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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Machiavelli: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by glassman: [qb] wow, Mach what was that you were telling me about two against one? the way i see it? you have a serious problem, you've called me out for being racist on several occasions too.[/qb][/QUOTE]Yes the way you see it: opinion. And if you read my comments you would see i called no one a racist in this thread except Mooman. Afterall why does he keep making threads about hispanics/mexicans? Again why this thread? To make us "aware" he says. Aware about what? That he sees Hispanic supermarkets as threat to his view of the American way of life perhaps? Don't know because he won't answer truthfully or at all about this thread. [QUOTE][qb]fact? we are all racist to some degree or another, and you expressed the most racism in this thread. identifying who is your freind and who is your foe is an evolutionarily induced trait. skin tone would be the first and most recognisable trait before you ever meet a person. it's in our DNA [/qb][/QUOTE]Care to show how i am the most racist on this board? Do i keep making threads about a race or ethnicity over and over and call or imply them as a threat? Skin tone? yes that to me defines if you are white or not. Hispanics for the most part ceased to be white long ago when bloods mixed with natives and blacks. He'll hispanics denotes to me a totally different race and not because of language. Spaniards were the true white people in Latin America til time and blood mixing changed all that. Let me ask you something Glass and forget Gov't or other definitions of race, ethnicity , white etc. I am quite tan in color. If you put me next to someone, let's say irish who most are pretty much pale white. Do you consider me white compared to that irish person? [QUOTE][qb]Mexicans are not a race. Hispnics are NOT a race.[/qb][/QUOTE]Yes, Mexicans are not a race. I never said they were. As for hispanics, who says so? The Gov't? lol We can all agree Asians are a race and in that race there are Koreans, chinese, Japanese, Thai's etc. Now tell me why can't hispanics be considered a race who have different ones like Mexicans, Costa Ricans, Cubans, Colombians etc. Sounds the same don't it? Asians and Hispanics a race while the Japanese, Mexicans etc. are the different ones within that "race". [QUOTE][qb]It denotes the language you were raised to speak.[/qb][/QUOTE]Then I suppose I am full blooded spaniard. Let's ask the spaniards if I am shall we? [QUOTE][qb]now, here's where it gets really stupid. we speak English here. our Constitution is written in English.[/qb][/QUOTE]Yah, this is really stupid because it has nothing to do with the conversation. Language. [QUOTE][qb] so when i go to a store? i like to be able to read what's in my food.[/qb][/QUOTE]Learn the language then. Asian, spanish etc. if you go to those ethnic communities and their supermarkets. Perhaps if americans learned a 2nd language like most of the rest of the world does we wouldn't be considered the most uncultured Western nation. People learn english to accomodate Americans in Latin America as well as in Europe etc. Americans for the most part are arrogant when it comes to language don't you think? But since you brought up language which has nothing to do with the topic I'll quote Wiki on it: " In all, [b]a full 90%[/b] of all Hispanic and Latino Americans [b]speak English,[/b] and at least 78% of all Hispanic and Latino Americans speak Spanish.[79] Spanish is the oldest European language in the United States, [b]spoken uninterruptedly[/b] for four and a half centuries, since the foundation of St. Augustine.[13][14][15][16]" "The usual pattern is monolingual Spanish use among new migrants or older foreign–born Hispanics, [b]complete bilingualism among long–settled immigrants and the children of immigrants, and the sole use of English, or both English and either Spanglish or colloquial Spanish by the third generation and beyond.[/b] [QUOTE][qb]at the very least 75%% of my personal ethnic background was NON_ENGLISH speaking yet i speak English, my kids speak English, so i am not being racist a by expecting everybody else to learn it too. my people learned it.[/qb][/QUOTE]I am sure your peoples' 1st generation didn't learn it or barely spoke it. Later generations of "your people" are the ones who spoke it well. One thing us english speakers think is that english is a easy language to learn. English has so many "exceptions" to language rules it's not even funny. We think asian languages are difficult compared to our own language but in reality other languages are much easier to learn especially spanish. ;) When you read spanish it is spoken as it is written with no exceptions to language rules. [QUOTE][qb]racism? nope, it's about whether we'll speak English or not.[/qb][/QUOTE]I already established this has nothing to do with language. Mooman's motive i mean but his own prejudices. [QUOTE][qb][b]The U.S. Office of Management and Budget currently defines "Hispanic or Latino" as "a person of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin, regardless of race".[/b] and that my paranoid buddy has nothing to do with race. [/qb][/QUOTE]Ah yes and we should take the Gov't's definition of things over the actual people they are talking about own opinions. :rolleyes: As for me being paranoid, i guess were two peas in a pod my equally paranoid buddy. Btw I don't hate anyone because of their race or ethnicity. If i hate someone it's because of their personality. I am an equal opportunity hater. :D [/QB][/QUOTE]
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