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Posted by Nemesis on :
 
Wow 561%
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
What's the deal?? What is it? Any news?

Still rising!
 


Posted by KiddyCat on :
 
it hit 1000% for a sec
 
Posted by mattonic on :
 
ahhh crap, i was two clicks away from buying before it ran....
 
Posted by Marty on :
 
Business Editors / Marketing Writers

NORTHLAKE, Ill.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Dec. 28, 2004--
United Network Marketing Services, Inc. (OTCBB:UMKG)
today announces the closing of the merger of The Knockout Group, Inc., www.theknockoutgroup.com, a privately held company, with a wholly
owned subsidiary of United. Knockout is the exclusive developer and
marketer of George Foreman's Knock-Out(R) line of non-toxic,
people-friendly cleaners and disinfectant.
"The closing of this transaction was an integral part of
Knockout's overall growth plan," said John Bellamy, chairman and chief
executive officer of both The Knockout Group and United. "As a public
company, we believe that Knockout should have greater access to
capital markets."
The Knockout Group pre-launched its line of George Foreman's
Knock-Out(R) household cleaners and disinfectant in August 2004, and
already has product placements in more than 7,000 stores, including
Albertson's, Duckwall, Publix, Target, Walgreen's and the military
exchanges. The company plans to officially launch its household
products line during the first quarter of 2005, followed by the George
Foreman's Knock-Out(R) automotive cleaning products line in mid-2005.
Legal notice to investors: Certain matters discussed in this news
release are "forward-looking statements." These forward-looking
statements, which apply only on the date of this release, generally
can be identified by the use of forward-looking terminology such as
"may," "will," "expects," "intends," "estimates," "anticipates,"
"believes," "continues" or words of similar import. Similarly,
statements that describe the company's future plans, objectives or
goals are also forward-looking statements, which generally involve
known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other facts that may cause
the actual results, performance or achievements of the company to be
materially different from those expressed or implied by such
forward-looking statements. Such factors may include the following:
competitive responses to the company's products; an inability to
satisfy market demand; regulatory matters, insufficient product
volumes and quality provided by suppliers; continued effectiveness of
celebrity-based advertising and marketing; availability of capital to
fund expansion; ability to maintain intellectual property; general
economic, business and market conditions; continued retention of key
personnel and their success in executing the business plan;
maintenance of key trademarks, patents and licenses, and success of
the company's exclusive endorsement and licensing arrangement with
George Foreman. For a listing of risks applicable to the future
prospects of the company, please refer to the company's reports to be
filed with the SEC.
"Knock-Out" is a federally registered trademark of The Knockout
Group, Inc.

KEYWORD: NORTH AMERICA ILLINOIS UNITED STATES
INDUSTRY KEYWORD: RETAIL COMMUNICATIONS MARKETING HOME GOODS SPECIALTY MERGER/ACQUISITION PRODUCT/SERVICE
SOURCE: The Knockout Group, Inc.



 


Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
So they are getting bought out? At what price??? Do we buy now?

Answers! I need answers!!!
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
poor sap that sold the 10k shares at 13:44:39 for .3$ probably don't feel so good right now....

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited December 28, 2004).]
 


Posted by KiddyCat on :
 
bid and ask higher then price!!
 
Posted by KiddyCat on :
 
it at 1500%!
 
Posted by mattonic on :
 
beating head against desk...
 
Posted by KiddyCat on :
 
hit 1700% keep goin!!!!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Goddamn it!!!

Just when I asked what is going on, it ran down to 1.25!!! Could have just tripled my money!!

Damnit!!

We need details on this stock NOW!
 


Posted by KiddyCat on :
 
lol, get otccharts, ya missen on all the fun, a day like this pays otcharts for more than a month
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
If it goes down to $2, I jumping on...

By the way, I see the same thing happening with NCDP when GlaxoSmithKline buys them out in 8 months!
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
duhhhh, i tink dis one will gap tomorrow..

 
Posted by Nemesis on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
If it goes down to $2, I jumping on...

By the way, I see the same thing happening with NCDP when GlaxoSmithKline buys them out in 8 months!


Doing the same thing...
 


Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Now does OTC Charts also give you real time news on these, so that you have a chance to get in before it runs?
 
Posted by Nemesis on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
If it goes down to $2, I jumping on...

By the way, I see the same thing happening with NCDP when GlaxoSmithKline buys them out in 8 months!


Doing the same thing...
 


Posted by Nemesis on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
If it goes down to $2, I jumping on...

By the way, I see the same thing happening with NCDP when GlaxoSmithKline buys them out in 8 months!


Doing the same thing...
 


Posted by KiddyCat on :
 
yup, real time ask/bid basically everything you need. THey going to include level 2 quotes soon too.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
you guys are spoiled....do you realise how few people have this news already?
 
Posted by KiddyCat on :
 
its ddippen to 2.40
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Nemesis,

Anything else you have on this company? Valuation, etc.?

I'm wondering if we are the first to hear about it now, but after hours...

Maybe it will fly tomorrow if the stock is undervalued.
 


Posted by mattonic on :
 
I almost bought becuase of OTC charts..
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
remember the elvis buyout?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Yeah.. listen don't tease me with dreams of mansions, playgirls, and fast cars!!

Besides, George Foreman ain't Elvis.

What's the company they are merging with?

I have to get to work researching this now!
 


Posted by KiddyCat on :
 
almost is never good enough lol


I can say i almost bough usxp at the opening bell when it only had a 1% gain but i dont have that much money, believe it or not but its may first day post'n info off of otccharts
 


Posted by Nemesis on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Nemesis,

Anything else you have on this company? Valuation, etc.?

I'm wondering if we are the first to hear about it now, but after hours...

Maybe it will fly tomorrow if the stock is undervalued.



I am trying to find info. Nothing is coming up though... Still looking

 


Posted by niedejb on :
 
What filter settings did you use to catch ths one?
 
Posted by KiddyCat on :
 
ppl we just used the news streamer they have

i still have some money in this thing, hoping for a good gain tomorrow when everyone eles finds out.
 


Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I don't have charts, Level II, nothin'. I'm just winging it, and making some cash (bought ELSE at 4.08, sold at 5)

The press release for UMKG is not even listed on the Knockout website yet...
 


Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Kiddy, what price did you get in at?
 
Posted by GMG on :
 
I have seen the sale change as much as .5 and bid ask has not moved. Can someone explain?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
It's running again..

Nemesis, what the hell are you doing? Getting in yet? Find anything? You're the original poster, now lead us to the promised land my man!
 


Posted by KiddyCat on :
 
i got in this one late at 2.00, couldn't get in any ealier, this thing was flyin
 
Posted by pick em low on :
 
pump and dump is my guess
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
pump and dump?? On news like this? Are you nuts?

The only question is, what are the terms of the merger, and the valuation of the company...
 


Posted by KiddyCat on :
 
this thing runn'n out of steam....its settling around the 2.30 area
 
Posted by turbokid on :
 
dropping like a rock..

do you think they are shaking off the timid traders and getting ready for another run or is it over..

also do you think this will gap up in the am tomorrow.. and run again... ala SPEA ?

------------------
-Smithers, why didnt you tell me about this stock market crash in 1929?
-Well it was 30 years before i was born sir.
-Oh thats your excuse for everything.
 


Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
That's fine for today... but what does tomorrow hold???

Or is that it. Is $2.30 the correct price for this merger? Where is Nemesis?
 


Posted by GMG on :
 
Did anyone hear just get filled at 2.00?
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
from the 10Q

NUMBER OF SHARES OUTSTANDING OF THE ISSUER'S COMMON STOCK AS OF SEPTEMBER 30,
2004: 7,915,747

the fact that they are already IN stores is worth a mint here....that's the hard part getting shelf-space....

and YES i am thinking of SPEA....

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited December 28, 2004).]
 


Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
So, who is in??? I'm getting in at 2.50 or lower, just to see what happens tomorrow.
 
Posted by mattonic on :
 
dont chase a stock my friends....
 
Posted by KiddyCat on :
 
im still watching to see if im goin to hold till tomorrow, but as for anything happening tomorrow, i got no clue. Im not in this for the long run so i may bail when i feel it necessary. I honestly dun care what happended, just as long as it goes up. Again, i made only a reasonable profit off this, i hesitated to jump earlier, and i never even came close to the 1177% gain it showin up right now
 
Posted by KiddyCat on :
 
Mattonic, i agree, i only chased it cuz i saw a lot of buying pressure at the time, now honestly, there isnt any movement at all.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Too late huh? Missed the boat at 1.25.. damnit!

Oh well, back to sifting for gold nuggets in the wet sand....
 


Posted by KiddyCat on :
 
im out, that 2.30 was its final top, its going down!
 
Posted by turbokid on :
 
dropping again... b/a the same.. maybe another run??
 
Posted by mattonic on :
 
Kiddy...your already in for a profit, just watch out for a retrace after such a big run...

[This message has been edited by mattonic (edited December 28, 2004).]
 


Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I guess we'll see what tomorrow holds...

Any last comments Nemesis, or still doing research?
 


Posted by KiddyCat on :
 
as i said, i was out, saw it froze at 2.30 and ran, as for the retrace its right now
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Retrace? It's going back up... that was that dip I was talking about.. I'm in at 1.60.... will hold through tomorrow.
 
Posted by Nemesis on :
 
I saw the PR come out. That is how I found out about his stock... I have been trying to find out about this deal/company since the PR came out.. I am in at $1.5 and $2.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
i agree that Foreman aint Elvis, BUT he has sold one $hitload of those little grills....
and he is on TV every day somewhere...
 
Posted by turbokid on :
 
whats level 2 lookin like..

more buying or selling going on..??

------------------
-Smithers, why didnt you tell me about this stock market crash in 1929?
-Well it was 30 years before i was born sir.
-Oh thats your excuse for everything.
 


Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Well, damn with the King, go with Foreman!

Like I said, I'm in.

We'll see what happens the next few days.

Anybody besides me and Nemesis holding?
 


Posted by TSHRUFUS on :
 
got in at 1.75 little bit ago

 
Posted by KiddyCat on :
 
okay found some additional info:

nited Network Marketing Services owns a 50% interest in AccessNewAge Corporation which operates a Web site selling new age products and services. It is a development stage company with minimal operations since its formation in 1998. Founder and director Alan Gelband owns 64% of United Network Marketing Services; CEO Kenneth Levy owns 13%.

So im guess'n they are marketin the new product for The knockout group.

This company had a $66 net income, im guessin its going to be a lot more after this deal

oh and i found this release from knockout in nov.
NORTHLAKE, Ill., Nov. 8 /PRNewswire/ -- George Foreman is joining the $2 billion plus household cleaning products industry with a new line of environmentally friendly cleaners. Experts believe the combination of his powerful name, brand presence, and his new cleaning line's innovative Encapsulation(TM) Technology will make his Knock-Out(R) Household Cleaning System plus Disinfectant a big hit with consumers.

In addition to the cleaners, the Knock-Out(R) System also includes the first botanical disinfectant in the U.S. made from plant extracts that kill 99.99 percent of bacteria. George Foreman's Knock-Out(R) Super Disinfectant Spray is the only disinfectant registered by the EPA for use on food contact surfaces, as well as children's toys and high chairs.

The intention behind Foreman's new product launch is to help protect people's health, and to leave a clean environmental legacy for future generations. "I only get behind products that I really trust and believe in," said Foreman. "My new Household Cleaning System and Disinfectant will help people win the fight against dirt, grease, grime and bacteria without hurting the ones we love, our pets, or the world we all share. That's why I put my name and signature on every bottle."

The George Foreman Knock-Out(R) System consists of three cleaners and one disinfectant -- a Multi-Purpose Cleaner, a Deep Stain Remover, a Streak-Free Glass Cleaner and a Super Disinfectant Spray (known as Disinfectant Spray in California).

The three cleaners can take on all of the toughest cleaning challenges in the home. They are powerful enough to banish nasty soap scum, grease and grime, power out stains like wine and lipstick on everything from carpets and upholstery to laundry and delicate silk, and bring out the shine on glass, windows and more. Also, they contain no synthetic fragrances, dyes or harsh chemicals.

Foreman's patent-pending cleaners feature an exclusive trademarked process called Encapsulation(TM) Technology. This supercharged formula generates a perpetual molecular motion that breaks down, lifts up and then suspends dirt, grease and grime until it's wiped away for a true, deep down clean.

This technology is not the only feature that sets these cleaners apart from others. Instead of using harsh solvents, these products contain biodegradable ingredients that are so effective, yet so safe, that you don't need gloves to use the products and they don't require warning labels.

"I'm very proud of the fact that these cleaners and the disinfectant are tough on grease, grime, and bacteria yet easy on the wallet and the world," said Foreman. The Knock-Out(R) line delivers premium performance at a price that's on par with traditional cleaners."

The complete line of George Foreman's Knock-Out(R) Household Cleaning System is now available at most Target stores, Walgreens, Publix, and Duckwall, and will soon be available at other mass retailers, grocery and drug store chains


Good luck ppl
 


Posted by TSHRUFUS on :
 
Should we keep this overnight or get out today? I'm new at this stuff and havent made the right decision on anything
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Keep it overnight! Hold the line!

Sounds good for a long term hold actually...
 


Posted by Nemesis on :
 
Thanks KiddyCat. I think you turned up the best info yet. I am holding overnight... Let us see what tomorrow brings
 
Posted by KiddyCat on :
 
Oh its not a problem, just to let you know that is as much dd i'll do, since i no longer have a position in this thing. Well thats it, im done for the day.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
the MM's are getting in a very nice line now...are we havin fun yet?
 
Posted by KiddyCat on :
 
i was just about to leave when i noticed it at 2.95!!! this thing might open even higher tomorrow!
 
Posted by Nemesis on :
 
It is running again...
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
We're making money... we're going to sizzler.

How great would it be to wake up tomorrow and this pig open up at $9??

Fantastic!

Oh, and for all who are interested, I posted an e-mail I received from the CEO of NCDP on the NCDP post.
 


Posted by KiddyCat on :
 
lol, dont get your hopes up its back down to 2.50...if only we could run steadily up till close...

Dang, i cant seem to get off this comp, this stock intrestin to watch
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
this is the shake.... tomorrow we'll bake
 
Posted by NomarKash on :
 
This its worth getting in at $2.75?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
$9 I say! I need to pay off my Party Poker debts!

C'mon George Foreman!
 


Posted by KiddyCat on :
 
If only i wasnt so tight with money right now i'd prob had held a small position in this thing. I just hope i wont feel as bad tomorrow
 
Posted by TSHRUFUS on :
 
500 shares at 1.75 out at 2.75 YEPPIE my first bank
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
C'mon, break 3!
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
this news hasn't even sunk in yet guys....

 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I'm relatively new to this board, but I must say Glassman, since reading your posts, you are quite the optimist - good to hear!

Question is, are you sitting in a some cardboard box, or in some mansion?? Have to see where your optimism has led you!
 


Posted by KiddyCat on :
 
congrats TSHRUFUS!



 


Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
I'm relatively new to this board, but I must say Glassman, since reading your posts, you are quite the optimist - good to hear!

Question is, are you sitting in a some cardboard box, or in some mansion?? Have to see where your optimism has led you!


well let me go out onto the balcony see, hmmm how do you work these keypad locks on the doors?
 


Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Now, thshrufus, won't you be kicking yourself when this thing opens at $9 tomorrow?

To the moon Alice!
 


Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I don't know if this is a good sign or bad sign, but the idiots over at Yahoo message boards have discovered this...

UMKG.OB - Look at this rocket!!!!
by: rgerst_1 (35/M) 12/28/04 04:05 pm
Msg: 2643 of 2643

I stumbled onto this one! WOW!


 


Posted by Nemesis on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TSHRUFUS:
500 shares at 1.75 out at 2.75 YEPPIE my first bank

That is awesome, nice when things payoff.
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
first rule...if you made money don't kick yourself...
somebody sold 10K shares of this today for .3$ at 13:44:39, and at the time they doubled their money...

repoman, i repoed in MD-DC and VA back in the 80's n 90's....kinda miss the rush... but this is almost as good, and my wife is ALOT happier.... (back when they were just starting to use the chipped keys)

PS... i'm a bull not an optimist...i see a lot of crap out here, but i IGNORE it....

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited December 28, 2004).]
 


Posted by TSHRUFUS on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Now, thshrufus, won't you be kicking yourself when this thing opens at $9 tomorrow?

To the moon Alice!



No way im happy i made a good profit. for those that are still in i hope it does go to 9.00
 
Posted by Nemesis on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TSHRUFUS:
500 shares at 1.75 out at 2.75 YEPPIE my first bank

That is awesome, nice when things payoff.
 


Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Sorry to disappoint you glassman, but I'm not that type of Repoman. I'm more the type who comes to collect by putting liens on your house when you miss paying your bills... I'm not the one actually taking the cars.

And, I got the nickname in college when one of my roommates failed to pay his bills one month, and I ended up taking his paychecks and giving him allowance. Ahh, the good old days.
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
they have taken most of the fun of the hunt out of it anyway now with the on-star stuff...
 
Posted by turbokid on :
 
isnt it amazing how many people have no idea how to handle there money..?? i work with about 25 people who make 40k per year and about 10 of them have filed bankruptcy in the last 2 years... ???

------------------
-Smithers, why didnt you tell me about this stock market crash in 1929?
-Well it was 30 years before i was born sir.
-Oh thats your excuse for everything.
 


Posted by jugiproject on :
 
Turbo kid,

Are you really a kid?

I am holdin this one too, @ $2.00
 


Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Any of you chart folks see what's coming at the open?
 
Posted by TSHRUFUS on :
 
bid 3.65 ask 3.70
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
We're going to sizzler, we're going to sizzler.

$9 open!

Can someone go to the Yahoo Message Boards for SIRI and TAYD and just post this stock? Those vultures will drive us into the teens.
I can't post from the PC (Big Brother has my hands tied)

[This message has been edited by Repoman75 (edited December 29, 2004).]
 


Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
What do you guys holding this think? Has it stabilized, or just taking a breather?
 
Posted by KiddyCat on :
 
as u know i don't have a position in this but i'd say take a profit around 3.20. Rmbr this company has barley made any press releases in the past, you never know what could happen. Plus there are many other penny plays each day that are better worth your investment.
 
Posted by Nemesis on :
 
Out @ $3.2 - going to get back around low ($1.50 to $1.80). I think this is going to hit $3 again today.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I got out at $2.75.

You really think it is going back to $3 today??? Why?

Besides, they are just the marketing firm for Foreman's products. George actually keeps all of the money.
 


Posted by KiddyCat on :
 
it was at a 1.80 but it look like its going up from here. I think we might close in the high 2's
 
Posted by KiddyCat on :
 
Marketing a big business, especially when doing it for the knockout group, i guess we wont find out thier earnings till like 2nd quarter of 2005. Although this may be a trigger for this company to grow in the right direction.
 
Posted by Nemesis on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
I got out at $2.75.

You really think it is going back to $3 today??? Why?

Besides, they are just the marketing firm for Foreman's products. George actually keeps all of the money.


I am looking at the chart now. I think it will hover around the mid to lower 2's (then have some highs and lows). This is not a long term hold for me. Just something I am playing today. These Bid/Ask gaps are really nice. I am fairly positive about seeing trades at $3 before the end of the day, not holding there though.
 


Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Ok, I'm in at 2.05.

Let's see what happens.
 


Posted by TSHRUFUS on :
 
whats lvl 2 look like anyone?
 
Posted by kevo21 on :
 

Well im in 556 @ 1.95, lets hope this goes up.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
It sounds like a good product... the only FDA approved cleaning product.

But I'm not sure if it's a long term hold.

But then again, remember the Grill!
 


Posted by Nemesis on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TSHRUFUS:
whats lvl 2 look like anyone?

Bid - Ask
1.95 - 2.00
1.90 - 2.50
1.85 - 2.60
1.85 - 3.00
1.80 - 3.14


They have been shifting rather fast at times - due to large gapping.
 


Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
And what's up with this piece of crap? Let's gooooooo already! $3 please.
 
Posted by TSHRUFUS on :
 
anyone still in this?
 
Posted by TSHRUFUS on :
 
its at its low of the day debating whether to get back in or not

 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I bailed out, took a loss of .1

Garbage!
 


Posted by KiddyCat on :
 
level 2 aint look'n too good, don't!

it settlin around the 1.80 point. It also may open lower tomorrow since there a lot of uncertainity.
 


Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
What about YDIW? It's running!
 
Posted by KiddyCat on :
 
this is a forum for micro penny stocks, anyhow i dont follow anythin but bb and pinks.

[This message has been edited by KiddyCat (edited December 29, 2004).]
 


Posted by turbokid on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jugiproject:
Turbo kid,

Are you really a kid?

I am holdin this one too, @ $2.00


well, if by kid you mean im sitting home waiting for my mom to come home and give me my allowance, the answer is no.. but sometimes i act like one..

good luck with UMKG, missed to boat yesterday
too nervous to get in today..

- turbokid

------------------
-Smithers, why didnt you tell me about this stock market crash in 1929?
-Well it was 30 years before i was born sir.
-Oh thats your excuse for everything.
 


Posted by Nemesis on :
 
No $3... I did not fill my sell price. Well, I am still sitting at good gains for this stock. I will sell at best price before 8:00 am tomorrow... I have already sold to cover plus some. I had to leave early yesterday; otherwise I would have closed then. Hope everybody was able to trade this stock for a gain.

------------------
Through different exercises practice has brought skill.
 


Posted by binnocent on :
 
Bad pick, I don't like George anymore. lol
in @ 2.90 out @ 1.70. I guess I needed a tax loss anyway. Win some lose more! And I was having a good month before this.
My New Years resolution......get Level 2's. Can't keep flying blind.
Real sad thing I saw the news when it was at 50 cents.
 
Posted by KiddyCat on :
 
Did you read the postings????? Why would you go in at 2.90???? most if not all here went in at 2.00 amd lower, and sold that day or the next.
 
Posted by binnocent on :
 
I went in the next morning after the big run thinking it was going to climb higher. And held way to long having trouble exiting all day yesterday. I know, not a very smart move!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Up a little bit...
 
Posted by TSHRUFUS on :
 
up 50%
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Changed symbols today to KNOH - showing bid and ask. Are they now OTC?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Guys, changed symbols to KNOH yesterday. Now up 20%. I think this thing is going to be a monster.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
KNOH up another 20% pre market.

For some strange reason I have a feeling that this is going to be a monster.
 


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