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[QUOTE]Originally posted by SeekingFreedom: [QB] Wow, where to begin... [b]First the issue had never been about "child proof" and how the fee was paid so get that out of your head.[/b] Actually it might have been. Porn sites HAVE to have some form of age identification\restriction to avoid distribution to minors issues. So, if they found she didn't do enough to stop minors from accessing her material that alone could have caused the suit. [b]Next,it was text not photographic images. They were words.[/b] I think you need to read up a little more on what is termed pornography and obscene material under the legal terminology. [b]All words are protected by 1st Amendment right for Freedom of Speech whether you agree with them or not and whether they disgust you or not.[/b] Sorry to be the one to break this to you, Mach, but, uh, no ALL words aren't protected. That was kind of the point in my linking the wikipedia article on it. The supreme court has ALWAYS held that the 1st amendment in nowhere near absolute. Several exceptions exist and are not protected. If you really think you can say whatever you want, try calling a friend and telling them you want to kill the president. You're body cavity search will follow shortly. Thank Bill for that 'freedom.' [b]"The definition of obscenity differs from culture to culture, between communities within a single culture, and also between individuals within those communities."[/b] Guess I have to keep beating this horse 'cause it still isn't dead enough for you. THE MAJORITY GETS TO SET THE STANDARDS. If enought people consider it obscene material, it is. That's how it gets decided. Not by me, not by you. By the MAJORITY. At least at this moment, the majority consider child rape and torture obscene. Sorry if you don't. [b]Anyways as for the RedRose case, what she wrote were her thoughts & not actions therefor it is protected by the First Amendment much like Hate Speech is protected.[/b] You may want to check that one again. Hate speech walks a fine line. If you just say you hate someone, you're fine. If you incite others to violent action through hate speech, you're not. [b]Had she gone to trial she would of prevailed but unfortunately she suffers from the ability of not going out.[/b] Did you know that Stephen King said that he can't sleep without a night light because his stories have even given him the creeps. I'd be afraid to go out too if I fantasized about torturing children and thought others like that were common in public. [b]Your "Mormon" minions tried this BS in Utah against Pornography .....[/b] and [b]What is OBSCENE is letting a bunch of right wing Christians dictate what is allowed to be written or not written and the hell with Freedom of Speech....[/b] This is why discussion and debate are a dying art, Mach. Why bother debating a point when you can just generalize and make bigoted, myopic comments like these. You claim that 'right wing christians' are the ones that are predjudice while spewing this kind of garbage. Way to take the moral high ground. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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