.0005 .001 .0015 .002 .01 OR HIGHER
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
.0003 needs to be there....IMO
Posted by Polarbear17 on :
Don't see it happening .0003 to many people bought in at .0002 and arent go to sell for such a little profit after waiting so long for news. Do the math 50 million in contracts divided by 9 billion shares = .005
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
From your thoughts to my pockets my friend....I would love to see it, but I am doubting it.
Still, in all, in at 2, out at 3 is a 50% profit...
$50 MM contracts? Not in a realm of possibility for this company, not in a million years...
$5 MM is more likely...
They are not a proven commodity in the disaster recovery business. I doubt they could cover a $50MM bond if they got that much in contracts. 10% to cover, if they have that much.
$500K to cover $5MM, I would imagine they could do that blindfolded.
The Feds are some dumb, not plumb dumb. Proven entities will get the bulk of this. Not that $50MM is anywhere near the bulk.
Posted by Lucas Brachish on :
I'm in at 3 (from a while back, taking the split into account, etc.)..... and at this point, getting out at three is tough enough (I've been trying, with a limited order being out there for many days, for only a slice of my holdings, but no nibbles) ..... and selling at 4 would mean a nice little profit (I'd be thrilled) .... selling at 5 will ONLY happen with some really fat contracts, for which we have no guarantee, just a wild-card bet (a bet made safer by the hurricanes and FEMA, but not a sure-thing by any means).....
So I'm voting for 5 as my target, but let's face it: Most people are going to bolt at 3, and some will hold out for 4. And then everyone will wait for a dip and rumours of possible contract news, and then get back in for the actual run (a run that will be jump started by either rumours or real news, but will only last on facts)....
The fact that a lot of people have been able to buy in at 2 (and a couple of people are averaged below 2, maybe close to 1) actually makes the situation worse, because, as Big Green says, selling at 3 will actually mean a 50% profit. That's a damn good profit. People will take it. And if a lot of people take it, then we'll end up falling back to 2 before we pass 4. Maybe we'll see 4 for a few hours, but not everyone will get a sale at that price (IMHO). Then we drop back to 2, and then everyone starts buying back in and we get a bounce (maybe)....
BIG contracts will change everything ... but without a big contract, even seeing 3 or 4 will be a grand day at the races.
[ October 15, 2005, 14:32: Message edited by: Lucas Brachish ]
Posted by Rules on :
I think the stock has potential as it came down from .39 just a few months ago on no news. The stock smacked down to .0001 and then spiked to .0009 in one day. Following the forward split, techinically there should be less shares of the stock and the potential for it to go from .0001 to .0009 again should prove possible if they do land a FEMA contract!
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Rules,
I agree ---- why anyone would want to sell at .0003 when this will go much higher than that just on the MOMO -IMHO-- You guys dont think that a few 500 MIL or more volume days wont spike this ??? It did a few weeks ago !
Well its been ramping up from 7 MIl to 40 Mil this week
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
A couple of points here, and this is MY opinion only. You all know I am still very much a newbie in this...
Rules - first of all it was a forward split, which means MORE shares, a reverse would mean less, so how can more shares mean greater potential for a pps spike? I'm betting they will get more than 1 FEMA contract, but nowhere near the $50MM that Polar is seeing.
CWFG is NOT a construction company - they are a finance company, who specializes in short term ( 1 year) mortgage loans. ( I spent a lot of years in the mortgage business, and I've never heard of a finance company that specializes in short term mortgages getting into something like this, but then again I never heard of Mr. Guthrie before either.)
Fairly - Brother, I would absolutely LOVE to see 500 MM share days again. It was a wild ride to the split!!!
I have to be honest here, I would like to see 5 or better, but 3 is 50% for me...I've had a sell for 3 in twice, and cancelled both times. Why - I don't know, maybe greed, and that's not a good thing with this stock. If I hold out for 4 or 5, I may be holding for a very long time, and risk losing it all at 1, which would truly bite.
I'm not sure what to do yet, and like the rest of you on this thread, I would like to see / hear some news. Guthrie has not returned my calls, and I'm not holding my breath for him to do so.
Have we been snookered here? - I hope not, but only time will tell. Hopefully, Monday will bring something we can sink our teeth into, and give us hope for a GREEN day with this!!
Posted by Rules on :
Yep, more shares in the market which is the opposite of what I said earlier. Still, trim that .0009 in half and you still get a decent .0004 - .0005 run on a Fema contract.
Posted by DQ. on :
hope they get a contract. I got in at .0005 so I am way down.
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
DQ - in at 5? Your PPS should have gone down after your shares from the split..... Unless you go in higher before the split...
Double check your PPS....Hope it's lower man!!
Good Luck to ALL in CWFG
Tomorrow may bring news, I hope!!
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Hey all.
Getting a significant run on this one is going to take a while, in my opinion. There are an aweful lot of shareholders out there that, for all practical purposes, just want their money back on this one. People have limit orders in, just like Big Green did, to get out and make a little money, and if we see sells at 3, I think these limit sells will bounce the price around between 4 and 2.
Just my opinion of course, and I can't blame anyone for wanting to get out at 3 with a 50% profit. I the grand scheme of things, holding this stuff for this long has cost me a lot of money in oportunity costs.
-Slip
Posted by USFBRIAN on :
SPEAK FOR YOURSELF BUDDY!
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
quote:Originally posted by USFBRIAN: SPEAK FOR YOURSELF BUDDY!
Don't worry. I do.
That's where the "in my opinion" clause comes into effect. Posted by Fairly_New on :
hey USF -- i think slip asked you a question on the other thread -- wheres your DD ??? -- man I am a FIRM believer in CWFG and have always been --- i am one of two on the poll that said OVER .002 So....... I would love to hear what makes you think this will be $1.00
Posted by Fairly_New on :
I think personally with news and MOMO with promise of more pr's and contracts will at leats get this to .002 --- i dont know what the L2's look like
Can someone post te L2's ???
Posted by bigblaster on :
I saw that as well on the other board about shares hitting 1.00 eom. Wondering what gives, because if its reasonable a 200 dollar invest would flip me a clean 600,000.00. My ameritrade shows its at .0003 last trade so I believe with those numbers that would be correct. Any DD available for the point?
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
Anyone who thinks this will hit $1.00 pps is one of 2 things (IMO), either converting to a foreign currency, or if they think its US $1.00, smoking something and NOT sharing with anyone else.
This thing has NEVER gone over .40, and that was LONG before the F/S.
Now, with that in mind, I wouldn't mind seeing $1.5MM for my shares.....
Tell you what, USF, I'll gladly sell you my 1.5MM for .40pps, and you can keep the rest when it hits $1.00pps
We can finalize the deal whenever you're ready to put your money where your mouth is....ROFL!!!!
Posted by johnny14511 on :
quote:Originally posted by Big Green 1: DQ - in at 5? Your PPS should have gone down after your shares from the split..... Unless you go in higher before the split...
Double check your PPS....Hope it's lower man!!
Good Luck to ALL in CWFG
Tomorrow may bring news, I hope!!
whats PPS?
Posted by Marty on :
PPS: Private Personal StockPrice...LOL Really: Price Per Share
quote:Originally posted by johnny14511:
quote:Originally posted by Big Green 1: DQ - in at 5? Your PPS should have gone down after your shares from the split..... Unless you go in higher before the split...
Double check your PPS....Hope it's lower man!!
Good Luck to ALL in CWFG
Tomorrow may bring news, I hope!!
whats PPS?
Posted by johnny14511 on :
hey marty how do you check your pps on your stock
Posted by Marty on :
I usually ask my doctor first LOL But seriously, the PPS is the price per share, whether current, past or what you paid for it.....you know, what it costs to purchase each share....???
quote:Originally posted by johnny14511: hey marty how do you check your pps on your stock
Posted by Fairly_New on :
guess what peeps -- all the people that are saying this will not go higher than .0005 are RIGHT if thats all you want
Posted by Desert Ed on :
IF (a BIG IF) a few million dollars of FEMA contracts fall into place, you could see this one reach 10 cents a share. Remember, the price the stock is driven to has little to do with the actual worth and a lot to do with the fever of the moment. We'll make some money on Monday morning.
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Amen Ed
Posted by Lucas Brachish on :
quote:Originally posted by johnny14511: ... how do you check your pps on your stock
I know that Ameritrade got confused with my account after the FS (forward split) .... it kept my PPS at the price I'd bought CWFG pre-split, so it made it look like I was down a lot more $$ on this stock than I actually was. So I had to manually reset the PPS.
To correct a problem like this (or just to quickly find out your PPS on any stock without looking through your trade history or trying to average together your various buys of the same stock at different prices), what you do is, you look at the actual cost (how much you paid in total), and then divide that by the number of shares you now own. That gives you the PPS (price per share).
Example: You paid $10 for 5 shares of a stock. $10/5 = $2. So your PPS is $2.
The standard PPS that a service like Ameritrade gives you does not include the commision fees you paid, so you also have to keep those in mind when calculating your personal losses and gains, of course. The PPS for CWFG is currently waivering between .0001-.0003, although buying at 1 and selling at 3 are nigh impossible at the moment.
I hope I explained all that right.
Anyway, here's hoping we can reach .0004 or .0005 this week, with or without contracts. Or at least get some sells on Monday at .0003 ... Just a fluffy PR or a rumour could serve us fine for that! Posted by johnny14511 on :
my pps should be .0005
Posted by Persia on :
Commonwealth American Financial Group Announces Additional Fast Track Bidding Monday October 17, 9:03 am ET
ST. PETERSBURG, Fla.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 17, 2005--Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CWFG - News) announced today that its wholly owned subsidiary, Hawkesbury River Funding of Texas, has commenced bidding on additional projects worth several million dollars in the Louisiana region. ADVERTISEMENT
The Contracts involve Earthworks, Levee reconstruction, Road and Drainage Construction, and Street overlay work. Hawkesbury River will handle all bidding at its Dallas, Texas office. The company is preparing on a fast track basis several bids that are due in the next few weeks. Hawkesbury River has also requested local and regional firms to contact its Dallas office and provide relevant contract experience and corporate resumes that will be used in the bidding/construction process for these projects.
The company will participate on these projects in various capacities either as the General Contractor, Interim Lender or Joint Venture Partners. The company is continuing to build its team of experts to expedite the bidding process and enhance its rate of success.
Mr. Guthrie, President, said: "We are receiving and reviewing contract documents on a fast track basis and forming relationships with local and regional contractors that are able and willing to undertake the reconstruction work that is awarded to the company. We expect within the next several weeks a significant amount of bids will be awarded and we are taking the necessary measures to be fully prepared."
The mission of Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc. is to invest in land development projects either as developer, joint venture partner, or lender and create mezzanine-financing opportunities. The company will also grow by acquiring subsidiaries in related fields such as construction, real estate brokerage-appraisal-management, in Florida, Texas and Louisiana.
The Company has established a website http://www.cwmf.net and trades under the symbol (Pink Sheets:CWFG - News).
Posted by dalton05 on :
T. PETERSBURG, Fla., Oct 17, 2005 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CWFG) announced today that its wholly owned subsidiary, Hawkesbury River Funding of Texas, has commenced bidding on additional projects worth several million dollars in the Louisiana region.
The Contracts involve Earthworks, Levee reconstruction, Road and Drainage Construction, and Street overlay work. Hawkesbury River will handle all bidding at its Dallas, Texas office. The company is preparing on a fast track basis several bids that are due in the next few weeks. Hawkesbury River has also requested local and regional firms to contact its Dallas office and provide relevant contract experience and corporate resumes that will be used in the bidding/construction process for these projects.
The company will participate on these projects in various capacities either as the General Contractor, Interim Lender or Joint Venture Partners. The company is continuing to build its team of experts to expedite the bidding process and enhance its rate of success.
Mr. Guthrie, President, said: "We are receiving and reviewing contract documents on a fast track basis and forming relationships with local and regional contractors that are able and willing to undertake the reconstruction work that is awarded to the company. We expect within the next several weeks a significant amount of bids will be awarded and we are taking the necessary measures to be fully prepared."
The mission of Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc. is to invest in land development projects either as developer, joint venture partner, or lender and create mezzanine-financing opportunities. The company will also grow by acquiring subsidiaries in related fields such as construction, real estate brokerage-appraisal-management, in Florida, Texas and Louisiana.
The Company has established a website http://www.cwmf.net and trades under the symbol (Pink Sheets:CWFG).
Posted by Mack on :
polar???? is that u buying very small quantities again?
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Flirtin' with 3. Could someone post the L2's for this one? How many MM's do we have on this?
Thanks,
-Slip
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
8 million in volume already, 20 minutes into day.
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Anyone know the significance of the 911 trades?
Posted by Fairly_New on :
decent PR -- at least they gave what they were looking to so for work Ditto on the L2's please someone post
Posted by fishfarmer on :
Get the contract and sub the work, with FEMA paying the bills everybody makes a ton of money.Lay $20 on the come!! Rollem boys and girls good times acommin! Posted by Fairly_New on :
what the hell was that --- 8 Mil to 32 ?
Posted by fishfarmer on :
quote:Originally posted by fishfarmer: Get the contract and sub the work, with FEMA paying the bills everybody makes a ton of money.Lay $20 on the come!! Rollem boys and girls good times acommin!
Hey!!! Gotta pay the dealer. Posted by jack85 on :
What happened here? Hasn't been touched in over an hour.
Posted by Polarbear17 on :
No, Mack i'm not buying anything , period i'm all taped out , waiting for News like you to watch this and the rest of m stocks to pop. every little bit helps . Green is Green no matter how much ! Hopeing to see .001 to .0015 .
Posted by Fairly_New on :
getting a little action again
Posted by jack85 on :
Does anyone know who is on the bid & ask?
Posted by Jmoove on :
some nice vol here today too bad in the wrong direction
1x3 5x4
Posted by Fairly_New on :
drops to .0001 and ask goes to .0003 - damn (shaking my head)
Posted by Jmoove on :
hdsn back at .01on the ask
was at .0002 this morning up until 2:05pm est
Posted by Jmoove on :
hmmmmm
Posted by so uh wheres ma money on :
Wow.. 178 mil.. today..finally getting some action here..
Posted by dalton05 on :
now we just need this to go up.
Posted by Jmoove on :
I dont know what it is, i just have a feeling about this one (dont care about the co really just have a feeling that the mms will let this fly if we get volume)
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
Ameritrade is showing last at 3
Posted by so uh wheres ma money on :
Let's everyone hold for a good run, don't interrupt it... by selling..
Posted by Jmoove on :
last transaction was a mirror trade from 3 to 2 for 2 mill total
Posted by Fairly_New on :
holding here
Posted by Lu01eg on :
The hard part about playing "chicken" is knowing when to flinch.
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
J - would you please explain what a mirror tade is....THANKS!!
Posted by Lucas Brachish on :
Well, the fluff PR I was hoping for sent the volume soaring this morning, as expected.... But it's too bad the sell price of 3 isn't sticking. I really thought this would give us a solid 3 to 4 for the day...
The limit order I've had in for a week (at 3) didn't get a bite... Until we start getting more buys and sells at three, we'll have a tough time pushing above that (without a few million in contracts) ... And the constant drops to 1 are going to scare people off...
Posted by Jmoove on :
mms match a buy with a sell, usually done when the mm does not want to let any of his own shares go, so he sells his shares at 3 and "buys" them back at another seller's price (in this case 2)
Posted by Jmoove on :
well boys this could get interesting, only two left on the bid at 1, nite and tasl
Posted by Fairly_New on :
yeah but nite is a co*k --- hehe
Posted by Jmoove on :
ok only nite left now, looking bleak
Posted by Fairly_New on :
I dont know so I'm asking -- if only 1 left why so bleak
Posted by Jmoove on :
on the bid? if nite leaves then we lose the bid totally
Posted by dalton05 on :
Volume going up last few minutes of trading
Posted by Fairly_New on :
what so that mean we have no value ??? hehe
Posted by Jmoove on :
pretty much
Posted by Fairly_New on :
well WTF -- what happend with all that volume -- sells at F)&*()&^ .0001 ???
Posted by matto on :
dont be upset the contracts are coming.The people that were buying and selling were trying to make a buck on news. We believe in the company and we wait.Remember he wants the shorts out!! So next time they won't join our party!
Posted by Fairly_New on :
so what happens now ??? 200 Mill and no one on the bid ?? -- I guess I dont understand --
Posted by evokiosk on :
wow!! you'd think that the volume would have done something for us. there's always tomorrow... unless you die of course
Anyway, I found this article online, CWFG is featured:
has anyone been able to get some * .0001???
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Well good, we're back to 2. Don't like sitting at 1 over night.
Volume is not as strong today as it was yesterday. We had 8 mil in shares by this time. But I understand that most of those were sells, so maybe it was a group dump?
-Slip
Posted by matto on :
"Good things come to those who wait." "Rome was'nt built in a day" It WILL HAPPEN!
Posted by evokiosk on :
anyone know why etrade shows...
Bid (size) 0.0000 (x5,000)
does this mean we can't sell right now? also, and i know these are newbie questions but what exactly makes the price of a stock go up and who dictates that to etrade and the other companies?
Thanks!
Posted by Fairly_New on :
its back 5000X5000
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Big jump in volume.
Posted by Fairly_New on :
50 MIL already -- are these dumps again -- DAMN
Posted by Mack on :
any buys yet * .0001
Posted by PhoenixStockMaster on :
on the move today. but I doubt we will see much until we get solid news that CWFG has signed contract(s). I sent an email to Guthrie asking when we could expect such news - but, as usual, no response. I have read some of the earlier posts - $1.00 is wishful thinking. However, with contracts (notice - I said contractS), I think we could see this stock go back up to the .40's. Guthrie needs to stay on the ball here and push for contracts. I personally think he has his hand in too many pots and that is affecting the way he runs CWFG.
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
quote:Originally posted by PhoenixStockMaster: I personally think he has his hand in too many pots and that is affecting the way he runs CWFG.
Amen, brother!
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Anyone have the low down on what this volume is doing? I have to assume these are sells... ?
Posted by Jmoove on :
wow nite is absorbing alot of sells, I wonder if he has been shorting? lol
Posted by JOELGA on :
So much negativity! Why dont we all try to be positive for a change. What a novel idea. It takes time to make money, get contracts, and most of all get the attention of investors and get the stock price up. I will be patient in knowing that CWFG is doing everything in their (Guthrie) power, not only to make money for themselves, but also for their shareholders (us). IMO this one will surprise us all if we hold tight and don't let all this negativity shake us or our shares!
Posted by dalton05 on :
good thing is HDSN isnt on the ask, hes back at .01
ask .0002 Tasl .0003x3 Nite .0004 .01x2 HDSN, DOMS
Posted by Jmoove on :
i agree kywee, .40 is a pipe dream, .0004-.0006 is a good exit IMO
Posted by Fairly_New on :
damn Jmoove -- why kill it -- .0004 - .0006 is NOT a good exit point ---
Posted by kywee on :
.0001 is a good exit point. stop kidding yourself
Posted by Fairly_New on :
bye kywee
Posted by Mack on :
i just got 4.9 mil at .0001
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Good for you Mack
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Would/could you sell it at 0.0002?
Posted by Mack on :
you can try to sell it at .0002 but i got over 10 mil * .00026 im looking at selling well above that after the contracts come out
Posted by Mack on :
awesome fat finger!!!!!
Posted by Fairly_New on :
OMG -- I about had a heartattack --- anyuone see the fat finger ---- Taking some Nitro now -- LOL
Posted by jack85 on :
for a second there i wanted to start crying fat finger .0015 had it ^1400%
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
HA! Almost fell out of my chair. Then "Reason" stepped up and thumped me in the head...
Posted by Fairly_New on :
ROFLMAO
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Yeah back to .0002
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
That's good, especially psychologically. It immediately spikes my portfolio into the green! Posted by Fairly_New on :
You think this fatfinger crab is done on purpose -- MM's telling something
2 in 1 day ??
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Hitting the MEDALERT button
Posted by johnny14511 on :
you can even buy more
even if you own somw already
if you buy at .0001 youll doulble at .0002
Posted by Jmoove on :
the bid is officially gone
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Is anyone able to sell at 2, though?
Posted by Fairly_New on :
quote:Originally posted by Fairly_New: You think this fatfinger crap is done on purpose -- MM's telling something
2 in 1 day ??
Anyone any thoughts on this
Posted by Polarbear17 on :
Do the math people 50 mil in contracts divided by o/s will give you a max of .005. I can easyily forsee 10 mil in contracts making a pps of about .001 to .0015 but thats it, .40 LOL and who put a PPS of $1.00 get real . Waiting for news no contracts and $$$$$. somebodys buying so they know something .
Posted by jack85 on :
vol just under 470mil
Posted by evokiosk on :
Polarbear ... did you mean you bought another $1.00's worth of shares? =)
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Those have to be buys if there is no bid right ???
Posted by kptmoe on :
these have to be sells
Posted by OO7 on :
I jUST GOT FILLED AT .0001, NOW BRINGS MY AVERAGE DOWN TO .000275. ANYDAY NOW FOR THEM CONTRACTS...
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Over 1/2 a Billion -- WTF is going on ?????
Posted by evokiosk on :
it seems like it is trading in the .00009's==scottrade is giving a bid signal of "--1.00" what in gods name does two "--" mean next to a "1.00"
Posted by dalton05 on :
Well IMHO if they get contracts i don't care what the o/s is with this i think it will take off.The volume is huge today so either someone knows something or a group got ahold of this.I own some of this so if they are ready to say they have some contracts great but,if its just a group playing this i don't think the price will change.
Posted by Jmoove on :
no group is doing anything with this I can guarantee that, its been all sells besides the last 40 mill or so at 1! Either we get contracts or we stay here, so i suggest that you all stop trying to analyze something that does not need to be analyzed at all, and put your energy into something else. This is my last post on this topic till news, i think it will keep your stress levels down if some of you do the same and stop thinking about this and watching ever tick
Posted by Polarbear17 on :
No. I'm sitting holding 500k right now at an average of .000244 so i think i'm in good shape for any rise in PPS. Waiting on news like every body else.
Posted by Fairly_New on :
over 700 MIL and .0001 ask -- this is crazy
Posted by evokiosk on :
no actually it's very comment and not unusual at all!! j/k
Posted by evokiosk on :
i mean to say "common" ... nevermind
i'm still wondering why etrade says
Bid (size) 0.0000 (x0)
Posted by kywee on :
quote:Originally posted by Jmoove: no group is doing anything with this I can guarantee that, its been all sells besides the last 40 mill or so at 1! Either we get contracts or we stay here, so i suggest that you all stop trying to analyze something that does not need to be analyzed at all, and put your energy into something else. This is my last post on this topic till news, i think it will keep your stress levels down if some of you do the same and stop thinking about this and watching ever tick
haha im glad someone is in the right state of mind as i.
i cant believe you all are saying "someone" knows something and they are buying...its almost ALL sells. i couldnt believe it when i was watching blocks on 23million go through. i thought the max was 9999999.
its so funny reading this thread
Posted by OO7 on :
sells are a good thing....It brought down the ask. good for me to average down to eventually get out of this trap.
Posted by andrew on :
Hey guys I am new at this but damn...I just bought 1,150,000 shares for $115 at .0001. Is this stock exspected to pop? Lets all retire real soon.. Thanks for any input.
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
3/4 of a BILLION shares traded so far, anyone taking odds on over a BILLION served..... This out sells McDonalds burgers....LOL
Posted by kywee on :
you can retire with $115?
Posted by OO7 on :
lol now thats a good one Kywee.
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
How do you spell, that sound one makes in the back of ones throat, when you try to laugh without really laughing.....
Ky - I would be happy with $115 AND one of those BIG MACS that McDonalds sells less of than this thing trading today....ROFL
Posted by evokiosk on :
honestly I wish I got to pay .0001 ... I paid .0005 and it sucks
Posted by OO7 on :
I believe thats ha ha ha, compared to a happy laugh, hehehe or lol
Posted by andrew on :
no i am not saying you can retire with $115... or am I.....BWWWaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
no - it's kind of like when you clear your throat, but in a laughing kind of way...
Evo - I'm truly sorry man....
I lost almost 3K on this one myself, bak in for $300 at 2 (1.5MM) to TRY and make up some of the loss....
GOOD LUCK!!
Posted by OO7 on :
Will it hit a billion??? looks like somebody wants out, could it be the Ceo?
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Ive tried to call Guthrie but of course no go
Posted by Rules on :
If I have to wait a year to get my money then that is what I am going to do.
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
nah -say it aint so man, say it aint so!!!!!!!!!!
Not Guthrie
Not for a lousy 100K - he wouldn't do that to us..
I think his momma raised him better than that....
Course he probably sold her a bill of goods too...
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Hey at least the ask went back to .0002 -- now maybe all the shares are dumped and we can move foreard from here
Posted by johnny14511 on :
quote:Originally posted by Rules: If I have to wait a year to get my money then that is what I am going to do.
ME TOO
Posted by Mack on :
ask that i see is sitting at .0003
Posted by jdog006 on :
quote:Originally posted by Rules: If I have to wait a year to get my money then that is what I am going to do.
I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but if you hold this stock for a year you will probably end up with almost nothing to show for it. How long do you think this stock will flounder about with 9 billion shares before they pull a R/S?
Either way it's no good. Either there are 9 billion shares and PPS never moves or else they pull a R/S and you lose your shares.
The forward split made no sense. I still don't get it. The CEO ran the stock price into the ground to protect it from NSS???? Make your stock worthless so that no one will short sell it. How does that make sense? I am very pleased that I only lost 50%. If I'd gone down with the ship I would have lost 85%+.
Posted by Fairly_New on :
just left Guthrie a "lovely" message -- he probably wont call me back -- hehehe
Posted by johnny14511 on :
HEHEHEHE WHAT DID YOU SAY ? LOL
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Hey guys, I understand your frustration with the stock price. And I'm sure any reasonable CEO would too.
If you are diplomatic with your communication skills, you are more likely to get results.
Just food for thought...
-Slip
Posted by Fairly_New on :
not if he is diluting and pushing people off with BS pr's -- slip I have been a firm believer and supporter of this company for 6 weeks now -- and will hold my position when everyone else sells off at .0003 -- So really you tellng me about communications skills is not needed -- I'm just calling him out -- why dont you try it
Posted by Andreas on :
Haven't tried to sell at 0.0002 yet. Just got 4MM for 0.0001 today, which pulls down my average to 0.000155
Now patience will be ruling for this.
Posted by johnny14511 on :
Commonwealth American Financial Group Announces Additional Fast Track Bidding
Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CWFG) announced today that its wholly owned subsidiary, Hawkesbury River Funding of Texas, has commenced bidding on additional projects worth several million dollars in the Louisiana region.
The Contracts involve Earthworks, Levee reconstruction, Road and Drainage Construction, and Street overlay work. Hawkesbury River will handle all bidding at its Dallas, Texas office. The company is preparing on a fast track basis several bids that are due in the next few weeks. Hawkesbury River has also requested local and regional firms to contact its Dallas office and provide relevant contract experience and corporate resumes that will be used in the bidding/construction process for these projects.
The company will participate on these projects in various capacities either as the General Contractor, Interim Lender or Joint Venture Partners. The company is continuing to build its team of experts to expedite the bidding process and enhance its rate of success.
Mr. Guthrie, President, said: "We are receiving and reviewing contract documents on a fast track basis and forming relationships with local and regional contractors that are able and willing to undertake the reconstruction work that is awarded to the company. We expect within the next several weeks a significant amount of bids will be awarded and we are taking the necessary measures to be fully prepared."
The mission of Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc. is to invest in land development projects either as developer, joint venture partner, or lender and create mezzanine-financing opportunities. The company will also grow by acquiring subsidiaries in related fields such as construction, real estate brokerage-appraisal-management, in Florida, Texas and Louisiana.
The Company has established a website http://www.cwmf.net and trades under the symbol (Pink Sheets:CWFG).
Forward Looking Statements:
This information includes forward-looking statements made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 that involve risks and uncertainties including, but not limited to, the impact of competitive products, the ability to meet customer demand, the ability to mange growth, acquisitions of technology, equipment, or human resources, the effect of economic and business conditions, and the ability to attract and retain skilled personnel as related to the industry. The Company is not obligated to revise or update any forward-looking statements in order to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this issue.
Commonwealth American Financial Group, St. Petersburg Damian Guthrie, 786-246-1077 Fax 727-895-8735
Source: Business Wire (October 17, 2005 - 9:08 AM EDT)
yeah Johnny we all read it -- your point ?
Posted by johnny14511 on :
today is the 2nd day that volume came up
it will stay like that for a while
youll regret selling at .0003
this is easily in the .0005-.0006 range
i want to buy more for .0001 but i already alot im undecided
Posted by johnny14511 on :
hey fairly what did you tell gurthie when you called him??????
lol
Posted by kywee on :
quote:Originally posted by johnny14511: today is the 2nd day that volume came up
it will stay like that for a while
youll regret selling at .0003
this is easily in the .0005-.0006 range
i want to buy more for .0001 but i already alot im undecided
wow...i would try to teach you otherwise, but its been said already
Posted by johnny14511 on :
what do you mean>?
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
quote:Originally posted by Fairly_New: not if he is diluting and pushing people off with BS pr's -- slip I have been a firm believer and supporter of this company for 6 weeks now -- and will hold my position when everyone else sells off at .0003 -- So really you tellng me about communications skills is not needed -- I'm just calling him out -- why dont you try it
I did. And I got a response within a half hour. Sending him an email and going right for the throat will get your email deleted before it's been open for 20 seconds.
If you really want to establish a line of communication with the guy, you'd be diplomatic and try and speak on his level. Then, as you swap a few emails, you can start poking a bit, and trying to find out more pertinent information.
Calling him out will get you nowhere.
-Slip
Posted by Rules on :
What is wrong with you people? I say let Guthrie take our money and be happy! Personally, I like being in the negative as it is a constant reminder of why I am such a loser:) Thank goodness I have a bottle to turn to when things look bleek.
Posted by kywee on :
quote:Originally posted by johnny14511: what do you mean>?
well, what is your reason behind your statements?
Posted by johnny14511 on :
i got you
never mind
i know hell just ignore b/s phone calls
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
quote:Originally posted by Rules: Thank goodness I have a bottle to turn to when things look bleek.
Oh man! If you really want to play in the big leagues, you're gonna need at LEAST one more bottle!
That bottle you've got will only get you through the fourth quarter! We've got a whole year of inflation to battle through! (Depending on who you ask!)
Just kidding.... Posted by Fairly_New on :
quote:Originally posted by Slippery Wing:
quote:Originally posted by Fairly_New: not if he is diluting and pushing people off with BS pr's -- slip I have been a firm believer and supporter of this company for 6 weeks now -- and will hold my position when everyone else sells off at .0003 -- So really you tellng me about communications skills is not needed -- I'm just calling him out -- why dont you try it
I did. And I got a response within a half hour. Sending him an email and going right for the throat will get your email deleted before it's been open for 20 seconds.
If you really want to establish a line of communication with the guy, you'd be diplomatic and try and speak on his level. Then, as you swap a few emails, you can start poking a bit, and trying to find out more pertinent information.
Calling him out will get you nowhere.
-Slip
OK master Slip -- When you got your response from him it was a couple of weeks ago when he was talking to everyone -- I, if you dont recall have spoken to Guthrie several times and have had a good business relationship.
So master Slip what wonderful "pertinent" news have you uncovered, I'm sure ALL the shareholders of CWFG would like to know Posted by johnny14511 on :
all i know is that the ask is at .0003
Posted by Fairly_New on :
The ask has been at three a couple of times -- I would like to think that if another 1/2 Bil is traded this will rise -- but who knows -- Maybe Slip does -- LOL
Posted by 37Black on :
I'm not selling till it hits a dollar!
Just wanted to wake everyone up...lol
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
I see, so now you're calling ME out. That's OK with me. I can take it.
Posted by evokiosk on :
Can't we all just get along? i bet Guthrie is swimming around in his money bin full of our money right now... i'm going to mix myself a drink.
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
GEEZ - we're all in this thing together, one day up 50%, next day down 50%. Everyone needs to lighten up. Guthrie hasn't called me back, and that's fine with me.
We ALL need to chill out!!
Whatever happens, happens. Up, Down, Stay still, if someone wants out at 1,2,3 or whatever, dam, who among us has been right 100% of the time? Sure as heck not me!!
"Why can't we be friends, why can't we be friends, I know you're working for the CIA, they would not have you in the MAFIAAAA, why can't we be friends, why can't we be friends...."
I will continue to read this thread, but my posts will definately diminish. I thought the whole idea of this was to try and help each other, not continuosly blame each other....
Like a bunch of old women in a room full of rockin chaors for sure....
All of us (myself INCLUDED) ought to be ashamed of ourselves for this BS run amuck on this stock.
It makes me sick to see the crap everyone is throwing at each other....
Posted by Fairly_New on :
I HUMBLY APOLOGIZE TO EVERYONE --- your right Green
Posted by evokiosk on :
Green's right,.. except I don't think I've ever been negative except to PolarBear. just kidding! =)
Posted by Lu01eg on :
Bush says small and minority businesses will get more relief work October 17, 2005
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Bush administration said Tuesday it would boost the number of contracts given to small and minority-owned businesses for Hurricane Katrina cleanup work, calling the amount now awarded too low.
The Federal Emergency Management Agency said it would set aside an allotment for disadvantaged businesses following its announcement last week that it would rebid millions of dollars in contracts handed out with little or no competition.
The initial $100 million contracts to be rebid were given to four major construction firms-Shaw Group Inc., Bechtel Corp., CH2M Hill Inc. and Fluor Corp.-which had prior relationships with the government.
The Commerce Department, meanwhile, announced a new information center and Web site to help smaller, disadvantaged firms get information about how to competitively bid for Katrina contracts.
The move follows criticism in recent weeks by minority businesses who said they were paying the price for the decision by Congress and the Bush administration to waive competition rules for many of the larger recovery contracts.
About 1.5 percent of the $1.6 billion awarded by the Federal Emergency Management Agency has gone to minority businesses, less than a third of the 5 percent normally required.
"This administration is reaching out to companies of all sizes, especially minority-owned enterprises, to guarantee that those seeking to join the rebuilding efforts can navigate federal agencies and bid for contracts with ease," said Commerce Secretary Carlos M. Gutierrez.
"We're looking to improve to make participation stronger," Gutierrez said. He said that would include the setting of numerical targets for minority participation, although a specific number had not yet been set.
Under the procedures detailed Tuesday by FEMA, federal officials will solicit competitive bids for remaining Katrina work. Contracts will be for five years, with preference given to small and minority-owned businesses.
"We will now use competitive strategies everywhere possible-placing priority on the use of local and small disadvantaged businesses-as we move into the long-term recovery phase," said Acting FEMA Director David Paulison
quote:Originally posted by Big Green 1: GEEZ - we're all in this thing together, one day up 50%, next day down 50%. Everyone needs to lighten up. Guthrie hasn't called me back, and that's fine with me.
We ALL need to chill out!!
Whatever happens, happens. Up, Down, Stay still, if someone wants out at 1,2,3 or whatever, dam, who among us has been right 100% of the time? Sure as heck not me!!
"Why can't we be friends, why can't we be friends, I know you're working for the CIA, they would not have you in the MAFIAAAA, why can't we be friends, why can't we be friends...."
I will continue to read this thread, but my posts will definately diminish. I thought the whole idea of this was to try and help each other, not continuosly blame each other....
Like a bunch of old women in a room full of rockin chaors for sure....
All of us (myself INCLUDED) ought to be ashamed of ourselves for this BS run amuck on this stock.
It makes me sick to see the crap everyone is throwing at each other....
the only crap being thrown here is CWFG shares
Posted by OO7 on :
GEEZ KYWEE? you and Big green have been the most positive posters with this stock since I bought into this trap! what gives?? why so negative now? the way I see it, if we give it time things will change and we may hit .001 or beyond. For me after this thing goes up. Im in and out in for less then a day!!! no matter what the stock.
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Just when I thought the dumping was done ? BAM 28 MIL traded --- LOL
Need a good laugh this morning
Posted by Mack on :
picked up 3.4 mil more * .0001....
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Good at least a buy !
Posted by JOELGA on :
Both the ask and bid are at 1?
Posted by johnny14511 on :
WTF?????
THERE AT .0001
ITS GOING DOWN TO MUCH
GURTHIE MUST FEEL LIKE SHHIT
Posted by Fairly_New on :
I's sure Guthrie has dumped some shares and he is fine -- $$$$ wise
Posted by Danny K on :
This stock should be moving in under a month or so, and really rockin january. I am in for a while. My avg is low enough to stick around for a while. Big greeen, whats green this week man??
Posted by Lucas Brachish on :
Alright, I was happily waiting for this to slowly scratch and claw its way up to 3 or 4 .... and now we're completely and utterly in 1 land. What's going on? Is it dilution? Who would dilute at these prices? Don't you need to pump BEFORE you dump? Or can we blame any of this on MMs trying to squeeze eveyrone out with fear tactics before the stock explodes with contract news? If that's what's going on, they've been squeezing us for months with a lot of amazing patience and care...
If people are actually buying lots of stock at 1 now (whereas before the price kept dropping to 1 but I couldn't actually buy at that price), then we're in bad shape -- it means profit-takers will be able to cash out for big gains every time this goes to 2, which in turns means this will never go beyond 2 and, eventually it'll never even go to 2 at all .... without a big contract, we'll be forever at 1.
Tell me I'm looking at this all wrong. Tell me we've got an inside track on this. That we know the stock will be pumped. That we know at least a small contract will come through....
This is a lousy stock-market day in general, so I expect CWFG to turn back around a bit after the market corrects itself, but if too many people buy in this cheap, then even with a good contract the tons of people selling at 2 for 100% gains will keep this stock tied down...
I'd like to buy in at 1 myself and average down, of course, but even that is beginning to look like a semi-risky move...
Here's hoping we finally get some contracts this month, and not CON-tracts. Eh?
[ October 19, 2005, 17:48: Message edited by: Lucas Brachish ]
Posted by Fairly_New on :
I'm with you Lucas -- I wanted to buy another 5Mill in shares to avg down -- But not now --
Posted by Jmoove on :
This is big guys and gals
Commonwealth American Financial Group Announces No Reverse Split; $10 Million New Bidding on Contracts Oct 20, 2005 8:48:00 AM Copyright Business Wire 2005
ST. PETERSBURG, Fla.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 20, 2005--
Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CWFG) announced today that its wholly owned subsidiary Hawkesbury River Funding of Texas, has commenced bidding on projects worth approximately 10 million dollars in the Louisiana region.
The total value of Contracts that Hawkesbury River Funding of Texas is currently bidding on exceeds 16 million dollars. The new construction work involves civil engineering work including, roads and drainage reconstruction and new utilities construction including sewerage, water and electrical construction. Hawkesbury River will handle all bidding at its Dallas, Texas office. The company is preparing additional bids and will meet weekly bid schedules.
Mr. Guthrie, President, said: "we have no plans to undertake a reverse split in Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc. at this time. We would like to express our commitment to the shareholders that have continued to support the company in the last couple of months."
The mission of Commonwealth American Financial Group,Inc. is to invest in land development projects either as developer, joint venture partner, or lender and create mezzanine-financing opportunities. The company will also grow by acquiring subsidiaries in related fields such as construction, real estate brokerage-appraisal-management, in Florida, Texas and Louisiana.
The Company has established a website http://www.cwmf.net and trades under the symbol (Pink Sheets:CWFG).
FORWARD LOOKING STATEMENTS: This information includes forward-looking statements made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 that involve risks and uncertainties including, but not limited to, the impact of competitive products, the ability to meet customer demand, the ability to mange growth, acquisitions of technology, equipment, or human resources, the effect of economic and business conditions, and the ability to attract and retain skilled personnel as related to the industry. The Company is not obligated to revise or update any forward-looking statements in order to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this issue.
Source: Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc.
---------------------------------------------- Commonwealth American Financial Group St. Petersburg Damian Guthrie 786-246-1077 or Fax 727-895-8735
Posted by Jmoove on :
the announcement of no r/s is the big part of this
Posted by matto on :
we should see .0002 by .0003 by the end of the day.
Posted by Jmoove on :
need some vol today, announcing no R/S is about the next best thing to announcing contracts
Posted by matto on :
Just be careful there is a key piece to that sentence!
" AT THIS TIME" Posted by Jmoove on :
yup, but all we need is a little confidence, HDSN is off the ask of 1
Posted by matto on :
ACTION THATS WHAT I LIKE TO SEE!!!!!
Posted by Jmoove on :
etrd on the bid now
Posted by Jmoove on :
nite on the bid now, solid buys
Posted by matto on :
L2 pleeeese
Posted by Jmoove on :
1x2 2x3
Posted by InvestorSP on :
is everyone gonna hold a little longer or sell around .0003?
Posted by matto on :
why is this not moving on all these buys! very nice comunication skillsmoove!
Posted by QuestSolver on :
sorry guys I did not know you had a thread already!
its a pinkie which I rarely ever play but this is worth a slice!!
Commonwealth American Financial Group Announces No Reverse Split; $10 Million New Bidding on Contracts
ST. PETERSBURG, Fla., Oct 20, 2005 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CWFG) announced today that its wholly owned subsidiary Hawkesbury River Funding of Texas, has commenced bidding on projects worth approximately 10 million dollars in the Louisiana region.
The total value of Contracts that Hawkesbury River Funding of Texas is currently bidding on exceeds 16 million dollars. The new construction work involves civil engineering work including, roads and drainage reconstruction and new utilities construction including sewerage, water and electrical construction. Hawkesbury River will handle all bidding at its Dallas, Texas office. The company is preparing additional bids and will meet weekly bid schedules.
Mr. Guthrie, President, said: "we have no plans to undertake a reverse split in Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc. at this time. We would like to express our commitment to the shareholders that have continued to support the company in the last couple of months."
The mission of Commonwealth American Financial Group,Inc. is to invest in land development projects either as developer, joint venture partner, or lender and create mezzanine-financing opportunities. The company will also grow by acquiring subsidiaries in related fields such as construction, real estate brokerage-appraisal-management, in Florida, Texas and Louisiana.
Posted by matto on :
hopfully it moves!!!!!!!!
Posted by dalton05 on :
I am going to hold for a while.I like the fact that the contracts are comming in and that they in my opinion are going after a lot more which will result in the stock price.
Posted by Jmoove on :
schb on the bid now
1x2 3x3
Posted by Jmoove on :
we are going to need about 100 mill in vol at the ask to chew through .0002 i think
Posted by QuestSolver on :
plenty of work down here and they will be throwing contracts around to many,hell even the sub contractors will be doing good imo.
Posted by matto on :
once we see a contract this will fly! untill then maybe we can chew through .0002
Posted by Jmoove on :
1x2 4x3
hdsn on the bid
Posted by JIF on :
I'm holding until at least 4.
Maybe half at 4 and the other half at 6 or 8.
I think one solid pr about a reconstruction project and we're there.
Posted by Jmoove on :
need some volume
Posted by QuestSolver on :
I remeber buying QBID as a joke,I spent $100 at .0001 and made a killing off that when it broke a penny,tell me I wasn't in shock!! This is worth some spare change for sure,I picked up 10m and I will let it sit!
Posted by matto on :
i did the same thing with qbid 25mil shares 2,500 investment sold at .027 New house truck and more. This may do the same if strong contract!!!
Posted by Jmoove on :
hdsn off the ask
1x2 4x2
Posted by Jmoove on :
cmon give me some volume
Posted by dalton05 on :
I think a lot of people are waiting on the sidelines to see what this is going to do.I think if they raise the bid/ask everyone will jump on this and the volume will go crazy.
Posted by Jmoove on :
wish some of the inactive mms would join the bid at 1, would be nice to see 7 or 8 on the bid
nite just moved from 3 to 4
ask
2x2 3 4x2 .01
Posted by matto on :
no sells lets move b&a
Posted by Jmoove on :
need some serious vol to bump etrd and tasl off the ask of 2, imho
Posted by matto on :
57 mil "slow but sure wins the race"!!!!
Posted by Jmoove on :
niiice
1x3 5x3
guess it didnt take much vol at all
Posted by bmarley5780 on :
NIce- im back in on this one guys.....
Posted by Jmoove on :
we get a couple of mms on the bid at 2 this might actually really start to move
Posted by Jmoove on :
im gonna shoot HDSN, hes back on the ask at 2
Posted by Danny K on :
glad to see that PR. they are bidding 16M, and i dont see one bid being less than 500K just due to the sheer fact 500K wont even cover a very small building. My guess, contracts are at LEAST 1.5M each. and with this many contracts, they are bound to at least get a couple.i owouldnt mind 16M in contracts and a PPS of .01 lol... What would 8M in contracts do to the PPS, anyone know how to guesstimate this?
Posted by jack85 on :
guesstimate thats a good one dan!
My take is that the 10mil in LA may bump it to .0004 or 5 The other 16mil in TX may take it to .001+ if they get the full amounts they're bidding for
Posted by Danny K on :
thats it? with 20M+ in contracts that all u think it will run to? Now how exactly would actual revs of 20M effect the PPS?
Posted by Fairly_New on :
It will run as high as the MM's will allow and as much as we make it with buying pressure --
Posted by JIF on :
maybe a nice week next week!
Posted by JOELGA on :
Guys, remember that stocks, especially pennies do not necessarily reflect the actual worth of the contracts or revenue that they receive. It is all HYPE, so the price depends on market trends and how the investors view the potential worth of a stock. My guess is that companies rebuilding in TX and LO will be a market trend for at least a year and then will move on. So, we should be in good shape until then. So my guess is that we could potentially see anywhere from 0005 to 001 short term, depending on the hype of course.
Posted by Jmoove on :
figure the market cap for a rough pps estimate (even though market cap isnt the best way to analyze price, we have no other projections to go on so theres no need to analyze further, esp since we dont have "for sure" contracts)
9 bill shares x .0006 = $5.4 million
9 bill shares x .0010 = $9 million
9 bill shares x .0022 = $19.8 million
like ive said before a safe out is between 4 and 6
Posted by JIF on :
I would say the 5.4 million market cap is reasonable. And I'd be pleased as punch if the pps adjusted to .0006
Posted by JIF on :
0n a side note:
Anyone watching DDSI at .0003 - awesome buy in point.
And TNGO at .0005. Also very nice to me.
Posted by JOELGA on :
Bid up to 2! Lets move this thing
Posted by Jmoove on :
didnt last long :-(
Posted by JOELGA on :
sure didn't. Got my hopes up though
Posted by Fairly_New on :
What are the L2's looking like now
Posted by Persia on :
At least we had some movement and attention today.
Posted by bmarley5780 on :
110 mill
0001*0002
5*1
Posted by Fairly_New on :
almost 30MIL just went thru changed the ask to .0003
Posted by bmarley5780 on :
CWFG - best lotto ticket out there...
Posted by Jmoove on :
ive got neary 20 mill shares that agree with you marley lol
BUMP THE BID!
Posted by Fairly_New on :
see the MM's talking to each other -- has to be --- 1234 *.0003
Posted by Jmoove on :
strange 1234 trades just went through lol and a mirrored 6 mill trade at 3
Posted by Fairly_New on :
so did that freak everyone out that is thinking of buying -- lol -- no trades since then
Posted by Danny K on :
why do we have a 1/3 spread?
Posted by Danny K on :
i show a trade at 1239 for 1m * 2 and 1M * 3..... first trade since 12:23... anyone see that
Posted by Fairly_New on :
see all the mirror trades --- any clue whats up ?
Posted by Danny K on :
are mirror trades a matched buy and sell like that one at 12:39??
Posted by Fairly_New on :
i believe so
Posted by Fairly_New on :
hopefully we will get some after lunch action
COME ON CWFG !!!!!!
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
encouraging
Posted by Danny K on :
well i am outa here guys.. my ex girl, is making me feel like sh*t, and this isnt helping.. someone give me cell a call if we become rich this afternoon...lol... i am heading out for an afternoon of driving, and avoid gettin arrested..lol
GO CWFGGGGGG!!!!!!!! Posted by JIF on :
I am very happy to read their confidence about no reverse split. That's great news. I think they mentioned it because they wanted to reassure everyone about their sincerity in doing us all right.
It's good stuff. Very responsible on their part.
Posted by JIF on :
lets all hope for a pop here. It usually takes a day or two for everyone to react to the pr.
Posted by matto on :
well im back and i dont see a penny yet! I guess i will have to wait a little longer! oops they forgot to rasie the bid can someone make the call for me!!!!
Posted by JIF on :
come on 4!!!!
someone buy 100bucks at 4! raise it up!
Posted by Fairly_New on :
damn looks like the momo stopped -- i think if bid was at 2 maybe more buys would come in at 3
Posted by Fairly_New on :
see that BS -- looks like someone sold for .0001 must have need the loss pretty bad
Posted by Fairly_New on :
lots of volumn pouring in last 10 min -- took the ask back to .0002
Posted by fishfarmer on :
Looking up!!! Rollum boys and girls. Posted by bmarley5780 on :
blah
Posted by jack85 on :
whats going on! my ST acct shows ask back to 1 and bid at --1.00
Posted by dalton05 on :
both bid and ask at .0001
Posted by johnny14511 on :
ITS GOING TO TAKE A WHILE TO GET IT UP
ALL THE PEOPLE THAT BOUGHT AT .0002//HAHAHAHA
Posted by Fairly_New on :
WTF -- damn i walk away for a minuet and someone unloads a gazillion shares
Posted by bmarley5780 on :
Was there really a need for that comment Johnny Boy?
Posted by johnny14511 on :
NO I WASNT REALLY THINKING ABOUT YOUS WHEN I SAID IT I WAS THINKING ABOUT ALL THE PEOPLE WORLWIDE
Posted by Persia on :
Are you in this Johnny? If yes, show some respect, if not, the same. Thanks!
Posted by johnny14511 on :
DONT WORRY I BOUGHT THIS AT .0005
THIS STOCK ALWAYS HAS HAD A PROBLEM THAT THE AQSK IS HIGHER THAN THE BID
Posted by johnny14511 on :
IM STILL HOLDING
IM EVEN THINKING OF BUYING 30 MORE MILLION SHARES
BUT MAN ITS HARD TO WAIT ON 70 MILLION
Posted by kilerb on :
Either way, the buy went back up to .0002 because I put in an order for .0001... Typical! "Yous?" LOL!
Posted by johnny14511 on :
IM DOWN 9 THOSAND COULD HAVE BOUGHT A CAR WITH THAT
Posted by johnny14511 on :
YOU SEE HOW THE BID NEVER MOVES FROM .0001 WTF?
Posted by Elia on :
Dude no reason you should have let it go down that far. ALWAYS protect your investment.
Posted by kilerb on :
Damn Johnny... Yous was crazy for this stock!
Posted by bmarley5780 on :
quote:Originally posted by johnny14511: DONT WORRY I BOUGHT THIS AT .0005
THIS STOCK ALWAYS HAS HAD A PROBLEM THAT THE AQSK IS HIGHER THAN THE BID
Um yeah that is how the B/A usually is!! How do u think the MM's make their money?
LOL
Posted by johnny14511 on :
WHATS B/A?
Posted by kilerb on :
i'm no expert, but bid/ask? Did you make a grand today Johnny??
Posted by Fairly_New on :
dang anyone see that 50000 share sale -- took us right back to 1
Posted by johnny14511 on :
NOT YET BUT IM WORKING ON CLBE
Posted by johnny14511 on :
I DONT THINK THERE WAS ANY MOMO THIS STOCK TODAY
Posted by bmarley5780 on :
weird
very weird
Posted by Lucas Brachish on :
We just had a forward split not that long ago -- and probably dilution before, during or after -- were we supposed to be worried that they'd screw us over completely with a reverse split this soon? The way I read this press release, it seems like they're saying, out of no where, "Hey, we've decided not to absolutey destroy our shareholders TODAY. But in the near future we can't say for sure. Probably we won't RS you too soon, but this PR shows that we were thinking about it... Now please close your eyes while we get a couple of you to buy at 2 before slamming the price back to 1."
Or am I being too cynical? Or did I miss something earlier? Is this really a great PR release that spells certain success for all of us?
I wonder how many other companies are competing for these same contracts -- that could make a big difference on how we estimate the potential here. If contracts are split evenly and CWFG is only going up against 3 companies, that';s one thing -- if they're going against 10,000, well, that's another story.
I've got a spread of limit sell orders our there ranging from 3 to 9 now. I thought maybe I'd see some bites at the lower end since everyone is so excited about this PR and the columne was high -- so what a kick in the teeth the drops back to 1 are!
Maybe we'll get a big end-of-the-week run.... Posted by Danny K on :
^^^^^ i dont see that coming from outa nowhere. its a topic thats been discussed over almost 2 months and several thousands posts.lol. i am glad to see that, and i hope the reason for MrG including that in his PR is due to the fact the he reads the boards and listens to his voicemail and understands our concern about an RS, therefor he released a PR that gives us confidence about there not going to be a PR. at leasts thats what i think.
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by Danny K: ^^^^^ i dont see that coming from outa nowhere. its a topic thats been discussed over almost 2 months and several thousands posts.lol. i am glad to see that, and i hope the reason for MrG including that in his PR is due to the fact the he reads the boards and listens to his voicemail and understands our concern about an RS, therefor he released a PR that gives us confidence about there not going to be a PR. at leasts thats what i think.
What he said Let Guthrie do what he has to do instead of field nasty grams all day. He is listening and knows that we do not want a R/S. If you are going to pester him, then try to convince him to retire shares as that would really make this stock fly!
Posted by youngface on :
quote:Originally posted by Lucas Brachish: Alright, I was happily waiting for this to slowly scratch and claw its way up to 3 or 4 .... and now we're completely and utterly in 1 land. What's going on? If people are actually buying lots of stock at 1 now (whereas before the price kept dropping to 1 but I couldn't actually buy at that price), then we're in bad shape -- it means profit-takers will be able to cash out for big gains every time this goes to 2, which in turns means this will never go beyond 2 and, eventually it'll never even go to 2 at all .... without a big contract, we'll be forever at 1.
Tell me I'm looking at this all wrong. Tell me we've got an inside track on this. That we know the stock will be pumped. That we know at least a small contract will come through....
This is a lousy stock-market day in general, so I expect CWFG to turn back around a bit after the market corrects itself, but if too many people buy in this cheap, then even with a good contract the tons of people selling at 2 for 100% gains will keep this stock tied down...
I'd like to buy in at 1 myself and average down, of course, but even that is beginning to look like a semi-risky move...
Here's hoping we finally get some contracts this month, and not CON-tracts. Eh?
Yeah I agree and I'm out with a small lose, good luck all...
Posted by matto on :
There is no reason for this to go up today!!!! the pr said nothing about the profit or the value of the stock! STOCKS ONLY MOVE ON VALUE OR PROFIT! johnny and all others, only invest what you can afford to lose. That is the first rule of pennys.We waited on qbid for 1.5 years then hey, we were RICH if you feel this company has no value why are you even here!!You need to do your own dd and make a logical business decision that will only benifit YOU!!! If you guys and gals run without making a profit then you made a poor decision! Well I said my piece and i will be here before the contracts and after because it is a logical investment in my eyes! thanks and have a good evening!
Posted by andrew on :
What will it take for this stock to reach .01? Is it an issue of supply and demand? Will it be actual signed contracts for this baby to really pop? Will it be a positive profitable 4th quarter? PR is there..... Someone please help me.....Im losing it man :-{
Posted by agrimac on :
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Posted by matto on :
only money can make money!!!! its as easy as that! look at wdam gov contract where did it start where is it now in two weeks. HEHEHE
Posted by matto on :
you want somthing that goes up and down because people talk about play cali gl.
Posted by Fairly_New on :
LOL Matto --- I'm starting to like you on this board
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Heres to another non PPS moving 1/2 Billion in volume day --- LOL
GLT everyone --- Lets have a green day
Posted by Danny K on :
does it not move with all that vol becuase of the OS?
Posted by Rules on :
Roses are red, violets are blue, I smell this stock moving up today, how about u?
Posted by JIF on :
me too!
Posted by JIF on :
I could see us bouncing to 5 - crazy, I know, but I could see it!
On another note - anyone looking at ddsi at .0003. Man, what a steal!
Posted by Lucas Brachish on :
quote:Originally posted by matto: only money can make money!!!! its as easy as that! look at wdam gov contract where did it start where is it now in two weeks. HEHEHE
Oy. Don't rub it in. I bought WDAM and held it for two months and sold it at a LOSS. And then, finally, the bloody thing pops the way I'd expected when I bought it -- after I'd sold every last share. I woulda been bloody rich if I'd held it for just a little longer. Like two weeks more.... That's all it needed to run...
In fact, that's a major reason why I'm holding CWFG and a couple of others right now, despite my better instincts. Hate to sell at a loss again just to see it run, especially when we're at rock-bottom right now anyway, so it's not like the floor is going to fall out from under us any more than it already has (unless they do the RS that they promised they wouldn't do).
[singing] Contracts.... someone please give CWFG some connnnntractssssss...[singing] Posted by JIF on :
Yup Lucas exact same thing happened to me. I sold DDSI and TNGO the day before they both started a 400% uptick. If I had held for just one more week, I would have made about 30k. As it was, I only made about 1k.
1K is 1k, Don't get me wrong - but it certainly didn't put me in another tax bracket.
Posted by matto on :
sorry for your loss if you believe in the company then hang in there.If you jump out to play somthing better you may take a loss!!!
Posted by dalton05 on :
Good point Matto.I did that when i got out of AMEP and SMTR.I hate to sell then my stocks go way up but the other side of the coin sometimes i hold for too long,it goes up and i get greedy thinking this will go even higher and it ends up going down.
Posted by matto on :
know you exit point before you enter. be realistic in your exit point as you are in your entry point! never look back it may go way higher. then again it may go lower.It all depends on the co. you are investing in! just my opinion!
Posted by johnny14511 on :
hey wheres that post that said cwfg will see 1.00 soon
hey that will be nice
Posted by matto on :
NO WAY!!JOHNNY NICE DREAM!and we all need them
Posted by Elia on :
quote:Originally posted by JIF: I could see us bouncing to 5 - crazy, I know, but I could see it!
On another note - anyone looking at ddsi at .0003. Man, what a steal!
Good luck getting in at 3 with ddsi, I tried and tried but I never get filled
Posted by johnny14511 on :
hey matto what about in a year ?
what do you predict?
Posted by matto on :
.03 if they stay true to growing thier co. It also could be .03 if they secure 10 mil. in contracts.
Posted by johnny14511 on :
we should buy a bunch of theese good .0001 stocks and come back in a year and check them out..
only the good ones they have no where to go but up
dont you think
Posted by matto on :
I dont think this co. will grow to millions in profits annually. However,if they secure contracts we make good.If they don't we are eating peanut butter and jelly.NOT FILET!
Posted by johnny14511 on :
yeah you have to be ready for a run to sell
if you leave it for long time you might miss opprtunity
Posted by matto on :
I need to know its a sound investment and then i watch all of them to make sure i dont let pennys slip away.
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
Matto-
How do you figure .03 w/$10MM in contracts?
.0011 MAYBE
$10MM divided by 9BB shares = 0.0011 at best
Posted by matto on :
It may be a pipe dream,but i have seen crazy things here ie.qbid and others.
Posted by Fairly_New on :
45 Mil in voulme -- were they buys or sell -- I dont have my streamer up
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
The math is simple - I would like to see .03 for sure, but the math is simple - it doesn't add up. Hell, even the new math they teach kids today isn't good enough to get this there....LOL
Posted by johnny14511 on :
.001 will be real good
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
YEAH - definately make back part of my 3K loss on this baby
Posted by johnny14511 on :
you say part?
what did you pay for this?
Posted by matto on :
I wish I new all the behind the seens happenings when a stock goes crazy!But i don't I have never seen a stock max out have you? In reality the math should work out but its never has yet.
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Johnny -- this stock went to .001 just on news that it rwecvd a FEMA # --- Why would anyone want to sell this between .0005 & .001 is beyond me
Posted by johnny14511 on :
yeah.....but this waiting..ummmmmmm.agggghhhhhhh
Posted by Danny K on :
this ran to 9 in one day on FEMA # news. i dont see why huge contract news cant throw this into the teens?!?!
Posted by johnny14511 on :
but when it runs to 9 was it a fat finger or it was the real thing
somethimes the number just changes and the b/a just stays down
Posted by johnny14511 on :
its maintainnig the .0002 in the ask...nice
hopefully no more .0001 orders
Posted by Danny K on :
just upticked, and 68M vol, what a jump
Posted by Fairly_New on :
hey Johnny -- it was B4 the split and no it was not fat fingeres -- it went to .0011 I believe
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
short lived
Posted by Danny K on :
95M vol and back to 1 Posted by johnny14511 on :
the bid and ask too?
i should have sold...lol
and bought again at .0001
Posted by Danny K on :
121Mvol... vol is rolling now, are these sells or buys?
Posted by dalton05 on :
starting to get some volume.Hopefully this is a good thing
Posted by johnny14511 on :
we dont need volume any volume at .0001
thats bad
Posted by matto on :
both buy and sell more sells though.people who bought yesterday and bailing today for a loss HEHEHEHE
Posted by Danny K on :
can u still buy at 1? does anyone know?
Posted by Waymore on :
What does fatfingers mean?I know it has something to do with the PPS getting screwed up.
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
someone had a fat finger on the keyboard and hit the wrong key
Posted by johnny14511 on :
its like when you see a ridiculous gain like a 10,530% percent gain but then it goes away after little bit.....its whn you see tremendous gain , but as a mistake......like if the fat finger pressed to many buttons at the time.lol
Posted by Waymore on :
lol,ok,thanks guys
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Man, after the last couple weeks, I could use a run in this stock for ABSOLUTELY NO REASON AT ALL!
Here's to wishin'.
Posted by johnny14511 on :
lets momo it
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Isn't that what we're doin?
Posted by Lucas Brachish on :
There was so much excitement about CWFG yesterday... I'm kinda suprised that all the buy-ins from yesterday are bailing already... High volume but no significant price movement...
Posted by johnny14511 on :
we should start little group and buy like 5000 shares at the ask price for a whole day or a couple days ...lol
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
I'm all for it if you pay my commission!
Posted by johnny14511 on :
get a cheap commision like choicetrade
Posted by Danny K on :
or call ameritrade and yell at them, tell them ur switching if u dont get 15 free trades.. lol
Posted by johnny14511 on :
does it work????
Posted by Otttoman on :
When is this dog going to fly? I need it to get back to 0.0008 just to break even. Listened to the bad advice about how this was going to climb before the FS and bought into it, just to see it nosedive to the curent levels after the split. With 9 billion OS, is there even a snowballs chance that this will ever get back up to the 0.001 area? That's alot of contracts IMO. I'm waiting but not hopeful. Anyone have a good feeling about this?
Posted by johnny14511 on :
yeah been holding long too
Posted by Lu01eg on :
I asked this question before in here and didn't receive an answer, so I am going to try again. When I open the T&S window on my Scottrade page, the trades show up in four colors, Brown, Green, Yellow and Blue. Can any of you tell me what these colors indicate?
Posted by johnny14511 on :
red is sell green is buy
i dont know what the rest are
anybody
Posted by Lu01eg on :
What I see as Brown ust be red. At 11:15:47 100000 * .0002 and it was blue. * 10:23:09 9000000 * .0001 and it was Yellow.
Posted by johnny14511 on :
i think their sell orders or hold sometging
Posted by fishfarmer on :
Yellow is high or low for the day and brown is the color of this stock. Posted by buckstalker on :
LMAO...
Posted by Rules on :
Hmmm, I have never seen green before wonder what that looks like????
Posted by johnny14511 on :
Posted by Rules on :
More news out on this fine gem. Enjoy as the stock should fly!
"Common Wealth is pleased to announce they are thinking about something to enhance shareholder value. If anyone has experience in figuring out what that something is, please contact the company directly at 1-800-MMsR-poop."
Posted by johnny14511 on :
call them rules
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by johnny14511: call them rules
I did and all I get is a flushing toilet sound?????? How does a freakin stock trade nearly half a billion shares each day and goes no where??? How is that possible?
Posted by johnny14511 on :
its all gurthies fault
we need a new ceo
Posted by Rules on :
Guthrie has proven that he has no ability to run a company. The PR's are pathetic and they are not getting any contracts worth more than $5. As a matter of fact, I would be surprised to see this stock around in the next few months as this ship has smacked the iceburg head on and is now taking on water. I'm so happy I own this stock cause without it I would probably be rich and very unhappy. Instead I am poor and unhappy about that lol. Posted by johnny14511 on :
not that extreme
some company problaby arent making their payments on the loans
Posted by johnny14511 on :
can we make a petition or something to get new ceo
lol
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by johnny14511: not that extreme
some company problaby arent making their payments on the loans
Guthrie has a proven track record for tanking and running stocks into the ground. Show me differently and then I will take back my words. Why else do you think this stock plummeted on no news. Yep, everyone realized who the captain of this titanic is. "Captain..........Captain......I see an iceburg dead ahead, what should we do." Guthrie..."this is the Titanic young man, nothing could sink us." Hmmm, I wonder how this story is going to turn out? THE END
Posted by fishfarmer on :
quote:Originally posted by Rules: More news out on this fine gem. Enjoy as the stock should fly!
"Common Wealth is pleased to announce they are thinking about something to enhance shareholder value. If anyone has experience in figuring out what that something is, please contact the company directly at 1-800-MMsR-poop."
Simple. Find a million suckers with $1.00 each.
Posted by Rules on :
317,215,665 shares traded and we are at .0001. Now tell me Guthrie is not diluting shares!
Posted by matto on :
WHY ARE YOU HERE???????? OH YOUR STUCK WAA YOU DID NOT INVEST PROPERLY,WE DON'T WANT TO HERE THIS CRAP.SELL AND MOVE ON AND LOSE MORE MONEY!
Posted by johnny14511 on :
lets do something about this gurthie azshole
Posted by matto on :
"Guthrie has proven that he has no ability to run a company" WHY DID YOU INVEST IF YOU NEW THAT?
Posted by kywee on :
why would you invest in a penny stock in the first place...
Posted by andrew on :
Will it be contracts? Supply and demand? PR is good. Whats it going to take? Will it ever pop? Im losing it man.....Someone help me figure this monster out...Will we ever be rich off this stock? arrrrrrgggghhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!
Posted by matto on :
feb news this co is at .03 cmsi
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Press Release Source: National Hospitality Group, Inc.
National Hospitality Group President, Damian Guthrie, Featured on MacReport.Net Tuesday February 1, 2005 9:33 am ET
ST. PETERSBERG, Fla., Feb. 1, 2005 (PRIMEZONE) -- National Hospitality Group, Inc. (Other OTC:NHGP.PK - News) announced today that the Company's President, Damian Guthrie, is currently featured in an on-line interview at MacReport.Net. Mr. Guthrie said Tampa Bay Mortgage Solutions, a wholly owned subsidiary of National Hospitality Group, has rates on loans between 12 and 18% plus points.
Posted by matto on :
NOW SHOW ME HIS FAILURES AND HIS POOR TRACK RECORD. i'LL GO 1 FOR 1 ON POSITIVE PERFORMANCE I HOPE THIS GOES TO .03 DONT YOU ENOUGH BASHING!
Posted by matto on :
sorry kywee you folks call it trade!
Posted by kywee on :
quote:Originally posted by matto: sorry kywee you folks call it trade!
i dont understand
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by matto: NOW SHOW ME HIS FAILURES AND HIS POOR TRACK RECORD. i'LL GO 1 FOR 1 ON POSITIVE PERFORMANCE I HOPE THIS GOES TO .03 DONT YOU ENOUGH BASHING!
Lol, this is funny My fellow newbie, I am longer on this stock then you are. Just because I state the obvious doesn't mean I am bashing. I am stuck on this stock just like everyone else. It feels good to vent every now and then. This stock sucks Posted by matto on :
"why would you invest in a penny stock in the first place". i keep using the word invest thats why i thought you posted above quote.
Posted by Rules on :
Btw newb, show where Big Apple Worldwide, Inc. is now?? That's right CMSI doesn't exist anymore so now I am back on top........ur turn!
Posted by johnny14511 on :
bbut when it does go up ..everybody gonna wantto sell..and some people wont get filled and a disaster
how does it work who gets filled faster
Posted by matto on :
Agreed the stock sucks but if all on this tread keep hearing garbage they will sell for a loss and i am not as new as may think! just saying go easy please!
Posted by kywee on :
i understand now, thanks
Posted by johnny14511 on :
is it by order who ever placed the sell order first
Posted by dalton05 on :
Everything will be fine.Just say these words fast 3 timeS OIL,BEEF,HOOKED.
Posted by matto on :
I made 8,500 before shop closed up,dude i know its not going to be a 1.00 stock or last forever.
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by matto: Agreed the stock sucks but if all on this tread keep hearing garbage they will sell for a loss and i am not as new as may think! just saying go easy please!
Hey I understand I will refrain from spouting off as I know others are on this stock just as much and in some cases more than I am. I just don't get how we have such high volume and we are not going anywhere.
Posted by johnny14511 on :
did you see the bid was at 1.00
ohh shiit
Posted by matto on :
We will eat shrimp or mac and cheese on this! I want shrimp.You all are great it does feel good to let frustration out. lol
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by matto: We will eat shrimp or mac and cheese on this! I want shrimp.You all are great it does feel good to let frustration out. lol
Lol Posted by johnny14511 on :
did you see the bid was at 1.00 for a bit
ohh shiit
Posted by kywee on :
its not going anywhere because its diluted and the OS increased by 50% in the last split. im not saying you cant buy this, but there are so many opportunities out there every day that you could be making money with. its not fun having to wait for a stock to go up
Posted by matto on :
traders dont hang around! in and out. dinner is mac & cheese! again!
Posted by matto on :
I think we are all stuck.If we left for profit when we had the chance and not wait for the explosion we would no have this cash tied up and would be eating shrimp! BUT WE WAIT FOR THE BOMB HOPEFULLY ITS NOT A DUD.
Posted by johnny14511 on :
anybody know why the bid was at 1.00 for an instance
Posted by Rules on :
I am hoping that we have some buyers at 1.00 just to see what happens.
Posted by dalton05 on :
I Started with 1 grand in my portfolio.After all the splits reverse and foward that i have gone through in the past year i have 150 bucks in my account now.Oh well i guess you live and learn,these stocks are daytrading stocks not long term stocks.I have shares in a lot of these companies but not worth enough to sell because even the 7 dollar commision would wipe me out.But i still hold for that glimmer of hope that someday one of these stocks will skyrocket,just one to make my money back then i would change things.Saying that i still like reading everyones post because i know where most people stand.
Posted by Rules on :
I started with 1 grand in CWFG and now it is worth $212 lol. I am fairly certain I am not selling now.
Posted by Rules on :
I started with 1 grand in CWFG and now it is worth $212 lol. I am fairly certain I am not selling now.
Posted by JIF on :
Im not sure why anyone is bashing - the stock is trading for the lowest amount humanly possible. If you don't like the stock, then get out, but don't bash a stock at .0001.
You're waisting your time.
Also, I just bought more - 500bucks at .0001. It's going to go to .0002 and I'll double my money - it just doesn't get any better than that!
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by JIF: Im not sure why anyone is bashing - the stock is trading for the lowest amount humanly possible. If you don't like the stock, then get out, but don't bash a stock at .0001.
You're waisting your time.
Also, I just bought more - 500bucks at .0001. It's going to go to .0002 and I'll double my money - it just doesn't get any better than that!
Lol, I am not wasting my time as I have nothing better to do with my money Posted by Pretorian on :
Guys, I don't know what to think anymore. On the one hand it all looks like the share will go up...but with 9 billion out there.......how will we ever cash it? Even if the stock were to reach 0.15.....people will be all too happy to undersell at 0.015 or even less....ending up making no or very little money for all of us. The forward was a really, really stupid thing. That's just my opinion.
Posted by Rules on :
Any buys at 1?
Posted by Pretorian on :
....and by the way....those thinking that buying at 0.0001 will make them profit at 0.0002 are a bit too optimistic......the stock needs to reach 0.0003 for them to be able to sell at 0.0002.........
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
Pre-
First and foremost, STOP THINKING!! - Last time I thought about ANYTHING was 26 years ago...wound up getting married, swore off thinking ever since...
Second - this one is a long term hold. Understand that the market will bear whatever price we end up at. As far as the F/S, well, Guthrie needed the money for his lear jet payment, so we got stuck holding the hose....
Third - Just try to hang in there. My daddy used to tell me, "son, cheer up things could be worse"....sure enough, I cheered up and this got worse....LOL
Posted by InvestorSP on :
i'm still new at this but what does it mean when B/A is 0x5000?
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
Pre - you are incorrect as far as sellnig at 2, several of us have done that in the past couple of weeks, and the only 3 showing was a mirror trade...3 has not even shown many times at all for sell at 2 with this one...
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by InvestorSP: i'm still new at this but what does it mean when B/A is 0x5000?
That means their isn't a minimum on the sell side and the minimum on the ask price is 5000 shares.
Bid/Ask 0/5000 shares
Posted by kywee on :
pret, you can sell at the ask, so even if the ask is .0002 you have a "chance" of selling it.
i would like to know why this is a long term hold?
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
Thanks for clearifying that Rules... I thought it meant Big ...LOL
Seriously, I had no idea either Does it indicate the MM's last trade?
Posted by Pretorian on :
Ooops.....! Didn't know that 'Green...'cause with Etrade selling at 2 is wishful thinking but if you say so.... Then there are a few lucky guys out there!
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
that's ok - if you look, there is an old thread started by me on this stock...I dont remember who it was ,but they indicated that they got sold at 2, it took one guy a week, but it has happened... GOOD LUCK!!
Posted by Rules on :
Stars people I want stars for giving out this kind of knowledge!
Posted by Rules on :
Last 30 minutes........this stock is going to take off I can feel it!
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
Your Ratings of Others
5 Stars
Rules
I'm already there buddy - I wouldn't mind a few more votes myself....LOL
Posted by JIF on :
quote:Originally posted by Pretorian: ....and by the way....those thinking that buying at 0.0001 will make them profit at 0.0002 are a bit too optimistic......the stock needs to reach 0.0003 for them to be able to sell at 0.0002.........
Yes - but check the chart, it was at .0003 yesterday.
So, it's not a big deal. It pops to .0003 every few days.
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by Big Green 1: Your Ratings of Others
5 Stars
Rules
I'm already there buddy - I wouldn't mind a few more votes myself....LOL
Yea we already gave each other 5 stars. I am not sure how he did it, but one of MOMO's bungholes was able to drop my stars down from 5 to 3. Not a big deal as it means EVERYTHING to me. Now my self confidence is almost as low as this stock. Posted by Otttoman on :
Anyone able to buy today at 0.0001?
Posted by so uh wheres ma money on :
I bought some at .0001.. and so did my co-worker.
Posted by Pretorian on :
quote:Originally posted by Rules: Last 30 minutes........this stock is going to take off I can feel it!
....so far no one is running! Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by Pretorian:
quote:Originally posted by Rules: Last 30 minutes........this stock is going to take off I can feel it!
....so far no one is running!
Lol, sorry I was thinking of another stock. Posted by Pretorian on :
quote:Originally posted by Rules:
quote:Originally posted by Pretorian:
quote:Originally posted by Rules: Last 30 minutes........this stock is going to take off I can feel it!
....so far no one is running!
Lol, sorry I was thinking of another stock.
....no probs....I am getting used to false hopes! Posted by Danny K on :
speaking of false hopes, i think this is runnin to .001 tomorrow... i gotta sell in a 2, we will see what happends.
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
It might run to 0.001 tomorrow, but good luck gettin' that sell in on a Saturday.
Just kidding, I know what you mean.
Why not put the sell in at 3? We've seen that this week...
Posted by Rules on :
I want to see some buys coming in before close these final minutes. Someone call Guthrie and ask him to buy shares instead of selling them.
Posted by Danny K on :
holy crap.. its friday!!! woot woot!!! thanks, that just made my day..lol ... oppsss, someone smack me.
u think 3 is better? has the bid hit 3?
Posted by Danny K on :
quote:Originally posted by Rules: I want to see some buys coming in before close these final minutes. Someone call Guthrie and ask him to buy shares instead of selling them.
exactly... buy back please.
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
We saw sales at 3 on the 17th.
Posted by Rules on :
Once again, there must be dilution as why would you have 540 million shares traded and no buys or sells the final hour? The last sell was at 3:08 pm.
Posted by Danny K on :
when they dilute who is dumping more shares into the market? the MMs or the company? i mean thats the basics of what happends right, just increase the OS?
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by Danny K: when they dilute who is dumping more shares into the market? the MMs or the company? i mean thats the basics of what happends right, just increase the OS?
I think both are dumping shares. There is no other explanation of why the stock is unable to move upwards from off of the bottom with extremely heavy volume.
Posted by Danny K on :
inless the B/S ratio is 1:1, right, wouldnt that make it not move?
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
Generally you are correct I believe Danny, however this one doesn't follow the rules...Instead of B/S, it's just BS, and it flows freely from Guthrie and his clan... Dam - I've become really negative about this one guys, and I really am sorry.
Posted by Danny K on :
yea, greenn hold up on all that.. although its funnny.. i gotta a few more weeks of waiting left in me, then on to the next..
Posted by Rules on :
Lol, yea you won't see me saying anything bad.
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
ROFL - LOL - OMG - I needed that!!!!!!!!!!
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THANKS RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
Posted by Danny K on :
chk ur PM green
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
done danny - check urs now
Posted by Danny K on :
ditto Green..
big news next week please. but i think we are still a week or so out atleast.. what do yall think.
Posted by so uh wheres ma money on :
As far as I can tell, for those lucky people got in at .0001, the most you'll lose in this is the opportunity cost of getting into other stocks. On the other hand, when a pr is released with contracts signed, we will be heavyly rewarded. Even if this only runs to .0004, on the conservative end, we are likely to make some good $$$.
For this reason, I think it is worth the wait and the risk to stay at least for couple of more weeks.. and wait for the anticipated PR.
Posted by johnny14511 on :
whats the best way if the ask it:.0002 bid is: .0001 can one sell at .0002
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
Johnny -
You can always put a LIMIT order in to your broker. I use Ameritrade, and when I put in a LIMIT order, I ALWAYS make it GTC (good till cancelled. They put 30 days out, so if my price comes in before the order expires, they will attempt to sell it...Also, I can make it GTC+EXT, which allows me to extend the 30 days out even farther if I feel the need.
The only problem with this type of order is, you have to be willing to take the initial price you put in, if you don't see a run. You can always cancel the order if you think the price will og up, and replace the order. You need to determine a sell price, then as is mentioned quite a lot here, take it, go to the bank, and don't look back.
Posted by Lucas Brachish on :
quote:Originally posted by JIF: ... the stock is trading for the lowest amount humanly possible... don't bash a stock at .0001. You're waisting your time. Also, I just bought more - 500bucks at .0001...
I foolishly chased this stock to the bottom before and after the forward split ("never chase even a good a stock down" they say, right?), averaging down but never selling ... but then I ran out of money before I could by at .0001. And then I had so much fath in the stock I didn't sell at 2 or 3 when those options were vaguely open. Looking back, I shoulda done that and bought back at 1, but I never dreamed there'd be an option to buy at 1 for this long...
But I'm holding out now for at least a three (my break-even point) or hopefully a 5+. Just need a contract for the company, right? How hard can that be....
But for all those who think that this can't get worse and that .0001 is "the lowest amount humanly possible," let us not forget that a 10-to-1 reverse split could conceivably leave us with 1/10th of what we have. So I'm not bashing, but from a factual standpoint, we CAN, regrettably, go lower than the current basement low.
(The PPS can't go lower, but an RS would leave us with less shares, which means less money if the new shares bottom back to .0001 as well. Which is why people were excited by that last PR that said the company wasn't planning on an RS.)
But I hadn't really taken any RS talk seriously before that, because they'd JUST bloody well done a FS and a lot of people here have faith in the company, so I'd figured, hey, only the most evil pond-bottom-eating scum would RS after a FS that bottomed-out the PPS. But then when the press release mentioned that they're weren't going to RS (not RS right now, anyway) it feaked me the *#&**^*& out because I hadn't thought that the concept wasn't even important enough to bring up in a PR this early after the FS. Damn.
And now all these signs of diulution (crazy volume, no PPS change).... very upsetting ... in fact, contrary to the pre-split claims, the forward-split was probably some sort of cover/distraction for massive dilution, in my paranoid opinion (IMPO).
But I've lost so much on CWFG that I'm determined to side with the optimists here, lest I start whacking people at my office with a stapler and cursing their mothers before taking their wallets.
Anyway, my AMEP holdings are looking sweeeeet.... and CWFG is gonna run in early November. RIGHT?! [whacks co-worker with stapler]
CWFG probably just needed to dilute so they could afford to buy off some guys at FEMA who are gonna award the company with 5000000 gazillion $$ in contracts and make us all rich. So that's cool with me.
[ October 21, 2005, 22:00: Message edited by: Lucas Brachish ]
Posted by Danny K on :
your last sentance sounds good lol
ohh and let the co-worker, staple wacking, fun begin... thats a great idea, i will remember to try that monday..lol have a good weekend everone. I am probably the only eastcoast guy still awake.. lol
Posted by Rules on :
Now see, I come on here to get away from the stress and then I have to read a stapler comment I just had to replace my car tire cause it had a staple in it. Now I am wondering if I was targeted by someone here Posted by Danny K on :
that was a biggggg staple. wow. and yes, i admit, it was me, but Lucas put me up to it lol yall having a good weekend so far?
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
Rules, listen dude, Danny says it was him, put up to it by Lucas, but I can tell you that it waqs a 8 guage wire staple, you know the kind they use to attach wires in a house during construction. It was 3/4 inch long, and 1 inch wide, shot from a Craftsman Pneumatic staple gun. The tire was a Firestone P50 R145/16, on a 2003 Ford Explorer, Dark Green in color, license # - Rules 123.... If that doesn't convince you it was me, the address was 85662 Lot 15 Pine Street....1998 Dark Blue Diamond Reo Double Wide, with a double wide Carport on the side, with a HUGE Charbroil BBQ, and overstuffed sofa on the patio...
Now, who did the dirty deed, Danny or Me....LOL
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by Big Green 1: Rules, listen dude, Danny says it was him, put up to it by Lucas, but I can tell you that it waqs a 8 guage wire staple, you know the kind they use to attach wires in a house during construction. It was 3/4 inch long, and 1 inch wide, shot from a Craftsman Pneumatic staple gun. The tire was a Firestone P50 R145/16, on a 2003 Ford Explorer, Dark Green in color, license # - Rules 123.... If that doesn't convince you it was me, the address was 85662 Lot 15 Pine Street....1998 Dark Blue Diamond Reo Double Wide, with a double wide Carport on the side, with a HUGE Charbroil BBQ, and overstuffed sofa on the patio...
Now, who did the dirty deed, Danny or Me....LOL
It was You Posted by Big Green 1 on :
hehehehehehehehe....
ONLY THE SHADOW KNOWS FOR SURE, and he ain't been on TV in 40+ years.....
Posted by Fairly_New on :
hehe
Posted by Danny K on :
ahhhh ahah.. i love down time in these forums!!
but really, when it comes down to it, Big G and I tag teamed it. We took out your explorer, we are gonna give your blue double wide a couple staples to the tires next.
then i am gonna drive up to columbus and chase BIg G around in the snow with a pnuematic stapler with the PSI all the way up
haha, that made no sense lol
Posted by Danny K on :
the shawdow??? hmmmm.. iam only 20 years old, so i guess i missed it by another 20, lol...
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Well you would think that Wilma (unfortunatly) will have a positive impact on our stock -- seeings it is in Guthries own back yard You would have to imagine that he has contacts all over Florida, if he is worth a grain of salt that is
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
HMMMMMMMM...Time will tell on that one...
Posted by Lucas Brachish on :
quote:Originally posted by Fairly_New: Well you would think that Wilma (unfortunatly) will have a positive impact on our stock -- seeing it is in Guthries own back yard . You would have to imagine that he has contacts all over Florida, if he is worth a grain of salt that is
Ain't that the truth. If Texas and New Orleans don't pay off for CWFG, maybe the FLA hurricane devastation will make this investment worth holding onto for a little longer. Stopping the dilution and buying back some stock wouldn't hurt either.
(Poor Florida, always getting whacked with storms. I should give all my relatives down there a call, come to think of it.)
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Looks like Guthrie needed some cash -- look at this -- Cash from CSON
Yes jihnny everyone has seen these sites -- one for residential and one for commercial --- same company
Posted by Danny K on :
HDSN just droped ask to 1, and ran 45M of vol in like 10 sec, then bumped the ask to 2 again. We need contracts...
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
It's these block trades that keep the stock from moving.
You'd think that 45 million in volume would have the PPS bouncing, but not when it's 45 million at one time.
Posted by Danny K on :
explain a little for me SLip. the 45M didnt do anything but drop the price, and it was 5 orders of 9M, does that mean anything?
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Not sure, probably not the guy to ask. But it sounds like it's MM's swapping shares...
Posted by Danny K on :
why do they do that, just so it looks like the stock has vol running through it or somthing? we havent had any vol since that 45M block.. hmm.. maybe JMoove can explain a little.
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Yeah, he really know's his L2's...
Posted by STOCKMOVER on :
Anyone who got in CWFG at .0001, are considered lucky? Can you sell at .0002? Will the shares actually sell?
Thanks,
Posted by Danny K on :
i have a sell in at two, and yes.. sells went through at 2 early last week.
i am tryin to flip this thing, inless news comes out, then i cancel my order. GL
Posted by STOCKMOVER on :
Danny K,
People are buying at 2 now it seems. Also can't you buy in at 1 anytime? I have been picking up some here and there for 1.
Posted by Danny K on :
yea, HDSN has dropped the ask twice today allready to .0001, so yes, u can buy at 1. as far as buying at 2, have only 75K shares go through today at 2. need news, most people are waiting to get in a 1, not 2, for obvious reason.. i dont blame them Posted by JIF on :
I was able to buy about 100bucks at .0001. but that was it.
Posted by JIF on :
i'm looking for this to bounce up to .0003 again today.
Posted by Danny K on :
that would be nice... then back to 1 so i can flip this beast. lol
Posted by Danny K on :
today is calm... hey west coast, did yall not wake uptoday or somthing?
Posted by dalton05 on :
We need some good news for this to move.
Posted by JIF on :
yup - like a pr about a contract award.
Posted by PhoenixStockMaster on :
Hmmmm. Anyone talk to Guthrie lately? We need to get some news ASAP.
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Guthrie's probably under water... Posted by Fairly_New on :
has there been any buys today ??
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
This just in -
Guthrie spotted chasing Sharks!!
Mr. Guthrie, CEO of Commonwealth Financial group was spotted this morning in Punta Gorda Florida, chasing a school of sharks. Witnesses reported hearing Guthrie screaming something about buys my company stock, it's a steal at 1!!!
It appears that even the sharks don't want to bite....LOL
Film at 11:00
Posted by Danny K on :
lol... Green, they will bite soon enough, with contracts. we all know this.
Posted by InvestorSP on :
what just happened? Posted by Big Green 1 on :
I missed it, anyone know what if anything happened...I had to step out for about 45 minutes..
Posted by Elia on :
I didn't see anything happen
Posted by agrimac on :
I am still searching for it
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
I can't find anything anywhere - no news, nothing....InvestorSP - what did you see anyway?
Posted by agrimac on :
I am still searching for it
Posted by InvestorSP on :
price dropped to 0.00 for a min or two, just caught me off guard for a min
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
what does that signify?
Posted by Elia on :
It usually means that the stock is getting ready to increase by a factor of 10.
Just kidding, it was probably just a hiccup with his brokerage.
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
I liked your first answer
May be dreaming, but that's about all we have left anyway! HA!
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
Great, now we get an increase by a factor of 10, and here I sit, having sold all 100 Million shares at $1.00 Each.. Dam - once again my timing sucks.....
Posted by Danny K on :
^^^ You only got a dollar per share for yours, man you did miss that. I just sold mine today for 63.5$ a share, so i think i am taking the day off tomorrow. yall have a good one.
lol
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
sure, now you gotta go and rub it in....and I know how many shares you had man.....I'm thinkin you need to pay for a charter cruise man!! LOL Talk to ya soon...
Posted by Fairly_New on :
And I thought the dumping was done -- guess I was wrong
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Yeah, we've still got huge blocks going through, just not as early in the day....
Posted by Pretorian on :
Guys,
What could be the highest price for this stock if indeed contracts of over 16 Millions happen? IMO, despite the 9 billions o/s , hype itself could to the best bring this share between 0.05-0.35. B/C I have seen a cie which has posted no single revenue for the past three years and yet surged from 0.10 to 2.91 in less than 6 months just on the hype generated by future contracts and potential growth......although it doesn't have 9 billions o/s....... So please share your thoughts on that.
Tks! Posted by Slippery Wing on :
I think it's a stretch. A big stretch.
With a TON of momentum, you could see 0.0005 - 0.0035
Just my opinion of course, but this ones been out in the open for a while, and people watched it tank, and is now hibernating on 0.0001.
There are so many more liquid plays out there...
Just my opinion, of course.
Posted by Polarbear17 on :
Just got filled again at .0001 , giving me 1 mil at .000175. Hopeing for news to push this to at least .0005.
Posted by Pretorian on :
quote:Originally posted by Slippery Wing: I think it's a stretch. A big stretch.
With a TON of momentum, you could see 0.0005 - 0.0035
Just my opinion of course, but this ones been out in the open for a while, and people watched it tank, and is now hibernating on 0.0001.
There are so many more liquid plays out there...
Just my opinion, of course.
...You have a point!... but on the other hand it did reach 0.0035 before-for a few moments though probably b/c of a fat finger-on just the FEMA pr.... It's just that this stock beats any knowledge I thought I had on stocks prices.....how can a stock has volume of over 2 billions in a week and remain at its lowest financially possible price, for weeks!!!????
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Yeah, that 0.0035 was a fat finger.
Posted by JIF on :
that's one fat finger! Like the fat guy from Austin Powers.
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
Well, let's see if Mr. Guthrie responds to my email....
Mr. Guthrie,
Good afternoon sir. My name is xxxx xxxxx, from Ohio, and I own several million shares of stock in your company. Several weeks ago, you promised that we would hear news from your meeting with Market Makers regarding the selling of ghost shares in your company leading up to the Forward Split.
Since then , we have not heard any results from that meeting. Also, we learned that some $10 million dollars of contract negotiations have been ongoing, and that "at this time" no Reserve Split is planned.
I have been involved in FEMA contract bid submissions in the past, for several corporations, and have not known of any such lengthy delay in securing bids for those contracts. All contracts are awarded within 45 days for initial cleanup, and restoration of primary services. Reconstruction contracts are, for the most part awarded within 60 days as well. Katrina hit August 29.
You have a great number of investors who have invested significant amounts of funds in your company, and yet while you continue to string us along, we are looking for hard numbers from you.
As a business profesional, I would think you would want to provide good, solid, accurate information to all of us.
I understand that you recieved your formal college education in Australia, and perhaps the good people of Australia are used to delays, however this is the United States of America, and you are operating your business in this country, and should be willing to provide any information regarding your companies operations and finances to your stockholders, regardless of SEC requirements for OTC companies.
As a stockholder, I am formally requesting from you at this time to be forthcoming with your FEMA contract number, and the current verifiable status of any and all FEMA contracts currently being negotiated by your company, and any division therein.
With All Due Respect,
xxxx xxxxx
Posted by Jmoove on :
nice email
Posted by databig on :
your right big green they have been playing games and stringing us along,, a 10 mil contract is chicken feed, its bullsh*t they should be rolling in contracts,,( unless they never planned on getting any or don't want any ) seems to me all they want to do is print shares and sell them, thats the easy way to make money.
Posted by USFBRIAN on :
Its real easy to say.It chicken feed for a company with problems? You seem very greedy!
Posted by Fairly_New on :
what the hell you talking about USF ?? -- seeings that you live in Florida and if you have a stake here you should go and visit the corporate offices of CWFG -- if your not willing you should keep to yourself, AND who said the company had problems
Posted by databig on :
where would greedy come from, when other companys are receiving contracts, all we hear is they are bidding, or they started to bid or whatever its all bullsh*t,at this point i feel they have no intention of getting any contracts, i guess it dosent take no weatherman to tell you which way the wind is blowing, we are all investors that would not like to be played for fools, which seems we have been.
Posted by johnny14511 on :
when the say bidding WTF are they talking about?
Posted by Fairly_New on :
I left another message for Guthrie -- nicer this time -- lol
Johnny -- bidding is bidding -- means that they have no contracts secured untill their id is accepted for the amount they offered to do the job for
Posted by evokiosk on :
I want out!!! I'll sell you guys my shares for .0020. j/k =)
Posted by evokiosk on :
I have about as many postings as USF, I must be an expert too.
Posted by shomethamoney on :
USFBRIAN is your last name GUTHRIE? - Just curious
Posted by USFBRIAN on :
Uh noo! Nice try
Posted by evokiosk on :
reminds me of yaya ...
Posted by USFBRIAN on :
I am just contributing to my city!!
Posted by shomethamoney on :
Hey everyone,
Haven't been on for awhile trying to get some work done hahaha. I have been reading the posts in here though and let me tell you it has been entertaining to say the least. You guys and gals have been having me laugh like crazy. I hope everyone is doing well despite the situation at hand. Hey BIG GREEN. I had to go back a few posts and figure out that you changed from BIG RED. I hope all is going well for you and yours. I will talk to you all soon. BTW where is ya ya at? I have been missing his invaluable input LOL!!!
Posted by USFBRIAN on :
ok I am convinced none of you know what your talking about,if your not positive about this stock! save it!
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
USF - first of all the language you use shows just how uneducated you are for a 26 year old boy.
Secondly, and I know of where I speak, Mr. Guthrie may / may not be interested in getting contracts. As far as the "bidding" is concerned, go to the FEMA website, and on there you will find out exactly what the procedures are for securing a contract from FEMA for any project, be it related to Katrina, or whatever the disaster. There is a specific process involved with securing a government contract for any project.
I have been involved in these contract biddings many times in the past. There are definitive timelines for contract awards, depending on the various situations involved in a disaster.
As far as being patient, most of us are, we would, however like to see some VERIFIABLE news. I am curious about one thing though USF - in your comment you state "We are not "other" companies" - Exactly what does that imply here?
You, are the one who, just a short time ago, started a thread (which thankfully the Admins locked down) wherein you stated that these shares would soon reach $1.00 by the end of the year. I offered to sell you my 1.5MM shares at .40 each, and you could keep the difference when they hit $1.00...Now you say they will be at .35 by the New Year....just wondering, do you work for Guthrie, or one of his MM's.
Now, lastly, if I see anymore of the language you are so fond of using, I will report each and everyone of your posts to the Admin, and they will drop you off of here like a hot potato.
Have a LOVELY AFTERNOON!!
Posted by shomethamoney on :
Hey USFBRIAN - quick serious question. How much do you know about CWFG? I'm not trying to be smart I am just curious.
Posted by Lu01eg on :
I haven't been involved in FEMA contracts but I know government contracts seem to take forever. 30 day for offer, 30 days for bids, 30 days for award and 60 days to get paid. With the Liberals crying foul everytime a check is written, it wouldn't surprise me for things to go slower then normal. IMHO.
Posted by USFBRIAN on :
I know just as much as you.I do live in St.Pete though and I am going to make another trip down to the office!I will let you know how it goes!
Posted by shomethamoney on :
I am trying to be optimistic about this stock, but it has been hard to say the least. USF go to the website and look up the auditor's for CWFG. Look their number up on GOOGLE and call them. I did and they have never heard of Guthrie. Also I asked Guthrie on the last call about when we would have some kind of financial statement from the company. His exact words were sometime at the end of this week or first of next week. That was threee weeks ago. You need to make sure you know what you are talking about before you go vomiting up things you don't know about. Alot of us here have been in this one since you were in diapers so don't shoot your mouth off because we let off steam. Last time I checked we could do this in America.
Posted by USFBRIAN on :
The guy wrote that other companies are getting so many contracts,I just simply stated that we are not other companies-no offense please PUT YOUR ORDERS IN AT 15 DOLLARS A SHARE JUST TO BEAT THE MM'S IF YOU ARE IN THIS COMPANY!!!IF WE ALL DO THIS IT WILL HELP US!!!!GUARANTEED IT WONT HURT TO PUT IT IN AT 15 PS WOULD IT????!!!!!
Posted by JIF on :
I've always wondered why people stick around to bash a stock. Is it because they really love me and they truly want to save me from loosing money???? probably not.
These bashers are either insecure and need reasurance and attention about their own position on the stock, or they are just trying to drive it down so they can afford to by more.
Bash once, then sell, then bash again, but then leave. Please!
Posted by USFBRIAN on :
HOW LONG HAVE YOU REALLY BEEN IN THIS STOCK?HONESTLY?
Posted by Fairly_New on :
HAHAHAHA --- boy I needed to laugh today ---- by the way Green you are ON today man -- Posted by USFBRIAN on :
HOW LONG HAVE YOU REALLY BEEN IN THIS STOCK?HONESTLY?
Posted by shomethamoney on :
JIF - I meant no ill will. I own more of this stock than probably anyone in here and I have taken a pounding on my position. I just wish we could hear something positive. I will say I'm sorry a million times if this one blows up!!!
Posted by USFBRIAN on :
how many shares do you all have ?
Posted by Fairly_New on :
How many you got USF
Posted by shomethamoney on :
Well over 20 mil
Posted by USFBRIAN on :
It means nothing that the auditors never herad of the guy!The site has just been added recently!Maybe he was hoping they could audit for him and he had a change of plans like i said the company is recovering!The guy is away bidding.dont get mad gees just cuz you bought * .0003
Posted by USFBRIAN on :
only 10 mill!
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
ok - honestly, I HAD 9MM, I sold all of it for another opportunity, now I'm back in for 1.5MM and will be trying to get more in the next few days...Like a lot of us here, I really think this one will come back, but I think back to about .005 max....
Like Sho - I will also apologize to anyone who goes bust. I dont pump and dump, hell, I'm so new in this, I only learned what that means just a couple of weeks ago myself.
And yes, I was one of those who sold at 1 and 2...AND I've lost over $3k on this one as well...
WHAT!? How naive can you POSSIBLY be USF - the auditors would have to know who this guy is!! Are you that naive to think it doesn't matter?
HOLY COW!!!!
That's the funniest thing I have ever heard....
GOOD LORD - you really don't know a thing about how business works do you?
Posted by USFBRIAN on :
Dude your new to this and already lost 3k!enough said take my advice and keep what you have and you will be fine load up if you can!
Posted by Fairly_New on :
be sure to keep us informed of your visit USF
Posted by amos moses on :
Big Green 1 Thank you for your response to the kind of language USF is using. I've been away from the board and just got caught up and my wife reads along with me, I DO NO APPRECIATE THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE AT ALL!!!!. If that can be reported and removed I wish you would, I would if I knew how. This should be a business not a bar or Jr High locker room language.
I'm in CWFG with over 4m and am concerned with seeing 200+ Million shares sold every day. This has to have a dilution problem in it at some point.
Posted by matto on :
wow alot happening here today!well at least we are consistant in our .0001.hehehehehehe
Posted by JIF on :
I've got a cool 16.5million.
Giggi
Posted by JIF on :
Guys, here is a theory:
People bought at .0001 or .0002 and they have sell orders in at .0002.
Maybe, people try to buy at .0001, then the price moves to .0002. Then sell orders execute and selling outpaces buying - thus, the stock never gets over the .0002 hump.
Simply put - every time it get's to .0002 or .0003, sellers drive the pps back down.
We need to HOLD HOLD HOLD. It's the only way to give this stock a chance to recover.
My recommendation - everybody put in buy orders at .0001. The stock will bounce to .0002 imediately. BUT HOLD! and let the stock recover.
Also, everyone must promise to hold to at least .0004. It's the only way.
Posted by Fairly_New on :
holding here -- but for more than .0004
contracts come this WILL run
Posted by johnny14511 on :
quote:Originally posted by JIF: Guys, here is a theory:
People bought at .0001 or .0002 and they have sell orders in at .0002.
Maybe, people try to buy at .0001, then the price moves to .0002. Then sell orders execute and selling outpaces buying - thus, the stock never gets over the .0002 hump.
Simply put - every time it get's to .0002 or .0003, sellers drive the pps back down.
We need to HOLD HOLD HOLD. It's the only way to give this stock a chance to recover.
My recommendation - everybody put in buy orders at .0001. The stock will bounce to .0002 imediately. BUT HOLD! and let the stock recover.
Also, everyone must promise to hold to at least .0004. It's the only way.
with just us doing it might not help
theres alot of volume coming from all around the world
our little piece of volume wont make a diiference
Posted by Lucas Brachish on :
quote:Originally posted by shomethamoney: ...go to the website and look up the auditor's for CWFG. Look their number up on GOOGLE and call them. I did and they have never heard of Guthrie. ...
They've never heard of Guthrie or they've never heard of this company at all? Damn, calling the auditor's is a nice bit of research -- but if the result is that they're claiming they're not actually the auditors of the company... Mmmmm ... it makes me feel a bit ill.
It reminds me of a couple of guys I knew who worked as stockbrokers in Florida, and their companies would receive pacakges of CASH from NYC and other areas on a weekly basis, with the word being that the mob was connected to the money .... all of it tied to penny stock manipulation. I mean, this isn't just one of those scary penny stories you hear about on the Internet somewhere fourth-hand, these were first-hand experiences some close friends of mine ran into. Of course, the brokerages they worked for have all been shut down now and the Mafia has been crushed in NYC over the last decade...
But that kind of illegal curruption is still out there ... so you couple that with MM's and crooked CEOs and shell companies and pennies are more dangerous than they have any right to be...
Let's hope this auditor business is just a mix up of some sort and the contracts and financial PRs are coming.
I'm holding strong in CWFG, regardless. I bought pre-split at what now averages to a little over .0003, and I'm not budging until I turn a profit or lose it all. At this point, having lost over 65%, I figure there's no reason to settle for anything less than either a complete loss or a sell at .0004 or .0005.
I've lost out on so many opportunities having cash tied up in CWFG and ICMH, though, that I still don't think I have the iron gut needed to wait for this to go up 10,000%... but if this isn't a scam or a noble company on it's death bed, then making a profit here should just be a matter of time.
Keep the DD and opinions (good and bad) and realistic target prices comin', folks...
Posted by fishfarmer on :
$20 the hard way!!! It aint over til the shooter craps. Posted by dalton05 on :
this is showing .00 oh no worthless.
Posted by matto on :
bummer!!!!
Posted by STL_COP on :
GREAT!!!! See ya folks....going to jump off a bridge.
Posted by dalton05 on :
b/a is showing .0001 - .0002 and price is 00 - I don't know what's going on but i am starting to lose my shirt with all these penny stocks.
Posted by matto on :
which bridge? I will race you to the bottom,Just like this stock!!!
Posted by dalton05 on :
I am going to start my car in my garage with the windows up and listen to some good ole rock and role - Good Night.
Posted by STL_COP on :
If this stock is worthless...what does that say about us?
Posted by matto on :
don't rub salt on a open wound!
Posted by InvestorSP on :
anyone think it will go back up? Posted by STL_COP on :
I'm putting in a buy for 50 million shares at .00 Posted by so uh wheres ma money on :
Is this gonna go anywhere??
Posted by youngface on :
If you buy at 00 what do you pay for broker fees??
Posted by JIF on :
quote:Originally posted by Lucas Brachish:
quote:Originally posted by shomethamoney: ...go to the website and look up the auditor's for CWFG. Look their number up on GOOGLE and call them. I did and they have never heard of Guthrie. ...
They've never heard of Guthrie or they've never heard of this company at all? Damn, calling the auditor's is a nice bit of research -- but if the result is that they're claiming they're not actually the auditors of the company... Mmmmm ... it makes me feel a bit ill.
It reminds me of a couple of guys I knew who worked as stockbrokers in Florida, and their companies would receive pacakges of CASH from NYC and other areas on a weekly basis, with the word being that the mob was connected to the money .... all of it tied to penny stock manipulation. I mean, this isn't just one of those scary penny stories you hear about on the Internet somewhere fourth-hand, these were first-hand experiences some close friends of mine ran into. Of course, the brokerages they worked for have all been shut down now and the Mafia has been crushed in NYC over the last decade...
But that kind of illegal curruption is still out there ... so you couple that with MM's and crooked CEOs and shell companies and pennies are more dangerous than they have any right to be...
Let's hope this auditor business is just a mix up of some sort and the contracts and financial PRs are coming.
I'm holding strong in CWFG, regardless. I bought pre-split at what now averages to a little over .0003, and I'm not budging until I turn a profit or lose it all. At this point, having lost over 65%, I figure there's no reason to settle for anything less than either a complete loss or a sell at .0004 or .0005.
I've lost out on so many opportunities having cash tied up in CWFG and ICMH, though, that I still don't think I have the iron gut needed to wait for this to go up 10,000%... but if this isn't a scam or a noble company on it's death bed, then making a profit here should just be a matter of time.
Keep the DD and opinions (good and bad) and realistic target prices comin', folks...
Maybe - but I used to work for an auditing firm and I only new the clients that I worked on. If you called the receptionist, she won't have a clue. And if you ask on auditor, he may not know either - and he especially won't know who the CEO is.
Now, if you spoke with the Office Managing Partner of the Audit Firm, then maybe.
Posted by JIF on :
Can we buy at .0001 now? I'm going to try.
Posted by JIF on :
AHhaa! .0001 showing up again.
Posted by JIF on :
Funny how you mention your into this and ICMH.
Me too - I'm holding my breath for ICMH. My face is blue.
How many other people are in the boat with us now and holding ICMH.
I think both will turn the corner soon.
Posted by so uh wheres ma money on :
I too am holding on to this as well as ICMH.. I can smell the gas burning...
Posted by Superbee383 on :
I wonder if there's a way to get in touch with FEMA to see who's bidding for contracts in New Orleans and that area. Since Guthrie said that he's bidding on work, it would be nice to see if that's real.
Posted by JIF on :
Maybe FEMA has a central web site for companies who want to submit bids, updates, info, or gather more info about FEMA RFP's (requests for proposal).
Posted by Superbee383 on :
I just found it under fema.gov http://www.fema.gov/ but I have no idea where to go from there.
Posted by Rules on :
May I offer a bit of advice? A wise character once said........"To Infinity and BEYOND". I thought it was appropriate for this stock since this stock is very similar to Louisiana, both are under water and in need of assistance. Guthrie needs to stop bidding a dollar and instead, carry a cup around asking for money as his company and stock is in need of another CEO. I don't think there will be any contracts as we are being strung along for the ride. Just long enough for him to take our money and run.
Posted by matto on :
rules he has our money!his goal should be to raise the value and take thier money.and we sell ours and move on.
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by matto: rules he has our money!his goal should be to raise the value and take thier money.and we sell ours and move on.
That would be a great idea but I have a feeling that our CEO is actually some kid playing on the internet while mommy and daddy is at work. Next week's press release will most likely state.........."We are a real company.......really we are!" "My mommy looked into the mean things that the MM's were doing and she told them to stop or else." Then the last PR will really jack the stock up by saying........"Due to the overwhelming demand of this stock, we are announcing a reverse split to increase shareholder value".
Posted by matto on :
OUCH, DON'T SAY R/S THATS FRESH
Posted by dalton05 on :
I have had enough of R/S this week.I haven't had one in a while until TNGO and CYBT did me in this week.
Posted by JIF on :
quote:Originally posted by Rules: May I offer a bit of advice? A wise character once said........"To Infinity and BEYOND". I thought it was appropriate for this stock since this stock is very similar to Louisiana, both are under water and in need of assistance. Guthrie needs to stop bidding a dollar and instead, carry a cup around asking for money as his company and stock is in need of another CEO. I don't think there will be any contracts as we are being strung along for the ride. Just long enough for him to take our money and run.
Dude, did you just quote Buzz Lightyear?......fricken Buzz Lightyear? Oh come on! HAHAHAAA.
Posted by Rules on :
Hmmm did I cause only you would know lol
Posted by redneck woman on :
for what it's worth....mention of potential merge.... From: damian [mailto:tsolution*tampabay.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 1:02 PM To: 'Cathy Rapp' Subject: RE: CWFG
Dear Cathy,
I apologize for the delay in my response. In reply to your email in short we are currently bidding on contracts worth approximately 16 million dollars. We plan to extend our bidding as time goes on into different areas that may be more specific or more project orientated rather than mass production. We can’t guarantee anyone that we will win any amount of Contracts. All we can say is that we are bidding and working very hard with a number of firms to solidify our chances. We are finishing numerous bids in the next two weeks in which we hope to win or at least have a chance to negotiate with the Principals in the Contract.
With the destruction from the Hurricanes now spread over many states across the US we feel we are in a good position to merge and perform the possible Joint Ventures as planned.
We are working hard to get the PPS back up as we also believe that the price is too undervalued currently.
Best Regards
Damian Guthrie
-----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 4:51 PM
Dear Mr. Guthrie:
I've left you several voicemails regarding your company. I believe that your company is in the right place at the right time; however, as a stockholder I would appreciate at least one return reponse. Perhaps email will work better than a phone call as I know you are extremely busy trying to solidify bids, contracts and agreements for work to be done in the aftermath of Katrina & Rita.
If you could provide me with perhaps a short overview of the potential opportunities, revenue potential and an estimated timeframe of contract awards and/or completions, I would greatly appreciate it. As with any investor, we need information to help us make our decisions regarding further additional investments in your company. Sincerely,
Posted by Persia on :
Thanks for the update Woman!
Posted by Fairly_New on :
same ole same ---- maybe he will respond to Big Green e-mail too
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
Nope - just checked- no reply....by the way, he never returned my phone call either...
Posted by redneck woman on :
I tried calling him today - every 15 min, 10-15 times, I was determined. He probably got tired of seeing my caller ID and sent me an email. :-)
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Damn gotta love no value --- this is really gettin old
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
You know, some say patience is a virtue - well, I don't fell very virtuous right now...
Posted by so uh wheres ma money on :
Let's give it a bit more time. Let us not be the one chasing the train.. when this thing starts to move.
Posted by redneck woman on :
The majority of our initial Contract bid closing dates are in the first and second week in November. Regards, Damian Guthrie
Dear Mr. Guthrie,
Do you have any award dates that you can share from your Request for Bids. I have worked with gov't bids before and realize that dates are normally published.
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
I'm staying till the price goes up, or the cows come home.....
Guess I'm staying till the price goes up...All my cows got eaten...LOL
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Funny how he wont respond to your e-mail -- BIG -- maybe you should send it again
Posted by JIF on :
quote:Originally posted by Big Green 1: Nope - just checked- no reply....by the way, he never returned my phone call either...
No offense, but neither would I.
We keep asking about the contracts for Katrina rebuilding.
How soon we forget, these states have had two more hurricanes since then! In fact, it's still fricken raining in Florida.
I just spoke to a friend down there - she has no power right now. So, no wonder these guys are still bidding on damage contracts - the damage is still going on!
Hopefully the next two weeks will be very good weeks. The weather will clear up. Everyone will finally assess the damage, and these guys will team up with other companies and everybody (local corps.) will get some very good business.
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
He actuall replied, hot off my email!!
Here it is guys and gals:
My Initial:
Mr. Guthrie,
Good afternoon sir. My name is xxxx xxxx, from Ohio, and I own several million shares of stock in your company. Several weeks ago, you promised that we would hear news from your meeting with Market Makers regarding the selling of ghost shares in your company leading up to the Forward Split.
His Reply:
This problem is unresolved at the current time. I never promised anything other than that I was meeting with Market Makers. The meeting went ahead as planned and we have not gotten to the bottom of the problem yet. If we find the source we will no doubt inform the stockholders of the outcome or findings.
My initial:
Since then , we have not heard any results from that meeting. Also, we learned that some $10 million dollars of contract negotiations have been ongoing, and that "at this time" no Reserve Split is planned. Yes, No Reverse Split is planned and we are currently bidding on numerous Contracts.
My Initial:
I have been involved in FEMA contract bid submissions in the past, for several corporations, and have not known of any such lengthy delay in securing bids for those contracts. All contracts are awarded within 45 days for initial cleanup, and resotration of primary services. Reconstruction contracts are, for the most part awarded within 60 days as well. Katrina hit August 29.
His Reply:
As you are aware Katrina hit and was short followed by Rita. It took the Government 2 weeks to evacuate the people still trying to survive in New Orleans. Fema itself could not get established for days, and is still having difficulty in many areas. As you would be aware Fema has only issued 25% of its contracts to Open Bidding circumstances. The remaining Contracts have been awarded behind closed doors. We anticipate that this problem will become more transparent in the very short term as a lot of pressure has been placed on Fema and other Government agencies to allow for free open bidding on all Government Contracts that are being placed into the market now for bidding. As stated previously, the large majority of Contracts have been given to out of state, politically connected firms. This has been well documented in the media and in and around the Hurricane affected areas.
My Initial:
You have a great number of investors who have invested significant amounts of funds in your company, and yet while you continue to string us along, we are looking for hard numbers from you.
As a business profesional, I would think you would want to provide good, solid, accurate information to all of us.
I understand that you recieved your formal college education in Australia, and perhaps the good people of Australia are used to delays, however this is the United States of America, and you are operating your business in this country, and should be willing to provide any information regarding your companies operations and finances to your stockholders, regardless of SEC requirements for OTC companies.
His Reply:
I am aware of where I live and work. As you have stated previously regarding your knowledge of Fema and its contract process, you may not be aware of the time it takes to re engineer previously failed construction. We are bidding on contracts that have a lot of Engineering design, consultation and geotechnical investigation, and financial issues associated with the type of Contracts we are bidding on. For example it takes 1 month to receive core geotechnical information to even commence what is called a pavement design to re design a failed road. I don’t believe that anyone here wants to pay for a failed, bridge, road, and or infrastructure 3 times.
My Initial:
As a stockholder, I am formally requesting from you at this time to be forthcoming with your FEMA contract number, and the current verifiable status of any and all FEMA contracts currently being negotiated by your company, and any division therein.
His Reply:
I have previously displayed the CCR number and relevant documentation supplied via the Government sources. Currently here is a brief list of Contracts that we have requested Formal Contracts and are currently in the process of bidding on, Port of South Louisiana, Rehabilitation, Lake End Park Marina, Rehabilitation, West Bank Recreational Complex, LA, Repairs and Drainage and Ditch repairs phase 1 Shreveport, Street Overlay project Monroe, Detention Ponds Woodland Hills, Piling Repairs to Port of South LA. We can provide you with contracts we plan to bid on in the coming weeks if you like.
With All Due Respect,
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Whatever JIF
Posted by JIF on :
Ok. Just to show you how committed I am, I'm buying more today at .0001. Only a couple hundred - but here it is.
Posted by Fairly_New on :
hey BIG are some of those replies from Guthrie ???
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
Everything I stated as his reply are from Guthrie, I broke it down, because he replied to my email by inserting his answers within my original email in blue.
Posted by Fairly_New on :
well this is just awesome --- why he cant put this info out in a PR for the world to see is beyond me -- this is all I have wanted was some concret information ----- renewed strength here --- Posted by JIF on :
My too. My bid is in at .0001.
Posted by Fairly_New on :
why is this .00 ?? and no value --
Posted by Aquapurity on :
I'm getting out at .0000
Posted by Aquapurity on :
just kidding
Posted by Lu01eg on :
I think he needs to put out PRs with substance, when he has something to put out. I don't think putting out excuses whether they are on FEMA or CWFG is productive. Just my 2 cents
Posted by Fairly_New on :
I think its very pertinent LOU, just for the simple fact we have been trying to get this info from him for over 1 month now and FINALLY under stockholder pressure he gives up some info --- I think that a PR with this info would give all stockholders and ones who are looking to maybe get in a feeling that they are not being lied too, and the NEW buyers are what we want
Posted by The Nice Guy on :
What is this person talking about!!! "New Buyers"!!!
Posted by Fairly_New on :
do you seriously want me to believe that you dont know what a new buyer is ?????
any stock you ever 1ST purchased was a NEW BUY right ??? hence new buyers --- more shareholders --- new $$$$$$ ---- anything else ???
Posted by JIF on :
In other words, we need more buyers than seller. This will create more demand than supply and drive the price of each share up.
Simple economics dude.
Posted by Fairly_New on :
thanks JIF -- lost myself there for a moment -- LOL
Posted by OO7 on :
Target price 0.0000
Posted by OO7 on :
some day some way this stock will raise from the ashes to .001, the Guthrie HAS SPOKEN, THANKS for the info BigGREEN 1
Posted by johnny14511 on :
we need the o/s to be 1/4 of what it is now
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
007
Yes, like the Greek Phoenix, this will rise....
FYI - I have a sell GTC in at .02
However, my children now know all the access info on the Ameritrade account, and I've instructed them to tell their spouses, when they get married how to find this info as well.
REALLY, not being pessimistic, but I'm 48 yrs old......
HAVE A GREAT EVENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by johnny14511 on :
quote:Originally posted by Big Green 1: 007
Yes, like the Greek Phoenix, this will rise....
FYI - I have a sell GTC in at .02
However, my children now know all the access info on the Ameritrade account, and I've instructed them to tell their spouses, when they get married how to find this info as well.
REALLY, not being pessimistic, but I'm 48 yrs old......
HAVE A GREAT EVENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh so youre holding for years huh?
Posted by Otttoman on :
I for one am going to get out of this dog as soon as I can at least get close to my buy in pps, but at this point in need it to go up almost 5x. This company's turning into a joke. No revenue, no contracts, no PRs, just a lot of talk and BS. IMO this company won't be in existence this time next year the way they are going. I'm out first chance and done with BS penny financial companies.
Posted by fishfarmer on :
Buy when the blood runs in the streets you greedy boys and girls. You want a good stock at penny prices look into EPYH. Posted by Big Green 1 on :
Any thoughts on why NO volume today?!?!?!
Posted by evokiosk on :
no idea,... i'm really starting to get frustrated with the lack of PR but responses to e-mails
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by Big Green 1: Any thoughts on why NO volume today?!?!?!
I know, Guthrie decided to take the day off from selling.
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
did you get that in an email from him? hehehehe
Posted by fishfarmer on :
quote:Originally posted by Big Green 1: Any thoughts on why NO volume today?!?!?!
Calm before the storm? Dumping is over? Casino is closed?
Posted by evokiosk on :
kinda scary, let's hope that it is the calm before the storm...the good storm
Posted by Pretorian on :
This is really really weird......not a single selling!!!!!!
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
I wonder if there is suspended trading due to a naked short investigation?
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by Big Green 1: did you get that in an email from him? hehehehe
Nah, I never sent him an email cause he would never respond to my over use of profanity Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by Slippery Wing: I wonder if there is suspended trading due to a naked short investigation?
Sounds good.......tell everyone that is what is happening and boom, shorters will cover, buyers will buy, and we all will be rich as the MM's could not keep it down.
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
I'd like to think so.
Never gone half a trading day without a single share selling!
Anyone try to place an order this morning?
Posted by Rules on :
Ask Guthrie what is going on. I would love to see a naked shorting investigation as it would definitely jack this stock thru the roof.
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Email sent
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
let us know what he says.... Anyone remember a day in the past when no trades this late in the day on this one?
This is WIERD
Posted by so uh wheres ma money on :
It's trading.. and on an u/t
Posted by johnny14511 on :
SOME ONE TRY TOM BUY LIKE 100 SHARES OR SOMETHING
LETS SEE WHATS GOING ON MAYBE SUSPENDED TRADING OR MAYBE JUST NO ONE FEELS LIKE TRADING TODAY
Posted by Fairly_New on :
3,500,000
Posted by so uh wheres ma money on :
did you make that purchase fairly_new??
Posted by fishfarmer on :
Who fired that shot???????!!!!!!!!!! Posted by johnny14511 on :
3500000 SHARES BOUGHT
THEY SHOULD MOMO THIS
Posted by Fairly_New on :
no not from me - was it bought at 1 or 2
Posted by Fairly_New on :
damn I dont think ive seen this in awhile either -- 2 back to back buys --- LOL --- another 65,000 bought -- not much but its a buy
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Reassuring
Posted by InvestorSP on :
.0002 finally!
Posted by Fairly_New on :
can someone post the L2's
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
quote:Originally posted by Fairly_New: can someone post the L2's
Yeah, there aren't any.
Posted by kilerb on :
Hey guys, what's the deal with this one? I'm in but when is this reverse split happening. I see they have a R/S PR on 10/20/05. Anyone know how or when this is happening?
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Hmmmm, better read it again... a little closer this time
Posted by Fairly_New on :
well Kiler B -- if you read the PR -- it says NO reverse split
And SLIP -- how can there be no L2's
Posted by kilerb on :
oops... Thanks... annnnnnnnd.... DUHHHH
Any expectations on a move? When?
Thanks guys...
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
There's no one on the ask OR the bid.
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
This one is still very strange. Several weeks of MM's manipulating the crap out of the stock, and then all of a sudden, nothing.
I have to assume the shares that went through a while ago are private investors.
No institutional trading, and the MM's aren't touching it anymore.
Have to call the bloodhound gang...
Posted by johnny14511 on :
I WILL BE SENDING GURTHIE AN UNPLEASANT EMAIL AND VOICE MESSAGE
I WILL TRY AND CALL HIM SAYING IM WITH SEC
Posted by shomethamoney on :
Johnny - I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Guthrie is probably someone in this room so you have already told him you're with the SEC hahahaha. That was a good thought though. Keep smiling!!!
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
quote:Originally posted by johnny14511: I WILL BE SENDING GURTHIE AN UNPLEASANT EMAIL AND VOICE MESSAGE
I WILL TRY AND CALL HIM SAYING IM WITH SEC
I wouldn't joke about that. It's a good way to get thrown in the clink.
Evidently, impersonating a federal employee is a federal offense.
I'm sure you're joking, but don't want any naive newbies to get any funny ideas.
Posted by Fairly_New on :
quote:Originally posted by Slippery Wing: There's no one on the ask OR the bid.
How is this possible --
something had to happen !
Posted by johnny14511 on :
quote:Originally posted by shomethamoney: Johnny - I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Guthrie is probably someone in this room so you have already told him you're with the SEC hahahaha. That was a good thought though. Keep smiling!!!
you really think theres somebody connected to gurthie in this room who might it be
im starting to think "GURTHIE" isnt even his name
Posted by fishfarmer on :
I'm going waaaaayyyy out on a limb here but maybe the selloff is over.
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Well, what would scare the MM's off from this one? They've handled a BILLION or so shares over the last few weeks, and now, nothing.
I'd like to think the selloff is over too!
Now let's get to buyin'!
Posted by Fairly_New on :
agreed
Posted by Fairly_New on :
MY GOD ANOTHER BUY --- LOL only 50,000 shares
Posted by Rules on :
I have seen this before. What basically happened was an imbalance in trading and now the MM's are trying to straighten it out. Tends to happen when naked short selling occurs and they need to go back and cover it up the right way.
Posted by Fairly_New on :
soooo... means the dumping should be done and buys now should increase PPS right ??
Posted by fishfarmer on :
Thats what I'm talking about!!!!! Posted by Rules on :
Not really, it just means they need to get everything back in balance as the MM's somehow bought shares at .0000 and now are trying to sell it at .0002 for a double profit. Then they will go back to short selling so that they can profit in both directions.
Posted by fishfarmer on :
I can see your glass is half empty Rules. Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by fishfarmer: I can see your glass is half empty Rules.
Brother, I know you want to have hope and like you I want my glass overflowing. I am just trying to keep to the facts so that more here don't get their hopes up only to see it dashed. I have come to the realization that my glass has a serious leak at the bottom.
Posted by fishfarmer on :
This stock has had more air than Katrina. LMAO rollem you greedy people. Posted by kilerb on :
Why is the bid at .0000 all day?
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by kilerb: Why is the bid at .0000 all day?
This is because the stock isn't really trading. The MM's are still sorting the mess out.
Posted by kilerb on :
U think this has a chance of moving up? I noticed the other members of the board were not liking your comments.
Posted by Polarbear17 on :
Once contracts are released this will go up , the big ? is how much . i predict a max of .0005 but i'd like to see more .
Posted by Fairly_New on :
the only way this wont go past .0005 is if people sell at .0003 and 4 -- i dont see why after waiting this long why people wouldnt want to ride it awhile
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by kilerb: U think this has a chance of moving up? I noticed the other members of the board were not liking your comments.
Without a doubt we will move up. It will take some positive news and some really good PR's to push this baby up. My comments earlier pertain to why the stock just isn't immediately trading today. It is not a long term outlook only the next day or two.
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by Fairly_New: the only way this wont go past .0005 is if people sell at .0003 and 4 -- i dont see why after waiting this long why people wouldnt want to ride it awhile
I think we will see higher than this if and it's a big IF........if the contracts come through. Revenue from FEMA contracts are the key. If they don't fly then we still need revenue numbers from the company showing that we have a positive outlook. Merger would be fantastic and even better, CWFG being acquired would be huge!
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Anyone feel like buying this morning? Starting off slow, again. Could be good though!
Posted by dalton05 on :
Atleast no one is selling.We need a good PR for this thin to move just a little.Volume is 0
Posted by Danny K on :
^^ You cant sell.. no orders go through.
Posted by so uh wheres ma money on :
What price are you trying to sell at?
Posted by Danny K on :
.0002 all this week, droped to .0001 for kicks a giggles, no luck. I am sititn back on .0002 now. anyone want 7.35M shares for .0002? Posted by Fairly_New on :
Danny, dude dont sell those shares -- youve waiting this long, wait a little longer
Posted by Jmoove on :
couple small nibbles at 2
Posted by so uh wheres ma money on :
Hmm.. nothing happening over here.. huh..
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
nope. nada.
Posted by matto on :
hey, no sells all buys wow sellers are gone cool only one way to go from here!!!!
Posted by andrew on :
arrrghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Posted by Fairly_New on :
And the dumping commences
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
yup
and here I thought we were through with that...
Posted by Mack on :
NO they moved the bid to .0001 and more was bought
Posted by Mack on :
moved the ask to .0001 i meant....
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Ah! I didn't see that, thanks Mack.
My L2's have been down on this stock. Not seeing anything...
Posted by Mack on :
moved the ask to .0001 i meant....
Posted by Rules on :
What a shock! I'm starting to hate this company.
Posted by Jmoove on :
some mirror trades going through towards the bell
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
.02 or BUST - news has got to be coming smoetime in November, or those contracts are bogus that Guthrie has been touting...IMO
Posted by Danny K on :
contracts could take many many months. we just dont know. I am hoping they seperated the cleanup aspect from the reconstruction aspect. That way we could get cleanup contracts rolling very soon and construction contracts next year somtime. This is just gonna take time to re-design structures, I was dumb to think we would get contracts within a couple months, my hopes pushed aside my knowledge. ohh well. i think this will run again. just who knows when.
Posted by Lu01eg on :
Not sure what makes me more concerned, no volume yet or no post in here. Is anyone here?
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
still waiting on news
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
Come on Guthrie - give us NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by so uh wheres ma money on :
ditto... just waiting for news to cash out..
Posted by Danny K on :
ditto to the third power.... Posted by PhoenixStockMaster on :
Has anyone heard from Guthrie? I have called and let a message and sent an email - however, no response.
Posted by Danny K on :
he never responseds, its like 5 people need to call and email all at once, then he will return one persons call...lol.... i hope he is busy gettin our contracts designed, bidded, and signed Posted by Big Green 1 on :
Well, here we are, an hour and a half into the day...Come on Guthrei, at least sell some of yours....NO ACTION AT ALL
Posted by Danny K on :
NO Sells will go through, period.. wonder why?
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
[ October 31, 2005, 11:58: Message edited by: Big Green 1 ]
Posted by Danny K on :
EDIT delete
[ October 31, 2005, 12:01: Message edited by: Danny K ]
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
Well, well, well, looks like someone sold 8.5MM- at least there is some kind of action....
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
how do you know it was a sale?
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
I haven't heard from anyone in weeks that could fill a buy at 1 - dont kbnow for fact, assumption on my part, and b4 you ask, yeas I know what happens when you assume....LOL
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
anyone started at the beginning of thread and voted lately?
wondering how we all feel now?
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
"sorry, you have already voted"
Been so long, can't remember HOW I voted.
Still patient, though...
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
me either...I'm thinkin $1.00 pps .....
Of course the doctors have had me on some really bizarre stuff lately, what with my dillusion of granduer and all...LOL
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
maybe you need to send some of that "bizzare stuff" to the MM's. Get them to drive the price to a buck, and we'll all jump out at 80 cents.
Let them hold the bag!
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
The nice men in white coats told me no....I dont think thats fair at all....
Posted by Danny K on :
BG1, i think there have been a good bit of buys last week at 1 i remember watching the L2s: HDSN would drop the ask to 1 a couple times a day, run 10Mil or so through and then bump ask to 2 again.
Posted by David2376 on :
I live literally live right around the corner from the headquarters, located at 111 2nd Ave NE Suite 910, St Petersburg, FL 33701 (AKA: Plaza Tower). I was shopping at the adjacent Baywalk today and decided to pay Common Wealth a visit. Upon entering the lobby I looked on the directory and found no Common Wealth American Financial or no Damien Guthrie listed not to mention no suite 910. I hopped in the elevator and headed to the 9th floor. I walked around for a few mintues and could not find a suite 910; all of the suite numbers are posted next to the doors along with a company name. I did eventually find 910 (well I found 911, so I assumed 910 was the next suite over) but the company name and the suite number had been removed from the door. The blinds were drawn and the lights off, I was able to peer through the edge of one of the windows. There was a desk and chair in a small one-man office. I then departed and asked the security guard on the main level if he had ever heard of Common Wealth American Financial and was told no. Just got back home and called the main number for Plaza Tower and asked the receptionist if there was a Common Wealth there, she replied yes but was unable to connect me to them as they do not have a local phone number. She did give me a number for them with a 786 area code which is located on the other side of the state (I believe in the Miami area); our area code here in St Petersburg is 727. Of coarse I called the 786 number and no one answered only voice mail. They do have a local fax number but no local voice number is available.
This all seems very strange to me....no door sign, no directory listing in the office complex, no local number???? Thankfully I am not in this company for much money. Just a word of caution....SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT!
David
Posted by so uh wheres ma money on :
Can anyone confirm??
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Well, to play devils advocate, why would a one man show need an office?
He has no tangible assets. All he'd have is files, and a computer with a link to his bank accounts.
Doesn't make it "right", but it doesn't surprise me, either.
-Slip
Posted by shomethamoney on :
I am giving this until near Thanksgiving and then I will make my decision. Long and short of it, is that if this bird doesn't fly soon - Stick a fork in it cause it's done!!!
Posted by David2376 on :
Pulled a reverse search for the number given to me by the receptionist. It appears to be a cell phone based in Miami, FL. It is also the contact number listed on http://www.cwmf.net
What kind of a corporation uses a cell phone as their primary number?
We're sorry. We did not find a listing for the phone number you entered. The phone number "(786) 246-1077" is a Miami, FL based phone number and the registered carrier is Omnipoint Communications Mb Operations, Llc. However, due to number portability, some numbers have been transferred to a new service provider other than the registered carrier.
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
quote:Originally posted by David2376: What kind of a corporation uses a cell phone as their primary number?
A one man show.
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
I don't know that I'd get too bent up on the "cell phone as primary number" issue. For a one man show who has to travel a lot, and is rarely "in the office", it wouldn't make much sense to even have a land-line.
He probably DOES have the office in Saint Pete's, but probably doesn't have much more than a desk and fax machine.
Probably doesn't have much walk-in traffic, so there's really no need to publicize the office in the form of a name plate on the door.
I guess in my opinion, this really isn't to sub-par for a sub-penny company in my opinion.
-Slip
Posted by Doctoall on :
quote:Originally posted by Slippery Wing:
quote:Originally posted by David2376: What kind of a corporation uses a cell phone as their primary number?
A one man show.
One that prints shares to pay the cell bill Posted by kptmoe on :
this is the funniest thing i think iv'e ever heard
Posted by johnny14511 on :
its problaby a scam
Posted by Andreas on :
I have to agree, but it would probably be smarter to publish a toll-free 800 number and have that diverted to a cell phone. That's what I do, too ))
quote:Originally posted by Slippery Wing: I don't know that I'd get too bent up on the "cell phone as primary number" issue. For a one man show who has to travel a lot, and is rarely "in the office", it wouldn't make much sense to even have a land-line.
He probably DOES have the office in Saint Pete's, but probably doesn't have much more than a desk and fax machine.
Probably doesn't have much walk-in traffic, so there's really no need to publicize the office in the form of a name plate on the door.
I guess in my opinion, this really isn't to sub-par for a sub-penny company in my opinion.
-Slip
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
Johnny -
PROBABLY?!?!?
No way, not Guthrie
If this is true, boys, we all been scammed by a major player...This guy deserves an Oscar for sure....
Posted by Lucas Brachish on :
bler
Posted by Nile on :
You ok Luca? Sounds like you got some gas!
Posted by andrew on :
Guys...Guys... Easy now. Lets not bash the stock. If you are not happy get out. Things will soon get better and DONT believe Dave!!
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
quote:Originally posted by andrew: ...DONT believe Dave!!
Why not?
Posted by andrew on :
Dear Mr. Guthrie,
It is of concern that myself and numerous stock holders are not being kept abreast of contract potentials. You have said in the past that cwfg had x amount of contracts that you were bidding on. Please keep us informed of the status of these potential contracts. Many of us believe in OUR company and would like a response concerning this matter.
I sent this to Guthrie 5 minutes ago. WE NEED A RESPONSE.....pray.
Posted by Otttoman on :
This comapny doesn't even have any SEC filings except for a "REGDEX:Registration of sale of securities" from May of this year. Does anyone else find this odd.
Also, when you call the phone number listed, you get a poorly recored voice message from Guthrie himself. How the the hell are the Feds supposed to contact this loser about the millions of dollars in contracts he's been supposedly waiting to hear about. More likely they'll say, "sorry can't contact CWFG, let's move on to the next company and see if we can reach a live person".
What kind of company is this. I've seen snowball stands which were easier to reach with questions and which put out more information about their business.
If I can get 1/2 my money back (0.0003) I'm gone out of this dog, and I may not even wait that long. These so called financial companies have always kicked my butt, and I've finally learned my lesson with this one to stay the hell away from them.
Posted by Jmoove on :
they are not a reporting company, a pinksheet, they dont need to file anything
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
Hey Andrew -
the question was posed to you, why should we NOT believe Dave?
Inquiring minds want to know...
Posted by OO7 on :
the mysterious dave??? whats the difference? One man show, no wonder he doesnt answer his phone for all the calls he gets from share holders, hes probably to busy trying to get the contracts signed. GEEZ does anybody got anything better to do then to debate abot this? Im in for 4 millions shares , and Yes I believe sooner or later it will go near .001 and I will at least triple what I put into it, sounds like a plan to me,,,,sit back and relax!!!!!!!!
Posted by shomethamoney on :
The thing that I have been thinking about is that I have to feel that he does have contracts out there. The reason being is this: If supposedly a person can make up false PR then why would Guthrie stop at just stating that he has contracts. I would buy all of the .0001 shares and then put out PR's that I had a 100 mil. contract. Everyone would buy and then he could sell at $1.00. Do you get what I am saying. If he can publish all of the fake announcements why would he just state minimal stuff. Why wouldn't he blow it out and announce big lies. I don't think he is lying. I will be honest I did, but like I said if a lie was the case, why stop at a small lie when he could make a bigger one and really score. Put a PR out about a ten mil contract and then bail out.
Posted by shomethamoney on :
PS - I meant to say bids on contracts - so read the post again and insert those words where I have contracts written :-)
Posted by David2376 on :
quote:Originally posted by Big Green 1: Hey Andrew -
the question was posed to you, why should we NOT believe Dave?
Inquiring minds want to know...
I would like to know too, andrew. I bring my personal DD to this board. Honestly I could care less if anyone believes me or not. I call things as I see them; I felt that something was suspicious and reported on it to my fellow investors. I was 100% honest in my posting, I never said the company was a scam just that something was not right. Maybe this company is a scam and maybe it isn't but I am not sticking around to find out. I do not come to these boards to argue, if anyone would like to speak with me further regarding this, please contact me through PM.
David
Posted by andrew on :
Okay...Okay Dave...I appollogize for saying, "DONT believe Dave." Look guys..I'm just aggrivated like everyone else about the stagnite PPS. We all have money vested in this company and I just hate to think that its all a scam. Once again Sorry Dave. NOW Guthrie...Where the hell are the Contracts!!!!
Posted by David2376 on :
Just a little more of my 100% honest DD. As from the CCR website, Common Wealth American Financials registration has not been completed. I don't know much about how FEMA registration works, but from what I read you must first apply for a DUNS number. CWFG has done that and released the DUNS CCR number in a press release (604257027). I went to http://www.ccr.gov and searched for a DUNS number of 604257027. The listing comes up as incomplete. Not sure what the significance of this is, anyone more familiar with FEMA and CCR?
--------- Current Registration Status: Incomplete Registration last referenced Tuesday, November 01, 2005. Registrant has initiated entry of a new CCR profile, which is missing one or more mandatory data elements. Registrant should review their CCR profile (using Confirmation # update) and supply missing information.
Posted by Lucas Brachish on :
quote:Originally posted by shomethamoney: ...The reason being is this: If supposedly a person can make up false PR then why would Guthrie stop at just stating that he has contracts. .... why stop at a small lie when he could make a bigger one and really score. Put a PR out about a ten mil contract and then bail out.
If someone gets caught releasing a PR full of lies, they can be prosecuted. Distributing false information that affects financial matters is criminal... Exaggerating the facts and avoiding the negative aspects of the truth is standard in PR, of course, but one does have to be careful not to issue outright lies that would bring about a lawsuit. If you don't have any good PR to report, 'tis better to spread postive rumours through less traceable channels in order to get the PPS up. (Which is partly why you have people sending out all this stock-realted spam email to millions of people using fake email accounts -- in the hope of getting buzz going.)
I don't think the PR or the stock are being handled as well as they could be (by a long shot)... But I'm still holding this stock and I hope for the best.
However, I truly appreciate the DD of David and everyone else. It's too bad we didn't have all this info a couple of months ago, though. If this is a scam, it's best to know the truth and not rationalize that everything is going to be okay.
But I hope this CEO is just struggling with getting the company some work, and eventually he'll get the work, and release some great PR, and stop diluting, and we'll all get to cash out for some $$$. At this point, I think buying more shares is risky, but there's no harm in holding as long as they don't split the stock again.
Posted by David2376 on :
I have an idea....Mr Guthrie is pretty much impossible to reach. I have yet to here of him returning anyone's calls. Let's get a list of questions together and I will personally goto the office every few days until I catch. I really do only live about 2 minutes from his office. Surly I would be able to get him at some point, now weather he would give me the time of day is another question. If everyone thinks this is a good idea post your questions and I will complile a list.
David
Posted by shomethamoney on :
David,
Ask him why it is showing his DUNS number as incomplete, and if so why is it incomplete and what solid information does he have on it.
Posted by shomethamoney on :
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Posted by Pretorian on :
Guys,
How about this: Why not we send an email to Guthrie telling him that unless he straights his acts up and explain why the poor SEC filings, why the missing office in St-petersburg, why the outrageous delay to get simple and normal financial facts of this PUBLIC company, why the incorrect contracting number..etc...a formal complaint will be dropped at the SEC/OTCBB/FEMA/CCR for false and misleading representation.
I understand that some of us are ok to wait and see, but now the issue is just not only about no PR's, it's about a potential fraud. And as shareholders with millions of shares I think we deserved to be answered our emails, phonecalls, and deserve feedback. That's my opinion of course, but one thing is sure and mark my words, if we don't get any info or SERIOUS feedback from him today, I will send him an email with the exact content I've just explained: ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!
Posted by shomethamoney on :
Just got through to Guthrie - you may want to call him - you may catch him this morning. I asked him specifically about the CCR registration being incomplete. He said that he had no idea that it was incomplete and that they had no trouble bidding on jobs. I told him that he would have no problem bidding on jobs because when they found out his number was not complete they would disgard it. I asked him what he was going to do about it and he said that he would get on it this morning. I don't know if he is telling the truth or not, I just wanted to tell you what I got from him.
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Thats all you asked him ???
Posted by dalton05 on :
News for 'CWMF' - (Commonwealth American Financial Group Announces Progress on Contracts and Expansion to South Florida)
ST. PETERSBURG, Fla., Nov 02, 2005 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc. (Pink Sheets: CWFG) announced today that through its wholly owned subsidiary Hawkesbury River Funding of Texas has submitted two bids for contract documents that were received in October. The company is submitting a further four bids by the second week of November for contracts in Louisiana related to civil engineering projects. Commonwealth American also announces that it is expanding its bidding of engineering contracts to the South Florida region that was also severely damaged by the recent Hurricane that made land fall in Florida last weekend.
These first initial contracts that Hawkesbury River Funding of Texas are bidding on are civil engineering based contracts that have involved specialized geotechnical, survey, material and engineering analysis prior to contracts being created. It has taken several weeks to receive documentation for these contracts and we will continue to become involved in such contracts over the coming months. Hawkesbury River will handle all bidding at its Dallas, Texas office for the Louisiana contracts. Hawkesbury River is requesting local firms to contact its Dallas office and provide relevant contract experience and corporate resumes that will be used in the bidding process for this construction work.
Mr. Guthrie, President, said: "The corporate strategy currently is to bid continually on these types of Contracts for the next few months and invest our time in securing relationships with local contractors in Louisiana and Florida. We have a lot of competition currently and anticipate that the level of competition will reduce over the next few weeks."
The mission of Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc. is to invest in land development projects either as developer, joint venture partner, or lender and create mezzanine-financing opportunities. The company will also grow by acquiring subsidiaries in related fields such as construction, real estate brokerage-appraisal-management, in Florida, Texas and Louisiana.
The Company has established a website www.cwmf.net and trades under the symbol (Pink Sheets:CWFG).
FORWARD LOOKING STATEMENTS: This information includes forward-looking statements made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 that involve risks and uncertainties including, but not limited to, the impact of competitive products, the ability to meet customer demand, the ability to manage growth, acquisitions of technology, equipment, or human resources, the effect of economic and business conditions, and the ability to attract and retain skilled personnel as related to the industry. The Company is not obligated to revise or update any forward-looking statements in order to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this issue.
SOURCE: Commonwealth American Financial Group
CONTACT: Commonwealth American Financial Group., St. PetersburgDamian Guthrie, 786-246-1077Fax: 727-895-8735
Posted by Pretorian on :
quote:Originally posted by shomethamoney: Just got through to Guthrie - you may want to call him - you may catch him this morning. I asked him specifically about the CCR registration being incomplete. He said that he had no idea that it was incomplete and that they had no trouble bidding on jobs. I told him that he would have no problem bidding on jobs because when they found out his number was not complete they would disgard it. I asked him what he was going to do about it and he said that he would get on it this morning. I don't know if he is telling the truth or not, I just wanted to tell you what I got from him.
Thanks for the info and for getting it....but it's too little too late from Guthrie. Like I said, if nothing tangible is posted today, ALL the necessary authorities shall be contacted.
Posted by bmarley5780 on :
Posted by Pretorian on :
quote:Originally posted by dalton05: News for 'CWMF' - (Commonwealth American Financial Group Announces Progress on Contracts and Expansion to South Florida)
ST. PETERSBURG, Fla., Nov 02, 2005 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc. (Pink Sheets: CWFG) announced today that through its wholly owned subsidiary Hawkesbury River Funding of Texas has submitted two bids for contract documents that were received in October. The company is submitting a further four bids by the second week of November for contracts in Louisiana related to civil engineering projects. Commonwealth American also announces that it is expanding its bidding of engineering contracts to the South Florida region that was also severely damaged by the recent Hurricane that made land fall in Florida last weekend.
These first initial contracts that Hawkesbury River Funding of Texas are bidding on are civil engineering based contracts that have involved specialized geotechnical, survey, material and engineering analysis prior to contracts being created. It has taken several weeks to receive documentation for these contracts and we will continue to become involved in such contracts over the coming months. Hawkesbury River will handle all bidding at its Dallas, Texas office for the Louisiana contracts. Hawkesbury River is requesting local firms to contact its Dallas office and provide relevant contract experience and corporate resumes that will be used in the bidding process for this construction work.
Mr. Guthrie, President, said: "The corporate strategy currently is to bid continually on these types of Contracts for the next few months and invest our time in securing relationships with local contractors in Louisiana and Florida. We have a lot of competition currently and anticipate that the level of competition will reduce over the next few weeks."
The mission of Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc. is to invest in land development projects either as developer, joint venture partner, or lender and create mezzanine-financing opportunities. The company will also grow by acquiring subsidiaries in related fields such as construction, real estate brokerage-appraisal-management, in Florida, Texas and Louisiana.
The Company has established a website www.cwmf.net and trades under the symbol (Pink Sheets:CWFG).
FORWARD LOOKING STATEMENTS: This information includes forward-looking statements made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 that involve risks and uncertainties including, but not limited to, the impact of competitive products, the ability to meet customer demand, the ability to manage growth, acquisitions of technology, equipment, or human resources, the effect of economic and business conditions, and the ability to attract and retain skilled personnel as related to the industry. The Company is not obligated to revise or update any forward-looking statements in order to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this issue.
SOURCE: Commonwealth American Financial Group
CONTACT: Commonwealth American Financial Group., St. PetersburgDamian Guthrie, 786-246-1077Fax: 727-895-8735
This Guthrie guy, does he thinks we're idiots?????? He's been posting the same bs for the past 2 months.......contracts were supposed to get through in october, than in november and now to make the pill sweeter....in the next few months!!!!! Does he think he's running ebay with all these bidings????? Again, too little to late......he has plenty of time before the closing today to post something substantial....if not....well he'll know for sure.
Posted by shomethamoney on :
From: XXXXXXX Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 7:07 AM To: 'otcbbfeedback*nasdaq.com' Subject: Filing a complaint
From: XXXXXX
To whom it may concern,
For a few months now we have been receiving information from Damian Guthrie on your website that he has operations moving his company(CWFG) forward. After doing our own investigations/contacting/visiting of his office and those that supposedly know him, we are finding it to be false and misleading. Also we contacted CCR who handles the DUNS numbers for which Fema contractors have to get a listing number to contract to do work for them. We found out that Mr. Guthrie's application is incomplete. He claimed in a article on October 11th on your site that he had a number and that they could bid work out. He cannot bid work because his application is incomplete.
There are many investors who strongly believe like myself that Mr. Guthrie is misleading the investing community about his company and the truth about what he is doing. I would like to know how to file a complaint with those that he would answer to. I appreciate your time and what you can do to help us get deeper into this matter.
Kind Regards,
XXXXXXXXXX
Posted by Pretorian on :
quote:Originally posted by shomethamoney: From: XXXXXXX Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 7:07 AM To: 'otcbbfeedback*nasdaq.com' Subject: Filing a complaint
From: XXXXXX
There are many investors who strongly believe like myself that Mr. Guthrie is misleading the investing community about his company and the truth about what he is doing. I would like to know how to file a complaint with those that he would answer to. I appreciate your time and what you can do to help us get deeper into this matter.
Kind Regards,
XXXXXXXXXX
Good Job!!!!! Once I'll send mine that will make 2 of us!!!!
Posted by shomethamoney on :
I called Guthrie and told him what I was doing. He was quite upset about it, but I told him that I was not trying to argue or be harsh. I feel mislead as an investor and if I can file a complaint I will and that he can answer to those in authority over him. He did not like that at all. The fire has been lit!!!!!
Posted by bmarley5780 on :
spark ...spark... spark...
Posted by Pretorian on :
quote:Originally posted by shomethamoney: The fire has been lit!!!!!
Good!! He had enough time to clear his acts, now he will see the burning bush! I'm a lawyer and I'll make it nice and sweet to ALL the authorities.
Posted by Danny K on :
Good news. So we finally submitted a bid. Myself and my co-workers know that bids take a few days on average, at most, to review and award. So MrG, If we do not get news by mid next week of a contract, we will assume you did not win.
Posted by Danny K on :
vol coming in better than normal, 47M
Posted by jack85 on :
a lot of volume but no movement
Posted by Fairly_New on :
LOL -- I can only imaguine whats going thru Guthries head --- :chuckle:
Posted by bmarley5780 on :
Show- IMO I think you did the best thing possible. Lets try to nip this at the neck before it gets any worse. LOL- i do think its funny how you told him straight up! LOL
Posted by shomethamoney on :
Everyone,
I hope that you all understand my reasons. I have invested money into this and have been supporting this company for a while now if you look back through the pages. I am not looking for a lottery ticket in this company but I do want to see some kind of future. I want the rubber to meet the road and that time has come. It's time for Guthrie to put his money where his mouth is and produce or let us know the truth and then buy back all of the shares (not happening). I hope everyone the best in their future trades. Have a great day!!!!
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Been here long time to SHO -- I'm behind you -- I have had severl early conversations with Guthrie -- And as much as I hate to say it he stalled me just the same
Posted by databig on :
i agree with you shome, i feel we have all been a victim of his printing machines. he only put out a PR today because of the pressure, i say hang the bast*rd, all his PRs work wonders and sh*t blunders, the PRs dont mean anything, just a play by play to his bank acct:; all misleading and lies.
Posted by David2376 on :
Called again this morning.....still no answer. Not sure if it's going to do anything but I contacted Bay News 9 here in Tampa Bay. They are really good with stories like this, hopefully they are able to track down Mr. Guthri and get some answers. We'll see....my fingers are crossed. I will also be sending a complaint to the SEC.
David
Posted by Pretorian on :
....worst yet....whatever he was bidding on worth supposedly 16M $ never materialised....which is why he's making us believe that more is to come in the next few months.....this guy is just a pure and petty scam and I am ashamed of having fallen into it.
Posted by shomethamoney on :
I did tell him that I have never seen anything that he has produced in this company or the other two companies that showed any profit made. I looked back through all of the PR's that I could find. He could not say anything because he knew I was right. I told him I saw the words "We are looking into" "We are negotiating", etc. He knew I had done my research. I was very business like, I was not mean but I was stern on the phone, and I told him that I was not playing games. I do respect everyone and your investment in here so please do not take any of my posts as bashing. I want to get down to "BRASS TAX" with Guthrie and I am not playing anymore!
Posted by shomethamoney on :
Pretorian - It happens in penny stocks so don't kick yourself. We all bought into this company. I can say that I have learned a lot more about how to research someone's background better and that I won't have to make a mistake in the future. We will get to the bottom of this and it will either take off or Guthrie will take off. I will personally plaster his name across these boards and others when I get more information from otcbb and the SEC. He will either change his ways or his name. This isn't a joke to me and I am not making any of my remarks up for fun. I mean serious business with this guy.
Posted by dalton05 on :
Shome - I agree with your statement.I just want to add my 2 cents because alot of people are upset with stocks like these in pennyland.I have been through many reverse split with micro stocks because i hold too long.Sometimes holding is better then losing although i do not put too much in on stock but holding long might pay out for this stock or with others.I have been holding CTCK for a while now and early monday morning this was at .0004.Now its at .002 so you never know
Posted by Pretorian on :
quote:Originally posted by shomethamoney: He will either change his ways or his name. This isn't a joke to me and I am not making any of my remarks up for fun. I mean serious business with this guy.
Thanks SHO- I too am dead serious about this....b/c it's one thing not to make money....that's the risk of the game...but to be fraudulent, that's intolerable!
Posted by Skyman on :
How do companies get away with this? Isn't there a law, or is it just one of those things that can't be proven, or too expensive to pursue?
Posted by Jmoove on :
hmm, im very conflicted about this one, the repeat prs just to sell more shares into the float is really bothering me, not that I could get out anyway
Posted by Pretorian on :
quote:Originally posted by Skyman: How do companies get away with this? Isn't there a law, or is it just one of those things that can't be proven, or too expensive to pursue?
....well to make a long story short Guthrie is doing this simply b/c he can! Now we have to ensure that we won't go screw around people with bs pr. However, I have to give him credit, he managed to make people trade litterally billions of shares over NO SINGLE FIGURES!!!!!!! not even 5 bucks of revenue, NOTHING!!!!....and it is still working, I see that over 91 millions shares have been trading! What a scam!
Posted by Lu01eg on :
I am repeating myself here but I sort of feel for this guy. He is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. He puts out a PR that says nothing and gets grilled or he doesn't put out a PR and gets grilled.
I agree something stinks but people can't have it both ways.
Posted by David2376 on :
I have also tried to find infomation on Hawkesbury River that is supposed to be handeling the bidding from their office. I can find no address or phone number for a Hawkesbury River Funding in Dallas, TX. I have searched and searched, all I can find is Hawkesbury River mentioned in the PRs....nothing else!
Posted by shomethamoney on :
The funny thing is that these companies he has "OWNED WHOLLY" supposedly name Guthrie as the President. He is the only guy in the company so who else is he going to name hahahaha. I cannot believe I bought into this - Before I get any stupid remarks - I am selling as I speak. I sold over 16 mil this morning!
Posted by InvestorSP on :
what price did you sell at if you dont mind me asking? .0002 or .0001?
Posted by shomethamoney on :
.0001
Posted by agrimac on :
So it appears the price is heading up as I bought in at 00010
Posted by shomethamoney on :
Invest - no one has been able to sell at .0002 for the last month to my knowledge. .0001 is the best that I have seen or received.
Posted by newbiewantstomakesomemoney on :
I've been trying to sell at .0002 for over a week with no luck.
Posted by pennys4themoney on :
Had a sell in for .0001 all day. I would rather get rid of this and find something better.
Posted by Homersbud on :
Today must be my lucky day because I was able to sell my 1,000,000 * $.0002! I only had the order in for like 2 weeks now but it finally got filled! WooHoo!
Time to invest that money into another stock that will do something!
Posted by Superbee383 on :
Homersbud, how the heck did you do that? I've had a sell in, all day, at .0001 and it hasn't hit!
Posted by Persia on :
I think he sold at 0.00002... Posted by Superbee383 on :
LOL... it would have to be! With all the sells in at .0001, I can't see a sale for .0002 going first!
Posted by Homersbud on :
To be honest, I have no idea. I had my sell order in for GTC. After the PR was released, I checked my account and my sell was excuted * $.0002! I doubled my money on this POS stock. Woohoo!
Sell 11/1/05 11:16:46 AM EST 9:31:10 AM EST 1,000,000 CWFG Stock (US)
CMNWLTH AMER FINL GRP NEW
0.00010 $0.0002 USD $195.00 GTC CT1943-36 Order Executed
Posted by Superbee383 on :
Looks like you sold that yesterday. Lucky dawg! Posted by Homersbud on :
Wow, that's weird! It didn't show up in my account until this morning. Never-the-less, I'm glad I'm out and didn't lose any money!
Good luck to the rest of you!!
Posted by David2376 on :
I just finished my long and very detailed complaint to the SEC. Actually there is more information than I posted here in regards to the registration with FEMA and CCR. I would rather not discuss it here but it has now been given to the SEC. I am pretty sure the information I provided will bring on an investigation from the SEC. Hopefully somthing will come about by the end of the week.
I am 100% honest in the DD I have provided to this board. Things do not add up in my opinion, if this company is legit then fine. I do still hold a small handful of shares. I truly believe that the SEC does in fact need to look into this corporation.
David
Posted by Guthrie on :
You should wait until December....maybe you'll see
Posted by Fairly_New on :
HEHEHEHE
Posted by databig on :
thats funny ( who was that masked man )
Posted by Superbee383 on :
ROFLMAO! I would have answered faster, but fell off my chair from laughter. I'm all set now.. velcro works wonders!
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Hey Guthrie, tell us a little more about the bids you have out.
What date are they going to announce who won the contracts?
Why do you only have two bids out in the Gulf Coast area? Not being critical, just want some feedback.
How is the competition for contracts in Florida?
Can you name some contractors who you are partnering with for these contracts?
Can you explain why there has been extremely high volume in your companies stock, with little to no movement in the price per share?
Where do we stand on the meeting with the MM's?
Are there contracts left to be bid on in the Gulf Coast right now, and do you expect to be a part of any "ongoing" bidding process? We understand that the rebuilding will take a long time.
-Slip
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by Guthrie: You should wait until December....maybe you'll see
This is hiliarious!
I like the part where it says wait until next month. Just like we were told to wait through October and then nothing. Then we were told to wait through November. I am hoping for a PR that states sometime in the distant future Common Wealth is looking into future contracts that will be caused by next year's hurricanes!
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Above post is worth a shot.
I figure that if this guy "Guthrie" is just some schmuck who is trying to win over the board, his response will be a bunch of lies. And quite honestly....
Otherwise, if Damian Guthrie is actually surfing these boards, I'd think that this is a great opportunity to set a few things straight...
-Slip
Posted by Rules on :
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Slippery Wing: Above post is worth a shot.
I figure that if this guy "Guthrie" is just some schmuck who is trying to win over the board, his response will be a bunch of lies. And quite honestly....
Otherwise, if Damian Guthrie is actually surfing these boards, I'd think that this is a great opportunity to set a few things straight...
-Slip [/QUOTE
Dude, it has to be a joke. I am still laughing my arse off.
Posted by bmarley5780 on :
LOL
VERY FUNNY - LMAO ----> still
but on the serious side
Hey Guthrie, tell us a little more about the bids you have out.
What date are they going to announce who won the contracts?
Why do you only have two bids out in the Gulf Coast area? Not being critical, just want some feedback.
How is the competition for contracts in Florida?
Can you name some contractors who you are partnering with for these contracts?
Can you explain why there has been extremely high volume in your companies stock, with little to no movement in the price per share?
Where do we stand on the meeting with the MM's?
Are there contracts left to be bid on in the Gulf Coast right now, and do you expect to be a part of any "ongoing" bidding process? We understand that the rebuilding will take a long time.
all the above = A+
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Yeah, I know.
But I'd just love it if this guy came back and said:
"We have 50 million in contracts, we're buying back shares, and declaring a 50% dividend...."
Posted by Lu01eg on :
I think if he is actually Guthrie, he should be able to answer this question quite quickly.
Is Bob your aunt?
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
"...but you'll have to wait till December, 2010."
Posted by shomethamoney on :
Maybe if we are lucky he has been taking all of our money and buying lottery tickets to try and win the big one. By doing that he wants to buy back all of the shares and make the price go up!!
Posted by Guthrie on :
It was a big joke! ahahaha!!! sorry the door was fully open...but i'm in this **** too
Sorry again guys! Posted by Slippery Wing on :
come on, just lie to us man, we're used to it!
Posted by shomethamoney on :
Dude I was laughing so hard when I seen your name I was crying. That is the best one anybody has pulled yet don't be sorry. You seriously need to pretend like you are Guthrie and make yourself president and answer the questions. At least someone will be giving us answers. Good job Guthrie thats classic - I just wish I would have thought of it first!!!!
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by Guthrie: It was a big joke! ahahaha!!! sorry the door was fully open...but i'm in this **** too
Sorry again guys!
It is Guthrie cause he is denying what he just said previously.........hmmmm Posted by shomethamoney on :
Ladies and gentlemen please give your undivided attention and what's left of your money to Mr. AKA Guthrie LOL!!!
Posted by Rules on :
You know what, this is probably how the real Guthrie got his so-called scam companies going. Made up a name, phone number, company, and then posted in a forum like this promoting a great stock to buy lol.
Posted by shomethamoney on :
I would hope that Guthrie isn't that stupid to come in here. Waisting more time in here and not doing what he needs to be and that is work. Do us a favor and get a job at the Circle K and buy back all of the shares. With my calculations that should come to - OH SAY about one weeks pay check hahahahahaha
Posted by Pretorian on :
Well the dice is cast!
I've emailed the Guthrie, no real replies, now he will face the music....I will keep you all posted on how it is going.
ps:I just hope it wasn't Guthrie who posted b/c if it were him, that would prove that he is a real petty small mother*******r.
Posted by johnny14511 on :
i sold mine in one of the last days with high volume
Posted by youngface on :
I've had sell order in for 2 weeks at 0002, has anyone been able to sell this at 0002?
Posted by johnny14511 on :
when i put in my sell order it sold like 90% at .0001 and like 10% at .0002
i sold like 3.2 million at .0002 and like 31 million at .0001
im glad i just wanted my .0001
but i was surprised
Posted by johnny14511 on :
hey gurthie were you at ?
i ahve a little something for you
Posted by youngface on :
Yeah, I'm thinking I just want my 0001 back too, at least scottrade likes me Posted by evokiosk on :
I'm holding onto mine. I paid a lot of money for these shares and I'm not leaving until either news of a reverse split or I at least make my money back.
Posted by youngface on :
evo, the problem is it's hard to sell when you get RS news.. I would wait if saw some B/S going through at 0003 once and a while but I have not seen 0003 for a while on my ticker... no takers at 0002, for me that is... I'm also taking a beating on PLNI right now so I'm just frustrated with this penny BS...
Posted by johnny14511 on :
quote:Originally posted by youngface: evo, the problem is it's hard to sell when you get RS news.. I would wait if saw some B/S going through at 0003 once and a while but I have not seen 0003 for a while on my ticker... no takers at 0002, for me that is... I'm also taking a beating on PLNI right now so I'm just frustrated with this penny BS...
lol
thats how you got to start out..
my best advive is sell with a loss and then try some other ones...best ones to play are the ones that are oversold and in their bottoms as long as you get a 10-20% gain keep on doing it over and over again
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Hello all ------------------ did someone just buy CWFG ??
Posted by David2376 on :
It appears Mr Guthrie has finally submitted his registration with CCR, it is now in the approval process. Now he can bid on contracts! I wonder if he's actually going to, seeing how he has supposdly been bidding all this time with no CCR registration. We know he has already released false PRs stating that CWFG is bidding on contracts, when in fact they couldn't with no CCR registration. Well, I guess they possibly could submit bids....they would just be filed in the trash and not awarded.
------ From FEMA's website: http://www.fema.gov/priv/pao/hurr_katrina/docs/Contract_Procedures.doc ------ 2. What requirements are there for bidding on a government contract? According to the Federal Acquisition Regulations System, prospective contractors need to register in the CCR database prior to being awarded a contract agreement. Prime contractors are not required to have their subcontractors register.
------ http://www.ccr.gov DUNS #: 604257027 ------ Current Registration Status: New Registration approval in Process as of Thursday, November 03, 2005. If timeframe is over 1 week, call CCR Customer Service at 888-227-2423
[ November 03, 2005, 10:56: Message edited by: David2376 ]
Posted by PhoenixStockMaster on :
I would like to know why the $%*& no one can pin this $%^hole down. If this is a scam he is going to be in some deep &*^%. Personally, I am getting really ticked with all of this - as I know all of you are. I am physically tired from checking daily to see if there is any positive news from this idiot. Alas, it is the same news post everytime. Give us some good news so this stock can go up a few micro pennies and we all can get the hell out and leave him in the same situation he has left us. ALONE!
Posted by matto on :
YEA!!!!!!
Posted by shomethamoney on :
David - You know what the sad part is, is that I called him yesterday morning about the CCR number and he had no clue of not having the proper information submitted. Here we are stockholders and doing the follow up for this guys business. He honestly did not have a clue that they were not clear. How could you not know if you are or are not clear? You know they have to be telling them to check their number through their system to make sure that everything is ok to move forward. It is really hard to believe that he does have anything in the works at this point, because if he doesn't know how to take care of the small matters how would even know where to begin with the large ones. He just needs to know at this point that we are taking serious steps to having him answer those over him. This isn't a game it is going to cost him dearly and possibly jail time if this thing is as bad as we think it could be. OTC and SEC have been notified and Mr. Guthrie has been made aware of what is going on in the situation.
Posted by shomethamoney on :
PS - To the man who signed in as Guthrie - If you are Guthrie I hope that you read my last post and specifically the jail time, because it is a real possibility if you don't have something to show for what you have been doing. I hope for your sake that you have a great and real productive day!!!
Posted by David2376 on :
shomethamoney.....I was just thinking the same thing. I guess since he doesn't have any employees to do his leg work, we the shareholders are his employees.
Just spoke with a rep from CCR and was told it is impossible to even submit bids without complete CCR registration. Companies that are not fully registered with CCR would not have access to potential contracts. All companies awarded contracts are paid directly from the government via wire transfers through CCR.
They were very interested in what was going on and told me that I would receive a call from someone higher up the chain.
I have DDed this company to death.....Possibly literally!
Posted by shomethamoney on :
David that good and make sure to keep up with the date and name of the contact that you spoke with. All of this information will be used with the OTC and SEC informants. Not only that but if this guy is lying which it looks 99.999% he is going to pay dearly and this time he won't be riding out on any horse.
Posted by Guthrie on :
No i'm just another shareholder who bought before the last split....But I think we should hold until december...like ITGJ dudes But I believe in ITGJ more than CWFG...
The Gov process take time....
This is not a short 1 month game, but 3 to 4......
That's my opinion...
Posted by shomethamoney on :
Guthrie - I see what you are saying but you have to read our posts in along with the PR's that the guy has put out. Those supposedly contracts that he put in for are not going to happen at this point because at the time of submission he had no CCR number which would put him in a forfeit position. His bid will be tossed aside because his application was not complete.
Posted by shomethamoney on :
Current Registration Status: Registration is undergoing IRS Consent Validation. This may take 24-48 hours.
DUNS: 604257027 DUNS PLUS4: CAGE/NCAGE Code: 47A50 Legal Business Name: COMMONWEALTH AMERICAN FINANCIAL GROUP, INC Doing Business As (DBA): Division Name: Division Number Company URL: http://www.cwmf.net
He is still not CCR clear!!! NO BIDS WILL BE ACCEPTED FROM THIS GUY.
Posted by agrimac on :
what is happening there appears to be no buys or sells this last 2 hours
Posted by Guthrie on :
Good find Gman - The guy looks like a used car salesman hahaha
Posted by johnny14511 on :
if i ever bump into this guy in the street .........ughhhhhhhh
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
Anyone notice that CMSI has not traded since October 27......It was at .03 at that time.....
Kinda makes me go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by Big Green 1: Anyone notice that CMSI has not traded since October 27......It was at .03 at that time.....
Kinda makes me go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....
Am I the only one who feels screwed by this whole thing?
Posted by shomethamoney on :
CMSI was changed in to CWMF which now is CWFG. He changed the names to get more buyers. New name means people will see it more on the front end. More investors sucked into the scheme of things. Continual movement on his behalf to keep it so that he can make PR's. If you look at all of the articles it says that the company named him "Guthrie" the president of CMSI or CWMF or CWFG. ALL SCAM!!!
Posted by shomethamoney on :
BG sorry I was wrong CMSI is not apart of CWMF I don't think.
Posted by andrew on :
Thats it!!! Thanks guys for helping me make up my mind. I am selling at .00000000000000001 and no less. RUN FOR YOUR LIFE.....aaarrrgghhh!
Posted by Polarbear17 on :
Why would you sell now, i have 80% of my portfoile tied up in this , and i belive once tthe MM's have there way and make there money shorting this , news of contracts will make this pop, Can't see this going much higher than .0005 but thats fine with me. Its not Guthrie that one has to worry about its the MM's sitting behind a photocopy machine printing out shares , The company only benefits when the PPS gos up. The mm's will cellarbox and keep it there till they make there profits .
Posted by johnny14511 on :
80% of your porfolio?
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
Here's a thought. though I don't know if it would work....
Let's start a play on CMSI - force the price up, sell, take our rpofits from that, and sell everything in cwfg at .0001
Any thoughts?
BG
Posted by Lucas Brachish on :
So is that it, then? The verdict is to leave at .0001-.0002? If we can even sell at .0001-.0002 .... is selling still even an option, now that the word is getting out that this is a money pit? (Wish I wasn't averaged at .0003, or this wouldn't sting as bad, although holding anything for this long and losing is bound to sting)
How possible is it that we're seeing:
Shorting, and/or the MMs and CEO trying to fake 'n shake us out before they announce some non-FEMA contracts that don't need CCR registration.... giving the pps a momentary jump during which they can sell ... classic pump and dump stuff... 'cause right now they just keep dumping without even bothering to pump, which seems foolish even from the scammers point of view. (Or just sloppy.)
I'll be honest: This whole thing looks like a flaming pile of sh** to me right now. But shomethamoney's post says "Current Registration Status: Registration is undergoing IRS Consent Validation. This may take 24-48 hours," so it might be worth it to see whether or not the IRS does validate the registration or not. Then we'll know whether to wait or go go go.....
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
Lucas-
My post was just a thought.....
some of us have been holding this for a month prior to the split, and have gotten severly burned. Myself, I am a TOTAL idiot. I sold out to take a dvantage of some other plays, and got BACK in at 2
Guthrie has another company, CMSI, so I thought about trying to get money from there, and shaft him with everyone selling this turd at 1
Just my moronic mind trying to figure out a way to stick it to this lying piece of sheep dung from down under.
PLEASE - NO OFFENSE intended to the GOOD folks from Australia
Posted by dalton05 on :
I am holding not worth selling yet.
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
I don't think I'd throw another penny at this guy (or any of his companies) until he proves to me that he's honestly trying to run a business.
Posted by Polarbear17 on :
I do belive you might be right Lucas on the Fake & Shake thing , i'm in for 1mil at and average of .000175 so even if i sold at .0002 if i could i'd be in the green , lets hold till we see what happens with the "Current Registration Status: Registration is undergoing IRS Consent Validation. This may take 24-48 hours," Then we will have a better idea were we stand. looking for the news to make it pop to .0005 is that to much to ask for ...
Posted by Guthrie on :
Here some info :
See the guidance at
********************************************* FAR 4.1103(c)
(c) If the contracting officer, when awarding a contract or agreement, determines that a prospective contractor is not registered in the CCR database and an exception to the registration requirements for the award does not apply (see 4.1102), the contracting officer shall—
(1) If the needs of the requiring activity allow for a delay, make award after the apparently successful offeror has registered in the CCR database. The contracting officer shall advise the offeror of the number of days it will be allowed to become registered. If the offeror does not become registered by the required date, the contracting officer shall award to the next otherwise successful registered offeror following the same procedures (i.e., if the next apparently successful offeror is not registered, the contracting officer shall advise the offeror of the number of days it will be allowed to become registered, etc.); or
(2) If the needs of the requiring activity do not allow for a delay, proceed to award to the next otherwise successful registered offeror, provided that written approval is obtained at one level above the contracting officer.
*****************************************
No problemo guys.....Guthrie as another chance...
"The contracting officer shall advise the offeror of the number of days it will be allowed to become registered" Posted by Big Green 1 on :
err, uhhh, yeh - provided the contractign officer can get in touch with Guthrie....
Good luck with that project.....
Posted by Rules on :
I'm holding as selling at .0001 is almost as no different than letting it go under in my case.
Posted by andrew on :
PLEASE....Mr. Guthrie.....Please sign atleast one darn contract.....even if you dont sign, just tell that you did....Please
Help me guys I am losing it...
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Here's what I suggest.
If you were smart enough to gamble with money you were willing to lose, then just put this stock at the absolute bottom of your portfolio and QUIT LOOKING AT IT EVERY DAY!
Nothings going to happen with the stock till we get a good PR, so instead of looking at the value of your CWFG stock, scan the news, and don't worry about the stock till you see news.
If you sell now, I understand, because the true cost of this stock is now the lost oportunity cost in other stocks. However, since CWFG is such a small portion of my portfolio, the oportunity cost is rather low.
Just my advice, but you need to decide NOW if you're willing to write this one off. If so, just sit on it and quit fretting about it. If not, then get out and go find the next winner.
Just my opinion, of course.
-Slip
(edited for typo at 13:50 CDT)
Posted by xeno on :
So why can I not sell at rock bottom? I have it for sale at a limit of 0.0001
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by xeno: So why can I not sell at rock bottom? I have it for sale at a limit of 0.0001
Why not just sell it at market instead of a limit so that way it will sell you at any price? Unless you are trying to dump 10 billion shares, I don't see why you would not be able to get filled in a day.
Posted by Doctoall on :
quote:Originally posted by xeno: So why can I not sell at rock bottom? I have it for sale at a limit of 0.0001
I was able to sell 766000 at 0.0001 today, the order was in for about 4 days and was a partial fill only Posted by so uh wheres ma money on :
Good NEWS guys.. I just checked the CCR site.. and the following is what I found. Well.. at least it's a step in the right direction.
Current Registration Status: Active in CCR; Registration valid until 11/04/2006.
DUNS: 604257027 DUNS PLUS4: CAGE/NCAGE Code: 47A50 Legal Business Name: COMMONWEALTH AMERICAN FINANCIAL GROUP, INC Doing Business As (DBA): Division Name: Division Number Company URL: http://www.cwmf.net
Physical Street Address 1: 111 2ND AVENUE NE SUITE 910 Physical Street Address 2: Physical City: SAINT PETERSBURG Physical State: FL Physical Zip/Postal Code: 33701-3434 Physical Country: USA
Mailing Name: DAMIAN GUTHRIE Mailing Address: 111 2ND AVENUE NE SUITE 910 Mailing Address 2: Mailing City: SAINT PETERSBURG Mailing State: FL Mailing Zip/Postal Code: 33701-3434 Mailing Country: USA
Business Start Date: 06/16/2005
Posted by johnny14511 on :
i just talked to mr gurthie
he said hes been through some rough times and theres nothing he can do now im kind of sorry to my share holders
Gurthie: I myself try to get rid of my shares but its impossible at times like this Johnny: why did you mess up when did it go wrong Gurthie: it all started when i was young
....end of conversation
lol
Posted by Rules on :
I just got an email from Guthrie:
Rules: Mr. Guthrie could you tell us what the current situation is with CWFG?
Guthrie: What is CWFG?
Rules: You know, your company's stock symbol.
Guthrie: Oh yea, I knew that. Things are going great! We are currently looking at possibly landing a major contract sometime this month.
Rules: That is great, could you tell us more?
Guthrie: Sure, we are looking at possibly getting the contract to find the Andrea Gale, you know the boat that went down in the Perfect Storm. It was hurricane related and we think we have narrowed down it's location to somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean! We are currently gathering as much film footage from the movie to get a more precise location of where she went down.
Rules: Wow, that is amazing. Any hopes of posting any revenue soon?
Guthrie: Oh yes, look for a PR either this month or next pertaining to that.
Rules: Sounds good, I just wanted to make sure that my investment in your company was a sound one.
Guthrie: Absolutely it was. Thanks again for your money........I mean thanks again for sending me an email Rules.
Take care, Guthrie
Posted by QBID'n on :
quote:Originally posted by johnny14511: i just talked to mr gurthie
he said hes been through some rough times and theres nothing he can do now im kind of sorry to my share holders
Gurthie: I myself try to get rid of my shares but its impossible at times like this Johnny: why did you mess up when did it go wrong Gurthie: it all started when i was young
....end of conversation
lol
hahaha...heeheelarious johnny Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by Rules: I just got an email from Guthrie:
Rules: Mr. Guthrie could you tell us what the current situation is with CWFG?
Guthrie: What is CWFG?
Rules: You know, your company's stock symbol.
Guthrie: Oh yea, I knew that. Things are going great! We are currently looking at possibly landing a major contract sometime this month.
Rules: That is great, could you tell us more?
Guthrie: Sure, we are looking at possibly getting the contract to find the Andrea Gale, you know the boat that went down in the Perfect Storm. It was hurricane related and we think we have narrowed down it's location to somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean! We are currently gathering as much film footage from the movie to get a more precise location of where she went down.
Rules: Wow, that is amazing. Any hopes of posting any revenue soon?
Guthrie: Oh yes, look for a PR either this month or next pertaining to that.
Rules: Sounds good, I just wanted to make sure that my investment in your company was a sound one.
Guthrie: Absolutely it was. Thanks again for your money........I mean thanks again for sending me an email Rules.
Take care, Guthrie
As you can see guys, I am feeling much better about my investment in this company.
Posted by QBID'n on :
quote:Originally posted by Rules:
quote:Originally posted by Rules: I just got an email from Guthrie:
Rules: Mr. Guthrie could you tell us what the current situation is with CWFG?
Guthrie: What is CWFG?
Rules: You know, your company's stock symbol.
Guthrie: Oh yea, I knew that. Things are going great! We are currently looking at possibly landing a major contract sometime this month.
Rules: That is great, could you tell us more?
Guthrie: Sure, we are looking at possibly getting the contract to find the Andrea Gale, you know the boat that went down in the Perfect Storm. It was hurricane related and we think we have narrowed down it's location to somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean! We are currently gathering as much film footage from the movie to get a more precise location of where she went down.
Rules: Wow, that is amazing. Any hopes of posting any revenue soon?
Guthrie: Oh yes, look for a PR either this month or next pertaining to that.
Rules: Sounds good, I just wanted to make sure that my investment in your company was a sound one.
Guthrie: Absolutely it was. Thanks again for your money........I mean thanks again for sending me an email Rules.
Take care, Guthrie
As you can see guys, I am feeling much better about my investment in this company.
hahahaha...man i'm buying more!!! buy! buy! buy!
Posted by tom548 on :
This is loser stock. They keep changing !
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by tom548: This is loser stock. They keep changing !
Are you serious? This is by far the best investment I ever made! Any stock that runs from 40 cents down to .0001 in two months and then forward splits to .0001 is a fantastic company. You know the number one thing I learned is that ANY stock that plummets, plummets for a reason! This was an extremely valuable lesson that has cost me a grand to learn. Best class I ever took! Here is what I have learned:
1) Don't invest in a stock that spirals downward.
2) Don't invest in a company that has NO REVENUE!
3) Don't invest in a stock that has a trillion shares in the float and continues to get bigger.
4) Never invest in a CEO who has no track record and does nothing.
5) Avoid companies that tell you the MM's are scewing you, while the CEO is dumping shares into the market.
6) Never trust a CEO who keeps telling you........"Next month........Next month."
7) Sell into hype.
8) Pump and dumps are bad.
9) Forward and reverse splits blow.
10) Last but not least, when a company has a cell phone number, no employees, and doesn't exist...............then beware!
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
I think that's the best post I've read on this board in a long time.
It even beats out all the worthless PR's put together!
-Slip
Posted by johnny14511 on :
yeah to me i also take it as a lesson that cost me money but thats how you learn
Posted by dalton05 on :
News for 'CWMF' - (Commonwealth American Financial Group Names New President)
ST.PETERSBURG, Fla., Nov 07, 2005 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc.(Pink Sheets: CWFG) today announced that Kristin Mary Ryals has been named President & Chief Operating Officer of Commonwealth American Financial Group Inc.
Ms. Ryals a seasoned professional and resident of Florida, intends to accelerate and modify the existing Commonwealth corporate business plan, which is to invest in distressed or redevelopment projects either as the developer, joint venture partner, or lender and aggressively pursue mezzanine/interim financing commitments from contractors who have won bids already and lack the financial ability to perform/complete said contracts and fast track all of the company's in house bidding processes & pending bids.
The company will also expand its areas of operations to include Florida along with the other hurricane ravaged areas already being served by the company. The company will also aggressively pursue acquisitions or merger partners that compliment the existing business plan in Texas and Louisiana.
The company currently is considering several additional opportunities either by acquisition or mergers to augment its existing operations such as acquiring a general contracting firm with approved contracts already in place, creating an emergency services division or acquiring/merging with sub contracting firms with contracts for services to companies that already have won bids and are ready to go.
"We believe, per the initial estimated monetary damage due to the hurricanes in the communities served by the company that damages could reach several billion dollars, thus we are positioning the company to be a major supplier of services and expertise in these areas. The company over the next several weeks will undergo several divisional changes and form certain new subsidiaries and divisions to enhance the company's objectives and success while maintaining no change in the company's capital structure while enhancing shareholder value," said Ms. Ryals President & Chief Operating Officer.
"I would like to thank the Board of Directors and my predecessor Mr. Guthrie for the opportunity to serve in this capacity for a company that I believe is positioned to be a major force in the industry and community it serves, I look forward to the future of the company and its challenges/successes as we build our company, I am proud to be a part of it," said Ms. Kristin Mary Ryals.
Posted by bmarley5780 on :
Actually this is the BEST news to date! I like this news almost better the contract news...
Anyone else agree???!!!
Posted by Persia on :
Hell yeah!
Posted by bmarley5780 on :
LOL=
No one saw this comin! I guess you guys scared the Hell outta Mr. G !!!
LMAO!!!
Posted by shomethamoney on :
It's amazing what notifying the OTC board can do to a man hahahaha.
Posted by bmarley5780 on :
Hmm- maybe a new thread is needed since this PR changes ALOT...
Posted by matto on :
ok its monday!and my b-day WOW, WHAT A PRESENT!!!!!
Posted by Persia on :
0.001 range doesn't seem that far after all... Posted by bmarley5780 on :
Is this our Kristen Ryals
"Companies have adopted measures like 'economic value added' as primary financial measures to show investors how their returns exceed expectations," explains Kristen Ryals , project manager at Best Practices LLC. "Measures like EVA correlate better with company share prices than traditional measures such as EPS."
Posted by Jmoove on :
I actually think we may see a small spike on this news,
Everyone start googling this kristin lady lol
Posted by Persia on :
What happens to Guthrie?
Posted by bmarley5780 on :
Not much on Google....
Posted by Persia on :
Maybe this Kristen Ryals is just his wife... Posted by shomethamoney on :
Let's all hope for a good monday. Good News with Ms. Ryals, we will shortly see.
Posted by shomethamoney on :
HAPPY BDAY MATTO!!!
Posted by fishfarmer on :
Rollem boys and girls!!!!!
Posted by matto on :
Thank you! I was going to take a loss on this and play others but,now i will go for a ride with Ms. Ryals. HEHEHE
Posted by QBID'n on :
ANYTHING new on Ryal's yet?...anyone
Happy B-day Matto
Posted by matto on :
qbid my favor stock ever still own 25 mill has made me alot!!!!! now it will be my 30 mill in this!
Posted by bmarley5780 on :
This was all that I found... Dont know if its ours though...
"Companies have adopted measures like 'economic value added' as primary financial measures to show investors how their returns exceed expectations," explains Kristen Ryals , project manager at Best Practices LLC. "Measures like EVA correlate better with company share prices than traditional measures such as EPS."
Posted by QBID'n on :
quote:Originally posted by matto: qbid my favor stock ever still own 25 mill has made me alot!!!!! now it will be my 30 mill in this!
WOW!!!...30M...I wish us all good luck Posted by fishfarmer on :
I had this in at .0003 for days, Im changing to .0005 boys and girls. Posted by Jmoove on :
HDSN on the bid, yes we actually have a bid
.0001x.0002 1x5
Posted by Persia on :
LOL
Posted by Lu01eg on :
Not sure if a female CEO will get any contract preference but I know gov contracts specifically address female/minority/locally owned companies getting preferences.
Posted by bmarley5780 on :
Thats correct Lu01.
Posted by matto on :
What happens to Guthrie? do we know anything about his status?
Posted by Guthrie on :
Even if Guthrie's wife..... lol
Posted by shomethamoney on :
Guthrie don't you know if it is your wife or not LOL!!!
Posted by matto on :
WOW!!!!!!!!
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Uh, oh.
Somebodies buyin'
Posted by shomethamoney on :
This is looking like it could be good today boys and girls!!! GO KRISTEN!!!
Posted by Jmoove on :
no vol yet
Posted by Guthrie on :
anyone have some info on Kristin Mary Ryals? she's a first round draft pick? or not
Posted by Jmoove on :
huh, i think my alphatrade is down :-(, cause etrade shows vol lol
Posted by Persia on :
Sell target? Between 0.001 and 0.002. It's going to be a green christmas... Posted by Slippery Wing on :
I don't know. She's got an aweful lot of work to do to make nice with all the people Guthrie irritated.
She's also got a ton of work to turn guthries company around...
Course, I guess it's not Guthrie's company any more... HA!
Posted by Jmoove on :
we need a few more to join the bid at .0001 before we see some real volume
Posted by Fairly_New on :
"I would like to thank the Board of Directors and my PREDECESSER Mr. Guthrie for the opportunity to serve in this capacity for a company that I believe is positioned to be a major force in the industry and community it serves, I look forward to the future of the company and its challenges/successes as we build our company, I am proud to be a part of it," said Ms. Kristin Mary Ryals.
----------- So is Guthrie retired ?? -- Or was this his intent to begin with -- raise $$$$, get some things going & then sell ?
Posted by Fairly_New on :
man, how can the dumping still continue ?
Posted by shomethamoney on :
Because we do not have contracts yet. When she posts out a good PR that something has came in solid for the company it will make a swing. Hang in there Fairly!!!
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Oh, I'm not going anywhere !!!
Posted by Slippery Wing on :
Question.
Her official title is COO and President.
So, who is the CEO? Is that still Guthrie?
That part's not clear....
Posted by TalonSin on :
How can they be "positioned to be a major force in the industry" and yet not have one contract for work?
Posted by Skyman on :
I got in at .0001 initially and just got at .0001. I'm happy.
Posted by Fairly_New on :
must have been your 3Mil buy that went thru -- good for you
Posted by Skyman on :
YES SIR THIS BABY'S GOIN' TO THE MOON!!!!! BUT I WON'T BE ON IT!!!!!!!!!!
EEEEEEEEEYOOOOOWEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Fairly_New on :
Someone lite the fuse ----- Posted by Big Green 1 on :
I cant find my waterproof matches, so I'm knockin a couple of rocks togehter for a spark.................................. sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssBAM
Posted by JIF on :
quote:Originally posted by bmarley5780: Hmm- maybe a new thread is needed since this PR changes ALOT...
I totally agree. Let's start a new thread - new thread for a new chapter in the company.
Posted by Big Green 1 on :
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Let Guthrie do what he has to do instead of field nasty grams all day. He is listening and knows that we do not want a R/S. If you are going to pester him, then try to convince him to retire shares as that would really make this stock fly!
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My fellow newbie, I am longer on this stock then you are. Just because I state the obvious doesn't mean I am bashing. I am stuck on this stock just like everyone else. It feels good to vent every now and then. This stock sucks ![[Mad]](mad.gif)