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Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
With new and inreasing revenues . Many are blind to it now as it still sits at .0001 { That will change } . We have had a few days breathing room from the last of a string of positive PR's .....I believe we are do for a series of super positive fact based impressive PR's that will start just prior to the ex-divi date . The big boys at VWKM seem to have a strong new direction and a plan to increase share price and company value .They are now able to seek and sign new affiliates and each one will make it easier to get the next as they grow in new ground breaking programing and show popularity .I also believe we will hear news of a share buy-back { to be the first of several } before year is out . And last ....I think we are in the last feel weeks of ever seeing this stock trade at .0001 or near it .

Interesting Company { With creative edge }

Very good price { & dividend - iceing on the cake }

Extremely attractive potential { Strong revenues ahead }

Very reasonably low risk for long term { high gain ]

PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
for every 10 million in profit the valuation is .013, at 30 billion os.

With revenues over 100 million it is possible to see profit from 1 to 50 million.

I don't know, but I am betting my own money it climbs above .001 before the end of the summer.

GLTA
 
Posted by Max Shrap on :
 
The O/S is like a 50 ton anchor. I may free up some funds to get some before the Divi and a small run, but this thing needs a HUGE buy back. I forget the O/S, isn't it 80 billion or something? This is like SMMW, lots happening, but the structure is a burden.
 
Posted by vinnie1 on :
 
very good point
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Yes ...all good points ....part of the reason we can get in this low ......But as I said .....I believe they must know how good it will be to anounce a buy back of shares ..now that they should have the means to do so . I am betting they do it .....I think we will see stronger PR's now . Revenues stated and acheived in a PR will happen at some point . Others have not taken the chance ....Looks like we are ....And the higher share price will be ours ....I know we are are confused by the still low price ....But if the MM's have jumped in to play their games then I understant it .If it is part of a delution process then I asume funds are merely needed to rap up affilates and related details . If it is simply low due to frightend traiders jumping in { then that is our gain } .

PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS
 
Posted by JimSC on :
 
A/S: 30 Billion shares
O/S: 20 Billion Sahres

Dividend: 15% of shares, Date: 06/01/06

This stock will have great potential - if
you can hold it for 15 years, not for flippers.
It's a great gamble -- you may lose all your
money, or your 200.00 may become 1 million
after 15 years.
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
I can hold it for 15 years....just in time for retirement! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
It won't take 15 years, 15 months maybe.

I still think by Sept 30 it will be above .001
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
What the heck. I'm cancelling my sell order for .0003 Fifteen years it is!

Jo
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dividend.asp?sym_id=VWKM&dDate=06/01/2006&sDateType=rec ord_date

VWKM - Vision Works Media Group, Inc. New Common Stock

Declaration Date: --
Ex Date: 05/30/2006
Record Date: 06/01/2006
Payment Date: 06/15/2006
Dividend Type: Stock Dividend or Split
Dividend Amount: 15% stk
Notes: --
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
How does a 15% increase in O/S of a stock at .0001 with no bid that is dilluted like crazy a good thing? Not bashing, but at this point, wouldn't a "reward to the shareholder" be something like a buyback? Its not like you can sell the extra shares you get anyways.. thoughts?
 
Posted by Otttoman on :
 
I'll gladly take free shares anytime they're offered, especially with a company that has the potential of VWKM. This is definitely not for the flipper looking for a quick 2 bagger, although it shouldn't be hard to do once this start to run. Revenue will soon start coming in, slowly at first, and building steadily as new networks are added. This stock IMO will definitely take off by the end of the year once it begins to run and get more attention. I don't see many other companies at this time at this price with this much potential. It'll take some time to get going and to get rid of all of the day traders and flippers, but once some serious long traders start buying this should have a good run for a couple of years at least, and 0.0001 will be a distant memory never to be seen again. All this IMHO of course. GLTA involved.
 
Posted by BULListic on :
 
All I know is that I have 10 million shares now and I'll have 11.5 million shortly. Even at .0001, that's a 15% increase in market value, a free 15% on the house.
 
Posted by JimSC on :
 
Do you know the impact of VOD? Five years
from now we need only one teacher per
course to do real teaching for the whole nation,
even the whole world that uses English. Other
teachers will still be needed for monitoring
the class rooms and grading assignments. The
VOD system will be equipped in each class
room. The students can even study from home
if they demonstrate motivated. We can
improve the quality of education at a fraction
of the cost. Yes, VOD will be an essential tool
for education five years from now. VWKM will
play an important role in education and
entertainment. As a share holder of VWKM,
you will be proud to own a piece of this
great pie.
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
LISTEN to what otto & jim just said ......They hit it right on the mark . And I think we have positioned ourselves in a sleeping giant before it takes off ....And I do think that at some point they will make an announcement to buy back shares . I need more shares [Roll Eyes] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
LISTEN to what otto & jim just said ......They hit it right on the mark . And I think we have positioned ourselves in a sleeping giant before it takes off ....And I do think that at some point they will make an announcement to buy back shares . I need more shares [Roll Eyes] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JimSC:
Do you know the impact of VOD? Five years
from now we need only one teacher per
course to do real teaching for the whole nation,
even the whole world that uses English.

Hi JimSC,
Do you have any links saved for studies on this, someplace for me to get smart on who's hopeful? Educational shifts - hobby interest of mine. TIA
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Some VOD examples

http://www.unitedstreaming.com/

http://www.cs.tut.fi/tlt/stuff/vod/VoDOverview/vod1.html

http://www.internetnews.com/index.php/4651
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
A good article on numbers.

http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/1276811

If vwkm reaches its target of 18 million cable subscribers you are looking at 500k to 1 million vod customers. Maybe more. The numbers run about 10:1, 18 million cable = 1.8 million vod users.

If each uses 1 per week then 1.8mil x 52 = 93.6 million downloads.

Some are charging by the minute. Say a movie is 120 minutes X .08 = 9.60 per program.

I guess some would be more or less.

It adds up.
 
Posted by Skyman on :
 
Ahhh, excuse me, but does the company still exist?
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
Thanks Johnny, exactly what I was looking for.

Skyman, please elaborate...
 
Posted by Skyman on :
 
Well, folks are leaving, stock is flat as a pancake. I agree that all the important agreements seem to be in place, but the stock isn't showing any life.
 
Posted by Skyman on :
 
Pink sheets still shows Astrom as President. Is there a CEO? How do we there is anyone home?
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
volume is back today,

116 million so far.

Maybe someone knows something. Total lull yesturday then back strong this morning. Maybe they were waiting on news.
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
lol

oh, ok skyman.

pancake stocks, my favorite.

I can't answer your questions with specifics, haven't followed up on initial dd. Johnny and a few others did number crunching on previous pages, some added more info. Originally saw this as getting set for a summer run, then a lot of interest popped up, and looked like it might take off earlier. Now, I'm back to seeing this as a summer run that may not stop once it gets started.

The growth is tremendous. Next comes money. I like that, too.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
They haven't disclosed when it will actually start yet. They may already have some revenues from the satellite kickoff from some sources but not sure.

I'm not looking for this to pop until the actual cable rollout and VOD roll out.

Numbers?

Revenues could be from 38 million to 200 million from what the press releases say.

If from those revenues they make 5 million in profit.


5 million / 30 billion X 20 pe = .003

1 million in profit = .0006

20 million in profit = .012

40 million = .024

That is with a conservative 20 pe and no share buy back.

After this has rolled out it will move. How far is anyone's guess.

Profitability is the key, if you can maintain your core business in a profitable way, then you can diversify and add other businesses. Other products.

As a company it has a ways to go, as an investment with all the as good a shot as any other start up company.


Remember there is a difference between a start up pinky and one that came off the bigger boards because they were in decline. As a start up their core business is unproven, as one in decline the core business is failing.

I see start up companies as a better risk than one in decline that has accumulated debt and used up financing.

BIGN and VWKM are both start ups that have a chance of doing well.

Do your own DD though and prove the company to yourself.

 
Posted by logical buyer on :
 
JimSC, with 20 billion shares in the float, don't you think there is a chance that they will reduce that by doing a reverse split? If that happens, people holding shares now will be stuck like qbid. I am only using Qbid as an example because of their rumored 10,000 to 1 reverse split. I like VWKM's system very much, but I hesitate to add anymore shares because of the possibility of a reverse split. I bought a couple million at .0001 and .0002 a couple of months ago when it had big volume for a couple of weeks and some buzz around their Atlanta start up.
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
They have repeatedly announced no R/S.
 
Posted by logical buyer on :
 
I know, but so many companies don't stick to their word. Once a company gets over 7-8 billion shares in their float, I take it with a grain of salt.


quote:
Originally posted by fishfarmer:
They have repeatedly announced no R/S.


 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
There are diferent ways to handle a high OS.

Leave as is

Reverse Split

Buy back

Merger

Acquisition

The thing to keep in mind is that the market cap is about 1/50th of expected revenues.

With the market cap so undervalued you can still see a 20-50 X return from where we are.

When a stock is overvalued a reverse split is the best solution, it lets it fall to reasonable levels after the split, when a stock is undervalued a buyback is the best deal for the company.
 
Posted by Max Shrap on :
 
Why doesn't ScotTrade allow buys of VWKM online?
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
Well guys I see it this way, the only way we could is up from here, cant go any lower. Think it's a safe bet and with summer months coming this stock will fly. Maybe $3.00? I am thinking this stock will do well over time if management is serious. If USXP can run, then V W K M can certainly put a run on.a
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by shall143:
Well guys I see it this way, the only way we could is up from here, cant go any lower. Think it's a safe bet and with summer months coming this stock will fly. Maybe $3.00? I am thinking this stock will do well over time if management is serious. If USXP can run, then V W K M can certainly put a run on.a

Thats a pretty bold statement. THat kind of PPS would make quite a few millionaires, and would take 50 years to achieve. maybe .03 is a more realistic goal.
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
OK shock me already.
6 mil shares. Good enough for now.
 
Posted by ballyman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by shall143:
Well guys I see it this way, the only way we could is up from here, cant go any lower. Think it's a safe bet and with summer months coming this stock will fly. Maybe $3.00? I am thinking this stock will do well over time if management is serious. If USXP can run, then V W K M can certainly put a run on.a

Ok now it can't go any lower. So how do you buy at zero???? Unless the price is actually 0.000099
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Well, I guess we are sufficiently shocked.
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Is'nt this interesting ......One little bleep of news could come at any moment .....And after a string of good PR"s you know more are coming as they launch forward with new contracts and affiliates . I think I will buy more shares then have lunch . [Big Grin]
 
Posted by ballyman on :
 
Since my streamer indicates a pps of -0.0001 does that mean they have to pay me to buy? LOL
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
I know I should not be greedy .....But my god this price is incredible ......OK...you talked me into it ....I'm buying another 5 mil ...

Thanks MATO .... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
L2s anyone?
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
Could another company use VWKM as a reverse merger? Is this a shell or what? I was thinking to myself why would management keep anouncing there will be no RS. Maybe there's something we dont know that they know and is promising. This stock needs to go to atleast .0002 to give us some hope of a movement. May need a dynamite to help get this stock going. I will continue to hold my millions of shares untill this piglet squeel.
 
Posted by Stockpile on :
 
I'm already shocked! With the topic that is...[8D]
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Well ..I think we are all positioned good here .Now we just sit and let time do the rest . I'm very interested to see how far it will go .....Hope to get a few more shares before it starts to move ...
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Last day for the divvy coming up.

They may wait til the divvy to give news and launch.

BIGN gave their big news around the divvy to maximize interest and volume.

Hopefully that is what VWKM does.
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
Volume is brewing on this little stock, someday it will move, lets hope it moves or rally within the next 60 days.
 
Posted by Skyman on :
 
Ah no you don't. Let's make it 59 days.
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
Well, I am all in with 60MM shares, no sense in selling now since I cant sell it for more than .0001. Lets ride the freight train to the promise land.
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
So is tuesday or wednesday the last day to buy and get divi's ? [Razz]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
VWKM - Vision Works Media Group, Inc. New Common Stock

Declaration Date:

Ex Date: 05/30/2006

Record Date: 06/01/2006

Payment Date: 06/15/2006

Dividend Type:

Stock Dividend or Split Dividend Amount:

15% stk
Notes:
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
I sent a letter to the SEC a few mins. asking them to look into the company business practices because I believe they are not doing ligitimate business. I await their response. Told them to do a thorough investigation of them, in this business and past business they have operated and traded publicly.
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Why would you send that letter to the sec ..What do you think they have done wrong ...?Hope you did not screw things up for the rest of us who have recently bought in this company ....The news is great . they direction is great ....And if it is all true then the revenue stream will be awesome .

Tell the sec you were drunk and did not mean to send it .
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Intimatrader:
Why would you send that letter to the sec ..What do you think they have done wrong ...?Hope you did not screw things up for the rest of us who have recently bought in this company ....The news is great . they direction is great ....And if it is all true then the revenue stream will be awesome .

Tell the sec you were drunk and did not mean to send it .

First off there is no proof at this point that it is a scam. Yet, you must admit that it has all the earmarks of a Scam. I won't go into detail unless you ask me to. The SEC won't take any action. Look how they sat back and did nothing during this whole PAIV fiasco. VWKM will never be investigated. They will probably change their name and start all over again. Of course I don't think they are done here yet. Look for more PR's promising the moon followed by further dilution and another increase in the A/S. They never have to do a Reverse Split as long as they can continue to issue new shares. They have already set the stage for that with the PR stating they needed a presence in Hollywood and that will cost money, that they apparently don't have.
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
UM electrified, a cha cha.
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
But it seems they will have money .. as of april 1st the satleite went enabling their programimg to tbe accessable to afifiliates ...The signing up of new clients is growing and it makes sense that it will continue to grow ..each one increasing revenue . If the programming is in any part a hit then this can really increase the revenue of the company as more and more affiliates with jump on board .And since the first affiliates have signed already then the revenue has started and should be coming in at any time now ....That probably will be stated in one of the next PR"S ....

PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS [Cool]
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
There's no proof of it being a scam, but sure raise eyebrows around here. Why would they keep increasing shares to a .0001 stock and offering dividends at these levels? Seems like a desperate move to entice investors to stick around or lure more into the dark hole. Something is suspect about VWKM.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Don't hold your breath. If revenues were anywhere close to the projections we would have already heard about them. Keep in mind that the projections were made based on the total possible subscribers of the Cable/satelite companies. It's a very tall order to get 100% penetration into this areas. Having been in sales most of my many adult years, 5-10% would be a great achievement. Having reread the PR's this is the statement that is central to each PR's and tells us the most. "This newest affiliate, cable-company, is part of New Screen TV's targeted net subscriber base of 18 million households and $1.8 million in monthly revenues by year end." . There is no way that they will get every household to subscribe. If they are very lucky according to long established sales calculations 25% closing ratio would be phenomenal. So we are looking closer to, for arguements sake, $450,000 per month or $5.4 million annually. Now that is gross revenue. Expenses will come out of that like rent, utilities, payroll, royalities to the film makers and lead actors if they are part of SAG, affilate fees for carrying the signal(they don't do that for free) taxes etc. Being very very conservative let's say that will total 50%. We are now left with $2.9 million for the year divide that by the current O/S including the dividend of 15% approx 24 Billion shares and we get right around .0001. Now this is very conservative.

Anyone looking at fundamentals to justify a rise in PPS should think again. The only thing that will make this run is a string of outlandish PR's claiming they have signed every current subscriber in America. You can argue with my figures but in the end I think I've given a much more solid view than VWKM's estimate of signing every current subscriber of the affliates.

Just some food for thought.
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Well to be more accurate .......You can't do the exact math on this ....Becouse the number of affiliates grows every year ...becouse the number of subscribers in every affilate base grows every month .....and becouse the reasons they choose to give the dividend are not yet known . You assumed a negative reason for the divi ..Yet I believe it is infact a very postive reason that will come to light in forth coming PR's . There are strong financial componets to this company that make it an extremely low risk against remarkably high gain . And I do love to read all I can find about this stock and the company ....And yes ....that includes the positive and the negative things people have to say ...The bottom line is this .....After seeing todays thread and reading your post I am more confidant than ever to be invested in VWKM especially at this time . First thing tuesday I will increase my position and buy 5 million more shares .But ofcouse do your own thinking and reasoning about any stock { and company } to decide weather to buy .

PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS [Cool]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Buy as many shares as you like. I just voiced my opinion. Not trying to tell anyone what to do. Just sharing what I do know about the company. As long as you are happy with what you have read about the company go for it.
 
Posted by Skyman on :
 
Have any of you contacted the company lately? Do they actually have revenues from anything? Are they broadcasting anything? From the PR's it seems like the airwaves are filled with their broadcasts, but then are they or not?
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Warren buffet buys hundreds of millions of dollars worth of stock in a company without sometimes even making a single phone call to the company .

I saw RSHN go from .0004 to over a penny .

I saw USXP go from .0004 to over 4 pennies

Even the mighty Hansons beverage company that I saw go from 18 dollars to almost 200 dollars a share can't match the awesome price gains if you happen to plant yourself in the right sub-penny stocks at the right time .

No doubt about it ....no stocks on the market anywhere can ever seem to come close to the potential gains in the sub-penny stock world .

Pick the right ones at the right time and the risk are incredibly small for the incredibly high potential gains .

I am beginning to see bashers as a constant permanent part of the sub penny threads . It actually does look like some of them might be paid to bash hard on the most popular sites and possibly assist the MM's in destroying the current value and holding down the stock price . Obviously so that some can collectively buy cheap shares only to later let the stock run up and take their big gains . Eventually some of these stocks move up in share price based on their own merrits despite being heavily shorted . And continue a gradual strong climp upward in share price .

Bashing will continue on the following stocks ....but the upward share price after shorting is done is inevitable .

PAIM
VWKM
CWFG/JMCP
AWBV
SMMW

There are two other stocks with incredible potential to hit a dollar and beyond in share price ...But they must first be done with the huge numbers of daytraders in them countering the large number of investors waiting to buy in ...USXP & RSHN .

There is one other stock of interest here ..CSJJ. They are being bashed and trassed but without logic or facts .Bashers seem to be assuming things about this company rather than admit they SIMPLY DON"T KNOW . It seems unsual for a company headed in a new direction with a share price of .0001 to anounce a 150 for 1 forward split ...That is unless ....this action enables them to increase shares to aquire another company , attempt a move to the bullitin boards , increase company value and result in higher share price .....and do this all without needing or stating a reverse split .

That seems a lot more likely here ....And that means .....People buying in now at .0001 and .0002 or even .0003 could be extremely well rewarded . Hope I am right here ...And I think I am . But do your own DD and think well on any stock you might buy .

Remember ...Many people like to say all penny stocks are duds and scams ...THIS CAN NOT POSSIBLY BE TRUE . Becouse the truth is ..That MANY are scams ..NOT all of them . The reality is that the government would not allow pinks to assist if 100 % of them were frauds .

Don't be cought up in the emotions of bashers and idiots and never cunfuse them with inteligent people descussing the negatives against the positives on any given stock .

Watch the stocks I have mentioned here get bashed { over & over } . Then watch as the bashers hide under rocks as these stocks move out of .0001 levels and some increase dramatically . Don't wait a day or two and bash the stock becouse it has not moved .....Give it a little realistic time ......That said ,,,I will continue to study and research other stocks for the next low priced high potential gainers .

PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Intimatrader:
Well to be more accurate .......You can't do the exact math on this ....Becouse the number of affiliates grows every year ...becouse the number of subscribers in every affilate base grows every month .....and becouse the reasons they choose to give the dividend are not yet known . You assumed a negative reason for the divi ..Yet I believe it is infact a very postive reason that will come to light in forth coming PR's . There are strong financial componets to this company that make it an extremely low risk against remarkably high gain . And I do love to read all I can find about this stock and the company ....And yes ....that includes the positive and the negative things people have to say ...The bottom line is this .....After seeing todays thread and reading your post I am more confidant than ever to be invested in VWKM especially at this time . First thing tuesday I will increase my position and buy 5 million more shares .But ofcouse do your own thinking and reasoning about any stock { and company } to decide weather to buy .

PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS [Cool]

quote:
Well to be more accurate .......You can't do the exact math on this
That seems contradictory... anyway, for an "investment" seems like "exact math" would be highly advantageous...

quote:
There are strong financial componets to this company that make it an extremely low risk against remarkably high gain . And I do love to read all I can find about this stock and the company
can you post or provide link to your discussion of the "strong financial components" you've gleaned from reading all you can find?

Thanks...
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Simple and I could do that ..but I don't have the time to post links ...Besides ..we all read the same information . warren Buffet says that in all his books ...That we all get the same information ....But people can understand it incorrectly or better than others .

For example .....I have been saying for weeks that usxp wants to move up ..that is is one of the most heavily watched stocks right now . And for good reason ..it has far more value than most here are placing on it . I am speaking of future earnings and not current financials . There are big investors waiting to put big buys in for this stock ....But why would they do that when all can see it is being heavily traded for lightning quick short term gain { Investors want the day trading to subside } . And at some point it will ....That happening and the impacting news that many bashers say will never happen will probably take place in the next few months .Now say months ....And that clearly is to much for some to handel .....But usxp is going have major increases in stock value and it will also have ups and downs before it gets there . Hold this stock and you will see I am right .Or don't hold the stock and you will see I am right . Either way .....Time will show ...that usxp & rshn are going to reach over a dollar in share price { and do it without a reverse split } .

The other example is RSHN. Look at what rshn was ...where they are now ...and what they stand to become .They have not one but two products ..bashing there way into the healthy water and energy drink market . E-water stands to be a major player in the { cleaner, healthier & potential energy boosting water product } market . Rshn's Gensing soda is politically correct at a time when the nation is demanding healthier sodas and energy drinks . There are two many other strong points for me to list here . I need to continue studying several other stocks tonight .

I can't tell you when these two stocks will reach over a dollar { but I can tell you they will reach that price } .

Back to VWKM.....I guess we can agree to disagree .....Becouse the way I see it ....This is a stock one must be invested in right now . If some want to sell their shares ...Go right ahead ...I'll be buying more shares tomorrow when the market opens .

But remember ....bashers and pumpers don't make up my mind .....I reason , I think , I study and I research .

Good luck to us ....we will see what this week brings
[Smile]
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
"but I don't have the time to post links"


oh.

[Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
INTIMIDATOR u seem to have lots of faith in VWKM. I will hold my truck load and see what happens. Maybe this will make me richer or poorer.
Here is a link to ocala's website, try putting in some info for vision works and see what u get from there. www.ocala.com,

www ocala com. dont forget to put in the dots if this site dont allow the link.
Here is a search result for key words "New Screen Television" from the Ocala website,maybe it maybe of help to you, let me know either way.

http://www.ocala.com/apps/pbcs.dll/search?crit=new+screen+television&x=11&y=6
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
let me know if the link is of any help. green in premarket, once they start allowing this puppy to sell at .0001 it's a sign they are raising the bid and the stock is on its way up. Sells going through at .0001 will be a sign of good things coming for this stock. I am feeling more positive about this stock today.

IVGA is my next gem ready to rumble.
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
[Wink]
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
They have sort of gone into silent mode. I do expect volume for the divvy, dont know how much.

People who say this can't move on fundamentals are way off.

It is true the revenue projections of 100-200 million are optimistic, but if they had 1/10th the predicted it gives over 10 million in revenue. But a profit of just 1 million gets this fundamentally off .0001.

1mil/20bil = .00005 X 20pe =.001

For every additional 1 million in profit it would increase by .001.

It can move off.0001 very easily and quickly. If the revenue predictions are halfway close this is going above .005.
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Im in this one bigtime,just waiting for a good run. [Cool]
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Well at least its a nice color.
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Could they be about to buy back shares at .0001 then announce it in a PR ?

Or do they have to announce it first ?

And I think today is last day for divi ....
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
They announce a buyback plan and each quarter disclose how much they bought.

Say they announced a buyback of 20 billion over two years, each quarter they announce the actual number.

http://www.sec.gov/rules/final/33-8335.pdf

There are certain rules and exemptions.
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Best day we've had in a while.
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
she's green today, which led me to believe they are selling now at .0001, look for the ask to bump up to .0002 soon.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Why do you say that?
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Really heating up looks like it will tick today. [Cool]
 
Posted by narbeh on :
 
what was the last day for that share divy? i already had shares in VWKM which i had forgotten about, but never bought more... i just bought more today but im pretty sure its too late... o well, atleast my other batch was before the date
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
volume 451 million which is a good day, but don't see the uptick.

They may wait til after the divvy to let her run on news. Like bign.
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
big volume came through the past 45 mins. Like over 400mm shares traded in just undewr 45 mins. RThat's a good sign, it's showing green on my AmeriTrade ticker as up .0001, first time it has ever shown up .0001 in green. So therefore I think it's a sign that she will uptick if it hasn't already a fraction. Perhaps up .00001.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
The only thing shocking about this stock is that anyone still watches it. It hasn't moved since last August.
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
well, she's sure to move before this year August, will move in a big way. Sit tight and relax, summer is here and it WILL FLY.
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
lAST CALL FOR DIVVY'S IS TOMORROW, BUY ALL U CAN BUY. free 15% increase in value.
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Maybe a gap tomorrow!
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
.0008 yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Buoyahhhhhhh
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Is that for real? Or fat fingers?

Jo
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I'll be ready....
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
What the hell was that!!!
 
Posted by JimSC on :
 
Don't forget all tradings on pinky stocks
are a form of gamble.
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Anyone got L2s on this?
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Well, that was fun while it lasted. LOL!
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
dang she just printed .0008, my heart skipped a beat, but TDameritrade quickly changed it back to .0001. Oh my oh my, thought lift was was about to begin, maybe it's a sign to let us know lift off is imminent.
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
good volume all at the ask. Im looking for a gap tomorrow boys and girls!
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
That was a level of excitement could only equal to me at the peak of my sex drive. Lets rumbleeeeeee. this stock is going to fly real soon. Major volume today. Tomorrow should be very exciting..... run to the bell perhaps?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
You're kidding right?

quote:
Originally posted by fishfarmer:
good volume all at the ask. Im looking for a gap tomorrow boys and girls!


 
Posted by ballyman on :
 
Yahoo is showing up 700% too, but my streamer is holding at HOD of .0001, so what is it??
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
tomorrow is D-Day, time for VWKM to rumbleee. We are ont he brink of greatness, just hold tight, today was interesting. May open up in the AM.
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
here is time and sales, will see the .0008 trades. Can someone decipher that .0008 trade? Seems as if MM's were shifting around inventory.


Time & Sales
Price Size Exch Time
0.0001 3000000 OTO 15:59:54
0.0001 1000000 OTO 15:54:40
0.0001 100 OTO 15:42:49
0.0001 9999901 OTO 15:42:48
0.0001 9999999 OTO 15:42:48
0.0008 9999999 OTO 15:36:25
0.0008 100 OTO 15:36:25
0.0008 9999901 OTO 15:36:25
0.0001 2000000 OTO 15:11:31
0.0001 3000000 OTO 15:06:59
0.0001 3000000 OTO 15:04:29
0.0001 3000000 OTO 15:03:48
0.0001 290000 OTO 14:44:42
0.0001 10000 OTO 14:44:36
0.0001 1000000 OTO 14:41:49
0.0001 3000000 OTO 14:36:14
0.0001 300000 OTO 14:34:57
0.0001 5000000 OTO 13:49:13
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:49:03
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:48:58
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:48:53
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:48:48
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:48:42
0.0001 5000000 OTO 13:48:27
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:48:27
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:48:26
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:48:25
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:48:25
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:48:24
0.0001 2000000 OTO 13:47:55
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
UM ELECTRIFIED, AH CHA CHA. I'm ready for the divy. 900k shares I guess.
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
7.5MM free SHARES FOR ME, YEAHHHHHHH.
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
today is the day VWKM ROCKS!
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Its on sale boys and girls! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
good vol. all in green [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
you guys are nuts. this will close at .0001 the same as it has every day since time began.
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Been real strong yesterday and today. Im not a day trader or flipper Doniboy, this is bottomed, buy now or wait to chase when it runs, and it will most likely run.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Believe me, I would love to see this go up, but This thing trades about a bilion shares a day and never moves in price. What does that tell you?
DILUTION....
 
Posted by vaquero on :
 
LOL!
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
$100 per mil. shares or take your Mother in law out to dinner? [Confused]
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fishfarmer:
$100 per mil. shares or take your Mother in law out to dinner? [Confused]

Mother in law and mistress togeather? [Embarrassed]
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
There's no dilution going on here, the float remains the same as of yesterday at 20BB shares. Was verified by another poster from Investor's hub board on yesterday, he called the TA to see if they were dumping shares and they werent. Shares havent changed. So that's a good sign for us, those are buyers buying up cheap shares before this stock run, but we need alot more buyers for this stock to crawl up, if the buying and volume keeps up, we should start moving up in a week or two. 2 weeks tops before she upticks.
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
Tomorrow should be a great day, cant wait.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Shall143, The Dilution continues what do you call issuing a 15% stock dividend on a stock that trades at .0001. That adds another 3 Billion share to the O/S. There probably won't be any further dilution until after the payment date. Once those 3+Billion shares hit the market the rest of the 10B increase in the A/S will hit the market.
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
Hey, I prefer the 15% divvy being paid while the stock is at .0001 than when it's at .10. We stand a better chance at .0001 to absorb the pain. This stock will take off before the end of june. The month of June should be an exciting month. The fun begins today which is the last day to load up to pocket your FREE shares of the divvys. Lock up and shut up! Enjoy the rocket ride boys and girls.
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
check your PMs shall
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by shall143:
Hey, I prefer the 15% divvy being paid while the stock is at .0001 than when it's at .10. We stand a better chance at .0001 to absorb the pain. This stock will take off before the end of june. The month of June should be an exciting month. The fun begins today which is the last day to load up to pocket your FREE shares of the divvys. Lock up and shut up! Enjoy the rocket ride boys and girls.

The ExDate was 5/30/2006. That was the last date you could buy the stock and qualify for the Divy. Today is the record date. The Transfer Agent will collect the names from the brokers as to who owns the stock. Remember every trade is T-3. Takes 3 days to settle.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Calm before the storm?
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
[Eek!]
time for some movement.
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
Are we rich yet?
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
not unless Rich is your first name, and mines Jim so no.
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
are we up yet? [Mad] [Mad]
 
Posted by Double Diamond on :
 
I'm trying to sell 3 million at 0.0001 - I'm still waiting for someone to catch it.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
I'm awake, if thats what you mean. It would take 100lbs. of TnT to get VWKM up. It is the resident boat anchor in my account, sitting on the bottom holding me back.
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
This stock doesn't draw the appeal that BKMP has. I been with both since they came on the scene and have studied the activity. No brainer.
I have 6 mil shares just in case those 800,000 buck checks start arriving at the company headquarters. Oh yea and my 900k divy. Thats big enough. I'll be glad to fork over the cash for more shares if this shows signs it will come out of it's coma.
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
No way ....Between the three companies

SMMW
BKMP
VWKM

It would have to be VWKM that is the most secure bet for extreme low risk against very probable gain. Short term looks fine but long term looks incredible .

I captured some great gain today and am set up gain even more tomorrow ...I will use 50 % of that to buy VWKM at .0001 or .0002 f it is still at those prices .
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fishfarmer:
Been real strong yesterday and today. Im not a day trader or flipper Doniboy, this is bottomed, buy now or wait to chase when it runs, and it will most likely run.

LOL. Yes I would say No Bid X .0001 is bottom.
 
Posted by JimSC on :
 
At 0.0001, VWKM is the best gamble
among it's class.
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
You're welcome to your opinion, but i'm not intimitraded. Go for it.


quote:
Originally posted by Intimatrader:
No way ....Between the three companies

SMMW
BKMP
VWKM

It would have to be VWKM that is the most secure bet for extreme low risk against very probable gain. Short term looks fine but long term looks incredible .

I captured some great gain today and am set up gain even more tomorrow ...I will use 50 % of that to buy VWKM at .0001 or .0002 f it is still at those prices .


 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
Well, I sure hope to see a run within the next 30 days. Had another stock did a reverse split and then it ran on news about a month after the reverse split.
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Accumilating goys and girls [Big Grin]
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
That would be goys and birls if you want to be technical. [Wink]
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
LMAO [Big Grin]
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
I don't see any proof that these guys have made any kind of progress yet. I don't know what they are being praised about. Have you seen them on TV yet?
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Oh yee of little faith ....I see no proof that they have not.

Think about it .....All pennies get bashed ...And people always assume the worst .

But behold the mighty truth .....Some small companies actually do want to do great and protect the share holder base .

And by the way they are doing things ....They are pointing the MIGHTY THIRD FINGER straight at shorts .

Gotta love that .... [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] : <---share holders
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
When this volcano errupts I sure hope many longs will be around to enjoy the profits. I know I will be here. I have learned to be patient. Too many times in the past I have seen a stock run just after I sell out of my position. Not this time, a man should enjoy his labor and just that I shall do.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Intimatrader:
"Oh yee of little faith ....I see no proof that they have not."

Isn't it the companies responsibility to report to the shareholders? Not the shareholders responsibility to disprove self serving company written PR's.

quote:
"Think about it .....All pennies get bashed ...And people always assume the worst ."

Define bashing. If you mean people doing research and finding the truth and sharing with other shareholders their findings, Guilty as charged. All I know is that everything I have posted is a fact and can be verified. I don't assume anything therefore I do my DD. Assuming that everything written in a PR by the company to be factual and true without any other verification, IMHO is foolhearty.

quote:
"But behold the mighty truth .....Some small companies actually do want to do great and protect the share holder base ."

You are absolutely right about that. Those are the companies that actually answer their phones or at least return phone calls. These companies protect their shareholders by communicating with them not ignoring them. They also don't do buybacks of a few millions shares and then dilute the stock. Remember this stock had an Out Standing share count of under 9B shares in March. By May the O/S had risen to it's current 20+B. Companies protecting their sharesholders don't further dilute the stock and hurt the PPS by disguising this further dilution as a 15% dividend. While increasing the Authorized Shares by 50%


quote:
"And by the way they are doing things ....They are pointing the MIGHTY THIRD FINGER straight at shorts ."

This is laughable. How could anybody make any money shorting a stock that is trading at No Bid by .0001? The real money to be made is by pumping the stock because from this level you can only go up. There are no SHORTS. The dilution by the company is the reason this stock is where it is.

quote:
"Gotta love that .... [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] : <---share holders"


 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
We made this clear before ....


Bashing is not people informatively talking about the positive against negatives of a stock { with facts } .

But rather ...people choosing to assume things they simply don't know ....and trying to push it as facts .

Regarding information to the public ....Well I think most would igree we would all like to see far more information on every company .....But the truth is ...they have the right to put out some info in a time line that they best feel benifits them .And to some degree ...legally place that nformation to coordinate with specific events .

As for " pointing the mighty third finger at shorts " . Well this is obvious...Several companies have now taken a strong direction in curbing future short activity .WVKM has already announced a 15 % dividend that will be straight in the way of shorts . Reading the PR's and talking with the president plus studying and researching the company I can reasonably asert the value of stock is going up . To such a degree that I find it appropiate and advantage to continue buying shares .

You can ASSUME the PR's are a lie ...Or ASSUME that the expected revenue is " pie in the sky numbers " ......or even ASSUME that the dividend is an evil plot against share holders .....

You can even ASSUME that their is no financial determination to bring up the value of the stock ...

The facts are ....that this company does produce and co-produce " on the edge new programing ". That they are pursueing new affiliates and have the legistics to do so on an enormous level since april 1st . That would also indicate that beginning revenues should be stated soon and a string of PR's should follow detailing increasing revenues .

Along with that ....we can begin to see why the decission was made to create the dividend ...as it will be easily supported by the new revenues .....as stock value will increase due to the revenues and force any short activity to deal with the higher stock price and a dividend that must be paid out .

[ June 03, 2006, 14:41: Message edited by: Intimatrader ]
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
Intimitrader, I am beginning to believe in you. I sure hope it works out because I have $10k invested in this stock so far. I will be patient and ride out the storm, I honestly believe we will be getting some PR's soon. Can only go up from here, this is always a dream to buy a stock on the absolute bottom and ride it up. Let's see how far she can go. The sky is the limit. I am excited!!!!!!!!!

GO H E A T !!!
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
What price did you buy ? and when did you buy them ?

And I don't think wally is a basher ...we need all facts descussed when thinking to buy a stock .

If we are all in this then we all hope it does well ..
If we have made the right decission then it will do well .

Let's not get cocky about VWKM...As low as the risk against gain is ....it's still a small risk ...so we need to think smart about a stock and when to get it .

I really think we did that here .I have about as many shares as you ...I will get 5 mil more on monday as I made some gain this week . Since the company has been quiet for several weeks after announcing a dividend I am expecting they are timing the next PR's and if I am correct they will some time in the furture state a share buy back .... have two big reasons for thinking their will be a share buy back ...and I will explain that later if/when they do that .

Good luck and smart thinking to us .... [Cool] [Smile] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Intimatrader,

I understand your views and though I may not agree with them you a have the right to post your views.

I must ask you once again, since you continually bring up the subject of Shorts, how any short can be making money shorting this stock? It defies logic.

You said you have talked to the president of VWKM, are you talking about Mark? How long ago was that. I know many people including myself have been trying to get in touch with him for months now with no success.

Lastly, how can this dividend have any affect on shorters? If I were to short a stock I would certainly have bought back as soon as it hit .0001. If there were any shorters they should have easily covered by now and certainly prior to the dividend. I'm just trying to make any logical sense whatsoever from this portion of your views. It also doesn't make much sense to issue a dividend of 15% if you intend to buyback shares you net nothing from that. Give a 15% dividend and then buy back 15%. I think you get the picture. A company's history also goes a long way to investor interpretation, since VWKM did a buy back and then dumped a massive amount of shares, I and many others who have owned this stock for sometime are very leery. As the old saying goes: "History repeats itself if it's not remembered."

Thanks
GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
All good points ..And yes I talked with mark { briefly } . As for shorts ...I have heard many times now that shorts can carry the price below .0001 and trade there successfully ..From my point of view I don't think anybody here { on all stocks } myself included fully understands how the shorts can operate and do some of the things they do .

And untill I find anyone here that seems to fully understand shorts and what they are doing I will simply take it as ..they are malnipulating stock price . That is the bottom line.




They don't have to be in it as we speak {or they might be } . But they can be at any given moment .And imagin the shorts changing position ....getting out of the short position then buying huge amunts of a stock { straight buys at rock bottom } and now wanting to see it run ..

You ask ..why does this company give a 15 % dividend, And at this time .....And you bring up the past ...As of april 1st this is now a different " ball game" and very different leage . The share price has to catch up and the past actions of the company were in line with playing a different game . What they are now doing { if successful } can permanently buy back and retire shares , obvious increase in share price , create a pattern of dividends , build and sustain share holder confidance , curb any future short activity , continue to attain afiiliate sign ups and thus create an ever increasing possible revenue stream { even bigger growth potntial } and ofcourse eventually moving upto the bullitin boards .

With one more important item ....
What if any part of the programming becomes a big hit .
We talk about the financials and leap frog around the posible scams & dream pennies .....but when has anybody on all stocks ever talked about the creative team behind the programming { you know -the product }.

And tell me ..Since you have owned this stock awhile { obviously longer than I have } ...how many times have you seen the company put out a string of PR's reiterating with confidance " no reverse split " ?

Different ball game .. [Cool]

PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS

[ June 03, 2006, 17:37: Message edited by: Intimatrader ]
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
true, stocks can *trade* below .0001--but prices below that can *not* be displayed. Accordingly, covering would show up as (raher large) blocs going through at .0000... seen any of that?

Furthermore, the initial transaction would have to be marked as a short... Can you imagine how that would look on the books?

[q]but when has anybody on all stocks ever talked about the creative team behind the programming { you know -the product }.[/q]

You really should read some more...product and management gets discussed quite a bit. In this case, there's a ton of stuff out there; the validity? can't say...but it's out there.

That seriously is a big question mark, though, when the CEO or spokesman can't be reached... In a small operation where CEO wears many hats, it's understandable that s/he can't just sit by the phone waiting to talk... But being consistently hard to reach and *not* providing spokesperson raises concerns *at least" about "management" being stretched too thin to cover bases...
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Good points ....to be sure ....

Going back on threads I did find two post on the product { programming } and several saying they tried to call the company .My call got through ..So I guess I was the lucky one . He answered my questions and seemed open as far as never descussing insider information on company activity .

I see nothing to tell me this company is failing or scaming anybody .....and my eyes are wide open .
It is simpy a chance ..Risk against gain .And in this case ....the lowest possible risk against what clearly looks like reasonably large to very large gain .

PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
I can certainly say a stock can trade below .0001 because I sold some free dividends from PYCT. I sold it as a market order and it sold at .00001 a share, I was too pissed, but then again it was free shares.

Peraps we could sign an alliance with Google? Maybe that could be the one to take us over the hump. I pray and hope GOOGLE is the big announcement.

Cha Chingg!!!!!!!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
What does Google have to do with VWKM?
 
Posted by ballyman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BuyTex:
true, stocks can *trade* below .0001--but prices below that can *not* be displayed.

True.

This stock has fallen below .0001, it displayed .0000. Since you can't purchase stock for zero (at least I assume you can't) you then have to assume that the price then becomes .000099, which like you said will not be displayed.

Additionally the price displayed never has to change from .0001 while in the range of .0000 and .0002. If it is at exactly .0001 it can move up 99% before a change is displayed. For that matter it is difficult to know where it is sitting at open unless you were keeping track for days, weeks, months.

In reality it is quite a large playing field.

Ball
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
They just need to launch the cable/vod and off they go.

Not sure when that will be but could be soon. If they are a legit company they should do well. One pr said the launch was a secret. Not sure what business reason to keep a media outlet secret, most want all the advertising they can get.

I am still cautiously optomistic. Most of these .0001 companies have a run in them. Might take a month, three months, a year. It will run if patient.
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
I believe a run is imminent. Hope it runs up the Mountain top.
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
Hey Johnny! Glad to see you still keeping a pulse on this puppy.

Not sure what business reason to keep a media outlet secret, most want all the advertising they can get.

'Some' would appreciate it if all independent films would politely dry up and blow away. Post snipers on all fronts. If this thing turns out to be the no-kidding real-deal and they get the pieces in place for a full lauch, I just won't know what to think... I may even start believing in miracles, and pinks, and...

Would like to see independent film makers have their opportunity.

As long as I keep seeing this... 'Vision Works Media Group, Inc. and wholly owned subsidiary New Screen TV, Inc., the new independent film-dedicated TV channel, have announced... then I'm long and (cautiously) hopeful.

Nice to see that Eagle deal, too.
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
I think it's a matter of time before we get NEWS AND THIS STOCK FLY. We are due news any day now since the divvys just taken place, we need uch more exposure. I am sure management has something in store, why else would they give us a 15% increase in FREE shares? There's some underlying news in the near future to get this stock up sothey and we can make money. At this level how much can the company profit from this stock? Not much if any, they would have to get the PPPS up inorder to get some value from it and as it rises we all profit. If the deals go through as they stated in te past then this stock could be a sleeping GIANT.
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Yes Shall ...I agree 1000% .


Everyone had the ability to buy this stock over the last few weeks at an amazing price .Some did , some did not & some even bashed .

Even when we descuss the facts I see people see the facts differently ...Well some do .

PR's are not always factual ...
But putting out a PR is a fact { it is a fact a company put out a PR }
Now then ...When the company follows through on what was stated ...Then that becomes a fact ..

Example ...

VWKM states a dividend in a PR . I do not assume but rather calculate they will do it and buy shares { bassed on other DD aswell } . Once the company pays the dividend it is proven fact . The company states { in a PR } that the april 1st launching of their programming on the satlite will lead to availability of their product to virtually all cable & fibre optic house holds in the U.S. . My reseach into this proves the availability of the programming so this to me is now fact . In another PR they have stated the signing of afiliates and in other PR's several more . This is the logical next step and to be proven will be stated in revenue and shown in financials .

You can clearly see that the facts are about to accumulate and as they do ...the hard core stubborn traders / investors move in . These are the people that pay a bit more but wait for facts to accumulate .

We are already in this stock ..so there is no " jumping in for us " ...only buying additional shares if we choose .

By the time the company proves the first " mega fact " ....stated revenue from afiliates .....this stock should be at a much higher price

Why much higher ...? Becouse the first level of revenue achieved will be " exactly that " ...
Number one it will be ACHIEVED ..
And number two it will be the FIRST level of revenue with more afiliates to go after .

At some point I think we will look at VWKM and say ...I wish we got into that back when ...

OH YEAH .....WE DID ! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS

[ June 04, 2006, 13:48: Message edited by: Intimatrader ]
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
ballyman writes: "Since you can't purchase stock for zero (at least I assume you can't) you then have to assume that the price then becomes .000099, which like you said will not be displayed. "

A test buy would likely be an expensive proposition, but might prove informative, assuming a broker would provide the data. However, a test *sale* would likely go through--a market order...
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
Hey BuyTex, to 'test buy' like that you would need a broker that recognizes more than 4 digits online or get broker-assisted (phone) help. Unless I planned to put in for more than $1000 at one time, it's hardly worth it.

Two different things happening with those zero bids, though. If the pps trading is actually zero, that means it can range between .0000001 and .0000499. Once it hits .00005, then it's rounded to .0001. I'm seeing a lot of this type of trading between .0001 and .0002, and on up, also. That trading range is not meant to allow a fair trade. The other point has to do with trade corrections and volume crank up.

It's a head game, too, discouraging people from holding long.

I think I left a zero out of those numbers, but my point is still intact, I think.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
phone-assisted assumed (given that I made an assumption [Razz] ) hence the caveat re "expensive"
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
All one has to do is buy the stock and relax, it will pay itself out just fine.
 
Posted by Forrest on :
 
has anyone gotten their 15% yet?
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
Forest not yet, but another guy told me he got his divvys in his Scott Trading account on June 1st. I am awaiting my shares.
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
Forrest are u related to GUMP?
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
When I look at my Ameritrade positions, it doesn't show the Divvys. But, if I look at the gain/loss tracker it does show them. I can also see my PAIV shares
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
It would be amazing for anyone to have the divy shares in thier accounts.

The Pay date isn't until 6/15/2006
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
Well, I guess it is amazing then. My PAIV are not showing up as positions they are only showing in the gain/loss tracking area. I had a friend check and his is showing that way too.
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
My positions page in VWKM are showing what I have purchased but again the gain/loss is showing the additional shares now
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
Anyone else using TDAmeritrade seeing the same?
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
Karma, this is a VWKM divvy. It hasn't been paid yet, for the reason wallymac stated. Anyone showing a VWKM divvy should either call their broker and ask about it or get real and knock it off.

Wise words coming from shall... buy and relax. I did the first part. Can I keep my fingers crossed now, or does that negate the benefit of relaxation? Just joking, but I like your post.
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
Tick, believe me, I was surprised when I saw it. Like I said. When I open my position page it only shows what I've purchased but it I hit the gain/loss button it shows additional shares. My position page shows the 68M I purchased the other page is now show 79M. I can't explain why
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
Couple of points about TDA here...

Divvies are shown on the balance and positions page on or soon after divvy pay date.

If you are referring to the GainsKeeper module that is available on TDA, that would explain some confusion. I, personally, don't like seeing that feature, and it is most often inaccurate. Especially with divvies.

I have some questions for TDA over previous events, and I will add a copy of this conversation to my request for explanation. If, in fact, you are referring to the GainsKeeper - please don't.

Due to the nature of my suspicions, I can wait until trading hours to follow up on this.
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
I was hoping that some one else who uses TDA would check their account and see if it show the same. I know they (TDA) had issues with the whole JPHC merger thing. Just thought it was strange to see this too
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
I just checked and it is in fact the Gainskeeper section. Has this been an ongoing issue?
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
There's a third party relationship with GainsKeeper, and as for ongoing - it is never correct.

I didn't ask for it, I don't pay for it, I don't want to see it, I don't want them to see me. I think that about covers it.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
I have Scottrade and it shows in the Gainskeeper there as well. To my knowledge Gainskeeper is only there as an accounting tool and if you look in the account section the shares are not added and won't be until the 15th at the earliest.

The Gainskeeper is free through Scottrade. Even though I see them on Gainskeeper I they don't show in my trading account.
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
wallymac, this smell fishy to you too, or just me? I've been watching this all year long, picking up divvies just to see how GainsKeeper treats them. And how the stock behaves before and after divvies.

Did anyone ever get a divvy that they felt they should not be entitled to? I did.

BTW, I use the posts as summary only, no cut and paste, no screen names.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
"BTW, I use the posts as summary only, no cut and paste, no screen names."

[Confused]
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
My positions page in VWKM are showing what I have purchased but again the gain/loss is showing the additional shares now
-------------------------------------------------Anyone else using TDAmeritrade seeing the same


Yes, it is that way for me, too.

Jo
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
I am using TD Ameritrade, I wil check now and let you guys know.BRB
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
Tex, what does the yellow face with upside down smile and question marks mean?
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
shows in Gainskeeper but not in the actual acct. on TD Ameritrade.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TickTrader:
wallymac, this smell fishy to you too, or just me? I've been watching this all year long, picking up divvies just to see how GainsKeeper treats them. And how the stock behaves before and after divvies.

Did anyone ever get a divvy that they felt they should not be entitled to? I did.

BTW, I use the posts as summary only, no cut and paste, no screen names.

Not quite sure what to make of it but with what many went through recently with PAIV, I really don't like shares showing up like that. It tends to create confusion. I vaguely remember that happening once and I immediately called Scottrade and they rectified it.

Just a piece of advice for the board don't trade shares unless you are certain you are entitled to them and that they are free trading. Do your own DD on it don't take the word of someone who works for your broker. Those of us who trade online have different liabilities than those placing orders through the broker. Read the agreement that you signed when setting up the account. After reading the Paiv fiasco I read mine and realize I am 100% responsible for any trades I make that are not broker assisted. Don't take chances it's really not worth it.
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
I don't care for 3rd party connections on anything, unless I initiate it.

But the JPHC shares were definitely converted to free trading PAIV shares at TDA, and truly tradable, not just listed in GainsKeeper. I hate smelly fish.

On that liability, though, there's some protection for traders because we have no control over mandatory changes, which includes symbol, name and divvy changes. Liability for at least the initial wave of selling cannot be placed on the trader - IMO.

Getting off topic...
How do you guys do it? Oh, yeah, GOOOOOOO VWKM!!!
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
I am feeling 15% richer.

I don't know the purpose of the divvy but there are some significant reasons I feel like we are coming to the end of a stage.

1. No more announcements on contracts for a while.
2. Leadership change after completing a company goal.
3. Divvy to thank shareholders which gives publicity to the stock.

It just seems we are entering a new phase.

GLTA
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
June 15th is just around the corner, so let's all relax untill then, I am sure it will be there for us all. (Divvies).
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
Volume now beginning to pick up!
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
It's about time. Low volume all morning!
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
My 15% divy is in my scottrade portfolio account but won't be in my active account until the 15th. If I sell before then who gets the divy? MMs?
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Fish you can sell the share you held and the Divy is yours. You cannot sell the divy shares as the pay date is june 15th.

I'm not saying you should sell only that you can. Both ExDate and Record Date have passed.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by shall143:
Volume now beginning to pick up!

Come on. 3.5 million equals $350 if all trades were at .0001. that volume is a drop in the bucket for a stock with over 20B O/S.
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
I have tried to sell some shares this morning with no luck so far.
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
Vicki grl u better hold for the big Tasami.
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Not a bad day.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Here is the host in Houston listing New Screen. Supposedly they are currently in a trial phase with a few homes with full roll out coming soon.

http://www.getfision.com/#bulletTV
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
I wonder if VWKM is close to generating that $8.4MM monthly they stated a month ago in that PR. We may be onto the horizon of something BIG. Patience is the key and I am going to hold my shares in this one.
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
JohhnyRotten, that site doesn't mention anything of New Screen TV.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
I am hopeful they will have some revenue soon. The VOD part is where the money is at imo.

Houston has a lot of people and I wouldn't be surprised to see that much revenue.I would think all the new construction over the past ten years has fiber optics. My brother in law is an EE for SBC and he deals exclusively with fiber.

I wonder who the host is in Dallas/Ft Worth?????
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
Well, I think we are beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel. Think this link you just posted alone will get the volume jumping tomorrow. All aboard?


And there was light!
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
well they need to show us the money if they are generating some and it better be some substantial dollars not no $1/4 MM. Show us some real dollars.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Click on the

http://www.getfision.com/tv/

Full Line Up Link then scroll to the Independent film section, there you will find the New Screen emblem.

and on this page they are mentioned.

http://www.getfision.com/

quote:
By the way, if you are into DVRs (Digital Video Recorders), FISION will offer an optional set-top-box that will offer up to 80 hours of storage capacity for your recording enjoyment! Plus, FISION will carry Hispanic programming featuring channels such as GALAVISION, TUTV, DISCOVERY en Español, Sopresa, Telefe, Cine Latino, TV Chile and UNIVISION, just to name a few. FISION will also provide you with new and unique channels that are not offered by any other provider in Houston such as New Screen TV, The Sportsman Channel, MavTV and WealthTV, in addition to ethnic programming in 13 different languages. In short, you will have more television programming choices for your hard earned dollars.



 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
good work Johnnie, there's life after all in this stock, many have yet to see or heard of this. This is exciting news. Pandamoniummmmmmmm!!!!!!!1
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Thank someone else who showed me the link I am just the messenger,

pandomonium??????

Lord I hope so.

1.4 million would be a good start. 1.4 mil in profit would give us a legit shot at .001 or higher.

Just click your heels three times and repeat over and over

"There's no stock like VWKM, there's no stock like VWKM, there's no stock like VWKM"

GLTA
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
lol, lets hope so, can you imagine 1/4 of the projected $8.4MM. That would really put us on the map.
Holding tight here in Florida VWKM shares galore..
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
How would $2.4 million in gross revenue put us on the map with approx 24B otstanding?

2,400,000/24,000,000,000 = .0001. HMMMMMMMMMMMM
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
I used 1.4 million in profit/30 bill As X 20 pe and it comes to .0009.

I don't know how much revenue you would need to make a good profit but this shows getting off .0001 is possible with say 20 million in revenue.

This stock isn't hopeless. It can still have a good run.

Wally I agree the high OS is a factor, but using your same analogy of volume, 10 billion in volume at .0002 is only 2 million dollars flowing into the stock.

That isn't much market cap for a company with 20 million in revenue. If the company gets launch and it looks like they are succeeding 2 million isn't that much.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
5000 day traders popping in $500 each is 2.5 million in market cap or 2.5 billion in volume.

I bet this runs sometime this summer. Some group will play it at some point. Just have to be ready when it does.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
quote:
How would $2.4 million in gross revenue put us on the map with approx 24B otstanding?

2,400,000/24,000,000,000 = .0001. HMMMMMMMMMMMM

I agree it would make us a .0001 stock, but Houston is only one market. I think we are all hoping for 50 million plus in revenue. Maybe wishful thinking.

At least its alive
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
ya know...

buried deep in some gov't file?

the number of Dyatraders *prolly* is out there...
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
they will run to this stock like maggots to a dead turd.
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
They " shall" sworm to this stock like bee's to honey

That sound more sweet and pleasant [Big Grin]
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
you are right, I am also hoping it's as sweet as honey, which I think it will be...
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
[Wink]
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Intimatrader:
They " shall" sworm to this stock like bee's to honey

That sound more sweet and pleasant [Big Grin]

I hope that we are talking about bee's honey and not the honey pot [Big Grin]
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
Thought the volume would have been higher, but the day is long from over. Just 12 pm and we already almost at yesterdays vol.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
THIS STOCK IS ABSOLUTLEY GOING THROUGH THE ROOF. LOOK OUT FOLKS HERE COMES VWKM, OH MY GOD ITS INCREDIBLE...

Oh wait....no its not [Frown]
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
Volume alert. people are beggining to discover the value in this stock. Think they are jumping in after seeing that link last night Johnnie Rotten passed along. This stock is huge boys and girls. Hold your shares, volume is going crazy. If the volume keeps up we should see a rise in the PPPS by the close on Friday. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
It will move ..no doubt about it .....And the next PR's could be EXPLOSIVE

BOOOOOOM .....what was that ...get ready [Eek!] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
BREAKOUT is imminent, I can sense it. Hold tight and be rewarded.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
lol
 
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
 
So which one of you was the funny guy and put that order in? LOL

My alerts went crazy. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
You guys are Hillarious, I need a crash cart now...
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
What happened?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
the price went up %500 a second ago.
 
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
 
Some one executed an order at .0005. For about a minute pps was up 500%
 
Posted by ballyman on :
 
This has done a spike like that in the past. The last one I saw went up 700%. Anyone know what causes it to shoot up then come imediately back down. Is someone making serious $$$ on those spikes??

Ball
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
No, either someone did a fat finger trade or else someone thought it would be funny to buy a few shares at that price...No one has made any money off this stock in months...
 
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
 
Either stupid people using market orders on penny stocks or fat fingers by MM's. OR someone being silly and trying to manipulate a run by intentionally purchasing above ask. Never works but it's often good for a laugh. No, I doubt anyone makes bank off of those except MM's.
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
Now I see it. Damn fat finger.

VWKM 02:20PM 0.0005 0.00 400.00%
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
L2s please anyone?
 
Posted by rv on :
 
6 ppl at ask .0001
4 at ask .0002
1 at ask .001

No BId
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Thanks
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
Maybe that's a sign of things to come. By the way we had great volume today. Tomorrow could be much more exciting.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
or maybe not.
 
Posted by kevy0899 on :
 
Time & Sales
Price Size Exch Time
0.0001 3000000 OTO 14:36:43
0.0001 2000000 OTO 14:36:43
0.0001 5000000 OTO 14:36:22
0.0001 1000000 OTO 14:34:12
0.0001 6270000 OTO 14:32:54
0.0001 3000000 OTO 14:24:16
0.0001 2000000 OTO 14:23:22
0.0001 9000000 OTO 14:23:22
0.0001 9000000 OTO 14:23:22
0.0005 4000000 OTO 14:20:48
0.0001 1000000 OTO 13:25:53
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:25:47
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:25:42
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:25:36
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:25:16
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:25:09
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:25:04
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:24:58
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:24:50
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:24:44
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:24:38
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:24:32
0.0001 1000000 OTO 13:23:53
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:23:52
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:23:51
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:23:50
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:23:49
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:23:49
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:23:48
0.0001 9000000 OTO 13:23:47
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
By the looks of the volume the past 30 days, it seems as if it's due to start trending up. Time is on our hands, the sky is the limit. that .0005 trade went through for 4MM shares, that was hefty, should kick start the rally. If we have another day tomorrow like we had today, I am quite sure this stock will be trading at .0002 by Friday.


STOCK HISTORY: VISION WKS MEDIA GROUP INC (OTO : VWKM)
Date Open High Low Close Volume
06/06/06 0.000 0.001 0.000 0.000 276,569,984
06/05/06 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 25,148,000
06/02/06 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 44,353,200
06/01/06 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 54,723,400
05/31/06 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 307,932,384
05/30/06 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 510,976,096
05/26/06 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 175,920,000
05/25/06 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 93,654,496
05/24/06 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 49,900,096
05/23/06 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 63,474,000
05/22/06 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 263,769,904
05/19/06 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 171,933,232
05/18/06 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 11,930,000
05/17/06 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 80,140,696
05/16/06 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 75,706,040
05/15/06 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 292,253,984
05/12/06 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 84,691,104
05/11/06 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 161,750,000
05/10/06 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 358,475,072
05/09/06 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 370,424,000


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Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
I think they are preparing something big in the next PR.

Might have something very special to say in it and that might be why after a string of good PR's they are taking a breather from PR's to climax the importance of the next PR's with a select time to make a big anouncement .
And ....a small but quik statement that they are buying back shares { while share price sits very under valued } would make a great pre-announcement before major PR's that could actually be about new incoming revenues and the increasing revenue stream .

It makes a lot of sense ...you know they are itching to put out the next PR 's . It must be a biggie . [Big Grin]
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
I have an idea, why don't they buy back a few billion shares, and then release a PR telling us about it? Or maybe they have been to busy doing just that to release PR's lately. I sure hope they don't use Scotrade, that would be a lot of time and labor calling their local branch to execute purchases.
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
Hey, maybe the volume today could indicate a PR for tomorrow? That could be the reason for todays spike in volume. Hope the price spike on NEWS tomorrow.
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Could the increase in volume actually be the company buying back shares .....

Could the reason the slow down on PR's be a window to buy back shares at a price that won't remain very long .....once they release the next PR's ......

Could the next PR's be the follow up to the last PR's .....What was projected revenue may actually now be a permanent and increasing revenue stream .....And gives them the cash to buy back shares and easily pay the dividend ....

Could the dividend pay date be the time to release the next PR's and have atleast the first part of buy back completed .

Think about it .....AWBV stated just last week they are buying back shares { and have now already started } and the price somehow still remains at .0001 ....Might be part of method to keep price down while buying back shares for greatest value .

SMMW just announced they will buy back upto 4 billion shares ......And their price remains at .0001 { Again ...that might be part of the method in buying back - to keep price down while company is buying } .

COULD THIS ACTUALLY BE HAPPENING

Becouse the last PR's were strong & positive with projected revenue .

Becouse many investors don't want "projected " they want stated and proven " revenue " { as in the next PR's }/

Becouse two others " awbv & smmw " are also doing a buy back .

Becouse the price is pervect for them to do a buy back and the funds might have arrived { revenue } for them to do it .


So my question is ......can they be buying back before releasing a statement of a buy back ...or do they need to state it first { and that could drive the price up during the buy back } .
 
Posted by ballyman on :
 
I like how you think...could be a possibility...I dunno??

Would certainly be above average to have actual "past tense" info i.e. "we already bought back "x" shares" included in the next PR vs the typical forward looking statements.

Never-the-less I will be just as content with a good PR. [Smile]

Ball
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
Either way would be a positive for this sleeping GIANT!
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Acts as if a quiet period.

Calm before the storm.

The Houston link says a lot to me. It is a real company with a real business.
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
VWKM, looking for a BIG day, this little stock "shall" roar today!!!!!
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
Does anyone know when they are to report financials? I was just curious if we would see actual $$$ instead of just speculation.
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
HAVE NO CLUE, PERHAPS EARLY NEXT MONTH.
 
Posted by kevy0899 on :
 
0 Volume so far? Any ideas?
 
Posted by Skyman on :
 
What's with the lock on the other VWKM topic? Is that how to stop one too many?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
they probably folded...

quote:
Originally posted by kevy0899:
0 Volume so far? Any ideas?


 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Karma Earl:
Does anyone know when they are to report financials? I was just curious if we would see actual $$$ instead of just speculation.

They are a Pink Sheet company and therefore are not required to file financials. I doubt very much that VWKM would ever want actually file audited financials. Their last SEC filing was April of 2005 over a year ago. Pump and speculation is the only chance VWKM has of getting the PPS to move.

Doesn't the fact that they can't be reached by phone or email tell you something. To my knowledge only 1 person has stated he was able to contact the company. I have tried numerous times over the last 3 months and have yet to get as much as an acknowledgement of them recieving my call or my email.

Don't buy the pump do your DD and logically make your own assessment.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
quote:
they probably folded
If they folded why would they be on the fision website?
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
What would indicate this stock is going to go through the roof? the last news I can find is:
Vision Works Media Group, Inc. 15% Stock Dividend To Be Paid to Owners of Record on June 1, 2006
By BusinessWire
Last Update: 5/17/2006 9:00:08 AM

That's nearly 3 weeks ago.....I am looking for the right $0.0001 stock to play. someone tell me why this is the right one.
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
What sort of play, Egg Inspector?

I like the handle.
 
Posted by zigster on :
 
what are the odds a stock so tiny gets off the ground within the next 2 years
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
well.....$1000 to $100,000 play
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Both auroras and OEM are currently testing and expected to launch 2nd quarter from pr's.

Possibly they could do something this summer, maybe soon maybe a couple months.

Not sure this stock will make it but not many .0001 stocks do. If revenues are even half the pr's it should have a good run.
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
Yep, ditto what Johnny says. Still looks like a summer mover if everything comes together.
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
auroras and OEM are currently testing and expected to launch 2nd quarter from pr's.

I am a newB. day B4 yesterday was my first * allstocks. Please explain the above sentence


"man.....this is confusing!"
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
tick..........thanks for 'handle' comment
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
Let me quantify and qualify the term 'mover' as I have used it - it might and it might not steady at .0002 and it might go higher and it might not.

lol
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Egg Inspector:
tick..........thanks for 'handle' comment

lol, speaking of handles...why'd you change yours?
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
Egg Inspector... wonder how many peeps on allstocks know what 'candling' is or how it is accomplished on eggs.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
...or on nicks vs chicks

[Razz]
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
candling
again I am lost.

Tex...as far as changing my handle...I set up my account with my actual name first/last initial. I immediately find myself arguing in a thread (my first experience) Egg inspector is my old Yahoo chat handle and I always liked it.....most of the time other peeps liked it too.
so.....in the middle of my first thread, I am also editing my profile for the first time cause I didn't like some of the preferences

then....I get accused of being a 'multiple handle, nooget munching pumper' I think is how it was put.......LOL
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
so..... as I asked above [B]"What would indicate this stock is going to go through the roof?"
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
so....if you don't know what candling is, lol--what kind of eggs do you inspect?
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
will check back in morning for answers to lifes perplexing questions.............GOOD NIGHT ALL
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
you know....one time I came up with an explanation.

I said " I have a secial internal probe that checks....well this isn't the place.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I know what candling is! Only because my son's first grade class raised baby ducks from eggs, and he told me!

Jo
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
one more thing before bedtime....I have been 'trending' a stock ACKHQ at a site called *************.com

I have actually done quite well.

I have seen the term candling refering to the stock trend indication system...is that what your refering to?
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
sorry for typo: "[special] internal probe"
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
Sounds like Jo got there, guys!

Nite, all.
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Not to worry ...The mighty underdog of stocks will have tiny panic sell ..but when the fools are out it will turn in other direction ...

Look at it this way ..the longer it does it's last dance at .0001 & .0002 we can grab a few more shares .

Just sit back and take a break and let a little time do it's wonderfull magic .Even if you bought at .0004 I can promiss you ....you can do very well here .
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
We need NEW NEWS of the replacement of the president who just left for that other cable company about a month ago. Maybe that would jump start us.
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
also did they find office space and production studios in Cali yet? Maybe thay are using the cash to do these things with. There's definately a plan here, just need to speed it up. VWKM is going places, we are going Hollywood. Just need the price of this stock to blow up like Hollywood stars. Or perhaps we need a BIG name endorser on this company to help promate it. Cash infusion.......
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
The Flud gates will open up today for VWKM, up she goes!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
What's a flud gate?
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
Like a door of a dam, pressure built up from the water and opening of the gate causes the pressure to bust through like a volcano erupting.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
What's a flud gate?

It's a Southern Flood gate.
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cottonjim:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
What's a flud gate?

It's a Southern Flood gate.
A northern trickle and here it comes! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
i'M IN!.....got out of that dog PGPM * .065 (and dropping like a rock this morning and put my last few bucks in * .0001
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
now the damn things bouncin! ah well!
 
Posted by Madvillain on :
 
You guys aren't serious are ya? VWKM??? lmfao! Come on guys, this company is a joke, a bunch of criminals. I can't believe there is a VWKM thread on this forum, you guys need a reality check, this stock is just as worthless as QBID.

Cheers and have fun,

Mad
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
This stock will go. Just sit tight.
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
We get our 15% Divvys in our account on thursday. Mulahhhhh. We should be receiving a PR by then.
 
Posted by Madvillain on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by shall143:
This stock will go. Just sit tight.

Go where? and when? lol... I've kept my eye on this company and the news in the past sounds very promising, but we need audited financial statements, until then, this stock is doomed. It's not gonna move from $0.0001 I promise you that, you and everyone else will be waiting a long a$$ time for movement bro.

Peace.
 
Posted by Madvillain on :
 
Vision Works Hot Garbage...
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
PAYD running.
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
Are we there yet?? Patiently waiting...
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
If by there yet you mean traders Hell, then yes, we have been there for quite some time with this one.
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
we get there when we get there!
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
low volume day. Perhaps we fly on news next week. Crossing my fingers.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
according to level II we are only 125 million in volume from .0002.
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
damn, that's like 10 days away unless we get a spike in volume next week. Well, it's chipping away.
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
One thing is for sure, they do not return any phone calls, I have called and left a message every day for the past 5 days and no return [Big Grin]
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Interesting how level II stacks up.

ASK

6 at .0001
5 at .0002
1 at .0003
4 at .0005 but small orders.

bid
1 at .0001
1 at .0002
4 at .0003
13 at .0004

One good news event and we push through .0001 and .0002 on heavy volume.Once you get past .0004 it is clear sailing with no resistance.

What we need is a good pr with say 1-2 billion in volume and we break out. It isn't that hard if the company is still in business.

More light at the end of the tunnel.

What it looks like to me is that .0004 is the next gathering point, mm's sell to .0004 and then gather at .0004. Once this runs I think it will accumulate at .004 and have another leg. Maybe to .0005 or .0006.

Depends on the news.
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
UM ELECTRFIED ACHA CHA
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
If the company has stopped diluting it will be the last couple weeks at .0001 at these volume levels. if you want in at .0001 you need to get in now, It is slowly whittling away and with good news you will see it for about an hour at most.

Buy your lottery ticket now boys. Last chance.
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
What would indicate this stock is going to go through the roof? the last news I can find is:

OCALA, Fla., May 17, 2006 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Vision Works Media Group, Inc. (Pink Sheets:VWKM) and wholly owned subsidiary New Screen TV, Inc., the new independent film-dedicated TV channel, have announced that all shareholders of record on June 1, 2006 that own 100 shares will be issued 15 shares of VWKM stock. The mail date shall be June 15, 2006.

please, someone who believes in this,tell me, from your experience, why this is going to run?
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
You have a better chance of getting f****d at a convent than this stock has of making a big run any time soon. It's a lottery ticket, buy at .0001 and sit on it. PPS is not going anywhere significant for a while IMO.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
quote:
What would indicate this stock is going to go through the roof? the last news I can find is:

OCALA, Fla., May 17, 2006 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Vision Works Media Group, Inc. (Pink Sheets:VWKM) and wholly owned subsidiary New Screen TV, Inc., the new independent film-dedicated TV channel, have announced that all shareholders of record on June 1, 2006 that own 100 shares will be issued 15 shares of VWKM stock. The mail date shall be June 15, 2006.

If the company meets its projected revenues it should have a nice run.

http://www.vswm.com/pages/news.html?symbol=VWMG

quote:
OCALA, Fla., May 04, 2006 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Vision Works Media Group, Inc. (Pink Sheets:VWKM) announces that wholly owned subsidiary New Screen Television, Inc. is now focusing on affiliate negotiations that will allow the company to launch in additional states in 2006, to generate $8.4 million monthly and a 15 percent stock dividend to shareholders of record on June 1, 2006.
"We are excited to be progressing solidly now to be able to expand the channel's distribution into Pennsylvania, New York, California, Ohio, Georgia, Louisiana and Oregon this year," said Mark Astrom, New Screen TV's President. The distribution in each new market is projected to be worth $1.2 million in monthly revenues, per market, from subscriber fees alone.


That is almost 100 million per year just from subscriber fees without VOD.

That press release is 5 weeks old. Why would they put it out just to fold a couple weeks later?

So with 100 mil in revenues you could expect 10 million in profit.

10 mil / 30bil OS X 20 pe = .006 per share

From .0001 that is a 60 bagger.

Just depends if the company keeps its word and has been honest. If it hits even 10 million revenues with 1 million profit it is a .0009 stock.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
PS,

I believe things are quiet because they are working on something. The contracts in above markets perhaps.

I also think they are close to launch in a couple of markets.

I have always looked at this as a great buyout company. A big fish wanting to buy into VOD or cable could buy them.

Enterprise value with 8.4 million in monthly revenues is about .006 per share. It would be a cheap way for a big fish to enter this business.

Do you realize Microsoft has now entered the VOD fray with its own music channel that is side by side with VWKM on Aurora Network.

Lots of big fish now involved.

quote:
New Screen TV is now available to any and all satellite, cable and fiber-to-the-home system operators in the U.S. New affiliates will join Optical Entertainment Network, Auroras TV, and Eagle Broadband as a part of New Screen TV's growing roster of affiliates. Distribution of New Screen TV is via the SES-Americom AMC-10 satellite.


The OEN group that is our cable host in Houston is headed by execs from Dish Network.

http://www.fision.net/press/

About Auroras.

http://www.auroras.tv/

They are just waiting for launch which I doubt we have any control over.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
A good video.

http://www.fision.net/videos/wmv/
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Phonoscope is OEN's partner providing the fiber optics.

Here is there content list.

http://www.phonoscopecable.com/channel_lineup/

notice the independent film channel. #399
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Here is the pricing under Digital Mini Movie.

http://www.phonoscopecable.com/channel_lineup_pricing/

Independent film channel I think it is.
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
JohnnyRotten,

Thanks for the DD.
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Most excellent work Johnny....

This is a very real company and I would call this ..a big transition time for them ...

I have said for weeks now that I believe the silence is for a reason . After PR's of projected revenue and announcement of dividend they saw price not really move .

The next PR's might have actual revenue and increasing revenue stream , dividends delivered , increasing numbers of affiliates and possible share buy back .
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
I think Phonoscope is their test. They only have 200,000 residents directly hooked up. I don't know how many of them have signed up for cable.

The 9.95 mini movie package X 100,000 would be 1 million per month divided by all parties in the package.

After the test they will reach into the bigger market of 1.6 million homes in the area.


I would imagine the local cable and internet companies are wetting themselves right now.
 
Posted by Skyman on :
 
On the other hand, is it possible to walk in the front door of their main offices and ask a question?
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Have you tried?
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
Johnny good work, mean Great work!!!!!!!!

This is exciting!!!!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
Phonoscope is OEN's partner providing the fiber optics.

Here is there content list.

http://www.phonoscopecable.com/channel_lineup/

notice the independent film channel. #399

You have to help me out here. When I look at the line up for Phonoscope I don't see New Screen TV anywhere. I do See IFC, a well established channel called the Independant Film Channel. If you are some how insinuating that IFC is really NSTV, I'm sorry but you are mistaken.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
i have already sent an e-mail to verify if new screen is in the lineup.

New Screen is on the fision/oen site which is the partner/affiliate to Photoscope.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
i have already sent an e-mail to verify if new screen is in the lineup.

New Screen is on the fision/oen site which is the partner/affiliate to Photoscope.

I was just pointing out that if New Screen is in the lineup it will be under NSTV. I have seen it in the lineup but forget whether it was under Eagle or Aurora.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
The photoscope site has 279 channels and the OEN has 400+.

quote:
FISION will also provide you with new and unique channels that are not offered by any other provider in Houston such as New Screen TV, The Sportsman Channel, MavTV and WealthTV, in addition to ethnic programming in 13 different languages. In short, you will have more television programming choices for your hard earned dollars.

Notice it says New Screen and those following will not be carried by any other provider.

http://www.getfision.com/

I hope you aren't insinuating that because its not on the affiliate that it isn't on OEN which is the broader Houston market.

That is a great selling point we carry 400 channels, you carry 279.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Having just read the Fision site. They have the potential to reach 1.6 Million subscribers in Houston. They do not have 1.6 Million subscribers.

We now have NSTV/VWKM's projections based on the projections of Fision.

In other words this is all pie-in-the-sky projections.

I'll give you an example. There are approximately 2000 homes in my very immediate area that have lawns. The potential of my new lawn mowing contracting business is 2000 potential clients * $100 per month for lawn care.
Projected revenues are $200,000 per month. At this point I have not signed ONE customer but I have the potential to sign all 2000.

Now I have signed an agreement with a lawn cutting service to give them the exclusive right to any business I sign at a price of $50 per month. $50 per home X 2,000 homes. They can now project Monthly revenues of $100,000 per month.

The problem is no one has signed up for the service yet. So as of today the actual value of this contract is $O.

We have no idea of what the true value of NSTV is until such time as Fision signs these customers and then they have the ability to sign up for NSTV. At this point it's all hot air.

They might as well say they have potential monthly income of X billions of dollars based on X billions of households in the world that can be reached via Satellite/cable/fiber.

At this time it's still all smoke and mirrors. I look forward to them communicating actual household's that have signed up for NSTV. Then we will finally have a basis to go on.
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
Is this VWKM this flimsy? is it;

<A>pie-in-the-sky as Wally says?

or

is it

<B> a real company, with soon to be realized business that's just a matter of time?
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Wow the whole world is falling apart.

Of course it is a pie in the sky start up. The Photoscope site just proves the concept is already taking off under their partner.

It is a real business and real concept recognized by business everywhere. The Photoscope project with 200K households is not the full version. As I said above it was a test.

Do a google of "fision" and see how many recognized tech sites have followed their project.

Like Fiber Optics Weekly.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0NVN/is_41_25/ai_n15863393

or

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15228659

As far as Independent Film Channel on Phonoscope I was hoping it was New Screen. I will probably get word back Monday from Phonoscope if it is or is not, or if NS will be added. I sent the e-mail yesterday. Hopefully they will reply.

As stated above on the fision site these are not on any other carrier,

quote:
New Screen TV, The Sportsman Channel, MavTV and WealthTV,
Do you see these in the Phonoscope programming? Do you see any ethnic programming besides spanish on phonoscope? Phonoscope has 279 of the 400+.

1.6 million households is a lot. If we draw 1/4 of them it is still 400k houses. With phone and internet OEN would have revenues of 25 million per month+. Of that New Screen could do very well. 1/400th would be 62,500 per month or 750,000 per year. This is without VOD.

This is only one market, they will be national as affiliates are added. They have 18 million targeted households., do the math if they only get 1/4th or 4.5 million.

My projections above figured pps with only 10 million per year and 1 million profit X 20 pe = .0009.

Do you people think this is unreasonable or over inflated? I think it is conservative to the max.

This from a VWKM pres release

quote:
OCALA, Fla., Apr 17, 2006 (BUSINESS WIRE)

Vision Works Media Group, Inc. (Pink Sheets:VWKM) and wholly owned subsidiary New Screen Television, Inc. announce that negotiations have been established with six new pay-TV distributors. Revenues are to exceed previously stated goals of $2,000,000 monthly from subscriptions alone.


Is the company wrong for stating 2 million per month from all of its new markets covering several states. 6 agreements the size of Houston? What happens if we get into NY, LA, and Chicago, etc.

62,500 per month via Houston X 20 states = 1.2 million per month. They have stated 8.4 million per month or 8 X these numbers. Maybe they are over inflated or maybe they have a better handle on the actual deals they made.

If someone wants to refute the numbers show us the contracts and we will believe you, otherwise we have to depend on the press releases.

Yes it is pie in the sky, but Phonoscope shows it as a reality coming true.

Just wait til launch.

[ June 10, 2006, 10:41: Message edited by: JohnnyRotten ]
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
A great article about the service.

quote:
a 90% take rate
http://www.xchangemag.com/articles/5b1now02.html

Wally and Egg, this is set up to do real well. Plus in the article we see a glimpse of why VWKM may want production facilities.

quote:
“One of our core competencies is development of content in our studios, OEN Studios, which is already revenue-generating. And they do productions for NBC, ABC Inc., America’s Most Wanted, E! Entertainment Television Inc. They’re doing “The Score,” which is a television program out of Canada. And we do that all in high def. And then we have a highly proficient software engineering group that develops television software for the set-top box middleware layer ... to bring new applications
There is a big void in HD programming and owning studios would give us an entrance into that void.

[ June 10, 2006, 12:09: Message edited by: JohnnyRotten ]
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Exactly ..I agree with Johnny .

Risk againt gain this is a wonderfull stock { i.e. company } to be invested in .

I also think that a big transition is happening as we speak .April 1st the satlelite launched the signal to be available to potentially every fibre optic & cable ready home in america . And I don't really think anybody fully understood what a big piece of news that was .

Think about this ......Other companies have all kinds of cost assosiated with the product . Some companies get sued becouse a kid eats a part of the product and chokes . In the case of McDonalds a lady spilled the product { hot coffey } on her lapp and got millions .

That can't happen here ...and this product has no weight to associate with a shipping cost , is not phiscally distributed to associate to a gasoline fuel cost or employee { truck driver } cost to transport .

There are a lot of advantages to this type of product .They paid their dues to get to this point where their programming is available via the satlelite .....now their team of " get to it " people will be WORKING HARD to sign new affiliates .

And I am really liking that word affiliates now ....

Affiliates ....affiliates ...affiliates .....

Sounds like .....revenue ..revenue ...revenue

When we know it is " cast in concrete " and revenue is streaming in from signing of affiliates ...we will know that the revenue projections work .....what ever number of affiliates they now have will obviously continue to increase .

I guess I can just say one last thing ..

Congrats to all of us in this company . [Big Grin]

PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Good post Intimitrader.

quote:
right now it is worth $0
Wrong, the beta of 200 homes started a long time ago, they already have at least that many. Plus I am sure Phonoscope's service pays OEN something.
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Thanks ..

I know the fear and horror that some people have on there face when they see a beloved stock of theirs sitting at .0001 [Eek!]

So I guess I have nerves of steel then ... Me---> [Big Grin]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
This is not about fear and horror. You're right it's a .0001 stock. My objection is when it's portrayed as a stock ready to explode. My objection is not to the idea or technology but to the company's management. My objection is to the pattern of misrepresentation by the company's management, in particular Mark Astrom. Let me give you an example:

VWKM -- Vision Works Media Group, Inc.
Com ($0.001)

COMPANY NEWS AND PRESS RELEASES FROM OTHER SOURCES:

New Screen TV Adds New States Worth $8.4 Million Monthly & 15% Stock Dividend

OCALA, Fla., May 04, 2006 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Vision Works Media Group, Inc. (Pink Sheets:VWKM) announces that wholly owned subsidiary New Screen Television, Inc. is now focusing on affiliate negotiations that will allow the company to launch in additional states in 2006, to generate $8.4 million monthly and a 15 percent stock dividend to shareholders of record on June 1, 2006.
"We are excited to be progressing solidly now to be able to expand the channel's distribution into Pennsylvania, New York, California, Ohio, Georgia, Louisiana and Oregon this year," said Mark Astrom, New Screen TV's President. The distribution in each new market is projected to be worth $1.2 million in monthly revenues, per market, from subscriber fees alone.

Shareholders of record on June 1, 2006 will be issued 1.5 million shares of VWKM stock for each 10 Million shares that are owned on June 1, 2006. Company policy is no reverse stock splits. This action is being done to reward shareholders for their loyal following of the company.

The company is already launching with existing affiliates in Texas, Florida, Montana, Minnesota, Iowa and Arizona. The stated goal is to be available nationwide throughout the lower 48 states in 2007.

New Screen TV is now available to any and all satellite, cable and fiber-to-the-home system operators in the U.S. New affiliates will join Optical Entertainment Network, Auroras TV, and Eagle Broadband as a part of New Screen TV's growing roster of affiliates. Distribution of New Screen TV is via the SES-Americom AMC-10 satellite.

New Screen TV is the first truly independent film channel that programs independent movies, documentaries, specials, series, concerts, music videos and productions.


If you notice the Headline states ADDS, inferring that it's a done deal. The body states that they will now focus on negotiations. It's the same as the projections that are based on projections and are projected at 100% market penetration.

I like the product but don't trust Mark Astrom because of the misrepresentations and lack of honest communications. IF this ever does go forward it is very long term as JimSC has stated a lottery ticket to be cashed 15 yrs down the road.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by monk on :
 
You're right, it's very frusrating not knowing and being kept in the dark.
But don't expect positive results in the near future. Negotiations and contracts take time, and their implementation even longer. This is a long term stock. Sit back and put it out of your mind. This is an extremely high-risk stock, you should have known that before you bought it. I find this to be an interesting gamble (I own 12M), and I'm ready to wait 2 years for this to bear fruit. I'm also prepared to lose it all.
Remember, this is a 0001 stock. All odds are against this succeeding.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Monk: I agree with you. I just believe that potential investors deserve to see both sides to the coin and not just the pump of how this stock is going to explode. The shares I bought pre-dilution are socked away in a drawer and I don't expect anything in the near term. The purchase of any stock trading with 3 zero's in front of it is a complete gamble but it also doesn't mean that the company has the right to deceive or scam shareholders they still need to be held accountable.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
Monk, you're willing to tie up 1,200 bucks for two years? Not saying you're "wrong," simply interested in your risk metrics...cost/benefit parameters.

*****

I just started watching this one a bit. Must say, from what I've seen? Wallymac is posting circles around JR and Intimitrader...JR seems to at least attempt some DD; Intimitrader reminds me of scamsters I've seen before, working under other nicks...
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
I have never said it was ready to explode. Quite the opposite. I have always said it would be a summer run. Maybe July/August.

There are several factors working in behalf of a move off of .0001.

1. It has been portrayed as a scam. If it is a legit company and people find out with real proof then sentiment will change and people will see .0001 as a golden opportunity.

2. It has traded at .0001 for a long time and according to level II only 30K contracts left at .0001. I take that as 150 million shares, so those could sell in one day with positive news.

3. The ask was at .0002 friday morning for a short period with no sales.

4. The revenue projections are really high and probably inflated, but all they need is 5 million in revenue to move off .0001. One million in revenue would move them off .0001.

5. Launch according to OEN is second quarter O6. We don't know projected launch of other carriers. Certainly 06 sometime. If launch is announced this summer the news will take us off .0001.

I don't have enough info to refute the CEO or press releases. So i'm not going to be negative without evidence they are lying. I think revenues are high but I don't know the terms of the deals. I do not have enough info to refute what they are saying.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
headlines promising what the PR can't deliver is quite troubling...
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Here is my logic for a summer run and why I am in now, and it is very simple.


Can anyone honestly say that if they announce launch this summer and we are on the channel list, that this stock will stay at .0001?

Anyone who says it will stay at .0001 if launch is real is a fool.

All I am betting on is that there will be a real launch 2nd quarter 06 as announced. Whether revenues are known at launch is going to be totally immaterial because many will be buying pure and simple just on the launch news.

Period, case closed, end of story. It will rally at launch, and if launch date is speculated it wil slowly creep north up until launch.

If I find out launch is a hoax then we all lost our money.


This is not anymore of a scam than the Nigerian drug stock that has prophesied production for months. Maybe someday that too will launch and it will run til someone shoots down the revenues or whatever. All sub-pennies play this game. Some are real and some are not.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
John,

I see the CEO's name in several spots around the 'Net...he *does* seem to get around. Will say this: a google search of his "name + defendant" has not turned up any results.

LOL, *that's* a good sign...

Yet... wally has posted some points, which to me seem to be brushed aside. That's not a good sign...

Wasn't it you who posted sumpin like "I'll believe the PRs" ??

well, anybody can pay to put out "PRs" on the 'Net...

As you say, "some are real and some are not."

You also mention by allusion XKEM: seasoned traders are playing that as momentum play, swing play, whatever you wanna call it... but you equivocate it with the apologia, well "This is not anymore of scam than..."

On the other hand? you have posters *on this thread* claiming to be willing to tie up 1200 bucks, for TWO years...

We have lottsa newbies, every week. We have lottsa members who never/hardly ever post; we have even more lurkers...

knock, knock...

you *seem* to like DD--call the company, the CEO...send somebody to check em out. Who's the TA? anybody talked to them?


make sense?
 
Posted by monk on :
 
Tex, I wasn't counting on dilution. I thought I'd be up a few bucks with heavy volume at this time. But yeah, it's a 1200.00 gamble. I've done worse in Vegas though.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
dilution a booger bear, bro...

I took it on the chin with WFTV/WTVN...

not saying they're "similar" necessarily, but one thing does bother me at this point: Intimitrader

we *did* have similar "salesmanship" on the WFTV thread...

lol, what's bad for my "resume"? I coulda got out with a near double....but NOOO, I had to hang for the BIG SCORE.

oh, well...live n learn, etc...
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
One thing is for sure, they do not return any phone calls, I have called and left a message every day for the past 5 days and no return [Big Grin]

No one ever answers their phone, all you ever get is an answering machine no matter what time of the day you call them. How can they conduct business via an answering machine? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
One thing is for sure, they do not return any phone calls, I have called and left a message every day for the past 5 days and no return [Big Grin]

No one ever answers their phone, all you ever get is an answering machine no matter what time of the day you call them. How can they conduct business via an answering machine? [Big Grin]
kinda sorta my point...
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
kids? if *you* had mustered enough together to have a public company, wouldn't you set up some mechanism for communicating with investors/traders/potential shareholders?
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BuyTex:
kids? if *you* had mustered enough together to have a public company, wouldn't you set up some mechanism for communicating with investors/traders/potential shareholders?

You would think so.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
Here is my logic for a summer run and why I am in now, and it is very simple.


Can anyone honestly say that if they announce launch this summer and we are on the channel list, that this stock will stay at .0001?

Anyone who says it will stay at .0001 if launch is real is a fool.

All I am betting on is that there will be a real launch 2nd quarter 06 as announced. Whether revenues are known at launch is going to be totally immaterial because many will be buying pure and simple just on the launch news.

Period, case closed, end of story. It will rally at launch, and if launch date is speculated it wil slowly creep north up until launch.

If I find out launch is a hoax then we all lost our money.


This is not anymore of a scam than the Nigerian drug stock that has prophesied production for months. Maybe someday that too will launch and it will run til someone shoots down the revenues or whatever. All sub-pennies play this game. Some are real and some are not.

Can anyone honestly say that if they announce launch this summer and we are on the channel list, that this stock will stay at .0001?

Can you honestly say it will not stay at .0001? I think not. I'm not some johnny-come-lately to this stock who has done considerable DD. I've been in as I have stated pre-dilution and also post on other boards and know the feeling of many who invested pre-dilution and during the dilution. A vast majority can hardly wait to be able to sell. Many have tired to sell at .0001 to no avail. This will have to reach .0002 X .0003 be before anyone can make a profit, which will be a 100% profit for those in at .0001. With the amount of selling that will take place it's very difficult to see this getting anywhere above .0003 for quite sometime.
If the company dumps the 7 billion shares they have left in the treasury after issuing the dividend will that tell you anything or will you continue to make excuses for the company and say there is nothing to disprove their claims?

The one line of people that pump stocks that always makes me cringe is "There is no evidence that I have read that proves this company is a scam." Since when did the burden of proof shift from the companies that we invest in and their responsibility to shareholders to the repsonsibility now becoming the shareholders to disprove what they issue in PR's. A company wanting share holders money should have to give them a basis of why we should invest in them.

You have, in a form, already acknowledged that the projections are most likely overstated. Instead of this giving you pause you let the company off the hook saying even if the revenues are substantially lower we will still.......

That is exactly what they want. Cut them some slack so that they can continue to issue baseless PR's overstating Revenue and attracting the less seasoned and unseasoned investors in. Anything can run. It doesn't make it a good investment nor prove the company to be legit.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Here's a fact:

Transfer Agent
American Registrar & Transfer Co.,342 East 900,South, Salt Lake City, UT 84111
Ph: 801-363-9065

Share Structure
9.26.2005
OS = 2.3MMM
Affiliated Restricted 2MMM
Public Float 315MM

10.31.2005
OS = 2.6MMM
Affiliated Restricted 2MMM
Public Float 534MM

11.28.2005
AS = 20 billion
OS = 2.8MMM
Affiliated Restricted 2MMM
Public Float 774MM

12.5.2005
Affiliated Restricted 2MMM
Public Float 900MM

1.11.2006 OS = 2.9MMM
1.20.2006 OS = 3.4MMM
1.23.2006 OS = 3.7MMM
1.30.2006 OS = 3.6MMM (120MM retired in buy back)
2.09.2006 OS = 4.2MMM
2.23.2006 OS = 4.9MMM
3.22.2006 OS = 7.9MMM
3.31.2006 OS = 12.2MMM
4.05.2006 OS = 13.7MMM
4.13.2006 OS = 15.8MMM
4.18.2006 OS = 18.5MMM
5.30.2006 OS = 20.8MMM
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
Here's a fact:

Transfer Agent
American Registrar & Transfer Co.,342 East 900,South, Salt Lake City, UT 84111
Ph: 801-363-9065

Share Structure
9.26.2005
OS = 2.3MMM
Affiliated Restricted 2MMM
Public Float 315MM

10.31.2005
OS = 2.6MMM
Affiliated Restricted 2MMM
Public Float 534MM

11.28.2005
AS = 20 billion
OS = 2.8MMM
Affiliated Restricted 2MMM
Public Float 774MM

12.5.2005
Affiliated Restricted 2MMM
Public Float 900MM

1.11.2006 OS = 2.9MMM
1.20.2006 OS = 3.4MMM
1.23.2006 OS = 3.7MMM
1.30.2006 OS = 3.6MMM (120MM retired in buy back)
2.09.2006 OS = 4.2MMM
2.23.2006 OS = 4.9MMM
3.22.2006 OS = 7.9MMM
3.31.2006 OS = 12.2MMM
4.05.2006 OS = 13.7MMM
4.13.2006 OS = 15.8MMM
4.18.2006 OS = 18.5MMM
5.30.2006 OS = 20.8MMM

[Wink]
s'cit em, wally...

Anybody dispute these numbers?
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Here this is in case anyone missed it? Speaking of launches:

New Screen TV Launches As National TV Channel on AMC-10 Satellite

OCALA, Fla., Apr 03, 2006 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Vision Works Media Group, Inc. (Pink Sheets:VWKM) and wholly owned subsidiary New Screen Television, Inc. announce that New Screen Television launched nationally on Saturday, April 1st, 2006 at 8:00 PM via the SES-Americom AMC 10 Satellite.
"The launch of the national signal feed of New Screen TV enables viewers across the entire continental U.S. to enjoy New Screen TV," said Mark Astrom, New Screen TV's President. "This is a tremendous moment in the company's successful growth and expansion. New Screen TV is now available to any and all satellite, cable and fiber-to-the-home system operators in the U.S. New affiliates will join Optical Entertainment Network, Auroras TV, and Eagle Broadband as a part of New Screen TV's growing roster of affiliates. Distribution via the SES-Americom AMC-10 satellite fulfills one of the major goals toward meeting the company's stated ultimate goal of monthly income of $2,000,000 from the sale of New Screen TV as a basic channel to affiliates across the U.S."

New Screen TV has been able to make the move after switching from a local-only broadcaster to a nationally distributed 'basic cable' channel in Q1 of this year. The channel's signal is distributed via the SES Americom AMC-10 satellite to cable, satellite and fiber-to-the-home systems around the U.S. New Screen TV is a 'basic channel' on these systems that is available to all subscribers.



http://www.stockwatch.com/swnet/utilit/utilit_snapsh_result.aspx

Click the link above

Now what do you see from April 3, 2006 through were we are now? How much did the PPS move even on the days that traded close to and above 2 BILLION shares. Once again FACTS.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Salesmanship huh .....

I simply call it the way I see it .But I tell you what ...You don't have to buy it and I don't have to sit on the sidelines and watch foolish statements being passed through these threads that paint a false picture for newbies . Negative and positive information is very important to assemble an intelligent decission to buy or not buy a stock . However , ....now and then I see people assume things and throw it in as fact .....

Like the part about calls that never get through ...LOL
Small companies have to prove themselves and don't want to spend 20 % of their working time answering the phone to scared and nervous penny stock traders demanding to know ...." are you a real company " ," are you thinking to reverse split " or " when is the next PR coming out " . Try bugging one of these companies that actually does answer the main business line { always set up to switch to a company message } and see how long before the receptionist stops answering and turns the company message on .

And tell me.....why did I even have to explain that ..

Now if you want to keep implicating this company as a failer and scam ....I guess thats your thing .

I like to see people descussing the facts and leaving asumptions out of it .....I guess thats just my thing .

PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
Great work guys, I like your objective points of view.Some day we shall all see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Johnny Rotten, nice to point out the Nigerian scam, I told them it's a scam because the Nigerians are known for scams.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Intimatrader:
Salesmanship huh .....

I simply call it the way I see it .But I tell you what ...You don't have to buy it and I don't have to sit on the sidelines and watch foolish statements being passed through these threads that paint a false picture for newbies . Negative and positive information is very important to assemble an intelligent decission to buy or not buy a stock . However , ....now and then I see people assume things and throw it in as fact .....

Like the part about calls that never get through ...LOL
Small companies have to prove themselves and don't want to spend 20 % of their working time answering the phone to scared and nervous penny stock traders demanding to know ...." are you a real company " ," are you thinking to reverse split " or " when is the next PR coming out " . Try bugging one of these companies that actually does answer the main business line { always set up to switch to a company message } and see how long before the receptionist stops answering and turns the company message on .

And tell me.....why did I even have to explain that ..

Now if you want to keep implicating this company as a failer and scam ....I guess thats your thing .

I like to see people descussing the facts and leaving asumptions out of it .....I guess thats just my thing .

PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS

cool...

post some facts

JR way ahead of you on DD, Wally killing it on "facts" as far I can see...

assumptions? ya, I do assume you're up to no good...haven't figured it out, yet...

but your posts raise the hair on the back of my neck...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
From Post by Intimatrader:

However , ....now and then I see people assume things and throw it in as fact .....

"Like the part about calls that never get through ...LOL
Small companies have to prove themselves and don't want to spend 20 % of their working time answering the phone to scared and nervous penny stock traders demanding to know ...." are you a real company " ," are you thinking to reverse split " or " when is the next PR coming out " . Try bugging one of these companies that actually does answer the main business line { always set up to switch to a company message } and see how long before the receptionist stops answering and turns the company message on ."

Isn't this an assumption as to why they don't answer their phones? Whereas it is a FACT that they don't answer their phones.

Just trying to get the facts straight.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Wow ...your fast TEX .....I just posted that seconds ago .

Thats a good sign ....I like inteligent people that post .

Did not mean to sound negative twards you . I just have a fast wit . Must have been the part about the phone calls . I can tell you many of the small companies do that .

One more thing ...I think it's great to get into some strong descussion on a posible good company ....as we are not playing monopoly here .....This is our real money ........Risk againt gain I really like what I see in the company .....The positive apears far stronger than the negative ...Thats all

PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS

[ June 10, 2006, 23:08: Message edited by: Intimatrader ]
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
BuyTex, why would it matter what Wally say? Do you have confidence in this stock or not or do u rely on others to make your choice?
Maybe you should do your own DD.

I have $10,000 invested in this stock and bought all shares at .0001. Therefore I am not worried the least bit, someday I will either double my investment or as I hope make alotta moulah!!! I am in no rush, could wait 5 yrs. I dont mind. All I know is that this stock will move some day down the road.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Wow Wally,

All you have done is give the same information we have had for months. Nothing hidden one single bit.

All projections I have used are after the dilution.

1 million in profit / 30 billion OS X 20 pe = .0009

Refute those numbers. Those were done fully knowing about the dilution.

Then you ask why pps did not go up after launch on the satellite and you know the answer already, dilution.

All of my projections were premised "If dilution ceases", go back and read my posts.

Now to the next set of numbers you can't touch.

Current market cap is less than 3 million dollars at .0001. If they have revenues of ten million then enterprise value is 3-5 times current market cap.

That is cheap, the thing about any .0001 stock is that any revenues over 5 million make it cheap. There are stocks you own or have owned with 5-20 million in losses that trade close to a dollar and you pump them every single day.

Now you say the burden of proof is on the company. I agree transperancy is important.

We have verified on the OEN website New Screen is part of the lineup and you have seen it and acknowledged you saw it. Now, it is one thing to call VWKM a liar but are you now saying OEN is a liar too. You see I have satisfied my dd that they have indeed had or do have a contract with OEN as stated in the PR. Where is there an ounce of proof that that contract is no longer Valid?

Even after verifying through an independent website you continue to bash away as if you know for a fact they are a scam.

But to satisfy my own need to know I have placed e-mails to all three groups, VWKM, OEN, and Phonoscope to see if New Screen is still a valid company.

I have not heard back one iota from any of them. Surely if New Screen pulled out they would want it known. They have not confirmed anything.

Give me new information if you have it because I have seen every argument you presented, and it is my contention that if they launch with OEN as a viable concern they will not stay at .0001.

Unless the bashers or other companies who want to see them fail scare everyone out of it. Is that what you are here for, to scare us? If you know they are a scam tell us with clear evidence. Dilution is not evidence of a scam.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
wheee...lottsa questions...

will answer, in turn
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Wally ...

It is a fact ...some small companies don't always answer the main line as often as we would like .

It is a fact some small companies are scams .

It is a fact some are not .

It is a fact some of these small companies do not pick up the main line as often as investors would like { for the reasons I stated before '

I work for such a company ...it is real { as my paycheck is real ...

Hope that clears it up for you Wally ...

And say hi to beaver ....
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
My answers in ital, in thread:

quote:
Originally posted by Intimatrader:
Wow ...your fast TEX .....I just posted that seconds ago .
well, I can be fast--often it takes it me awhile to collect my thoughts
Thats a good sign ....I like inteligent people that post .

Did not mean to sound negative twards you . I just have a fast wit . Must have been the part about the phone calls . I can tell you many of the small companies do that .
lol, missed the "fast wit." You can tell me "many of the small companies"? how is it your 'fast wit' equates to poor diction? Ok. ok.....lol, "tell me" the similar small companies...

One more thing ...I think it's great to get into some strong descussion on a posible good company ....as we are not playing monopoly here

[i]good, then we'll get along fine. As you mention later "real money"


.....This is our real money ........Rish againt gain I really like what I see in the company .....The positive apears far stronger than the negative ...Thats all

PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS


 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
quote:
John,

I see the CEO's name in several spots around the 'Net...he *does* seem to get around. Will say this: a google search of his "name + defendant" has not turned up any results.

LOL, *that's* a good sign...

Yet... wally has posted some points, which to me seem to be brushed aside. That's not a good sign...

Wasn't it you who posted sumpin like "I'll believe the PRs" ??

well, anybody can pay to put out "PRs" on the 'Net...

As you say, "some are real and some are not."

You also mention by allusion XKEM: seasoned traders are playing that as momentum play, swing play, whatever you wanna call it... but you equivocate it with the apologia, well "This is not anymore of scam than..."

On the other hand? you have posters *on this thread* claiming to be willing to tie up 1200 bucks, for TWO years...

We have lottsa newbies, every week. We have lottsa members who never/hardly ever post; we have even more lurkers...

knock, knock...

you *seem* to like DD--call the company, the CEO...send somebody to check em out. Who's the TA? anybody talked to them?


make sense?


I have tried to contact the company and have called the TA on more than one occasion.

Since you mentioned XKEM, why did you not mention BIGN, and Black out media, all have CEO's or officers who have been turned in to the SEC without being prosecuted.

Hundreds of pink sheet companies who have the same reputation, yet you still invest.

If Astrom is a scam artist why did you acknowledge a search + conviction turns up nothing?????You have not one ounce of proof it is a scam. Tell buyers to beware of all pink sheet companies because 90% are pump and dumps. You know it and I know it and the SEC knows it.

That does not mean the 10% are not worth our investments.

If you don't want to buy don't buy.

I have done 90% of my DD because people called this a scam and I wanted to know, do you know what I have come up with? They are still in the programming guide


Refute that.



http://www.getfision.com/

quote:
By the way, if you are into DVRs (Digital Video Recorders), FISION will offer an optional set-top-box that will offer up to 80 hours of storage capacity for your recording enjoyment! Plus, FISION will carry Hispanic programming featuring channels such as GALAVISION, TUTV, DISCOVERY en Español, Sopresa, Telefe, Cine Latino, TV Chile and UNIVISION, just to name a few. [B] FISION will also provide you with new and unique channels that are not offered by any other provider in Houston such as New Screen TV, [B/]The Sportsman Channel, MavTV and WealthTV, in addition to ethnic programming in 13 different languages. In short, you will have more television programming choices for your hard earned dollars.



 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
Wow Wally,

All you have done is give the same information we have had for months. Nothing hidden one single bit.

All projections I have used are after the dilution.

1 million in profit / 30 billion OS X 20 pe = .0009

Refute those numbers. Those were done fully knowing about the dilution.

Then you ask why pps did not go up after launch on the satellite and you know the answer already, dilution.

All of my projections were premised "If dilution ceases", go back and read my posts.

Now to the next set of numbers you can't touch.

Current market cap is less than 3 million dollars at .0001. If they have revenues of ten million then enterprise value is 3-5 times current market cap.

That is cheap, the thing about any .0001 stock is that any revenues over 5 million make it cheap. There are stocks you own or have owned with 5-20 million in losses that trade close to a dollar and you pump them every single day.

Now you say the burden of proof is on the company. I agree transperancy is important.

We have verified on the OEN website New Screen is part of the lineup and you have seen it and acknowledged you saw it. Now, it is one thing to call VWKM a liar but are you now saying OEN is a liar too. You see I have satisfied my dd that they have indeed had or do have a contract with OEN as stated in the PR. Where is there an ounce of proof that that contract is no longer Valid?

Even after verifying through an independent website you continue to bash away as if you know for a fact they are a scam.

But to satisfy my own need to know I have placed e-mails to all three groups, VWKM, OEN, and Phonoscope to see if New Screen is still a valid company.

I have not heard back one iota from any of them. Surely if New Screen pulled out they would want it known. They have not confirmed anything.

Give me new information if you have it because I have seen every argument you presented, and it is my contention that if they launch with OEN as a viable concern they will not stay at .0001.

Unless the bashers or other companies who want to see them fail scare everyone out of it. Is that what you are here for, to scare us? If you know they are a scam tell us with clear evidence. Dilution is not evidence of a scam.

Give Me a break. Everything you say is prefaced with IF. IF everyone in the world sent me a dollar I would be rich, so therefore my projections for net worth are Billions of dollars.

As to the contract, show me where NSTV is guaranteed any money? They are not. The contract is to carry NSTV's programming. They make money from the subscriptions to thier programming. When they decide to let us know how many households have subscribed we will then be able to determine revenues. I never said they weren't available through OEN or anyone else. I never said OEN was lying. OEN had nothing to do with the projections made by VWKM.

Just how do you come up with a PE of 20? I don't know of any subpenny company that warrants a PE of 20.

Presenting facts is not bashing.

Bashing/Pumping is stating baseless predictions and allegations. As to whether it's a scam or not, I am on record on this thread as saying I'm not sure but that the actions and inaction do make one wonder. I too have done my DD it just doesn't square up with yours. Let those that read be the judge once they have done their own DD.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Intimatrader:
Wally ...

It is a fact ...some small companies don't always answer the main line as often as we would like .

It is a fact some small companies are scams .

It is a fact some are not .

It is a fact some of these small companies do not pick up the main line as often as investors would like { for the reasons I stated before '

I work for such a company ...it is real { as my paycheck is real ...

Hope that clears it up for you Wally ...

And say hi to beaver ....

Yes it's true. Yet a company that never answers the phone is soon out of business.

The beave says Hi.
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Yes .....Tex

Indeed collect your thoughts .

So that you can find the fast wit you seem to have over looked .

While the rest of us post our thoughts ..you may look them over for spelling errors .

PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Wally ...my company seldom picks up the main line .

After 21 years of business doing that ..their still in business ...

And Wally ...I'm talking about the main line ..Most companies have more than one line . Obviously they answer the phone to do business .
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by shall143:
BuyTex, why would it matter what Wally say? Do you have confidence in this stock or not or do u rely on others to make your choice?
Maybe you should do your own DD.

I have $10,000 invested in this stock and bought all shares at .0001. Therefore I am not worried the least bit, someday I will either double my investment or as I hope make alotta moulah!!! I am in no rush, could wait 5 yrs. I dont mind. All I know is that this stock will move some day down the road.

Shall143, help me out here. You are the same shall143 that posts on Ihub aren't you? Why the pump here.

Posted by: shall143
In reply to: rrufff who wrote msg# 3961 Date:5/28/2006 11:48:34 AM
Post #of 4187

Perhaps we could file a class action law suit agains't the company and the owners. For misleading and defrauding investors and misrepresentating and fefimation of character of the company with misleading PR's filled with lies, etc.
I would put up $5k of my own cash in helping out, so lets rally together and make it happen. I am ready to move foward with it.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
JR queries:

quote:
If Astrom is a scam artist why did you acknowledge a search + conviction turns up nothing?????Y
actually? My search phrase was "name" + "defendant"

not sure how you got confused....perhaps you can shed some light on that thought process..


Why do I mention "if Astrom is a scam artist"?

Lol, I mention as "full disclosure..."
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Intimatrader:
Wally ...my company seldom picks up the main line .

After 21 years of business doing that ..their still in business ...

And Wally ...I'm talking about the main line ..Most companies have more than one line . Obviously they answer the phone to do business .

And you know this HOW? (VWKM not answering the main line but answering secondary line) Could you show me where they have a separate business line? You speak of dealing in facts yet you use supposition to back your answer.

Wow, I've only been working for 35 years now and have worked for many companies over the years and have yet to work for one company that published a phone number for contact that would not be answered. I guess all these big and small companies I worked for were dysfunctional.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
quote:
Give Me a break. Everything you say is prefaced with IF. IF everyone in the world sent me a dollar I would be rich, so therefore my projections for net worth are Billions of dollars.

You bet it is, if they were not diluting 10 billion shares the 2 billion in volume would have moved their pps.

If dilution stops then 2 billion in volume on good news will move this stock.

I am glad you acknowledged OEN is real and the contract real.

I agree we aren't guaranteed subscriptions, but you haven't read the press releases carefully, it says we are part of a basic package which tells me we may not have an individual subscription but get paid anytime someone orders a basic package.

quote:
OCALA, Fla., Mar 27, 2006 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Vision Works Media Group, Inc. (Pink Sheets:VWKM) and wholly owned subsidiary New Screen TV, Inc., the new independent film-dedicated TV channel, have announced a signed agreement with Eagle Broadband for distribution of the New Screen Films on Demand Channel by Eagle Broadband in Texas, Nevada and California. Today's contract is in addition to last week's announcement that Eagle Broadband will be delivering the New Screen TV Channel to their entire subscriber base.
The channel goes to all, the Films On Demand is subscription based.

They make money on all basic packages.
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Wally ......What can't you figure out ..?

Not to be mean ....but most small penny companies have more than one line . Some of the smaller companies simply choose to not not answer the main line as often as you might like .

Give me a break ......Not a headache .
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Found this on another board:

Aurora Stumped By Mystery Of VWKM Projected Revenue:

By: marek163
27 Apr 2006, 01:38 AM EDT

got this mail from aurora: WE DID SIGN A DEAL TO PROVIDE NEW SCREEN TV AS PART OF OUR SERVICE, BUT WHERE THAT REVENUE FIGURE CAME FROM IS A MYSTERY TO ME.
- - - - -
View Replies »
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Intimatrader:
Wally ......What can't you figure out ..?

Not to be mean ....but most small penny companies have more than one line . Some of the smaller companies simply choose to not not answer the main line as often as you might like .

Give me a break ......Not a headache .

You say as often as I might like. I and many others that have been in this stock for quite sometime now and have continually tried calling and leaving messages. The phone has not been answered once. I guess I am asking a bit much that a company should answer their phone. GEEZ what was I thinking.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Intimatrader:
Wally ...my company seldom picks up the main line .

After 21 years of business doing that ..their still in business ...

And Wally ...I'm talking about the main line ..Most companies have more than one line . Obviously they answer the phone to do business .

see...???

that's what I'm talking about..

smoke n mirrors

"my company seldom picks up the main line."


DOH! just doesn't make sense....

pure and simple...

sounds like teen-agers getting caught
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
This board is heating up, haven't seen so many posts on this board in one day for quite some time.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Do you really think Aurora is going to discuss the deal with someone?

At least people acknowledge a deal was signed. LOL.

It is possible they have an investors line and give other phone numbers to business contacts. If someone calls and leaves a message they are interested in returning the call they return it.

I can't confirm the revenue numbers but am not surprised if overstated, BIGN originally said they would do 125 wells but now have 2 months later, people still invest in it. Most pink sheet, OTC overstate revenue projections. I could name many companies that have.

I have some accounting experience so I am fairly good at seeing bad numbers that are stated as maximum potential, that is why I figure numbers myself based on my experience.

100 million in yearly revenue is high to me but 10 million is reasonable. 1.6 million households in houston, if we get 500 k in two years and do well with VOD I think 5-10 million per year is very achievable.

If you made .25 cents per subscriber per month you make 125K per month = 1.5 million per year from that one market. Plus VOD.

Why would 10 million from 10 markets be a stretch. That is why I use 10 million with 1 million in profit.

I pretty much expect all struggling companies or start ups to overstate revenue projections or list them on the high end.

To me anything over 5 million in yearly revenue will move the pps pretty easily.
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Enough on the phone call post . It's starting to get idiotic . I study and research stocks and do very well. Do not want to go back and forth with " beavis & butthead " that all penny companies are fakes and scams for never answering the main line . Get one of the direct numbers to the ceo or vice president and argue it out with them . I work for one of these companies so I already undestand that some choose to place the company message on the main line ...Besides ...why let it bug you . Leave a message and try not to sound like you sound here ....Maybe they'll get back to you .
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
I'd like to talk about what might be in the next PR's .

I think they will anounce they have found a production studio and office space in or near the hollywood / north hollywood .burbank area .

I think we may see word of actual revenue now in.

I think obviously the signing of more affiliates .

Confirmation of the divi being payed and perhaps a mention of possible share buy back .

PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
These are the most eye popping numbers so far. Eagle broadband is in a growing market.

http://****.tmcnet.com/****/tom-keating/voip/eagle-broadband-and-globecast-iptv- complete-triple-play-solution.asp

quote:
Multimedia Research Group is projecting the global IPTV market will grow from 2 million subscribers in 2004 to 26 million in 2008

I don't know how many eagle has. Anyone know?
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
quote:
I work for one of these companies so I already undestand that some choose to place the company message on the main line ...Besides ...why let it bug you .
more spin: as I understood it, the calls were not being answered at all. Not a case of presenting the company line...


"why let it bug you?"

lol, are you saying this is *gonna run*

or are you saying this will gradually move up and be a "long" play?
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by shall143:
BuyTex, why would it matter what Wally say? Do you have confidence in this stock or not or do u rely on others to make your choice?
Maybe you should do your own DD.

I have $10,000 invested in this stock and bought all shares at .0001. Therefore I am not worried the least bit, someday I will either double my investment or as I hope make alotta moulah!!! I am in no rush, could wait 5 yrs. I dont mind. All I know is that this stock will move some day down the road.

Why? cuz I like Wally's questions.

confidence in this stock? not yet..

rely on others? lol, are you a complete and utter newbie?

You want me to DD? you sure?

You put up 10k? so you're not worried...kewl Had you put up only 5k, would you be a lil bit worried? (hope you get the logic...)

you *know* it will move?

cool--all I am asking is why...you've seen a similar scenario play out before? you have inside skinny? Please share...
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Maybe they are on the road and no one back at the office.

It isn't like they have a storefront.

My understanding is that OEN was a garage operation in the beginning. When someone is on the road the garage phone doesn't get answered.
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
Maybe they are on the road and no one back at the office.

It isn't like they have a storefront.

My understanding is that OEN was a garage operation in the beginning. When someone is on the road the garage phone doesn't get answered.

They actually operate out of the "Historical Marion Theatre" at 50 Magnolia South, Ocala FL.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Yes I know, but it doesn't mean they don't go on the road.

Look, prove they are a scam and I will acknowledge it.

This from 2002

Eagle declares Victory as its first
all IP-based community

By Susan Rush
from CED Broadband Direct, July 26, 2002

Eagle Broadband is marching full-speed ahead with its fiber-to-the-home initiative. Texas' Victory Lakes master-planned community will be the company's first all IP-based community.

Eagle Broadband has completed its basic FTTH installation and is getting started on the delivery of Bundled Digital Services to the community, which sits 30 miles south of Houston. Eagle Broadband already has given Victory Lakes homeowners access to fiber-based high-speed Internet connectivity, digital television, local and long distance telephone service and security monitoring. By initiating Phase II of its build out, Eagle will soon enable the delivery of more than 200 channels and full video-on-demand capabilities. Eagle Broadband recently inked a deal with Warner Home Video to access Warner Home Video's first-run feature movies, library content and live events for VOD distribution over Eagle's IP-based fiber network.

The Victory Lakes community will be the first to gain access to the Warner Bros.'s content.

Eagle Broadband has contract with six other master-planned communities to deploy its FTTH architecture and BDS package. It is the company's goal to offer full IP services in communities where it has deployed its BDS package.

Earlier this week, Eagle Broadband posted a comprehensive loss of $2.4 million, or 4 cents a share, including an unrealized holding gain of $208,000 in the latest quarter. Including an unrealized holding loss of $1.2 million in the year-ago quarter, the company's comprehensive loss was $2.9 million, or 4 cents a share.

Eagle has been preparing their fiber optics for at least three years.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
"It isn't like they have a storefront."

really? It's a publicly traded company...why *don't* they have a storefront?
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Johnny, I am not saying that they are a scam, all I am saying is that they never answer their phone and do not return calls to those who leave messages.

That in itself does not make them a scam.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
Johnny, I am not saying that they are a scam, all I am saying is that they never answer their phone and do not return calls to those who leave messages.

That in itself does not make them a scam.

but it certainly raises questions...
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BuyTex:
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
Johnny, I am not saying that they are a scam, all I am saying is that they never answer their phone and do not return calls to those who leave messages.

That in itself does not make them a scam.

but it certainly raises questions...
Yes it does,not that they are the same kind of company, but just a short while ago another TV stock did not answer calls from it's shareholders and were apparently always out on the road spending the shareholders money. Oh well that's another story but a lesson well learned.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
quote:
it certainly raises questions
Yeah like why aren't you answering the phone.
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
LOL....... Good one [Big Grin]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
quote:
it certainly raises questions
Yeah like why aren't you answering the phone.
Me personally? I don't answer the phone when I'm trying to avoid the bill collectors.
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
wallymac, pay your bills man!

Some of us (me) wouldn't have a phone if it weren't such a necessity of life anymore. If callers can't leave a message then it must not be so important (to me).

Not answering phones is no way to run a business. Unless... messages from 'shareholder-needs-to-know-right-now' are put on the back burner? I don't know.

People calling CEOs and then posting about it, that's a problem. Everyone wants that 'hot tip' for a leading edge. Really, if I had an inside tip, the last thing I would do is post it. My sad reality, I wouldn't put money on the tip, either. But once it was made public, I'd be there before you.

This stock is still an enigma (to me). Throwing down 10K??? I would worry. But I'm still (cautiously) hopeful on this one.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
I think TickTrader spoke well.

I personally wouldn't post about any stock if it wasn't for the need to balance information. If you own the stock you don't want people bashing it into the ground.

Most group plays and momo plays are scams. What happens is a group buys millions of shares and lets it quietely double or triple on the groups volume, then they try to sell but there aren't enough buyers to cover that number of shares at the higher price.

So after the run up they do a pump campaign til the shares are sold off. Then the pump ends with bagholders holding shares they can't sell.

VWKM is quite the opposite. It is on bottom. No one is going to make money til news comes out and I cannot create the news. I am not part of a group so I can't artificially inflate the price and I don't have the time or money to run an ad campaign.

I have done some more searching on Mark Astrom, I think he just wants to become a movie producer. He has been a part of a couple of films in different capacities and is trying to get his dream off the ground.

Is he not answering the phone because of bill collectors, investors bugging him with the same questions? Who knows.

One thing I found was that their studio became fully automated in 2005, which means they don't have to be at the studio, they can plug it in, set the timers in the program, and let it run. They have the ability to run ads and make some revenue without being there.

They bought the movie theatre to show films to groups interested in independent films like going to the movies. So they have film festivals and viewings for the public and for groups of film buffs.

In my searches I have found nothing but a guy who wants to launch into the movie business.

Here is an msn search.

http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?srch=105&q=mark+astrom&first=1&FORM=PPRE

He attend a photography/cinema school in NY, tried to film some movies, has made some contacts and started a production studio.
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
OK u all say this stock has 20BB shares in the float right? How many investors do you all think own this stock? Let's say 200k different investors own it and if 8% of them call that would be how many calls going through to a small company? That would be 25,000 calls and only god knows if it's a day, week or month. Anyway u slice it, that's way too many calls for a company of this caliber to answer the calls. Do you want them to issue more shares to pay someone to answer all those phone calls? Calls are annoying, I personally hate answering the phone unless it's an important call. It's the same reason why I dont own a cell phone.

So give the company a break, now if they dont put out a PR within the next 45 days then I could see some of you guys being upset because I know you have money invested and want to see a return. Do u all act this way when your broker invest your money and the investments go down?

Remember it's a penny stock and some penny stocks takes time. I was once in a stock at .0001 and it went to .005, believe the ticker was HDMP. I dd quite well in this stock. Not saying VWKM will do the same because no one knows, we all are hoping it goes to the moon. We are all gamblers playing the stock market and maybe fighting addiction to be investing in this one here.

But best of luck to you all.

Remember the Nigerian scam was also trading under a penny last year. Every thing takes time, but first needs to put a plan together then execute it precisely.

$10,000 Strong!!!!!!
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
If there's that many calls and you're fighting overhead? get an answering machine or that voice mail the phone company offers:

"Press 1 to leave a message for Mark"

"Press 2 to describe your indie film project"

"Press 3 to listen to FAQ for investors."

****
quote:
One thing I found was that their studio became fully automated in 2005, which means they don't have to be at the studio, they can plug it in, set the timers in the program, and let it run. They have the ability to run ads and make some revenue without being there.
JR, now that's interesting...stuff like that? I think it would be helpful to provide the link...
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
BuyTex and who is going to respond to the messages, would you like to fiels dome of the calls or return some of the calls from hungry investors?
I am sure the company has better things to do and spend money on than to have someone sit in the office and answer stupid redundant questions all day long.
If you dont like the company just take the high road and invest your money elsewhere. I really believe things will unravel for many of us better than we expect. IMO
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
Here are some links for you all, I will start to do some more extensive DD on this company and compile it to present to the board. Not sure how long it will take since I am quite busy finishing up the construction on my new home.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=MARK+ASTROM&btnG=Google+Search

http://www.ocala.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060327/NEWS/203270356&SearchID =73247345856374
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
La Times search:

http://www.latimes.com/search/dispatcher.front?target=blendedsearch&Query=new+sc reen+
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
http://en.thinkexist.com/quotes/mark_astrom/

http://www.ajc.com/search/search/new+screen+television/UnifiedSearch?query=new+s creen+television&collection=site
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Ok ...very good and thanks .

That's what I like to see ....research , factual information and extensive DD .That along with a strong clear mind let's me evaluate the value of the stock , the intrinsic values and growth potentials of the company .

My portfolio looks very good and I continue to do very well but I would still feel better if I get another 10 mil of VWKM .
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
quote:
JR, now that's interesting...stuff like that? I think it would be helpful to provide the link...

Here is a list of Press releases before becoming VWKM.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/search?qt=Church+Street+Station+orlando&tb=art&qf= free&x=0&y=0&sn=90

and link to automation.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2005_June_13/ai_n13809782

quote:
The Company has purchased an automation system that enables the New Screen TV programming to be fully automated and allows for commercial insertion. The system has been bench tested and running uninterrupted and with zero down time and zero failures for eight weeks.



 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
From Johnny Rotten:
"I personally wouldn't post about any stock if it wasn't for the need to balance information. If you own the stock you don't want people bashing it into the ground."

The main reason I have posted is to try and give some balance to this issue. I have backed up what I have stated with facts. I posted because this board is read my many people and a lot of newbies. When I started reading the to da moon, .15 and above, this thing is going to explode, I've put 5,10,15K into this posts and saw no DD to back what was being posted, I stepped in. I do own this stock and at one point was very optimistic of it's future. I believe in it's vision and the technology. As you said Mark just wants to be a movie producer. There in may lies the problem. His interest is in making his dream a reality and not neccessarily taking care of business.

The investors that are unhappy and question the validity are not at fault. Mark is at fault because his projections created unrealistic expectations. He talked of how important shareholder value and confidence was and then stopped communication with shareholders once he devalued the stock.

If you read my posts without, emotional attachment to this stock, you will see that I have continually stated that IF this company does move it will be long term not as some have suggested, within days weeks or months.

If some call this a scam it's because Mark's actions have given them reason to be suspcious. If you look at one event individually it can be chalked off to any number of reasons but once you put the whole body of events together the scale begins to weigh in the favor of things not adding up.

Let me ask one question as to the latest info we were given.

Do you see the 15% dividend as a gift/reward from the company or as further dilution?

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Not any of those .....

But rather a very practical move by the company . Unless you disagree with the PR's you will see that the dividend should be easily paid for by a portion of projected revenue to be actual revenue . And not as a mere reward or gift but a sign of confidance and stability with a very probable buy back to follow . I certainly do not think it to be another method of diluttion since they have set themselves up for the pervect buy back situation and think at some point they will announce it .
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
quote:
Do you see the 15% dividend as a gift/reward from the company or as further dilution?

I see it as dilution with a twist. It decreases cost per share basis of the stock by 15%. If I hold through a buyback for instance my cost per ownership % will be less than someone who did not get the divvy.

I wasn't that thrilled with the divvy but it is better than a poke in the eye.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Intimatrader:
Not any of those .....

But rather a very practical move by the company . Unless you disagree with the PR's you will see that the dividend should be easily paid for by a portion of projected revenue to be actual revenue . And not as a mere reward or gift but a sign of confidance and stability with a very probable buy back to follow . I certainly do not think it to be another method of diluttion since they since they have set themselves up for the pervect buy back situation and think at some point they will announce it .

For someone who continually asks for facts that is a lot of speculation. There is absolutely nothing to suggest a buy back is in the works.

If it were, then we should look at how the last buy back was accomplished, history of the company is a fact which needs to be taken into consderation, it would be a small buy back for appearance followed by further dilution. Previous Company buy back: 120M shares were retired on 1/30/2006 making the O/S 3.6B within 9 days another 600M shares were issued. Followed by another 16.5B shares being issued.

No matter how you wish to look at what will occur in the future, the fact is that on June 15th an additional 3B shares will be added to the O/S. Anytime shares are added, for whatever reason it is dilution. In this case the major factor holding this PPS at .0001 is dilution and adding to it is not a solution.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
I agree dilution needs to stop for pps to go up. I think it would be irresponsible to give a divvy knowing you need to sell shares to keep the business going.

Either the company has reached a place where they no longer need to sell shares so they can pay us a little, or the divvy is worthless and a backhanded gesture.


401K shares dilute your employers stock but nobody gives back their 401K.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Wally says

quote:
The main reason I have posted is to try and give some balance to this issue. I have backed up what I have stated with facts.
I appreciate that, when people tear into dd to try to figure it out all end up better off. Whether pro or con.
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Wally ....I'm not saying they are going to do a buy back .I'm saying ....I believe there is a very strong chance they will do a buy back .

The reason I don't want to call the 15 % dividend a " back door " form of dilution is because it is very clear to me they might be getting ready to announce a share buy back .

Wally ..you have said you see nothing indicating a possible buy back . I see eveything pointing to an announcement of a share buy back . I'm not saying it is going to happen .I am saying everything is pointing to it .

I'll put it this way .....The chances for a share buy back look very good .
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Intimatrader:
Wally ....I'm not saying they are going to do a buy back .I'm saying ....I believe there is a very strong chance they will do a buy back .

The reason I don't want to call the 15 % dividend a " back door " form of dilution is because it is very clear to me they might be getting ready to announce a share buy back .

Wally ..you have said you see nothing indicating a possible buy back . I see eveything pointing to an announcement of a share buy back . I'm not saying it is going to happen .I am saying everything is pointing to it .

I'll put it this way .....The chances for a share buy back look very good .

Please tell me why you so strongly believe a share buy back is comming. What is it that you see that points us in that direction? The reason I ask and have a difficult time understanding that is, why issue more shares if you plan to buy them back? Doesn't that in effect negate a buy back?

I do agree that people discussing the Pro and Cons of a stock is a good thing. I like that we have been able to discuss this stock without all the personal insults being thrown back and forth like so often happens. I do apprciate that.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Time will tell if I am right or not ...

A company can buy back shares then produce a dividend by giving away those shares rather then retire them . So why can't a company produce a 15% divi in shares that increases share count to also finance current details in signing of affiliates to create revenue that buys back shares bringing down share count and bringing up share value . They are showing bold confidance that their projected revenue will become actual revenue .If they are wrong we all lose .If their confidance pays off and they are right we will see large revenue and an increasing revenue stream .Theres no middle ground here ....no small profits to imagin ....the company will either fail or make it big { as in big profits }.

Risk against gain this is one heck of an interesting stock { i.e. company } .
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
Intimatrader, I agree with you. I was thinking along the same line, why so much shares in the float and continue to announce "no reverse split".
Maybe they have confidence that we dont know. Reminds me of SIRI with a big float and it went over $7.00 a share, so if this is a hit it could do the same or better.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Shall SIRI has an O/S of just under 1.5B compared with VWKM which will be 23B on Thursday. Big difference. Also you are attempting to compare a Nasdaq stock with a Pinksheet. Big difference. Just like apples and oranges.

Let's at least attempt to keep it real.
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
if BKMP, USXP, GZFX, etc can move then V W K M can certainly move. Even BIKO has moved, so that goes to show there's hope........
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Well at least you comming down to earth now. I have never said it will not move only that it will be that much harder for it to move.
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Wally ...VWKM is aware that their o/s will be 23 billion on thursday . They are aware that their stock sits at .0001 . They are aware that people are wanting positive news and to see more PR's soon . They are aware that people now want to see projected revenue turned into actual revenue . They are aware that revenue could be used to buy back shares in a continueing process to knock down the o/s . They are aware that .0001 is the best price for a buy back . They are aware that the lack of PR's after projected revenue's might lasp the stock price { and it has } .

IF .....the revenue is now here .....then they are ripe for a buy back . It will build confidance in the stock , increase share price , lower the o/s and prove the companies intentions on increasing value .

PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS [Cool]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
I'm glad you are on the inside to let us know what is going on, since no one from the company does.

I hope you are right and have gotten that from a good source.

Being aware of something and actually doing something about it are 2 completely different things.

Because of how they have handled things in the past I will take the wait and see attitude.

Question: If they issue the 7B shares that are left in the treasury after the dividend will it change your perception at all?
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by shall143:
BuyTex and who is going to respond to the messages, would you like to fiels dome of the calls or return some of the calls from hungry investors?
I am sure the company has better things to do and spend money on than to have someone sit in the office and answer stupid redundant questions all day long.
If you dont like the company just take the high road and invest your money elsewhere. I really believe things will unravel for many of us better than we expect. IMO

*reference post*
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6328424.html

http://www.mediarights.org/news/2005/09/14/new_screen_television_see_great_indep endent_media_and_get_your_work_seen_submit_now.php

http://www.mediarights.org/search/?host%5B%5D=localhost%3A212&keywords=new+scree n+television&x=30&y=5


http://www.mediarights.org/search/?host%5B%5D=localhost%3A212&keywords=new+scree n+television&x=30&y=5http://www.mediarights.org/search/?host%5B%5D=localhost%3A2 10&keywords=new+screen+television&x=21&y=6
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BuyTex:
quote:
Originally posted by shall143:
BuyTex and who is going to respond to the messages, would you like to fiels dome of the calls or return some of the calls from hungry investors?
I am sure the company has better things to do and spend money on than to have someone sit in the office and answer stupid redundant questions all day long.
If you dont like the company just take the high road and invest your money elsewhere. I really believe things will unravel for many of us better than we expect. IMO

*reference post*
[bump]
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Nervous .....?

Not me .....nerves of steel I have . And oh what a way with stocks . The market been very very good to me . [Cool]
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
wide open spaces, fresh air - that gets rid of anyone's nervousness. Cramped places bother me sometimes, though.

Hey, Tex, I'm still trying to figure out the rules here, too.
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Just sit back and relax on this one .If you bought at .0001 or .0002 you have nothing to worry about with this one .
 
Posted by trade04 on :
 
lol this stock is like a wish fountain, toss your pennies in and never get em back. has anyone tried to sell * .0001?
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
nICE LITTLE trade just went through, this week should see good volume by now and friday.
 
Posted by hbomb on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Intimatrader:
Why would anyone sell at .0001 ...Thats retaded.

"Retaded"??? If you're going to be critical at least learn how to spell....
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
ROFL, dude dont the best of us make typos?
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
DOW seems to be headed for under 10k while VWKM going to go up!
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Not a bad day. Still 6 mm's at .0001.

Hopefully we will get news soon.

I did not get a response from either company on my e-mails.

I think they are launching soon and may have already in some venue. Waiting for them to clue us in.

The announcement of revenues should pull us to .0002 at least. It has pent up frustrations like a marine in his 12th week of boot camp.

Hopefully good news will let her run hard.
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
Nothing new on the news front but I thought I would paste the website for anyone who has not seen it. Check out the link on the top of the page to the Orlando Journal story

http://www.vswm.com/index.html
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
are we shocked yet? been trying to sell at .0001 wouldn't budge
 
Posted by shall143 on :
 
you will get to sell next week at .0001 and take your a-- on to the next winner.
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
Why would you want to sell * .0001? I understand the frustration but come on. They just started expanding. Why would you want to jump out now?
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
I'm not knocking your choice to sell. Just curious about your reasons.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Shocking.....
 
Posted by Forrest on :
 
getting 15% tomorrow????
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Yep.

Level 2 changed also. Went from 5 on ask at .0002 to three at .0002.

They probably knew nothing was going to happen or they took it off the table in case it runs higher.
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Divys anyone?
 
Posted by hbomb on :
 
No MM's on the bid, 7 on the ask at .0001 and zero volume...what a POS
 
Posted by Lauralai on :
 
How disappointing not to see the new shares this morning! Anyone care to hazard a guess as to when the new shares will actually show up and put this beast in the green for me?
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
I'm sure it won't be until the end of day to show up in your account Friday morning
 
Posted by duke on :
 
Surprise! My ameritrade account shows my 375,000 free shares.Maybe they will be worth something some day.glta.
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
My are there with no symbol yet
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
I got mine.

Let's see if we get a pr now. Can't accuse the company of pumping this past month.

Divvy proves they are still in business.
 
Posted by CMoney on :
 
Got mine from Scottrade Margin acct
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
VWKM - Vision Works Media Group, Inc. New Common Stock

Declaration Date:

-- Ex Date:05/30/2006

Record Date:06/01/2006

Payment Date:06/15/2006

Dividend Type:

Stock Dividend or Split Dividend Amount:

15% stk
Notes:

Refer to the D/L of 5/16/2006, Dividend shares will be restricted.


This is what was first posted on the OTCBB daily list. SometimeAfter the announcement and posting of info on OTCBB it was changed to the above. RESTRICTED STOCK.

VWKM - Vision Works Media Group, Inc. New Common Stock

Declaration Date:

-- Ex Date:05/30/2006

Record Date:06/01/2006

Payment Date:06/15/2006


Dividend Type:

Stock Dividend or Split Dividend Amount:

15% stk
Notes:

--
 
Posted by sev278 on :
 
I don't see any dividends in my Etrade account yet. When are they supposed to appear? anyone know? thanks in advance & I hope this puppy makes a summer run to .0005!
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
If they are restricted do we know for how long (1 year)?
 
Posted by ballyman on :
 
Not seeing mines in eTRADE either, hmmmm, oh well, it ain't gonna go anywhere for awhile anyhow. Let it sit and collect cobwebs.

Ball
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
I got my dividend on Scottrade. Now I need all the millions of bucks they keep bragging they will have.
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
You got it on your current real time Dig?
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
Ya it shows in my account.
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
ready to be shocked!

not being a total smarta**...........

I'm in this for 1M shares. So come on
SHOCK ME!
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
Mine shows in my Ameritrade account without a symbol beside it?
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by vicki:
Mine shows in my Ameritrade account without a symbol beside it?

same in scottrade
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
Same with Etrade as well.
 
Posted by Schwabie on :
 
holding 10 MM + divy... who knows what it'll be worth in a year?
 
Posted by Forrest on :
 
Just had a new baby girl....hope when she's 18 and off to college this will pay for it or at least the gas to get her there..lol
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Wow ! [Big Grin] Congrats on the baby girl .

When she is 18 she may not need to go to colledge . That investment in 18 years will surely be awesome .
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
The shares are restricted. They are untradable. I use Scottrade and am pretty sure that they will not hold restricted shares in any account. They will mail us the certs and then a year or more from now, if they are worth anything, We will have to go through the process of converting them into free trading shares. This usually involves getting a letter from the company attorney with a recommendation to lift the restriction. There is also a fee involved.

Forrest, congratulations on your new baby girl.

No other comment on the company.

GooD LucK
WallY
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
I don't think the shares were meant to be restricted .That might be just a temparary clitch . If it is an error than they must be working on lifting the restriction .
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
I really feel this is a good stock { i.e.company } . I'm not to worried about the .0001 we sit at ....because that was our opertunity to get in at a great price . It might sit for awhile and a need jump start ...But thats not bad ...thats part of getting a great stock at great price . When it starts to move I think side liners will jump { their just waiting to see movement first } . I still say ..just relax now and let time work it's magic . [Cool]

PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS

[ June 21, 2006, 05:11: Message edited by: Intimatrader ]
 
Posted by Skyman on :
 
Somebody prove the company still exists.
 
Posted by Schwabie on :
 
Well, I for one got the divy... that's a sign that the company is still there
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Got mine too. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by indef on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fishfarmer:
Got mine too. [Big Grin]

which one?
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
One of the things that make this stock attractive is they keep repeating, no reverse split.
 
Posted by indef on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fishfarmer:
One of the things that make this stock attractive is they keep repeating, no reverse split.

lol
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Oh say can you see by the dawns early light------------ [Wink]
 
Posted by HorseRider on :
 
The dividend shows in my MBtrading account as VWKMDZ which I think is either a temporary designation or a restricted designation
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Oh say can you see by the dawns early light------------ [Wink]
 
Posted by HT on :
 
The dividend shares show up as N/A in Ameritrade. That seems a little strange.
 
Posted by beechwood on :
 
Scottrade won't allow a buy on this stock.
Says to contact broker to purchase.
What gives?
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
To trade electronicly you have to have a bid and ask on your streamer. Tecnical issue, but they don't charge for the broker assistence. [Wink]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
From I HUB board.
Posted by: Captain Caniption
In reply to: Tradetalker who wrote msg# 4238
Date:6/21/2006 10:02:57 AM
Post #of 4330

TT, Seaghost, Steel, others:
I just talked with Jim Schuster, the Sr. VP at Crawford. TT's story is right on. He confirmed that he had a phone call from another investor a couple of weeks ago.

According to Schuster, Mark and crew showed up on Thursday May 25 to pick up his servers that "needed some maintenance". Said he'd be back on Monday. Crawford hasn't seen them since. Mark owes Crawford a bunch of money and had a payment due. Schuster said, "it seems they've disappeared."

So ladies and gentleman. There has been no New Screen TV on the air since the May 25 server raid. Schuster said that there were no competitors that he was aware of carrying the New Screen TV signal and that they have a pretty small community. He was pretty sure that he'd know if the signal was on air again.

Chalk it up to experience folks. On to a new game... where's Marky??? Whoever finds him first let us all know.
*************************************************

Posted by: gosteel22
In reply to: None
Date:6/21/2006 10:28:01 AM
Post #of 4330

this is what i got with AURORAS


In response to your question below from the Auroras Entertainment website:
we do have a signed transport agreement with New Screen. We are still in
the planning stages and while we are building out our plant, we have not yet
launched our transport service.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
I think the crawford comm story seems a little strange, why would a company have their own servers at crawford when their building is somewhere else? Crawford is a large host with all they need.

What periodic service does a server need, that you pick it up.?

The auroras story seems closer to reality in my opinion, but who knows.
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
I just went out to the website and noticed the tv schedule only goes to 5/17. Not sure if they are just slow with updates or what.

http://www.newscreen.tv/p_sche/e1_details.html
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
Sorry 5/21
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
I think the crawford comm story seems a little strange, why would a company have their own servers at crawford when their building is somewhere else? Crawford is a large host with all they need.

What periodic service does a server need, that you pick it up.?

The auroras story seems closer to reality in my opinion, but who knows.

Invest a dime and call them yourself before down playing someone else's DD.

I see it so often. I've done DD on other companies and someone comes along and says: "i Can't believe it". Then they proceed to write post after post saying they don't believe it.

There is only one way to prove something wrong. Call yourself. Since this isn't just one person stating it I tend to believe it coupled with the lack of PUMPING PR's, that were so prevalent prior to May 25th.

Everyone, do your own DD make your own calls. A dollar spent could save you hundreds or thousands lost.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Madvillain on :
 
This company is a joke, don't waste your time and money with this steaming pile.

Mad
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Call 1-407-401-8935
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
uptick!
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Okay NOW I'm shocked! Never thought I'd see .0002 again.

Jo
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
WE be loooonnnngggggggg on this one [Frown]
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
Fish - Who will the 407 number listed above get us?
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
For vwkm.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Crawford Communications and its services, call (404) 876-7149 in Atlanta or toll free (800) 831-8027. The company can be found on the Internet at www.crawford.com.
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Scottrade gave me the no.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Did you call? Did you leave a message?
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Left a message about 30 min. ago.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
I called Vision Works and got a recording. Left a message.

One thought on the post from the VP of crawford.

Said we have a small following so I guess they are up and running somewhere.

Would that be correct?
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
I called Vision Works and got a recording. Left a message.

One thought on the post from the VP of crawford.

Said we have a small following so I guess they are up and running somewhere.

Would that be correct?

Forget it, the messages go unanswered. I have been leaving messages for weeks and still no answer. Earlier in this thread there was alot of discussion about that very subject: messages = no answers [Big Grin]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
I called Vision Works and got a recording. Left a message.

One thought on the post from the VP of crawford.

Said we have a small following so I guess they are up and running somewhere.

Would that be correct?

That's not what he said. He said they(companies) are a small community and he would have heard if New Screen Signal was being carried elsewhere.

I suggest you or anyone else contact Crawford Communications to verify.
 
Posted by beechwood on :
 
I stopped by their office yesterday.
A tiny place at the end of a strip mall.
There was a sign out front but no
furniture inside...
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
It's been sitting at 0 for a while now. Not looking good for the home team.
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
The lights are on but nobodys home LMAO
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
Maybe they loaded up the truck and they moved to Beverly.... Hills that is... Sorry that was the Beverly Hillbillies.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
I don't want to be a party pooper for you guys but,

leaving a message on the phone does prove the phone isn't disconnected.

When you went to the strip mall what city were you in? They moved to a new location in February.

quote:
OCALA, FL – February 28, 2006 – New Screen Television, Inc. has announced that the company has successfully completed its move to its new headquarters at the Historic Marion Theatre in downtown Ocala, Florida.

“Broadcasting a nationwide independent film TV channel from a 1940 movie palace is remarkably close to poetry,” said Mark E. Astrom, New Screen TV’s President. “We have wanted to do this for quite some time, and with our successful expansion to new, nationwide ‘basic cable’ operations, we felt this was the perfect time to move ahead.”

New Screen TV recently expanded from an Orlando, local-only TV channel to a nationally available channel that transmits nationwide via the AMC-10 satellite owned and operated by SES Americom.

I'm not giving up yet.
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
Just for grins I called the fax number and got a fax machine
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
I just called the Marion Theatre and got a box office recording.
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
I went to the website and sent an email to the address asking if they had any businesses operating in the theatre and if so, could they tell me who. info*themariontheatre.org
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
What ..a company can't take a breather from PR's ....
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
This is why the story about the servers sounds fishy.

quote:
“Broadcasting a nationwide independent film TV channel from a 1940 movie palace is remarkably close to poetry,” said Mark E. Astrom, New Screen TV’s President. “We have wanted to do this for quite some time, and with our successful expansion to new, nationwide ‘basic cable’ operations, we felt this was the perfect time to move ahead.”


They were to broadcast from the theatre not from Crawford.

This from a crawford press release

quote:
Answering the growing demand for niche programming, SES AMERICOM and Crawford Communications today announced they have launched four new digital channels in the last six months. The duo's one-stop-shop origination and distribution solution leverages Crawford's leading post production and broadcast facilities and SES AMERICOM's state-of-the-art AMC-10 satellite to provide even the smallest of networks with the most advanced a la carte or turnkey capabilities.

New channels like Eye Music Network and New Screen TV can now cost-effectively tap a full suite of programming creation and delivery services to quench viewer thirst for specialized programming. The comprehensive solution includes master control, play-out, ad and live feed insertion, domestic and international teleport services, C- and Ku-band transportable earth stations, studio and remote video production and editing, design, and animation.

and

"New digital channels can launch and build nationwide audiences without a studio, staff, or single piece of production gear


You don't need production gear.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2006_April_9/ai_n16120138
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
This is why the story about the servers sounds fishy.

quote:
“Broadcasting a nationwide independent film TV channel from a 1940 movie palace is remarkably close to poetry,” said Mark E. Astrom, New Screen TV’s President. “We have wanted to do this for quite some time, and with our successful expansion to new, nationwide ‘basic cable’ operations, we felt this was the perfect time to move ahead.”


They were to broadcast from the theatre not from Crawford.

This from a crawford press release

quote:
Answering the growing demand for niche programming, SES AMERICOM and Crawford Communications today announced they have launched four new digital channels in the last six months. The duo's one-stop-shop origination and distribution solution leverages Crawford's leading post production and broadcast facilities and SES AMERICOM's state-of-the-art AMC-10 satellite to provide even the smallest of networks with the most advanced a la carte or turnkey capabilities.

New channels like Eye Music Network and New Screen TV can now cost-effectively tap a full suite of programming creation and delivery services to quench viewer thirst for specialized programming. The comprehensive solution includes master control, play-out, ad and live feed insertion, domestic and international teleport services, C- and Ku-band transportable earth stations, studio and remote video production and editing, design, and animation.

and

"New digital channels can launch and build nationwide audiences without a studio, staff, or single piece of production gear


You don't need production gear.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2006_April_9/ai_n16120138

Instead of making assumptions, why don't you contact Crawford yourself and verify what is happening?
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
Is it posible they have found new office space and a studio in or near hollywood .....And they are in a frenzy to move their operations there as quickly as posible ...to minimize the desruption in company activity . If they found a new location maybe they wanted to re-locate first then put out a PR to that effect ...To combine it with other positive news for greater impact on company value .

Just an idea ...What you think ?
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
I think you if things to death...

Do as Wally suggests...get some facts and post them.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
You and Wally can do the same, why don't you make the call and post.? If you have already made the call why post under a different name on IHUB.

Just come out and say what you know.

Unless you are afraid of being wrong or going to court.

[B]Also, it is possible that one company would cut out the other if going into the same market.[B/]

Did you know Crawford Comm is also trying to move into the independent film market?

Might be some cut throat going on.



Crawford Conforms Indie Feature, Harvest of Redemption
ATLANTA (June 22, 2005) - Crawford Post Production, a service area of Crawford Communications, Inc. and the largest post production operation in the Southeast, has completed final post production services on the independent feature film Harvest of Redemption. The film, written and directed by Javier Chapa, was inspired by a true story that took place in the Rio Grande Valley in Texas during the 1920's. This period piece is a coming of age story about Oscar, a young Latino's struggle to face the challenges of manhood and confront the haunting demons of his past. In Harvest, the audience watches Oscar as he grows up and attempts to overcome the resentment incurred after witnessing the brutal murder of his father as a young child. Oscar's journey is threaded by the vivid and real colors of life including love, hate, faith and revenge. In the end, Oscar walks away with a lesson that no man can teach his son, but rather a son must learn himself. In that lesson comes redemption.

Due to the Texas Valley heat and dust, the 24-day shoot was long and grueling. The Panasonic Varicam high definition camera was used in the making of the film and performed flawlessly. Chapa was especially pleased with the variable frame rate feature of the camera which allowed him to overcrank certain scenes for slow motion effects. Chapa downconverted his source tapes to standard def and off-lined on a Final Cut Pro HD edit system. Crawford Post Production took over from there, importing Chapa's offline from a fire wire drive. Final HD conform, HD 3-D effects and compositing, rotoscoping, title pass, color correction and 5.1 surround sound mix took place at Crawford over a one-month period.

“The professionalism and work ethic at Crawford allowed us to raise the bar in the independent film world and compete in the demanding arena of Hollywood," said Laura Perez, one of the producers of Harvest. "I am profoundly impressed with the quality of Crawford's outstanding work."

Chapa was especially impressed by Crawford's da Vinci 2K Color Corrector, which he utilized for the movie’s final HD tape-to-tape color enhancement. “After working on the da Vinci, it is hard for me to imagine ever wanting to color correct with any other system," stated Chapa. "When you combine the da Vinci's capabilities with an experienced colorist like Crawford's D.C. Cardinali, there are no limitations as to what you can do." Cardinali has worked with directors Francis Ford Coppola, John Landis and other legends in the entertainment industry.

Kathleen Fitch, Post Operations Manager at Crawford, worked closely with Chapa to determine each step of the post production process. Jim Bowhall, a visual effects artist at Crawford, created all 3D HD effects. Crawford’s Ron Heidt, an industry expert in high definition, handled HD mastering, effects compositing and removal for the film. Heidt operates both an Avid DS/HD edit system and the HD Hybrid suite at Crawford, a linear/non-linear room that is resolution and frame-rate independent and contains random-access digital disk recorders, in-suite HD projection and 5.1 playback. Greg Crawford created the 5.1 sound design, all foley work and the final surround sound mix for the film.

“Crawford Post Production empowered me to create a film that is superior in the marketplace,” concluded Chapa. For more information about Harvest of Redemption, go to www.harvestofredemption.com.

“Everyone at Crawford really enjoyed working with Javier on Harvest,” said Bill Thompson, vice president of post production. “He was very pleased with our efforts and we are already preparing to post his next movie.”

About Crawford Post Production

Crawford Post Production has been providing independent filmmakers, documentary makers, and TV series producers with creative, high-end editorial, graphics, effects, color correction, sound design and audio mixing services since 1981. The company has finished hundreds of long-form projects including Academy Award winners, finalists, semi-finalists and nominees; Sundance Film Festival winners and other festival winners; Peabody Award winners, national Emmy award winners and more. Crawford has posted a dozen indie features and docs in the last year with many more on the way.

The company currently offers six HD edit suites, five 5.1 surround sound rooms, film to HD transfer, HD tape-to-tape color enhancement, motion graphics, animation, effects, compositing, DVD authoring, HD format conversions, duplication, standards conversions, compression services and more. Crawford is very experienced in HD workflows and providing HD & 5.1 deliverables for theatrical or broadcast. Several virtual post solutions are available for remote session supervision via the web, satellite or fiber transmission. The company employs some of the most highly skilled, award-winning artists, post coordinators and technicians in the industry.

For more information about Crawford Post Production and its services, please call (404) 876-7149 in Atlanta or toll free at (800) 831-8027.
Jun 22 2005 by Juliett Husted

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© 2004 Crawford Communications, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Might be some unfriendly competition going on or Crawford will use New Screen to do a lot of its work.

Who knows.
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
955,000 shares sold in the 37th minute
(15:37:00-59)
I have it trade by trade, if we can keep that pace, a million a minute we might do something!
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
183,699 shares * .0699
 
Posted by Intimatrader on :
 
I have hundred million shares now EGG ....Want to hold most of it for long term . The silence by the company { no recent PR's } is interesting ....But that does not in itself mean something negative . What is your best guess at what is going on ?

And when do you think the next PR might come ?

PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
This stock isn't going to do much til someone confirms they are still in business with contracts.
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Egg Inspector:
955,000 shares sold in the 37th minute
(15:37:00-59)
I have it trade by trade, if we can keep that pace, a million a minute we might do something!

quote:
183,699 shares * .0699
The 2 above posts were posted erroneously. I was in the middle of a fast and furious XKEM run and hit the wrong buttone....TWICE!

Sorry
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Intimatrader:
I have hundred million shares now EGG ....Want to hold most of it for long term . The silence by the company { no recent PR's } is interesting ....But that does not in itself mean something negative . What is your best guess at what is going on ?

And when do you think the next PR might come ?

PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS

thanks for asking [Smile]

I try to track down as much as I can, if not about the position, then their neighbor, bio's of owners, etc...there really isn't anything to find on this company since the announcement May 17th about the stock dividend, and the 'new screen TV' info...

Let me chack something..
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
folks, I started poking around. I have some interesting information. right now it is all hearsay, because there is no contact with VWKM to confirm the information.

I don't know if I am finding something new to us, or old, but with the silence, no PR's coming out, I thought something felt wrong.

the following is what I found. it is mostly hearsay, and opinion, but it is backed up by several investors beginning to take action with the SEC
*************************************************
this page has post after post concerning this VWKM / New Screen TV issue

ref.link;
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=4336
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from the silicon investor community board.
a post:

the positive:

ref.link;

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=22480758

To: rrufff who wrote (598) 5/23/2006 10:04:23 PM
From: Creede Bighorns

New Screen TV(TM) Discovers Way To Convert All Their Furniture To Gold; To Generate Additional $2.4 Billion Monthly

OCALA, Fla., May 23, 2006 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Vision Works Media Group, Inc. (Pink Sheets:VWKM) and wholly owned subsidiary New Screen TV, Inc., the new independent film-dedicated TV channel, have announced a signed agreement with Oprah for distribution of the New Gold Furniture Line.

Mark Angstrom, New Screen TV's President said, "We were very surprised to learn that our stock pile of furniture could be easily converted to gold. We have a whole lot of furniture, since when I go to remote locations, I always sell enough shares to buy plenty of furniture. We are so thrilled at the amount of gold furniture converted, that we are going to give a gold coffee table dividend to every VWKM shareholder that is on record when we do our reverse-split."

New Screen TV's, New Screen Films on Demand now has is able to put their programs on a fantastic number of systems.

New Screen TV is the first truly independent film channel that can convert it's furniture to gold.

Company reiterates to its shareholders: "Company policy is no reverse stock splits."

THIS IS A BOGUS PR IN THE LOCAL PAPER THERE. IMHO it was to throw of pressure that has been building there.
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the negative:

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=22561538

another post:

Posted by: Captain Caniption
In reply to: Tradetalker who wrote msg# 4238 Date:6/21/2006 10:02:57 AM
Post #of 4317

TT, Seaghost, Steel, others:
I just talked with Jim Schuster, the Sr. VP at Crawford. TT's story is right on. He confirmed that he had a phone call from another investor a couple of weeks ago.

According to Schuster, Mark (Mark Angstrom, New Screen TV's President and crew showed up on Thursday May 25 to pick up his servers that "needed some maintenance". Said he'd be back on Monday. Crawford hasn't seen them since. Mark owes Crawford a bunch of money and had a payment due. Schuster said, "it seems they've disappeared."

So ladies and gentleman. There has been no New Screen TV on the air since the May 25 server raid. Schuster said that there were no competitors that he was aware of carrying the New Screen TV signal and that they have a pretty small community. He was pretty sure that he'd know if the signal was on air again.

Chalk it up to experience folks. On to a new game... where's Marky??? Whoever finds him first let us all know.
GB-ND
c
Vision Works Media Group, Inc. (VWKM)/with and through its wholly-owned subsidiary New Screen Television, Inc
Trading Symbol
VWKM
COMPANY CONTACT
Mark Astrom, President & CEO (also Pres. of VWKM)
Phone: 407.401.8935
Fax: 407.843.5997

COMPANY MAILING ADDRESS
50 South Magnolia Ave.
Ocala, FL 34474
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another post:
To: jmhollen who wrote (603) 6/22/2006 8:20:39 AM
From: Creede Bighorns


Want to hear something really bizarre? VWKM just gave millions of shares away in a dividend with a BID of 0! They are worthless.
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ANOTHER POST: (LOOK HOW THEY REFER TO IT AS A pos LIKE IT'S JUST NORMAL)

Posted by: penny_ta
In reply to: None Date:6/19/2006 8:48:35 PM
Post #of 4434
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Here is the main post that started all this:

ref.link;

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=11610197

Posted by: Tradetalker
In reply to: seaghost who wrote msg# 4224 Date:6/15/2006 11:16:22 PM
Post #of 4434


Seaghost, Captain, others holding out hope (I know Creed's not):

I talked to Crawford three weeks ago, and again this morning. Mark was up there to do some maintenance on his servers. They talked with him for a while, artsy guy, made sure he had access and help needed, then went about their business. Next thing they know he's gone, and guess what - he took his servers, plus the monitors. They were giving him free rack space too. Now he's behind two months. He signed a 5-year deal. No servers, no signal picked up by the famed AMC 10. No programming can be watched by anybody, even in Houston via OEN. A ghost ship.

I sat on this for almost a month thinking he'd be back with those servers. My apologies, that was selfish but I was in denial. I couldn't see throwing this kind of info out there before knowing for sure. Repeated calls to no avail. Crawford's out a lot of money. The 15% was an effective delay tactic. This may have been orchestrated from the beginning. My guess is that Rick's success was a problem for Astrom sr. (whose office was across the square in Ocala). He was actually building a great company. Maybe Mark and Naseem had no active role - just got steamrolled by him. Maybe he'll be back with those servers. Maybe someone will ride in and pay Crawford. I cannot believe they would conciously rip us off (naive midwest roots).



** VWKM...some technical musings...

As I've gotten stuck in this pig like the rest of us....I still like to look at the chart to see what's brewing.
BKMP looked dead at 0.0002 for months...and it ran to 0.001 recently. I can list dozens of subpennies like this.

So what's up with VWKM?
Well, for one, the EMA20 and SMA50 are getting much closer together. The MACD is also rising towards 0. Volume has dropped off to nothing.

Judging by the MACD and PVO - I would expect there to be some action in about 2 weeks or so. We may see a tick to 0.0002.

We'll see.
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here is a post that supposedly gives it away. being a newB I'm not sure how restricted shares make it proof.

ref.link;

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=11612480

Posted by: Captain Caniption
In reply to: None Date:6/16/2006 8:20:28 AM
Post #of 4434


Restricted Shares?

While there was absolutely no mention of restricted shares being issued for dividends in any press release that I'm aware of, I just found this on:

http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/company_profile.jsp?symbol=VWKM

Current Capital Change:
Stk. Div.=15%. Dividend shs to be restricted
Ex-Date: 2006-05-30
Record Date: 2006-06-01
Pay Date: 2006-06-15

Note that the dividend shares to be restricted.

Well folks - I've joined the other half. I used to be in the first half - "those who are GOING TO LOSE money on the pinks". Now I'm in with the "those who HAVE LOST money on the pinks".

All I can say now is GO RSHN!!!!! I need you to make it back for me.
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some feel very strongly:

ref.link;

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=11613778

Posted by: TallRob0
In reply to: Captain Caniption who wrote msg# 4245 Date:6/16/2006 9:35:53 AM
Post #of 4434

im sorry but I have to laugh,,,,,what a mass F-U!,,,,its sueing time boys and girls
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email to the Orlando business journal:


Here is what I emailed to the Orlando Business Journal


Hi,

You have promoted a company, New Screen TV or Vision Works Media, in several articles in your Journal in the past year. I and a group of shareholders who are invested and some who have large sums of money invested in this company would like your help.

It seems that New Screen has fallen off the face of the planet as their programing has stopped and no one can contact any of the people there at the station. We are at a loss to what has happened and very worried about this.

Could one of your reporters check into what is going on with this company and report whether we have been scammed out of our money or what may have happened? The company has been reporting through Press releases over the last 6 months multiple deals, revenue streams etc. and many people invested based on these reports.
Thanks you for your help.

____________________________________________

http://orlando.bizjournals.com/orlando/aboutus/help.html

If some people want to also send in their concerns it will add more weight to the matter with the newspaper. So instead of just spilling your concerns here, take the time and lets aggressively pursue this mess.

Now is the time to walk the walk.

Seaghost
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in the following they are referring to VWKM

ref.link;

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=11799636

Posted by: gosteel22
In reply to: None Date:6/28/2006 1:29:35 PM
Post #of 4434

i talked to the T/A today they told me that they are still in business.

ref.link;
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=11847498

Posted by: Chowme Demoney
In reply to: None Date:7/1/2006 1:23:31 AM
Post #of 4434

For all we know their affiliates are in on this. The SEC are the only ones that can really tell us what is going on. Does anyone know how to go about this through the SEC?


Posted by: sakkcomny
In reply to: bigdannyboy454 who wrote msg# 4393 Date:6/27/2006 10:05:47 AM
Post #of 4434

This POS is worthless. Don't waste your time. I think this and PAIM are the some company in diguise. What a bad joke. PINKS STINKS
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
ANOTHER POST: (LOOK HOW THEY REFER TO IT AS A POS LIKE IT'S JUST NORMAL)

Posted by: penny_ta
In reply to: None Date:6/19/2006 8:48:35 PM
Post #of 4434

Posted by: Maxwell123
In reply to: lifegear who wrote msg# 4414 Date:6/29/2006 7:35:05 PM
Post #of 4434

the silence means that this company is a POS and is going out of business....if they can't afford a PR then well think about it.....i almost hope there is a reverse split which would mean there might be some life left in this dying dog......OLD YELLER....WHERE ARE YOU AT BOY?

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Posted by: seaghost
In reply to: Chowme Demoney who wrote msg# 4433 Date:7/1/2006 2:19:34 AM
Post #of 4434

Well there you go , start putting the pressure on vwkm by writing or calling the author.

Christopher Curry may be reached at chris.curry*starbanner.com or (352) 867-4115.

The SEC would be good in addition to this first step, I believe there is a complaint form you can fill out online at the SEC website.

Oh yea and I claim one of those monitors for my payback.

Probably best to write both the ocala and orlando papers.
 
Posted by SmoothTrader on :
 
EGG .. that stuff sounded kinda negative and kinda full of it ...What is that ..super bashing and tag team bashing from other sites ...That could confuse newbies .

Bottom line ......Those weired negative post are false ..right ?
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
smooth, I don't know. All know me. I am no basher. I am a newB also. As I read and read, IMHO there is a lot of truth to this. the -all of a sudden-restriction on the DIVI shares, the non-availability of Mr. Astrom. Do your DD. Check for yourself. See if NEW SCREEN TV is up and running. I am still a newB and have limited DD skills, but all that i read seemed not to be bashing to me, but legitimate angry concern for their investment and what they thought was a solid forthright company. ALL MHO of course.

Egg
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
kinda sounds like guys trying to do DD, huh?

anybody tried duplicating their efforts?
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Just reading this thread from the beginning would be start. Don't believe what I have written or what you read here or anywhere else.

Use it as information to start your own DD. There are munbers posted for Crawford communications. Call or email them. Call and email the VWKM(New Screen TV) see what happens. In other words verify it for yourself.


SMOOTH: Please define BASHING for me? I get the feeling you use that term without knowing whether there is any truth to what was posted. People Sharing DD whether negative or positive is one of the big reasons boards like this exist. I know that many people who own stock don't want anything negative to be posted and call it Bashing to discount it's worth.

I made a decision to buy this stock back in Feb. Maybe I should have done more DD prior to the purchase. As I have stated here before. That was my mistake and I won't be a part of duping others into buying just so I can get out.

Other than the outrageous PR's what is there that would cause you or anyone else to buy this stock now.

1) The dilution that took place which now puts the O/S at approx. 24 Billion?

2) The fact that they haven't answered or returned phone calls or emails for months now.

3) The lack of PR's. Especially considering that there wasn't even a PR regarding the actual issuance of the Divy.

4) The Fact that Rick Erikson, the General Manager with the connections to the cable industry and the person most responsible for getting contracts resigned abruptly left the company.

5) The last PR that stated they were going to Hollywood to find an office and studio.

Remember that the rollout was supposed to have happened in early May. 2 months later and nothing.

Just asking.

Wally
 
Posted by SmoothTrader on :
 
I did not mean that Egg sounded like a basher .

The information he dug up sounded like people bashing rather then solid info . How do we know what is true and not true in that stuff .

But it is true we need more information ...I agree .

Wally I sure hope things are ok here and there is a better answer around the corner . You ,I and egg have a investment here .

Whats the truth on the divi ...Is it restricted or not ? And for how long ? When the PR's came out stating the divi I do't recall the word restricted there . But what egg showed us above had the word .

We need possitive info here . Thanks guys .
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
not "possitive"....

accurate...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SmoothTrader:
I did not mean that Egg sounded like a basher .

The information he dug up sounded like people bashing rather then solid info . How do we know what is true and not true in that stuff .

But it is true we need more information ...I agree .

Wally I sure hope things are ok here and there is a better answer around the corner . You ,I and egg have a investment here .

Whats the truth on the divi ...Is it restricted or not ? And for how long ? When the PR's came out stating the divi I do't recall the word restricted there . But what egg showed us above had the word .

We need possitive info here . Thanks guys .

The shares are restricted. Mostly likely for one year. Not that it really matters because selling shares is virtually impossible at this time.

VWKM - Vision Works Media Group, Inc. New Common Stock

Declaration Date:

Ex Date: 05/30/2006

Record Date: 06/01/2006

Payment Date: 06/15/2006


Dividend Type:

Stock Dividend or Split Dividend Amount:15% stk


Notes:

Refer to the D/L of 5/16/2006, Dividend shares will be restricted.


VWKM - Vision Works Media Group, Inc. New Common Stock

Declaration Date:

Ex Date: 05/30/2006

Record Date: 06/01/2006

Payment Date: 06/15/2006


Dividend Type:

Stock Dividend or Split Dividend Amount: 15% stk


Notes:

--
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dividend.asp?sym_id=VWKM&dDate=06/01/2006&sDateType=Rec ord_date

If you notice the first filing has no notes. It was amended on May 16th to show the stock dividend as Restricted. There never was a PR that mentioned Restricted Stock. Not one.
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
quote:
If you notice the first filing has no notes. It was amended on May 16th to show the stock dividend as Restricted. There never was a PR that mentioned Restricted Stock. Not one.
Wally, I don't understand your logic. Are you saying, "there has been no PR about the shares being restricted. I'll believe that when I see a PR", huh?
As if a PR is the definitive proof that something IS or IS NOT a fact?

see below from the Pink Sheets site.

ref. link;
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/company_profile.jsp?symbol=VWKM

quote:
VWKM -- Vision Works Media Group, Inc.
Com ($0.001)

Search for Dun & Bradstreet reports on this company.

Address:
50 South Magnolia Ave.
Ocala, FL 34474
USA


Website: http://www.vswm.com
Phone: 407-401-8935
Fax: 407-843-5997


Business Description:
Television Network

State of Incorporation: Delaware


Country of Incorporation: USA


Officers:
Mark Astrom, President/Secretary

Outstanding Shares: Not Available

Estimated Market Cap: Not Available
Float: 3,103,759 as of 2005-06-22


Current Capital Change:
Stk. Div.=15%. Dividend shs to be restricted
Ex-Date: 2006-05-30
Record Date: 2006-06-01
Pay Date: 2006-06-15

Dividends:

Company Notes:
Formerly=Bonanza Gold Corp. until 8-98
Formerly=GoldEye USA, Inc. until 2-04
Formerly=Sierra Diamond International, Inc. until 4-04
Formerly=ITOS, Inc. until 8-04
Formerly=Satellite Phone Source, Inc. until 4-05


Class Notes:
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 200 split. Effective date=2-14-04
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 500 split. Effective date=4-12-04
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 10 split. Effective date=8-10-04
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 1,000 split. Effective date=6-21-05
Capital Change=shs increased by 2 for 1 split. Payable upon surrender. Ex-date=08/31/2005.


Transfer Agent:
American Registrar & Transfer Co., Salt Lake City, UT 84111

Seems to me that; "If a stock divi was announce in a positive PR- * "hey happy day a Divi! [Smile] " * -

a few weeks/month later the company goes in a major rut and I am forced to make the divi 'restricted' in some way, WHY would I release a PR? if we see any pattern it is; trying to keep screw up quiet, a PR like that says *RED FLAG * RED FLAG *, (EXAMPLE TEXT)"WE AT vwkm ARE IN WORSE SHAPE THAN WE HAVE LET ON"(EXAMPLE TEXT)

No, I disagree with the-'there has been no PR about that'-scale of authenticity. the above post is from The Pink sheets site. They have credibility. IMHO
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
lol, eggie...

wally is merely pointing to the (lack of) credibility--company should put out accurate PRs, full description of divvies, etc...
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
posted by wallymac

quote:
Just reading this thread from the beginning would be start. Don't believe what I have written or what you read here or anywhere else.

Use it as information to start your own DD. There are numbers posted for Crawford communications. Call or email them. Call and email the VWKM(New Screen TV) see what happens. In other words verify it for yourself.

posted by wallymac

quote:
Use it as information to start your own DD. There are numbers posted for Crawford communications. Call or email them. Call and email the VWKM(New Screen TV) see what happens. In other words verify it for yourself.

2 great recommendations wally. I couldn't agree more [Smile]

as I said in my post above; I am a newB, my DD skills are limited. I want this to spur more experience traders to turn over their rocks, consult their sources.
here is my thoughts on DD;
if I am in, with a position in a stock, I have already found enough positive DD to warrant me taking that risk, in my mind. so.... I don't then need to hunt and hunt for MORE positive DD to re-enforce that initial decision ( this sound as if the buyer is insecure about there play, to me).

that said, I try to DD every position I have at least twice in a week. (in other words) go after VWKM on Friday night, start looking, loading at search engines, and follow, follow.
the way this awesome thing we call 'CyberSpace' it usually leads you where you need to go. I just don't stop till I find SOMETHING I haven't heard yet, or something big. now I will go back to VWKM in the 'DD rotation' on Wed.-Thur.

quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
not "possitive"....

accurate...

couldn't agree with you more Tex [Smile]
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
so we are all on the up and up:

I am in VWKM for a very small position

5000,000 shares, in on 9th of JUNE

imagine me last night. finding all this and it was all on the nest at the time I came in...Uugh!

the reason I'm in so small is, I was looking for micro-caps at the time, I liked 3.

JMCP
AWBV
VWKM

I had limited $ and I like to diversify.

so...

JMCP / 2,500,000 shares ---> which i personally thought was #2 of 3, but I liked the most for how well the company was moving into it's sector

AWBV / 1,500,000 shares ---> which i personally thought was #1 of 3. I liked most for the divis and business model, also already well into it's sector

VWKM / 500,000 shares ---> which i personally thought was #3 of 3, but I liked it as a cheap, low risk media play with lots of potential, also i didn't have much in that sector at that time.

OK, i probably didn't need to explain myself in that great a detail, but....I am new, and I LOVE THIS!!
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
quote:

Posted by Egg:

I am in VWKM for a very small position

5000,000 shares, in on 9th of JUNE

< typo that's 500,000 shares >
 
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
 
Egg, what are doing again? LOL
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
lol, eggie...

wally is merely pointing to the (lack of) credibility--company should put out accurate PRs, full description of divvies, etc...

Sorry wally [Frown]

forgive me?
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
VWKM......Soon to shock all

Sort of'a'shock now
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dustoff101:
Egg, what are doing again? LOL

having a conversation with myself, it looks like [Smile]

Tex and wally were just here....I don't know what happened!
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Some keep saying do your dd. Remember this is a pinky and dd on financials isn't available.

A company can boast of millions of contracts on paper while not being able to pay the light bill.

There is no way to dd that.

To invest in a pinky you must be a BS artist. You have to be able to read the pr and determine if it makes sense to you from a business perspective. Things like OS, dilution, divi's can tell you a lot if you have business experience.

If you are a newby small time investor without that knowledge you are just ready to be screwed. Like me. I am gullible, mostly positive and honest, with the attitude they wouldn't really screw us so blatantly would they?

Truth is, some people really would.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
Some keep saying do your dd. Remember this is a pinky and dd on financials isn't available.

A company can boast of millions of contracts on paper while not being able to pay the light bill.

There is no way to dd that.

To invest in a pinky you must be a BS artist. You have to be able to read the pr and determine if it makes sense to you from a business perspective. Things like OS, dilution, divi's can tell you a lot if you have business experience.

If you are a newby small time investor without that knowledge you are just ready to be screwed. Like me. I am gullible, mostly positive and honest, with the attitude they wouldn't really screw us so blatantly would they?

Truth is, some people really would.

Nice post Johnny. You are right when you talk about financials and PinkSheets. Very few will file financial information and then we are left to looking for the signs that shows their true colors.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
 
The odds on the pinks are stacked against the average joe..Wild ratio's of failure and corruption..But we still play um...I am begining to understand how the real money is made on them....But I do not have an offshore account and a minimum $500,000.00 by in to play um short with the big boys. There are some hedge funds you can put your money in that play um from offshore, but, I have heard of people getting their heads tore off, even by perfectly good crooks in those funds...Who in the heck can ya trust? LOL
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
I'd say best bet--based on Wally's post above--is track down this guy:

". . .Rick Erikson, the General Manager with the connections to the cable industry and the person most responsible for getting contracts resigned abruptly left the company"
 
Posted by Relentless Despot on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dustoff101:
The odds on the pinks are stacked against the average joe..Wild ratio's of failure and corruption..But we still play um...I am begining to understand how the real money is made on them....But I do not have an offshore account and a minimum $500,000.00 by in to play um short with the big boys. There are some hedge funds you can put your money in that play um from offshore, but, I have heard of people getting their heads tore off, even by perfectly good crooks in those funds...Who in the heck can ya trust? LOL

Too bad there isn't another tradable market where the profits are just as high if not higher than pennyland.. A market where there is no pump and dump...
 
Posted by SmoothTrader on :
 
This is a very good thread now .We have some great post now from some smart posters and it will help to stay on top of this .

Egg is really on top of any info to be found . I would like to know if anyone here is panicking and trying to sell ....Personaly I can not get myself to put in a sell order at the low of .0001 . My fingers will not let me do it . I keep thinking there could be a very logical explination for the recent lack of PR's . And it really onlt seems like a lack of PR's because they came out with so many in a short period of time there . We got used to PR's Flying out at us .

Anyhow , thank god you guys are here ..I feel better that we are here together in this . Descussing and talking .
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
Is "Intimitrader" gone?
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SmoothTrader:
This is a very good thread now .We have some great post now from some smart posters and it will help to stay on top of this .

Egg is really on top of any info to be found . I would like to know if anyone here is panicking and trying to sell ....Personaly I can not get myself to put in a sell order at the low of .0001 . My fingers will not let me do it . I keep thinking there could be a very logical explination for the recent lack of PR's . And it really onlt seems like a lack of PR's because they came out with so many in a short period of time there . We got used to PR's Flying out at us .

Anyhow , thank god you guys are here ..I feel better that we are here together in this . Descussing and talking .

It won't matter if you hit the sell button. At this point very few have been able to sell at .0001.

I don't know if you are a new trader or not but seeing a stock with No Bid is generally not a good sign.

I read the PR's and found some confirmation of the contracts signed but never the numbers that were being banty about by Mark. I, as many thought this company had a heck of a future that's why we bought in.

Unfortunately whether through mismanagement or simply that this was always a scam, the luster is definately gone. Since the announcement of the Dividend there has been no word or contact with the company. Once again not a good thing when looking to put money into a stock.

Good Luck
Wally
 
Posted by SmoothTrader on :
 
They baned him ...he was my friend .

We don't know why they did it . He has a great sense of humor .Perhaps he said something funny that touched a nerve . He's really a great guy .

I can get a message to him . Just let me know .
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
they baned him?

for having a sense of humor?

that just seems so unlike Allstocks--not fair, given all the friendly banter that goes on around here.

weird...

I got a buddy here, we grew up in the same town, but never met till I started posting here and he noticed my posts.
 
Posted by SmoothTrader on :
 
Yeah ...intimi is very smart ..But he prefers to come off low key and just average in inteligence .But he can really get into a stock and see things that others don't .

Some of us made big bank from his subtle hints about stocks . He is famous for his statement " expect the unexpected " .

He hinted very strongly for me to buy USXP when it was sitting for long time at .0005 and lower . No one wanted usxp and it was bashed awfull ....Intimi said it was very undervalued . He said it was just a matter of time that it would go up .Then it would be over sold and fall back ..

I bought a couple million and made bank { THANKS INTIMI } Your a great friend .

I was about to buy sttk as it was going up .He Hinted not to . I did not and the stock sank big time the very next day . He saved me money there ..I bought WBRS at .027 and sold at .08 as he hinted .

Did you know intimi is pretty serious about VWKM. He says it may sink ..or it my hit big ....But there is no in between . The risk is extremely small at .0001 & .0002 against a more than remarkable possible gain...He says it should be a good short term gain but a huge long term gain .

He his looking into two other low priced stocks right now . But will not tell me more untill he is sure whether to buy or not . He does not want people to lose money on what he says ..so he is extremely careful before he opens his mounth on a stock .

He likes RSHN and he loves DCBI . Both energy drink companies . I am trying to snag some DCBI next week if it hits my price ..it is almost there . Intimi says .10 cents or less is very undervalued for DCBI { it is .095 cents right now }.

He is so darn smart ...He studies what he calls " ghost stats " on a stock . Hard to see details that could make a stock a big winner .

His dad was an atomic scientist and invented something called .....particle beam accelleration ..Or mass-amplifier reactor system . Nasa calls it the M.A.R.S. weapon . Yep ...My friend intimi has big brain .

Can we all bow our heads in a moment of silence for intimi being banned . He is my friend
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SmoothTrader:
This is a very good thread now .We have some great post now from some smart posters and it will help to stay on top of this .

Egg is really on top of any info to be found . I would like to know if anyone here is panicking and trying to sell ....Personaly I can not get myself to put in a sell order at the low of .0001 . My fingers will not let me do it . I keep thinking there could be a very logical explination for the recent lack of PR's . And it really onlt seems like a lack of PR's because they came out with so many in a short period of
time there . We got used to PR's Flying out at us .

Anyhow , thank god you guys are here ..I feel better that we are here together in this . Descussing and talking .

smooth, I am with you... AGREED!
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
off-topic question for smooth:
the thread - "Topic: Smoothie 'response'"

I do not understand the premise. can you explain it to me, in that thread, of course? what are they reading? you (smooth) wrote something? I just don't have a clue. it looked relevant, maybe even important. so I started reading and I don't get it....HELP!
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
I'd say best bet--based on Wally's post above--is track down this guy:

". . .Rick Erikson, the General Manager with the connections to the cable industry and the person most responsible for getting contracts resigned abruptly left the company"

completely agree with Tex here....this Erikson guy would be a gold-mine of DD on VWKM. we could get right to the bottom of it.
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
quote:
I would like to know if anyone here is panicking and trying to sell ....Personaly I can not get myself to put in a sell order at the low of .0001 . My fingers will not let me do it .
I agree...why sell something this cheap...
I am holding till it makes a million,(might settle for a thousand..LOL) or becomes worthless.

my thought is; why did I get in it? for it to turn a big buck right away? No. I knew it would be a slow burn. this 'New Screen' business is a good example as to why a $.0001 per share company is a 'long haul' investment.

and yes....if I am buying into a .0001 stock, I think of it as an 'investment', how could I not.

1. won't make any real $ flipping it.
cause it probably won't be moving any time soon.

2. think about it;

this Mark Astrom, if any of the previously posted info about 'New Screen TV' is true, will be moving on, in so many words. and, in the life of a sub-micro-penny stock isn't this just a blip on the radar screen? If this does become a viable, big board company, won't it take 10 years?

blur...fade into the future....

when we are sitting around counting our Vision Works $millions$ in the summer of 2016, won't this 'New Screen TV' story be a fuzzy, but fond memory,
quote:
like: "remember how worked up we got when that guy, what's his name, came and took all the servers? Yeah, were we still using servers? I didn't think we went back that far.(new technology completely eliminated the need for servers years ago) Yeah and we were looking for a place in, of all places Hollywood! Thank goodness they came to their senses and bought that property in Kissimmee.[laughter] ...

{a side note: more and more TV production is being done in central Florida, since Disney built their studio there and are filming the shows there, my personal opinion is the heart of TV production, series, studio work, etc.. will be in central Florida in the next 10 years}
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SmoothTrader:
Yeah ...intimi is very smart ..But he prefers to come off low key and just average in inteligence .But he can really get into a stock and see things that others don't .

Some of us made big bank from his subtle hints about stocks . He is famous for his statement " expect the unexpected " .

He hinted very strongly for me to buy USXP when it was sitting for long time at .0005 and lower . No one wanted usxp and it was bashed awfull ....Intimi said it was very undervalued . He said it was just a matter of time that it would go up .Then it would be over sold and fall back ..

I bought a couple million and made bank { THANKS INTIMI } Your a great friend .

I was about to buy sttk as it was going up .He Hinted not to . I did not and the stock sank big time the very next day . He saved me money there ..I bought WBRS at .027 and sold at .08 as he hinted .

Did you know intimi is pretty serious about VWKM. He says it may sink ..or it my hit big ....But there is no in between . The risk is extremely small at .0001 & .0002 against a more than remarkable possible gain...He says it should be a good short term gain but a huge long term gain .

He his looking into two other low priced stocks right now . But will not tell me more untill he is sure whether to buy or not . He does not want people to lose money on what he says ..so he is extremely careful before he opens his mounth on a stock .

He likes RSHN and he loves DCBI . Both energy drink companies . I am trying to snag some DCBI next week if it hits my price ..it is almost there . Intimi says .10 cents or less is very undervalued for DCBI { it is .095 cents right now }.

He is so darn smart ...He studies what he calls " ghost stats " on a stock . Hard to see details that could make a stock a big winner .

His dad was an atomic scientist and invented something called .....particle beam accelleration ..Or mass-amplifier reactor system . Nasa calls it the M.A.R.S. weapon . Yep ...My friend intimi has big brain .

Can we all bow our heads in a moment of silence for intimi being banned . He is my friend

so when was he banned?
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SmoothTrader:
They baned him ...he was my friend .

We don't know why they did it . He has a great sense of humor .Perhaps he said something funny that touched a nerve . He's really a great guy .

I can get a message to him . Just let me know .

who smooth? who are you talking about?
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SmoothTrader:
Yeah ...intimi is very smart ..But he prefers to come off low key and just average in inteligence .But he can really get into a stock and see things that others don't .

Some of us made big bank from his subtle hints about stocks . He is famous for his statement " expect the unexpected " .

He hinted very strongly for me to buy USXP when it was sitting for long time at .0005 and lower . No one wanted usxp and it was bashed awfull ....Intimi said it was very undervalued . He said it was just a matter of time that it would go up .Then it would be over sold and fall back ..

I bought a couple million and made bank { THANKS INTIMI } Your a great friend .

I was about to buy sttk as it was going up .He Hinted not to . I did not and the stock sank big time the very next day . He saved me money there ..I bought WBRS at .027 and sold at .08 as he hinted .

Did you know intimi is pretty serious about VWKM. He says it may sink ..or it my hit big ....But there is no in between . The risk is extremely small at .0001 & .0002 against a more than remarkable possible gain...He says it should be a good short term gain but a huge long term gain .

He his looking into two other low priced stocks right now . But will not tell me more untill he is sure whether to buy or not . He does not want people to lose money on what he says ..so he is extremely careful before he opens his mounth on a stock .

He likes RSHN and he loves DCBI . Both energy drink companies . I am trying to snag some DCBI next week if it hits my price ..it is almost there . Intimi says .10 cents or less is very undervalued for DCBI { it is .095 cents right now }.

He is so darn smart ...He studies what he calls " ghost stats " on a stock . Hard to see details that could make a stock a big winner .

His dad was an atomic scientist and invented something called .....particle beam accelleration ..Or mass-amplifier reactor system . Nasa calls it the M.A.R.S. weapon . Yep ...My friend intimi has big brain .

Can we all bow our heads in a moment of silence for intimi being banned . He is my friend

I have been here but a short time. I immediately recognized Intim as someone who stood out. there are a handful, you know them. I am REALLY bummed if this 'banned' business is true. he will be missed [Frown]
 
Posted by SmoothTrader on :
 
Morning Egg . Re: Smoothie response ..

I think he at first thought I was someone else .I am new here . Also ..someone asked when Intimi was banned .He got the boot few days ago ...Last week . He is reading the post everyday right now and is taking this time to look at a few more stocks and growth op.'s .
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SmoothTrader:
Morning Egg . Re: Smoothie response ..

I think he at first thought I was someone else .I am new here . Also ..someone asked when Intimi was banned .He got the boot few days ago ...Last week . He is reading the post everyday right now and is taking this time to look at a few more stocks and growth op.'s .

lol, so this super IQ pal of yours gets banned, then you join up, what, like the next day or sumpin? I don't get the reasoning...
 
Posted by Relentless Despot on :
 
he'll show us.. that's what
 
Posted by SmoothTrader on :
 
I need more time to look at ..

SMMW
VWKM
BKMP
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SmoothTrader:
I need more time to look at ..

SMMW
VWKM
BKMP

the reasoning...I was inquiring about the reasoning...
 
Posted by SmoothTrader on :
 
What are you talking about Tex ?

And I was wrong ..Intimi said he was banned more than two weeks ago . No big deal .he'll live .

What do you think of all three ..SMMW ,VWKM & BKMP .
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
looks like his most recent post was June 28...

You joined a day or so later, yes?

seems odd... don't understand the motivation...
 
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
 
Hows the fishing Rd, Tex ?
 
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
 
RD, whats for lunch?
 
Posted by Relentless Despot on :
 
SMMW ,VWKM & BKMP
worthless, worthless & worthless
next question..
Lunch dusty?.. I'm eating a battered budgie right now
 
Posted by SmoothTrader on :
 
How bout fish ?

Fish is brain ya know .
 
Posted by SmoothTrader on :
 
What are you trying to say Tex ?

Am I the Clark Kent to the " Super intimatrader " ?
 
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
 
Ah' egg salad for me, waiting for chicken to lay the egg.
 
Posted by Relentless Despot on :
 
so the chicken did come first... paradox solved
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SmoothTrader:
What are you trying to say Tex ?

Am I the Clark Kent to the " Super intimatrader " ?

well, according to Ocham's Razor, that certainly would make sense...
 
Posted by SmoothTrader on :
 
Well...I quess that will be mystery then .

Wow ...and I guess that's a big compliment to me .

Thanks Tex .
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
well, it's not the way I'd put it...

will concede the alias--nothing "super," though, lol

just please don't start back with the "if-if-if" stuff, huh?
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
p.s.: and, of course, whatever got you banned...
 
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
 
LOL Self aggrandizing much?

See ya round the boards Clarky.
 
Posted by SmoothTrader on :
 
You might be putting your " big foot " in your mouth there fella . Perhaps I will "Tex " message my friend Intimi and tell him what you guys are saying .

Go ahead and pick on me .....The rest of us will be picking stocks ...When to buy ..when and if to sell & when to go long . We need to work together here ..And not tag team a newbie because he's friends with some one that makes money in pennyland .

Did you get my friend Intimatrader banned Tex ? Shame on you . He would never do that to you . [LIST]

[ July 02, 2006, 20:15: Message edited by: SmoothTrader ]
 
Posted by bluechipper on :
 
That was just a great read, thanks guys. I love the newb spirit and the re-incarnated trader bit. This thread hasn't had this much activity for months. By the way guys, hold on to your VWKM, you may have to take a crap later JK. To cheap to sell, whats the worst that can happen, I lose 100 bucks, hell i've already lost 30o on this so nothing to loose. To clarify: Bashers beat down a stock so they can buy it at a cheaper price and sell on a run, pumpers praise a stock in order to raise the PPS so they can sell their inventory on a run. Just because someone talks up or dogs on a stock doesn't mean that they are either, they may just like or hate the particular stock. End of story.
 
Posted by SmoothTrader on :
 
I own several million shares of VWKM . Intimi owns 95 mil shares .... And he is not afraid ...So I am not afraid .

Intimi says stay away from PRRM , PCLO , STTK & JYSR untill these companies change management and show strong new directives .
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
lol, text message yourself?

get the Intimi alias banned? nope, didn't know anything about it; do that to me? proposition is nonsensical--I don't do stuff to get banned, silly.
 
Posted by SmoothTrader on :
 
Ok..Tex .

I did not mean you did ....I was just being funny .I do not think you would have done that either .

I want intimatrader to come back in this board . But he thinks they might not like his type . To much wit , to bright & to successfull in pennyland stocks . He has even made money on VWKM already .Buying at .0002 then selling at .0004 and re-buying at .0001 to accumulate and hold long term shares .

I live in del rosa hills and intimatrader lives 30 minuts from me in rancho cucamonga . Where do you live Tex .We can have dinner if you live close ....Then when both of us are sitting across from you your foot will eventually come out of your mouth so you can enjoy a nice meal with us .....Now thats funny ...You must agree . [Big Grin]
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
lol, if indeed there's two of you guys who post and think so alike? My head would suffer a banality-induced explosion onto your dinner plates...yuk.

Nah...still doesn't make sense, sorry...
 
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
 
no no smooth.

I'm the foot remember? LOL

You keep your VWKM and welcome to it. I don't play long and unlikely.

Oh, and I doubt Tex lives close...hence the...Tex nick?

Later Clark, and good luck to everybody. I think you gonna need it.

The Bigfoot
 
Posted by SmoothTrader on :
 
Ok..whatever you say ...You guys are the man .
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SmoothTrader:
I own several million shares of VWKM . Intimi owns 95 mil shares .... And he is not afraid ...So I am not afraid .

Intimi says stay away from PRRM , PCLO , STTK & JYSR untill these companies change management and show strong new directives .

That's funny because intimatrader didn't show up until this stock was at .0001. How do I know because I have been around since the stock traded at .0004 and he was no where to be found. IF you both made money good for you.

But to try and pump this stock now with the current horrible management just show most of us your true colors. Since March 24th this stock has not traded above .0001. So you both are much longer in this stock than either of you have admitted previously or maybe are being a bit less than truthful.

From what I witnessed of intimatrader he never saw a stock at .0001 he didn't like. I had to laugh because for most of us we know that any stock trading in the .000's might have runs but are not investment material. They can be flipped if the share structure is manageable and the MOMO is with them. Once in a blue moon one will surprise. To pick multiple .000's and call them all great investments is lunacy. well they do say that genius is a step away from insanity.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SmoothTrader:
Ok..whatever you say ...You guys are the man .

lol, you "guys" are the (one) man...
 
Posted by SuperIntimatrader on :
 
Hello Wally .I have been in the market for about three years now . I only have a few penny stocks . But of all my gains they have made me the best bank . I own efsf, dcbi wbrs , aw, gap , rshn, ko, ndn, mnrta , tsy , o, mfa , igt and others that are not near .0001 . Some are riets that produce quarterly & monthy dividends . And most are by far up from where I bought them . There have been some penny stocks at or around .0001 that I am currently involved with . Like my pain shares { they are all free shares to me now as I already made short term game of paim . I hold 45 billion prefered and ten million common that I fully expect to see reduced to 1 mil sometime next week .

As to your thoughts on vwkm. I was buying vwkm before I ever posted on allstocks . Like smooth told you - I did buy and sell a bit { tens of millions at .0002 then sold at .0004 } .The movement of the stock and the emotions of traders at the time allowed me to think I had just enough time to get in and out to make that short term gain . It worked . However I was to nervous to re-buy at .0002 so I changed g.t.c. oder to .0001 and started to accumulate for long term as I thought stock would now need to cook for awhile before moving up .

I do own other stocks at and near .0001 . like jmcp, bkmp, ddsi, nexh , pyct , awbv and more . I own so many different stocks now .And many are far from penny stocks . I just don't believe or see that all all good or bad . Like big boy stocks that have traded at big boy prices for years . Some are good and some are bad . I look for those things that others seem to greatly over look . My mentor is the all time greatest investor Warren buffet . But there are others I learn from aswell .

I just wanted to give you heads up . I am interested in some .0001 stocks but not all . And I am interested in reits { but not all of them } . And I like companies like coca cola and hansons { but only when the price is right .
It is very imortant for me to study negative news . It seems to be the bigest factor in capturing a great price on a good stock or soon to be good stock . I have learned so much this past three years and mostly in the last year and a half .

Paim was dancing at .0002 last week . Well I thought others had all said it would never see higher than .0001 again . Obviously a blanket statement that has to be thrown out . For all the high float , oustanding shares , low pps , lack of revenue , continued bashing & period of time that is taking to excavate { paim has only to pull gold now to change everything } . That is all that needs to happen and watch your " socalled permanent .0001 " disapear in history . But people whatever .

Make your own decissions and show atleast a microscopic amount of patience .

I would like to thank those who stood up for me after I was banned { you know who you are } . And I will be there for you if you need me . Special thanks to my good friend smooth for the new name " super Intimatrader . I like it .

PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS
 
Posted by SmoothTrader on :
 
HE'S BACK !

Welcome welcome welcome back my good friend !

Good to see you here . We love you big guy [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by SmoothTrader on :
 
HE'S BACK !

Welcome welcome welcome back my good friend !

Good to see you here . We love you big guy [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
My intention was never to say that you only invested in .0001 stock only that you seem to post and have faith in many of them. As to your acumen in trading, I have no idea. You may very well be a good and profitable trader.

My contention has always been the lack of quality management with VWKM. That is it's down fall. There have been many knowledgeable traders that had to same idea about VWKM. I bought because it looked to be a stock with huge potential. It's just sad that because of poor management that potential may never be reached.

Whenever I see posts on a stock that provide a much rosier picture than my DD has shown I will post my findings to balance it out. This has been the case with VWKM. I wish you luck in your trading.

As far as patience goes with this stock, many myself include gave Mark the benefit of the doubt while he kept issuing more and more shares. From March on, I guess everyone's patience goes thin at some point. If Mark had given us a reason to some patience like some glimmer of hope it might be different. But like many one-night stands he promised to call in morning and we never heard from him again.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by SuperIntimatrader on :
 
Thanks smooth [Cool]
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
lol, I thought you guys live several miles apart...
 
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
 
AH Split personalities! I'm getting outa here before they breed! LOL
 
Posted by Relentless Despot on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
lol, I thought you guys live several miles apart...

those are his two neurons talking.. and yes they are miles apart...
 
Posted by SuperIntimatrader on :
 
Yes ..and I understand Wally .part of me wants and prefers to belive the stock will be just fine . Because I own a large possition .However my thoughts are still as I said before . It may sink { and I don't know that it will } . but if it makes it I think it will make it on a very large level .

The company swifty put out the Pr that -------- left . A replacement could be in the works . And perhaps the replacement is the one to now put out the releases .

I'm not sure why the divi shares are restricted but expect an answer from the company on that . Does anybody have any factual information of a company problem here ? Some items to be worked out sure . But I need facts if I am to think it is scam .
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
lol, what are you joker(s) trying to pull?

[ July 02, 2006, 23:14: Message edited by: T e x ]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SuperIntimatrader:
Yes ..and I understand Wally .part of me wants and prefers to belive the stock will be just fine . Because I own a large possition .However my thoughts are still as I said before . It may sink { and I don't know that it will } . but if it makes it I think it will make it on a very large level .

The company swifty put out the Pr that -------- left . A replacement could be in the works . And perhaps the replacement is the one to now put out the releases .

I'm not sure why the divi shares are restricted but expect an answer from the company on that . Does anybody have any factual information of a company problem here ? Some items to be worked out sure . But I need facts if I am to think it is scam .

How about giving us any facts at all that show they are in business or doing anything at all. No word from them since May 17th. Everything posted here on this thread plainly shows all the red flags we look for about a stock that would tell us not to put our money into it. If you wish to believe whatever you want based on your own imagination, far be it from me to stop you. As I stated If you post glowing accolades I will be there to post the realities. The realities have been well documented.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
 
I like this line best...

quote:
Originally posted by SuperIntimatrader:
It may sink { and I don't know that it will } . but if it makes it I think it will make it on a very large level .

Uh...it's a .0001 stock Clark...After that it doesn't sink

It IMPLODES!
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
what's funny to me is the French braces... {what's Up Wi Dat?}
 
Posted by SuperIntimatrader on :
 
PHBT has never made money . Been around for awhile and pending a united states patent or two . And it is documented the patent aplication and pending status . So low as the price is if the news comes of a patent issued all investors holding will have bank .

JYSR went from .25 cents a share at end of 2005 { where I bought my first shares } to 1.50 a couple of months ago where I sold off my possition . Yet they have no assets , no real revenue and are a cyber based piece of hole in the wall crap that can't even pay the vice president of sales on time .

OK ... want more .How about WBRS . Changed it's name again and again , drops off the radar with no PR's or news of any kind for all of eternity and a far as I know I am the only caller to actually get through and speak with the ceo in a year time frame . Pretty scary right ." NO " not really when I noticed things I could take advantage of over other traders thinking . I bought a but load at 2 cents a share and held tight till many weeks ago when it had a run . I parashuted out at 8 cents a share and landed on a big pile of cash .


PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS

[ July 02, 2006, 23:58: Message edited by: SuperIntimatrader ]
 
Posted by *Magnetic*Microspheres* on :
 
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Posted by SuperIntimatrader on :
 
Yeah Mag ...And counting cash is pretty boring too . [Big Grin]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
So you are saying if you hold any stock long enough it will eventually run regardless of them being in business or not. That's fine. But that is not what you have been saying about VWKM. You have been talking of it making a major run and being a great investment.

I asked you about this stock. All you have is that a few that you have been in got lucky. If you are playing a moon shot and say so no one will come down on you for that. Playing a moon shot that hits isn't smart trading it's luck. VWKM is a moon shot now. There is no basis on merit to invest in it.
 
Posted by SuperIntimatrader on :
 
There are many stocks I will never touch as I see nothing in them . I have never said hold on to all stocks they will eventually run .I'm not even saying buy this stock .If it goes up will go up .if it fails it fails . It has not failed at this time . And many people give socalled insight that is dense with assumption of the sky falling . Just learn to give the information straight . That seems to be very hard for you .Unless you bought much higher where is the real risk . I can say that some stocks look very likely to move up . Risk against gain this stock is a powerhouse . It can fail if the company can't solve problems or has a monkey at the helm . Well it does not have a monkey at the helm and it is envolved with strugling new management . Not to mention we simply need new information as we are in the dark for now .

Just tell me why some people can't wait for the facts . They take limited negative info and create a much larger negative picture . Then like a pack of wolves others with no time to wait jump on the " sky is falling " train . We all know some bit of info . That the company has had no recent PR's , high float , low pps , executive leaving , lots of socalled banter on different sites { much unverified } and many upset that their little .0001 purchase has not turned into a big flip for them .

Sometimes I wonder if you even realize your playing with stocks . Once you learn to leave your emotions out of it you will see a better picture . I can buy into a stock that has so much panic around it most would wonder my thinking in buying it .But remember { panic is an emotion } . I use traders emotions to see how that will calculate to probability effecting stock price . But I do not get emotional in my trades .

A friend talked about STTK and invited me to join the train as it had big movement one day . I could find no valid reason for the company having a sudden increase in pps . The news was not strong enough and more hype than hope . It was clearly pure emotion driving the price up .I would not touch it with a ten foot pole . People lost a lot of money in the next few days after that . I saw it , but it was hard for me to see that others did not .

VWKM is a puzzle with missing pieces .We need the other pieces to put the puzzle together . Or you do not see a factual picture .So lets get the missing info then descuss this company . Then we can make the smartest reactions to owning this stock .

To react now makes no sense . We all bought in low . In the next few weeks I expect will will know the full picture . React then .
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
You assume that I'm emotional about this company or my investment. You are wrong. I have already chalked the money I put into this up to experience.

"VWKM is a puzzle with missing pieces .We need the other pieces to put the puzzle together . Or you do not see a factual picture .So lets get the missing info then descuss this company . Then we can make the smartest reactions to owning this stock"

These are facts that have been presented throughout this thread.

(1) Since before May 17th Mark and Co stopped answering the phone and investors questions. There has been no communication from him or anyone else since that time.

(2) The General Manager, Rick "Moe" Erickson abruptly left the company on May 15th prior to the term of his contract ending. Rick had the contacts in the cable industry and was the driving force behind contracts being signed to carrier NSTV signal.

(3) The company Website, including TV schedule has not been updated since May 17th.

(4) Crawford Communications, one of the companies that are contracted to carry the signal, are not only not carrying the programming but haven't seen or been in communication with Mark or anyone else from the company since before May17th.

(5) According to PR's from Mark the grand rollout of New Screen TV was to have taken place May 1st. Here we are 2 months later and no roll out.

(6) PR stating 15% Dividend as a reward for all loyal shareholders turns out to be Restricted Stock which not only was never mentioned but was amended after it had been posted on the OTCBB Daily List.

(7) After making a point of stating concern for shareholder confidence and buying back 400M shares Mark issue over 12B shares and dumps them on the market. Then increase the Authorized Shares from 20B to 30B.

(8) The stock has been trading with No Bid for close to 2 months.

(9) In the midst of uncertainty Mark states in a PR that they need to open an office in Hollywood, Ca and look for a Production Studio.

(10) Aurora's one of the companies that signed an agreement to carry New Screen TV isn't even broadcasting yet.

No. I'm not looking at this with emotions, I'm looking at it with logic and common sense. Both of which tell me that the future isn't anywhere near as bright as you and a few others want to believe. What exactly are we supposed to find out in 2 weeks that will change everything? The only missing pieces to the puzzle happen to be Mark and his wife Naveen who run the company. Now you say you wouldn't touch STTK with a ten foot pole because the news wasn't strong enough and more hype than hope. So tell us, what and where is the news that is so strong and full of hope that it will make VWKM this powerhouse you speak of?
 
Posted by SuperIntimatrader on :
 
Tell me something new

We appreciate that information but we all know these things . You can't tell me why erickson left .Maybe he wanted a new contract with a much bigger benifits package in line with much increased revenues about to dwarf his current package with existing contract .

His ammunition to force a new contract would be that he holds the contracts and leaving would force a disruption in service that we see now . No updating the website and lack of PR's would most likely follow . And obviously this is a connection to the restricted dividends . I would expect that to be corrected to free trading shares when PRs' continue . And I expect PR's to continue when they have a replacement for Erickson .

I know they blasted additional shares on the market but as I remember it was done with a reason and they would work to pay that back down . Means taken to create the revenue stream are exceptable financially .

Mark certainly has to work a few things out and part of that is to take on Eriicksons roll as best he can untill a replcement is found . Such as stepping upto bat in connection with affiliates . Add to that any possible transition to a new office and studio and you have series of set backs to be worked out .I think mark is fully capable of handling all these prpblems .

Once again .The company my fail or it may not fail .But there is no in between here . We may lose our investment but for me that is at .0001 . That is the lowest possible price we can buy at . I'm not saying we will lose .I am saying we can . But we can also be riding a stock in a company that is behind the scenes handling and working out all these problems . Well if the company gets past this to the creation of an established and increasing revenue stream the gloves are off. It will continue to sign new affiliates and expand it's viewership and popularity of programs . It will increase it's revenues and compound its cash . Cash that is available for company growth and expansion , buying back bulk blocks of shares and even more dividends .

Look at my profile Wally and you will see what I do for a living . Risk against gain this is a must have stock for me .
 
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
 
Super-blow-ve-ater! The wind your passing is even a gots the tree's to bending a ways over up here in Or-ee-gone!

Geezz! Me windmill is spinning off a it's tim--bers, me ships is a straining at their An-Keers!
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
That is a pretty good list of facts but it isn't full proof.

1. The company doesn't return investor calls, but the phone and answering machine are still on. So they paid the phone bill.

2. CEO leaves before contract up. I didn't know it was tied to a contract. Can you provide a link?

According to the pr he left when his phase was complete. Doesn't sound like anything except he finished what he was hired to do. Basically get contracts which he did.

3. Amended filings to be restricted. If a pump and dump why would it matter if restricted or not? It would matter if there was a deal in the works such as a buyout. Someone needs to explore why making them restricted helps a pump and dump and explain it to me.

4. Website and programming not updated. I can't answer that except to say it is bad manners. My understanding that OEN, Aurora, and Eagle haven't started programming yet so why would a website help them?


It doesn't look like a scam to me. It looks more like they ran out of money, tried a divvy to get volume enough to sell and couldn't raise the money.

According to all the pr's they are way ahead of schedule so maybe the contracts got ahead of the rest of the business plan.

Maybe someone will get them some financing and it will be ok for a while or maybe buy them. Maybe I am way off and it is a scam.
 
Posted by Skyman on :
 
Maybe they are hurting for money and maybe they are still trying to make it happen. All of that could be in a press release or stated by someone hired to just answer the phone and read a prepared statement, but they didn't do that. It doesn't look good to me. It appears that they have headed for the hills. I still have my shares because they won't sell.
 
Posted by Forrest on :
 
43 mill in volume today, no new pr and i have to guess its people buying b/c everyone says that they cant sell. Anyone have any thoughts???
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Good question,

I finally put a sell order of 1/3 of my holdings, figured small lots might sell quicker.

Maybe they paid the light bill with shares?????
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
or a new ceo
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
I called the Transfer Agent today to see if it was possible that additional dilution was going on. The guy said something funny, I asked for the Outstanding Shares and he replied that he could only give me the issued but not Outstanding Shares. I've never run into this before usually I ask for Outstanding and am given the figure, even in the past with this Transfer Agent. Below are what Investopedia says about Issued vs Outstanding shares.

Outstanding Shares

Stock currently held by investors, including restricted shares owned by the company's officers and insiders, as well as those held by the public. Shares that have been repurchased by the company are not considered outstanding stock.

They are also known as "issued shares" or "issued and outstanding".

Issued Shares

The amount of authorized shares that are sold to and held by the shareholders of a company.Also known as "issued stock".


Issued shares include the stock a company sells publicly in order to generate capital and the stock given to insiders as part of their salaries. Issued shares do not include shares the corporation holds in its treasury stock or shares that are retired by the corporation after repurchase. The amount of issued shares can be all or part of the total amount of authorized shares of a corporation.

The total amount of issued shares outstanding in a company are most often shown in the annual report.


So the ISSUED SHARES are 23,984,254,488

Here is the Time & Sales for today also wierd

Time & Sales
Price Size Exch Time
0.0001 2000000 OTO 10:51:33
0.00 4000000 OTO 10:15:28
0.00 9000000 OTO 10:15:03
0.00 9000000 OTO 10:14:33
0.00 9000000 OTO 10:14:13
0.00 9000000 OTO 10:13:48
0.0001 380000 OTO 09:34:24


Notice the trades inbetween the .0001 trades.

[ July 05, 2006, 21:31: Message edited by: wallymac ]
 
Posted by Forrest on :
 
Maybe someone knows something, loooks like the same person bought or sold about 40 mil? Anyway to be able to tell if they bought or sold?
 
Posted by indytrader on :
 
Here a new piece of DD.

According to whitepages.com, the phone number listted for Vision Works President Mark Astrom is a CELL PHONE.

"(407) 401-8935 is a cell phone based in Orlando, FL"

Don't bash this poster, I'm simply sharing factual informations. Do your own DD.

Indytrader
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Posted by: Chowme Demoney
In reply to: None Date:7/6/2006 4:08:38 PM
Post #of 4508

VWKM is a scam. I just talked to Crawford Communications and they said that at one point they were affiliated with VWKM but that they don't have anything to do with them anymore. 1-800-831-8027

It's time to write the SEC!


http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=11894329

http://www.vswm.com/pages/PressRelease/01_23_2006.html
 
Posted by Skyman on :
 
I have invested in several of these real "winners". I wonder what it would cost to just buy the majority interest and run it right?
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Skyman:
I have invested in several of these real "winners". I wonder what it would cost to just buy the majority interest and run it right?

interesting thought..
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Has anyone been able to sell at .0001 lately?

Jo
 
Posted by Schwabie on :
 
Not for months
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Darn, that's what I thought.

Jo
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SuperIntimatrader:
PHBT has never made money . Been around for awhile and pending a united states patent or two . And it is documented the patent aplication and pending status . So low as the price is if the news comes of a patent issued all investors holding will have bank .

JYSR went from .25 cents a share at end of 2005 { where I bought my first shares } to 1.50 a couple of months ago where I sold off my possition . Yet they have no assets , no real revenue and are a cyber based piece of hole in the wall crap that can't even pay the vice president of sales on time .

OK ... want more .How about WBRS . Changed it's name again and again , drops off the radar with no PR's or news of any kind for all of eternity and a far as I know I am the only caller to actually get through and speak with the ceo in a year time frame . Pretty scary right ." NO " not really when I noticed things I could take advantage of over other traders thinking . I bought a but load at 2 cents a share and held tight till many weeks ago when it had a run . I parashuted out at 8 cents a share and landed on a big pile of cash .


PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS

Intim,

I definitely want more....not the success stories, but the plays you see coming. same as examples above but at the beginning...

anything in the pipeline besides PHBT waiting on the Patent news?

obviously I will do my own DD, but a few hints never hurt [Smile]
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
WILMINGTON, Del., Jul 12, 2006 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Vision Works Media Group, Inc. (Pink Sheets:VWKM) announces that Ray Jogoditch has been appointed the new President of Vision Works Media Group, Inc. Ray Jogoditch has accepted the resignation of Mark Astrom, former president and CEO of VWKM.

New Management of the company will be issuing news to the public in the coming days and disclosing their future plans for the company.

This press release does not constitute an offer of any securities for sale. This press release contains certain forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. These forward-looking statements involve certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ, including, without limitation, the company's limited operating history and history of losses, the inability to successfully obtain further funding, the inability to raise capital on terms acceptable to the company, the inability to compete effectively in the marketplace, the inability to complete the proposed acquisition and such other risks that could cause the actual results to differ materially from those contained in the company's projections or forward-looking statements. All forward-looking statements in this press release are based on information available to the company as of the date hereof, and the company undertakes no obligation to update forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances occurring after the date of this press release.

SOURCE: Vision Works Media Group, Inc.


Vision Works Media Group, Inc., Wilmington
Ray Jogoditch, 407-401-8935
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
New Management of the company will be issuing news to the public in the coming days and disclosing their future plans for the company.
This should be interesting. I guess things can't get any worse than they are now.

Jo
 
Posted by Schwabie on :
 
Wow i forgot I had this stock... thanks for reminding me... lol ! hopefully new management will take it in the right direction.. SHARE BUY BACK AND RAISE THE PPS !!!
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
Here you go...

this is what we needed to hear.

this an a few good moves, huh?


Vision Works Media Group, Inc. Announces New President
Business Wire - July 12, 2006 12:23

WILMINGTON, Del., Jul 12, 2006 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Vision Works Media Group, Inc. (Pink Sheets:VWKM) announces that Ray Jogoditch has been appointed the new President of Vision Works Media Group, Inc. Ray Jogoditch has accepted the resignation of Mark Astrom, former president and CEO of VWKM.

New Management of the company will be issuing news to the public in the coming days and disclosing their future plans for the company.

This press release does not constitute an offer of any securities for sale. This press release contains certain forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. These forward-looking statements involve certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ, including, without limitation, the company's limited operating history and history of losses, the inability to successfully obtain further funding, the inability to raise capital on terms acceptable to the company, the inability to compete effectively in the marketplace, the inability to complete the proposed acquisition and such other risks that could cause the actual results to differ materially from those contained in the company's projections or forward-looking statements. All forward-looking statements in this press release are based on information available to the company as of the date hereof, and the company undertakes no obligation to update forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances occurring after the date of this press release.

SOURCE: Vision Works Media Group, Inc.

Vision Works Media Group, Inc., Wilmington
Ray Jogoditch, 407-401-8935
http://www.vswm.com

Copyright Business Wire 2006
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
Does anyone know who this new guy is?
 
Posted by indytrader on :
 
IMHO, Not a good sign that they have removed all content from vswm.com and newscreentv.com.

Indytrader
 
Posted by monk on :
 
Personally, i think it's a great sign. Anything is better than what everybody has been going through. If this is completely dead, at least we'll know soon enough now.
Or look at it this way- the old plan didn't work, now we may have new blood and new ideas.

Either way, I've mentally written this off. Any success will be purely bargain for me.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
first order of buisness for new management - R/S the stock!! full speed ahead!!!
 
Posted by monk on :
 
I see a R/S, certainly can't hurt this dog. However, I will only gain true confidence with this new regime when and if they buy back a large percentage of shares. They're certainly chap enough!!!

It would certainly show positive intent.
 
Posted by monk on :
 
That was CHEAP enough.

I can't spel.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
HMMMM,

Selling at 1/3 your investment after a reverse split is certainly better than losing all.

On the other hand no one knows where we are headed, we don't know about existing contracts.

At least there is some intrigue now. Like other stocks that go broke the end is sometimes worth the price of admission just in entertainment value.

Go VWKM go.

Maybe a merger coming. Using VWKM stockholders to get them above a certain threshold. Any other reasons you by a company with 20 billion shares?
 
Posted by indytrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by monk:
Personally, i think it's a great sign. Anything is better than what everybody has been going through. If this is completely dead, at least we'll know soon enough now.
Or look at it this way- the old plan didn't work, now we may have new blood and new ideas.

Either way, I've mentally written this off. Any success will be purely bargain for me.

I think part of the problem is that we don't know where things stand. I thought that Astrom and his wife WERE the company. Is Newscreen still broadcasting? Were the rumors on Ihub true that Astrom came to pick up defective equipment from Crawford and never came back?

As an aside, I guess this means that Astroms wife is no longer employed either.

Before anyone starts talking R/S's, it would be nice to know where our 2 million dollars went and how much is left. But of course, this being a pinky, I highly doubt we will ever know.

Indytrader
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
I did a search on the new President and don't think anyone in North America goes by that name.

I really don't think a RS is imminent, but wouldn't be surprised. I just don't see how they go forward without being able to raise some money. A buyback to say 100 million shares would be cool if they have a business and business plan.

Truth is this could sky rocket in the right situation. Say an existing private company wants to go public, they already have millions in revenue and want to expand nationally. So they buy VWKM and then VWKM purchases the private company or merges with it.

It might be a real cheap way to become a public company.

1000:1 reverse split takes it to 23 milion OS at .10, merge with a company with a book value of say 25 million and walla, you have a 1$ stock and a ten bagger.
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
I did a search on the new President and don't think anyone in North America goes by that name.

I really don't think a RS is imminent, but wouldn't be surprised. I just don't see how they go forward without being able to raise some money. A buyback to say 100 million shares would be cool if they have a business and business plan.

Truth is this could sky rocket in the right situation. Say an existing private company wants to go public, they already have millions in revenue and want to expand nationally. So they buy VWKM and then VWKM purchases the private company or merges with it.

It might be a real cheap way to become a public company.

1000:1 reverse split takes it to 23 milion OS at .10, merge with a company with a book value of say 25 million and walla, you have a 1$ stock and a ten bagger.

you go ahead and dial that in for us Johnny.....

[Smile]

I am for the Johnny Rotten Plan.

PROXY Vote....lets get you appointed J.R.
 
Posted by Schwabie on :
 
I vote JonnyRotten for President & CEO. Oh wait.. nevermind... I thought i wrote this company off already ... [Frown]
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
anyone think news this week?

What if this becomes a defense stock.
 
Posted by DrZ on :
 
What has happened to this stock? Anyone heard any news, etc.?
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Vision Works Media Group, Inc. Announces New President
Vision Works Media Group, Inc. (Pink Sheets:VWKM) announces that Ray Jogoditch has been appointed the new President of Vision Works Media Group, Inc. Ray Jogoditch has accepted the resignation of Mark Astrom, former president and CEO of VWKM.

New Management of the company will be issuing news to the public in the coming days and disclosing their future plans for the company.

This is the latest I've seen. Maybe some news soon.
 
Posted by duke on :
 
Is this thing dead? Was it a scam or is there some hope of recouping and breaking even if it bounces a couple of ticks?
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
New President. News soon.
 
Posted by sev278 on :
 
hope this new mo will do something with this co to drive the pps NORTH!!!

GLTA!
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Should see lots of green when the pending news comes out! [Cool]
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Volume pretty low still so I figure no news is leaking. I haven't found anything on the president.

Maybe it will become an oil or defense stock.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
I finally found info on Ray Jogoditch if it is the same person.

26 years old
Bradenton, Florida address
 
Posted by sev278 on :
 
having this stock along with RSHN, CNES & HISC is making me old & grey real quick! WE NEED SOME PR & SOME GREEN - & QUICK!!!

GLTA!
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
How old was bill gates when he became ceo of microsoft?
 
Posted by Schwabie on :
 
wow, this company still exists ?
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
[Cool]
 
Posted by Schwabie on :
 
10 million shares here long ... but not that i have a choice.. ive had a sell order for months.. so i guess that makes me.. LONG & WEA K.. LOL
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Traded early today. Looking for news any time. Whats up?
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Yeah we need some news. Wonder what is going on with their new direction pr's.
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Maybe this week.
 
Posted by Schwabie on :
 
or maybe 5 years from now...
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Action today maybe the new pres is shaking the bushes?
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
Look down the list in the link and you will see they are planning 1:10,000 R/S

http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dailylist_detail.asp?d=07/26/2006&mkt_ctg=NON-OTCBB
 
Posted by BULListic on :
 
Yep, screwed again. Two months ago it was "company policy is no reverse split" and now this. I hope they find that Astrom dude and hang him by his %^&%$#

11M now a whopping 1100 shares. Ask should be around $1.00 tomorrow and I would guess the bid will be in the 5 to 10 cent area. A nice tax loss for Uncle Sam.
 
Posted by DDA on :
 
I'm in schock
 
Posted by atleast on :
 
thanks to Intimatrader for the thread name - it's really shocked
 
Posted by Schwabie on :
 
that no reverse split policy really worked.. lol.. hey at least its not a total loss... yes we might open at a $1 who knows... but i give it 5 seconds we're down to 1 cent... meaning we got enogh for beers... beers all around ! [Smile]
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Schwabie:
that no reverse split policy really worked.. lol.. hey at least its not a total loss... yes we might open at a $1 who knows... but i give it 5 seconds we're down to 1 cent... meaning we got enogh for beers... beers all around ! [Smile]

Sorry to ask this--I am really pressed for time, otherwise, I would not--are you saying this recently had a reverse split?
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
woo hoo might get 10% of my money back.

I just hope it doesn't plummett that far.

Second RS I have endured and they suck.
 
Posted by triovestor on :
 
[Mad] How could they do that /

Kinda seems weird ..no news at all ..They did not want people selling I guess .

So is there any chance of something good here ?Is it at all possible the price might go higher than dollar and news will come out on contracts ?

Yes or no ...Egg ..some one ..help define what is happening here

I hope it is a good thing and not a problem [Roll Eyes]

Anyone know anything ? [Eek!] maybe they will merge or something [Razz]
 
Posted by triovestor on :
 
After all , this new guy .{ whats his face } new president is on the line with his rep and name . I think he would want to turn things around and pretty fast .
 
Posted by Skyman on :
 
A lack of a PR just isn't polite.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I'm sufficiently shocked. I see the writing on the wall as my GTC sell order for .0001 is now showing pending cancelled on TDAmeritrade.

This is going to be another NNRF for me I guess. In that R/S I ended up with 37 shares and I now have only 7% of my original capital remaining.

Just great!

[Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by kevy0899 on :
 
I noticed in my account the symbol changed to vmdg today... The only thing interesting is my 15% dividend did not change.. .It is still restricted under a different name... Any ideas? Is there any chance the dividends move under the new symbol?
 
Posted by CMoney on :
 
It would be pretty cool if the divy shares dont rs when the restriction lifts and we get to sell them on the open market. If I sold today my $45 investment would yield more than $5700


C$
 


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