Berlin Stock Exchange
FRANKLIN, KY -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 02/09/04 -- GameZnFlix, Inc. (OTC
BB: GZFX), formerly known as Point Group Holdings, Incorporated (OTC
BB: PGHI), an online video game rental company, announced today that
it has been granted permission to trade its shares on the Third
Market Segment of the Berlin Stock Exchange. The German trading
symbol will be "PQJ.BE" and the German securities code: (WKN) will be
164641.
GameZnFlix CEO John Fleming commented, "We are very pleased to have
been approved for trading on the Berlin Stock Exchange. The Berlin
Exchange should make buying and selling our shares less problematic
for German and European stockholders and should provide help to
assure improved liquidity in our common stock overall.
Mr. Fleming continued: "We are striving to enhance our corporate
visibility in Germany and expand our corporate presence to a broader
financial community throughout Europe. We believe this prestigious
platform will assure that our company story reaches a much larger
European audience. Additionally, we are looking forward to seeking a
company listing on the London Exchange later in 2004."
GameZnFlix, Inc. currently markets its video game rentals through its
wholly owned subsidiary, www.VeeGeeZ.com and in the near future will
be opening a new website www.GameZnFlix.com to offer both DVD movies
and video game rentals. The company has currently has two
distribution centers, Los Angeles, CA and Franklin, KY with plans for
an additional two to three more centers during 2004.
For more information contact John Fleming, CEO PGHI at
001.270.598.0385 or e-mail ceo@pghi.biz or examine the following
websites:
GameZnFlix, Inc.: http://www.gameznflix.com
Veegeez.com, LLC: http://www.veegeez.com
Certain statements in this news release may contain forward-looking
information within the meaning of Rule 175 under the Securities Act
of 1933 and Rule 3b-6 under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, and
are subject to the safe harbor created by those rules. All
statements, other than statements of fact, included in this release,
including, without limitation, statements regarding potential future
plans and objectives of the company, are forward-looking statements
that involve risks and uncertainties. There can be no assurance that
such statements will prove to be accurate and actual results and
future events could differ materially from those anticipated in such
statements. Technical complications that may arise could prevent the
prompt implementation of any strategically significant plan(s)
outlined above. The company cautions that these forward looking
statements are further qualified by other factors including, but not
limited to those, set forth in the company's Form 10-KSB filing and
other filings with the United States Securities and Exchange
Commission (available at www.sec.gov). The company undertakes no
obligation to publicly update or revise any statements in this
release, whether as a result of new information, future events or
otherwise.
John Fleming
CEO PGHI
001.270.598.0385
ceo@pghi.biz
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DaDog
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DaDog
GLAD I UPPED MY POSITION AT .072 AND .075 LEVELS.
GREAT NEWS FOR A MONDAY.
DOG--I HAVE A GOOD FEELING ABOUT QBID. I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE OFF THE CHARTS THIS WEEK. I AM THINKING THE .005 IS POSSIBLE EVEN WITH THE DRAMATIC INCREASE IT HAS ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED. YOUR THOUGHTS???
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DIANA
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quote:
Originally posted by VeeHappy:
Here we go...
http://www.pacificnet.net/~sonia/sts/90-0496.JPG
I LIKE THAT!! I AM GOING TO BUY MORE AT .10. I HAVE LOST IT..HUH.. THAT WILL PUT ME AT AN AVERAGE OF ABOUT .08 FOR 170,000 SHARES.
HOPE EVERYONE HAS A GREAT DAY....
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DIANA
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DaDog
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volume at 3.1million at 30 minutes after market opening
High 11.4
low 10.5
quote:
Originally posted by jr:
i cant log in to my ameritrade account, i've been on hold for 45 minutes, a little pissed to say the least.. can someone please give me an update on what the stock is doing? thanks!
Nice day here for GZFX so far. Wide spread .105x.11 will slow things down.
quote:
Originally posted by chrissy_a:
GZFX board is very quiet today ! I suppose all the longs have their shares safely locked away
quote:
Originally posted by matthewtaber:
My account is showing I don't even own any. Etrade did screw up on the symbol change.
currently at .108 bid .107 ask .108
vol 5.4million
high.114 low .101
http://www.allstocks.com/level2quotesotcbb.html#
shows support at .10 resist at .115
quote:
Originally posted by jr:
thanks kc
Chrissy
quote:
Originally posted by Schnauzer:
MyTrack .... $12.95 per trade, a few dollars more than what you pay, and I have NEVER had any trouble like you guys are haveing. Name changes, symbol changes, they take care of it and are ready the same day at the opening bell. User friendly software, excellent customer support. I wish I had bought shares in their company. It has gone up pretty well in the past 2 years or so. Anyway, something for you guys to think about.
quote:
Originally posted by chrissy_a:
GZFX board is very quiet today ! I suppose all the longs have their shares safely locked away
Exactly. I'm rolling with free shares now on GZFX. Time to play the new up and comers and break outs.
David,
You will have to wait until Gameznflix.com offers them. VeeGeeZ will still remain a video game rental company.
Thanks for Choosing VeeGeeZ.
Lance Wiseman
VeeGeeZ.com, LLC
On 2/9/04 8:41 AM, "Valued Customer" <dellery@aol.com> wrote:
Howdy Im interested in renting DVD's
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Realperson
Where can we find a good DD on this one?
Thx
quote:
Originally posted by mistikal07:
Exactly. I'm rolling with free shares now on GZFX. Time to play the new up and comers and break outs.
ok! that is how it is supposed to work. profit builds diversity.
uncle milty
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Realperson
It is my impression that GamezNFlix will use the same game database as Veegeez along with offering DVDs. It will be a portal type interface into Veegeez.
The new site will be the bomb. As someone already pointed out this baby is being designed by THE TOP DAWG in the industry. I know who it is but I will not disclose that information so do not ask. Just know that it is in very capable hands and you will all be impressed.
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LATE FEES SUCK!
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
"I know who it is but I will not disclose that information so do not ask."
The question is why are you able to be in the "know" of privileged information?
OK, so you know this information, so why make it known fact and then follow up with "...so don't even ask".
Does this make sense to anyone? -
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
The question is why are you able to be in the "know" of privileged information?OK, so you know this information, so why make it known fact and then follow up with "...so don't even ask".
Does this make sense to anyone? -
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
The question is why are you able to be in the "know" of privileged information?OK, so you know this information, so why make it known fact and then follow up with "...so don't even ask".
Does this make sense to anyone? -
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
...Just thought I could instill some confidence in some people's decision to hold.
Just like the confidence that was generated from statements the former poster magoo made. Yes, this "not at the liberty" nonsense does wonders for prospective/current investors confidence levels. - Marty
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Finally, the only reason I am "in the know" is because I ask. Try it some time.
Thank you for the insight. Maybe I will try asking. -
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
Just like the confidence that was generated from statements the former poster magoo made. Yes, this "not at the liberty" nonsense does wonders for prospective/current investors confidence levels. - Marty
When I made the comment I was only trying to clear up the confusion that the two sites would be one in the same. Focus on that information and not the fact that I said I know something that I cannot tell. That was only supplemental to the important information.
Anyway, I am not here to bicker and argue. Just trying to help. I will not continue this conversation any further.
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
Just like the confidence that was generated from statements the former poster magoo made. Yes, this "not at the liberty" nonsense does wonders for prospective/current investors confidence levels. - Marty
[This message has been edited by ignorantbliss (edited February 10, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Let's not forget that I was the first to ask John about Magoo and confirmed his lies. Not that it matters. Please don't attempt to classify me with him.
Before this goes any further, you have too long of a history to be classified with a magoo. This is not what I meant. It is just the fact, people question an individual how they obtain such "privileged" information. If it was gained directly from the CEO as you stated then it is of general public knowledge and anything other than this would be "insider" information. I am positive this is not the case. Bottom line as you stated, ask the question - to receive an answer. Stop making this more than it is. The end. -
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
Before this goes any further, you have too long of a history to be classified with a magoo. This is not what I meant. It is just the fact, people question an individual how they obtain such "privileged" information. If it was gained directly from the CEO as you stated then it is of general public knowledge and anything other than this would be "insider" information. I am positive this is not the case. Bottom line as you stated, ask the question - to receive an answer. Stop making this more than it is. The end. -
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
I love you man!
The feeling is mutual. I will enjoy very much to meet you at the GamezNflix investor's blowout. I could buy you a magnum of champagne. Good night Bliss! - Marty
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
The feeling is mutual. I will enjoy very much to meet you at the GamezNflix investor's blowout. I could buy you a magnum of champagne. Good night Bliss! - Marty
As each day/week/month passes, we lose a potential new customer to Gfly and NFLX.
When are we going to see print ads in game magazines? Are they working on an affiliate program?
Also to point out, the reviews were all spaced apart time wise dating back months ago so its safe to say there was no foul play from veegeez supporters.
Guess we'll hold here for a while before the next big jump... I can wait.
quote:
Originally posted by dazedtrader:
All quiet on the GZFX front... so used to seeing this stock move big and fast that its strange to see only 3mil in volume when its almost noon-time.Guess we'll hold here for a while before the next big jump... I can wait.
Not for nothing, but GamezNflix is doing very good with it's current PPS level. It can't constantly go up. Right? -
quote:
Originally posted by pegasus:
i agree. i for one like many have believed in the long term potential of this company and are no longer worried about the day to day pps. we all have done are dd and know that this is a long term play and will pan out even larger then it already has for us. just check back on the pps every so often and the pps will have advanced. relax and just watch your investment slowly grow. - richard
GZFX GZFX GZFX....will make us RICH!
cheers
VeeHappy
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Right now we're building very good support. I think this is very good for the stock to trade sideways for a while. That way when we pop again it will be big and it should hold the new suport rather than sinking back down.
I got a question for you. How long have you been in this stock?
hmmm....someone got cold feet
quote:
Originally posted by dazedtrader:
Wow, down more than 15% all of a sudden... can't seem to hold onto 10 cents for more than a few days at a time.
Yes sir dazed indeed. This is just shaking out the weak. So I assume you sold trader? Now we go up stronger than before, less the weak. -
Chill people. 8-)
quote:
Originally posted by Mac the Knife:
If you have been in this for a long time SOP you would know that this is a normal movement for this stock. It is called accumulation. Time to buy more and prepare for the next step back up. Mac
True, true; sometimes I have to sit back and think about where this stock was just two weeks ago (pricewise). It's easy to panic though, and it's already bouncing back up a little. My problem is I'm in front of a computer all day and even though I'm long I just get caught up in the daily price movements.
quote:
Originally posted by Brada777:
You guys remember the .04's days when we went to .06 and then came crashing down.. LOL Good times!! Good times!! Look at us a couple weeks later pushing .12! Holding strong.
MACD seems to be leveling off and may start a downward trend also. The next few days will tell the tale. Don't anyone get worried here. Hold on to what you have and use the possible downtrend to pick up some cheap shares!
See http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=GZFX.OB
Go to candlestickshop.com That might help answer your question. Don't put a lot of stock in this going to .07. I really doubt it. AND if it does, scrape some money together and buy more beacause you wont see the stock trade in that range ever again. This happened before. We went into the .05's then all the way back to .027. Back up to the 6's and then all way back to 4's. Those percentage drops were more than the current one. That's what I mean by this is no big deal and it is to be expected. We will go back up. Mac
quote:
Originally posted by r.douglas:
Bullish hammer? What's this, whats it mean? why downward trend? please explain.
Relax, people should actually explain completely what they are talking about. See here:
http://hotcandlestick.com/index.htm?http://hotcandlestick.com/directory/Bullish%20Hammer.htm~hotcontent
I would not lose sleep over GZFX retracing to seven cents. I just don't see it happening. It is time to accumulate and continue building the base around nine/ten. -
Some of us play this BB stocks like they play gonzos ex wifes!!! Like a piece of trash, put all kinds of money in them, treat them like there the best thing that ever happened, then sell them off.. Pump-N-Dump the pennies thats how you play them..
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
quote:
Originally posted by onehitwonder:
Thats because PGHI now GZFX is a major scam waiting to be had!! When the current insiders start to unload there 300million and the unload the rest of the 900million putting it over a billionnnnnn your shares will be worthless! I posted this about a month ago, and yes I said it would get pumped up to .10-.15 before the big sell off back to .01 or lower!Some of us play this BB stocks like they play gonzos ex wifes!!! Like a piece of trash, put all kinds of money in them, treat them like there the best thing that ever happened, then sell them off.. Pump-N-Dump the pennies thats how you play them..
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
different day, different basher. LOL 
quote:
Originally posted by onehitwonder:
Thats because PGHI now GZFX is a major scam waiting to be had!! When the current insiders start to unload there 300million and the unload the rest of the 900million putting it over a billionnnnnn your shares will be worthless! I posted this about a month ago, and yes I said it would get pumped up to .10-.15 before the big sell off back to .01 or lower!Some of us play this BB stocks like they play gonzos ex wifes!!! Like a piece of trash, put all kinds of money in them, treat them like there the best thing that ever happened, then sell them off.. Pump-N-Dump the pennies thats how you play them..
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
I HAVE POSTED WITH PROOF,, JUST READ THE LAST FILINGS, AND LOOK AT THIS > IS THAT A HOUSE I SEE, I HAVE ASK MANY TIMES IF SOME ONE COULD CONFIRM THE NEW LOCATION, WE EVEN HAD SOME ONE POST THAT HE LIVED THERE AND WAS GOING UP TO TAKE SOME PICTURES OF THE NEW PLACE IN KY,, HE NEVER POSTED AGAIN.. HMMM..
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/addressimage.aspx?t=1&s=10&lon=-86.5607421633637&lat=36.7352811131736&alon=-86.56073588&alat=36.7352828944&w=2&ref=A%7c1535+Blackjack+Rd%2c+F ranklin%2c+KY+42134
YOU MIGHT SAY THATS AN OLD PICTURE, BUT ONCE ITS ZONE RESIDENTAIL IT STAYS THAT WAY.. THATS A HOUSE..
GET A CLUE!
quote:
Originally posted by onehitwonder:
HAY VEEGEEZ'S HOW THE GAME RENTALS DOING,
Yawn...Got anything else?
quote:
Originally posted by onehitwonder:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Brada777:
[B]Please if you are going to post your opinion provide some proof. Or I may think you are the "onehitwonder" You keep talking but no information to back it up.I HAVE POSTED WITH PROOF,, JUST READ THE LAST FILINGS, AND LOOK AT THIS > IS THAT A HOUSE I SEE, I HAVE ASK MANY TIMES IF SOME ONE COULD CONFIRM THE NEW LOCATION, WE EVEN HAD SOME ONE POST THAT HE LIVED THERE AND WAS GOING UP TO TAKE SOME PICTURES OF THE NEW PLACE IN KY,, HE NEVER POSTED AGAIN.. HMMM..
[URL=http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/addressimage.aspx?t=1&s=10&lon=-86.5607421633637&lat=36.7352811131736&alon=-86.56073588&alat=36.7352828944&w=2&ref=A%7c1535+Blackjack+Rd %2c+F]http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/addressimage.aspx?t=1&s=10&lon=-86.5607421633637&lat=36.7352811131736&alon=-86.56073588&alat=36.7352828944&w=2&ref=A%7c1535+Blackjack+R d%2c+F[/URL] ranklin%2c+KY+42134YOU MIGHT SAY THATS AN OLD PICTURE, BUT ONCE ITS ZONE RESIDENTAIL IT STAYS THAT WAY.. THATS A HOUSE..
GET A CLUE!
HE LANCE OR MARK, I KNOW THATS YOU, I HAVE INSIDERS THAT TOLD ME SO, NICE TRY, BUT THIS WILL NEVER GET PAST .15 YOU CAN BET ON IT..
OH YEH, THAT FROGER WAS BAD TO START WITH REMEMBER!
All we have to do if we want a good laugh is read old posts. We appreciate you wanting us to smile a bit though. Looking at the stock tripling in my portfolio though is reason enough to smile.
You'll get a better reaction from the RB crowd. Too many mature sharp minds to waste your time.
Nice website don't you think?
quote:
Originally posted by onehitwonder:
YEH WHAT DO YOU PLAN TO DO WITH YOUR 160MILLION SHARES JOHN?HE LANCE OR MARK, I KNOW THATS YOU, I HAVE INSIDERS THAT TOLD ME SO, NICE TRY, BUT THIS WILL NEVER GET PAST .15 YOU CAN BET ON IT..
OH YEH, THAT FROGER WAS BAD TO START WITH REMEMBER!
DO YOUR OWN DD BUT YOU CAN BET ON IT!
quote:
Originally posted by aznasdq:
onehit loser,
if you don't like the stock
then just stay away from it, sounds like you have an axe to grind. Were you dumped from the company and now you bash it?
Look at NetFlix. This may not get to those levels, but certainly it will push past 0.15. Watch and learn.
AZ
Look at NetFlix. This may not get to those levels, but certainly it will push past 0.15. Watch and learn.
AZ
WATCH AND LEARN,,, OK I WILL POST MARK THIS POST, AND WHEN IT GOES BACK TO .06 NEXT WEEK I WILL BE BACK TO REMIND YOU THAT YOU HAVE ALOT TO LEARN.. NEVER, NOT WITH THE MARKET CAP/SHARES OUT WILL IT EVER GET PASS .10,, JUST LIKE SIRI DID TO THE CURRENT SHARE HOLDERS.
GOOD LUCK SUCKER.
quote:
Originally posted by onehitwonder:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by aznasdq:
[B] then just stay away from it, sounds like you have an axe to grind. Were you dumped from the company and now you bash it?Look at NetFlix. This may not get to those levels, but certainly it will push past 0.15. Watch and learn.
AZWATCH AND LEARN,,, OK I WILL POST MARK THIS POST, AND WHEN IT GOES BACK TO .06 NEXT WEEK I WILL BE BACK TO REMIND YOU THAT YOU HAVE ALOT TO LEARN.. NEVER, NOT WITH THE MARKET CAP/SHARES OUT WILL IT EVER GET PASS .10,, JUST LIKE SIRI DID TO THE CURRENT SHARE HOLDERS.
GOOD LUCK SUCKER.
quote:
Originally posted by onehitwonder:
Thats because PGHI now GZFX is a major scam waiting to be had!! When the current insiders start to unload there 300million and the unload the rest of the 900million putting it over a billionnnnnn your shares will be worthless! I posted this about a month ago, and yes I said it would get pumped up to .10-.15 before the big sell off back to .01 or lower!Some of us play this BB stocks like they play gonzos ex wifes!!! Like a piece of trash, put all kinds of money in them, treat them like there the best thing that ever happened, then sell them off.. Pump-N-Dump the pennies thats how you play them..
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
You are very persistant aren't you. I thought we lost you yesterday.
It's different to post your opinion but, You are an out right basher. Do you not have anything better to do?
You are showing your basher colors and I must tell you, I don't believe you can shake up any of the longs here. Move on. You have failed here.
Hold them strong your shares. A lot of great things still have to come.
LIVIOS.
quote:
Originally posted by r.douglas:
yeah, to give everyone that wants to make money a chance to get more shares....TO MAKE MORE MONEY!!! Damn I wish I had cash available right now
quote:
Originally posted by r.douglas:
yeah, to give everyone that wants to make money a chance to get more shares....TO MAKE MORE MONEY!!! Damn I wish I had cash available right now
Agree.
I wish I had money too.
You have my word folks. It is going UP way UP
Watch this rocket soon
I think this could be for the near future but im not sure.
LIVIOS
quote:
Originally posted by VeeHappy:
one hitwonder ...MAGOO in desguise coming back mad as a headless cow.
quote:
Originally posted by chrissy_a:
Just to lety you guys know Tommy is on vacation and still has all his shares..He is back Friday so expect a post Saturday ...that guy is just a lame basher
wasn't he just on vacation for 2 weeks around the time of the house purchase. i still hold allot of my original position, and remain bullish on gzfx. maybe i'm a little old fashioned, but when i started my businesses in the past i worked 12x7x365 and had a business phone extension in my house. i did this until the company(s) could run without me.
as an investor, i would like to my ceo at the helm until all was running 100% smoothly.
uncle milty
And if you are referring to John Flemming being on vacation at the start of the year, that's when the new website was still being developed. There wasn't much he could do until that was rolled out as that pretty much WAS the launch of the company.
Tommy is a shareholder and John Fleming is the CEO. This Gameznflix has been going on for more than a year and if he is on vacation should be more energized, but I personally think it will all come together next week. Just have to wait and see.
Stay patience everyone...
quote:
Originally posted by old mullet:
wasn't he just on vacation for 2 weeks around the time of the house purchase. i still hold allot of my original position, and remain bullish on gzfx. maybe i'm a little old fashioned, but when i started my businesses in the past i worked 12x7x365 and had a business phone extension in my house. i did this until the company(s) could run without me.as an investor, i would like to my ceo at the helm until all was running 100% smoothly.
uncle milty
[This message has been edited by Brada777 (edited February 11, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by old mullet:
wasn't he just on vacation for 2 weeks around the time of the house purchase. i still hold allot of my original position, and remain bullish on gzfx. maybe i'm a little old fashioned, but when i started my businesses in the past i worked 12x7x365 and had a business phone extension in my house. i did this until the company(s) could run without me.as an investor, i would like to my ceo at the helm until all was running 100% smoothly.
uncle milty
Tommy = Investor of GamezNflix
John Fleming = CEO of GamezNflix
_____________________________________________
Who cares anyway where Tommy is, if he sold or not. It does not change the business plan of GamezNflix. This is still the same, so why should it matter what a "long" does with their particular shares? Is Tommy that much of a reference for GZFX PPS activity. He has been gone for days and the PPS is still trading relatively to where it should be. -
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
Tommy = Investor of GamezNflixJohn Fleming = CEO of GamezNflix
_____________________________________________Who cares anyway where Tommy is, if he sold or not. It does not change the business plan of GamezNflix. This is still the same, so why should it matter what a "long" does with their particular shares? Is Tommy that much of a reference for GZFX PPS activity. He has been gone for days and the PPS is still trading relatively to where it should be. -
[This message has been edited by kcbudman (edited February 11, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by kcbudman:
Not that we GZFX er's care, but NetFlix is splitting tomorrow....just FYI cause i am bored. NFLX is currently at 72.00.
http://biz.yahoo.com/c/04/s2.html?tasr[This message has been edited by kcbudman (edited February 11, 2004).]
Thank you, yes I will be watching to see the pps activity. -
My wife just called me from the hospital where she works. One of the Doctors had brought in some information on Netflix along with a promotional code for new subscribers or something to that effect. Most of the people had not heard of Netflix and they made 100 photocopies of the information which were being picked up in a hurry. Lots of people will be signing up from that one person spreading the word about Netflix.
My wife of course started talking about GamezNFlix....but we don't have the DVD's yet so we are on the outside looking in for those people at the moment. She told them DVD's are expected soon, but I don't think that's going to hold these people up from getting on Netflix.
However, you can bet she'll have some VeeGeez information sheets to hand out tomorrow when she goes back to work!!!
12:54:36 PM Trade 0.086 50000
12:54:36 PM Trade 0.085 50000
Are this MM's buying from eachother??
This kind of thing is happening a lot today.
LIVIOS
[This message has been edited by Livios (edited February 11, 2004).]
[This message has been edited by Schnauzer (edited February 11, 2004).]
The price that comes first is the actual event that happened.
So, you will see a buy for 50,000 and then an imediate sell for 50,000
Or you will see a buy for 100,000 and then you will see sells that add up to 100,000.
Watch the Buys/Sells really close, and you will see what I mean.
Especially watch when you buy or sell something
quote:
Originally posted by Livios:
1:01:46 PM Trade 0.085 5000
1:01:46 PM Trade 0.084 5000
12:56:54 PM Trade 0.085 300
12:56:54 PM Trade 0.084 30012:54:36 PM Trade 0.086 50000
12:54:36 PM Trade 0.085 50000Are this MM's buying from eachother??
This kind of thing is happening a lot today.LIVIOS
[This message has been edited by Livios (edited February 11, 2004).]
PWM
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Don't Forget Your Research - Good Luck
I definitely think it could be an incarnation of....*GASP*
You're not impressing anybody.
Online edition of WSJ article can be found second column half way down under homes. Would provide actual story, but have to log in and all that. The 800 lb gorilla is here. Here's link, if you want to log in and all that--
http://online.wsj.com/public/page/0,,1_0029,00.html?mod=1%255F0028
I'm still holding.
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Evan
And if your going to buy, then be ready...
quote:
Originally posted by mad tony:
back down in the 8's, I'm surprised
Anyone have any idea why?
I'm watching it closely.
LIVIOS
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Livious.....
When you see buy and sells like this right in a row, it almost always means that someone sold or bought the stock and the MM's bought or sold it from an MM to cover.The price that comes first is the actual event that happened.
So, you will see a buy for 50,000 and then an imediate sell for 50,000
Or you will see a buy for 100,000 and then you will see sells that add up to 100,000.Watch the Buys/Sells really close, and you will see what I mean.
Especially watch when you buy or sell something
One more thing, I am not "ONEHITWONDER". I have always like this stock..
AKA coby.
Yes-- Viacom is attempting a spin-off Blockbuster AND Blockbuster HAS PLANS TO DISTRIBUTE DVD'S VIA MAIL.
Again, I'm still holding.
Just FYI
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Evan
quote:
Originally posted by Brada777:
Uncle -Tommy is a shareholder and John Fleming is the CEO. This Gameznflix has been going on for more than a year and if he is on vacation should be more energized, but I personally think it will all come together next week. Just have to wait and see.
Stay patience everyone...
[This message has been edited by Brada777 (edited February 11, 2004).]
sorry i misread the post in haste. i appologise for any misunderstanding. i wasn't concerned about tommy's absence.
uncle milty
quote:
Originally posted by old mullet:
sorry i misread the post in haste. i appologise for any misunderstanding. i wasn't concerned about tommy's absence.uncle milty
By: reallife777
11 Feb 2004, 02:09 PM EST
Talked to GZFX IR. Very positive. Plans for a massive PR campaign...Said everthing is progressing in a very positive manner. Also said thay will open with more than 4,000 DVD titles...ANd will be up to 12000 DVD titles soon. On par with NFLX.
By: reallife777
11 Feb 2004, 03:41 PM EST
IR: GZFX will send free introductory offers to Military when site launches this month
jwhite called Investor Relations and they verified that this was true!
Mike
quote:
Originally posted by old mullet:
sorry i misread the post in haste. i appologise for any misunderstanding. i wasn't concerned about tommy's absence.uncle milty
Mike
quote:
Originally posted by jr:
good news guys!!! took this off RB:By: reallife777
11 Feb 2004, 02:09 PM ESTTalked to GZFX IR. Very positive. Plans for a massive PR campaign...Said everthing is progressing in a very positive manner. Also said thay will open with more than 4,000 DVD titles...ANd will be up to 12000 DVD titles soon. On par with NFLX.
By: reallife777
11 Feb 2004, 03:41 PM ESTIR: GZFX will send free introductory offers to Military when site launches this month
jwhite called Investor Relations and they verified that this was true!
However, it's not completed at this time. Only in the works.
quote:
Originally posted by Wooter:
Taking that with a grain of salt. Hate to run around my house naked screaming VeeGeez at the top of my lungs because the postman's daughter's brother's dog's sister's mother said someting awesome. But that would be HUGE. Checking it out myself.Mike
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I've contacted the librarian of the games/animation club at Johns Hopkins University. I'd be willing to pay a student $100 to post flyers promoting Veegeez. If rumors of the $5 referral are true (I emailed GZFX two days ago response yesterday was referral program is still work in progress)that referral money could go to the club as fundraiser money or to the student who posts.
Personally, I will get a lot of satisfaction when the PR is released stating that the number of subscribers is up XXX%. I'm grinning right now!!!
quote:
Originally posted by nitroburn:
I think they will have two sites. One for games and one for DVD's. They will offer membership packages that work for just games, just DVD's, or both.
Why would they call the site "GameznFlix" if it only rents "flix" and not "gamez"?
they should consolidate the two sites and have a membership for renting games and dvd's.
Also, i was at the gamefly site, and they have no late fees or due dates also.
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
Has anyone talked to John Fleming(phone, email,etc)recently, like say in the past week? -
quote:
Originally posted by TimN88:
Why would they call the site "GameznFlix" if it only rents "flix" and not "gamez"?they should consolidate the two sites and have a membership for renting games and dvd's.
Also, i was at the gamefly site, and they have no late fees or due dates also.
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quote:
Originally posted by TimN88:
Why would they call the site "GameznFlix" if it only rents "flix" and not "gamez"?
Original posted by ignorantbliss:
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"If you look at the name "GamezNFliz" you can see that the GamezNFlix site will offer both games and flix (DVDs). Veegeez will continue to be the hard-core gaming site.It is my impression that GamezNFlix will use the same game database as Veegeez along with offering DVDs. It will be a portal type interface into Veegeez. The new site will be the bomb. As someone already pointed out this baby is being designed by THE TOP DAWG in the industry. I know who it is but I will not disclose that information so do not ask. Just know that it is in very capable hands and you will all be impressed."
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quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
I will tell you all right now that I am in the military and I'm working something out with JF now for a military promotion. If it works out I will be able to circulate this thing across the entire Air Force and eventually all forces. The best thing is it will cost nothing as it will be a promotional email that is guaranteed to reach everyone. And belive me, there's a lot of military folks that play video games. Especially overseas. That's how we spent half our off time in Korea.However, it's not completed at this time. Only in the works.
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Thanks
SJD
quote:
Originally posted by sjd235:
Hi All...I was wondering if I could get some opinions as to where a good buy in price is...I have been following this stock for a while now, but never had the money...Now I do and would like to hold for a nice long term investment...All opinions will be appreciated...Also I would appreciate a reason for the price you giveThanks
SJD
Well if its long term, any entry point now would be good. The PPS is only going up for the long term. If you have the minimum of $2500 you might want to consider the PPM(private placement). Buy in of 50% off the last 5 day closing average price from the receipt of monies. Must hold for one year from the buy in date. Contact ceo@gameznflix.com for the details and availability. -
j160e
quote:
Originally posted by sjd235:
Hi All...I was wondering if I could get some opinions as to where a good buy in price is...I have been following this stock for a while now, but never had the money...Now I do and would like to hold for a nice long term investment...All opinions will be appreciated...Also I would appreciate a reason for the price you giveThanks
SJD
Anything under .09 is a great buy for long term. We MIGHT see a decline into the high .07's but thats not a for sure thing.
If you have been following this stock, you will see that when it turns around, it can move fast.
I have been day trading it for a couple of days and picking up a couple extra thousand shares, but I won't day trade it again until after tuesday of next week....too much of a risk that I might miss a big ride.
GLTA
quote:
Originally posted by sjd235:
Hi All...I was wondering if I could get some opinions as to where a good buy in price is...I have been following this stock for a while now, but never had the money...Now I do and would like to hold for a nice long term investment...All opinions will be appreciated...Also I would appreciate a reason for the price you giveThanks
SJD
Keep those opinions coming and have a good night
Thanks
SJD
j160e
quote:
Originally posted by sjd235:
Thanks for the input...Keep the opinions coming...Yes I have noticed that it can rise fast..I started trading in pennies a few weeks ago and this was one of the first ones I looked at and it was at about 0.04 a share...I just made some money on QBID and feel that this has great long term potential and wanted to put some in here...It just seems to have winner written all over it...When I saw it hit $0.12 I said to myself that if I have the chance to get in low again I would take it and now I think it has corrected itself after a very sharp climb up earlier this week.Keep those opinions coming and have a good night
Thanks
SJD
Cheers,
Mike
quote:
Originally posted by sjd235:
Hi All...I was wondering if I could get some opinions as to where a good buy in price is...I have been following this stock for a while now, but never had the money...Now I do and would like to hold for a nice long term investment...All opinions will be appreciated...Also I would appreciate a reason for the price you giveThanks
SJD
quote:
Originally posted by drwright68:
If we are going to launch gameznflix with 4000 dvd titles this month, then it really doesn't matter how long we consolidate here. If we launch this month, then this stock LAUNCHES this month. We will be at a much higher price soon. That is huge news.
That will be one trillion bit of a giga news.
VeeHappy
quote:
Originally posted by Schnauzer:
Take a look at the chart. The RSI is declining, the MACD is getting ready to cross again. Both are signs of lower PPS. It appears we are forming another cup and handle. If so, the bottom of the cup hasn't been reached yet. IMO, looking at the chart, the PPS is going lower tomorrow. I would wait for an entry point in the mid .07's ... but that is only my opinion.
daclyyay[db][pb50!b200][vc60][iUb14!La12,26,9]&pref=G]http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=GZFX,uu[w,a]daclyyay[ db][pb50!b200][vc60][iUb14!La12,26,9]&pref=G
Another Big "W" on the chart!Oh man...This
puppy is now ready to blast-off with a third
booster rocket engine.
Houston...GZFX is ready for lift-off.
VeeHappy
quote:
Originally posted by pegasus:
Has anyone been successful at verifiying this rumor of a dvd site launch of 4000+ titles? I for one am a bit skeptical about that since Mr. Fleming announced to the world that we were only launching with 50 titles last month. I have tried contacting IR (equitilink) about this and have been unable to get a call back from them. Also emailed Mr. Fleming about it. Will let everyone know when a get an answer. Great time to pick up more shares everyone.
Good Morning, I will confirm this. Per a confirmation from Mr.Fleming via email, 4000 DVD titles have been purchased. Note, I said titles. Once again more good news. - Marty
ceo@gamznflix.com
But don't rely on me, call them yourself Then you will know for sure.
Cheers, Mike
quote:
Originally posted by pegasus:
Marty - Thanks. Wow that is incredible! Is it possible for you to forward me that email? Please don't take that the wrong way. I and a few associates are about to dump quite a bit more money in if it is true and would just like to be 100% certain. Thanks Marty. richardthan@msn.com . - Richard
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Originally posted by pegasus:
Your right Marty. I have emailed him last night and haven't gotten a response yet. I'm assuming he's buried at work right now. Thanks and please don't take offense. I greatly value what you and others here have contributed. - richard
I did take offense, but have gotten over it. Don't trust anyone. With that being said, check your mail. - Marty
quote:
Originally posted by pegasus:
Has anyone been successful at verifiying this rumor of a dvd site launch of 4000+ titles? I for one am a bit skeptical about that since Mr. Fleming announced to the world that we were only launching with 50 titles last month. I have tried contacting IR (equitilink) about this and have been unable to get a call back from them. Also emailed Mr. Fleming about it. Will let everyone know when a get an answer. Great time to pick up more shares everyone.
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BetNitAll wrote:
What would an anouncment of 4000 titles do to the PPS......I have never seen a 100% gain in one day since I have owned it. Could we be seeing 100% to 200% gains.....I know we will hit some resistance at .12
I am very much into GZFX and believe it will have a great future. With that said, can you please explain to me why you think we are going to be at .25 to .30 anytime BEFORE the release of the PR about 4000 titles? I guess I am just curious because a lot of people on the GZFX threads the last couple months I believe have been jumping the gun on their opinions of the short term increase of the pps. Just go back and look at some people's predictions in past GZFX and PGHI threads. GZFX will reach your pps that is for sure, I just don't see it on your predicted timetable. Mac
quote:
Originally posted by Mac the Knife:
Dr. Wright,I am very much into GZFX and believe it will have a great future. With that said, can you please explain to me why you think we are going to be at .25 to .30 anytime BEFORE the release of the PR about 4000 titles? I guess I am just curious because a lot of people on the GZFX threads the last couple months I believe have been jumping the gun on their opinions of the short term increase of the pps. Just go back and look at some people's predictions in past GZFX and PGHI threads. GZFX will reach your pps that is for sure, I just don't see it on your predicted timetable. Mac
No particulars at all?
I don't see this jumping to .25 to .30, although I certainly hope it will. I think it will just continue the same increase that we have seen all along. The only thing that will really send this thing rocketing in a short time is high profit. If GZFX announces that they have increased subscriber numbers tenfold, then we will see a good jump in one day. Other than that, it will just be a slow, steady walk up with lots of cups. If you ever want the next netflix, get out there and advertise to get those subscribers.
please ease down a bit... I do not believe GZFX will release the new site and DVD-rentals in February. That is too fast imo, they are still very busy with Veegeez.com.
It will come, but in my opinion it will be at least mid March. Just trying to be realistic in stead of optimistic...
pres
I couldn't agree with you more and that was my point. SLOW DOWN on these wild predictions. We are still "walking" in John's words, and are not ready to run. All in good time. Mac
quote:
Originally posted by Mac the Knife:
Alex and Pres,I couldn't agree with you more and that was my point. SLOW DOWN on these wild predictions. We are still "walking" in John's words, and are not ready to run. All in good time. Mac
quote:
Originally posted by drwright68:
Just food for thought. Where do you think we got the money to buy those 4000 dvd titles? that would be an impressive pr indeed!
S-8 shares? -
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quote:
Originally posted by Schnauzer:
Guys, read between the lines!!! The good DR. is trying to tell you that he is privy to some info that he CANNOT divulge. Obviously the info is of huge magnitude, like maybe in 8.0 on the richter scale. SO, that being said, patience is it's own reward.
The good Doctor is not privy to any other information than you or I. They are forward looking statements. The man has done this in the past and will continue in the future. Patience is of a virtue. Take his statement for what they are worth. We all know of what to expect of GamezNflix. - Marty
...we will see better days soon people! -
SJD
fozzy
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Give us some credit, there are no lines to read. It is just getting old where people come on here make and make unsubstantiated guesses and then make wild guesses on the future pps with really doing any real DD to back it up with. Do you understand. If you don't go read all the past threads. Look for Magoo and a few others. Mac
quote:
Originally posted by Mac the Knife:
..I know something but I can't tell you.. Pleases just keep it to yourself.
My sentiments exactly. To what purpose does is serve to put a buzz in the air when you can not rightfully back it up. Maybe so, these individuals have information and to serve it up as speculation is wrong. Better left unsaid. It only cause unrest anyway. People knowing privileged information and then on top of that announcing this fact. - Marty
[This message has been edited by m_h13021 (edited February 12, 2004).]
The 4000 titles was new information yesterday which came from Investor Relations because someone took the time to call them and ask about the DVD's. Information is there if people want to ask for it. JF confirmed the 4000 titles to those who asked him today. Nothing priviledged....just an advantage to the investor who did his DD and took the time to call Investor Relations.
Again...I don't think anyone knows something the rest of us don't know or can't find out. I just think we all interpret the information differently. Human nature on display.
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
My sentiments exactly. To what purpose does is serve to put a buzz in the air when you can not rightfully back it up. Maybe so, these individuals have information and to serve it up as speculation is wrong. Better left unsaid. It only cause unrest anyway. People knowing privilaged information and then on top of that annocuing this fact. - Marty
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Originally posted by stockguyDD:
where is tommy... he jus dissapeared or did i miss something/
Doing homework with magoo i would guess
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In other words, we should at least close up tomorrow.
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LATE FEES SUCK!
Not a lot of DD going on anymore. Of course there's not much to do for the folks that have been in for months. I fear this is not helping the newbies very much though. I know they can always go back and read hundreds of pages but maybe it's time we brought some good DD back to the present.
I'll start. Here's a site with a lot of good info to build on.
http://stockskill.net/PGHI/#14c
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Originally posted by cappy:
Doing homework with magoo i would guess[This message has been edited by cappy (edited February 12, 2004).]
j160e
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Everyone watch out for tommorow. Fridays have been known to be good to us. CRWN was on the bid going into the last hour of trading (his ask was five points higher) No trading on monday and we have been known to release PR's on tuesday.
Could be some more consolidation but IMO we are going to see higher numbers tommorow. This is just my opinion though.
My technical 2 cents- keep an eye on the MACD fast line, its likely we will get a small bounce off these levels, and then consolidate to the .08's afterwards.
Also keep your eyes on APPI for a move.
KEEP UP THE FREE PUBLICITY FOR GZFX, THE BEST PROMOTION IS WORD OF MOUTH!
(because of the show settings) How about this one-
Thursday, February 05, 2004
News Article in the local Franklin, KY newspaper.
Franklin gets first dot-com business
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Franklin has landed its first dot-com business.
Point Group Holdings, Inc. – an online video game and movie rental company to be known as GameZnflix.com on the internet – is in the process of establishing its headquarters, customer service center and east coast distribution center in Franklin.
CEO John Fleming left San Diego, Ca. and chose Franklin over several southcentral Kentucky and northern Tennessee counties to launch his new business.
“Their is good solid industry here, the schools are good, the climate is perfect, and Franklin is business friendly. Franklin has everything for my business,” said Fleming, who brought his family to Kentucky and purchased a house on Blackjack Road. “It’s kind of neat here.”
Fleming currently owns veegeez.com – a video game rental business with 1,300 offerings. The new company will also include DVD movie rentals.
Fleming said subscribers pay a flat monthly fee, such as $20 for two games or movies, and make their selections over the internet. The movies or games are sent through the mail and usually arrive in two to three days. Subscribers can keep their selections for as long as they want. A prepaid envelope is also sent, and when they turn them in, they can rent two more.
“There are no late fees, no pressure to turn the games or movies in,” said Fleming. “It’s a lot easier for parents and cheaper in some cases.”
Fleming said his site is easy to navigate. Games and movies are broken down by the category, such as sports and action. Fleming’s current site says he has 84 percent of all of the video games in stock.
Fleming said he main competitor in the online movie rental business will be netflix.com, which has over a million customers.
Fleming is still looking at sites for his customer service center and distribution center. He will also maintain a distribution center on the west coast and hopes to open two more in the midwest and northeast when the company gets off the ground. He also plans to expand into England.
Fleming will employ 15 at the customer service center in Franklin. Local operations are expected to begin at the end of the first quarter of this year.
“This internet company sounds like a good opportunity for Franklin and John Fleming,” said F-S Industrial Authority Chairman John Raines.
Point Group Holding, Inc. (PGHI) is a public company which is being traded on the bulletin board. Stock is currently being sold for 5 cents a share.
E-Mail this article to a friend!
quote:
Originally posted by duke:
still plan on holding my shares for the long term. has anyone found the numbers on this stock trading in germany?
If I had a million dollars to invest, I'd be looking to make a quick $100K today in GZFX
GO GZFX!
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quote:
Originally posted by r.douglas:
i know we're all confident in gzfx...but what happened to all of the excitement we had last week.....
We're all complacent now that GZFX is in dime land. You'll see us get excited when it hits the .15-.20 range!
quote:
Originally posted by fozzy:
We're all complacent now that GZFX is in dime land. You'll see us get excited when it hits the .15-.20 range!
Play the GameZ and live happier and longer.
VeeHappy
One of the unclean from HSM here. Woke up this morning banned - "Bring out your dead". Don't know why!
I'm keen on GZFX and have held my shares for a long time and will continue to hold.
I posted here once or twice as "Chucky", but mostly I just read all your posts. There are some good people here, hope to get to know you all pretty soon. BTW, my name I used on HSM was e_ray.
GZFX is one of the few greens in a sea of red today.
Good luck in your trades,
e_ray
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It was erroneously stated on another message board about the earnings report being released this Sunday. There will not be one Sunday so pretend you never heard it. Mac
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Originally posted by Mac the Knife:
Peg and Bud,It was erroneously stated on another message board about the earnings report being released this Sunday. There will not be one Sunday so pretend you never heard it. Mac
hey i just posted that because we were on the topic. not exactly a whole lot of informational posts going on currently so i wrote that. just agreeing with his thoughts was all. right now.....honestly i don't care when the report comes out. im holding long and nothing right now will change that. unless they tell me their distribution centers burned down, then i suppose things might change.
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
Oh my god when did their distribution center burn down. This is terrible, I wonder if we will get a Press release? -
lol, I'm sure you're joking, but if not, he said "unless they tell me..."
quote:ROFLOLLLL.....TOO MUCH.....HA HA HA!
Originally posted by r.douglas:
i agree....i had to choose between buying a dior bag for my girlfriend for val-day and getting more gzfx. I got 30k more gzfx. she'll thank me in the long run.hahaaaa
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"if you keep doin' what you doin' you'll keep gettin' what you gettin'!!!
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
I informed all the other boards and have a email in to John Fleming, just waiting for a response. I hope this does not drop the PPS? -
YO M_H!..YOU HAVE BEEN USING SARCASM ON BOTH THE BOARDS(THIS ONE AND DINCING WITH BULLS)..TAKE IT EASY..i KNOW THAT IT'S FRUSTRATING TO HEAR RUMOURS LEFT AND RIGHT..BUT YA GOTTA LIVE AND LET LIVE ON THESE MATTERS...OK BUDDY....TAKE CARE.
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"if you keep doin' what you doin' you'll keep gettin' what you gettin'!!!
[This message has been edited by scorpionet67 (edited February 13, 2004).]
On the other hand we do have the PPM's total to take into account. Also, to me, there is something else going on with funding. To run a rental business and have 4,000 movie titles you would need a boatload of money and I don't care how many PPM $ you come up with, I don't think it would be enough.
Think about it, how many titles for each movie would you have to have to be able to rent them out, especially the new releases. I have no I idea, but maybe an average of 8 per title, more for the new releases and less for old. Take 8, times it by 4,000 = 32,000. Now that is a TON of movies.
IMO something else is in the works, maybe a partnership, deal with movie studio..... something. You don't just wave your magic wand and have 4,000 movies TITLES pop out of thin air. With plans to have 12,000 to compete with Netflix. My nose is smelling something.
This all speculation on my part, but makes sense to me.
Cheers
Mike
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Originally posted by jr:
any ideas on what we can expect from the next earnings report and how it will affect the pps? im not expecting anything great like a huge increase in subs or anything yet, its too early in the game. if anything, the expenses that go along with starting a game/dvd rental company might outweigh any profits which is only to be expected at this point for a company just starting out, and im sure anyone invested in this company for the longterm realizes that.. i just hope new investors dont abandon ship if gzfx isn't showing substantial profits yet. thoughts/comments?[This message has been edited by jr (edited February 13, 2004).]
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quote:ROFLOLLLL.....TOO MUCH.....HA HA HA!
Originally posted by scorpionet67:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by r.douglas:
[b]i agree....i had to choose between buying a dior bag for my girlfriend for val-day and getting more gzfx. I got 30k more gzfx. she'll thank me in the long run.hahaaaa
[/B][/QUOTE]
quote:
Originally posted by scorpionet67:
YO M_H!..YOU HAVE BEEN USING SARCASM ON BOTH THE BOARDS(THIS ONE AND DINCING WITH BULLS)..TAKE IT EASY..i KNOW THAT IT'S FRUSTRATING TO HEAR RUMOURS LEFT AND RIGHT..BUT YA GOTTA LIVE AND LET LIVE ON THIS ONE..OK BUDDY....TAKE CARE.
Hmmm, I am speechless. Sarcasm is my savior. Curious as to what post offended you on Dancing with Bulls? - Marty
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
Hmmm, I am speechless. Sarcasm is my savior. Curious as to what post offended you on Dancing with Bulls? - Marty
it's over..back to GZFX :-)
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"if you keep doin' what you doin' you'll keep gettin' what you gettin'!!!
quote:
Originally posted by scorpionet67:
it's over..back to GZFX :-)
"God bless each and every one of us" -
To use the above example of 32,000 individual copies, if it's $100 per copy that comes out to $3,200,000. However I strongly suspect that business isn't done that way anymore. If it's $10 per disc then we get $320,000 which is a lot more reasonable.
Personally I never thought of the actual cost of the titles, physically, to be too significant.
Thoughts?
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Originally posted by Wooter:
Pretty much agree with this statement. Not sure what to expect from from earnings.On the other hand we do have the PPM's total to take into account. Also, to me, there is something else going on with funding. To run a rental business and have 4,000 movie titles you would need a boatload of money and I don't care how many PPM $ you come up with, I don't think it would be enough.
Think about it, how many titles for each movie would you have to have to be able to rent them out, especially the new releases. I have no I idea, but maybe an average of 8 per title, more for the new releases and less for old. Take 8, times it by 4,000 = 32,000. Now that is a TON of movies.IMO something else is in the works, maybe a partnership, deal with movie studio..... something. You don't just wave your magic wand and have 4,000 movies TITLES pop out of thin air. With plans to have 12,000 to compete with Netflix. My nose is smelling something.
This all speculation on my part, but makes sense to me.
Cheers
Mike
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You said: "Personally I never thought of the actual cost of the titles, physically, to be too significant."
I am not 100% sure what you meant by this, can you please explain?
quote:
Originally posted by sopclod:
This raises a question that I have been wondering about. I know that in the heyday of VHS that rental places paid a lot more per tape than we paid when they came to store shelves (like almost $100). I also know that if GameznFlix does things like Netflix, when you get a movie you get just the disc. So what I'm wondering is how much they pay per copy of each title.To use the above example of 32,000 individual copies, if it's $100 per copy that comes out to $3,200,000. However I strongly suspect that business isn't done that way anymore. If it's $10 per disc then we get $320,000 which is a lot more reasonable.
Personally I never thought of the actual cost of the titles, physically, to be too significant.
Thoughts?
quote:
Originally posted by Wooter:
I *THINK* I heard that Netflix has some kind of deal worked out where they get discounted movies but pay a percentage royalty back to the movie house or producer or whatever you call it.
I would think GnF would have to do something similar to come up with that amount of titles.You said: "Personally I never thought of the actual cost of the titles, physically, to be too significant."
I am not 100% sure what you meant by this, can you please explain?
I just mean that it's not a huge outlay of money to aquire some DVDs. No they're not free, but compared to other expenses involved with running the business, and getting it off the ground, it is relatively trivial. Of course this depends a lot on how much they actually pay for titles.
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RENT ALL THE VIDEO GAMES YOU WANT, KEEP THEM AS LONG AS YOU WANT, NO LATE FEES.
I went in, and in the games section big sign:
$14.95 A MONTH ONE GAME AND $19.95 A MONTH TWO GAMES, KEEP AS LONG AS YOU WANT, NO LATE FEES EVER!
I asked the kid behind the counter about it and he told me that this store (Albany, Oregon) was one of a few test stores to see how well it would work. If it works out for them, they will expand to ALL stores, nationwide.
Looks like we may have some people kind of worried. <grin>
One thing that someone mentioned a while back is that Netflix thinks there is still a lot of room for the online rental business to grow. I think that traditional B&M rental stores are, for the most part, competition; i.e. they are "taking" our business. I think there is a little more business total, but B&M stores will start shrinking as this new online model takes more and more of their business.
Now the only question is, who will prosper and who will fail. If GameznFlix can get its ass in gear and get a games and movies rental program going, I think the sky's the limit.
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Originally posted by sopclod:
Interesting.One thing that someone mentioned a while back is that Netflix thinks there is still a lot of room for the online rental business to grow. I think that traditional B&M rental stores are, for the most part, competition; i.e. they are "taking" our business. I think there is a little more business total, but B&M stores will start shrinking as this new online model takes more and more of their business.
Now the only question is, who will prosper and who will fail. If GameznFlix can get its ass in gear and get a games and movies rental program going, I think the sky's the limit.
j160e
Regards,
Mike
quote:
Originally posted by j160e:
Hi folks, I thought I'd give my 2 shares worth, I mean 2 cents worth on the dvd topic. Yes, Netflix has revenue sharing agreements with more than 50 studios and distributors to obtain titles for lower initial costs in exchange for sharing of subscription revenues for a defined period of time, generally 1 year. This allows for the acquisition of more copies of each title. Someone said something of 8 copies of each title but I would think there would have to be a lot more than that. Netflix has 15,000 titles on over 5.1 million dvd's at ~25 distribution centers. I realize there must be more copies of some titles than others but just a simple average of the above says 340 copies per title which would then reduce to maybe 14 copies per dc. My guess is if we will open with 4000 titles as we've heard, then how about at least 400,000 dvd's. That would be 50 copies per dc at present. Purely speculation on my part. I guess we will find out soon enough.j160e
The Company acquires DVDs from studios and distributors either via direct purchase or subject to revenue sharing agreements. These revenue sharing agreements enable the Company to acquire DVDs at a lower upfront cost than under the direct purchase arrangements. Under the revenue sharing agreements, the Company pays a percentage of the actual net revenues generated by the use of each particular title with the studios over a fixed period of time, which is generally 12 months for each DVD title (hereinafter referred to as the “Title Term”). At the end of the Title Term, the Company typically has the option of either returning the DVD title to the studio or purchasing the title.
Under certain revenue sharing agreements, the Company remits an upfront payment to acquire titles from the studios. This payment includes a contractually specified initial fixed license fee that is capitalized and amortized in accordance with the Company’s DVD library amortization policy. Some payments also include a contractually specified prepayment of future revenue sharing obligations that is classified as “Prepaid revenue sharing expenses” in the Company’s Balance Sheets and is charged to expense as future revenue sharing obligations are incurred.
quote:
Originally posted by Wooter:
That is good information to know. Thanks for the knowledge.Regards,
Mike
quote:
Originally posted by Schnauzer:
I just came in from doing my weekly shopping, etc. Drove by our local Hollywood Video and slammed on the brakes and went back. BIG SIGN on the window:RENT ALL THE VIDEO GAMES YOU WANT, KEEP THEM AS LONG AS YOU WANT, NO LATE FEES.
I went in, and in the games section big sign:
$14.95 A MONTH ONE GAME AND $19.95 A MONTH TWO GAMES, KEEP AS LONG AS YOU WANT, NO LATE FEES EVER!
I asked the kid behind the counter about it and he told me that this store (Albany, Oregon) was one of a few test stores to see how well it would work. If it works out for them, they will expand to ALL stores, nationwide.
Looks like we may have some people kind of worried. <grin>
What it will come down to is selection......these stores cant come close to touching Netflix/ Gameznflix inventory.
Point me to a rental store that carries 15000 DVD titles, and/or 1000-4000 games!! LOL
Worried???
NEVER!!!
Online rentals will destroy all B&M rental stores.
It will also come down to convinence. And last time I checked.....its easier for kids to rent online rather than the parents driving them to the video store all the time.
quote:
Originally posted by delt16:
...Online rentals will destroy all B&M rental stores...
You are so right. Brick and Mortar are not the future, whether the public wants it or not. The future is online, lower overhead equals larger selection, no late fees, and the convenience of home delivery. -
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Originally posted by j160e:
Hi folks, I thought I'd give my 2 shares worth, I mean 2 cents worth on the dvd topic. Yes, Netflix has revenue sharing agreements with more than 50 studios and distributors to obtain titles for lower initial costs in exchange for sharing of subscription revenues for a defined period of time, generally 1 year. This allows for the acquisition of more copies of each title. Someone said something of 8 copies of each title but I would think there would have to be a lot more than that. Netflix has 15,000 titles on over 5.1 million dvd's at ~25 distribution centers. I realize there must be more copies of some titles than others but just a simple average of the above says 340 copies per title which would then reduce to maybe 14 copies per dc. My guess is if we will open with 4000 titles as we've heard, then how about at least 400,000 dvd's. That would be 50 copies per dc at present. Purely speculation on my part. I guess we will find out soon enough.j160e
I think you have been watching too many episodes of Batman with the Riddler. Just kidding there Doc. I think what you are saying is that anyone including the new investors in GZFX can get a lot of their questions asked by calling Equity-Link at 1-877-788-1940. I am assunming that is what you are saying in a very round about way. Have a good weekend everyone and enjoy St. Valentines day. Mac
I emailed a bunch of you mainly chrissy, drwright, and brada777 right before leaving for vacation. Can't a human being go on vacation anymore without people saying that he sold out or he's another magoo? LOL
Seriously, some of you should really get some vacation too! LOL
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If anyone has any ideas on what to say in an email that might get their attention please post.
We shouldn't try to beat John on his promotion campagne. Be sure to ask John first, maybe he has a plan where this does not fit in (yet).
Just my thoughts
ws
quote:
Originally posted by JAYBIRD:
I wondering if it would help if we sent emails to newspapers to inquire about GZFX. I was thinking of contacting the business or money sections and somehow bringing GZFX to their attention.If anyone has any ideas on what to say in an email that might get their attention please post.
That is a very good idea. I live right in Seattle and I am going to get a hold of the Seattle Times and let them know about an up and coming company in an up and coming industry. I think we should all do this. Before though maybe we should contact John and make sure that is ok. I am off to see... Mac
I wasn't thinking of promoting it but just inquiring to see if they have heard of a competitor to netflix that carries games too in hopes that it may spark an article in the paper.
And no I wouldn't want to do anything to mess up the companies plans.
The newspaper idea is a go:
"Go Forth! More the word gets out the greater growth."
That is John's reply to my email inquiring about going to local newspapers with a story about the company. They could put the story in the money section, the entertainment section, the whatever section. I am 31 years old so not in college anymore. Not really able to leave flyers all around a campus. This is going to be my contribution. I am going to get a hold of every ****ing newspaper that will listen to me and see if we can get some exposure. Imagine the possibilities of getting not only new subscribers but new investors as well. I would advise anyone else that is looking for something to do to take on this endeavor. I know we have investors that live all over the U.S., Canada, and Europe. John said we could use his name and contact info so that the reporter of the paper could get some good information about the company. Alright enough rambling. I have a Valentine waiting for me to get my arse of this computer. Later, Mac
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Originally posted by tommy:
Hey guys, just got back from vacation, will try to catch up here!
Welcome back LOL...i guessed u did a lot of LOL during your vaction.
VeeHappy
quote:
Originally posted by VeeHappy:
Welcome back LOL...i guessed u did a lot of LOL during your vaction.VeeHappy
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Sniff, Sniff.
Superduperpoopersnoooper
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Originally posted by superduperpoopersnoooper:
..Can not seem to find them anywhere. Don't want the SEC investigating this now do we.
You are going to have to do much better than that. -
http://knobias.10kwizard.com/filing.php?repo=tenk&ipage=2550075&doc=1&total=&b ack=2&g=&attach=on
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Ow Ow Ow!
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Originally posted by tommy:
Hey guys, just got back from vacation, will try to catch up here!
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If anyone has any wording that they think will help let us know.
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try to get us on national television...
look what it did for IBZT and DNAP...
pres
Did anyone see the new website? I just checked and they had one launched, and as soon as I clicked on a link, it disappeared and went back to the old PGHI site. I was so excited, I forgot to hit print screen to capture the look of the site.
I suppose it is only a matter of time and we will be completing for DVD's!
Isn't this great?!?
Ever wondered to yourself what it would have been like to have gotten in on the ground floor of a new company that was being traded on the open market, one whose shares were so cheap you could afford to buy 500,000 shares, a company like IBM, Microsoft, Intel, Netflix? You would have so much money today your decendants for 100 years wouldn't have to work. Ok, I have a possibility for you. A very GOOD possibility. A new company which will be cashing in on the online rental business just like Netflix has done. Remember how most people thought something like Netflix was going to fall flat on its face, the company that just had its first stock split and closed at $35.54 on friday?
Right now this new company is renting video games for X-Box, Playstation 2 and Gamecube. They just launched a new web site, and in the next few months they will expand into the DVD rental business with 4000 titles available and 12,000 titles soon after. One stop shopping for DVD and video game rental, no late fees, $19.95 a month for 2 games at a time. Here are a few recent PR's:
(please note that the company, Point Group Holdings just had a name and symbol change to GameZnFlix, GZFX the first part of February)
Point Group Holdings and Legend Mobile Establish Joint Venture
Wednesday January 21, 6:30 am ET
FRANKLIN, KY and ANN ARBOR, MI--(MARKET WIRE)--Jan 21, 2004 -- Point Group Holdings, Incorporated (OTC BB: PGHI) and Legend Mobile (OTC BB: LGMB) today announced that they have reached a basic agreement that will create a joint venture between the two companies. The companies intend to collaborate on leveraging Legend Mobile's portfolio of entertainment relationships to develop and market Point Group's upcoming GameZnFlix.com online DVD and Game rental service.
The aim of the joint venture is to contribute Legend's expertise in the areas of entertainment marketing, licensing and branding, mobile advertising and stored value programs to the launch of Point Group Holdings' new online movie and game rental service to be known as GameZnFlix.com.
"I am excited to work with PGHI on this project. We look forward to contributing to the launch and success of this very competitive online rental service -- GameZnFlix.com," stated Peter Klamka, President of Legend Mobile.
In addition to the marketing efforts and strategy by Legend Mobile, Point Group Holdings will extend a credit facility to Legend Mobile of Five Hundred Thousand Dollars, and Mr. Klamka will also be joining Point Group Holdings' Advisory Board, which will be established in February 2004.
PGHI's CEO/President John Fleming stated, "We are fortunate to have the opportunity to work with Legend Mobile to bring GameZnFlix.com to the public, along with increasing our exposure of our online game rental company VeeGeeZ.com. The joint ventures we have planned will greatly assist our launch in February of GameZnFlix, as well as the future of both of the companies."
Since its inception in 1998, Legend Mobile has developed a number of commercial opportunities for celebrity brands in various new and traditional media. Mobile has been a pioneer in creating branded mobile products such as PDAs and mobile applications and accessories. Legend's work was highlighted in the industry study: "DoCoMo -- The Wireless Tsunami." Through its subsidiary, Legend Credit, the company creates stored value products such as gift cards and reloadable debit cards. Legend has worked with a range of world-recognized brands and personalities. In the past five years, Legend's work has included Claudia Schiffer, Christina Aguilera, Hilary Duff, NASCAR personalities, Disney Records, Nelly, and Mandy Moore. Additionally, Mr. Klamka has worked with Paramount Pictures, the rock group KISS, and major distributors in the pay-per-view television industry.
Point Group Holdings, Incorporated is a holding company which, through its subsidiaries, provides management services to businesses that have an operating history or can substantiate future performance in their respective industries. The Company participates in companies in various fields of business by providing executive-level managerial assistance as well as arranging for and contributing capital investment.
For more information, contact John Fleming, CEO, PGHI, at 001.270.598.0385 or e-mail ceo@pghi.biz or examine the following websites:
VeeGeeZ.com, a Subsidiary of Point Group Holdings Incorporated, Announces the Launch of Its Redesigned Website
Tuesday February 3, 6:30 am ET
FRANKLIN, KY--(MARKET WIRE)--Feb 3, 2004 -- VeeGeeZ.com, a subsidiary of Point Group Holdings, Incorporated (OTC BB: PGHI), an online Video Game Rental company, announced today that it has launched its redesigned website at www.veegeez.com.
CTO Lance Wiseman stated, "We, management at VeeGeeZ.com, believe the new design will set the standard for user interfaces in the online rental world. We have already begun work on Phase II of this project. It will further enhance the functionality and usability for our subscribers."
Point Group Holdings, Incorporated currently markets its video game rentals through its wholly owned subsidiary, www.VeeGeeZ.com and in the near future will be opening a new website www.GameZnFlix.com to offer both DVD movies and video game rentals. The company has currently has two distribution centers, Los Angeles, California and Franklin, Kentucky, with plans for an additional two to three more centers during 2004.
"This project at VeeGeeZ.com has been a major one and will add a great deal to our overall business model," stated John Fleming, CEO/President of Point Group Holdings, Incorporated. He continued, "The management team of VeeGeeZ and PGHI are looking forward to the upcoming Phase II of this project the adding of DVDs availability for our subscribers."
For more information contact Ron Garner at (877) 722-7340 or e-mail ron@equitilinkpr.com or examine the following websites:
Point Group Holdings, Incorporated: http://www.gameznflix.com
Veegeez.com, LLC: http://www.veegeez.com
(and the one below makes them an International company ... already)
Berlin Stock Exchange
FRANKLIN, KY -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 02/09/04 -- GameZnFlix, Inc. (OTC
BB: GZFX), formerly known as Point Group Holdings, Incorporated (OTC
BB: PGHI), an online video game rental company, announced today that
it has been granted permission to trade its shares on the Third
Market Segment of the Berlin Stock Exchange. The German trading
symbol will be "PQJ.BE" and the German securities code: (WKN) will be
164641.
GameZnFlix CEO John Fleming commented, "We are very pleased to have
been approved for trading on the Berlin Stock Exchange. The Berlin
Exchange should make buying and selling our shares less problematic
for German and European stockholders and should provide help to
assure improved liquidity in our common stock overall.
Mr. Fleming continued: "We are striving to enhance our corporate
visibility in Germany and expand our corporate presence to a broader
financial community throughout Europe. We believe this prestigious
platform will assure that our company story reaches a much larger
European audience. Additionally, we are looking forward to seeking a
company listing on the London Exchange later in 2004."
GameZnFlix, Inc. currently markets its video game rentals through its
wholly owned subsidiary, www.VeeGeeZ.com and in the near future will
be opening a new website www.GameZnFlix.com to offer both DVD movies
and video game rentals. The company has currently has two
distribution centers, Los Angeles, CA and Franklin, KY with plans for
an additional two to three more centers during 2004.
For more information contact John Fleming, CEO PGHI at
001.270.598.0385 or e-mail ceo@pghi.biz or examine the following
websites:
GameZnFlix, Inc.: http://www.gameznflix.com
Veegeez.com, LLC: http://www.veegeez.com
There are more, but I will leave it up to you whether or not you wish to pursue any further. This company has possibly the greatest potential of any one I have ever seen. When word finally gets out about them and how cheap the stock is at this point, the price won't stay down long. The video game industry is one of the biggest and fastest growing industries in the world. Priced at about $50 each for a new game, it is frustrating to buy one, only to get it home and either beat it in an hour, or simply not like it. Which makes something like this company very attractive to gamers. Try it before you buy it. And no late fees. Keep it as long as you like and then send it back in a pre-paid envelope. And in a few months, DVD's as well. And trading in Berlin and soon England ... well, I think you can see the great potential yourself.
Thank you for you kind attention.
I just sent this off to the Portland Oregonian and will be looking to find other Big newspapers across the country to email it to also. People see the potential in the company like we do and it will bring more subs and more investors. The company grows and we get stinking rich.
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Originally posted by tommy:
Hehe I didn't think about the stock once, I was too busy admiring the beautiful moutains of San Diego! I saw the damage from last year's fire and it's not a very pretty sight![This message has been edited by tommy (edited February 14, 2004).]
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Originally posted by budme:
you went to San Diego for your vacation? that's where im going for mine in 4 weeks! and then in 6 months im movin there! out of the Pacific NW rain and into the beautiful, sunny beaches of SD! can't wait.
Looks like they are doing good business thanks to everyone's efforts. The amount of titles available has dropped which means good business, but they might need to buy more titles to keep availability up.
What do you guys think?
we can end this quandry when we finally hear how many subs we really have. then we might as well have 90% in stock. that'll mean they just have a butt load of games in inventory and im all for that as long as they're pulling decent profit. pretty soon we're gonna know just what Gameznflix and Veegeez is all about. and we know its gonna be good.
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Originally posted by andykupe:
http://www.veegeez.com/help_adv.aspLooks like they are doing good business thanks to everyone's efforts. The amount of titles available has dropped which means good business, but they might need to buy more titles to keep availability up.
What do you guys think?
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If you own a Gameboy Advance SP that you don't play anymore, I am willing to make a deal with you. I am offering 3 months of advertising any site you want on the main page of VGDC for an even trade of the system. If you want to plug your site, your banner will be featured up above, and viewed by 8,500 people everyday (VGDC's hit average.) So if you have an unplayed Gameboy SP, and want tons of traffic to your site, here's your chance! Email me at randysolem@hotmail.com if you are interested in this $90 value. If you have a regular Gameboy Advance I will give you 2 months advertising. It does not matter what the system color is, as long as it is in good shape. SERIOUS INQUIRIES ONLY!
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Originally posted by tommy:
I was actually in Escondido, about 40 miles from SD. I was camping in Deer Park, it's simply a beautiful place!
It was scorching hot during the day and freezing cold at night, such an extreme in temperature!
That's a great area...U went to the heart
of the Avocado Capital of the world.Did u happened to stop by @ PALA Casino?He he he.
I live about an hour drive away....from Orange Hills.
GZFX will make us Rich
VeeHappy
Chrissy
1) Does any think that there could be a PR upcoming to confirm the advisory board including appointees and/or purpose of this board? I could only assume that it is for marketing!?!
From the Legend Mobile PR, they state:
"In addition to the marketing efforts and strategy by Legend Mobile, Point Group Holdings will extend a credit facility to Legend Mobile of Five Hundred Thousand Dollars, and Mr. Klamka will also be joining Point Group Holdings' Advisory Board, which will be established in February 2004."
2) Has anyone seen any online advertising yet? GZFX announced way back in Nov that they joined forces w/ Venture Direct, yet I have not seen a single ad yet. Is an online marketing campaign that difficult to put together? Nearly 3 1/2 months with nothing to show for it?
SAN DIEGO, CA--(MARKET WIRE)--Nov 5, 2003 -- Point Group Holdings, Incorporated (OTC BB: PGHI) announced that its subsidiary -- online video game rental company, VeeGeeZ.com, LLC -- has signed a contract with Venture Direct Worldwide of New York to handle its online marketing campaign. The experienced staff of Venture Direct Worldwide and VeeGeeZ management has developed a marketing plan to assist the company in moving to the next level.
oh yeah, go GZFX!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
I was actually in Escondido, about 40 miles from SD. I was camping in Deer Park, it's simply a beautiful place!
It was scorching hot during the day and freezing cold at night, such an extreme in temperature!
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Originally posted by Saving4KidsCollege:
Is this the GZFX board or a link to the travel channel? =)
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ooopss it was a sell by and insider not a buy!!!!FORM 4 UNITED STATES SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
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Great great great
GZFX GZFX GZFX will male us Rich!
PGHI RB board is out...Upgrading to GZFX?
VeeHappy
quote:
Originally posted by r.douglas:
what is the running on?!
Don't u know?
Don't worry...We all going to get rich.Go GZFX!!!!
VeeHappy
VeeHappy
quote:
Originally posted by TimN88:
Closed at 0.098. Im content with this. Its slowly inching its way back up to where i bought it, which was 0.1. Im in this one until it gets to about 0.2. All the competition GZFX faces is making me nervous. They arent advertising enough. They need to be like NetFlix if they want to get a good subscriber base. If i had a dollar for every NetFlix popup ad ive seen in the past month, id have like $50!
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
A little profit taking on the inside:
http://knobias.10kwizard.com/filing.php?repo=tenk&ipage=2613322&doc=1&total=&b ack=1&g=&attach=on
This has to be his salary? Why else would he sell. Last time was in November 2003 for 500,000 shares @ .022
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Originally posted by TimN88:
Closed at 0.098. Im content with this. Its slowly inching its way back up to where i bought it, which was 0.1. Im in this one until it gets to about 0.2. All the competition GZFX faces is making me nervous. They arent advertising enough. They need to be like NetFlix if they want to get a good subscriber base. If i had a dollar for every NetFlix popup ad ive seen in the past month, id have like $50!
I think you should get out sooner than later. GamezNflix has a long way to go to get deep pockets like Netflix has for advertising. I you think GZFX is going to pop to .20 soon, you have another thing coming. The competition is and will be Netflix and Gamefly. These guys are directly the best in the industry. When in time GamezNflix builds itself up and poises itself to take on both simultaneously, you can't expect this to happen over night. The PPS was .002 this past summer of 2003, so it has come along way in a very short time. The PPS can't constant;y just keep going up, it needs to retrace to fill the gaps it created from "popping". This is the best case scenario for building a strong PPS. - Marty
i'll eventually sell some myself, but will always hold on to some. im up 400% and haven't sold any yet. if anything, at least i hold some as an experiment
quote:
Originally posted by TimN88:
Closed at 0.098. Im content with this. Its slowly inching its way back up to where i bought it, which was 0.1. Im in this one until it gets to about 0.2. All the competition GZFX faces is making me nervous. They arent advertising enough. They need to be like NetFlix if they want to get a good subscriber base. If i had a dollar for every NetFlix popup ad ive seen in the past month, id have like $50!
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
I think you should get out sooner than later. GamezNflix has a long way to go to get deep pockets like Netflix has for advertising. I you think GZFX is going to pop to .20 soon, you have another thing coming. The competition is and will be Netflix and Gamefly. These guys are directly the best in the industry. When in time GamezNflix builds itself up and poises itself to take on both simultaneously, you can't expect this to happen over night. The PPS was .002 this past summer of 2003, so it has come along way in a very short time. The PPS can't constant;y just keep going up, it needs to retrace to fill the gaps it created from "popping". This is the best case scenario for building a strong PPS. - Marty
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Originally posted by tommy:
Why are you telling him to get out sooner than later?
For the sole fact they do not have the patients to with stand the long term.
Next question.
This one is for you Tommy. Did you or did you not say when the last S-8 requested for a additional 100 million authorized shares, John Fleming was not going to issue any out of that 100 million. That one of the reasons it was there, was for a preventative of a take-over? Just a simple question, do not make it any more than that. - Marty
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
For the sole fact they do not have the patients to with stand the long term.Next question.
This one is for you Tommy. Did you or did you not say when the last S-8 requested for a additional 100 million authorized shares, John Fleming was not going to issue any out of that 100 million. That one of the reasons it was there, was for a preventative of a take-over? Just a simple question, do not make it any more than that. - Marty
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The S-8 is registration IT DOES NOTHING TO THE OUTSTANDING TOTAL.
It simply provides management with a way to pay for services at market price value vs. spending cash.
i.e. Attorney wants $10,000 for services At $.03 we could give him 333,333 S-8 Shares or a combination of cash and stock.
NONE OF THE S-8 SHARES HAVE BEEN SPENT ONLY RESERVED FOR USE
YOU CAN POST THIS E_MAIL
John Fleming
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Originally posted by tommy:
A bunch of us got worried about a possible dilution and we emailed him with the question about the 100M authorized and he did tell us that no dilution was going to happen anytime soon. That's as far as I know, that's all he said at the time the S-8 was filed.
I am sure you have seen this then....
02.17.2004 _____________
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 516,203,307
Float: 275,693,682
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
I am sure you have seen this then....02.17.2004 _____________
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 516,203,307
Float: 275,693,682
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Originally posted by tommy:
No I didn't, but thanks for the info. Personally I don't really care but others might so ask them, not me!
"A bunch of us got worried about a possible dilution and we emailed him with the question about the 100M authorized and he did tell us that no dilution was going to happen anytime soon..."
It bothered you then but it does not now? This was the only reason I posted because I thought this was a concern for you, and merely pointed this out. Oh well, we shall see in due time, who and what the shares are compensating. - Marty
That's why I'm saying that I'm less worried now. Of course dilution is never good per say, but if it's accounted for, then it's not that bad. Let's see where this is all going.
GLTA!
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
"A bunch of us got worried about a possible dilution and we emailed him with the question about the 100M authorized and he did tell us that no dilution was going to happen anytime soon..."It bothered you then but it does not now? This was the only reason I posted because I thought this was a concern for you, and merely pointed this out. Oh well, we shall see in due time, who and what the shares are compensating. - Marty
It appears to me that the S-8 shares are in fact being sold into the market. 5 Million shares between Feb 9th and Feb 17th, 5 Million shares between January 27th and Feb 9th, 5 Million between January 16th to January 27th....totalling just under 50 Million shares being added to the float since January 9th and roughly the same for increase in shares issued.
All of these numbers are based on data that you obtained from the transfer agent.
Tommy may not care about these issues, but roughly 1 million shares a day represents a significant percentage of shares traded.
Your thoughts???
On a separate note, what happened to the PGHI thread on RB...is it me or is it gone?
Cheers
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Originally posted by Gonnaplode:
Marty,It appears to me that the S-8 shares are in fact being sold into the market. 5 Million shares between Feb 9th and Feb 17th, 5 Million shares between January 27th and Feb 9th, 5 Million between January 16th to January 27th....totalling just under 50 Million shares being added to the float since January 9th and roughly the same for increase in shares issued.
All of these numbers are based on data that you obtained from the transfer agent.
Tommy may not care about these issues, but roughly 1 million shares a day represents a significant percentage of shares traded.
Your thoughts???
On a separate note, what happened to the PGHI thread on RB...is it me or is it gone?
Cheers
Yes, as I noted in my last post to tommy it is a concern. I have watched this on a weekly basis and since the 7th of February the issued shares have increased 34 million. Mind you it is not a going concern at this point for me to worry. It will be questioned.
The PGHI has changed on Raging Bull to GZFX.BB, Until next time. - Marty
76.53% of games in stock right now! 57.35% of new releases in stock right now!
New releases were 80% this morning. The site is really dragging lately as well. This is good news and bad news. Good news cause subs are growing rapidly. Bad news because we aren't keeping up. I sent Lance an email about the sluggish site. We'll see what he says. IMO, Need to add more servers.
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PGHI has already established an online videogame rental service through its 18-month-old Web site veegeez.com, which will be incorporated into gameznflix.com next month. Fleming would not disclose how many subscribers use veegeez.com.
sorry if you all noticed this already, but to me, that pretty much sums up the JF's plan - you should be able to rent dvds and games from GameZnflix.com, which is still tied in with Veegeez.com. It's just that you'll only be able to rent games from Veegeez.com, no dvds. There will probably be some sort of link and what not that will take you to GameZnflix if you want the dvd/game package. If this is the plan, im sure JF and team has decided it is the most cost-effective way to do things. i apoligize to anyone else that has already posted a similar solution (i know you have tommy, i think). mainly i just wanted to highlight the excerpt that seems to explain the confusion. ok, im done. we can talk about bigger and better things now.
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which will be incorporated into gameznflix.com next month.
we WILL be seeing a pr or 2 by the end of the month. at least we damn well better. things are cookin
good luck all
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Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Holy crap! Check out the inventory stats...76.53% of games in stock right now! 57.35% of new releases in stock right now!
New releases were 80% this morning. The site is really dragging lately as well. This is good news and bad news. Good news cause subs are growing rapidly. Bad news because we aren't keeping up. I sent Lance an email about the sluggish site. We'll see what he says. IMO, Need to add more servers.
It doesn't matter what % the new releases are in. You have to focus on the total games in stock. The % of new releases can change drastically just by people returning older releases for new releases. If the % of total games in stock, drops severly, then it would cause excitement. That would mean that the number of subs. has risen.
I like your idea about presenting the "fund raising" idea to organizations that normally do fundraising, such as schools. Since VeeGeeZ will offer $5 per referral, seems a good source of grabbing more subscribers. You may want to share that with JF.
Cheers!
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Originally posted by phantom1107:
IgnorantBliss,I like your idea about presenting the "fund raising" idea to organizations that normally do fundraising, such as schools. Since VeeGeeZ will offer $5 per referral, seems a good source of grabbing more subscribers. You may want to share that with JF.
Cheers!
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Good looking out PSU90. Thank you.
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MONDAY , FEBRUARY 23, 2004 06:30 AM
FRANKLIN, Ky., Feb 23, 2004 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- GameZnFlix, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: GZFX) (Berlin: PQJ.BER WKN: 164641), an online DVD and video game subscriber service, announced today that it has been granted permission to trade its shares on the Third Market Segment of the Frankfurt Stock Exchange. The German trading symbol will be "PQJ.FSE" and the German securities code: (WKN) will be 164641.
GameZnFlix CEO, John Fleming commented, "We are very pleased to have been approved for trading on the Frankfurt Stock Exchange. Being Dual-listed on both the Frankfurt and Berlin Stock Exchanges should increase the profile of GameZnFlix with both private and institutional investors in Germany and across Europe as we continue to expand our European presence. The listing on the Frankfurt Stock Exchange is timely as I will be in Germany in mid-March to meet with European industry specialists who have expressed interest in our company."
The Frankfurt Stock Exchange:
The FWB Frankfurter Wertpapierborse is the world's third largest organized Exchange-trading market in terms of turnover and dealings in securities. It accounts for more than 75 percent of the total securities turnover in Germany and is therefore the most important of the eight German stock exchanges. The public guarantor of the FWB is the Deutsche Borse AG whose duty it is to ensure the full viability of trading in securities. With the support of state- of-the-art computer-based trading, processing and information systems the Frankfurt Stock Exchange has been able to keep pace with the ever-increasing demands of the international stock market business. There is a full spectrum of computerized security trading available through Xetra(R) in addition to the traditional floor trading. Xetra(R) was established in November 1997 and has enabled the FWB to consolidate its existing competitive edge and create an attractive framework for international investors and market participants. The cosmopolitan atmosphere Frankfurt enjoys is demonstrated in the membership structure of the stock market where more than 70 foreign banks and financial service companies are counted among the total of more than 330 members.
GameZnFlix, Inc. currently markets its video game rentals through its wholly owned subsidiary, www.VeeGeeZ.com and in the near future will be opening a new website www.GameZnFlix.com to offer DVD movies, video game rentals and other entertainment projects. The company has currently has two distribution centers, Los Angeles, California and Franklin, Kentucky. The business model plans for an additional two to three more distribution centers within the United States and the opening of GameZnFlix in the United Kingdom during 2004.
For more information contact John Fleming (270) 598-0385 or visit the following websites:
GameZnFlix, Inc.: http://www.gamezflix.com
Veegeez.com, LLC: http://www.veegeez.com
Certain statements in this news release may contain forward-looking information within the meaning of Rule 175 under the Securities Act of 1933 and Rule 3b-6 under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, and are subject to the safe harbor created by those rules. All statements, other than statements of fact, included in this release, including, without limitation, statements regarding potential future plans and objectives of the company, are forward- looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. There can be no assurance that such statements will prove to be accurate and actual results and future events could differ materially from those anticipated in such statements. Technical complications that may arise could prevent the prompt implementation of any strategically significant plan(s) outlined above. The company cautions that these forward looking statements are further qualified by other factors including, but not limited to those, set forth in the company's Form 10-KSB filing and other filings with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission (available at www.sec.gov). The company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any statements in this release, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.
SOURCE GameZnFlix, Inc.
CONTACT: John Fleming, CEO and President of GameZnFlix, Inc.,
+1-270-598-0385
URL: http://www.gamezflix.com http://www.prnewswire.com
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Originally posted by TimN88:
IT doenst seem like yesterdays news had much of an effect. What we need is news about the new webstie, or news that there are tons of new subcribers (which there arent.)
What are you talking about? Have you even gone to the website lately and checked the inventory of games, especially the new releases. They are going out like hotcakes. How can you make that statement about not having a lot of new subscribers? You have no idea. Don't you have a class to go to right now? Get, go to school. Mac
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Originally posted by Mac the Knife:
Tim,What are you talking about? Have you even gone to the website lately and checked the inventory of games, especially the new releases. They are going out like hotcakes. How can you make that statement about not having a lot of new subscribers? You have no idea. Don't you have a class to go to right now? Get, go to school. Mac
HAHHAHAAA.....go to school, Mac you're hilarious! Thanks, I needed a laugh, I'm bleeding to death