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[QUOTE]Originally posted by bdgee: [QB] Personal beliefs are fine, so long as it is kept firmly in mind that belief is not knowledge and certainly not knowledge that should precipitate war. Personal beliefs about Iran, absent information that is both specific and available to all, does not amount to justification of claims that that nation is ratcheting up to nuclear war or WW III and justifiably should be punished for threatening the U.S. or any other nation. Putin is NOT the only interested party with "other views" and there are quite well informed and concerned persons with similar "other views" that are not based on personal belief. [URL=http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2007/10/29/un_arms_chief_asks_us_to_soften_iran_talk/]http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2007/10/29/un_arms_chief_asks_us_to_so ften_iran_talk/[/URL] We allowed our personal beliefs (mostly built from lies, along with some badly and propagandized selected data) to permit the Administration to invade a sovereign nation and throw the world into decades at least of danger of ever present war and turmoil in order to eliminate a danger or threat that did not exists except in the "beliefs" of an ultra conservative faction of a political party with an out of date anti-communist bias. It is loosing it fear tactics on the public again! With absolute respect for personal belief, after the invasion of Iraq and subsequent proof that there was no danger there that justified the invasion, we and the World know that our leaders hyped the world into danger that clearly won't be over for many years, I must insist that this nation owes it to the whole World to reach beyond "belief" in any considerations or claims of a need to eliminate or define potential hostilities and danger from any nation. We do not have the credibility for that any longer and that is a position we clearly earned. Each such claim by the Administration further diminishes the creditability of the U.S. Responsibility demands that we understand that "personal belief" is not in any way "proof" and, in view of our encroachment on World peace with the invasion of Iraq, any claims made, however close but short of absolute proof, of [i]immediate[/i] danger from Iran only destroys further the reputation of the U.S. and any hope of reaching peace in the Middle East. It is my personal belief that there are many thousands of people in Iran that hate the U.S. deep in their gut and would watch in glee if we were attacked by anyone (and no doubt would eagarly wish for Iran to build a bomb and deliver it to the U.S.), but I suspect that is also true of Germany and South Africa, and Canada and India and Georgia (the state) and Japan and Egypt and Brazil, and Pennsylvania and China and on and on and on. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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