink]
 
glassman  - posted
hmmmm.....i live in one of the most ag-intense areas of the united states and by many claims the most ag-intensive area in the whole world. i can drive over 100 miles north and south on highway 61 (i am one block off 61) the "notorious" Blues Trail the Crossroad where robert johnson supposedly sold his soul is at any one of a dozen of the intersections etc etc...

you can drive from Memphis south to Vickburg 250 miles and see nothing but planted feilds as far as the eye can see east and west of 61. the view is miles each side because the land is flat as an ironing board.... this is the delta, and it is about 200 miles wide by 250 long, it is nothing but crops the whole way.
you want to see the real money being given away thru agri-subsidies? look down here? the 70,000$ to 200,000$ susbsidies mentioned in the article below are "spit in the ocean" compared to what's going on down here...
the worst part is that the subsidies are going to big agri-biz, not the family type farms mentioned below...
big agri-biz uses the susbidies to squeeze out eht family farms and when it does? the peopel who have lived on the land leave and the land here is becoming one big big agri-factory now, it's not even right to call it farms... they use tons of poison on the crops every year to save money- they are killing everything here with it because the owners don't even live here anymore... they use each of the chemicals now for only a couple years and then they switch to different newer stuff because that's how long it takes to prove the stuff they are using is not safe for anybody anything...they stay one step ahead of the regulators this way...


Included among the members of Congress who voted to cut SNAP benefits are these members of Congress who received subsidies through the farm bill in 2012. The only recipient of farm subsidies in 2012 who voted against the benefit cut was Rep. David Valadao (R-Calif.), co-owner with his wife of Triple V Dairy Farm. Figures are from the Environmental Working Group Farm Subsidy Database.

Rep. Robert Aderholt (R-Ala.). His wife, Caroline Aderholt, is a 6.3 percent owner of McDonald Farms according to 2008 ownership records. McDonald Farms received $66,891 in direct payment farm subsidies in 2012. She also personally received a $345 direct payment in 2012.
Rep. Stephen Fincher (R-Tenn.). He and his wife Lynn Fincher are each 50 percent partners in Stephen & Lynn Fincher Farms. They received a $70,574 direct payment farm subsidy in 2012.
Rep. Vicky Hartzler (R-Mo.). A trust named Lowell and Viky Hartzler Family Revocable Trust is listed as a 98 percent owner of Hartzler Farms, which received $697 in direct payment/ACRE and $686 for the Conservation Reserve Program for a total of $1,383 in 2012.
Rep. John Kline (R-Minn.). His wife, Vicky Sheldon Kline, is listed as a 20 percent owner of Sheldon Family Farms LP, which received a $3,025 conservation reserve program payment in 2012. EWG’s estimate of the conservation reserve program payments Ms. Kline received is $605 for 2012.
Rep. Doug LaMalfa (R-Calf.). He and his wife Jill LaMalfa are each 16.67 percent partners (combined share totals 33.33%) of DSL Lamalfa Family Partnership, which received $188,570 in direct payments for 2012.
Rep. Frank Lucas (R-Okla.). His wife Lynda Lucas received $14,584 in disaster payments in 2012.
Rep. Randy Neugebauer (R-Texas). He received a 2012 direct payment of $339.
Rep. Kristi Noem (R- S.D.). She received $1,400 in direct payments in 2012. Through 2008, USDA listed Rep. Noem as a 16.9 percent partner in Racota Valley Ranch.
Rep. Marlin Stutzman (R-Ind.). He received a 2012 direct payment of $6,654.
Rep. Mac Thornberry (R-Texas). He is a one-third owner of Thornberry Brothers, which received a $5,103 direct payment and $4,078 in disaster aid payments in 2012. EWG’s estimate of the farm subsidy benefits Thornberry received is $3,060 in 2012.


this year? i have counted honey bees. i saw TWO... and yes i grow clover in my yard on purpose...

the two bees that i did see were at night in the porch lights and they were dying... it was late April or early May.... haven't seen any since... it's most likely the fungicides they had to use because of the wet spring we had here...
 
glassman  - posted
the good news about the bees being gone? so are the dandelions...
 



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