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unclerudy  - posted
http://townhall.com/columnists/JohnHawkins/2007/04/27/10_differences_between_con servatives_and_liberals

quote:
Conservatives and liberals approach almost every issue with completely different philosophies, underlying assumptions, and methods. That's why it's so hard to find genuine compromise between conservatism and liberalism -- because not only are liberals almost always wrong, their solutions almost always make things worse.

With that in mind, let me take a few moments to explain some of the key differences between liberals and conservative to you.

Bonus) Conservatives believe that judges should act like umpires instead of legislating from the bench. That means that judges should determine whether laws are permissible under the Constitution and settle debates about the meaning of laws, not impose their will based on their ideological leanings. Liberals view judges as a backdoor method of getting unpopular left-leaning legislation passed. They don't want umpires, they want political partisans in black robes who will side with them first and then come up with a rationale to explain it.

10) Conservatives believe that individual Americans have a right to defend themselves and their families with guns and that right cannot be taken away by any method short of a Constitutional Amendment, which conservatives would oppose. Liberals believe by taking arms away from law abiding citizens, they can prevent criminals, who aren't going to abide by gun control laws, from using guns in the commission of crimes.

9) Conservatives believe that we should live in a color blind society where every individual is judged on the content of his character and the merits of his actions. On the other hand, liberals believe that it's ok to discriminate based on race as long as it primarily benefits minority groups.

8) Conservatives are capitalists and believe that entrepreneurs who amass great wealth through their own efforts are good for the country and shouldn't be punished for being successful. Liberals are socialists who view successful business owners as people who cheated the system somehow or got lucky. That's why they don't respect high achievers and see them as little more than piggy banks for their programs.

7) Conservatives believe that abortion ends the life of an innocent child and since we believe that infanticide is wrong, we oppose abortion. Most liberals, despite what they'll tell you, believe that abortion ends the life of an innocent child, but they prefer killing the baby to inconveniencing the mother.

6) Conservatives believe in confronting and defeating enemies of the United States before they can harm American citizens. Liberals believe in using law enforcement measures to deal with terrorism, which means that they feel we should allow terrorists to train, plan, and actually attempt to kill Americans before we try to arrest them -- as if you can just send the police around to pick up a terrorist mastermind hiding in Iran or the wilds of Pakistan.


5) Conservatives, but not necessarily Republicans (which is unfortunate), believe it's vitally important to the future of the country to reduce the size of government, keep taxes low, balance the budget, and get this country out of debt. Liberals, and Democrats for that matter, believe in big government, high taxes, and they have never met a new spending program they didn't like, whether we will have to go into debt to pay for it or not.

4) Conservatives believe that government, by its very nature, tends to be inefficient, incompetent, wasteful, and power hungry. That's why we believe that the government that governs least, governs best. Liberals think that the solution to every problem is another government program. Even when those new programs create new problems, often worse than the ones that were being fixed in the first place, the solution is always....you guessed it, another government program.

3) Conservatives are patriotic, believe that America is a great nation, and are primarily interested in looking out for the good of the country. That's why we believe in "American exceptionalism" and "America first." Liberals are internationalists who are more concerned about what Europeans think of us and staying in the good graces of the corrupt bureaucrats who control the UN than looking out for the best interests of this nation.

2) Conservatives, most of them anyway, believe in God and think that the Constitution has been twisted by liberal judges to illegitimately try to purge Christianity from the public square. We also believe, most of us anyway, that this country has been successful in large part because it is a good, Christian nation and if our country ever turns away from the Lord, it will cease to prosper. Liberals, most of them anyway, are hostile to Christianity. That's why, whether you're talking about a school play at Christmas time, a judge putting the Ten Commandments on the wall of his court, or a store employee saying "Merry Christmas" instead of "Happy Holidays," liberals are dedicated to driving reminders of Christianity from polite society.

1) Conservatives believe in pursuing policies because they're pragmatic and because they work. Liberals believe in pursuing policies because they're "nice" and make them feel good. Whether the policies they're advocating actually work or not is of secondary importance to them.


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NaturalResources  - posted
I'll save Bdgee the trouble...

This is just another of the RNC lies peddled by the likes of Fat Rush the doper, the neo-con propaganda machine, and perpetuated by the backward anti-Constitutional anti-American aims of the rightwing extreme. You are nothing but a goose stepping fascist duck that seeks to undermine the constitution by posting these falsehoods because just like your hero "the decider", you really are that ignorant of facts and reality.

I say gooday Sir.
 
bdgee  - posted
A worthy first effort, NR. In time you could become quite credible.
 
unclerudy  - posted
quote:
Originally posted by NaturalResources:
I'll save Bdgee the trouble...

This is just another of the RNC lies peddled by the likes of Fat Rush the doper and perpetuated by you. You are nothing but a goose stepping fascist duck that seeks to undermine the constitution like your hero "the decider".

Wait! Aren't fascists left wing? And isn't that the opposite of conservative? That just doesn't make any sense. I mean historically fascism has be a socialist movement, which is at odds with what is posted above.
 
cottonjim  - posted
quote:
Originally posted by NaturalResources:
I'll save Bdgee the trouble...

This is just another of the RNC lies peddled by the likes of Fat Rush the doper, the neo-con propaganda machine, and perpetuated by the backward anti-Constitutional anti-American aims of the rightwing extreme. You are nothing but a goose stepping fascist duck that seeks to undermine the constitution by posting these falsehoods because just like your hero "the decider", you really are that ignorant of facts and reality.

I say gooday Sir.

LMAO
 
cottonjim  - posted
quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
A worthy first effort, NR. In time you could become quite credible.

ROTFLMAO
 
unclerudy  - posted
Plus, all of the ad hominem attacks don't answer any of the points brought up by the article. If someone could refute any of them without resorting to any name calling, I would love to hear an intelligent, well thought out response. Until then, I guess that I will have to blindly follow Chimpy McBush Hitler and the deaf dope pusher.
 
jordanreed  - posted
"I would love to hear an intelligent, well thought out response."


ok...here's mine......."hogwash"
 
NaturalResources  - posted
Unclerudy,

I'm guessing you don't visit the Off-Topic forum very often. The comments I made were not at all my opinon on this subject, but rather an attempt to poke fun at one of our resident curmudgeons. Sorry if I've offended you.
 
unclerudy  - posted
No problem. I should have read what your sig said, and thought about it for a moment.

I have been in here a few times, but all I have ever gotten was ad hominem attacks.
 
unclerudy  - posted
quote:
Originally posted by jordanreed:
"I would love to hear an intelligent, well thought out response."


ok...here's mine......."hogwash"

Is this supposed to be a joke, or is this how people actually think? Because if this is what jordanreed and the others in this forum consider an intelligent, well thought out response, I weep for the future of humanity.
 
rimasco  - posted
LMAO! Great impersonation NR.....you might have to change your "RNC parrot" quote
 
cottonjim  - posted
Heres is what I think: The problem with any editorial like the one above is that it puts a label on everybody. It is taking the population and dividing it up into 2 boxes, one stamped liberal and one stamped conservative. It's political racism, thats all it is and the general population has already determined that racism is bad so why is this OK. This is all my opinion and thats all I got to say about that.
 
cottonjim  - posted
Politism, Coined it [Wink]
 
glassman  - posted
OK uncle rudy but you asked for it:

9) Conservatives believe that we should live in a color blind society where every individual is judged on the content of his character and the merits of his actions. On the other hand, liberals believe that it's ok to discriminate based on race as long as it primarily benefits minority groups.

crapola... i live in Mississippi... there's no color blindness in this arguably most conservative of states....

i invite you to visit the site of the new conservative southern movement:
http://www.cofcc.org/

this one is even funny:

8) Conservatives are capitalists and believe that entrepreneurs who amass great wealth through their own efforts are good for the country and shouldn't be punished for being successful. Liberals are socialists who view successful business owners as people who cheated the system somehow or got lucky. That's why they don't respect high achievers and see them as little more than piggy banks for their programs.


the FACT is that Blue states pay more into the federal tax base, while Red states take more out of it.... that's just the facts....
in other words? liberal basically make more money the "honest way" than conservatives do....


i live in a Red state so i'm not complaining....


this one is just crazy man:
3) Conservatives are patriotic, believe that America is a great nation, and are primarily interested in looking out for the good of the country. That's why we believe in "American exceptionalism" and "America first." Liberals are internationalists who are more concerned about what Europeans think of us and staying in the good graces of the corrupt bureaucrats who control the UN than looking out for the best interests of this nation.[/b]


the GOP conservative led US Senata and Congress didn't do anything to protect the working class of America in the last ten years... they went right on sending as many jobs overseas as they possibly could...

mostly? the corruption in the UN is only matched by the corruptiuon of th eUS politicians...
 
bond006  - posted
10) Conservatives believe that individual Americans have a right to defend themselves and their families with guns and that right cannot be taken away by any method short of a Constitutional Amendment, which conservatives would oppose. Liberals believe by taking arms away from law abiding citizens, they can prevent criminals, who aren't going to abide by gun control laws, from using guns in the commission of crimes.

this is pure stupidity most people I have known don't want to take guns away from law abiding citizens they want to make it so crazies and criminals don't get them
 
bdgee  - posted
Just another variety of fear hype from the republicans, bond......

Take a non-issue, blend in a couple or three or more lies, repeat them over and over and you have the standard republican political issue.
 
andrew  - posted
Hey cottonjim....I also like cake.
 



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