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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Pagan: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by rounder1: [qb] I over simplified when I stated about "firing my insurance company"...but it is still a true. In fact a lot of major companies, like the one I work for, fire them about every two years just because.... It is a way of getting the best deal for the associates. Some insurance company other than the one we have today is probably already offering the company a "seemingly" better deal than what we have today for consideration the next time the contract comes up. So we will fire our current company and sign up with the new guys for a couple of years...then we will fire them and go with next suitor...which will probably be a company that we have fired in the past....and merry go round just keeps spinning It is not perfect but it does drive something like innovation with regards to benefits offered. Of course over time the insurance companies make out....they have to...and their "competition" is really not all that competitive they may even be in collusion and allowing swapping of corporate customers between themselves....but I digress... Thing is this. Its just more freedom lost. It is infuriating enough already to pick a candidate that you can stand behind. A big reason for that is government is in too many avenues of our lives. I already have to look for a someone that shares my belief on guns, speech, abortion, taxes, economic policy, domestic policy, foreign policy, war, faith,etc.....ad nauseum. And now we are going to add this to the mix. Think about it this way. Guns have been a hot topic on this board here as of late. Lets say that in 30 years the government has substantial control over all health care. Now lets say that there is a pandemic in this country of some sort. For that election cycle health care would be the number one issue....and if it were bad enough...it would be all that lower intelligent voters would care about basing there vote on. Voters would compromise anything to insure the person promising the best healthcare to protect them from the super bug....perhaps to the point voting for someone that will also take their guns or free speech, or whatever. There is just too much potential for this to a Trojan Horse....Heck, I don't believe that it was designed to be one....but you and I both know that it has the potential to be one....and somebody at some point is going to use it for exactly end. paranoia....perhaps. How about this scenario: In 50 years the government controls healthcare. you have areas of the country that are major slums other areas of the country where basic resources are becoming scarce to the point of putting major stress on society. Quick fix: do a controlled release of that biological super bug that military developed. The government can simply say they don't know where it came from...I am gonna drop off that idea right there but let your mind drift through scenarios that could unfold from there...its too much power, its unchecked,and its gonna be too damn tempting for someone or some group. ...and perhaps I am completely wrong, but why risk it? I personally believe that if you invite a wolf to dinner he will come and he will eat. Its a noble goal....but I believe there are some things you don't sacrifice....and it causes some people pain. Its just my ideology that to keep the majority free is worth some experiencing pain. On the surface that sounds like a pretty chitty thing to say, but its the same logic that we use for going into wars... and to those that would say that its not gonna be an encroachment on freedom answer this....If it were not viewed as encroachment on freedom why has it taken our society nearly 250 years to get to a point where approximately half the country will accept it? [/qb][/QUOTE]Well...two things. Like Glass, you need to change the foil in your hat first. Second, who are the "less intelligent voters"? Are those the one's that don't agree with you? What makes you the one to decide who is intelligent as far as voters? Pretty assinine to make a blanket statement like that. But to each his own I guess. I'm sure glass will love your sentiment. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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