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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Relentless.: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by glassman: [qb] i dunno where we'd be. we became an Agricultural superpower due to the fact that the Govt first contracted industry to provide millions of tons of explosives for the war, which gave the Capital needed to build the factories that ended up manufacturing cheap fertilisers when the war was over. without the govt "seeding" the industry? fertilisers would never have become cheap enough to make them commonly available for all producers. the Soviets had a similar program, but they used to harvest the grains wet because they showed more weight. they (bragging)posted hihger prodution levels but failed to properly dry the grain which in turn meant they lost most of it due to rot. we nearly lost the midwest grain belt due to poor farming practices. it was govt intervention at all levels that turned that around. crop rotation, no-till, and fertilisers were all a direct result of govt intervention at basic levels. my perspective is that government is able to take risks where private industry cannot. govt is still just people and cannot be trusted any more or less than any other entity tho. [/qb][/QUOTE]I agree that government can take risks that private companies can not. And I agree government can at times frontier new practices and methods to solve old problems. I do not however agree that private companies or people would not solve these same problems on their own... I work in an industry and for a company that solves problems every day... I watch and help as old problems are annihilated by smart and capable people without the aid of government. Your example about the ole Ruskies is a flawless example of the problems of government. No problem was solved and the only thing gained was a talking point. I would argue that our government is no different in that aim today. I would argue that government today is solving no problems and only creating talking points. I would further more argue that that same government holds me.. and you to the letter of the law without tolerance or mercy while they do nothing but violate the law. I would argue that every government action needs to be scrutinized and compared to the law of this land. Every law on the books needs to be audited against the constitution and then abolished if found in violation. Every government action in the last fifty years needs to be audited against the constitution and the violators be jailed as mercilessly as we the civilians are. This needs to be done in a current to past order to give them something to fear. Every representative needs to hold office with fear. Fear that will keep them honest and us free. No, Glass it is no longer a government simply made up of us common people when they do not live by the laws they impose on us. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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