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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
Hope ya'll like this one - no negativity allowed on this thread. Anyone have something negative, or accusitory to say on this thread needs to take it elsewhere....GO CWFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Posted by rickpic on :
 
13:46 10/03/2005 CWMF Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc. Common Stock CWFG Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc. New Common Stock 3-2 F/S; Payable Upon Surrender **
 

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Posted by Ric on :
 
And you own this board how? Since when do you decide what people can and can not post?
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
All right all you mathmaticians ----- DO THIS

Take your shares, divide by 2 then muliply by 3

simple enough ?????
 

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Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
How about everybody drop the f/s trying to make everyone understand. This is getting ridiculous. Divide the number of shares you have by 100, then multiply that number by 50 and I guarantee you monday morning you will have that number in your account.
 

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Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
PS - forgot to add this. Add that number with the number of shares you already own and that will be the number of shares you have in your account Monday.

Example 1000 / 100 = 10 X 50 = 500 + your original 1000 = 1500.
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
This is downright funny! I need the laugh to end this week!!!
 

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Posted by podcaster on :
 
okay- didn't want to set off a panic but now it's after close so i'll mention this. old hands already know but most newbies don't, so explaining it now will blunt the panic that's coming monday a.m. on this. here's the straight skinny:

most of you will NOT be able to electronically trade your shares come monday morning. it may be several days before you can trade them. meanwhile, you "may" be able to trade them with a phone call to your broker, unless ceo whatshisname is REALLY filthy and opts to do hardcopy transfer, in which case you all have to wait 'til a messenger gets your new shares to your broker's office. 'nuff said
 

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Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
BIG RED I am with you. Today's my B'day so I'm outta here. Everyone have a great weekend and I hope you the best come Monday whether you divided your shares away or multiplied your shares to have more than everyone else hahahaha. C - YA!!!! :-)
 

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Posted by Jmoove on :
 
for the love of god... lol :-)

number of shares multiply by 1.5 = number of shares post split

3 divided by 2 = 1.5

2 for 1 split = 2 divided by 1 = 2

and so on

my point with the 33% was that someone simply mis multiplied bc it looks like 33% if you are simply looking at the Pre and post o/s numbers...eh, just look above and thats how many shares youll have lol

Have a good weekend all
 

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Posted by Superbee383 on :
 
Happy Birthday Shome!! I hope you have a super weekend!

And on another note, if anyone plans on buying or selling on Monday, check with your brokerage firm. I believe that Ameritrade charges ALOT for a phone trade. It's posted somewhere on the website. I don't know about the other firms though.
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
This reminds me of "Who's on first" - and if I have to explain that, then you're way to young.....LOL
 

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Posted by Superbee383 on :
 
What's on second? LOL
 

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Posted by matto on :
 
Big am i missing the fun!
 

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Posted by Ric on :
 
The point messed up in last thread is

3 is a 50% increase of 2

2 is a 33% decrease of 3

If you have 100 shares and increase it by 50% how many shares will you have 150 right.

100 X .50 (50%) = 50 100+50=150

If you have 100 shares and increase it by 33% how many shares will you have 133 right.

100 X .33 (33%) = 33 100+33=133

So which is correct???

I will not say another word on it. Simply mathematics. to multiple percentage you move decimal 2 places to the left and multiple then add back to original number.

Just look at the ticker for this stock for eample. If the pps is .0002 and it goes to .0003 then it will show a 50% increase .

I think people are seeing 2/3rds in there head instead of 2 increasing to 3. A 33% increase of 2 is only 2.66, a 50% increase of 2 is 3.

Good luck all

[ September 30, 2005, 17:14: Message edited by: Ric ]
 

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Posted by Danny K on :
 
Happy BDAY Shome!!! i am about out here too, have had enough work for one week. lol... How old are ya shome!!??
 

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Posted by matto on :
 
All this math is crazy funny!! All I want to know is will we make money or will we have a r/s tuesday!!!!!GLTA have a good weekend.
 

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Posted by Superbee383 on :
 
Geezus.. I know it's a 50% gain. But if you look at it like this.. if you have 100shs then after the 3:2, have 150 shs, which IS a 50% raise, it also looks like that 50 is 1/3 of 150.. But trust me, I know math too.. okay? enough now? Can we go on from here? Oh, and the price will start lower. It's figured opposite of the # of shs that way your total is actually the same price-wise.

Shs: 3:2 split = 100shs divided by 2 x 3 = 150
PPS: = .0003 divided by 3 x 2 = .0002.
That's for a SPLIT, not for a dividend like I think BTSI is giving.
 

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Posted by Ric on :
 
Well it is a scary thought. Logic dictates that if you increase the o/s, which a f/s does, then the pps will decrease by an equal percentage. What they are trying to do is caught shorty but the problem with that is the ones giving out the increased shares are shorty so they will only issue even more short shares to cover those who don't really own real shares. This is a common practice. We will see if it causes a short squeeze this time but it hasn't in the past.
 

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Posted by tongusc on :
 

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Originally posted by Ric:
Well it is a scary thought. Logic dictates that if you increase the o/s which a f/s does then the pps will decrease by an equal percentage. What they are trying to do is caught shorty but the problem with that is the ones giving out the increased shares are shorty so they will only issue even more short shares to cover thise who don't really own real shares. This is a common practice. We will see if it causes a short squeeze this time but it hasn't in the past.

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Originally posted by tongusc:

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Originally posted by Ric:
Well it is a scary thought. Logic dictates that if you increase the o/s which a f/s does then the pps will decrease by an equal percentage. What they are trying to do is caught shorty but the problem with that is the ones giving out the increased shares are shorty so they will only issue even more short shares to cover thise who don't really own real shares. This is a common practice. We will see if it causes a short squeeze this time but it hasn't in the past.

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Agree, that is exctaly what i was thinking. It first sounds a very good deal it give you extra shares, but think about O/S. It takes more buys to increase the PPS. TO me it will keep diluting unless some really good PR comes out. Sorry guys i don't want to be negative, but that is how i really think. I think this is a smart scam. i am not in this that is why i am not bias~ i maybe wrong. good luck guys.

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well, i didn't want to say it, but now it's been said i agree. and there's something else going on but like the emperor has no clothes and nobody wants to say so. good luck to all.
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 
Here's to Monday!
 

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Posted by needfastmoney on :
 
is this stock really going to move on monday what is everyone doing with their shares come monday?
 

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Posted by kywee on :
 
are they changing the symbol to UNQT?
 

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Posted by johnny14511 on :
 
it this

if you have 1000000

you will have 1500000
 

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Posted by Polarbear17 on :
 
Plan on holding till next Pr hopefully , good news about contracts , have 250,000 pre F/S.at average of .00035 hopeing to see .001.
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
Can anyone post the L2's for end of day ???

another board was saying that .0003's were pretty thin and should run ---- posted from another board

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Thats a good sign along with .0002 x .0004 after market.

Likely some of the MMs at .0003 closed.

I dont have pink L2 so I cannot really say but likely means .0003s are thin IMO
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
this was posted from another board

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email from CEO Guthrie...
Looks like we will get answers in the near future...
From Damian Guthrie Add Sender
Sent Friday, September 30, 2005 3:19 am
To XXXX
Subject Re: Shareholder questions.
Dear XXXX

Thank you for your interest in CWMF. We will be answering your questions and other shareholder queries after the forward split has been finally completed.

In relation to whether I own stock in CWMF the answer is yes.

Best regards

Damian Guthrie

-----Original Message-----
From: XXXX
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:56:47
To:tsolution*tampabay.rr.com
Subject: Shareholder questions.

Hello Mr. Guthrie, I am a new shareholder in Commonwealth and am
hoping that you can answer a few questions. First, can you reveal
share structure/ I'm wondering what the total authorized and total
outstanding are. Also, do you own shares in the company and what is
the float? Lastly. I noticed in a recent press release that you
mentioned the possibility of new acquisitions. Is the reason for the
forword split related to these? If not, why did you decide to do a
forword split at the present time? Thank you in advance for your
reply. XXXX
 

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Posted by DQ. on :
 
It's simple folks....I have 1 mill. shares. Monday I will have 1500000.
 

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Posted by DQ. on :
 
On a sad note...Monday I think I'll have not 1 mill. but 1 1/2 mill. pieces of crap.
Hope they have a hurricane contract or something to help. This didn't move up one bit ahead of the free shares. Sorry for the neg. but that's the facts.
 

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Posted by podcaster on :
 

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Originally posted by needfastmoney:
is this stock really going to move on monday what is everyone doing with their shares come monday?

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Originally posted by Lu01eg:
My response from Scottrade
Dear Customer,
Thank you for your email. As soon as our operations department receives the new shares from the company, your account will be updated. Most likely it will be Monday however sometimes these situations take about 3-5 business days. Everything will change to CWFG. Please feel free to email with further questions.
Scottrade Inc.

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thanks for good info luoleg---
key phrases: "as soon as", "most likely", "however... 3-5 business DAYS"
all i'm saying is "foreknowledge prevents panic" and folks should know that it commonly takes AT LEAST 3 trading days- i once had to wait 2 weeks on one of these. hadda call my broker every time i wanted to adjust my sell order. drove me NUTS!!!
 

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Posted by Andreas on :
 
For those who use eTrade, here is their response on how the symbol change will work. They did not mention a fee, so I will have to find out this week, if they actually charge for it:


____________________________________

Thank you for your email concerning a stock split in your account. I do have the security CWMF Commonwealth American Financial Group that will undergo a symbol change, effective date 10/03/05, to symbol CWFG. This change is also a split ratio of 3-2. These changes will happen for you automatically once E*TRADE receives the new shares from the transfer agents which is typically on the ex-date, 10/03/05 in this case. You will not be able to trade the new symbol until the shares have been delivered.
 

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Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Move forward and hope that we have a great day tomorrow
 

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Posted by Jmoove on :
 
Red, NASD will provide a little more oversight, but nothing noticeable, imho
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
Thanks Jmoove, I wasn't sure of the impact...Here's to a profit filled week for all of us, in all we trade!!
 

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Posted by OO7 on :
 
Im shoting for .0009 , Someday when the contracts come out we will all be happy! Ive got a feeling soon!!!!
 

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Posted by ya ya on :
 
News for 'CWMF' - (Commonwealth American Financial Group Announces New Symbol Change and Purchase of Residential Mortgages)


ST. PETERSBURG, Fla., Oct 03, 2005 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc. (PINK SHEETS: CWMF) announces that the company has received notification from the NASDAQ that the new symbol for Commonwealth American Financial Group is CWFG. The new symbol will become effective 10/3/2005 as of the commencement of trading. Commonwealth American Financial Group has also successfully negotiated to purchase a package of residential mortgage loans from Miami, Fla. The mortgages are short term and yield a 15% return to Commonwealth American Financial Group.

The mission of Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc. is to invest in land development projects either as developer, joint venture partner, or lender and create mezzanine financing opportunities. The company will also grow by acquiring subsidiaries in related fields such as construction, real estate brokerage-appraisal-management, in the states of Florida, Texas and Louisiana.

Mr. Guthrie, President, said, "As well as investing in the Hurricane affected areas in Texas and Louisiana, we must still capitalize on the returns that can be made in the flourishing Florida real estate market that still exists."
 

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Posted by Jmoove on :
 
So finally a little income then? lol This lotto ticket better pay off! heres to a good day all around!
 

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Posted by matto on :
 
Its news and hopfully it will be a green week!
 

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Posted by ya ya on :
 
B/A .0001 - .0002
 

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Posted by Jmoove on :
 
hardly any mms on board yet
 

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Posted by Cpt. Morgan on :
 
ok guys whats happening here, I have etrade, and it shows CWFG, but no price or volume
 

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Posted by Jmoove on :
 
not all mms have updated yet, i have etrade and i still show cwmf, it might take till tomorrow
 

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Posted by matto on :
 
WE HAVE MOVMENT!!!! LETS ROLL
 

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Posted by rfggator on :
 
what is the movement and price, etrade showing nothing.....thanks
 

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Posted by Jmoove on :
 
nite just bumped off of 2

1x2
6x1
 

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Posted by fishfarmer on :
 

 

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Posted by Jmoove on :
 
2x3
1x3

nite on the bid
 

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Posted by so uh wheres ma money on :
 
When can we sell.. well.. at least it's good to see some movement..
 

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Posted by Cpt. Morgan on :
 
Anybody know how to put in for a limit bid on etrade right now, mine hasnt updated the shares or the change in ticker, do you have to call them?
 

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Posted by matto on :
 
well ya ya we are not bag holders
 

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Posted by Jmoove on :
 
on the phone with etrade right now to find out why they arent out to play with the other big boys
 

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Posted by johnny14511 on :
 
can anybody see it as a stock they own
 

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Posted by Cpt. Morgan on :
 
Thanks Jmoove
 

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Posted by ya ya on :
 
I think most will sell there shares once they can and keep the free shares.
 

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Posted by Jmoove on :
 
skinny from etrade, "you have the shares your account just wont see them for 2 days, but if you want to place a trade go through a broker directly AT NO CHARGE, 1-888-388-2900, have your account number handy, take about 4 mins to complete the transaction

i figured that this would be the case, but just to confirm for all of us
 

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Posted by matto on :
 
do anyone know about scottrade?
 

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Posted by Jmoove on :
 
same thing, im 90% sure, just call them to get the direct access broker number, i think its listed on the website also, you may have to dig
 

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Posted by Mack on :
 
i got the shares in my account but i use mytradz
 

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Posted by ya ya on :
 
B/A back to .0001 - .0002
 

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Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Hi Everyone,

I read some of the posts in here and I am surprised. They come out with news about money coming in and the stock has split so the MMS are going to start having trouble. Now everyone trying to get out fast. Hang in there everyone. There is going to be more good news on the way. I think it is early to be jumping off the ship. I don't not want to sway anyone either way, do what you will but it looks like Guthrie is trying to make a real impression on the investors. I think our calls and emails have put his feet to the fire. I hope you all the best whatever you decide.
 

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Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Volume is moving on buy orders per Scottrade. Good things are going on with this stock!!!
 

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Posted by kptmoe on :
 
i am very high and on this stock
 

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Posted by Cpt. Morgan on :
 
any L2's
 

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Posted by Superbee383 on :
 
I don't understand. The only thing showing in my Ameritrade account, is the # of shares after the split, but NOT the original #. In other words, if you had 1 mill shs, and you were expecting 1.5 mill shs after the split, only the .5 mill is showing. The 1 mill is in some black hole somewhere
 

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Posted by Cpt. Morgan on :
 
am I reading this right, it seems that volume is pretty low, are most people sticking to their guns with this stock?
 

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Posted by Rules on :
 

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Originally posted by Superbee383:
I don't understand. The only thing showing in my Ameritrade account, is the # of shares after the split, but NOT the original #. In other words, if you had 1 mill shs, and you were expecting 1.5 mill shs after the split, only the .5 mill is showing. The 1 mill is in some black hole somewhere

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Originally posted by Fairly_New:
All right all you mathmaticians ----- DO THIS

Take your shares, divide by 2 then muliply by 3

simple enough ?????

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Originally posted by johnny14511:
it this

if you have 1000000

you will have 1500000

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Exactly - your shares x 1.5

Why is that so hard for people?
 

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Posted by kptmoe on :
 
scottrade showing the value of the split in overall account value of split but does not show the actual shares yet==thats weak
 

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Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Im on this stock too and wishing I was very high!
 

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Posted by JIF on :
 
I agree with you guys: Let's all just hold tight. If we can shake the naked short selling, this should have a really nice long bounce (adjustment) back to where it should be.

Personally, I think that is somewhere in the area of .015 (post split).
 

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Posted by Jmoove on :
 
Not to be the bearer of bad news, but there is NO WAY this is going to .015. I say .0010-.0020 will be the most this will go. Companies with an o/s of 9 billion rarely, if ever, break the .002 bearier unless they are either 1. Run hard by a huge group, 2. Come out with HUGE earnings and amazing profit, or 3. Reverse split. Guthrie has already eliminated the r/s threat so better hope for a group run or big revs/profit (and i mean HUGE) to get it over .0020-30. The market cap of this co at .015 would be $135 million, I agree right now this is oversold, but we have no clue of the value. However, $135 mill is a little more than I think any of us would value this co. Granted at $1.8 mill market cap right now, thats prob a bit low, but still until we have hard numbers no one knows. Guthrie needs to throw out hard numbers, period.
 

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Posted by ya ya on :
 
I agree Jmoove - With 9 billion o/s its going to take some huge news or a big group play to make this move.
 

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Posted by JIF on :
 
So, you're saying .001-.002.

Based on that, a good exit strategy would be to sell half at .0014 and the other half at .0019?

How does that sit in your stomach?
 

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Posted by JIF on :
 
BTW: Ameritrade is telling me that CWFG is currently trading at .0002

Day range: .0002-.0003
Current Volume: 33,623,333
 

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Posted by ya ya on :
 
I would be real happy to get rid of this *.001 but in my opinion i would be shocked if this moved passed .0004
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
ya ya, WOW, what a turn around - just Friday you were predicting doom and gloom. .0004 would be fine with me...my pps is now at .00033!

Glad to see optimism coming from you!!
 

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Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
I think we need to call Guthrie and leave some messages now about posting some real numbers so that a true evaluation can be given on our stock? Any thoughts to this?
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
Go for it SHO -
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
ya ya - man I knew it was too good to be true! Someone else MUST have used your login earlier...Oh Well, at least we know some things will never change...LOL
 

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Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Big Red I wanted to make sure that I had told ya thanks for the B'card the other day man!! Had a great weekend!!
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
GLAD TO HEAR IT!! - Mines coming up in a couple of weeks. Maybe Guthrie can help me out a little , whatcha thinnk about that?! He saying by October 31 for news. My Bday is the 21st. Maybe he would like to help an old man out...LOL
 

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Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Maybe he might invite you and ya ya down to sip drinks on the beach that ya ya was talking about hahaha. We'll do just fine. I hope it is a good B'day boost for ya.

Hey did I hear you right that he said news would be coming by OCT. 31st?
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
I thought in one of the old CWMF posts, someone said that he had said something about news on contracts, on or before the 31st of October, sometime about the middle of last week.
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
can someone throw down the L2's and whos on the bid
 

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Posted by ya ya on :
 
B/A .0001 - .0002
 

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Posted by TalonSin on :
 
Did they move off the pinks as well? Ameritrade is showing them as OTCBB now.
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
you know YAYAYAYAYAYAYA -- Im usually a great guy to get along with but 1 thing I truly despise is STUPID --- I know what the bid & ask are, I think scottrade showes that -- if you read and realy read my post carefully you will see I asked for L's with whos on the bid
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
ROFL LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fairly - remember, his momma still loves him, despite everything....
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
rosses ???? what is that
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
rosses - We dont need no stinkin rosses.....LOL
 

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Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
I just spoke with Guthrie on the phone and he stated that he is working with the transfer agent at the present to get all of the work completed from this split. He said that he is hoping to have it when he gets back to his office from his business travel down south. He said that from that point he would be able to give hard figures of company worth so that it could be evaluated and have the price reflect the evaluation.
 

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Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
I don't know this guy from past companies but I am going to stick this out, because I still think that there is money to be made here. Ya ya you could be right, it could go to .00 but that is the stock market. IMHO I don't think that it will happen in this case. I am inclined like Jmoove that this will most likely go somewhere between .001 and .002.
 

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Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Can we please stick with stock chat and DD on this thread.
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
Hey YAYA stop making things up PLEASE

Hey Showme --- what kind of timeframe did he say we are looking at ??
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
good idea Doc
 

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Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Anyone with scottrade have this in thier account yet?
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
I talk to scottrade and they gave me the BS excuse that they havnt rcvd the shares from the T/A yet -- sd should get by tomorrow -- they still have my sheres with CWMF# ?
 

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Posted by Polarbear17 on :
 
I'm with choice trade and it's howing up in my account . I' hanging till news and expect that we could see .001 0r .002 .
 

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Posted by pensandoenti67 on :
 
Check this thread out. Look at the money you could have made.

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/8/t/016483.html
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
Hey great picks pen -- soon as I can make some cash on CWFG I will look into your picks
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 

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Originally posted by Polarbear17:
I'm with choice trade and it's howing up in my account . I' hanging till news and expect that we could see .001 0r .002 .

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You know every has been saying .001 to .002 -- I dont understand why nobody is looking for more ???

this stock hit .0009 just on a FEMA PR -- dont anybody think this will rise higher when we get contracts ????
 

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Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Fairly - The way he sounded on the phone it could be within a week or two. I wouldn't think it would happen though until near the end of the month. I don't understand all of the things that go with getting the numbers together. I hope that it could happen soon though. I think that Guthrie will want to wait for the evaluation so that he can include the news that came out this morning on the purchase they are doing.
 

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Posted by podcaster on :
 
as a "C" stock today's price action may be one of the A-G casualties... a carryover from the friday assault by mm's.... longer thread on this at
allstocks non stock talk
had it on the micropennies thread where it could be seen but "somebody" moved it- go figure LOL

A-G stocks
avg pps 0.2860
avg pps gain or loss -0.00229 (a net loss)
avg $ vol $1,414,622

H-Z stocks
avg pps 0.3126
avg pps gain or loss +0.02070 (a net gain)
avg $ vol $4,275,541
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
Well, certainly not a great day, but all in all, I think with the F/S that it helds it's own. If Guthrie would give out some positive news on the progress of getting signed contracts, I think we will be ok. See everyone tomorrow! :-)
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 
OK, so I just saw the following "News" from CWFG. Very little noteworthy information here, aside from the purchase of the mortgage loans from Miami...

I guess this is better than nothing, but I'd still love to get some contract news!

-Slip

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ST. PETERSBURG, Fla.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 3, 2005--Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc. (PINK SHEETS: CWMF - News) announces that the company has received notification from the NASDAQ that the new symbol for Commonwealth American Financial Group is CWFG. The new symbol will become effective 10/3/2005 as of the commencement of trading. Commonwealth American Financial Group has also successfully negotiated to purchase a package of residential mortgage loans from Miami, Fla. The mortgages are short term and yield a 15% return to Commonwealth American Financial Group.

....

Mr. Guthrie, President, said, "As well as investing in the Hurricane affected areas in Texas and Louisiana, we must still capitalize on the returns that can be made in the flourishing Florida real estate market that still exists."
 

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Posted by evokiosk on :
 
too funny,... my etrade stock symbol for CWMF is currently "20268P109" in the transition to the new name. didn't receive my additional shares yet either. i'm just hope this stock gets to 27.00 per share. j/k
 

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Posted by jack85 on :
 
good morning all!

I was unable to get to a computer yesterday so i don't know what happened. my ST acct is doing the same as Fairly_new; i don't have the shares at the moment and the symbol reads CWMF#.

P.S. did anything exciting happen? im just a little curious
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 
Nothing happened. Closed at 0.0002
 

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Posted by ya ya on :
 
Jack - it takes a couple of days for your ST acct.to update the split and as of yesterday nothing happening with this B/A .0001 - .0002 currently at .0002
 

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Posted by jack85 on :
 
thanks slippery
thanks ya ya
 

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Posted by johnny14511 on :
 
has anybody gotten their split stocks


can u see them in your positions

did they go trough yet
 

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Posted by Jmoove on :
 
tasl off the ask, on the bid now

1x2
6x1
 

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Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Jmoove, have you noticed if the MMS have cutback on manipulating since the split or will it take longer for this to play out?
 

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Posted by Jmoove on :
 
no idea yet, we need to see some 100+ mill days to get an idea, another things is that the mms that are currently not online SEAB, ETRD, JEFF, CARR should be online tomorrow morn, so we'll have a full lineup again, so hopefully we'll see some good vol
 

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Posted by johnny14511 on :
 
CHECK FOR YOUR SPLIT I GOT MINE!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Posted by reidler88 on :
 
does anyone know the float for this stock,,
sorry if i missed it,,
but just curious what it is at this current point?>???
 

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Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
If you are using Scottrade you should have your shares now and the symbol should be changed. I have received my shares and the symbol is showing differently today.
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
I gotsa my shares
 

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Posted by so uh wheres ma money on :
 
Anyone else w/ ameritrade? When we getting our shares...
 

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Posted by Jmoove on :
 
same as etrade, we get them tomorrow
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 
I'm with Ameritrade, and I got mine yesterday afternoon....
 

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Posted by reidler88 on :
 
i got mine yesterday
i got ameritrade
 

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Posted by so uh wheres ma money on :
 
the correct amount of shares with the correct ticker symbol?
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
I'm with Ameritrade, they don't have anything right yet!
 

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Posted by Rules on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Big Red 1:
I'm with Ameritrade, they don't have anything right yet!

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quote:

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Originally posted by Rules:
Personally, I would like to see a buyout by a big company cause that would blow this stock through the roof.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Big Red 1:
I wonder why he is waiting for the end of the week to post the letter...unless he is waiting until he has the meeting with the MM's...Several years ago this happened (shorting) to a company called American Fire Retardant, but they only had a seasonal product for Christmas Tree Fire Retardant...

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And how did this Christmas story turn out? Let me guess, it went up in flames
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
Honestly, I don't remember - it was during the whole 9/11 thing, and I owned a travel agency at the time, was invested in a ton of high tech, and wound up losing EVERYTHING!! - Filed BK, lost myhome, and over 800k in the market. (thanks to my former broker), just now recovering, and starting over, The only things I had left from 9/11 was my wife, my kids, and a 26k IRS bill..
 

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Posted by Rules on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Big Red 1:
Honestly, I don't remember - it was during the whole 9/11 thing, and I owned a travel agency at the time, was invested in a ton of high tech, and wound up losing EVERYTHING!! - Filed BK, lost myhome, and over 800k in the market. (thanks to my former broker), just now recovering, and starting over, The only things I had left from 9/11 was my wife, my kids, and a 26k IRS bill..

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Family is everything, money is nothing. Though you went through tough times, the outcome was that life is a learning lesson and that family is what brings true happiness.
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
No doubt, I know a lot of other T/A owners who lost more than me. A couple of them committed suicide. and many wound up divorced. I know that my faith brought me through this mess, and now that I am doing my own thing with the market, investing just a little to get started, making small mistakes, and doing a lot of reading, and observing, learnign how to do DD, and a lot of reading, I will be fine. A lot fo good people have taught me a lot in a short period of time, and (I'm not preaching her), but God is faithful and just, and me and my family are going to be so much better off than we were before!!
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
Amen Rules
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
Someone tell me that we are slow due to extended lunch from Monday.....someone....anyone....
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 
Yep, everyone is still at lunch from Monday...
 

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Posted by matto on :
 
how can anyone in thier right mind sell for .0001
can someone explain that logic.
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 
Good news on the phone call, Fairly. I guess we'll have to wait and see if he can get his back off the wall and fight out of this one...

-Slip
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
Phew! - thanks slip, I thought I was dillusional or something...LOL - I need a job like they have man!!
 

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Posted by johnny14511 on :
 
has anybody owned this stock in the past
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 
Anyone have the current L2's? I don't like it when the last sale goes to 0.0001, and I can't see the ask bid... Makes my finger twitchy...

HA!
 

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Posted by Jmoove on :
 
1x2
6x1
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 
Thanks, JMoove...
 

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Posted by matto on :
 
i have so many shares when it goes down it looks like i have lost a fortune.oh i have!
 

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Posted by Jmoove on :
 
even though my shares havent shown up, im looking at gaining or losing on each tick about what i paid for my first car in highschool :-)
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
I'm sitting on 9MM now after the split.....when Ameritrade adjusted for cost, they show me with less than what I actually have in it. So, on paper, it doesn't look so bad....LOL - That's ok, I still believe! -

Yes Virginia, there really is a Santa Claus, and the Great Pumpkin is coming to my pumpkin patch this year for sure. I learned my lesson, last year I said...."if"...LOL
 

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Posted by matto on :
 
it hurts! but,it really cant get much lower so what we need here is an uptic... or alot of up tics
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
Come on - .0004 - PLEASE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 

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Posted by matto on :
 
25 mil.shares waiting for .01 i will sit here and sweat untill it hits.
 

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Posted by Jmoove on :
 
i feel fine about this, i could get out with a nice profit if the bid ever gets to three, which shouldnt be difficult IF GUTHRIE EVER PUTS THOSE NUMBERS OUT! lol sounds like he will by end of week, im going to try calling after work
 

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Posted by 37Black on :
 
big red,
What a story, God bless for your faith and coming through in one piece. Talk about strength, thanks for the inspiration.
My etrade is still screwed up, still doesn't show the shares. Etrade sucks..lol...

Mimi
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 
Wonder what happened to all our volume! Those MM's must have taken it elsewhere.
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
they cant short the shares ...... yet lol
 

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Posted by ya ya on :
 
down to .0001
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
ya ya - if nothing else, your powers of observation are amazing....will you please go AWAY!
 

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Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
If you pay him attention it just makes him worse Big Red!!
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 
Hey fish,

BigRed just lost his cool for a minute. I think he's back now. When you start counting red sheep at night, that can happen.

I'd sure like to see us finish the day at 2 rather than 1! There's just something about that 50% loss in one day that gives me the jitters!

Volume seems to have flat-lined. As a matter of fact, have there been any trades in the last 2 hours?

Anyone have the L2's?

-Slip
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
To everyone who has mentioned my replies to ya ya, please chalk it up to a bad couple of weeks, and I will not be commenting on anymore of his posts...Big Red 1
 

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Posted by Doctoall on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Big Red 1:
To everyone who has mentioned my replies to ya ya, please chalk it up to a bad couple of weeks, and I will not be commenting on anymore of his posts...Big Red 1

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Yep it's better to ignore those who would agitate
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
hey slip - I haven't seen any L2s, but according to Ameritrade streamer, the last trade was at 14:59:33.... about an hour ago....I think folks are waiting till Guthrie has something to say...
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
also slip - they show the last trade at 2...
 

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Posted by Lucas Brachish on :
 
I need a .0004 just to get out without getting whacked. With a .0005 I'll make a nice little profit. But I'm not greedy -- at this point I'll be happy with the 4. I've been stuck in the red on this for too long, and was really hoping the split would cause a positive correction, not this.... mess .. Tell me this is gonna pick up sooner than later....

Except for AMEP, which is also going down (but still green for me, for now), I'm bleeding red all over the screen, in every industry on every stock .... Half of my investments swung down in the doldrum months of August-September, wiping out a huge portion of my gains from the entire year, so the continued downward spiral of Octbober is really hurting the bottom line... Come on CWMF/CWFG!!!!! Ahh!

Who's got some good news?

!
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
I thought I'd try to shake 'em up a bit, just put a sell in for 9MM *.0004 - a third of the total volume for the day....LOL
 

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Posted by johnny14511 on :
 
i think gurthie is an *******
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 
Yep, thanks Big Red, I just saw that! Not that it matters much, I'm still in at 2, I just hate looking at that big red -50% for the day! HA!
 

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Posted by Lucas Brachish on :
 
Honestly I really kinda want to buy a bunch of this at 1 and/or 2, so I can make some real cash when it goes up. But seeing all this red has made me too nervous to dump more money into it. Maybe funds to spare, but at this point I've gotta start being extra careful.... Is anyone else thinking about trying to buy in while it's rock-bottom?
 

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Posted by Lucas Brachish on :
 
Nice.

I've placed over 4 million up for sale at a .0004 limit. Not gonna budge any lower.

quote:

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Originally posted by Big Red 1:
I thought I'd try to shake 'em up a bit, just put a sell in for 9MM *.0004 - a third of the total volume for the day....LOL

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
Well, Lucas, I will say this about that....If by some fluke, I could sell at .0004, then I would definately go back in at 2....I have no clear funds, but I might be tempted if I had some...I tinhk Guthrie is going to have some news by the end of the week, so in IMO, I think it's still a crap shoot. In at 1 or 2 isn't gonna cost much...GOOD LUCK!!
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
Whew back to .0002 lol
 

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Posted by ya ya on :
 
could go back to .0001 EOD.
 

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Posted by ya ya on :
 
I don't think we are going to see anything higher then .0003 with this.
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
I want to respond but I made a promise .0003 makes me even
 

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Posted by ya ya on :
 
I mentioned a pump and dump and the groups ran.
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
Still holding at 2......come on baby show me 4!!
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
Well, we closed at 2, could have been much worse...Tomorrow is another day, perhaps even 3!
Hope everyone has a GREAT EVENING!!
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
How can I go back in time and look at the PR's from CWMF ????

Iam trying to determine how they were trading between .05 and .08
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
It depends on your broker, and their charts, some will have historical charts. I know there has to be other resources as well, bnut I dont know of any. Also, FYI - back in May or June of this year, they were trading at .39/.40....
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
yeah I know but is spiraled down quite a bit -- and of course I would have to pinch myself and have everyone I know pinch me to wake up if this traded at .39 -- LOL haha

But I am trying to determin what was positive with this company (if anything) and expound on it -- you know take a proactive approach .. I be danged if this stock traded at .05 -- I as well as all others would be extrememly happy

 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
I personally think with great contract and if all the ducks line up than this stock could go up big time from here -- I mean I am not an expert but I like to optomistic --- And I do understand the business very well that Guthrie is in.. if within the next week or two PR's come out with news, #'s and time frame for earnings than WATCH OUT
 

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Posted by Desert Ed on :
 
I with you, Fairly New. This stock is going to see 10 cents a share in the very near future. You can quote me on that.
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
Yah that would be nice ED -- unless you know something I dont ...........
 

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Posted by Rules on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Desert Ed:
I with you, Fairly New. This stock is going to see 10 cents a share in the very near future. You can quote me on that.

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quote:

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Originally posted by dalton05:
Does anyone think there will be a PR this week

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Geez I would hope so
 

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Posted by dalton05 on :
 
Fairly_New - Thanks for the DD legwork you are doing on this,We will all benefit from your hard work.
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
I am going to try and contact the TV station in Miami they claim to have done up to a million dollar contract with back in July for improvements (renovations) ---- may take a little while
 

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Posted by evokiosk on :
 
got my shares and also got charged $20 buy eTrade,... THANKS ETRADE! :\
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
No charge so far ----- have scottrade
 

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Posted by dalton05 on :
 
no charge for me i also have Scottrade.
 

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Posted by evokiosk on :
 
we need to get away from .0002, i'm ready to get out and push! I think some good solid PR and figures would do the trick. I'm kinda worried about people not wanting to buy because they are watching out for hurricane scams and won't bother to research this stock. any thoughts?
 

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Posted by Goldbar on :
 
this will go somewhere, it´s impossible for it to not do so.
the math feud you had was pretty nice
looks like everyone got their free share though so alls well!
 

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Posted by Jmoove on :
 
got my shares, going to buy some more end of week for an even 20 mill :-)
 

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Posted by Andreas on :
 
.0001 !!

Time to buy back in ???
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
you wont get em bought at .0001 IMO
 

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Posted by Rules on :
 
We are at bottom so no one can use the doom and gloom approach to shake us. We are now sitting at "the skies the limit." This stock is going to fly once again and if the PRs are done right, we should be able to force the naked shorting to cover like once before and then continue growth.
 

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Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
I agree Rules. Right now is just to sit tight and wait for the substatial PR's to come with figures and solid contracts. If you have bought in you are at the low, now we just wait for a run up. Don't let anyone tell you it can't or won't because it went from .0002 to .0009 the other day. It will do it again. With 9 bil stocks and in my view this company worth a couple of mil right now, If the company shows a worth of just 5 mil the proper eval price should be around .00045 to .0005. That means that with any other news coming through, like contracts or land development you should a nice move towards .001 to .002. My thought is that if Guthrie gets the solid numbers out on company figures we should see .0005 or higher by the end of that day and then when PR's come out we should go higher. The great thing is that once the solid numbers come out we a foundation to price evaluate from when contracts do come in. Agree or disagree let me know. Again that is just my opinion.
 

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Posted by JIF on :
 
Afternoon gents!

Anybody using Ameritrade. Mine still shows the wrong # of shares and I don't think I can even trade.

Well, glad to see us at .0002. I agree- the sky is the limit, and without the naked short selling, we should see a steady pps increase for about 2 weeks (this should be the correction peiod bringing the stock to it's market efficiency point or beta).
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
Sho - I think you are right on the money. I am holding for now, since I couldn't get 4 yesterday. Something is going on, the volume is crazy low, and I think the MM's may be sensing some trouble once Guthrie meets with them at the end of the week. I'm no lawyer,and haven't heard / seen anything, but maybe Guthrie caught some selling ghost shares. Man, wouldn't that be great to have them once and for all exposed for that!! No doubt, solid numbers, and great PR would help. If we all sit tight, and ride this out, I agree with your price predictions. Earlier in this post someone said .10, now I don't know if I'd go that far, but who knows, they were at .39/.40 earlier this summer, so who knows? I'm just gonna hang on till I see soem solid numbers, and PR
 

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Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Big Red I here ya. I personally don't see .10 with these guys, but I could see .005 to .01 with some serious land development and contracts.
 

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Posted by dalton05 on :
 
If this company shows some promise which i think they will the share price will take care of itself and we will all be laughing about this saying to each other "Remember the day when this was priced at .0002"
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
I have one of my Gurus doing some info digging on Guthrie and his companies
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
Let us know what you find out PLEASE
 

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Posted by Doctoall on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Fairly_New:
I have one of my Gurus doing some info digging on Guthrie and his companies

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Who is that Ya Ya j/k
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
since it's you and not him, I'll comment - now Doc - don't get him stirred up....LOL
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
LOL -- I shouldnt say it but hes been silent
 

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Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Hey everyone, I did some back tracking and found an old business partner of Guthrie. I don't know if it is the same guy, but I tracked down the guy and he is still located in florida so I left him a vm and em and asked him to give me some background on Guthrie and what his business abilities were. Hopefully everything will be answered and I will share it with you.
 

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Posted by Rules on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Fairly_New:
LOL -- I shouldnt say it but hes been silent

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quote:

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Originally posted by Rules:

quote:

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Originally posted by Fairly_New:
LOL -- I shouldnt say it but hes been silent

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That is because he is in gym class right now at Middle School.

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Rules just made my day...

But seriously, we all want YaYa to stop talking bad, so IMO i think all of us should stop talking bad about him. And then maybe it will all just stop.
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
so what are these sells that keep making it fall to .0001 ?????


Also can someone post the L2'S
 

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Posted by dalton05 on :
 
I don't have L2's but imo i think this will go up sooner then later and all who stays in will be rewarded.Sometimes these stocks have to be this low until it finds it footings.All it takes is one good pr and it could be off to the races.
 

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Posted by podcaster on :
 
i saw where somebody asked guthrie "what is the float?" did he ever answer? what is it?
 

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Posted by podcaster on :
 
so nobody knows the actual float? counting ghost shares?
 

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Posted by podcaster on :
 
c'mon, guys, this dude should at least give up the float when ya talk with him-- LOL-- it's IMPORTANT
 

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Posted by Big Red 1 on :
 
I think it was 6 Billion pre split, at least thats what I thought I read somewhere....
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
Guthrie # 786 246 1077 --- Go ahead POD, ask him yourself
 

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Posted by podcaster on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Big Red 1:
I think it was 6 Billion pre split, at least thats what I thought I read somewhere....

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quote:

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Originally posted by a4realguy:
I think were looking at a run soon..

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Geez I sure hope so
 

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Posted by podcaster on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Fairly_New:
Guthrie # 786 246 1077 --- Go ahead POD, ask him yourself

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thanks, fairlynew--- all i get is the T-mobile messaging center... oh, well, nice dd you guys have all been doing on this one... i know everybody cringes when i post--- but all i'm doing now is tracking real numbers-- let the jury decide--- anyway, somebody said the only way from here is up. so as long as dude keeps his promise about no r/s it should all be good... best luck to all
 

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Posted by 37Black on :
 
just got more for .0002, that cracks me up when my buy makes the price change...
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
glad you did Black == I was about to cry --- LOL
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
Hey POD -- keep trying -- it will eventually swith over to his phone -- my guess he is in a meeting trying to get our deals signed
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
Just wanted to say I LOVE ALL OF YOU HOLDING CWFG

LOL LOL

Peace,
JDH
 

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Posted by Doctoall on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Fairly_New:
Just wanted to say I LOVE ALL OF YOU HOLDING CWFG

LOL LOL

Peace,
JDH

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No problem holding, with no legs it's not going to run anywhere j/k
 

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Posted by johnny14511 on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Doctoall:

quote:

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Originally posted by Fairly_New:
Just wanted to say I LOVE ALL OF YOU HOLDING CWFG

LOL LOL

Peace,
JDH

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No problem holding, with no legs it's not going to run anywhere j/k

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SERIOUSLY HOLD THIS WHEN IT GOES UP TO .0008 YOU WILL HAVE 300% YOUR MONEY JUST WAIT

THIS GUY GURTHIE IS MAKING US GET PIZZED OFF
 

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Posted by OO7 on :
 
I feel the love, I'll hold until the cows come home!!!! .0009 or bust!
 

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Posted by Polarbear17 on :
 
Bought more yesterday at .ooo2 making a total of 500,000 at an average of .00024 .Hope we see green soon ! I have know doubt we will.
 

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Posted by JIF on :
 
Dun dun dun. How low can you go!

Hahaha. I'm right here with you guys. Waiting to see the correction happen. I'm hoping for .0009 within 10 trading days.

That would be juuuuusssst fine.
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
almost 14 mil today -- how can this thing be at .0001 still -- I cant believe these are sells
 

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Posted by Danny K on :
 
600K just went through .0002 and bumped the PPS to 2, lol...... I would love to see 4 or 5
 

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Posted by jack85 on :
 
correct me if im worng, but Fairly said that guthrie is to meet with two MM firms this week. is that today, tomorrow, or has it already happened?
 

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Posted by Lucas Brachish on :
 
Has anyone here been able to buy at .0001 ???

I need to sell at .0004 to avoid loss, but if this thing is going to keep flipping from 1 to 2 then I'm thinking I might be best off selling everything at 2 and then buying back in when it drops to 1 again, and then hoping to sell at a 3 for a profit.... or, if I hold my current shares, then at least averaging down by buying at 1. Averaging down by buying at 2 would be fine by me except that everytime this thing drops to 1 it makes my brain explode, so I'd prefer not to average down only to end up with more losses....
 

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Posted by Danny K on :
 
I dont think anyone has talked to guthrie after that, or at least in regards to that meet? Maybe fairly can give him a ring tomorrow or monday and see whats up?
 

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Posted by Andreas on :
 
No - nothing on .0001 yet. I have a big order in, but might not get it again today.

Well - patience and consistency makes you successful
 

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Posted by Big Green 1 on :
 
Lucas - nothing is going through at 1 except sales....Buys at 2
 

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Posted by Lucas Brachish on :
 
Well, that's good news, at least. Thanks for the update, guys.

Who's selling at 1, anyway?! Damn ...

quote:

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Originally posted by Big Green 1:
Lucas - nothing is going through at 1 except sales....Buys at 2

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quote:

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Originally posted by JIF:
No way - I think FEMA has to abide by gov. regulations around procurement.

That means they have to assess the needs, then draft an RFP (request for proposal) and then let all the companies submit proposals. This ensures a fare bid scenario.

That takes time.

The only exception is like Halliburton who gets in there because they're the only ones who can do it and it has to be done immediately.....

Maybe that applies here, since it is a disaster and it easily qualifies as an emergency situation.

However, the smaller contracts and clean up work.....most probably long term projects requiring RFP process.

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I was meaning at first they seemed like it wasnt bidded properly, now it will cost time to go back and do it the right and fair way. I didnt mean they were still doing it wronge, excuse my lack of communication.
 

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Posted by PhoenixStockMaster on :
 
Holding 4.5 mil shares and hoping for .0008
 

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Posted by Lucas Brachish on :
 
Before this company became CWFG, there was talk that the split might make everyone a profit even if this company didn't score a FEMA project. That didn't happen -- instead the split left most of us a little lower. So, now let's say CWFG doesn't land a FEMA contract.... What are the chances we'll ever see a run or even an upwardly mobile crawl at that point? Does CWFG have anything else big or even medium-sized in the works that anyone here knows of, other than these small Florida projects?

With a FEMA contract we could easily be talking a rise to .001 or above, depending on the contract. So the risk vs. reward is pretty goo for anyone buying in at .0001 or .0002. For those of us that bought before the split at what is now a .0003 or .0004, the bet isn't as safe anymore.

But most of us could make a small profit or break-even with a move to around .0004 or above, correct? So how long before you think we might see even a small rise like that? Again, in the worst-case short-term scenario -- no FEMA contracts or related work -- is this stock still worth our time?
 

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Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Its on sale
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by fishfarmer:
Its on sale

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Of course it is! But you get what you pay for!

I'd wait to see a good, solid PR on contracts before I dive into this one. You might miss a few ticks, but at least you'll know this Damian Guthrie guy is actually doing something with his business!

-Slip
 

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Posted by Mr Bill on :
 
If you bought pre FS at .0003 it would be like buying now at .0002 Lucas
 

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Posted by Jmoove on :
 
hey guys, just checking in, sittin on almost 20mill here just waiting :-)
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
come on guys BUY BUY BUY
 

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Posted by Persia on :
 
Guthrie, please Guthrie, some news.
It's my girlfriend's birthday next Thursday and she wants a new car...;(
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 
Hey there Jmoove. Good to hear from you. Really nothing to discuss until we get news! Just sittin' and waitin...
 

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Posted by Danny K on :
 
me too, sittin and waiting... does anyone have thier shares up for sale? I remember one person has a chunk forsale at .0004, anyone eles. also, if anyone cant buy shares i would be happy to sell you 7.3M *.0004
GLTA, ill be back when news comes next week i hope
 

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Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
I don't have any up for sale right now Danny I'm just waiting for news first and see where it goes from there.
 

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Posted by JIF on :
 
I'm holding strong until at least .0008. Then, no telling what I might do.

I might also buy more at .0001 if I can.
 

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Posted by Lucas Brachish on :
 
Danny K, etc.... I've averaged down enough that I'll more or less break even with a .0003. So I've got a GTC limit order open to sell around 4.5 million at 3. I'd originally hoped for a sale at .0006 or .0007 post-split (working on the idea that we'd get some good contract news as well), but that is looking riskier by the moment. Still very possible, but risky.

So then I had the order set at 4 for a while, but the lack of movement is shaking me down. If anyone cares to convince me otherwise, and thinks I'd better serve the stock and everyone here by holding at 4 or 5, I'm open to suggestions. Otherwise, even selling at a 3 right now is impossible, but if I can do it and it dips, I might buy back in (I've had an order in to buy at .0001 all week but never got a nibble).
 

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Posted by Desert Ed on :
 
I'm not going to sell until we see 10 cents a share!! And, I think we'll see that before the end of the year. Someone HAS to do the work along the gulf coast and, unless you've been there to see it (I have friends that just returned and said TV has not begun to show the destruction) for yourself, you cannot comprehend the trememdous damage. And, all the contracts are going out for bid. I'm holding!
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
I as well am holding firm like hands on a chickens neck
 

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Posted by Doctoall on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Fairly_New:
I as well am holding firm like hands on a chickens neck

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That's kewl I though you were going to say monkey
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
Well I thought about it but ........ HEHEHEHE
Oh by the way did anyone else catch this ???

Price *Change *% Change Bid [tick] Ask B/A Size Open Volume
0.0002 0.00 0% 0.0001 [-] 0.0003 5000 x 5000 0.0002 7,548,950


.0003 for the ask ????
 

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Posted by johnny14511 on :
 
you reaaly think to hold

i have alot of stock 34000000
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
Damn dude you got 34 MIL ---- thats F'N Awesome well consider this -- first I dont know how many free shares you got on the split but lets assume you bought 25 MIL shares at avg of .0003 -- thats $7500 --- well I strongly believe there is going to be something coming (although I do admit I am upset about no PR today & I let Guthrie know it on a voice mail message) But thats beside the point now -- so lets say it only goes back to .001 like it did with the FEMA PR -- 34 MIL X .001 = 34K ---- I personaly think with the righ stuff this is much larger than .001 IMHO of course ---- I WILL be staying on his eloquint Australian ASS --- LOL
 

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Posted by johnny14511 on :
 
i bought 25000000 for .0005 $ 12000
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
Dont wory MAN --- ditto mt last post no matter what -- by the way another $1000 = 5 MIL shares avg down your BOUGHT portion to .0004333 -- just a thought -- But damn you would then own almst 40 MIL shares -- thats HOT -- HANG TOUGH -- ALL OF YOU
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
by the way Johnny --- 40 mil shares / 13 K = .000325 -- only 1 tick to get your cash back
 

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Posted by johnny14511 on :
 
but when i sell i think its going to be hard itll take a while
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
But how hard will it be to sell if price it .002 -- just a thought .001 is 40K
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
Just left another message for Guthrie --- according to him a few days ago we were to get a PR announcing the FEMA and Control #'s and info as to the revenue expected from the mortgage contracts in Florida
 

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Posted by johnny14511 on :
 
yeah ill hold stong

thnx

your going to hold on hard too right
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
like when I was 13 ........ hehehe
 

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Posted by johnny14511 on :
 
alot of people will sell when its goes up 1 tick
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
I also think alot will buy too
 

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Posted by johnny14511 on :
 
hey did you notice that before the split the stock had alot more volume than it does now
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
Oh yeah --- now everyone just holding and waiting for news
 

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Posted by Desert Ed on :
 
My brother-in-law is in gulf coast area hauling trash and cleaning up debris as we speak. He hooked up with an insurance company and is working 12 hours a day with his small crew. He says there's enough work to last the 20 largest re-construction companies for several years. He says there's plenty to go around. And, finding people to do the work is very difficult. Devastation, he says, is incredible. If CWFG has any negotiation skills at all, they'll have millions in contracts very soon.
 

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Posted by Desert Ed on :
 
In case anyone would like to check them out, WHLI and PLNI are also working very hard to get some of the clean-up/reconstruction business in the gulf coast. Take a look for yourself and analyze possibilities.
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
Good evening everyone -- how was the weekend --- personally I cant wait till tomorrow -- off work and get to play the market

Now for the serious question ..... (hypothetical)

If guthrie came out with a PR saying that they secured $100 Mill in short term loans or $50 Mill -- what does that do to a PPS -- ( I know dumb question but a question none the less !)

I guess what I am trying to find out is that if this guy does what he says, I would assume there is a basis for a much higher support and much higher PPS JMHO

I would appreciate your replies

Peace,
JDH
 

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Posted by Polarbear17 on :
 
If guthrie comes out with 50 mill in contracts that would raise the PPS to .0025, 100 Mil would give you a PPS of .01. But thats just my guess.
 

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Posted by johnny14511 on :
 
how did you calculate that
 

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Posted by Desert Ed on :
 
Remember that PPS is determined by the market (us). The ACTUAL value is the total worth of the company divided by the number of shares outstanding. The market PPS is whatever we are willing to pay for each share, often more than the company is actually worth. Let's have some fun this week!
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
called and left another message for Guthrie -- has anyone else done the same ???
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
Any one else called ??
 

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Posted by podcaster on :
 
halfway decent buys today... just need to move up the bid to 0002 and it'll probably go some you think? hey- they can't EAT all those shares they sucked down last week- they gotta sell 'em
 

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Posted by Big Green 1 on :
 
I heard an awfully loud BURP!! coming from a MM office earlier today.....shook the windows in the neighborhood!!! HERES HOPING!!!
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
thats funny green --- I hae called Guthrie 4 times today still no answer
 

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Posted by johnny14511 on :
 
this company always has the bid low

sometimes 1 point and somethimes 2 points
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
I hvnt seen a 2 bid in since last monday
 

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Posted by Danny K on :
 
Big Red 1 is Big Green 1 now??? Sure wasnt off this stock, YET! lol

can someone call pizza hut, i want a news pizza, sprikled with mil$ contracts, with a large NOW to drink. thanks.
 

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Posted by Big Green 1 on :
 
Changed the name Danny to be more optomistic!!

It's working with a few others!!

YET is the word with this one!!
 

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Posted by JOELGA on :
 
CWFG, you just need to go up to .01 and get it over with!
 

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Posted by johnny14511 on :
 
the good thing is

its steady

so you know its a serious stock
 

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Posted by Lucas Brachish on :
 
But do I wimp out and keep my sell order in at 3, or raise it back to a split between 4 and 5? Oh, if only the facts would start rolling in... even rumours. I'd be happy with more rumours at this point.... But the chance to sell at 3 is looking better, anyway, so I'm not sweating too badly, although currently I've got nothing as red on my chart as CWFG .... it good to see those buys at 1 have dried up and 2 has gone scarce ... but when's the break-out, ladies and gents?
 

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Posted by OO7 on :
 
3 is wimpy, heck sooner or later this stock will get some news and "Boom .001"
I'll be waiting until then personally.
 

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Posted by Persia on :
 
Me too James.
 

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Posted by Jmoove on :
 
Commonwealth American Financial Group Announces FEMA Registration Number
Oct 11, 2005 9:20:00 AM
Copyright Business Wire 2005

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 11, 2005--

Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CWFG) announced today that its wholly owned subsidiary Hawkesbury River Funding of Texas, has received its Registration number from FEMA which allows the Hawkesbury River to bid on high value hurricane related construction projects.

The FEMA registration number is, CCR, 60-425-7027. Hawkesbury River will handle all bidding at its Dallas, Texas office. The company is preparing several bids and has many other projects in the pipeline under review, approval, and or legal contract issuance process.

Mr. Guthrie, President, said: "We are reviewing and processing as many bids and private requests as we can, and expect several projects to come to fruition over the next several weeks. We know that a large number of hurricane related companies are in need of short term financing to rebuild and reestablish their businesses. We aim to assist them with their financial liquidity problem so these parties can start the process of rebuilding."

The mission of Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc. is: To invest in land development projects either as developer, joint venture partner, or lender and create mezzanine-financing opportunities. The company will also grow by acquiring subsidiaries in related fields such as construction, real estate brokerage-appraisal-management, in Florida, Texas and Louisiana.

The Company has established a website, http://www.cwmf.net, and trades under the symbol (Pink Sheets:CWFG).

FORWARD LOOKING STATEMENTS: This information includes forward-looking statements made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 that involve risks and uncertainties including, but not limited to, the impact of competitive products, the ability to meet customer demand, the ability to manage growth, acquisitions of technology, equipment, or human resources, the effect of economic and business conditions, and the ability to attract and retain skilled personnel as related to the industry. The Company is not obligated to revise or update any forward-looking statements in order to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this issue.

Source: Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc.

----------------------------------------------
Commonwealth American Financial Group
St. Petersburg
Damian Guthrie
786-246-1077 or Fax 727-895-8735
 

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Posted by STOCKMOVER on :
 
Commonwealth American Financial Group Announces FEMA Registration Number
10/11/05
ST. PETERSBURG, Fla., Oct 11, 2005 (BUSINESS WIRE) --

Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CWFG) announced today that its wholly owned subsidiary Hawkesbury River Funding of Texas, has received its Registration number from FEMA which allows the Hawkesbury River to bid on high value hurricane related construction projects.

The FEMA registration number is, CCR, 60-425-7027. Hawkesbury River will handle all bidding at its Dallas, Texas office. The company is preparing several bids and has many other projects in the pipeline under review, approval, and or legal contract issuance process.

Mr. Guthrie, President, said: "We are reviewing and processing as many bids and private requests as we can, and expect several projects to come to fruition over the next several weeks. We know that a large number of hurricane related companies are in need of short term financing to rebuild and reestablish their businesses. We aim to assist them with their financial liquidity problem so these parties can start the process of rebuilding."

The mission of Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc. is: To invest in land development projects either as developer, joint venture partner, or lender and create mezzanine-financing opportunities. The company will also grow by acquiring subsidiaries in related fields such as construction, real estate brokerage-appraisal-management, in Florida, Texas and Louisiana.

The Company has established a website, http://www.cwmf.net, and trades under the symbol (Pink Sheets:CWFG).

FORWARD LOOKING STATEMENTS: This information includes forward-looking statements made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 that involve risks and uncertainties including, but not limited to, the impact of competitive products, the ability to meet customer demand, the ability to manage growth, acquisitions of technology, equipment, or human resources, the effect of economic and business conditions, and the ability to attract and retain skilled personnel as related to the industry. The Company is not obligated to revise or update any forward-looking statements in order to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this issue.

SOURCE: Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc.

Commonwealth American Financial Group, St. Petersburg Damian Guthrie, 786-246-1077 or Fax 727-895-8735
Copyright Business Wire 2005
 

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Posted by Persia on :
 
Mixed feelings but happy with the "high value".
 

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Posted by Jmoove on :
 
finally have proof of a real FEMA #, this should help in future PRs of contracts bc all proof will be right on the CCR website
 

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Posted by matto on :
 
WE WANT CONTRACTS!!WE WANT CONTRACTS!!WE WANT CONTRACTS!!WE WANT CONTRACTS!!
 

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Posted by fishfarmer on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by johnny14511:
the good thing is

its steady

so you know its a serious stock

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quote:

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Originally posted by Jmoove:
finally have proof of a real FEMA #, this should help in future PRs of contracts bc all proof will be right on the CCR website

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Amen, JMoove. I still have faith that Guthrie is legit, but he is probably overwhelmed.

That being said, I won't hesitate to take a profit!
 

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Posted by matto on :
 
Am I missing somthing or is there no vol. at all
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
I must have called him about 15 times between friday and yesterday
 

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Posted by dalton05 on :
 
I am a Dreamer so i think this will get a contract and on news this will take off.
 

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Posted by Jmoove on :
 
etrd just woke up, finally, and joined the bid

1x2
7x2 now
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
yeah about time -- funny what a PR will do
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
I was hoping it would draw out more volume
 

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Posted by matto on :
 
There is nothing hard about this pr so there is no reason to invest!

WE WANT CONTRACTS!!WE WANT CONTRACTS!!WE WANT CONTRACTS!!WE WANT CONTRACTS!!
 

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Posted by Jmoove on :
 
i didnt expect this PR (giving out actual FEMA #) to be a volume/pps gainer, it will only help in validating thier claims for contracts, which should spur more buyers at that time
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
yeah but heres the thing -- when a contract comes out this wont be at .0002 -- and you all know it
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
them son of a gun MM's -- get a little action and they drop it to .0001
 

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Posted by PhoenixStockMaster on :
 
We need news of actual contracts. That news will make this stock skyrocket. Let's put the pressure on for contracts. MAKE THEM PERFORM!
 

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Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Perform you birty dastards.
 

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Posted by JIF on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Lucas Brachish:
But do I wimp out and keep my sell order in at 3, or raise it back to a split between 4 and 5? Oh, if only the facts would start rolling in... even rumours. I'd be happy with more rumours at this point.... But the chance to sell at 3 is looking better, anyway, so I'm not sweating too badly, although currently I've got nothing as red on my chart as CWFG .... it good to see those buys at 1 have dried up and 2 has gone scarce ... but when's the break-out, ladies and gents?

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Split .0004 and .0008. That's what I'd do- if I wasn't me; holding long term.
 

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Posted by JIF on :
 
Guys, this stock has nowhere to go but up. Just hold tight. It's all going to be gooooood.

Just think, at .0004 you're already going to double your money!

It just doesn't get any better than that.

Show me other similar opportunities and I'll show you an CWFG wannabe.
 

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Posted by Big Green 1 on :
 
Filled another 1.5MM at 2

Looks VERY PROMISING NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Posted by JIF on :
 
LET'S GOOOOOO CWFG!!!!
 

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Posted by JIF on :
 
OK that's not funny - someone please buy 100bucks at .0003 so we can get this out of the dirt!>
 

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Posted by Lucas Brachish on :
 
ow.
 

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Posted by Big Green 1 on :
 
I wish people would stop selling at 1 !!!!!!!
 

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Posted by Andreas on :
 
Well, it would be nice to get some at .0001 as well
 

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Posted by Persia on :
 
Who's selling at 1 ?
That's just stupid.
 

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Posted by Jmoove on :
 
you all need to chill out, its 450k :-) just watch for news and not the pps
 

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Posted by JIF on :
 
you're right Jmooove.

If I had some more money, I'd put a buy in at .0001.

Unfortunately, I'm liking TNGO too much right now.
 

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Posted by jack85 on :
 
does anyone think the boycott is affecting this stock? i beleive A-G is for october.
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 
I don't think this "boycott" thing has a thing to do with it.

Fact is, this stock won't go anywhere without news. That's the only thing that will move it. Sure, it will dip to 0.0001, and it may even stay there for a while. But until Guthrie posts something worthwhile, the stock ain't going anywhere!
 

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Posted by Jmoove on :
 
the boycott is the absolute dumbest thing ive ever heard. Nothing more to be said there, lol
 

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Posted by JIF on :
 
Someone buy 100bucks at .0002.

Someone else at .0003.

Will this have any positive effect, or will it just slump again?
 

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Posted by Jmoove on :
 
cant buy at 3 when the ask is 2
 

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Posted by Big Green 1 on :
 
IMO - 300k - 5ook shares aren't going to have any impact on this. Ameritrade trades this on a limit basis, and if you put a limit of 3 on it, thats fine, but if the market is at 2, then that's what you will get it for.
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Jmoove:
the boycott is the absolute dumbest thing ive ever heard. Nothing more to be said there, lol

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Ditto.
 

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Posted by Big Green 1 on :
 
It would be nice if the boycott for A-G worked like the boycott against Disney in the early 90's. The Disney stock went UP over 57% in 3 months....LOL
 

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Posted by JIF on :
 
All I know is that every time this thing flirts with .0001, my portfolio is down about $1,500.

I really hate that.

I'm just glad we're closing at 2
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 
Thanks to whoever bought to raise the "last" to 2. Now, if you could do the same thing for AMEP, say, raise it to 0.090, I'd sure appreciate it!

HA!
 

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Posted by Big Green 1 on :
 
Hey JIF - Take a Valium man, relax, in the words of my gastoenterologist - this too shall pass...
 

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Posted by agrimac on :
 
(BSNS WIRE) Commonwealth American Financial Group Announces FEMA Registration
Number
Commonwealth American Financial Group Announces FEMA Registration Number

Business Editors

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 11, 2005--
Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc. (Pink
Sheets:CWFG) announced today that its wholly owned subsidiary
Hawkesbury River Funding of Texas, has received its Registration
number from FEMA which allows the Hawkesbury River to bid on high
value hurricane related construction projects.
The FEMA registration number is, CCR, 60-425-7027. Hawkesbury
River will handle all bidding at its Dallas, Texas office. The company
is preparing several bids and has many other projects in the pipeline
under review, approval, and or legal contract issuance process.
Mr. Guthrie, President, said: "We are reviewing and processing as
many bids and private requests as we can, and expect several projects
to come to fruition over the next several weeks. We know that a large
number of hurricane related companies are in need of short term
financing to rebuild and reestablish their businesses. We aim to
assist them with their financial liquidity problem so these parties
can start the process of rebuilding."
The mission of Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc. is: To
invest in land development projects either as developer, joint venture
partner, or lender and create mezzanine-financing opportunities. The
company will also grow by acquiring subsidiaries in related fields
such as construction, real estate brokerage-appraisal-management, in
Florida, Texas and Louisiana.
The Company has established a website, http://www.cwmf.net, and
trades under the symbol (Pink Sheets:CWFG).

FORWARD LOOKING STATEMENTS: This information includes
forward-looking statements made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions
of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 that involve
risks and uncertainties including, but not limited to, the impact of
competitive products, the ability to meet customer demand, the ability
to manage growth, acquisitions of technology, equipment, or human
resources, the effect of economic and business conditions, and the
ability to attract and retain skilled personnel as related to the
industry. The Company is not obligated to revise or update any
forward-looking statements in order to reflect events or circumstances
that may arise after the date of this issue.
 

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Posted by Big Green 1 on :
 
Hey - that's pretty good, ame posting 3 times in a single day....LOL - EVERYONE needs to HANG IN, it's gonna be fine
 

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Posted by Big Green 1 on :
 

 

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Posted by Lu01eg on :
 
Commonwealth American

Commonwealth American Financial Group, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CWFG) announced today that its wholly owned subsidiary Hawkesbury River Funding of Texas, has received its Registration number from FEMA which allows the Hawkesbury River to bid on high value hurricane related construction projects


http://www.bayoubuzz.com/articles.aspx?aid=5244
 

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Posted by whiteschmuck on :
 
good news... wish i woulda got some * 1
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
I like the ask at .0003 we will see what happens
 

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Posted by amos moses on :
 
Can someone help me out. What is this about a "Boycott"? I've been following this thread for quite a while, Maybe I missed a day. Fill me in. thanks
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 
Don't waste your time trying to figure it out.
 

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Posted by Lucas Brachish on :
 
whiteschmuck: I've had buys in all week at 1 and never managed to pick any up, even when it dips. I've also had a sell order in at 3 and another at 4 for days with no bites.... So it looks like 2 is the "real" number for now.

amos moses: see http://www.stockboycott.com/ , which says "The boycotters' aims seem to be the elimination of market makers and substitution of a computer based supply-demand system of quotations, elimination of naked short selling, elimination of extreme dilution by having greater transparency required of Pink Sheets' companies, and some sort of stronger enforcement against purveyors of pump and dump schemes. Whatever anyone might think of the boycott generally, so far one thing is certain: it is having its apparent intended effect, and it is also - as a kind of collateral effect - creating entry opportunities." More details and tracking stats are available at the site.

***

I'm gonna be agitated until I sell my shares at 3 and get out of this thing; and I'm gonna be angry when I sell at 3 and it jumps to 9. Ahhhh! Wish I had more leeway with my funds to gamble with this ... somebody make it move!

I wonder if there's any chance in Sam Hell that the boycott really is holding this down at all, and I should just rest until November.... but it seems more likely that it's the lack of contracts and the recent split/dilution that is keeping it down on the ground like a dying horse ... mmmmmmmmm... either way, November could be good... I'm such a chicken though, when I've got this many stocks getting hit at once...

***

END OF RANT (my apologies).

[ October 11, 2005, 22:42: Message edited by: Lucas Brachish ]
 

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Posted by JOELGA on :
 
Well, the good news is that we can only go up from here guys!
 

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Posted by Big Green 1 on :
 
Lucas - The "boycott" has about as much impact on any stock as walking under a ladder, stepping on a broken mirror, and having a black cat cross your path in front of you....LOL
 

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Posted by Mack on :
 
any one getting it * .0001
 

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Posted by Big Green 1 on :
 
ONLY on sells!!
 

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Posted by Rules on :
 
Yes,we finally hit and ended at .0001!!!! Whew, now we can stop worrying about that and now wait for it to move up.
 

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Posted by matto on :
 
Boy do we need a contract.My 5,000 is not making me any money and i hate that.way to idle here. We will have a happy holloween and we will get a bag full of green treats.
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 
I hope you're right, matto. If we get contract news, it should bump the stock price a bit, but I don't look to make tons of money on this one. I just don't trust the CEO.

That being said, if he gives me the oportunity, I'll take the money, and give him back his stock!
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Rules:
Yes,we finally hit and ended at .0001!!!! Whew, now we can stop worrying about that and now wait for it to move up.

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quote:

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Originally posted by JIF:
Well, he's alive, anyway.

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Guess so!
 

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Posted by dalton05 on :
 
It would sure be nice to have this stock run like OXFV is running today.
 

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Posted by JIF on :
 
Maybe a little move! Up to 2 now.
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 
Well. It's a start. I guess.
 

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Posted by PhoenixStockMaster on :
 
Hopefully this will move soon.
 

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Posted by Big Green 1 on :
 
Somethings up maybe - a lot more volume today than in the past several days....I cancelled my sell at 3 for now....I haven't heard anything...No news out today, maybe MM's know something the rest of us don't....
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 
I noticed that too, BG. 13.5 million shares on no news? Could be something...

Anyone have a list of MM's on this one?
 

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Posted by dalton05 on :
 
ask just went to .0003 - lets pray.
 

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Posted by dalton05 on :
 
a nice eod run would be good even if it went to .0003
 

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Posted by Big Green 1 on :
 
Where do you see 3, Ameritrade ticker still shows 2 !!!!!
 

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Posted by dalton05 on :
 
BG1 - Scottrade .0003 on the ask
 

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Posted by Big Green 1 on :
 
OMG - could we be seeing something REAL for a change - I just saw the 3 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 
3! There's the trend I've been waiting for! Let's go!
 

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Posted by dalton05 on :
 
a nice eod run would be good even if it went to .0003
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 
This is goofy. No news. The only thing I can think of is that people view this at 0.0001 for a few days, and decide to take a gamble...
 

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Posted by prefect on :
 
911?

What's the emergency ? A sinking ship?

OR...

Will I be able to buy a new 911 with the gains from this stock?

Hmmmm...
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 
I wouldn't get too excited just yet...
 

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Posted by Big Green 1 on :
 
Come on guys - PUSH this thing - I need a vacation REALLY BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Posted by dalton05 on :
 
every dog has its day - maybe its getting ready for a friday run.
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
OMG -- .0003 -- bid still at 1 and ask is still at 2
 

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Posted by JIF on :
 
HERE WE GO!!!!!!!
 

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Posted by dalton05 on :
 
ask did go back to .0002.oh well i was just dreaming about that nice F-250 fully loaded.
 

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Posted by Big Green 1 on :
 
Last is .0001 come on baby push!!!
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 
I still think it's going to take some solid news to move this thing significantly.

Can you imagine all the people that have sell limit orders in at 3? As we saw, as soon as this touches 3, it will come right back down...
 

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Posted by JIF on :
 
GREEEEEAT.

WHAT THE HECK!!!

I'm buying more at .0001 if it takes.
 

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Posted by dalton05 on :
 
back to .0001 oh well
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 
yeah, just a teaser...
 

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Posted by Polarbear17 on :
 
This is going no were till we get some news about Contracts and revenue projections. Thank god I'm in with 500k at .00024 average .I need to see some green to build my tradeing acct.
 

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Posted by Rules on :
 
The MM's are only playing smoke and mirrors as they are short on this stock. They now need it to go up so they can short it again.
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 
Interesting find from another board:

Check out: http://pinksheetshells.com/

Then check out: http://www.cwmf.net/

Notice anything interesting about the two pages?

Hint: Check out the phone numbers and email address.
 

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Posted by Big Green 1 on :
 
WTH!?!?!?!?!?!

Have we been flim flammed - or - is someone trying to discredit Guthrie maybe?

Are you going to call Guthrie tomorrow Slip?
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 
I doubt it.

Basically he is selling the "shell" of former companies traded on the pink sheets. Rather than form a company, and go through the process of getting listed on the pink sheets, the "new company" buys out an old company that is currently listed on the pink sheets.

This is why you see Guthrie's name tagged on so many different companies. He "buys" out companies for pennies on the dollar, just for their pink sheet listings.

Is it illegal? Not really.

However, a company traded on the pink sheets is pretty much worthless without trading volume.

So, if there is no "real" Commonwealth American Financial Group (CWFG) business, per se, it could be that Guthrie is trying to maintain trading volume in his company until he can "sell" (or merger in tech speak) his company as a shell. The fact that there IS trading volume makes his shell worth more money.

Notice how most of his "company" we pages all look the same? Notice how many he is involved with?

This is just speculation, however, but it COULD be what he is doing.
I can tell you that I won't be around too long to find out.

This link helps explain it better...

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0DTI/is_12_32/ai_n8574400

No, I won't call him tomorrow. He's probably reading these boards. Heck, he could be any one of you trying to pump his own company for volume!

HA! I love a conspiracy!

-Slip
 

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Posted by Desert Ed on :
 
Get ready fellows ... the race is about to begin.
 

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Posted by Rules on :
 
I don't care what he does, just get this ship above water.
 

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Posted by Big Green 1 on :
 
Wow - I thought I had learned some things in the past couple of months....There is a lot more to his "shell" thing for me to find out about...Is there a source available that has a list of these "shell" companies, or a way to find out if a particular company is a "shell"

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
man,
seeing that link really sucks

So... slip if tere is volume on CWFG and a company buys his out and it is more valuable is that not a good thing.... I dont know, thats why I am asking
 

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Posted by Superbee383 on :
 
It's also possible that someone just made that little 1 page website? How hard would it be to do that? It's just a one page advertisement. Not hard at all in my opinion. Could be someone is trying to discredit CWFG? Just throwing out an idea here.
 

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Posted by Fairly_New on :
 
I dont know how hard it is to get a FEMA #..... but I'm sure they were giving them out like train tickets at the subway during the crisis that took place.... also I may be completly wrong and maybe CWFG had to go thru some backround investigation .... or showing some sort of business credentials ..... I would like to hear other opinions on the FEMA approval
 

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Posted by Jmoove on :
 
its part of Guthrie's loan business, adopted after he bought a shell to become listed
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 
I agree with Jmoove. I still believe he's got a legit company in CWFG.

And the pinksheetshells.com web address is registered to Guthrie. Just go to checkdomain.com and type in the address. Look at the date of registration, too.

Here's the thing, guys. Let's say that, worst case scenario, the CWFG company IS a shell he's trying to sell.

As I mentioned, for the shell to be worth anything, it has to have volume. So Guthrie would have to keep pumping PR's into this thing to keep the volume moving. If he doesn't do anything to move the price, the stock flat lines at 0.0001, and no one buys, and no one sells. Except for the MM's of course. And his shell becomes worthless because he can't show a potential buyer that it has volume.

So he's got to keep trying to move the price.

On the other hand, if he has 1 million in financing to buy and sell shells, and 100 million to buy bulletin board shells, he is probably in the loan business.

So I wouldn't worry TOO much about this, but it just goes to show you what a little sleuthing can do!

Good luck, and keep your head up!

(You too, Mr. Guthrie, I know you're watching!)

HA!

-Slip
 

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Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Roll dem bones!!!!!
 

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Posted by rfggator on :
 
ok, guys and gals, i have been dating this girl thats is in banking, she knows alot of folks with company, and has stated that the company is secure, and they have been around for years. as far as the web page, that does not look like any buildings here in st pete. hmm go figure.
like rules said, lets just get the water out of the boat, and get it above water....
 

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Posted by Slippery Wing on :
 
Amen! Thanks gator!
 

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Posted by Lucas Brachish on :
 
Yeah, you'd think that even if this was a shell scam, someone would be pumping this up to 4 or 5 right about now, just so they could make some cash on the dump.... Unless this is being kept down in preparation for a big pump... in which case, if we hold strong, we'll be okay.

If we're talking worst case scenarios and the FEMA contracts never happen, then the real question becomes: When will this stock get pumped and why are they waiting so long? This pink-sheet shell company website thing is another nasty harbinger of shadowy work at play ...

I'm suspicious that they (the MM and/or Guthrie/the principal owners) are trying to force this to STAY down at 1 for a while, shaking out every last possible person, including those that recently bought at 2. Then we'll finally see some PR and a brief run, and at the peak of the run we'll have the dump or dilution. But, again, sell on the upswing and you'll be fine, if you didn't buy in at too high of an average.

I hope the more optomistic view is right, though -- and this IS completely legit and some nice PR, FEMA or otherwise, will hit soon. But we don't have a very solid timeline for success here, either way...

I'd love to free up this money for some other plays, and I'm worried we'll be stuck at 1 forever. But if it's a shakedown, then that's the point. So everyone would be best off holding out, even if it takes the rest of the year, IMHO. (We've hit absolute bottom, so it can't get too much worse.... unless they're really cruel and stupid and decide to dillute at rock bottom prices).

Anyone have current Level II's? How're we lookin'?

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Originally posted by Slippery Wing:
...Guthrie would have to keep pumping PR's into this thing to keep the volume moving. If he doesn't do anything to move the price, the stock flat lines at 0.0001, and no one buys, and no one sells. .... And his shell becomes worthless because he can't show a potential buyer that it has volume.

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