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[QUOTE]Originally posted by NaturalResources: [QB] Update for those who are interested (Bdgee?): I am still trying to get my hands on a copy of a book by Francisco Ibarra's scribe, Bathlazar Obregon. Until I can obtain one, my research into the primary source for Frenchman Andre Thevet's 1575 map seems to be at a stand-still. However, my work on this project as a whole has not stopped, it has mearly moved in a different direction. I have spend the bulk of my time organizing material and making sure existing references for that material were complete and accurate. In addition, two family members have offered to help me with both the writing and editing portion and one has even offered to help with the publishing process should my "project" ever reach that stage. This person has published their own book before, so I am confident that should I ever reach that bridge, I will have plenty of help crossing it. I have also spent some time researching historic events that relate to the GSL and surrounding regions, but took place after the offical discovery of the GSL in 1776 by the "Domengiuez and Escalante expedition. In the past I have devoted little attention to this portion of the GSL's history because I am interested in the source of Andre Thevet's 1575 map, which I believe represents an unwritten chapter in the history of the European exploration of the American South-West. As mentioned earlier in this thread, during all of my research on the "Pre-Discovery" (1500-1776) history of the GSL, I found several "official" connections between the natives of the American South-West, and the Aztecs of Mesoamerica. For example, a connection between the Aztec language Nahuatl and the Ute Indian native language has been so well establish that the both are included in what is called the "Uto-Aztecan Languages" group. It is also a well known fact that a major trade route existed between the natives of the American South-West and the Aztecs, and recent studies link Turquoise gemstones found in Aztec artifacts to sites in New Mexico and Nevada. In addition, objects such as Macaw feathers have been found at sites in New Mexico such as Chaco Canyon and Mesa Verde which date back to the early 1300's AD. While the discoveries above have been made by others, I too have found some additional "circumstantial" evidences of a connection between the two. These have been outlined in previous posts in this thread, so I won't repeat them here. Recent research into the "Post-Discovery" time period has revealed some pretty interesting but highly speculative evidence about a possible connection between the Aztecs and the Utes of Utah. While I will not get to much into the specifics because this evidence is still in the process of being verified, I will include links below to two of what I find to be the most interesting pieces of evidence and include a quick summary of my thoughts on each: The story of Freddie Crystal and Montezuma's Gold: http://www.thelifeofadventure.com/montezumas-gold/ What I find the most interesting about the Freddie Crystal story is the location of Kanab, Utah. This town lies along a route that natives would have taken to cross the Grand Canyon, a route which the Spanish were unaware of, and one that the natives would not have shared with the Spanish, especially if it were the "escape route" for Montezuma's treasure... The Lost Rhoades Mines of Utah. http://rhodesfamily.org/lostmine.htm When the Mormons arrived at the Great Salt Lake in the mid 1800's they were penniless. Within 3-4 years they were minting their own gold coins. Where did this vast wealth come from? If you ask the Mormans they will tell you it came from Mormon expeditions to California during the 1849 gold rush, and from the Rhodes Mines in the Unitas Mountians of Utah, the location of which is unknown to modern scholars. If one were to test the unique minerology of the gold coins minted by the Mormans, would it show the gold really came from South or Central America? Also, here is a link to a webpage for someone who apparently has come to the same conclusion regarding the location of Aztlan as I have. http://www.*************/trek/forthetruth/homeland.html **a n g e l f i r e** (no spaces) Enjoy, NR. P.S. I keep getting this feeling that one day I might end up being the next Freddie Crystal.... [/QB][/QUOTE]
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