this one will be huge check the chart its dropped big recently and is ready to turn!
Posted by superman7 on :
nothing above >> HOGC >> off the bottom here OIL AND GAS ( HEARTLAND
Posted by superman7 on :
u/ting fast here this will be huge!
Posted by djg7 on :
Bottom bounce. Cool!
Posted by Johnwayne on :
Will it run through tomorrow?
Posted by superman7 on :
i thikn this will run big i think tommorow is a big day and i think this one will run for a while it ran down for a few days and now the trend is reversing!
Posted by djg7 on :
I'm in!
Posted by superman7 on :
i got in at .24 ( i got lucky) it ran right after i filled i think this is an easy double or triple but i am seriously looking for the $1 break!
oil is hot!
Posted by Johnwayne on :
In small at .26 but need to hold through tomorrow. Superman - thanks for the AMEP pick. Needed it!
Posted by superman7 on :
no problem john i am still holding all of mine it will be huge tommorow also check out RSHN
Posted by Johnwayne on :
What are you looking for here?
Posted by The Doc on :
superman - big thanks for the AMEP alert.
What do you think HOGC is going to do and when?
Posted by Johnwayne on :
RSI is 50 at .2782 RSI is 70 at .4329 1st resistence .2933 2nd resistence .3167
Posted by paulbest on :
I know HOGC very well, be careful here. The only thing pushing this stock up is the NG price +. Be very cautios here, there are many who are desperate to get out on any spike.
my 2 cents. might see 40 to 50 cents cents in 2 weeks. after that its anyones guess.
Posted by paulbest on :
The thing with HOGC is where will the price of NG go this summer then into fall and winter. I guess with all metals going +++ and now oil +++, makes perfect sense to me that NG will go, eventually back up where she was at peak not long ago, $15+, maybe even So yeah, then you will see HOGC at $1. But when? June. Remember 100 coal bed methane wells is = to one good conventional NG well. HOGC basically has 1 conventional NG well.
Posted by Johnwayne on :
Paul- sounds like I better adjust my sites a little. I was hoping for .40 - .50 tomorrow, not two weeks. But thanks for the information. RSI wise I think this stock is perfectly placed for a run. Superman - did you stay in this?
Posted by paulbest on :
John I know HOGC very well. My father started buying in at $2.75 Nov/04. And kept buying all the way down til it hit 18 cents a few months ago. We did sell some at 60 cents but eventually he bought 500K shars and lost $200k+ $'s. When he went into the hosiptal in Feb 20-24, I sold his remaining shras at 38 cents. There are many who bought in low, 17 cents=40 cents are now DYING to get out. Glad I could be of help. It will have a run, but I'd be very careful, this stock has a very poor histoty. As do all and evety coal bed methane stock. Including the king of all Storm cat. But Storm does have some conventional property in alaska. But is mainly a coal bed NG company. So no, HOGC is not at a bargain price as far as a long term investment is concerned. Get your profits then get out. I'd guess 50 cents/share. I could be wrong.
Posted by 7 of 9 on :
the chart of this is extreme garbage
obvious dumping and dilution.
avoid
Posted by paulbest on :
quote:Originally posted by 7 of 9: the chart of this is extreme garbage
obvious dumping and dilution.
avoid
Yep. I wish my father had bought canwest instead of buying HOGC back in late 04/all through 05. HOGC went from 2.75 to eventually 17 cents. Canwest oil sands went from 22 cents (my first look at the chart, nov/04) to now like $7+.
sheeshhhh, an old man who laerns nothing... Paul
Posted by rob_seller on :
7 of Nine ... U might be right but this is a good buy for short term.. May be up at least 20%-50% by monday... So whats wrong in taking profit..
Posted by paulbest on :
quote:Originally posted by rob_seller: 7 of Nine ... U might be right but this is a good buy for short term.. May be up at least 20%-50% by monday... So whats wrong in taking profit..
I agree with your projection, easy 50%+ profit next week.
Posted by superman7 on :
yes john i am still in i think we see .35-.40 easy tommorow maybe more, i know a guy who is buying this up he thinks it will be $1+ he has alot of money and buys alot and so yeah with momo i think we see .35-.40 easy, this is definatly not a long term hold for me infact no penny play is...i am only holding one stock long-term and thats CDE but i might sell soon as i have made 50% in 2 monthes but yeah i dont reccomend holding no penny for long term
goodluck all
Posted by DQ. on :
Why is this moving??? I can't find any recent news. May be a PR in the AM. Somethings up! Thoughts??
Posted by DQ. on :
Again...Why is this moving??? I can't find any recent news. May be a PR in the AM. Somethings up! Thoughts??
Posted by Johnwayne on :
It's up a few cents already this morning!
Posted by Johnwayne on :
You ever get the feeling you are the only person in the world invested in a stock? Going on an hour since the last trade!!!!
Posted by uptickds on :
quote:Originally posted by paulbest: The thing with HOGC is where will the price of NG go this summer then into fall and winter. I guess with all metals going +++ and now oil +++, makes perfect sense to me that NG will go, eventually back up where she was at peak not long ago, $15+, maybe even So yeah, then you will see HOGC at $1. But when? June. Remember 100 coal bed methane wells is = to one good conventional NG well. HOGC basically has 1 conventional NG well.
Posted by uptickds on :
quote:Originally posted by paulbest: The thing with HOGC is where will the price of NG go this summer then into fall and winter. I guess with all metals going +++ and now oil +++, makes perfect sense to me that NG will go, eventually back up where she was at peak not long ago, $15+, maybe even So yeah, then you will see HOGC at $1. But when? June. Remember 100 coal bed methane wells is = to one good conventional NG well. HOGC basically has 1 conventional NG well.
Paul not sure where you get your NG prices but you will not see NG prices at 15 unless there is a hurricane in the gulf. I purchase NG for the chemical plant I work at. NG is below 7 per MMBtu.
Posted by paulbest on :
Look at the NG chart. Its moving up for the past 4 days. its at 8.19/per Kcf. NG hit a short term high of like 15 PCF a few months ago. It will see 15+ late summer/fall. It will beging a long slow climb starting as of 4 days ago. Now what that means for HOGC is some significance. HOGC NG production is like 500K CFD, thats not much, but more is on the way. I wish you good luck with HOGC.
Paul
Posted by paulbest on :
thats $15/per K cf
Posted by Johnwayne on :
Uptickds- Ok so there's two of us left invested in this. Do you think all of the day traders got out this morning at .29? I am left in this until tomorrow, but that's ok I only have a small amount invested here. I may let it ride into next week as my other ethanol/gas plays have all been good to me the last two weeks. I have almost doubled my account this month with one week left. Hope I don't give all my gains back next week. Wouldn't be the first time.
Posted by Johnwayne on :
Maybe it's going to bounce when it finishes it's retrace from yesterday's gains LOL!
Posted by paulbest on :
Gee I just looked at the HOGC chart just now. Down that nickel it gained yesterday. Thats why HOGC is not in my fav viewings on yahoo. I gave up on this stock months ago, when I sold it the rest off at 38/39. Good luck. Paul
Posted by Johnwayne on :
Well I see I broke two of my rules here. Never invest in a stock that releases financials on a Saturday. Also don't chase above 15%. Well live and learn.
Posted by PCola77 on :
Boy John, you sure jinxed this one good Posted by Johnwayne on :
PCOLA - the only way to erase one of my jinxs' is for me to sell. That'll be good for a run for the rest of the poor souls stuck in this one.
Posted by paulbest on :
quote:Originally posted by Johnwayne: Well I see I broke two of my rules here. Never invest in a stock that releases financials on a Saturday. Also don't chase above 15%. Well live and learn.
Well I can see why someone would jump in HOGC. At /near an all time 52 week low + NG is on the up. + HOGC has recently hooked up a gas gathering system/pipe line + more wells to tie in PLUS all new management board members with top notch experience, Zimmerman/Storm cat and another with 20 yrs coal bed experience with a major.......all adds up to me as a STRONG BUY. But look what happened to the stock this morning. This is HOGC. Look at any/every coal bed methane stock chart. Nothing very interesting. Sure a few spikes, but then down turns. Good luck with HOGC....
Posted by uptickds on :
quote:Originally posted by paulbest: Look at the NG chart. Its moving up for the past 4 days. its at 8.19/per Kcf. NG hit a short term high of like 15 PCF a few months ago. It will see 15+ late summer/fall. It will beging a long slow climb starting as of 4 days ago. Now what that means for HOGC is some significance. HOGC NG production is like 500K CFD, thats not much, but more is on the way. I wish you good luck with HOGC.
Paul
Paul you gotta be pulling numbers out of your a$$. Look at the charts for the last 8 years. NG got over 10 bucks only twice, not counting the 2005 hurricane season. In 2005 was a exception due to the 2 hurricanes otherwise the avg for 2005 would have been around 8.
Posted by uptickds on :
quote:Originally posted by paulbest: Look at the NG chart. Its moving up for the past 4 days. its at 8.19/per Kcf. NG hit a short term high of like 15 PCF a few months ago. It will see 15+ late summer/fall. It will beging a long slow climb starting as of 4 days ago. Now what that means for HOGC is some significance. HOGC NG production is like 500K CFD, thats not much, but more is on the way. I wish you good luck with HOGC.
Paul
Paul you gotta be pulling numbers out of your a$$. Look at the charts for the last 8 years. NG got over 10 bucks only twice, not counting the 2005 hurricane season. In 2005 was a exception due to the 2 hurricanes otherwise the avg for 2005 would have been around 8.
Posted by paulbest on :
UP not sure which chart you are looking at. I have followed NG prices for the past yr. Look at the spikes during NOv/Dec 05. $14-15 on several days. Give me a link/web site for your chart. mine is called NYMEX
Posted by Johnwayne on :
Hey boys she's waking up a little!! I could get back to even here.
Posted by uptickds on :
quote:Originally posted by paulbest: UP not sure which chart you are looking at. I have followed NG prices for the past yr. Look at the spikes during NOv/Dec 05. $14-15 on several days. Give me a link/web site for your chart. mine is called NYMEX
quote:Originally posted by paulbest: UP not sure which chart you are looking at. I have followed NG prices for the past yr. Look at the spikes during NOv/Dec 05. $14-15 on several days. Give me a link/web site for your chart. mine is called NYMEX
You will always see spikes up in the winter, it depends how cold it is in the NE and midwest. But to say "NG will be a 15" there's nothing to back that statement up.
Posted by uptickds on :
I purchase over 2.5 million dollars of NG a month at work. And have done so for the last 6 years. I'm not trying to argue with you but that statement has no backing to it.... thats all
Posted by paulbest on :
Sure, its an assumption. You can see all knds of guesses on oil prices. I recall yahoo posting a news break where these top 50 oil analysts /20 of which said oil would not go up/stay the same. I thought they must be joking. The next day or so, the militants attcaked the Nigerian oil port. Since then oil has not come down.
There is a school of believers in the Peak Oil theory, says oil price will rocket. And Jason Hummel gives a link where this guy rebuttals all /every argument of this Peak Oil camp.We all know oil will go up and not down, since last yr we knew this. So rough guess is oil 75-100 this yr, gas 8-12 this yr. Averages. I think thats a reasonable projection.
Posted by paulbest on :
quote:Originally posted by uptickds: I purchase over 2.5 million dollars of NG a month at work. And have done so for the last 6 years. I'm not trying to argue with you but that statement has no backing to it.... thats all
Sure I don't wish to argue with one who in fact is in the NG business. So hows my new projection look to you? Paul
Posted by Johnwayne on :
Oil is having a tough day all the way around.
Posted by uptickds on :
Barring any major hurricanes I doubt if we'll see ng over 10 bucks this summer. Throw in a hurricane in the gulf toward texas you'll see it around 17-18.
Posted by uptickds on :
quote:Originally posted by paulbest: Sure, its an assumption. You can see all knds of guesses on oil prices. I recall yahoo posting a news break where these top 50 oil analysts /20 of which said oil would not go up/stay the same. I thought they must be joking. The next day or so, the militants attcaked the Nigerian oil port. Since then oil has not come down.
There is a school of believers in the Peak Oil theory, says oil price will rocket. And Jason Hummel gives a link where this guy rebuttals all /every argument of this Peak Oil camp.We all know oil will go up and not down, since last yr we knew this. So rough guess is oil 75-100 this yr, gas 8-12 this yr. Averages. I think thats a reasonable projection.
ah, peak oil. I'll give my opinion on this. I do not believe in the peak oil stuff. I kind of lean toward the russian guy who thinks oil will always be around. If you believe in the peak oil camp then yes, prices will continue to go upwards till there is no more oil to suck out of the earth.
Then if you read the bible it says that man will always have whatever he needs on earth....
3 different camps. which is right? you got me on that.
Posted by paulbest on :
I agree and am not a member of the Peak Oil theory. But as you say any major hurricane to hit texas/another can't hit louisiana, as we just had 2 majors, so we are safe for another 20 yrs....so its all guess if a storm will hit texas. But the uncertaintity factor greater than a hurricane is Chavez/venesula and insurgents in the mideast/africa. + the Iranian dude. All this makes for uncertainity. NG somewhat follows oil. Correct? Besides, lets assume gold/silver/metals go yp another 100% this yr. Why should gas sell at the same price it is today. All commodities are connected in some part.
Posted by DQ. on :
I bought today. I think this can make some money in the next few weeks. Time will tell.
Posted by NTS06 on :
HOGC is stuck at .24 !!! Will this move soon? Any news awaited? Just curious...
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