Wow, didn't know PMED had warrants. Anywho, there are 1 million warrants outstanding compared to about 28.5 million shares of common, this as of 6/30/05. The warrants have an exercise price of $.20 per share and expire on April 7, 2010. Pretty much they should mirror the movement of the common and are slightly cheaper with a similar spread, and they won't expire on you for another 4 years, but they aren't quite as liquid and I would stick to the common stock at a slightly higher price. There is no guarantee if PMED common goes up that PMEDW will as they do trade independently. PMEDW has only traded 170,000 shares this month and there only 5 MM's in this one. Good Luck in whatever you chose.
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Can you give me the L2 Breakdown ??
Posted by Fairly_New on :
from another board
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PMEDW ran about 1 month before PMED had her big run.. Appears to me Before_You_Buy was dead on so far about PMEDW popping again. Last run was from .01-.16 and with the same volume she can move right back to that price.. The play was called at .007.008 now she is .009-.01 The lack of shares makes this an easy play for Momo and gapping when ever the huge volume comes in.. The stock has no bad filings because she is just a warrant. A warrant is a stock which is used as a third party to exchange money. In this case the Warrant is use to exhange money between Wells fargo and PMED I would keep a closer eye on this. Low volume she moves very easly high volume she breaks .16 and even tries to test .50 -----------------------------------------------------------
Source of this info www.***********.com they also sent the e-mails out on PMEDW before the first one. Appears as they will be at it again..
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Someone PLEASE post the L2's from today
Posted by FurrySound on :
I thought a warrant was an option to buy or sell stock in an underlying security, secured by the company... do you mean that it's being used as payment to, or from Well's Fargo? Kind of confused here...
Posted by BULListic on :
Wow, well that's a lot different than the stuff I quoted out of the last quarterly filing. I never played warrants to excercise to common, I just always traded them like common with no intent to excercise or hold until maturity date, just to trade at usually a discounted price to the common with the hope that the price movement mirrored the common.
Posted by Fairly_New on :
A 4000 share buy ticked this up to .01 this morning
Is there any way to get L2 info and TIME & SALES info on a day in the past -- and an intraday chart
Posted by firefighterswct on :
I remember last time i was in this thing , it was great i got in at .04 and got out at .16 400% profit in one day... i just wish i had invested more money into it could of made a ton ... I got this on radar if the volume starts to come in on this im jumping on bored
Posted by reidler88 on :
can someone help me out here does anyone know the float of this stock,,
Posted by JimSC on :
Great entry points for 4 high-growth stocks at bottom:
CLBE, VTLV, VMHVF, and PMED.
Posted by pcloadletter on :
The ploat is really low....don't know exactly
This thing upticks on almost no volume!
Posted by firefighterswct on :
Seems to be getting some volume ... it poped up on my scanns ... im keeping an eye on it if she get more buys i think ill jump in and try and make some quick cash
Posted by Fairly_New on :
yeah the first buy ticked it to 3 !
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
be careful... could be a MoMo play... he likes the warrant stocks! They don't trade much volume, so you could get stuck holding!
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Yeah I'm aware thank you FOT
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
What just happened?!
Posted by Fairly_New on :
with what big
Posted by firefighterswct on :
Agreed FO2 could be ... but im just gonna watch it .. if a scan starts to pick this up and i actually see some volume comming in on it i may jump in and out real quick to make some money
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
my Ameritrade streamer either just caught up with this, or there was a .02 jump in the ask with no volume....
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
should have said no change in volume....sorry
Posted by firefighterswct on :
wow up 300% now and bid is up also .. im tempted to get in here at .04 where i got in last time ... hummm
Posted by rider3160 on :
no bid support
Posted by firefighterswct on :
wow up 439% here im jumping in something is up !!
Posted by Fairly_New on :
DAMN IT
Posted by Fairly_New on :
I swear I was gonna bust this thing next week -- & it looks like its going now --
Good luck to any that get in
Posted by matto on :
game on weeeeee
Posted by firefighterswct on :
in at 6 put only for a partial fill 5k shares damn ...
Posted by cbrf2 on :
uhm, isnt this ran by shakerz....?
Posted by matto on :
in at 7 out at .60
Posted by firefighterswct on :
i dont know but who ever ran it last time got it past .16 and i made a ton on it so idk im watching it very closly
Posted by jmichael7 on :
cb.. nope
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Yeah thats probably why its going because he wanted it before I could get to it --
Posted by Fairly_New on :
This sucks --
Keeping my mouth shut from now on
Posted by Fairly_New on :
quote:Originally posted by jmichael7: cb.. nope
Are you in this J ??
Posted by firefighterswct on :
Im out at .09
Posted by wang on :
whats run?
Posted by matto on :
ME TO 9
Posted by bigthc1 on :
quote:Originally posted by firefighterswct: Im out at .09
Sold on the bid, huh?
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Glad you guys made some cash Posted by cbrf2 on :
im sorry, this isnt run by shakerz, its ran by the a/s infamous momo
Posted by firefighterswct on :
no i was etrade on the ask i was out at 9 then ask went up to .10
Posted by jmichael7 on :
they didn't have to big
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Yeah well whoever did it, did it wrong -- I mean dont get me wrong, but, could have been BETTER than the last one
Posted by firefighterswct on :
Nite came down and hit the bid with a 10k sell look at time and sales on it
Posted by bigthc1 on :
Not in this, just watching. If this was a group play, whoever sold at .09 on the bid caused this crash
Posted by Fairly_New on :
so...... J you in ?
Posted by Fairly_New on :
well you all could jumpstart it
Posted by Fairly_New on :
I'm telling ya -- this could go again
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
whats with the HUGE spread?
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Upticking again ---
Thank for F'n me whoever it was
Posted by johnny14511 on :
anyone still holding
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
Me - I didnt get in till 9 - looks like I'm scr..ed, bid is at .035, this SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by bigthc1 on :
try selling on the ask
Posted by redgurl19 on :
No i know who actually ran that stock today . IT was a plan!
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
still waiting....I'm sure I got shafted....
Posted by Fairly_New on :
NO chit it was a plan -- I was planning a play on this -- for next week
Posted by bigthc1 on :
just wait big green, you should be able to get out even IMO.
Posted by Fairly_New on :
you out there Redgurl ???
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Yeah I know who it was Posted by johnny14511 on :
hey fair did you sell?
Posted by Fairly_New on :
I never got in johnny, I got backstabbed and someone took the play from me today -- In my opinion whoever did this today, and I have my suspicions, was an idiot and didnt play it right
Posted by kywee on :
your kidding right? lol
Posted by Fairly_New on :
nope not kidding, there was nothing going on with this stock until I started posting last couple days and started talking about the play and then all the sudden off it goes --- its all good, just goes to show ya that you cant trust anybody ...... damn shame
Posted by johnny14511 on :
what do you mwan they took the play from you?
Posted by Fairly_New on :
well maybe a bad choice of words but couple people knew that I was looking to hit this soon and all the sudden this runs ???????
to much of a co-incidence here
Posted by johnny14511 on :
yeah its messed up man
hey you think it may run again in the next week since its back to .01
Posted by kywee on :
you gotta be kidding me if you think someone "took" your play. i really dont know what do say...plus Before_You_Buy started the thread in day trading.
no one takes someones play, you dont have enough money to move the stock by yourself.
Posted by Fairly_New on :
If you look at my last post KYWEE, youll see I sd it was a bad play of words.... I dont believe that this would have ran today if I wouldnt have started posting like I did...
But as I stated .... its all good Posted by Fairly_New on :
Member Rated: posted October 23, 2005 05:05 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As far as a Runner or as an investment? The way I feel is if you invest in Pennyland you will get hammered. I use microcaptrade every trading day to help my account grow. Hopefully I can stop by when I am at work with my PDA and post some runners for us to make bank on.. ] this was BYB's last posting
and this was my first post
Fairly_New Member
Member Rated: posted October 26, 2005 17:55 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thread was over on the Daytrading thread --- wanted to get it over here
Anyone think this is ready to roll at all ???
Can someone post the L2's and see what kind of volume we would need to jack this B****
Posted by Fairly_New on :
point is BYB's last post didnt say anything about PMEDW and was several days b4 I started posting --- so ya in a way I created some excitement
Posted by reidler88 on :
I DIDNT GET A CHANCE TO GET IN,,, BUT I WOULD STILL WATCH IS CLOSELY,, IT TICKED UP ON LITTLE VOLUME,,, A REAL GROUP COULD HAVE REALLY RAN THIS,,,
ANYONE HOLDING THE MOMO BAG,,, JUST PRAY THE NEWS IS SOON AND HOPEFULLY YOUS CAN GET UR MONEY BACK,,,,
Posted by rider3160 on :
either way it was a play and I do know for a fact who caused this to go up. I didnt not buy and if you had L2 you could see this was a pump. That sad part was one 17 year old kid was told by the runner to keep buying at .085 and .09 and the kid lost a TON of money. This is really messed up i feel bad for those holding but you have to watch out for stocks that move this much without a reason
Posted by JimSC on :
Status of 4 high-growth stocks:
CLBE: up 21%; news expected next week. VTLV: up 13%; quarter report expected next week. VMHVF: up 10%; news expected next week. PMED: down 12%; great entry point.
Posted by redgurl19 on :
I got out at 0.09 But i know who was behind all this woot woot Posted by Fairly_New on :
hehe -- I like you already redgurl -- although you didnt ck my PM
Posted by Fairly_New on :
quote:Originally posted by reidler88: I DIDNT GET A CHANCE TO GET IN,,, BUT I WOULD STILL WATCH IS CLOSELY,, IT TICKED UP ON LITTLE VOLUME,,, A REAL GROUP COULD HAVE REALLY RAN THIS,,,
ANYONE HOLDING THE MOMO BAG,,, JUST PRAY THE NEWS IS SOON AND HOPEFULLY YOUS CAN GET UR MONEY BACK,,,,
Your right Reidler a REAL group could have done really well --- small minded
Posted by rider3160 on :
if it was a pro they would have put small buys on the bid to look as there were bid support. this was one ugly run up. Well i know who was behind this and will follow them to let others know not to get caught up.
Posted by Fairly_New on :
well spoken rider, very ugly
Posted by reidler88 on :
bid and ask are spread again,,, so if u got caught holding the bag,,, dont sell at .01 which i know some newbies will,,,, this one will run easy,,, wait for another run,,,,
Posted by Fairly_New on :
So, I'm thinking, since you're saying it was your call, and rider is saying he knows how to do it the right way, why don't the both of you run PMEDW so I can make bank and you can relieve some people of their bags?
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Funny ....... this being your first post in almost 2 months.
But thank you for the L2's
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Oh and by the way, I didnt call anything, I simply said that I told a person or 2 that I was looking into playing PMEDW and wow just like that the next day its off and running -- You should have had more than 4 people in the group Posted by viqutorious on :
quote:Originally posted by Fairly_New: Oh and by the way, I didnt call anything, I simply said that I told a person or 2 that I was looking into playing PMEDW and wow just like that the next day its off and running -- You should have had more than 4 people in the group
You are welcome for the L2.
Why is it funny that I haven't posted in 2 months? Anyway, I don't have a group, but I'm not going to act so naive as to suggest I don't know who did. Just as FO2 knew. When I saw the original post at 009/01 I knew then. But from .01 to .10, wow. And if he did that with only 4 people, wow! That 1000%.
Whether I agree or disagree with the methods or the person, the fact still remains that there will always be bagholders in any run/play/ investment. Greed will always propell people to spend more than they can afford to lose and/or buy at high prices hoping it will still go higher.
It's always easier to blame than to take responsibility. In the end we can only blame ourselves. Been there/done that. Ignorance or "newbie" is not an excuse. If you haven't learned the game, you have no business jumping in with all your funds.
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Well said Viq,
I bow down before you. LOL Thank you for the lesson. And I do agree with you. So.... I hope your last paragragh was general and not intended for any one person
Posted by viqutorious on :
quote:Originally posted by Fairly_New: Well said Viq,
I bow down before you. LOL Thank you for the lesson. And I do agree with you. So.... I hope your last paragragh was general and not intended for any one person
You're too kind Fairly. Nothing intended for an individual, just my perspective. Glad it didn't start a rumble.
Good luck to you.
Posted by BuyTex on :
kinda sorta interesting thread...
Posted by Fairly_New on :
WE try TEX --- LOL
Posted by Before_You_Buy_JR on :
quote:Originally posted by Fairly_New: Oh and by the way, I didnt call anything, I simply said that I told a person or 2 that I was looking into playing PMEDW and wow just like that the next day its off and running -- You should have had more than 4 people in the group
Think more along of the lines of this. Low float + low volume = High % change. Low float + high volume= Higher % change.
Formula # 2 will create more bag holders once people like yourself start to bid hack the stock... My friend this was planned out for weeks. Don't believe for a second you had anything to do with this run. Read around the net and you will see has been posted for sometime now and ran by the same person who ran it the first time. Only difference between the 1600% and 900% run was the 1600% run lasted for 3 days.. Public didn't notice the run till the third day and the plug was pulled from the project. This 900% run the public was awaiting it and even helped the push to .09 Then someone came in and killed the run by hitting the bid when the stock was .09/.10 Got love those bid hackers..
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
Here we go AGAIN.......LOL +190 on the ask - bid is still at crap
Posted by matto on :
someone is trying to create a run!
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
thats fine with me - Like the moron I am, I got suckered on Friday, holding the bag at .09.....
Posted by matto on :
OUCH!still in? It will run again someday!
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
yeah - still in - tried to sell on the downslide, but couldn't get out....Only in for about $175, so not too bad, but what I would give to get in on the BEGINNING of a run....LOL
Posted by Before_You_Buy_JR on :
PMEDW very easy to run. No one really put much money into her to cause a run. Would be interesting to see how far she will go on the next one. For those who are interested I will posting a new stock to look out for at the end of close today. Hopefully members good enough with DD can help add to the pile that I have found already on this new stock..
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
OH GOODIE - bid is now only 50% less than the ask.....LOL
Posted by Before_You_Buy_JR on :
I don't believe you will see a run on this anytime soon.... Might have to wait another 2 months for a run.
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
thats ok with me, the money will still be there...
Posted by Before_You_Buy_JR on :
Things are looking up
.025/.028
Anyone who is in at .09 I will glady buy your shares at .026 in the morning if you would like to sell it to me..
Posted by billymorgan123 on :
does anyone know why this is showing no value,,, is it because there was no trades or what???
Posted by QuestSolver on :
this moves to quick on almost no volume,easy to get in and hard to get out!!
Posted by billymorgan123 on :
hell i got caught holding the bag on this one,, so i sold at .01 and took a big loss,,,
but i put that money back into a few other stocks and tripled that,, so now im right back where i started breathing a sigh of relief,,
it dont pay to hold onto a stock
Posted by billymorgan123 on :
anyone still holding the bag,,, suggest u get out at .01 before it drops back to .007 and then buy back in and try to up ur money.,.,.,.,.,
Posted by kywee on :
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