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With Bush moving so far to the left, the table now being set to hand the White House back to the Democrats. Many of those supporting Bush have been turned off by the Republican party and will most likely not vote or will vote independent.
We will probably see Gore and Hillary in the primaries fighting it out and one of them will probably be the next PREZ! Oh God help America!!
4Art
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Bush is moving to the left?
bdgee
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What a nutty notion about our President dufus....
BigJohn
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I'd like to see Ted Turner run.
bdgee
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I think Turner thinks, so that removes him from being willing.
cyclekitty1
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I nominate Elizabeth Dole
Peaser01
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George Pataki or Rudy might be looking at the primaries. It makes ya wonder how a republican governor can survive in a state with two democratic senators.
glassman
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i nominate Martha Stewart.....
she's just as "clean" as the rest of them....
Peaser01
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not so, she's actually "paid" for her crime. lol
glassman
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good point.....
too bad i can't second my own nomination
Peaser01
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lol
bdgee
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Yeah, but it was not a rel crime!! Just like Hutchinson said, they didn't have proof of the "real" crime so the resorted to a technicality to keep from admitting they wasted time.
Dustoff101
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I nominate myself, then maybe I could cut through all the red tape and buy a house in Kona HI.
They are getting real testy about they're burial grounds.
glassman
posted Oct. 24, 2005, 8:16PM DOUBLE STANDARD Texas senator who voted to impeach President Clinton on perjury and obstruction of justice now calls such charges 'technicalities.' Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle
BACK in 1999 when the U.S. Senate tried and ultimately acquitted President Bill Clinton after he was impeached by the House, Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas had no doubt about the seriousness of the alleged crime. Clinton stood accused of lying under oath and obstructing the investigation of his relationship with intern Monica Lewinsky. ADVERTISEMENT
"What would we be telling Americans," Hutchison asked, "if the Senate of the United States were to conclude: The president lied under oath as an element of a scheme to obstruct the due process of law, but we chose to look the other way. I cannot make that choice. I cannot look away."
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Yeah, and all the hype that the Party loyal are going on about Ronnie Earle having brought charges against other republicans is really about Hutchison. Seems that, on a pure technicality, Earl requested dropping various corruption and abuse of office charges against Hutchison. The Judge had refused to rule whether or not the evidence collecting made it admissable....just a bit of a technicallity. Something about whether the search was specifically relating to the evidence found in Hutchison's office. So Hutchison avoided the trial.
When is it a technicality?
glassman
posted 10/21/2005 4:06:00 PM Judge sentences Doyle to 10 months in jail
Associated Press
SALEM (AP) — Former State Rep. Dan Doyle, once one of the most influential members of the Oregon Legislature, was sentenced to 10 months in jail Thursday for filing false election campaign finance reports.
The Salem Republican pleaded guilty last month to 11 felony counts of filing false campaign finance reports in the 2002 and 2004 elections.
The state prosecutor said Doyle falsified reports in order to conceal at least $145,000 in payments from campaign funds that he listed as going mostly to campaign vendors but that actually went to himself, his wife and his law firm.
The sentence was handed down by Robert Cannon, a temporary judge on the Marion County Circuit Court, who told Doyle: “You had a unique and privileged position.”
“I couldn’t be more disappointed in this case,” Cannon told Doyle, a 48-year-old lawyer. “This is a blemish on all public officials.”
Doyle’s wife, Victoria, pleaded guilty last month to one count of filing a false campaign report, following her unsuccessful run in 2004 for Marion County clerk. She served 10 days in jail and is on probation for three years.
Addressing the court on Thursday, Doyle said: “What it boils down to is I lied to the public, and I’m taking responsibility for that any way that I can.”
“I’m sorry for what I’ve done to my family, and for what I’ve done to fellow public officials,” he said.
The judge ordered Doyle to report to the sheriff’s office by 5 p.m. Friday to begin serving his term.
State GOP Chairman Vance Day, also a Salem lawyer, attended the court session and said afterward only that, “Good men do bad things.”
“....“What it boils down to is I lied to the public, and I’m taking responsibility for that any way that I can.”.... I’m sorry for what I’ve done to my family, and for what I’ve done to fellow public officials,” he said.
i don't expect hear anything like this from DC
bdgee
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Glass...., be reasonable, Bush explained he talks to God and has to stick to those decisions. Are you suggeting we start questioning God ans Jesus, now?
YellowSubmarine
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Gore is a Bore and The (W)itch is a Whore
A perfect pair of Demoncrat candidates for 2008..!!!
Both freakin' wacko losers................
Maybe "..Hairy BS Kerry.." will play Towel-Boy this time......
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4Art
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Any of the above could only be an improvement.
bond006
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Did I here somebody say that our president Mr. Bush was moving twards the left? left of who Gengis Khan per haps
bond006
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You are right 4Art anybody at this time would be an improvement.In mho buy the time the next election comes around people will be so sick of conservatism Bush style the Republican won't have a majority again for at least 20 years if we can make it that far.Because every day it is looking worse for our position in the world who ever wins this next pres. election no matter who it is will have a mess beyound beliefe to clean up after this guy leaves.You know the old saying when the tide goes out all the garbage is left on the beach, and that will be King Georges legacy
glassman
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the thing is? Bush isn't really a conservative...
i tried to point this out the the right wingers for a long time... they viciously denied it to THEMSELVES....
his precious advisor rove is one of the most adept political prestidigitators ever...
"pay no attention to that man behind the curtain" LOL
he has run one smear campaign after another taking his opponents strong points (Kerry, Nam, swift-boat-liars?) and using it agianst them with lies so outrageous it's hard for ME to comprehend how people are dumb enough to believe them....
we had a Nam Vet versus a damn draft dodger last election, and somehow the slimy sucker made the Nam Vet look bad with his own service, and it was so ridiculous that Kerry didn't even take it seriously till it was too late....( no Kerry warn't no hero, but at least he went IN COUNTRY)
now? the GOP will pay the price ( a very heavy one) for allowing this to go on.... even if there are no enditements? people are finally beginning to accept that Iraq was nothing...not worth the effort, UNLESS we wanted their oil, and the OIL CO's fixed that themselves....
no bridge left unburned seems to me to be the policy of rove and the neo-cons
RiescoDiQui
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Bush is starting to show he has inherited his father's backbone. All three branches of government owned by so-called republicans and seemingly, Bush can't wait to appease democrats at every corner.
4Art
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Bush isn't a conservative in any sense of the word.
OT: RiescoDiQui, weren't you kicked off this forum once?
Dardadog
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Bush isn't anything related to the "word of sense"......unless you are a big business friend of the family.
Ruff!!!!
I'd hate to have to vote for Hillary just 'cause I don't like her.....but I would. Actually I'd vote for Ozzy Osbourne against another Bush family member if it came down to it.
4Art
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Any of the Osbournes would be fine with me!
quote:Originally posted by 4Art: Bush isn't a conservative in any sense of the word.
OT: RiescoDiQui, weren't you kicked off this forum once?
It will take a little more than you and your little QBID cohorts to get rid of me fart. See what they do is PM each other and decide to petition the site moderator to ban any poster who posts anything other than blind faith for their wonderfull QBID. I've been banned five times thus far for no real reason. Surely I will be banned again... I predicted the current price... I predicted the A/S as being close to fifty billion. I scare them... For good reason. Run along little boy... Do you really think I will continue to ignore you forever?
Dardadog
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quote:Originally posted by 4Art: Any of the Osbournes would be fine with me!
Actually, I was banking on the fact that the guy knows how to make money regardless of what avenue he uses. I held about $20,000 worth of shares when it went south, but $12,000 of them were freebies from playing the spikes. I managed to sell all my holdings for about a $3000 profit gain total, but I had envisioned much better returns that's for sure. I never thought he was a saint, just a guy who knew the angles on making bucks. The story doesn't surprise me much at all really. Thanks for the read though.
Ruff!!!!!
bond006
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One thing i can say about conservatives that I have known in the past they are for a level playing field to give everybody a chance, at heart anyway. We do differ greatly on many subjects and that is due to background more than anything else.The conservatives I know are not like Bush kool aide groupies at all they don't think they have suoerior moral values and attack a persons loyalty to country. Are differences are economic ones.Bush on the other hand does not fall into the catagory of a conservative he seems to be more of a soldier in a class war and not an American. That is my call on him.
bond006
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And if you want to hear something else I feel! I don't think he is stable enough to be in his position and that scares me with the power that he has that comes with the office. In ther words I think the man needs help and not power.
glassman
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bush wasn't in power...until the curtain got pulled and the Plame affair began to really cripple this guy, you can say it's cheney or rove if you like, maybe both...
Miers really is bush's own pick and i think it shows what we have "bought" ourselves.....
bdgee
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The Miers nomination is only confirmation that it doesn't require just a whole bunch of savy or smarts to be so intellectually overwhelming to dubya that you are, in his honest opinion, qualified.
4Art
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Do you really think you're anything more than a mosquito?
quote:Originally posted by RiescoDiQui: Run along little boy... Do you really think I will continue to ignore you forever?
RiescoDiQui
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I do know that you didn't pay anything for the QBID shares you hold. I do know they were compensation for a job poorly done. I do know that a class action lawsuit will be brought against QBID and I do know you are jepordizing the owners of any mesage board you blather upon. Your IP address has been logged... all those PM's you send are logged... All those IM's you use to coordinate, have been logged. Perhaps you should run along.
glassman
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ho! wait! the bell hasn't rung yet
OK.... whew ( that was close) now come out swingin'
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