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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Machiavelli: [QB] Are you f*cking kidding me? .... First the issue had never been about "child proof" and how the fee was paid so get that out of your head. Next,it was text not photographic images. They were words. All words are protected by 1st Amendment right for Freedom of Speech whether you agree with them or not and whether they disgust you or not.Your Bible disgustes me but your colleagues have the right to write such fictional trash that oddly enough depicts incest,murder etc.and read it. Let me remind you of Freedom on Speech: "Freedom of speech is being able to speak freely without censorship" As for Obscenity: "The definition of obscenity differs from culture to culture, between communities within a single culture, and also between individuals within those communities." Your "Mormon" minions tried this BS in Utah against Pornography and lost because the defendants' "Mormon" lawyer oddly enough was able to prove that such material was accepted in the community in which the case was tried in. How did he prove it? He showed that normal everyday Mormons suscribed and/or watched pornography on cable channels: [URL=http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B01EEDA1631F930A15753C1A9669C8B63]http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B01EEDA1631F930A15753C1A9669C8B6 3[/URL] Seems like you Mormons sure like your pornography. :D :rolleyes: Anyways as for the RedRose case, what she wrote were her thoughts & not actions therefor it is protected by the First Amendment much like Hate Speech is protected. This is the first case of obscenity based on text in decades in the U.S. and you know what? Had she gone to trial she would of prevailed but unfortunately she suffers from the ability of not going out. This is nothing more then Big Brother infringing on our right to read what we want. But anyways this case is not a precedent case. A much important case that could set precedent whether pro or con is coming up soon. The name of the case escapes my mind but i read it somewhere. But the Red Rose diaries were "fantasy" stories and if this case had been precedent we would all be in trouble because then stories such as Stephen Kings' IT where a Killer clown kills children or Less than Zeroe by Bret Easton Ellis (a 12 yr old girl is tied to a bed and raped)or books by the Marquis De Sade or a dozen other books if not more would be censored that I am sure the board members could name. I have a right to read such material and people have a right to write it because it should not and is not a crime to write your thoughts unless you had acted upon those thoughts that you wrote. What is OBSCENE is letting a bunch of right wing Christians dictate what is allowed to be written or not written and the hell with Freedom of Speech. Btw perhaps we should ban/censor the Bible with it's depictions of murder, incest etc. based on my definition of obscene and my standards. Hope you see the "light" now. :rolleyes: [/QB][/QUOTE]
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