Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Wow, this board is shiny and clean
May it bring as much good fortune and DD as the old one! May it bring as much good fortune and DD as the old one!
I must be the poor guy here.
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Originally posted by lynnp:
20k @ .044I must be the poor guy here.
GLTA!
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Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Wow, this board is shiny and clean
GLTA!
Thanks!
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Originally posted by drwright68:
toomy, do you have a synopsis of PGHI to post for the newbies?
Take a good look at this stock ... PGHI, i have been watching it for some time now and I think this could be at the doors of a breakout soon, maybe next week, please read this information I copied from another board. Always do your DD first before taking any action, but i think this could be an opportunity, but again do your own DD.
The first significant development is a corporate name change to GameZNflix Inc. How significant is this? This demonstrates to the shareholder that PGHI is extremely focused on the success of it’s online business to the extent that they are developing much of their current business model around it’s success. "When you review companies like NetFlixdotcom and apply a similar model to Veegeezdotcom it is easy to see the potential of our new subsidiary." President John Fleming continued, "We feel there is a great upside for our shareholders with this acquisition."
Should shareholders be excited? Absolutely! Afterall Netflix pulled off a dot-com IPO and reached profitability faster than anyone predicted. Netflix shares have taken a “gigantic leap” in less than 2 years from $4 to $60. Is itn't unreasonable to assume that GameZNflix shareholders will realize substantial gains from it’s current trading level
A second significant development is the launch of a new web site designed by Roy Vella, Web & Print Design Service. Lance Wiseman, CTO states, "The signing of this contract begins the next phase of VeeGeeZdotcom's business plan to provide enhanced services to its customers. In addition, the new design will not only meet our current video game rental customer base it will setup our expansion into the DVD rental world"
Did he say DVD? A third significant development which will become a much more significant factor in the success of the current business model is the addition of DVD’s to it’s current business model.
The expectation for the launch of online DVD rentals combined with it’s current Online Gaming Rental business is extremely significant. After all Netflix currently does not offer or market Online Video Game Rentals! It will be much more convenient for America to have an subscription service that caters to families that desire both a DVD and Video Game Rental Service! Will this increase the number of people that subsribe to their service? Yes! Will this increase shareholder value? Absolutely!
CANDLESTICK CHARTING PATTERNS
ASCENDING TRIANGLE PATTERN OCCURING
BREAKOUT IMMINENT
(Link Provided)
Let's talk about the ASCENDING TRIANGLE... This pattern is occuring here and will eventually lead to our BREAKOUT...
On the ascending triangle, the horizontal line represents overhead supply that prevents the security from moving past a certain level. It is as if a large sell order has been placed at this level and it is taking a number of weeks or months to execute, thus preventing the price from rising further. Even though the price cannot rise past this level, the reaction lows continue to rise. It is these higher lows that indicate increased buying pressure and give the ascending triangle its bullish bias.
.05 has been resistance on two previous occassions. Reaction lows continue to rise. When we have our final base established at .04 and our new name change and web site are released.... OUR ASCENDING TRIANGLE PATTERN will lead to a BREAKOUT.
Also keep in mind.... as I've stated before. Because we have no previous buyers above .05... theres is ZERO upside resistance which means the BREAKOUT will be significantly stronger than most anticipate.
.10 and beyond will be here soon."
GL2all
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Originally posted by tommy:
drwright68, do you have one handy that I can use?Thanks!
J
Found this on Allstocks by machtabow2
BY MACH December 16, 2003
TECHNICAL ANALYSIS & SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENTS
There is no question that mass psychology has an impact on a stock’s price: Prices are driven by emotions, mainly greed and fear. Technical analysis incorporates price action and volume to produce a blueprint of where a stock has been and where it may go. It traces the emotional extremes of the bulls and the bears to produce clues as to where the greed of fear is the strongest. Knowing how to spot repeating price patterns in the market will provide you with a valuable advantage.
Great traders have proven time and again that they can consistently win by speculating when the odds are in their favor. Whether you have used or desire not to use technical analysis is insignificant. We all use different trading strategies as we make our investment decisions.
What is significant is the fact that many individuals use technical analysis as an indication of (1) Whether to enter a position (2) When to Enter a position (3) And when to exit a position.
A common pattern thoughout the market is that technicians are often the the first to enter a position followed by the general market and momentum traders.
So what do the technicians see happening with PGHI lately? And what will technicians do?
Williams%R & Fast Stochaistics have now signaling that PGHI is moving into oversold territory. During the prior moves into oversold territory in Mid September and mid November PGHI gained several 100%’s gains in the following days after several consecutive days of consolidation. Slow Stochaistics for PGHI indicate that it may trade “sideways” in oversold territory for a few more days(Strong news could change this.) One could speculate based on prior trends that PGHI will likely make a similar move in the near future from the current oversold position and reward current shareholders with a 100%/200%/300% gain or more.
What will technicians be doing during the next few days? Accumulation. (See attached chart) http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=PGHI,uu[m,a]daclyyay[db][pb50!b200][vc60][iUi14,3!Lk14]&pref=G
That’s great if technical analysis were always 100% accurate, but it isn’t. We need to dig a little deeper and discover whether there are any significant developments within the company that will support and substantiate such a move.
SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENTS
So what are the significant developments occurring now and will they impact shareholder value in the near future?
The first significant development is a corporate name change to GameZNflix Inc. How significant is this? This demonstrates to the shareholder that PGHI is extremely focused on the success of it’s online business to the extent that they are developing much of their current business model around it’s success. "When you review companies like NetFlix.com, and apply a similar model to Veegeez.com it is easy to see the potential of our new subsidiary." President John Fleming continued, "We feel there is a great upside for our shareholders with this acquisition."
Should shareholders be excited? Absolutely! Afterall Netflix pulled off a dot-com IPO and reached profitability faster than anyone predicted. Netflix shares have taken a “gigantic leap” in less than 2 years from $4 to $60. Is itn't unreasonable to assume that GameZNflix shareholders will realize substantial gains from it’s current trading level of .026!
A second significant development is the launch of a new web site designed by Roy Vella, Web & Print Design Service. Lance Wiseman, CTO states, "The signing of this contract begins the next phase of VeeGeeZ.com's business plan to provide enhanced services to its customers. In addition, the new design will not only meet our current video game rental customer base it will setup our expansion into the DVD rental world"
Did he say DVD? A third significant development which will become a much more significant factor in the success of the current business model is the addition of DVD’s to it’s current business model.
The expectation for the launch of online DVD rentals combined with it’s current Online Gaming Rental business is extremely significant. After all Netflix currently does not offer or market Online Video Game Rentals! It will be much more convenient for America to have an subscription service that caters to families that desire both a DVD and Video Game Rental Service! Will this increase the number of people that subsribe to their service? Yes! Will this increase shareholder value? Absolutely!
GREAT EXPECTATIONS
Upon completion of both the final name change and new web site you can expect a much stronger focus on marketing and an increase in subscriptions. On November 5, 2003, PGHI announced that its subsidiary -- online video game rental company, VeeGeeZ.com, LLC -- has signed a contract with Venture Direct Worldwide of New York to handle its online marketing campaign. The experienced staff of Venture Direct Worldwide and VeeGeeZ management has developed a marketing plan to assist the company in moving to the next level.
The success of many company is more often than not the direct result of the success of it’s marketing campaign. How successful will it be? Why don’t we ask some of Venture Direct Worldwide’s current clients which include: Adobe, Microsoft, Citigroup, AT&T, Intel, Xerox, Fortune Magazine and many other successful companies. Do I need to elaborate?
(See attached link:http://www.venturedirect.com/html/vdw_clients.htm)
TIME FRAME
How close are we to seeing these developments significantly impact shareholder value? Current indications are that it will be VERY SOON!
Here are the steps leading to the name change:
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1. File a Prelim Proxy (Pre 14a) - DONE
2. Followed by a Definitive Proxy Filing (Def 14a) - DONE
3. Followed by a Prelim Information Statement Filing - (Pre 14c) - DONE
Only 2 steps left before name change and 5 left before new trading symbol:
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4. Followed by a Definitive Information Statement Filing (Def 14c) -
5. Followed by a mailing by our Transfer Agent to shareholders of record
6. Followed by the actual name change
7. Followed by Request for a new CUSIP#
8. Followed by a Request for a new trading symbol
9. Followed by the symbol being granted.
The new web site launch is also expected soon.
CHRISTMAS RALLY?
Historically, the days before and after Christmas and Thanksgiving holidays have produced above average returns with strong frequency numbers for the markets Both the frequency and gains for these two particular trading days have been far superior to market averages. (Time in Time Out, Thackray & Lindsay.). Although I had not applied this trading strategy to bb stocks in the past, I was pleasantly surprised to see that PGHI traded well in the “days” preceding Thanksgiving with a trend that produced substantial gains in the following days. Can we assume that a similar pattern will happen into the Christmas Holiday. Never underestimate the power of the market?
SUMMARY
While many of us have very different entry and exit strategies, it is always great to use a combination of trading strategies.
A combination of technical analysis and significant internal developments have been presented to you for your review. This is an extraordinary opportunity for substantial gains from current levels. The greatest “near-term” gains based on this analysis will likely be realized between December 23rd, 2003 and January 15th, 2004 with entry at current trading levels.
PERSONAL SUMMARY
For "long-term" investors, this is one of those lifetime opportunities that have the potential to substantially increase the value of your portfolio for years to come.
In the past I have missed to significant trading opportunities in which I could have gained "hundreds of thousands" of dollars with respect to potential investments. The reason I didn't was that I did not have the ability to hold onto shares and realize the full potential of my buying decision. I will not miss this opporunity again.
Remember that stocks do not move straight up or down. They move in trends and those whom are strategic, patient and confident in their positions are greatly rewarded. This has been proven time and time again. As always do your own DD and use your best judgement.
Looking for a significant Christmas GameZNflix Rally! Coming soon! mach
The symbol (ticker) change will happen within the next 19 days and MM's cannot be caught short on the stock or else it's a big fine from the SEC so they will not do any naked shorting and get caught. This in effect will make the PPS run even higher before and right after the change!
1. File a Prelim Proxy -- Done
2. Followed by a Definitive Proxy Filing -- Done
3. Followed by a Prelim Information Statement Filing -- Done
4. Followed by a Definitive Information Statement Filing -- Done
What's left:
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5. Followed by a mailing by our Transfer Agent to shareholders of record
6. Followed by the actual name change
7. Followed by Request for a new CUSIP#
8. Followed by a Request for a new trading symbol
9. Followed by the symbol being granted.
Looking at Level II, again the BID and ASK are both thin at .055x.056 so we'll either go up real fast to .065 or maybe retrace down to .05 depending on the trend and also MM's manipulation.
My guess is that we'll go up because we have strong hands here plus the MM's are now careful not to be caught short before the symbol change. They've been trying to cover for a few days now and have had a hard time doing so. Once they all cover, they will not risk being short within the next 19 days so we will see good movement.
GLTA!
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Originally posted by tommy:
akabob,had a hard time doing so. Once they all cover, they will not risk being short within the next 19 days so we will see good movement.
GLTA!
maybe i am wrong, i thought that i read that the name change was a five biz day process, then yesterday ( i think that it was you) someone said a twenty day. when i first heard the five day, all of the shorts should have been covered by now.
did i dream this? or how am i confused? trying to learn
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Originally posted by akabob:
maybe i am wrong, i thought that i read that the name change was a five biz day process, then yesterday ( i think that it was you) someone said a twenty day. when i first heard the five day, all of the shorts should have been covered by now.
did i dream this? or how am i confused? trying to learn
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Originally posted by diamond:
Hey TEAM,
I posted this on the other thread but I am checking in with a nice haul of 1,839,000 at an average of 0.02
Tommy, I'm trying to match your holdings. Don't look like I'm going to be able to touch Magoo and the gang though LOL!!
I'm very happy with my position. It will WITHOUT A DOUBT be a million dollar+++ position real soon IMO!!
Keep up the good work guys. BTW did you notice traffic at veegeez.com
People know the new website could be up any time now and when it does WHOOAAA NELLY!!
SEE YA
I'm VeeryHappy with my position too.A lot of us here will become Millionaire....ZOON.
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Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Wow, this board is shiny and clean
dz
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Originally posted by denzen:
OK, we now have 58 folks checked in with a combined total of 23,161,650 shares PGHI.
Anyone else willing let there shares be counted that haven't already done so?
Thanks to everyone so far that has had shares counted. I'm fasinated at the numbers.dz
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Originally posted by tommy:
denzen, I did a count 2 months ago too, it's a good hobby when you're addicted to PGHI and waiting for the next trading day!
Count me in for 510,000 LONG shares.
Good LUCK to US ALL.
Anybody an idea about this...
pres
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Originally posted by DiQuiRiesco:
When is the new website supposed to be up? They initially said by the new year, then said that wasn't feesable. It is not the 7th and still no new website....just wondering if anyone has any info.
When you refer to "they" whom are you speaking of? Thank you. -
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Originally posted by DiQuiRiesco:
The they I am referring to is obviously PGHI, soon to be GamezNFlix
No, it was not obvious. This is why I asked. I just don't see a PR quoting any statement of a new site being released at the first of the year. I have seen many of a posts, but nothing official from Point Group. - Marty
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Originally posted by clay1999:
Good morning everyone....I got my level II screen this morning boy O'boy I been reading up on it for a couple of days and it still looks confusing.... but I'll figure it out while I watch our PGHI go to the moon... I been following along for a long time... just don't have much to say I'm just the quiet one that listens and watches...you guys are doing great here
Clay
Clay
There are probably about 90% of the shareholders that do not post messages but read this thread. I for one am a newbie and don't know much but post when I feel that I am able to help out when I can.
I know that we have started counting how many shares we hold amoung the members on this thread. It wouldn't surprise me that it was double or more than we have a count for.
Good Luck
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Originally posted by tommy:
denzen, I did a count 2 months ago too, it's a good hobby when you're addicted to PGHI and waiting for the next trading day!
Thanks guys for all great DD!!
/
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Originally posted by clay1999:
I already put in my shares for counting thank you Mr. Magoo for the respond
Clay
also, a trade of 200 shares went through at 9:42 at .055 a share
hows the level II looking?
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Originally posted by penny_boy:
bid/ask is at .052x.054, last trade .052hows the level II looking?
.052 .054 with a last of .053 BUY -
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Originally posted by blizzard:
Why is the stock going down?
And why is the original crew (mach,mav,psu,cabbage....) gone from this thread?
Long & Strong - Marty
Common website!!
I can see that we have come up a bit now and will bluff the MM's if they try to drag us down again.
I am still holding strong and high on PGHI
Shake it, sh-shake it, shake it, oh hooo!
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Originally posted by chrissy_a:
Looks liek our investors are heading to the other stocks in play today, but dont worry PGHI is the real Play long term...hold strong people
No worries!
GLTA!
Remember, the old resistence becomes the new base in a breakout!
184K @ .031 average..
GL
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Originally posted by tommy:
We can't go up all the time, if you're wondering why a stock retraces and get scared, you're either a newbie or you shouldn't play the stock market!No worries!
GLTA!
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Ski
Walt
This kind of movement is normal, if you expect a stock to go up all the time then you need a reality check.
Look at the charts, this stock is very strong. Don't look at your account all the time, it's bad for your health anyway, it's called addiction!
GLTA!
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Any one know what a Acqusition of an LOI means
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Originally posted by slotplayer:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by BetNitAll:
[b]Any one know what a Acqusition of an LOI means
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Any one know what a Acqusition of an LOI means
LOI is a Letter Of Intent
GLTA!
100 > I need shares
200 > I need shares badly but dont take it down to get em
300 > Take the price down to get shares....
400 > Trade it sideways based on Supply and Demand
500 > Gap one way or the other, usually to the direction
of the 500 trade. Sometimes -if in the middle -keep the price right where it is.
GLTA!
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
MM SIGNAL 400100 > I need shares
200 > I need shares badly but dont take it down to get em
300 > Take the price down to get shares....
400 > Trade it sideways based on Supply and Demand
500 > Gap one way or the other, usually to the direction
of the 500 trade. Sometimes -if in the middle -keep the price right where it is.
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
MM SIGNAL 400100 > I need shares
200 > I need shares badly but dont take it down to get em
300 > Take the price down to get shares....
400 > Trade it sideways based on Supply and Demand
500 > Gap one way or the other, usually to the direction
of the 500 trade. Sometimes -if in the middle -keep the price right where it is.
http://www.bestwebbuys.com/video/dvdclub/id/0358
GLTA!
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Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Has anyone seen this?http://www.bestwebbuys.com/video/dvdclub/id/0358
Toll Free: 1-866-VeeGeeZ
The information I got was this...
If and when they do start to rent DVD's. They WILL NOT rent ADULT movies. Because it does not fit into the direction the company is moving in.
The young man that answered the phone was very polite and professional. I think any company would have been proud to have him working on the phonebank.
Anyone that has replied to my earlier post with a quote of the content. You may wish to edit it and remove the links I had in my post. So as not to spread the mis-information and cause confusion.
My apologies for any problem my earlier post may have caused. It was NOT my intent to mislead anyone.
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Let not the rich man glory in his riches.
[This message has been edited by PAUL (edited January 07, 2004).]
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Originally posted by PAUL:
I do NOT know if these links is PGHI or Vegeez!I followed the link above and decided to do a search or two. I remember a question the other day about "XXX" and PGHI.
Not bashing just passing some links from the site.
Everyone makes their own decissions, I make mine.
Paul
http://www.bestwebbuys.com/video/search.cfm?isrc=v-home-search&t=Title&q=xxx&f=dvd &x=27&y=12
http://www.bestwebbuys.com/video/search?isrc=v-srch-search&t=Title&q=adult&f=dvd
GLTA!
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Originally posted by clay1999:
Personaly I don't care... I'm in for the $$$$
We have had a nice day of sideways trading. This is not to say we won't test the support of .05. Who knows. But, what we do know is that good things are coming soon. Don't let the MM's shake you out with their headfakes.
PSU
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
I prefer shakeouts to going straight up- it consolidates the base, and gives me good entry. Already up on my intraday purchase!Remember, the old resistence becomes the new base in a breakout!
If you notice everytime there was hype about a possible pr the stock shot up (ex. prior to Dec. 9 pr), however when realizing the pr was not as positive as hoped the stock dropped to the mid .02 range, as weak hands began to panic sell. In this case, everyone epected a PR especially yesterday and today. However this has not occured as of yet, so more selling continues and weak hands get shaken out again. However i do not think we will hit the .03 range again, but perhaps the .05 as others have mentioned, as there seems to be strong support there by both the buyers and MM's. Subsequently, when a PR or postive news or rumour comes out, which will lead to higher volume I can easily see this stock breaking its resistance of .06.
[This message has been edited by djjunior (edited January 07, 2004).]
With the BTLY buzz this board has been asleep today!
But I'm sure we all still love PGHI
And if this company is able to complete at least half of the goals it has for itself, then we should be .30 to .50 in no time.....
[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited January 07, 2004).]
We can't become rich overnight, be patient guys!
GLTA!
GLTA!
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I am willing to bet the new website will be the first pr....2 weeks tops.....I am betting next week
And if this company is able to complete at least half of the goals it has for itself, then we should be .30 to .50 in no time.....[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited January 07, 2004).]
Take AFRR for example- they released frequent PR's, and pushed the stock down because they werent significant, and didn't have any new information.
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Slotplayer- does the stock even look like it needs a PR? Think about what you're saying, we had a PR on the 9th, and will probably have two this month. I'd rather have a couple significant developments than frequent repetitive junk PR's.Take AFRR for example- they released frequent PR's, and pushed the stock down because they werent significant, and didn't have any new information.
I thought my post was fairly well balanced. There have been significant developments. Would be nice to see them in print.
1) The new site is up - because the new site's structure will support both games and movies
2) They aquire DVD's through an existing firm or otherwise
The CEO would be the best to answer your question (ceo@pghi.biz).
GLTA!
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Originally posted by pegasus:
Back in the earlier thread someone mention VeeGeez was going to start renting DVD's also. Does anyone have any info on that? Thanks and everyone just be patient.
I think a lot will fall into place when the new website goes live. The website is obviously the major framework of the entire business. It's tough waiting for it, but at the same time, it needs to be right from the get go.
PSU
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Originally posted by pegasus:
Back in the earlier thread someone mention VeeGeez was going to start renting DVD's also. Does anyone have any info on that? Thanks and everyone just be patient.
j160e
Look at the past 6 weeks or so. With the exception of Dec 23 (Christmas buying, as mentioned by Mach earlier) , every tuesday has pretty much been a down day, and most wednesdays as well. I think the reason is because people are expecting (hoping) for a PR tuesday morning. When they dont have one, they sell and play with their money in other stocks for a few days, then come back in late thursday, friday, and even monday (in hopes of a PR release tues). Lets see if that happens again this week. I for one, think a PR could happen anyday of the week, and am not going to chance, and holding long. Just my opinion, could be wrong....keep the light on!!!
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Originally posted by djjunior:
This is what I think (IMHO)If you notice everytime there was hype about a possible pr the stock shot up (ex. prior to Dec. 9 pr), however when realizing the pr was not as positive as hoped the stock dropped to the mid .02 range, as weak hands began to panic sell. In this case, everyone epected a PR especially yesterday and today. However this has not occured as of yet, so more selling continues and weak hands get shaken out again. However i do not think we will hit the .03 range again, but perhaps the .05 as others have mentioned, as there seems to be strong support there by both the buyers and MM's. Subsequently, when a PR or postive news or rumour comes out, which will lead to higher volume I can easily see this stock breaking its resistance of .06.
[This message has been edited by djjunior (edited January 07, 2004).]
uncle milty
Patience will pay off big time, we're not talking months here but more like days and weeks to come!
GLTA!
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Originally posted by kcbudman:
Good point DJJUNIOR:Look at the past 6 weeks or so. With the exception of Dec 23 (Christmas buying, as mentioned by Mach earlier) , every tuesday has pretty much been a down day, and most wednesdays as well. I think the reason is because people are expecting (hoping) for a PR tuesday morning. When they dont have one, they sell and play with their money in other stocks for a few days, then come back in late thursday, friday, and even monday (in hopes of a PR release tues). Lets see if that happens again this week. I for one, think a PR could happen anyday of the week, and am not going to chance, and holding long. Just my opinion, could be wrong....keep the light on!!!
on another note... hold strong... once pr comes out we will see a new strong uptrend.
GLTA!
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Originally posted by stockguy04:
anybody know if pghi is going to buy this domain name.. http://www.pghi.com ... as of now it is up for auction.. i was just curious to see if anyone knew about it.. tommy or mach.. any ideas?on another note... hold strong... once pr comes out we will see a new strong uptrend.
Thanks,
Tommy
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Originally posted by clay1999:
Who's keeping count on the stocks we hold here?..... Do you have a up dated number we own? I was just thinking of it thats all..
Clay
Anyone can email me too.
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Tommy..
do you have an email address I can have...
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:-)
pres
It is not specified what the LOI really is but smart people will figure it out as us long term holders did!I suggest that the new investors email John and subscribe to the mailing list, that way you will get the latest development too!
GLTA!
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Originally posted by presumptuous:
Everybody getten John's mail...???:-)
pres
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Originally posted by tommy:
Yep and might I add that the future is VERY bright!I suggest that the new investors email John and subscribe to the mailing list, that way you will get the latest development too!
GLTA!
A little bit of a down day. That's only healthy as we loose some of the weaker hands and the strong hands realiseing what is going on here.
I believe that we will see the price bounce between .05 and .06 until we have the news which is short comming.
If you are thinking about selling then that's your choice but realise that this is a normal pattern which changes every day. The MM's know the value here and that is why they try to shake the tree and see what shares they can scare out of you. I am in this long with an very large amount of the shares.
I challenge anyone to find an OTCBB stock where the CEO/management care so much about their shareholders!
GLTA!
I emailed John and I received an email from him that I sent to two people....are you guys mistaking that email for a email list...
My name under my account is also John, so maybe thats where some confusion is.
Anywho.....can you forward me that email.
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Originally posted by presumptuous:
Everybody getten John's mail...???:-)
pres
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
pres....can you forward that email to me
anrservs@yahoo.comI emailed John and I received an email from him that I sent to two people....are you guys mistaking that email for a email list...
My name under my account is also John, so maybe thats where some confusion is.Anywho.....can you forward me that email.
Fozzy
[This message has been edited by fozzy (edited January 08, 2004).]
Thank you.
Anna
briggsmith@yahoo.com
Thanks,
Tommy
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Originally posted by tommy:
To those who are on PGHI's mailing list and got the email from the CEO today. Don't you just love PGHI's management and their CEO?I challenge anyone to find an OTCBB stock where the CEO/management care so much about their shareholders!
GLTA!
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Originally posted by fozzy:
Can I have it too, please? I am going to ask JF to put me on the list shortly. Thanks,Fozzy
pdc13@yahoo.com
I have spoken with John Flemming and he has reasured me of the good news and posts to come.
One of the key issues has been the timming of the releases. This is a point he had touched on. He is not able to announce the excat time until he is released to do so.
He has also asked me not to talk about what we spoke about so I cannot say anything about any details. Just letting everyone know that all is well and under control.
There are legal reasons for John Flemming not to post anything before he is clear to do so.
Good information to come which will push the value ahead. Don't miss out on this.
Magoo
It's great that you posted this.I believe part of the price drop came from peoples expectations of what was on this site.Although people mean well in their enthusiasm when they indicate that announcments will come in 2 weeks it actually indicates to me that I am not jumping in for 2 weeks.Why should I when I can jump in at a later date which is closer to the end of that 2 week period.It does not create a buying frenzy on the contrary you are telling people to wait cause it aint happening yet.The longs are not buying in anticipation and the day traders are waiting.So now we have a stagnant play.This is a problem.People were buying so they would not be left out when the news came and had no indication of when it would arrive but now they do not have to becuase we gave them a timeframe.Tommy stated in his earlier post we have given the MM's to much information and I totally agree.We have all in our enthusiasm put too much out there.Do not worry about posting timeframes..leave that to J.F.he knows best how to plan his attack and let PGHI run on its own merit....afterall it has done that for quite awhile.I have contacted J.F. and he is going to make everybody quite happy if all goes as planned.Lets not do anything
that will disrupt a plan that we really have never read.It is in our best interest.
Hey Raven this late nighter is for you!
TRSTURGUT-18
quote:
Originally posted by blizzard:
Has the captain Mach abandoned ship? That is sad, no captain abandons ship but Mach may have sold his position and moved on to btly for other suckers.....
quote:
Originally posted by blizzard:
Has the captain Mach abandoned ship? That is sad, no captain abandons ship but Mach may have sold his position and moved on to btly for other suckers.....
i know what you're saying... he use to preach about pghi everyday... now he just stopped completely... *weird* makes you wonder...
Now let's concentrate on the things to come for this stock and not who owns how much!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by blizzard:
Has the captain Mach abandoned ship? That is sad, no captain abandons ship but Mach may have sold his position and moved on to btly for other suckers.....
quote:
Originally posted by herm:
i know what you're saying... he use to preach about pghi everyday... now he just stopped completely... *weird* makes you wonder...
quote:
Originally posted by blizzard:
hey, Mach hyped about Pghi and hasnt posted on this thread. You as secretary of state stated you are in charge without anyone's permission. You took over thread but the good ole boys gone......lol
Go back to RB Blizard!!!!!!!!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
blizzard, no disrespect to Mach but it is nobody's ship in particular. A lot of us have been in the stock way before him and the people on Allstock.Now let's concentrate on the things to come for this stock and not who owns how much!
GLTA!
When I first bought in PGHI 3 months ago I was all hyped too and posted tons of stuff on RB like Mach did here. Now I take it easy and just assist the new investors instead of hyping the stock. This stock doesn't need hyping anymore, this stock is golden! GLTA!
Tommy
P.S. This is a new thread if you haven't noticed!
quote:
Originally posted by blizzard:
hey, Mach hyped about Pghi and hasnt posted on this thread. You as secretary of state stated you are in charge without anyone's permission. You took over thread but the good ole boys gone......lol
quote:
Originally posted by blizzard:
Yes Tommy, I realize this is a new thread.. Who asked you to be secretary of state and take Mach's turf? Start your own........
Tommy- could you send me that email? Thx.
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
What the hell is wrong with you? This place was nice before you showed up, you got a serious problem and the moderators will see it very soon! Enough said!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
kcbudman, I did, check your email.
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
What the hell is wrong with you? This place was nice before you showed up, you got a serious problem and the moderators will see it very soon! Enough said!
quote:
Originally posted by blizzard:
Yes Tommy, I realize this is a new thread.. Who asked you to be secretary of state and take Mach's turf? Start your own........
No need to pay any attention to this jerk. Like a bad smell he will go away
quote:
Originally posted by kcbudman:
Thanks Tommy- I am just ignoring him from now on too.
If someone believed in this stock, why would they abandon? Investors beware!
TRSTURGUT-18
I sent you an e-mail requesting a copy of the e-mail. Can you please forward it to me. I feel like Cinderrella before the ball...LOL
I e-mailed John but would prefer to not have to wait until tomorrow.
Cheers
quote:
Originally posted by blizzard:
Yes Tommy, I realize this is a new thread.. Who asked you to be secretary of state and take Mach's turf? Start your own........
Future looks bright, holding onto every share and adding when I can.
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow:
Mach is still here... One million shares and holding strong.... PGHI up for 10-12 days in a row... and suddenly its down a day or two and we see a basher on the board. Isn't that great. Much more to come! Go PGHI! As I've stated before guys... I'm trying to diversify and develop strong DD on other great stock picks. Take care all! Go PGHI! Keep up the great work! mach
Anyone who wants to still buy this stock just needs to do some research and look at the level II quotes as well as the letters from John. You will see this is still a great play.
We are dealing with pennies so anything can happen, but I will believe in this company's ability to reach higher levels...
And because of that belief I am going to put my money where my mouth is....I have been in contact with John through out the day and I am working out the details for a private placement......I most likely will wire the money in the morning....we are just fine tuning the details........I even got my wife's permission.
I encourage all to send what they can....the minimum is $2500. Since we all have a vested interest in this company, we should support it....I know there are some out here that can spare $2500.............
Looking forward to next year..........thank God for second chances to buy a stock at a super low price.....
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....thank God for second chances to buy a stock at a super low price.....[/B][/QUOTE]
Best Wishes
Anna
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I thought I should chime in with my two cents....glad to see we have new support at .050 to .051Anyone who wants to still buy this stock just needs to do some research and look at the level II quotes as well as the letters from John. You will see this is still a great play.
We are dealing with pennies so anything can happen, but I will believe in this company's ability to reach higher levels...
And becasause of that belief I am going to put my money where my mouth is....I have been in contact with John through out the day and I am working out the details for a private palcement......I most likely will wire the money in the morning....we are just fine tuning the details........I even got my wife's permission.
I encourage all to send what they can....the minimum is $2500. Since we all have a vested interest in this comapny, we should support it....I know there are some out here that can spare $2500.............
Looking forward to next year..........thank God for second chances to buy a stock at a super low price.....
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
There you are Mach, please tell blizzard that I didn't steal your thread!
quote:
Originally posted by blizzard:
Mach abandons ship and Tommy declares himself new sec of state...lolIf someone believed in this stock, why would they abandon? Investors beware!
If any member would like blizzard to be removed from the all stocks posts then go to the lower part of this page and click on the contact us link and voice your opinion,
I have already done so.
hope it helps,
Tommy
quote:
Originally posted by akabob:
in order to save myself some time, b/c i know it was written way back when, but what is the price for the private placement.....thank God for second chances to buy a stock at a super low price.....
[/B][/QUOTE]
by blizzard:
Mach abandons ship and Tommy declares himself new sec of state...lol
If someone believed in this stock, why would they abandon? Investors beware![/QUOTE]
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quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I thought I should chime in with my two cents....glad to see we have new support at .050 to .051Anyone who wants to still buy this stock just needs to do some research and look at the level II quotes as well as the letters from John. You will see this is still a great play.
We are dealing with pennies so anything can happen, but I will believe in this company's ability to reach higher levels...
And because of that belief I am going to put my money where my mouth is....I have been in contact with John through out the day and I am working out the details for a private placement......I most likely will wire the money in the morning....we are just fine tuning the details........I even got my wife's permission.
I encourage all to send what they can....the minimum is $2500. Since we all have a vested interest in this company, we should support it....I know there are some out here that can spare $2500.............
Looking forward to next year..........thank God for second chances to buy a stock at a super low price.....
[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited January 07, 2004).]
@ today's closing price, that PPM looks pretty good!
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
wow JF is worth over $6.5MM, low estimate!
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swalt6@comcast.net
thanks...
Walt
And I did the email thing about the Bliz ...
hope it helps. Bashers s u c k !!!1
quote:
Originally posted by stockguy04:
are you tied down for a certain time wtih ppm ... can someone explain this a little but more for me... i have emailed the ceo but havent got a response yet and wanted to know more about it
GLTA!
Much appreciated!
Just Me
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Just got back home, I emailed all the people that wanted the mail.GLTA!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
tommy,
are you going to do the PPM....dump a tiny tiny bit of that large quantity you have and do the PPM......its a great time to do it...
quote:
Originally posted by DiQuiRiesco:
Tommy, if you wouldn't mind, could you send me the email as well. It would be greatly appreciated
blakefreak@********
Tommy, it may not be a bargain for you to do the PPM, but I would venture to say that it would help in raising the overall stock value to make you ever so closer to being a millionaire
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Magoo, I believe that this is the time for your money to come into action. I think that the $3M you were talking about would really help them with that LOI! Maybe you're already talking about it with JF at this time!GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
To those who are on PGHI's mailing list and got the email from the CEO today. Don't you just love PGHI's management and their CEO?I challenge anyone to find an OTCBB stock where the CEO/management care so much about their shareholders!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by DiQuiRiesco:
wow, that is odd.....let's try this....... b l a k e f r e a k @ e p i x . n e t
GLTA!
Dz
/
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Guys, let's not talk about how much we hold anymore, we did the count on RB 2 months ago too and it was determined that the MM's monitor the boards and come up with strategies to try to shake out our shares. Let's just keep it personal.Thanks,
Tommy
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by denzen:
Tommy, I agree. I was amazed at the #s we were reaching. Will you share what these strategies are?Dz
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aleemjinah@hotmail
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Magoo, I believe that this is the time for your money to come into action. I think that the $3M you were talking about would really help them with that LOI! Maybe you're already talking about it with JF at this time!GLTA!
I am going to be meeting with John Flemming by the end of the month and talk to him about investing a good amount of money.
I am one of ten in my group of investors and there are some questions to be asked and answered in order that these funds are put into place and controls are also put into place.
My corporate lawyer will be setting all this up depending as to how and when the funds will be needed to acomplish the goals set forth by the PGHI group..
This much money needs checks and balances set forth as per schedualed events take place.
I am not sure at this point if this will be under the terms of the PPM stocks or otherwise. I had suggested before that my fundung would be by way of the PPM stocks but it was the only point of reference I had.
I might not be putting in the entire amount all at once but do have the funds available to do so over the period of time nessary.
All this really depends on what John Flemming has for the projection of the company in the way of growth and other factors.
Gets more complicated than I know personally. That is why I have my accountant and legal people take care of how to set this up for the best interest of my group and PGHI.
I will be investing enough cash for the company to meet their needs for their planned growth.
The common stock I hold will be partically sold back and the rest remain after it doubles in value and I can recover the inital investment which is tied up in this 4.8 million shares I hold.
Hope this helps
Magoo
dz
/
quote:
Originally posted by clay1999:
I think this "blizzard" is a PAID basher looking to shake out our shares!!!!! we need to point out pieces of crap like him... we been here for months blizzard....get lostby blizzard:
[b]Mach abandons ship and Tommy declares himself new sec of state...lolIf someone believed in this stock, why would they abandon? Investors beware!
[/B][/QUOTE]
Composite Indicator
Trend Spotter (TM) Buy
Short Term Indicators
7 Day Average Directional Indicator Buy
10 - 8 Day Moving Average Hilo Channel Buy
20 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
20 - 50 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
20 Day Bollinger Bands Hold
Short Term Indicators Average: 80% - Buy
20-Day Average Volume - 6482605
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40 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy
50 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
20 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
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Medium Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
50-Day Average Volume - 10751716
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60 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy
100 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
50 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
Long Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
100-Day Average Volume - 8410697
Overall Average: 96% - Buy
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I do not read the board every time I come online. You can ask to forward the mail by sending me an email @ presumptuous@pandora.be
pres
Jtebbe@bellsouth.net
Thanks in advance!
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pres
Please Remove B******D. He/she is disrupting all threads. And members are becoming very upset. Its great to offer great DD... but to go through threads and attack people and make comments such as "this suckz" is adolescent and needs to stay off the allstocks thread. Please. Thank you.
Reply from allstocks:
User has been banned.
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Does this mean that this will be the new site or will it remain veegeez.com?
quote:
Originally posted by wildhog:
hey Tommy could you please send me a copy of the email as well. thank you in advance.
wildhog5@yahoo.com
quote:
Originally posted by kcbudman:
I'll take care of it....
quote:
Originally posted by wildhog:
hey Tommy could you please send me a copy of the email as well. thank you in advance.
wildhog5@yahoo.com
ranger6922 @ bellsouth.net
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pres
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow:
Thank you allstocks. I encourage all to do their part in keeping this board fresh and clean. We deserve it here! machPlease Remove B******D. He/she is disrupting all threads. And members are becoming very upset. Its great to offer great DD... but to go through threads and attack people and make comments such as "this suckz" is adolescent and needs to stay off the allstocks thread. Please. Thank you.
Reply from allstocks:
User has been banned.
[This message has been edited by machtabow (edited January 08, 2004).]
Thanks U guyZ for EVAPORATING that dude9BliZZrd)!
JF e-mail ...had me convinced to accumulate some more in addition to my long term Holdings.
GL to US All
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Looks like we're getting closer...Does this mean that this will be the new site or will it remain veegeez.com?
As noted earlier, VeeGeez is not changing their name. It is the parent company Point Group Holdings Inc(PGHI) that is changing their name to Gameznflix, soon also to have a new undetermined OTCBB symbol.
The domain you are referring to is the future corporate site.(see link below)
I hope this clears up the confusion. - Marty
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http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=PGHI&read=23556
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quote:
Originally posted by adrenalix:
kc... me too pls adrenalix1@yahoo.com
quote:
Originally posted by PAUL:
I would like to see the email also.Pastor@WGAT.org
Thank you.
Looks like it is turning up today.
quote:
Originally posted by kcbudman:
Sent it adrenalix, sorry took so long.
[This message has been edited by tigerontop (edited January 08, 2004).]
Can you send me what you got? I don't want to
bother JF. You still got my Ureach address? Thanks a bunch. Keith
VeeGeez site ranking increases again! 158,457
I recommend the http://www.alexa.com toolbar, it shows the site ranking of every site you visit, and has a built in google search bar. Allstocks ranking is 43,568
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Looks like we're getting closer...Does this mean that this will be the new site or will it remain veegeez.com?
quote:
Originally posted by Degs:
Tommy:
Would you please send me a copy also?
Degs_7@yahoo.com TIA
Mike
Green is the period closed higher than it opened, red is closed lower than it opened, and grey is open and closed even. It has nothing to do with a buy at the bid or sell at the ask- but they obviously tend to go together
quote:
Originally posted by ranger6922:
i have a question concerning level 2 quotes i just started using level 2 and i noticed that when watching the last trades comming in they have 3 different colors, red (selling) green (buying) and then there is grey, and those trades seem to never effect the price movment. if any one can explain what the "grey" trades are i would appreciate it
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
green red grey dont mean buy and sell, its just the price movement.Green is the period closed higher than it opened, red is closed lower than it opened, and grey is open and closed even. It has nothing to do with a buy at the bid or sell at the ask- but they obviously tend to go together
Tommy
P.S. Phantom, I don't have your email address anymore, please give it to me again.
Use this one. phantom1107@lycos.com
Thank you.
BTW,I am not responding to C... ever again.
quote:
Originally posted by phantom1107:
Tommy,Use this one. phantom1107@lycos.com
Thank you.
BTW,I am not responding to C... ever again.
There is no selling going on. What does that mean? It means yesterday was indeed a MM shakeout- artificial selling, but we all knew that.
The stock is under accumulation today- look at the 10 day chart and make your assumption where this will be next week, IMO we will be testing highs again.
Strong hands
By the time we finish wondering about the price movement, the things listed in the email update will happen and boom there she will go again!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Today's action is very telling-There is no selling going on. What does that mean? It means yesterday was indeed a MM shakeout- artificial selling, but we all knew that.
The stock is under accumulation today- look at the 10 day chart and make your assumption where this will be next week, IMO we will be testing highs again.
Strong hands
I remember a few short weeks ago when this stock dropped down to the .02's. Very few people panicked and we are now in the .05-.06 range.
As I said before, I think we can expect this stock to remain in this range for a few days (or possibly weeks) until the release of the new site. My guess is that there is steady accumulation going on, but lots of $$ on the sidelines waiting to see what the new site will look like. When the new site is released, I think we will see a significant jump in PPS. This is just my opinion...
Thanks everyone for the great DD on this board. Great days are ahead!
Josh
quote:
Originally posted by JEB7006:
I find it a bit humerous that people get all worked up at the slightest drop. Although I recognize that penny stocks are a greater risk (this too is my first penny stock), no stock goes up non-stop. Nothing could be healthier for a stock to take "steps." A nice rise followed by somewhat level trading and consolidation periods, then another rise, etc., etc.I remember a few short weeks ago when this stock dropped down to the .02's. Very few people panicked and we are now in the .05-.06 range.
As I said before, I think we can expect this stock to remain in this range for a few days (or possibly weeks) until the release of the new site. My guess is that there is steady accumulation going on, but lots of $$ on the sidelines waiting to see what the new site will look like. When the new site is released, I think we will see a significant jump in PPS. This is just my opinion...
Thanks everyone for the great DD on this board. Great days are ahead!
Josh
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quote:
Originally posted by eb2:
could someone please send me the email from the ceo thanks. im getting on mail list spr4me@aol.com
buck
quote:
Originally posted by tigerontop:
The PPS....how long do you have to hold it for when you invest? I am in for the long haul anyway but does anyone know the rules and limitations, because I might be interested in the PPS.
Another question. Whats the pros and cons of selling my regular shares ot do so and going all in PPS.
Needless to say I have a great feeling about this stock!
I am in for 125Kshares @.034
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thanks
quote:
Originally posted by sopclod:
I agree. I'm holding long and I don't get too worked up on daily fluctuations. That's also why I barely post; what am I going to say?
quote:
Originally posted by ante:
I would also like to see a copy of the CEO's email. antediluvian306@yahoo.comTIA
quote:
Originally posted by infogen18:
dont you guys think there wil be alot of profit taking when the first PR comes out or the first substantial rise.. im not tryin to be a basher.. im jus thinkin that since so many ppl have been diligently waiting for a PR or web release that wont they sell on the news or on the slightest uptrend... maybe it wont affect long term price but i know it can damage short term prices... look wut happend to with IVOC and the PR.. any opinions?
Don't compare PGHI with IVOC! Ok?
Be patient if u want to be greatly rewarded.
The confirmation letter was mailed yesterday and in about 2 weeks, they will file for the symbol change and CUSIP number.
Hope it helps.
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by coumars:
Can anyone speculate, when would be the PR or name change coming.thanks
Thanks,
IVOC has billions of shares in the float and has nothing going on for them so it was a pump-n-dump scheme. Take a look at PGHI's charts and you will understand why this stock is what it is today!
No offense but sometimes I wonder how many people actually understand the concept of a stock market!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by infogen18:
dont you guys think there wil be alot of profit taking when the first PR comes out or the first substantial rise.. im not tryin to be a basher.. im jus thinkin that since so many ppl have been diligently waiting for a PR or web release that wont they sell on the news or on the slightest uptrend... maybe it wont affect long term price but i know it can damage short term prices... look wut happend to with IVOC and the PR.. any opinions?
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Of course some people are gonna sell but it is called TRADING for a reason, when someone sells there will be others in line to buy it up because the PR would have attracted new buyers. You can't call something TRADING if nothing changes hands.IVOC has billions of shares in the float and has nothing going on for them so it was a pump-n-dump scheme. Take a look at PGHI's charts and you will understand why this stock is what it is today!
No offense but sometimes I wonder how many people actually understand the concept of a stock market!
GLTA!
Thanks KC
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[This message has been edited by alexschmidt99 (edited January 08, 2004).]
I don't think that I reacted negatively at all. Seriously how can someone ask if there will be selling? How can other people buy if no one sells? That's the fundamental concept of trading! It's just plain logic that's all.
Anyway, good luck to you.
Tommy
quote:
Originally posted by infogen18:
tommy ive noticed your extreme "love" for pghi... although it is likely strong enthusiasm... you should watch the way you react to something you interpret as negativity... these are just opinions and ideas and possiblilties.. and if you react like that you are just going to be called a pumper even though you are likely not... obviously this board is much better than the RB board.. but you shouldnt take realism for negativity.. benjamin grahams first rule was never fall in love with a stock... check urself
For example: on a 1 for 2 split.....you start with 1000 shares worth .50 for $500. After the split you have 500 shares for $500. The problem is that the printing press companies then issue another billion shares and the price drops right back down.
The key to successful companies is that they don't have to issue another billion shares. If they are successful, the business operations are now producing their cash flow and the share count stays at the reduced level...and pps rises if the market reacts to the success over time.
Not all reverse splits are a bad thing. It all would need to be evaluated in conjunction with what is happening at the time.
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by infogen18:
what do you guys think will happen if things work out how u want in the short run... if pghi does go to .09-.1 what next... is johns plan to graduate pghi from the OTC to a larger index or to keep on the OTC... a possible reverse split?... what are you guys lookin for beyond the short term? i realize the potential of a netflix style company but if that were to happen the number of shares would have to be greatly reduced...and reverse split is the only way...
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quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Of course some people are gonna sell but it is called TRADING for a reason, when someone sells there will be others in line to buy it up because the PR would have attracted new buyers. You can't call something TRADING if nothing changes hands.IVOC has billions of shares in the float and has nothing going on for them so it was a pump-n-dump scheme. Take a look at PGHI's charts and you will understand why this stock is what it is today!
No offense but sometimes I wonder how many people actually understand the concept of a stock market!
GLTA!
dz
/
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
Infogen18.....I hope that the long term plan is indeed to get to the NASD. It just might take a reverse split to do that at some point in the future. The fear so many penny traders have of reverse splits is that most come from companies that are basically printing presses for shares.For example: on a 1 for 2 split.....you start with 1000 shares worth .50 for $500. After the split you have 500 shares for $500. The problem is that the printing press companies then issue another billion shares and the price drops right back down.
The key to successful companies is that they don't have to issue another billion shares. If they are successful, the business operations are now producing their cash flow and the share count stays at the reduced level...and pps rises if the market reacts to the success over time.
Not all reverse splits are a bad thing. It all would need to be evaluated in conjunction with what is happening at the time.
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
Infogen18.....I hope that the long term plan is indeed to get to the NASD. It just might take a reverse split to do that at some point in the future. The fear so many penny traders have of reverse splits is that most come from companies that are basically printing presses for shares.For example: on a 1 for 2 split.....you start with 1000 shares worth .50 for $500. After the split you have 500 shares for $500. The problem is that the printing press companies then issue another billion shares and the price drops right back down.
The key to successful companies is that they don't have to issue another billion shares. If they are successful, the business operations are now producing their cash flow and the share count stays at the reduced level...and pps rises if the market reacts to the success over time.
Not all reverse splits are a bad thing. It all would need to be evaluated in conjunction with what is happening at the time.
PSU
Contact John ceo@pghi.com
I myself just wired my first bach of funds to PGHI. I will wire another bach when I recieve my first stock certificate....when are you going to get another chance to buy this stock under .03
quote:
Originally posted by tigerontop:
The PPS....how long do you have to hold it for when you invest? I am in for the long haul anyway but does anyone know the rules and limitations, because I might be interested in the PPS.
Another question. Whats the pros and cons of selling my regular shares ot do so and going all in PPS.
Needless to say I have a great feeling about this stock!
I am in for 125Kshares @.034
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Also, as a fellow shareholder.....thank you!
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
con= you have to hold ti for a year
Pro= you get it for half off.Contact John ceo@pghi.com
I myself just wired my first bach of funds to PGHI. I will wire another bach when I recieve my first stock certificate....when are you going to get another chance to buy this stock under .03
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Originally posted by Anna:
I e-mailed to get on the list, however feeling a bit like a mushroom at the moment. Anyone with the e-mail willing to take pity and send it to me?Thank you.
Anna
Yes please send it to Mrs. Anna and she can send it to Mr. Cusshings ??briggsmith@yahoo.com
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Cusshings
GLTA!
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woody
[This message has been edited by woody (edited January 08, 2004).]
Let's see who's confident in PGHI and who's not. I've been through 7-8 shakedowns like these in 3 months and each time it's very interesting!GLTA!
I am actually buying more, thanks weak hands!
[This message has been edited by justplayin (edited January 08, 2004).]
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Originally posted by McDermottSeattle:
i don't have currnet level II. Was that a buy at 400,000?
GLTA!
Time to push back at the MM,s
Lets see who blinks first
I might end up with alot more shares if they don't want to blow past me
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Originally posted by pegasus:
Can someone please shoot me the email from Mr. Flemming. Thanks in advance.
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Originally posted by Magoo:
Well Lookie hereTime to push back at the MM,s
Lets see who blinks first
I might end up with alot more shares if they don't want to blow past me
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Originally posted by pegasus:
oops... maye527@hotmail.com
got caugt up in the excitement
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Originally posted by coumars:
can anyone tell me whats happening.
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Originally posted by coumars:
can anyone tell me whats happening.
The MM's are dragging the price down to try to scare people into selling their shares at a lower price. The volume is low and people are not buying very steadly. I have challanged them to sell at their sale price and they will need to fill my order or up their price to go ahead of me and eliminate any chance of me getting those shares which they want.
I am going to chase them higher because they are trying to bluff right now.
They just upped the ask to .05 to aoid you getting shares !!! Hmmm.....
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Originally posted by Magoo:
The MM's are dragging the price down to try to scare people into selling their shares at a lower price. The volume is low and people are not buying very steadly. I have challanged them to sell at their sale price and they will need to fill my order or up their price to go ahead of me and eliminate any chance of me getting those shares which they want.
I am going to chase them higher because they are trying to bluff right now.
Let's say that I'm an MM and I know that 20 people bought in at .054+ and that news will not come for two weeks or something, I'm just making it up here. Then I would push down the price pass .05 and scare them into selling since the news is not coming anytime soon.
You see the importance of keeping your mouth shut now?
No worries, the future is very bright here!
GLTA!
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Originally posted by Magoo:
The MM's are dragging the price down to try to scare people into selling their shares at a lower price. The volume is low and people are not buying very steadly. I have challanged them to sell at their sale price and they will need to fill my order or up their price to go ahead of me and eliminate any chance of me getting those shares which they want.
I am going to chase them higher because they are trying to bluff right now.
They are running up on me now so I will try to get them into the .05's
Any newbies don't pay much attention the the price fluxuations. It's only the games the MM's are playing to get you to sell your shares
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
Here is a level_II snapshot.....
http://users.adelphia.net/~x1f2/level_II.gif
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woody
[This message has been edited by clay1999 (edited January 08, 2004).]
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Originally posted by pegasus:
Thanks Tommy. Sorry bout not posting me email at first. To all...perfect time to accumalate. I know I am.
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Originally posted by Kaged:
would someone send me the email please?
kaged_1@hotmail.com
mm Bid mm Ask
2 .044 2 .045
3 .042 2 .046
6 .04 3 .05
[This message has been edited by zo (edited January 08, 2004).]
bid 2 @ .044
ask 2 @ .045
Cheers.
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Originally posted by Magoo:
Well Lookie hereTime to push back at the MM,s
Lets see who blinks first
I might end up with alot more shares if they don't want to blow past me
DZ
John Fleming sends an e-mail. Key thing to come out of it: Website is not done and there may not be any new news and PRs for weeks. So, all the short-term traders looking to profit off a big pop when the new website hits or the next PR is release now realize nothing may happen for the next 2 weeks. So why hold the stock? If anything, it wasn't going to get much higher than 5-6 cents, so sell it and trade something else.
Also, what a perfect time to get in the PPS. You know the share price is going to pretty much stay flat or go a little lower on the announcement of "no news", so why not sell common and buy into that.
All in all, sure I don't like to see such a big drop... but in reality, I should've expected it. I almost considered selling temporarily for the above reasons. Would've gotten some more shares, but too late now.
Things are still looking good in the long-term and from a long perspective, everything John said in the e-mail sounds good. So don't worry... keep holding on.
.04 will almost definitely be a bottom due to the PPS... so if you want to buy, buy now!
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Originally posted by Malloy:
Mr Magoo, please let it drop so we can all get more at a decent price. Pushing it to form a base a 0.05 is not the time now. The web site is horrible and no news yet. Keep some fuel for the real race. We will all be winner.Cheers.
I drove them back to .05 and then canceled my orders. I will not push them up until noon tomorrow so everyone can load up if they would like.
Tomorrow we will see a sharp spike up and if we do not by noon then I will put in large orders to buy an take them back up tomorrow for a good close.
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Originally posted by JEB7006:
If you need free real-time level II, go to: http://www.allstocks.com/level2quotesotcbb.html
Thnak you
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Originally posted by RedBullish:
Here is my theory on why the stock took a nosedive today... I believe a considerable amount may have to do with this board which spread the JF e-mail out to a lot more people.John Fleming sends an e-mail. Key thing to come out of it: Website is not done and there may not be any new news and PRs for weeks. So, all the short-term traders looking to profit off a big pop when the new website hits or the next PR is release now realize nothing may happen for the next 2 weeks. So why hold the stock? If anything, it wasn't going to get much higher than 5-6 cents, so sell it and trade something else.
Also, what a perfect time to get in the PPS. You know the share price is going to pretty much stay flat or go a little lower on the announcement of "no news", so why not sell common and buy into that.
All in all, sure I don't like to see such a big drop... but in reality, I should've expected it. I almost considered selling temporarily for the above reasons. Would've gotten some more shares, but too late now.
Things are still looking good in the long-term and from a long perspective, everything John said in the e-mail sounds good. So don't worry... keep holding on.
.04 will almost definitely be a bottom due to the PPS... so if you want to buy, buy now!
If everyone is waiting on the PR for the next BIG run.
Why not let it drop back down a bit and pick up some more shares?
OR
Sell some of your shares at a temporary high,
then pick them back up.
If the company is that solid (I am not questioning the stability of PGHI) then the price of the stock will follow the performance of the company, RIGHT?
Why hassle w/ the MM's over shakes?
It would seem that there is some short term money and some long term money to be made here.
Just my thoughts...
I am trying to learn so I question everything.
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Let not the rich man glory in his riches.
dz
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Originally posted by tommy:
See people when I say that you shouldn't post how many shares you own and at what price on the boards? Also why you shouldn't post info like the email from PGHI yesterday.Let's say that I'm an MM and I know that 20 people bought in at .054+ and that news will not come for two weeks or something, I'm just making it up here. Then I would push down the price pass .05 and scare them into selling since the news is not coming anytime soon.
You see the importance of keeping your mouth shut now?
No worries, the future is very bright here!
GLTA!
Besides, I have spoken to a couple of people that want to invest a large amount of money in this comapny....but are waiting for some of the dust to settle. I would not be suprised if we didn't get some PR about millions being invested within the year.
Magoo himself is one who wants to invest a large amount of money.
After the new website and name change, I would venture to say that we will never see 4 cents again.....just my opinion..
what I am I saying......tuck some of those shares under your pillow, and see where we end up in a year. WERE NOT ALL GOING TO BE RICH IN A MONTH. It took NetFlix about a year to go from about $4 to about $60.
Thats like us going from .04 to .60 in a year.
I WOULD BE MORE THEN HAPPY WITH .60 IN A YEAR
RELAX At these levels we will more then double our money in a year.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
Also behind closed doors we really don't know what each of us is doing. Some could be selling and accumulating more... and just not broadcasting it.
It's a world of sharks... but this message board and all here are GREAT at helping eachother out.
P.S. I also know that PGHI isn't your typical OTCBB stock. It has sooooo much potential. That is another reason why others hang on tightly
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Originally posted by PAUL:
I do not understand the concept of wanting the share price to not drop if this is a long term investment.If everyone is waiting on the PR for the next BIG run.
Why not let it drop back down a bit and pick up some more shares?
OR
Sell some of your shares at a temporary high,
then pick them back up.If the company is that solid (I am not questioning the stability of PGHI) then the price of the stock will follow the performance of the company, RIGHT?
Why hassle w/ the MM's over shakes?
It would seem that there is some short term money and some long term money to be made here.
Just my thoughts...
I am trying to learn so I question everything.
[This message has been edited by COOLORANGEFREEZE (edited January 08, 2004).]
I am not trying to be a cheerleader for this stock, I am just trying to pass on some good will that machtabow gave me when we retracted a little. If mach didn't convince me to hold this stock I would have sold it for a loss.....now I am up, even after the fall today......trust me......BUY MORE.
When we start getting those PR's about the good things that PGHI is doing, were going to fly.....
By the way, with my large amount of shares from the PPM......I AM WAY UP.......and I don't have to worry about panic selling At least not until next year. Great chance for everyone to buy a stock a .02. Conatact John at ceo@pghi.com
Plus it helps the company......
Has anyone done the PPM besides me?
[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited January 08, 2004).]
Yeah I just emailed John and he emailed me the forms... on were to send the money. I also have a group of people that want to buy some PPM in groups. Spoke to John about it and this is what he wrote :
Please review the attached documents, complete them as needed, follow the wire instructions on the Term Sheet. As group please provide me complete name, mailing address of each member.
I think we can handle a group if we keep the group together when providing the information under the key member of the group.
Cheers,
John Fleming
CEO/President
Point Group Holdings, Incorporated
1535 Blackjack Road
Franklin, KY 42134
Tel: 888.542.6817
Fax: 270.778.0025 www.pghi.biz
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Originally posted by cndboy:
Hi Bet,Yeah I just emailed John and he emailed me the forms... on were to send the money. I also have a group of people that want to buy some PPM in groups. Spoke to John about it and this is what he wrote :
Please review the attached documents, complete them as needed, follow the wire instructions on the Term Sheet. As group please provide me complete name, mailing address of each member.
I think we can handle a group if we keep the group together when providing the information under the key member of the group.
Cheers,
John Fleming
CEO/President
Point Group Holdings, Incorporated
1535 Blackjack Road
Franklin, KY 42134
Tel: 888.542.6817
Fax: 270.778.0025 www.pghi.biz
[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited January 08, 2004).]
No worries here, I've seen too many shakeouts here, been there done that! I'm long since 0.008 and I could have sold my 2M shares at 0.06 but I didnt!Why? Because why make $120,000 when I can be a millionaire in a few months!
No guts no glory and no patience no money, remember that!
GLTA!
[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited January 08, 2004).]
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Remember when we all though that the new website was going to be gamesNflix, because that one guy owned the gamezNflix..Looks like PGHI bought the rights to www.gamezNflix.com
Thats great news.
[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited January 09, 2004).]
he has good intentions...
pres
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Originally posted by tommy:
...I'm long since 0.008 and I could have sold my 2M shares at 0.06 but I didnt!...
Too much information, remember what you said about the Market Makers, LOL.
I had to tommy, just had to.
Long & Strong - Marty
5 Days
No worries here, we'll bounce back, been there done that!
GLTA!
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
Too much information, remember what you said about the Market Makers, LOL.I had to tommy, just had to.
Long & Strong - Marty
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Originally posted by tommy:
BetNitAll, actually the site was bought by a shareholder named "domainmast" on RB, he's now hosting the corporate website for PGHI since he owns that domain register company.
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Originally posted by coumars:
Tommy I got ur mail, I bought some of them @0.051, should I wait.
I was little confused.
Please give suggestion how to play now.
Thanks
PSU
Until Cabbage posts.... check out this link and compare it to the chart:
http://www.chartpatterns.com/ascendingtriangles.htm
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
We're back where we were 5 days ago.5 Days
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Originally posted by tommy:
Oh crap Marty, now thy're gonna run it down past 0.008 to force me to sell!No worries here, we'll bounce back, been there done that!
GLTA!
That means I am F'ed too!!!
We also touched on the 20 day EMA (.04), which has shown to be a great support level. IMO I dont see this dropping tomorrow, I see it coming back from oversold to form an M type top such as last time.
I'll see what I can do for a chart later, I need to go eat some food!
Thanks -Tommy ,
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Originally posted by tommy:
coumars, what do you mean exactly by "should I wait", wait for what? You want to sell at loss now?
Seriously people, we joke around about the PPS tanking but we're just messing with the newbies a bit. The stock was overbought and it's been correcting, look at the chart, you will understand it better!
GLTA!
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
You have very keen eyes PSU. Today's move does fit the pattern, and was the reason I bought more at .041 (I was pretty lucky, after I bought, 1MM shares went through at the ask in only 2 minutes!).We also touched on the 20 day EMA (.04), which has shown to be a great support level. IMO I dont see this dropping tomorrow, I see it coming back from oversold to form an M type top such as last time.
I'll see what I can do for a chart later, I need to go eat some food!
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Originally posted by coumars:
I m kinda scared, I will go with what you guys do. I thought I can sell some of them . I gonna hold it nowThanks -Tommy ,
Recent CandleStick Analysis Very Bearish
whats with that
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Originally posted by tommy:
If you look at the chart http://www.stockta.com/cgi-bin/analysis.pl?symb=PGHI&num1=1&cobrand=&mode=stock you can see that we are experiencing the same scenario like after the run ups on Oct 28th, Dec 2nd, and Dec 8th.Seriously people, we joke around about the PPS tanking but we're just messing with the newbies a bit. The stock was overbought and it's been correcting, look at the chart, you will understand it better!
GLTA!
Man I can't believe I'm still doing this on Allstock now, I used to babysit the newbies on RB too! lol (not talking about you stockguy04, just in general)
I'm gonna sit back a bit and let you guys post. I've been too active here. To the newbies, I know that you are afraid to post but you gotta participate too, I'm handing it off to you now, you are the new generation of investors here, I'm part of the dinosaurs now.
Still here but lurking for a while.
GLTA!
Tommy
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Originally posted by stockguy04:
tommy the link u posted had this about pghi ....Recent CandleStick Analysis Very Bearish
whats with that
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Here's the deal with PPM shares.
First of all the shares will come from the authorized shares. Right now the company has 900,000,000 authorized shares. 414,000,000+ are outstanding.
The share certificate will be issued to you as restricted under Rule 144. That means you cannot trade it for a minimum of 1 year. After the year you will need to either mail your certificate back to PGHI, who will take care of unrestricting it and mail you back your unrestricted shares or you can check with your brokerage firm to see if they can handle it. Once you get the unrestricted shares you mail them to your brokerage firm and you can then trade them.
Yes, this does mean that there will be some dilution when the shares become unrestricted. However, the benefit to the company and the stockholders of investing in PPM is far greater.
With this money the company will be able to finance future acquisitions and expansion.
I have been thinking about this post for some time now and thought that today would be a good time to share my opinion with other members of this board particularly in light of today's events.
As many of you know I have always always stated that there was plenty of news worthy of releasing to the public. If anything, the recent e-mail/News Letter from John confirms that there is lots happening.
Even the greatest ideas, visions or in this case business development plans will fade into nothingness if they cannot be sold. This is especially true when the future development of the company is largely determined by attracting investors willing to buy into the CEO's Vision for the company.
Now from my vantage point, John has designed a great business development plan and he is clearly working dilligently on delivering on that plan by putting all of the right steps into place. Where he gets a D- in my book is in selling that vision to the investment community. Once again, all of the steps John and his management team have made over the past months do not and should not be equated with FLUFF. I will argue this point until I am blue in the face. How anyone can argue this point is beyond me. Ask any CEO about selling their vision.
Every great CEO sells his business vision to the investment public and John must do the same. Actually it is part of his responsibility to the company to maintain and attract new investors.
As I see it, we have done our part and it is now time for John to step up to the "Selling his Vision for the Company Plate" and hit a home run. If this had been done earlier and successfully we would already be above 0.10 cents even without the New website launch.
Even the greatest of ideas will wither and die on the vine if they cannot be sold....
Just like when we were at .028...this train is leaving the station SOON!
LAST CALL, ALL ABOARD......................
My opinion, especially from talking to John, is that he does not care about Friday or even next week. John doesn't care if you make 100% gains from this stock...he is interested in the long term health of the company, and he is going really slow. This stocks climb from under a penny to .04 since september is very good news. And most of this climb caim on very little to no news.
To loosey quote John, we will crawl before we walk, we will walk before we run....and as of now we are still walking. Give PGHI time for their buissnesss plan to take shape......give them time for the name change, new website's, and PPM.....basically, give them time to have something to sell......Most of the people that I have talked to, including Magoo, are waiting for some of the dust to settle before they invest a lot of money.
I wouldn't give this company millions of dollars until they showed that they could make the best out of their investment.....These next three months will be very exciting. PGHI will be a totally different comapny in three months, bigger, leaner, and with more money....wait and see
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Originally posted by EDDREAMS:
Alittle more about PPM , I also got the letter it is not $ 2500.00 the minimun it is
$ 5000.00.- I am still thinking about getting in, for a rookie like me it is a little scary to put 5 grands in one place.-
Already have some good numbers of shares of PGHI the PPM will help a lot but still hurts a little.- For those rookies like me I like to say is very simple, if you belive the company is good then this drop don't means nothing just stay put, on the other hand if you don't belive why did you get in in the first place? I AM HOLDING FOR A LONG TIME A LEAST A YEAR, give this company a chance
ED.
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
The letter is wrong....the minimum is $2,500
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Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
That's true. It just needs to be updated. The minimum is $2,500.
this stock gained value on the premise of seeing a new website...as I recall, it was initially going to be completed end of december, it was then suggested that it would be early january....
As pointed out by another poster...this stock dropped like a rock because the "dream" did not materialize as expected. Not the MMs, just plain and simple lack of interest by new investors....because they don't know we are here and nothing has been released to confirm anything that we discuss routinely.
I stated this before and will say it again, How long do you think you can keep selling the promise of a new website without anything concrete to show to the new investors to convince them that something is actually happening. I recommend that you read a text on marketing 101 and then show_me where I am wrong.
On second thought, bring it on...I won't be buying anymore shares that don't average down...what a loss for the company....all in all.
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Originally posted by Gonnaplode:
I respectfully disagree with you...this stock gained value on the premise of seeing a new website...as I recall, it was initially going to be completed end of december, it was then suggested that it would be early january....
As pointed out by another poster...this stock dropped like a rock because the "dream" did not materialize as expected. Not the MMs, just plain and simple lack of interest by new investors....because they don't know we are here and nothing has been released to confirm anything that we discuss routinely.
I stated this before and will say it again, How long do you think you can keep selling the promise of a new website without anything concrete to show to the new investors to convince them that something is actually happening. I recommend that you read a text on marketing 101 and then show_me where I am wrong.
All is well. Time to accumulate more shares! Take care! mach
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Originally posted by tommy:
I agree with Gonnaplode, hopefully John will pay attention and take the appropriate steps. Personally I think that yesterday's email should have been a PR so that the world could know what the plans for the company are!
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Originally posted by Gonnaplode:
PGHI investorsI have been thinking about this post for some time now and thought that today would be a good time to share my opinion with other members of this board particularly in light of today's events.
As many of you know I have always always stated that there was plenty of news worthy of releasing to the public. If anything, the recent e-mail/News Letter from John confirms that there is lots happening.
Even the greatest ideas, visions or in this case business development plans will fade into nothingness if they cannot be sold. This is especially true when the future development of the company is largely determined by attracting investors willing to buy into the CEO's Vision for the company.
Now from my vantage point, John has designed a great business development plan and he is clearly working dilligently on delivering on that plan by putting all of the right steps into place. Where he gets a D- in my book is in selling that vision to the investment community. Once again, all of the steps John and his management team have made over the past months do not and should not be equated with FLUFF. I will argue this point until I am blue in the face. How anyone can argue this point is beyond me. Ask any CEO about selling their vision.
Every great CEO sells his business vision to the investment public and John must do the same. Actually it is part of his responsibility to the company to maintain and attract new investors.
As I see it, we have done our part and it is now time for John to step up to the "Selling his Vision for the Company Plate" and hit a home run. If this had been done earlier and successfully we would already be above 0.10 cents even without the New website launch.
Even the greatest of ideas will wither and die on the vine if they cannot be sold....
However, anyone that has been reading the past two threads ould see that there has been work accomplished on a new website. There was even a link out there for a while...
I really don't care what new investors do today because there is no news. (The ones that bought for a quick gain)
I understand that a lot of day traders, as well as some swing traders, are going to sell some of their shares because of the lack of news..
Less the $500,000 (if my math is correct)changed hands today.....WHEN the new website is up....then we will see.
You see Gonnaplode, there are a lot of long term holders here (including yourself). We don't panic becasue of a delay in something. The SEC filings have confirmed the new name change and Roy Vella's website states he is making it for them.
We have not had a press release since December 9th and there has not been many complaints. AFRR released a lot of fluff PR's and look at their stock.....I wan't progress, then PR...not PR's that don't turn out.
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Originally posted by Gonnaplode:
I respectfully disagree with you...this stock gained value on the premise of seeing a new website...as I recall, it was initially going to be completed end of december, it was then suggested that it would be early january....
As pointed out by another poster...this stock dropped like a rock because the "dream" did not materialize as expected. Not the MMs, just plain and simple lack of interest by new investors....because they don't know we are here and nothing has been released to confirm anything that we discuss routinely.
I stated this before and will say it again, How long do you think you can keep selling the promise of a new website without anything concrete to show to the new investors to convince them that something is actually happening. I recommend that you read a text on marketing 101 and then show_me where I am wrong.
[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited January 08, 2004).]
New investors are what give value to this stock...are you new to investing? Even as a Newbie myself I know better than that.
and I have been in PGHI and singing it's praises since mid November and I have not sold one share. I believe this makes me a long by relative terms.....what does how long you have held a stock have to do with anything I have discussed here....absolutely nothing.
Companies that spend too much time pumping the stock instead of concentrating on developing the business is bad news to me!
On another note I do agree with Gonnaplode that a PR stating the things listed on the email from yesterday would not be a bad idea at all, it would calm down a lot of people for a month or so!
GLTA!
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
bet 9,000,000 x .05 = $450,000
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Originally posted by Gonnaplode:
You don't care about new investors?????New investors are what give value to this stock...are you new to investing? Even as a Newbie myself I know better than that.
and I have been in PGHI and singing it's praises since mid November and I have not sold one share. I believe this makes me a long by relative terms.....what does how long you have held a stock have to do with anything I have discussed here....absolutely nothing.
[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited January 08, 2004).]
Sure, the design and layout might of gone smooth as silk, but it is the actual site mechanics(real-time inventory, order processing, etc) that have acquired a monkey wrench. NOTE: PURE SPECULATION
With the exception of royvella.com, it sounds like all work is being done internally via the talents within VG's.
I commend PGHI withholding the release of the "new" VGs website pending 100% operation success, but as a subscriber - Hurry up!!! I can't stand the site, I just cringe every time I check my queue. - Marty
i think in penny stocks where there is always some huge success story in the limelight, investors tend to forget that real sustained gains take more than investor euphoria. sure, it is dissappointing to see a stock slip back and watch your bottom line go from green to red, but if you invest with diversity, in increments and with patience you will be rewaded over the long haul. i suspect that many here play these penny stocks like horses, riding the gains and losses with every stride their pick makes. there is a large degree of luck necessary to make this method work.
we all tend to cheer the hares and ignore or overlook the tortises, even though we all still know thw outcome of that story. ibzt over the last few days was a good example. anything that has a 3000% gain to it's high over the last ten days will almost certainly give some of it back. i gave back about 60k this afternoon, but am still very pleased with where it is now over where it was just before christmas. i feel the same way about pghi, but also feel that the slower steady growth may prove to be more sustainable.
if ibzt goes sideways and consolidates for awhile, and then builds on press that deals with orders instead of the excitment regarding the release of a new product, the share price will become less volatile.
i feel the recent highs from pghi were in a large part due to the large attention it received on stock sites such as this one. this became the source for perhaps more attention and prediction than john fleming and his team were able to fulfill for us. we wanted to go from crawl to run in share value while the company was taking a step at a time. pennies to porsches and no more punching the clock.
in this penny stock world when investments fails to live up to the predictions and investors fail to get regular neck snapping performance, they look for something else. perhaps we all can learn something here about just how much we should speculate on price and time frame scenarios. if the share price is even in part driven by commentary, the gain or loss might not really reflect the true value.
uncle milty
quote:
Originally posted by jr:
tommy, when u get a minute could u send me that email from john? i think im the only person that hasnt seen it lol.. thanks alot
quote:
Originally posted by stockguy04:
are you guys seeing a drop in PPS 2morow again... from the direction of the TA and other factors it seems that we might see a dip 2morow and maybe the finish of a strong cup and handle,,, what do you guys think?
If you believe in the company and did your DD correctly, just sit back and relax, like I said before, I've been through more than one up and down with PGHI and each time we emerged stronger and higher. Patience is a virtue!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by stockguy04:
are you guys seeing a drop in PPS 2morow again... from the direction of the TA and other factors it seems that we might see a dip 2morow and maybe the finish of a strong cup and handle,,, what do you guys think?
Gonn, you make it sound as to there is no website coming at all. And that we should all wait until .02 to buy the stock...
quote:
Originally posted by old mullet:
betinit & alli think in penny stocks where there is always some huge success story in the limelight, investors tend to forget that real sustained gains take more than investor euphoria. sure, it is dissappointing to see a stock slip back and watch your bottom line go from green to red, but if you invest with diversity, in increments and with patience you will be rewaded over the long haul. i suspect that many here play these penny stocks like horses, riding the gains and losses with every stride their pick makes. there is a large degree of luck necessary to make this method work.
we all tend to cheer the hares and ignore or overlook the tortises, even though we all still know thw outcome of that story. ibzt over the last few days was a good example. anything that has a 3000% gain to it's high over the last ten days will almost certainly give some of it back. i gave back about 60k this afternoon, but am still very pleased with where it is now over where it was just before christmas. i feel the same way about pghi, but also feel that the slower steady growth may prove to be more sustainable.
if ibzt goes sideways and consolidates for awhile, and then builds on press that deals with orders instead of the excitment regarding the release of a new product, the share price will become less volatile.
i feel the recent highs from pghi were in a large part due to the large attention it received on stock sites such as this one. this became the source for perhaps more attention and prediction than john fleming and his team were able to fulfill for us. we wanted to go from crawl to run in share value while the company was taking a step at a time. pennies to porsches and no more punching the clock.
in this penny stock world when investments fails to live up to the predictions and investors fail to get regular neck snapping performance, they look for something else. perhaps we all can learn something here about just how much we should speculate on price and time frame scenarios. if the share price is even in part driven by commentary, the gain or loss might not really reflect the true value.
uncle milty
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow:
Tommy are we saving PR money by emailing investors?
Mach -
I liked your comment. A+
I'm always comforted by the "BIG" picture I
see in the weeks and months ahead, which is re-inforced by the confidence I have in JF.
Not selling a single share til around $1
I wish you would have posted previously so that I would not have bought into PGHI on one of its all time highs....
quote:
Originally posted by Gonnaplode:
Why bother with the ppm, if I have to wait thirty days for any announcement to the investment community as to progress, I will be able to buy them in the market for 0.02....On second thought, bring it on...I won't be buying anymore shares that don't average down...what a loss for the company....all in all.
[This message has been edited by tigerontop (edited January 08, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by tigerontop:
I have a quick question for anyone. I would love to accumlate more shares but have put all my funds in already for the long haul. Will there ever be a good stability to play the dips to add shares or is it to risky? Thats just the only way I can add shares.[This message has been edited by tigerontop (edited January 08, 2004).]
slowly pieces will all fall into place
take a look:
http://www.gameznflix.com/
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quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Hold a certain percentage of it, daytrade the rest. I hold 65% for the long term, and trade the rest. This strategy has allowed me to build my position, and allowed me to enter today near the low.
quote:
Originally posted by tigerontop:
Thats a good point. Thanks! It just seems way to easy to see the floors and ceilings with the past now that yo ulook back, but with the news and site coming anyday I think it could be easy to be caught by suprise.
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Well considering that all stocks go up and down, that might be a good idea to buy in the consolidation.....better then buying in the high...
I wish you would have posted previously so that I would not have bought into PGHI on one of its all time highs....
The worst thing a business can do to dissapoint investors is make promises and then not fill them.That creates a negative tone ...a loss of confidence and a loss of business.Hence J.F. does not put out PR's until he knows it is 100% ready to go.He then becomes reliable to the investment community and a reliable person can call
his own shots.New investors are not the priority here.The priority is establishing the product , then fine tuning it so it is presentable to the public.Once the product is presentable you then start a marketing blitz , then the marketing blitz generates the attention of the new investors.The new investors see a polished product and they invest.Fleming knows what to do this is not the first business venture he has been involved in.If you do not believe this I will be happy to give you a list of great products that never got off the ground because people made promises they could not deliver.REMEMBER the most impotant part of a business is the reliablity of its promises.If you can deliver on your promises the flood gates are open.With all due respect to everyone posting on this board if everyone would stop talking about what is to come and building up peoples expectations about messages from Fleming we would all be better off.The site will come the name change will come the DVD business will come just let it take its course.It will not get here any faster if we put our own timetable on it because we want our shares to increase.Just my thoughts.
TRSTURGUT-18
Thanks!
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
If you have a cash account that makes you wait 3 days, you should just hold. I am able to do this because my margin account allows me to daytrade cash
The only drawback- annoying daytrading call messages. It constantly says I have a daytrading call- which is wrong because I don't purchase on margin. Folks at Ameritrade told me to ignore it.
PS- I recieved an email from Ameritrade about the new website they are creating, and it will be modeled after the DATEK site. WooHoo!
quote:
Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
Hey, Cabbage... you just use your own cash? If you use margin do you know how much the interest rate is? I have Ameritrade too... thinking about the margin account for easier trading. Any drawbacks?Thanks!
quote:
Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
Hey, Cabbage... you just use your own cash? If you use margin do you know how much the interest rate is? I have Ameritrade too... thinking about the margin account for easier trading. Any drawbacks?Thanks!
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Everyone has their own tradeing style but in the long run everyone includeing myself understand what this stock is most likely to do.
I am going to watch the MM's play their games tomorrow and see which direction we go in. If they take it down a bit I will be buying in at a point to freeze the backward slide.
I do believe that we will see a natural upward trend tomorrow.
If you are worried about any losses today maybe you can look at it this way. Why am I not worried when my losses are on almost five million shares.
There is a bright light at the end of this very short tunnel.
If you had followed my previous posts on technicals, you would've known that we were overbought. Of course, it is hard to sell when you know a PR is due out any day.
Today was actually a very good move for the stock. What we went through is known as "Consolidation" where the price has run up- the bids have spread out, so the asks were in a sense "compacted" forming "resistence". We have been consolidating FOR THREE DAYS. Today's move was good, because it got most of the consolidating out of the way in a short period of time.
It was also good because it was a drop on relatively low volume.
We have support at .04, the fibs state this, the level 2's state this, and the 20 Day EMA states this.
I bought back at .041 today 6 mintues before the close because of these technical reasons.
Overall we are still in an uptrend.
Two possibilities exist considering no news is released.
1) an "M-Type Top" is formed. Look at the chart if you dont know what this is, the last run up to .05 formed one. Given the magnitude of the drop, and possibility of news I think this is a strong possibility. The stock would rebound quickly back to resistence, from there weak hands that got in late would sell off for break even.
2) Continuation of the Ascending Triangle/Cup & Handle pattern. We have strong strong strong support at .04-.035. The two's are likely gone forever and we will not be seing them again.
This pattern would be a continuation of consolidation and would bottom out where the volume has completely dried up.
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Keep in mind, these are my opinions and interpetations of the technical indicators which are after the fact, and cannot fully predict future events. Go PGHI!
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[This message has been edited by cabbage22 (edited January 08, 2004).]
That's how I understand it.
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
What does it mean when the spread is wide? Anthing?
thanks
quote:
Originally posted by Moose:
anyone still around here that could possibly send me that e-mail that you've all been talking about...thanks
thanks!
quote:
Originally posted by Moose:
anyone still around here that could possibly send me that e-mail that you've all been talking about...thanks
quote:
Originally posted by Moose:
mikestdtrades@hotmail.comthanks!
I always believed in the way John Fleming does business, so I'm happy to see he is sticking to it and doing things his way...
Slow is the way to go, better to get things done right then to have to backtrack to fix things you've flow by.
Thanks again.
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Sent...
quote:
Originally posted by jr:
hey moose, can you send me that email from john i havent seen it yet either.. thanks! stockboy79@yahoo.com
chetross@hotmail.com
Domain Name: GAMEZNFLIX.COM Administrative Contact: John Fleming ceo@pghi.biz Point Group Holdings, Incorporated 1535 Blackjack Road Franklin, KY 42134 US Phone: 270.598.0385 Fax: 619.374.2842 Technical Contact: Domain Masters.net support@domainmasters.net DomainMasters.net High Speed Web Hosting and Internet Services 1654 Tunkhannock Trails Long Pond, PA 18334-9714 US Phone: 570-643-2038 Fax: 570-643-2081 Record updated on 2004-01-07 14:32:29 Record created on 2003-11-10 Record expires on 2004-11-10 Database last updated on 2004-01-09 01:36:36 EST Domain servers in listed order: NS.CAPITAL-COMPUTERS.COM 216.147.43.187 NS2.CAPITAL-COMPUTERS.COM 216.147.1.141
PGHI is also listed as the admin or registrant for
GamezNflix
com
net
org
biz
info
GamesNFlix
com
biz
net
us
Things are moving along nicely
He's a shareholder and offered to host the GamezNFlix website for PGHI when the name change is finalized. He will also do internet consulting for them.
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Tommy, I know that you were saying that another person owns gamezNflix.com .....but this is what I found..Doamin masters is listed only as the Tech Support. It was updated on 1-7-2004Domain Name: GAMEZNFLIX.COM Administrative Contact: John Fleming ceo@pghi.biz Point Group Holdings, Incorporated 1535 Blackjack Road Franklin, KY 42134 US Phone: 270.598.0385 Fax: 619.374.2842 Technical Contact: Domain Masters.net support@domainmasters.net DomainMasters.net High Speed Web Hosting and Internet Services 1654 Tunkhannock Trails Long Pond, PA 18334-9714 US Phone: 570-643-2038 Fax: 570-643-2081 Record updated on 2004-01-07 14:32:29 Record created on 2003-11-10 Record expires on 2004-11-10 Database last updated on 2004-01-09 01:36:36 EST Domain servers in listed order: NS.CAPITAL-COMPUTERS.COM 216.147.43.187 NS2.CAPITAL-COMPUTERS.COM 216.147.1.141
PGHI is also listed as the admin or registrant for
GamezNflix
com
net
org
biz
infoGamesNFlix
com
biz
net
us
Things are moving along nicely
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
BetNitAll, that's what I said, that domain hosting company belongs to a guy named "domainmast" on the RB, go check him out there.He's a shareholder and offered to host the GamezNFlix website for PGHI when the name change is finalized. He will also do internet consulting for them.
He originally registered the domain before PGHI did but he can't resell it to them because not only that would be cyber-squatting but since he's a shareholder, it would be illegal for him to do that. So instead he proposed to host it for them and to work for them as a consultant. So PGHI owns the right but he's the technical contact and the domain is hosted by his own company anyway.
Allright I believe that it was clear enough, let's move on shall we?
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
So who actually owns the rights to the site. I thought the admins. owns the rights to the site...
I can't wait for the day that we're ALL OVER the internet and magazines and everywhere!
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Get this, when I went to send my money for the PPM, I had with me a print out of the email that had all the account #'s....anyways...as I am sending the money, I see an add for NetFlix on the top of the paper that has the account info...
Next inventory increase (01/16/04): http://www.veegeez.com/allfuturereleases.asp
This is directed to nobody in particular but I think we should stop sending round JF email ! The email was generated by JF for his shareholders only and believe me he knows who his shareholders are.He gets a list every week of who bought.
Some people requesting the email may not even be investors.I believe if we just let JF have the time he requires eveyone here will benifit from it.Veegeez has a great future ahead of it.who cares if the site is a bit late we know its coming so no worries
Chris
rjking@bsu.edu is my e-mail address.
THANKS!
j160e
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Haha talk about irony!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
kcbudman, thanks for helping to email PGHI's update, everyone who has the email should do their part and send it around too and the newbies who are not on PGHI's mailing list, please email the CEO (ceo@pghi.biz) and ask to be on the list to receive future updates. Not every development will be released in a PR so be on the list to receive all info.Tommy
P.S. Phantom, I don't have your email address anymore, please give it to me again.
I requested to be on the mailing list yesterday and within a few minutes I had the e-mail that everyone was talking about
CEO@PGHI.biz Now everyone can get their own.
And just to show everyone how big of a noooob I am I posted this message as a new topic accidently! LOL
quote:
Originally posted by duke:
before chrissy_a makes her/himself police of this thread, would someone please send me this email from john? harrydavid1@hotmail.com yes, i do own shares of pghi. thankyou.
I don't think will see high 0.03's low 0.04's again. Good entry if you aren't in yet, watch trading this morning...
thanks...
jimmy_8909@yahoo.com
quote:
Originally posted by Moose:
looks like this will be a good day to pick up lots of shares before all the news come out before the end of the month.I don't think will see high 0.03's low 0.04's again. Good entry if you aren't in yet, watch trading this morning...
[This message has been edited by cabbage22 (edited January 09, 2004).]
then why else would they ask for it?
quote:
Originally posted by trader01:
good point, but everyone asking to read it is a shareholder... i thinkthen why else would they ask for it?
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
YOU GUYS NEED TO STOP SENDING THE EMAIL AROUND, ITS A NICE GESTURE BUT ITS WHAT GOT US HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE! THERE IS A REASON YOU ARENT SUPPOSED TO POST EMAILS, AND SHARING THEM WITH EVERY SHAREHOLDER IS JUST AS BAD! (nothing personal trader, this has been bothering me for some time now)
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
YOU GUYS NEED TO STOP SENDING THE EMAIL AROUND, ITS A NICE GESTURE BUT ITS WHAT GOT US HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE! THERE IS A REASON YOU ARENT SUPPOSED TO POST EMAILS, AND SHARING THEM WITH EVERY SHAREHOLDER IS JUST AS BAD! (nothing personal trader, this has been bothering me for some time now)
Can I ask what the big deal is about people viewing the email? I have not seen the letter posted anywhere, which would have been way out of line for the poster. Mr.Fleming I am sure figured in, this "getting around"!
So be it, read the email. There is allot of very good forward looking information in the email. Mr.Fleming generated this to supply an update for the shareholders. Even prospective shareholders should view it. -
quote:
Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
...Now we have lower priced shares and weak hands possibly freaking out... and the MM's love it.
Yes, if you have done your DD you know the PPS will rise once again. Weak hands are what they are weak, good riddance. People who are selling will be S.O.L. when the news starts to roll-out.
Please, have patients and stop bitching about the email floating around, the PPS will rise once again. -
The markets are a deep red all the way around this AM. I believe PGHI is holding its own very nicely. -
quote:
I agree. I never asked for the email in the first place. Just look at all of the DD here. If a shareholder wants an email from the CEO he/she should go to the source. Now we have lower priced shares and weak hands possibly freaking out... and the MM's love it.
I agree. A little too much informtaion gets posted here, I think. If you want emails from the company email Mr. Fleming or whoever and ask them.
My point about sharing the email, is that people are talking about the email on the messageboard. No, people arent posting it, but people are making references to what it contains. This is wrong. The MM's do read RB and other boards, and use it to their advantage. All I'm saying is for everyone here to be more careful with sensitive information in the future.
I see GVRC and FRAN moving to the top of the bid, even know their ask's are very high.
My question is, is this because they need shares bad?
Could this be the sign of a run? I remember seeing this thing happen before it ran like...30%
Have a GREAT day!
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
Yes, if you have done your DD you know the PPS will rise once again. Weak hands are what they are weak, good riddance. People who are selling will be S.O.L. when the news starts to roll-out.Please, have patients and stop bitching about the email floating around, the PPS will rise once again. -
I have bought more today too. Take advantage of the dips!
Just my opinion,
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Im not bitching, I like the new trading range, and I have bought more and will buy more in the future.My point about sharing the email, is that people are talking about the email on the messageboard. No, people arent posting it, but people are making references to what it contains. This is wrong. The MM's do read RB and other boards, and use it to their advantage. All I'm saying is for everyone here to be more careful with sensitive information in the future.
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
"...sensitive information..."
The only "sensitive information" that came out of that email was the indirect fact that it will be a little longer before any news will be released and that is based on a person's own actual perception. Weak hands sold on this perception and as a result started the chain of weak PPS selling. There was NO SENSITIVE INFORMATION posted in Mr.Fleming email. If there was any information "sensitive" it never made it in that email. -
[This message has been edited by m_h13021 (edited January 09, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Can I ask a question?I see GVRC and FRAN moving to the top of the bid, even know their ask's are very high.
My question is, is this because they need shares bad?
Could this be the sign of a run? I remember seeing this thing happen before it ran like...30%
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
I respect you and your opinion, I'm not going to argue
As do I, really! That is why this is an open forum for opinions. I did not post to start an argument.
Cabbage, until today I have agreed with all you have posted. I believe today was a fluke. As stated by others this is just my opinion, and by the looks I am in the minority. - Marty
Snowball effect is what appears to have happened....remember when we dropped from .049 to .028...we rebounded.
So this isn't that bad....
Stock is oversold, great news on the horizon, what a great combination for a big run....
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
As do I, really! That is why this is an open forum for opinions. I did not post to start an argument.Cabbage, until today I have agreed with all you have posted. I believe today was a fluke. As stated by others this is just my opinion, and by the looks I am in the minority. - Marty
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[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited January 09, 2004).]
Bet I agree with you, it is a moot point. IMO we will crawl back up into the 5's before any news comes out, and will just give us a stronger base to launch off.
100 > I need shares
200 > I need shares badly but dont take it down to get em
300 > Take the price down to get shares....
400 > Trade it sideways based on Supply and Demand
500 > Gap one way or the other, usually to the direction
of the 500 trade. Sometimes -if in the middle -keep the price right where it is.
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
I'm glad we can have differences of opinion without arguing, that's what makes this board stand out from all the rest.Bet I agree with you, it is a moot point. IMO we will crawl back up into the 5's before any news comes out, and will just give us a stronger base to launch off.
quote:
Originally posted by millek:
IMO. The TA of chart is better today. We are bouncing off of the 32day Moving average and the lower trend line. This is normal price action. Sure we all want it to go up fast, but, this is much more healthy for a stock with real substance to their business plan. Not only do they have a plan, but, they will have the finances to carry it out.
And to add, the MM's want this price to go up as much as we do, they just want all the shares they can get, it means more money in their pocket. If you look at Time and Sales this morning, see how many buys and sales went through at the same # of shares back to back, with only .001 difference in price. They want us to think the share holders are unloading shares with this tactic, they may get a few more. Hold strong, our day will come. Thanks Ken
Over the last few months...
High .015 Pullback To .0071 or 53 %
High .039 Pullback To .014 or 64 %
High .049 Pullback To .026 or 47 %
Recent High High .061 (Few Days Ago)
Pullback Possibilities
53% Pullback To 0.0287
64% Pullback To 0.0220
47% Pullback To 0.0323
All numbers have been rounded.
Latest Quote Info.
Bid 0.039
Ask 0.041
Last 0.039
I hope my numbers are correct.
I have checked them twice.
Paul
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Let not the rich man glory in his riches.
[This message has been edited by PAUL (edited January 09, 2004).]
If thats true, then we are WAY oversold
It's funny because I posted this on the RB when it was trading at the 0.02 level 2+ months ago and retracing back to 0.016!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Hey guys, just dropping by a little bit. I have no problem seeing this baby trade sideways until big things come very soon. I mean that's the point of saying that you're long right? I've been long and plan on being very long so why should I care about a little fluctuation when I'm not even looking at selling, doesn't make any sense!It's funny because I posted this on the RB when it was trading at the 0.02 level 2+ months ago and retracing back to 0.016!
GLTA!
TRUE LONGS will reap the TRUE REWARD.Buy @ least 100K and HOLD LONG for @ least year.
We've built a strong support while reaching 0.061 so the pullback shouldn't be as big as the previous ones. I think our new support is right here @ 0.04
quote:
Originally posted by PAUL:
Food for thought.....Over the last few months...
High .015 Pullback To .0071 or 53 %
High .039 Pullback To .014 or 64 %
High .049 Pullback To .026 or 47 %
Recent High High .061 (Few Days Ago)
Pullback Possibilities
53% Pullback To 0.0287
64% Pullback To 0.0220
47% Pullback To 0.0323All numbers have been rounded.
Latest Quote Info.Bid 0.039
Ask 0.041
Last 0.039
I hope my numbers are correct.
I have checked them twice.Paul
[This message has been edited by Moose (edited January 09, 2004).]
The stock is oversold at this point and is bouncing back nicely. To the newbies, pay attention VERY CLOSELY so that in the future when we trade at a higher level you don't freak on every retracement!
GLTA!
I especially like how we have all of those exact trades going through, but only .0001 difference in price.
The MM's sure pounded it to us..they are good.
I'm sure they are thanking the weak hands for being so easily scared. Sometimes I wish I could see them laugh hard when they successfuly scare newbies and weak hands!
GLTA!
This shows you two things...one that a huge gain in one week is not a good thing, doesn't build solid support like we are building here... and two that you should never look ahead into fairytale land expecting a run to continue on forever.
Down days will happen, they key is too look at the week/month as a whole, following day by day will only cause some sleepless nights and very long weekends...
goodluck
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Many of you were wondering what a pump-n-dump is, did you see IBZT this week? Now that's a pure pump-n-dump for you!
Not too unlike what we have seen PGHI do over the last few months.
What is it that makes it a pump and dump?
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Many of you were wondering what a pump-n-dump is, did you see IBZT this week? Now that's a pure pump-n-dump for you!
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Let not the rich man glory in his riches.
Haha, been there done that, I used to eat, sleep, and breathe PGHI, now I'm WAY up so I just chill and help out the new comers.
quote:
Originally posted by Moose:
You know whats funny...IBZT had a solid week of very green days...and when it finally hit 0.08 I told them to watch for a huge retrace of 50% back to 0.04, but everyone was saying stuff like will see 0.10 or ever 0.25 by friday....and where are they trading now... @ ~0.039This shows you two things...one that a huge gain in one week is not a good thing, doesn't build solid support like we are building here... and two that you should never look ahead into fairytale land expecting a run to continue on forever.
Down days will happen, they key is too look at the week/month as a whole, following day by day will only cause some sleepless nights and very long weekends...
goodluck
I'm not saying that a pump-n-dump necessary means that the stock is bad per say. It means what it means, that they pumped it up with the news of the show, people bought and bought, then they dumped.
If PGHI did the same thing it would be a pump-n-dump too, nothings bad about the stock, it's just how you qualify such big up and down movements based on no real substance.
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by PAUL:
It looks like IBZT has given back ~54%.Not too unlike what we have seen PGHI do over the last few months.
What is it that makes it a pump and dump?
My take of a pump and dump has always been that there was no substance behind the run.
(read HYPE)
I understand what you are saying.
I think much of the run w. IBZT was from NEWS / PR, not hype.
Thanks for taking the time to explain your thoughts.
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Because it ran on the hype of them being on a TV show, then an Expo show, not real substance.I'm not saying that a pump-n-dump necessary means that the stock is bad per say. It means what it means, that they pumped it up with the news of the show, people bought and bought, then they dumped.
If PGHI did the same thing it would be a pump-n-dump too, nothings bad about the stock, it's just how you qualify such big up and down movements based on no real substance.
GLTA!
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Let not the rich man glory in his riches.
In theory you could order a bunch of CMKM if you want. :-)
quote:
Originally posted by eb2:
hey tommy i have a ?(or anyone)i have scottrade and i cant trade these pennies without calling in my orders. i hate that, so somebody suggested freetrade.com part of ameritrade have you heard of it? do you know if you can trade pennies down to the tenth of a cent(very important) in freetradeor not? is there broker that you know of that does? thanks alot
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Let not the rich man glory in his riches.
quote:
Originally posted by eb2:
hey tommy i have a ?(or anyone)i have scottrade and i cant trade these pennies without calling in my orders. i hate that, so somebody suggested freetrade.com part of ameritrade have you heard of it? do you know if you can trade pennies down to the tenth of a cent(very important) in freetradeor not? is there broker that you know of that does? thanks alot
EB I have scottrade also and you can trade the otcbb stocks without calling in. It's the pink sheets that you have to call in.
quote:
Originally posted by eb2:
hey tommy i have a ?(or anyone)i have scottrade and i cant trade these pennies without calling in my orders. i hate that, so somebody suggested freetrade.com part of ameritrade have you heard of it? do you know if you can trade pennies down to the tenth of a cent(very important) in freetradeor not? is there broker that you know of that does? thanks alot
quote:
Originally posted by eb2:
hey tommy i have a ?(or anyone)i have scottrade and i cant trade these pennies without calling in my orders. i hate that, so somebody suggested freetrade.com part of ameritrade have you heard of it? do you know if you can trade pennies down to the tenth of a cent(very important) in freetradeor not? is there broker that you know of that does? thanks alot
i think we might see some positive press for both pghi and ibzt again soon that will once again cause them to gain share value. when you get a good fire going it consumes the fuel quickly and if there isnt enough to sustain the blaze it will begin to die back. ibzt needed a solid press release daily to sustain the 5 alarm fire that they started. the pghi fire was built more by investors on threads such as this, and after awhile the same old wet green logs day after day had little effect and even began to smother the fire. i think it is a good idea to let pghi catch up with our expectations of it.
on runs in either direction there will be gamblers buying all of the way to the top and pessimists selling all of the way to the bottom. pump and dump or human nature?
uncle milty
Were do you find these numbers???? the 100,200,300 etc?
100 > I need shares
200 > I need shares badly but dont take it down to get em
300 > Take the price down to get shares....
400 > Trade it sideways based on Supply and Demand
500 > Gap one way or the other, usually to the direction
of the 500 trade. Sometimes -if in the middle -keep the price right where it is.
quote:
Originally posted by cndboy:
Hey Guys,Were do you find these numbers???? the 100,200,300 etc?
100 > I need shares
200 > I need shares badly but dont take it down to get em
300 > Take the price down to get shares....
400 > Trade it sideways based on Supply and Demand
500 > Gap one way or the other, usually to the direction
of the 500 trade. Sometimes -if in the middle -keep the price right where it is.
Go PGHI
Are you saying that the SHARE SIZE is the CODE?
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
You have to have a streamer with the time and sales going through, then you can see when one of those small trades go through.
quote:
Originally posted by PAUL:
Tommy,Are you saying that the SHARE SIZE is the CODE?
I guess that I will confirm when my transfer is done. Or maybe someone else using Scottrade can confirm.
quote:
Originally posted by eb2:
ok sorry i'm trying to sort this out so bear with me. what's the diff between nasdaqbb and nasdaqotc. thats how it appears on my screen. i cant trade pghi down to the tenth without calling it in. can you guys? is something wrong? i cant put a limit order in for say .045. only 04 and 05 is accepted. thanks for the help.
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
eb2, that's not what the site says, it says that you can trade up to 4 decimals with pennies (.xxxx)I guess that I will confirm when my transfer is done. Or maybe someone else using Scottrade can confirm.
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
eb2, that's not what the site says, it says that you can trade up to 4 decimals with pennies (.xxxx)I guess that I will confirm when my transfer is done. Or maybe someone else using Scottrade can confirm.
I can confirm...I have scottrade and I have made trades with PHGI to the 3rd decimal. You can buy and sell at the sub-penny levels. ~alex
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by aawhite12:
I can confirm...I have scottrade and I have made trades with PHGI to the 3rd decimal. You can buy and sell at the sub-penny levels. ~alex
[This message has been edited by Kaged (edited January 09, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by Kaged:
Tommy,
I also have a Scottrade acount. You can trade pennies and sub pennies up to 4 decimals. However, Pink sheets are done over the phone @ $22.00 per trade plus .005 of the total amount. That was the main reason I transferred most of my pennies to Freetrade.
Kaged
[This message has been edited by Kaged (edited January 09, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Anyone know what the live level-II is showing? I'm trying to buy more. Can a brotha get some help?
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Let not the rich man glory in his riches.
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Anyone know what the live level-II is showing? I'm trying to buy more. Can a brotha get some help?
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Anyone know what the live level-II is showing? I'm trying to buy more. Can a brotha get some help?
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
You won't fill easily, people think that there's a lot of retail buying or selling going on based on the look of the volume alone but the MM's got 5.5M shares early this morning and got even more now. That's the reason for the spread! They are loading up BIG TIME because they know that things are coming soon!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Let's see if we'll have an end of day run!
.043x.045
nice finish today. hopefully we'll see it continue into next week. have a great weekend everybody!
The stock was simply overbought at the 0.06 level in anticipation of the new website and news. Since it was pushed back, traders and short term investors got out and it became oversold today, hence the bounce back.
We got rid of the weak hands in the last 3-4 trading days, now the bulls are back in control. We'll rise again until the next PR or website release.
Congrats to those who held strong and didn't get scared by the MM's, remember Rom wasn't built in one day!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Hey we closed green on a Friday, I don't want to see anyone complain about it!The stock was simply overbought at the 0.06 level in anticipation of the new website and news. Since it was pushed back, traders and short term investors got out and it became oversold today, hence the bounce back.
We got rid of the weak hands in the last 3-4 trading days, now the bulls are back in control. We'll rise again until the next PR or website release.
Congrats to those who held strong and didn't get scared by the MM's, remember Rom wasn't built in one day!
GLTA!
Go PGHI..
Thanks
Coumars
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
got some of those day traders and week hands out yesterday...Coumars...you better have stayed in...where are you?I especially like how we have all of those exact trades going through, but only .0001 difference in price.
The MM's sure pounded it to us..they are good.
FYI---YOU CAN ELIMINATE THE 22.50 FEE BY PUTTING IN A BUY/SELL ORDER IN FOR THE ROUNDED UP/DOWN CENT. IT IS JUST LIKE PUTTING IN A MARKET ORDER. FOR INSTANCE: PGHI BID .044 ASK .045. YOU PUT BUY ORDER IN FOR .05 AND IT WILL BUY AT THE ASK OF .045. SAME WITH SELLING. PUT SELL ORDER IN FOR .04 AND IT WILL SELL AT THE BID OF .044. THIS TOTALLY ELIMINATED THE NEED TO CALL IN AND ALSO THE 45.00 FEE. 22.50 AND BUY AND 22.50 TO SELL.
I REALLY LIKE SCOTTRADE FOR PENNIES BECAUSE YOU CAN CALL THEM ON THE PHONE AND THEY WILL ANSWER. IN FOUR YEARS OF DAY TRADING I HAVE ALWAYS REACHED THEM AND SOMEONE ANSWERS BY THE 3RD RING OR IT GOES TO THE CENTRAL OFFICE AND THEY CAN HELP YOU. THIS IS GREAT WHEN YOU ARE ON THE ROAD AND WANT TO CHECK A BID/ASK OR CHANGE AN BUY/SELL ORDER. ALSO YOU CAN STAY ON THE LINE TILL THE ORDER IS EXECUTED: SOMETIMES VERY IMPORTANT WITH PENNIES AS THEY MOVE SO QUICKLY AND EXECUTION CAN MEAN THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN A PANIC SELL. (BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT)I HAVE TRIED TO CONTACT AMERTRADE BY PHONE AND HAVE BEEN ON HOLD FOR UP TO 10 MIN. ALTHOUGH I LIKE HOLDING MY LONGS WITH AMERITRADE.
SCOTTRADE HAS A MUCH BETTER REAL TIME STREAMER THAN AMERITRADE OR E-TRADE. IMHO I HAVE MARGIN ACCOUNTS IN ALL AND USE THE SCOTTRADE STREAMER DAILY. ALSO MUCH MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE FROM MAIN SCREEN FOR CHARTS AND FINANCIALS. I ALSO LIKE THE REAL TIME WALLSTREET STREAMING NEWS THAT YOU CAN SET UP ON YOUR SCREEN. ESPECIALLY DOW JONES HOT STOCKS NEWS HIGHLIGHTS AND INSTANT NEWS OF MERGERS/AQUISTIONS AND QUARTERLY ETC ETC. ALL FREE WITH ACCOUNT OF $500.00.
HOPE THIS HELPS.
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DIANA
Now think about the fact that we're opening a distribution center in KY right now with more to come. There's really gonna be no competition!
I talked to JF about this and he said, to his knowledge, there are no other online game rental companies with more than one distro center. This is a huge leg up. In a matter of weeks or even days we will have double the # of distro centers that our competitors have and will be able to further our already #1 rated customer service. That's right. VeeGeez is rated #1 in customer service in this market.
[This message has been edited by ignorantbliss (edited January 09, 2004).]
Thats an increase of around 1,600!
I'm not promoting the "Alexa Toolbar" or anything, but is really a great free download. It blocks pop-ups for you, has a built in google search bar, tells you the ranking of every site you visit, and gives you links to competitor's sites- or similar sites, and its only about a 1/4" wide! http://www.alexa.com oh and allstocks is jumping in the rankings too, now 37,986 up from 40,something a few days ago
IgnBliss - I like that post. Yesireee!
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Just wanted to let everyone know where we stand in the online game rental market. Right now Gamefly is out biggest competitor. However, I called their customer support today and they only have one distribution center. It's in Santa Monica, CA and they said it takes about 5 days to ship to the East Coast.Now think about the fact that we're opening a distribution center in KY right now with more to come. There's really gonna be no competition!
I talked to JF about this and he said, to his knowledge, there are no other online game rental companies with more than one distro center. This is a huge leg up. In a matter of weeks or even days we will have double the # of distro centers that our competitors have and will be able to further our already #1 rated customer service. That's right. VeeGeez is rated #1 in customer service in this market.
[This message has been edited by ignorantbliss (edited January 09, 2004).]
Will be busy at work for the next couple of tradeing days and not too much time to spend on the computer.
Good to see that we are tradeing sideways and gaining a little before the breakout.
Magoo
WVMayor
quote:
Originally posted by phantom1107:
IgnBliss - CEO of Netflix stated in several
interviews, that he's focused on aquiring another 3,500 subscribers...just doing the
movie rentals. No indication whatsoever of an
interest in games. Cheers!
[This message has been edited by ignorantbliss (edited January 10, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by phantom1107:
IgnBliss - CEO of Netflix stated in several
interviews, that he's focused on aquiring another 3,500 subscribers...just doing the
movie rentals. No indication whatsoever of an
interest in games. Cheers!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by j160e:
[B]With some talk of Netflix, maybe some who haven't seen these facts before might find them interesting. I posted this info last
quote:
Originally posted by phantom1107:
IgnBliss -
I'll email you when I get back home, in
about 45 minutes from now.
quote:
Originally posted by realityinc21:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kaged:
[B]Tommy,
I also have a Scottrade acount. You can trade pennies and sub pennies up to 4 decimals. However, Pink sheets are done over the phone @ $22.00 per trade plus .005 of the total amount. That was the main reason I transferred most of my pennies to Freetrade.
Kaged
KAGED AND TOMMY,FYI---YOU CAN ELIMINATE THE 22.50 FEE BY PUTTING IN A BUY/SELL ORDER IN FOR THE ROUNDED UP/DOWN CENT. IT IS JUST LIKE PUTTING IN A MARKET ORDER. FOR INSTANCE: PGHI BID .044 ASK .045. YOU PUT BUY ORDER IN FOR .05 AND IT WILL BUY AT THE ASK OF .045. SAME WITH SELLING. PUT SELL ORDER IN FOR .04 AND IT WILL SELL AT THE BID OF .044. THIS TOTALLY ELIMINATED THE NEED TO CALL IN AND ALSO THE 45.00 FEE. 22.50 AND BUY AND 22.50 TO SELL.
I REALLY LIKE SCOTTRADE FOR PENNIES BECAUSE YOU CAN CALL THEM ON THE PHONE AND THEY WILL ANSWER. IN FOUR YEARS OF DAY TRADING I HAVE ALWAYS REACHED THEM AND SOMEONE ANSWERS BY THE 3RD RING OR IT GOES TO THE CENTRAL OFFICE AND THEY CAN HELP YOU. THIS IS GREAT WHEN YOU ARE ON THE ROAD AND WANT TO CHECK A BID/ASK OR CHANGE AN BUY/SELL ORDER. ALSO YOU CAN STAY ON THE LINE TILL THE ORDER IS EXECUTED: SOMETIMES VERY IMPORTANT WITH PENNIES AS THEY MOVE SO QUICKLY AND EXECUTION CAN MEAN THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN A PANIC SELL. (BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT)I HAVE TRIED TO CONTACT AMERTRADE BY PHONE AND HAVE BEEN ON HOLD FOR UP TO 10 MIN. ALTHOUGH I LIKE HOLDING MY LONGS WITH AMERITRADE.
SCOTTRADE HAS A MUCH BETTER REAL TIME STREAMER THAN AMERITRADE OR E-TRADE. IMHO I HAVE MARGIN ACCOUNTS IN ALL AND USE THE SCOTTRADE STREAMER DAILY. ALSO MUCH MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE FROM MAIN SCREEN FOR CHARTS AND FINANCIALS. I ALSO LIKE THE REAL TIME WALLSTREET STREAMING NEWS THAT YOU CAN SET UP ON YOUR SCREEN. ESPECIALLY DOW JONES HOT STOCKS NEWS HIGHLIGHTS AND INSTANT NEWS OF MERGERS/AQUISTIONS AND QUARTERLY ETC ETC. ALL FREE WITH ACCOUNT OF $500.00.
HOPE THIS HELPS.
POWER MARKET TRADER by E*TRADE is the BEST!!!
9.95 comm/trade (OTC-BB)...regardless of how many shares.EX.Buy 1million shares of PGHI w/ 9.95 comm.
Cheers to 2000 pennies.
That's for that info. Grade = A+
Looooong and Strooooong!!!
IgnBliss - You got mail.
For all those who held on....good job. Some of the "old timers" in PGHI know that I learned this the hard way back when this ran from subpenny to .039 the first time.
I logged on one morning to find the MM's had taken it down to .018 and panicked. Even though I had done my DD and believed the company was on to something....emotion took over. I sold my entire position (for a gain at the time.....but all I could see was all the profit slipping away). Not long after I sold, it started back up. I was forced to buy back in at higher prices. I still do not have the same size position I had way back in October (but today's dip helped me squeek a little closer)! I wish my average pps was between .006 and .008 like it was then! With today's buy, my average is closer to .03.
Its never easy to watch the retracements, but once you've been through a few, you will realize that its the normal course of action. PGHI has a lot going for it. Be careful not to miss the ride!
PSU
I was planning on selling a small portion of PGHI in the "near" future (April-May, depending on price), but keeping the bulk of it until 2005-06. I don't think it will get much higher than .30 by spring, so that is probably where I will sell the short term shares. However, I will keep several hundred K for more than 1 year. I'm pretty sure JF wants to be listed on NASD fairly soon, so all the big players can see PGHI (or GMFX, whatever it is then). What is the most likely course of action PGHI will take? If they are ever going to repeat the success of NFLX, they need to reduce the O/S by a LOT. Just looking for some input on when everyone thinks a reverse split would occur and at what ratio.
Thanks guys,
Fozzy
quote:
Originally posted by fozzy:
Hey guys,
I've been thinking about the subject of a reverse split for some time now and could use a little discussion to help me get a clearer vision for the future (6-18 months down the road). At what price level do you think JF would initiate a reverse split? .50? .30? And at what ratio? 1:5? 1:4? I think these are important questions we all need to think about (those who are REAL LONG anyway).I was planning on selling a small portion of PGHI in the "near" future (April-May, depending on price), but keeping the bulk of it until 2005-06. I don't think it will get much higher than .30 by spring, so that is probably where I will sell the short term shares. However, I will keep several hundred K for more than 1 year. I'm pretty sure JF wants to be listed on NASD fairly soon, so all the big players can see PGHI (or GMFX, whatever it is then). What is the most likely course of action PGHI will take? If they are ever going to repeat the success of NFLX, they need to reduce the O/S by a LOT. Just looking for some input on when everyone thinks a reverse split would occur and at what ratio.
Thanks guys,
Fozzy
Fozzy
XMSR only has 110 mil o/s, so I can see a price of $27 and a market cap of 4 billion. Dunno how the hell SIRI is getting away with it, almost 1 billion o/s w/ 3.4 billion in market cap. Hey, if PGHI goes to 3.4 billion in market cap with 440 million shares, so be it!! I'm sure we'd all be happy with a pps of 7.70!
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Guys, the O/S don't really matter that much. Take satelite radio for example, you have SIRI at 3.50 and XMSR at 28.00, but they have similar market caps. All they need is a share price over $1.00 to stay listed on naz
Their market cap will stay the same- SIRI XMSR is a perfect example of this
quote:
Originally posted by fozzy:
lol, I think it matters a little bit
For example, NFLX has about 25M OS, with a pps of $62 to equal a cap of 1.5B. There is no way PGHI can hope to reach much past $20 with its current OS level. I mean, let's be realistic. 440M OS * $60 pps (what nflx is at, and we HOPE pghi someday) = 26.4B market cap. C'mon....no way! PGHI would need a helluva lot of revenue to justify that! Even NFLX only brings in 230M w/ their cap of 1.5B. So simple math tells us PGHI should bring in 40B in revenue. Ain't gonna happen. I guess there is no "set" number on how high the market cap can be, but there is a psychological one. No one is gonna pay upwards of $20 for PGHI with that many OS, IMO. They are going to HAVE to reduce shares at some point, whether PGHI buys them back or does a reverse split.
Unless I am just delusional here? Don't get me wrong, I would love to not have a reverse split, but it seems imminent. But you are wracking my brain, cabbage...and all on a Saturday! lol
Fozzy
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Fozzy you dont understand, they can have 1 million OS or 200 OS, it doesnt really matter, they just need to set the price above $1, and adjust the OS for the price they choose.Their market cap will stay the same- SIRI XMSR is a perfect example of this
The number of shares is only significant when it is spoken about relatively to:
1) Shareholder's interest and confidence
2) Present/Future of the current/potential Marketshare of the business
All of that said, at this time we need to concentrate on running the business rather than to obsess about the number of shares or a R/S. I believe that GamezNFlix' management have the R/S question in their business plan and will address it in time. For now they need to build the backbone so that the structure is solid enough to sustain the company if/when we do get to a major index.
Questions and comments are welcome.
GLTA!
Tommy
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=PGHI&read=24164
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
That moron on RB posted the CEO's email! I knew that was gonna happen, people always say "oh I promise I won't post it" but there's always one guy who wants to be "cool"!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
That moron on RB posted the CEO's email! I knew that was gonna happen, people always say "oh I promise I won't post it" but there's always one guy who wants to be "cool"!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by slotplayer:
Tommy...don't feel bad. That guy posted some time ago that he owned 100k on RB. Probably got the email from JF like most of us
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
I don't feel bad at all, I just can't believe how dumb some people are that's all!GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by coumars:
Tommy , do you beleive things will improve more monday morning.
My guess is that John probably considered this event as a possibility and chose his words accordingly in his Newsletter/E-mail.
Best to all!
I hope we can keep this type of thing under control next time (if) we're contacted.
"I just hope the fact that someone posted John's e-mail on a public forum such as RB that it doesn't get in the way of John from sharing information with the shareholders in the future."
Gonnaplode, why will this discourage JF to communicate with shareholders? If he doesn't want the public to know about any improvements, he wouldn't share that info with ANYBODY..So, I completely agree with your second paragraph...
GL
quote:
Originally posted by Gonnaplode:
I just hope the fact that someone posted John's e-mail on a public forum such as RB that it doesn't get in the way of John from sharing information with the shareholders in the future.My guess is that John probably considered this event as a possibility and chose his words accordingly in his Newsletter/E-mail.
Best to all!
Now, do you understand why it's upsetting to us longs who witnesses all this already in the past? That's why I asked everyone not to post it here or on ANY board!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by raven76:
There is no reason to get upset or dissapointed, just because the e-mail of CEO has been posted in a public forum..
Are we( the sharesholders of PGHI) a secret organization, so we should hide information from the public?
JF simply informed the shareholders about the current & future developements.."I just hope the fact that someone posted John's e-mail on a public forum such as RB that it doesn't get in the way of John from sharing information with the shareholders in the future."
Gonnaplode, why will this discourage JF to communicate with shareholders? If he doesn't want the public to know about any improvements, he wouldn't share that info with ANYBODY..So, I completely agree with your second paragraph...GL
The problem here is haveing the general plublic read the statment brings doubts into play depending how one interpets the information.
Everyone wants immediate action to see their stocks go up in value quickly.
That is why traders generally tradeing in the penny stocks want to see immediate results and can draw improper conclusions from such a e-mail.
I have spoken with John Flemming about investing a good amount of cash in either the PPM stock or maybe in an other method.
This conversation is private as it is pertaining to my situation and I would never let anyone else know as to any details which was spoken.
Tommy is right and this person is wrong in posting an e-mail sent to him by the CEO.
Anyone who is a shareholder has the right to contact John Flemming and get answers to their questions but keep it between the shareholders and not outside sources.
Magoo
IBZT:
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Authorized: 5,000,000,000
Issued: 1,438,187,864
Float: 1,109,761,389
PGHI:
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Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 468,049,949
Float: 226,284,982
Thanks
Kevin
The LOI is about a DVD firm and this would indeed mean that they will have a third distribution centre in the country. That news coming out would be huge...
pres
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
There was an MSN board for PGHI that got shut down for posting emails from the CEO, old timers will confirm that fact. PGHI's management got pretty upset and asked that board be shut down. Shareholder info is just that, for shareholders, not for the whole publicto know.Now, do you understand why it's upsetting to us longs who witnesses all this already in the past? That's why I asked everyone not to post it here or on ANY board!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by kevinscott:
Anyone still around here that could possibly send me that e-mail that you've all been talking about...
If the above post is not there, sorry you are S.O.L. -
[This message has been edited by m_h13021 (edited January 11, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by coumars:
Tommy, here is an idea, next time , whenever you send email of Fleming's to anyone in our board. Use some key words, which Fleming did not use. We can find out exactly, who posted it, cos u know, to whom u sent with waht kew word.
quote:
Originally posted by coumars:
Tommy, here is an idea, next time , whenever you send email of Fleming's to anyone in our board. Use some key words, which Fleming did not use. We can find out exactly, who posted it, cos u know, to whom u sent with waht kew word.But it is still up on MSN board, Here is a email that was posted.
http://groups.msn.com/GAMEZNFLIX/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=12&LastModified=4675454737811995205Is this not public info?
Morons ... stupid ... stupid ... stupid!!!
And NO it's NOT public information, it was a private email to STOCKHOLDERS ONLY!!
Well apparently everyone doesn't know better. Obviously this email was so widespread without any consideration of who it was sent to that it got into the hands of someone who either didn't care or didn't know of the potential repurcussions.
Hopefully John will continue to provide info to those of us who ask and/or subscribe to his list.
In the future I suggest we all should direct anyone who wants any private information to John.
quote:
Originally posted by McDermottSeattle:
IMO -- This stuff will go on forever, be it this message board, your hometown coffee shop, my wife's hair salon. You can't expect people to keep secrets. Never. John knows this. It is human nature. We need to accept the reality of that. I agree you, want info...go to John. Not that you will get as much info as you might have before these nitwits posted this stuff. Be honest though, you are all very smart people. Are you honestly suprised that this has happened. I am going to ride this ride, keep my mouth shut for the most part and make some serious money. GAMEZNFLIX is the real deal and that is good enough for me.
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
All that I know is that from now on, I will only share emails with people that I already know and trust, period.GLTA!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Tommy, are you the one that referred GK on this thread? i'm signing up and I want to give credit where it's due.
Personally I think that last week we got rid of the short term and day traders who were expecting a PR or the new site. That didn't happen so they sold.
We are now in oversold territory and the accumulation phase is here once again in anticipation of the things to come as outlined in John Fleming's email.
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by coumars:
Tommy, here is an idea, next time , whenever you send email of Fleming's to anyone in our board. Use some key words, which Fleming did not use. We can find out exactly, who posted it, cos u know, to whom u sent with waht kew word.
quote:
Originally posted by kitkatranchgirl:
I am still holding long and strong but i saw this tv ad today of a company like pghi which is gamefly.com . I will do more dd to find out about them and post!!!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by kitkatranchgirl:
I am still holding long and strong but i saw this tv ad today of a company like pghi which is gamefly.com . I will do more dd to find out about them and post!!!
We have about the same delivery time...
but where we win is being a publicy traded company....easier to raise money.
Besides, if you had participated in the PPM, you would have info that points to a VERY bright future. With in a year we are going to be on fire, I just hate how long its taking for things to get done, but John doesn't seem worried, so neither am I
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
PGHI will get more customers over time because of the free advertisement that they will get from the shareholders and public exposure. That's one of the main advantage of being a public company, along with getting more fundings from the PPM and other investment sources.GLTA!
Their one distro center is in Santa Monica, CA and their customer service told me it takes about 5 days to ship to the east coast.
VeeGeez is the only online game rental company with multiple distro centers. Huge advantage and as far as I know the only one publicly traded, another huge advantage.
Personally I'm not worried about any other game rental company. Especially after the new site is released. I'm more worried about how we're going to take over the DVD market too
Here's to GameZNflix ruling the world!!!
quote:
Originally posted by kitkatranchgirl:
I am still holding long and strong but i saw this tv ad today of a company like pghi which is gamefly.com . I will do more dd to find out about them and post!!!
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Gamefly is our #1 competitor, however they are a privately owned company with only one distro center as I posted a couple days ago.Their one distro center is in Santa Monica, CA and their customer service told me it takes about 5 days to ship to the east coast.
VeeGeez is the only online game rental company with multiple distro centers. Huge advantage and as far as I know the only one publicly traded, another huge advantage.
Personally I'm not worried about any other game rental company. Especially after the new site is released. I'm more worried about how we're going to take over the DVD market too
Here's to GameZNflix ruling the world!!!
quote:
Originally posted by VeeHappy:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
[b] Gamefly is our #1 competitor, however they are a privately owned company with only one distro center as I posted a couple days ago.Their one distro center is in Santa Monica, CA and their customer service told me it takes about 5 days to ship to the east coast.
VeeGeez is the only online game rental company with multiple distro centers. Huge advantage and as far as I know the only one publicly traded, another huge advantage.
Personally I'm not worried about any other game rental company. Especially after the new site is released. I'm more worried about how we're going to take over the DVD market too
Here's to GameZNflix ruling the world!!!
Our company is in their start up stages and when we are up and running with the web site and futrher into the marketing plan then Gamefly will not be able to compete.
Private and public companies are two different animals. Privately owned companies cannot compete with the rate of growth which a public company can preform.
Cash flow is the main reason and the cash needed to preform on a nation wide scale is nearly impossiable for a privatly owned company in this type of a market.
P rofits
G rowing
H igher
I ndefinately !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
There is no comparison between privately and publically owned companies as to what their growth rate can compare to each other.Our company is in their start up stages and when we are up and running with the web site and futrher into the marketing plan then Gamefly will not be able to compete.
Private and public companies are two different animals. Privately owned companies cannot compete with the rate of growth which a public company can preform.
Cash flow is the main reason and the cash needed to preform on a nation wide scale is nearly impossiable for a privatly owned company in this type of a market.
ie:
People have to pay 35$ and can have 2 games and 2 DVD's out at the same time. This way many kids could persuade their parents to take a subscription... This could be the big advantage of GamezNflix imo...
pres
I believe that Music downloads could drive people to the website. Imagine Games, Movies and Music all on one site.
Any thoughts on the Music part of it?
Thanks again for all the great DD.
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Richard
I believe that Music downloads could drive people to the website. Imagine Games, Movies and Music all on one site.
Any thoughts on the Music part of it?
Thanks again for all the great DD.
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Richard
bid/ask is all ready at .046x.047
was .044x.045 a lil while ago
looks like the MMs are trying to shake some more shares free-but not many are selling off. good sign i think.
hold strong everyone!
Don't look at your account every single second or you will go crazy with the ups and downs. Why should you care if it goes up and down daily when you say that you're long?
Anyway, that was my two cents, I just REALLY hate it when people say that they're long and they fear every single second of trading, doesn't make any sense to me!
GLTA!
No offense, I wasn't pointing fingers at you, I'm just talking in general.
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by stockguy04:
i never said 2 sell or anything bad about the company... im just asking who thinks the stock will continue to go down until we get some kind of news.. after trading like it has for the past couple days it needs a slight jumpstart and a PR is the best thing especially the long awaited pr
quote:
Originally posted by stockguy04:
does anyone else here think we will just continue 2 go down until we got a PR??
its back upto .042x.044
earlier in the day i saw a trade of 700 shares. does that signal anything? i know of the 1-500 signals
Just kidding I'm not sure if it really means anything but I don't believe it does
quote:
Originally posted by penny_boy:
whenever i see it drop i just wish i had some more funds to buy more. b4 the bid/ask started rising this morning i thought we would slide down to about .042 or .043 and then walk back up to .047 or .048 at the close. but day to day doesnt matter, i kind of want it to stay in the low 4s until i can put some more money in it.its back upto .042x.044
earlier in the day i saw a trade of 700 shares. does that signal anything? i know of the 1-500 signals
Magoo, is that you again today? I'm new on the board but I did read the last 69 @*^%@#& pages of messages.
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Richard
Looks like they tried another pathetic attempt at a shake today. Wish I could have bought more like I did on Friday! The buyers pushed it right back up today...that is a nice sign of support. I hope to see that continue. The MM's know what is coming and will continually try to scare out shares. But, the buyers also know what is coming and should provide plenty of support.
Hold strong....pick up on the dips if you have the cash.....don't give the MM's your shares now when we are on the brink of so many good things!
PSU
GLTA!
The Cup and Handle pattern is a corrective pattern after a powerful advance. Generally the price will increase in a powerful manner over 2 to 4 months, then go through a market correction. The price then will sell off into the correction in a downward trend from 20 to 35 percent from the old high. As the price comes back up to test the old high, it meets sellers that bought from the old high. The price will drift into a sideways pattern with a bias to the downside, for about 4 days to three weeks. The handle is then formed 5 percent below the old high point.
It appears PGHI is trying to form a third Cup & Handle, one after another.
First C&H runs from October 28 through December 2, 2003.
Second C&H runs from December 2, 2003 through January 2, 2004.
Third C&H now appears forming beginning January 2, 2004 through today, January 12, 2004.
I have never owned a stock that formed three C&H in succession. If PGHI does that, and forms the third C&H as it appears to be doing – the future of PGHI is very bright.
jwhite2913
http://www.stockta.com/cgi-bin/analysis.pl?symb=PGHI&num1=1&cobrand=&mode=stock
Thanks for everything.....
quote:
Originally posted by ws_bbl:
Hi board,
Does anyone knows if there's a minimum of shares to be hold before one can participate in the PPM. I have a relative that wants to go for it but he's not yet shareholder. He's not an active trader so this would be an extremely good oportunity to get them cheap and hold, right?Thanks for everything.....
GLTA!
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Richard
quote:
Originally posted by smcapvalgrochart:
Would someone please confirm something for me and maybe elaborate on it. John Fleming holds some insider shares of Ford (F). I draw the conclusion that he is a former Vice President. Thanks in advance, I read 69 pages of messages this weekend and didn't see anything mentioned about it.
quote:
Originally posted by phantom1107:
TOMMY - You have mail.
GLTA!
Just thought I would check in and let you know that I am still around and holding long and strong.
I have been burried at work and not to much time to post much when we are tradeing sideways.
Keep up the good work
Magoo
You guys are awesome, a lot of you newbies learned a lot and it's now your turn to take the reins of this stock.
GLTA!
Tommy
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cabbage22 - thank technical analysis for God
MACD neg divergence shouldn't last more than 4-6 days, and we'll be right back at stokes 20- yeee haaa
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Matthew Taber
I totally agree PGHI is going to be a big winner for all us longs.The potential for this compnay is amazing.Looking forward to the next trading level .1 at least imo.
Chris
quote:
Originally posted by matthewtaber:
I got in today decided to join the party. I've been doing a lot of research and I can't find any real negatives about this company looks like it could be a big winner. I'm in for the long run. It doesn't look like a dollar is out of reach for this company. I expect to see it in a little over a years time.
about 250k volume so far on 16 trades, about 16k per trade
could this be the calm before another storm (up)?
Guys its just a case of sit and wait this will go up.Most of the longs have decided to just Lurke and say nothing....its time some of us newbies keep the board going.....
quote:
Originally posted by Bazooka:
i got in @ 0.045 for 4000 shares.. Hope to see it move up this week :)
I think yuo will have just about till Friday to accumalate atr these Prices, Can see this baby move back up to .05 level in anticipation of whats to come..Best of luck with your buying
quote:
Originally posted by Bazooka:
I'm just going to try and accumulate as much shares as I can over the next couple of weeks, I just hope it dosnt sky rocket before I can get as much as I want.
This wait might be for a couple of days. I am not expecting news for atleast a week...but anything can happen.
For now it looks like the MM's are saying you can sell, but your going have to pay a high price to get in.
I remember on a friday it started out slow and then out of no where CRWN raised his bid, next thing you know we were off to the races.
All the trading going on right now is just between the MM's....so hold strong and you will be rewarded.
GTLA
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
and he rasies is two points above the rest....he must realy need shares bad
If I may quote Mach:
Future's So Bright!!
j160e
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Matthew Taber
For myself, I put very tight stops on all my trades. If the trade doesnt go my way, I sell for a small loss. The trick to winning in pennys is conservation of capital.
quote:
Originally posted by matthewtaber:
I've only been trading for 8 months, but two things I've learned is don't sell at a loss and you have to be really patient sometimes!!!
Bet you dont have stope too close to .04 ;-) I know you are a long investor in pghi..
Strong hands will get strong gains with this one people, don't settle for less!
-Marc
quote:
Originally posted by john19623:
Ok all, I feel the need to post what I am thinking for all the Newbies out there, cause I am one.
I have been so burned in the stock market over the years. Especially in the penny market. My wife about shoots me every time I get back in. I have been resisting my emotions since I bought in at .048 to jump. (I invested my only savings of 5000.00) especially when it went to .027 like a day or two after I bought. But I have reminded myself that every penny stock that I have been in in the past has had a huge float, has had a questionable product, has had a questionable CEO, has had bashers that actually made sense, and the MM's could do anything they wanted. They were all a 100% gamble. I lost on most every one of them.
Having said all that, My logic and knowledge because of this board has kept me in. We have a relatively small float, we have a GREAT product mirrored after an incredible business plan (NETFLIX) Our CEO is VERY above board, any bashers that show up are stupid, and the MM's hands are virtually tied because of the only law to protect us here, they can't naked short due to the symbol change coming up. DONT LET YOUR HEART WORK ON YOU HERE. Don't let a few slow days and a few dumb investors selling make you question your decision. Your decision is a VERY sound one as well as mine. I am so excited here because it is actually going to happen and SOON!
quote:
Originally posted by Brada777:
IS it too late to get in? I am also a newbie but have been following it like a hawk. I would like to pour about 55,000 shares in my pocket? Any suggestions...
For the newbies, hold strong, the time to panic and bail was when it was at .06 resistance for two days last week. Right now is when the weak hands and the wannabe traders are bailing. The smart traders sold above .05cents.
Patience is definitely the key here. We know there is good news on the way that will propel the stock over these levels. I'm not expecting to see this investment fully valued in 2004. There will be many overbought and oversold situations in the years to come. Learn to read the charts and time your entry levels. IMO, between .035 and .004 is the entry level.
I'm not an expert by any means but I have increased my profits dramatically over the last few years by learning to read the charts.
Two good books: 1) A Beginners Guide to Short Term Trading by Toni Turner is a great book to get the basics. 2) Japanese Candlestick Charting Techniques by Steve Nison or any book by him is mandatory reading. Are books expensive or is lack or knowledge more expensive?
Good luck to all.
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Richard
on the delayed one theres 8 MMs on teh bid of .04. wanna know if those are still holding.
All eight are still holding .04. Support here looks strong, but don't be surprised if the MM's try to scare out more shares by dropping below at some point. Just keep in mind that we know good things are coming. DO NOT SELL FOR A LOSS with this stock at this point! If you have cash, use it as an opportunity to get a bigger position....it will pay off in the not too distant future IMO!
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by penny_boy:
can somebody post the real-time level IIon the delayed one theres 8 MMs on teh bid of .04. wanna know if those are still holding.
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
Now .04 x .042 (8x2)
I'm trying to come up with some cash to send to my Freetrade account. If possible, I want to have some cash on hand to add if this does go under .04.
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Hey PSU, still buying on the dips? I hope they break through the .04's so I can get some rock bottom prices!
More good news!
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quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Well, just talked to VeeGeez, new site will NOT be up in next two weeks, thats all they know. They are waiting for Roy Vella to finish the site....
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15:37:08 .042 300
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Well, just talked to VeeGeez, new site will NOT be up in next two weeks, thats all they know. They are waiting for Roy Vella to finish the site....
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Well, just talked to VeeGeez, new site will NOT be up in next two weeks, thats all they know. They are waiting for Roy Vella to finish the site....
You just simply asked, and they blatantly said its not going to be up at least for the next two weeks, ending with "thats all we know". Did you get a name over there, of who yah spoke with? I am not discounting your information, just would like to know who made the statements. Thank you. -Marty
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
You just simply asked, and they blatantly said its not going to be up at least for the next two weeks, ending with "thats all we know". Did you get a name over there, of who yah spoke with? I am not discounting your information, just would like to know who made the statements. Thank you. -Marty
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quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
"I can say for sure that it will not be ready in the next two weeks"Thats what they said. I simply emailed VeeGeez and they responded. The also said that it was a delay with Roy, and when he was done, then they would have an exact date of when its going to be done.
Would you be willing to forword this to me? -
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quote:
Originally posted by drwright68:
Why in the world are you guys giving the mm's the info to take your heads off? enough said.
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quote:
Originally posted by drwright68:
Why in the world are you guys giving the mm's the info to take your heads off? enough said.
my take exactly. loose lips sink ships. as i said before, it's time to let pghi try to catch up with our expectations of it.
uncle milty
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
m_h
email them for yourself, last time something got forwarded it eventually got posted.
Just what I thought. You have just told everyone here in this thread the information that it contained? Right? I wanted to view the email as a verification of your quotes and so on. The information that it entails has already been posted.
When, I have emailed VeeGeeZ in the past to ask anything about operations I never got a response. If it was a question concerning my account, I was responded to almost immediately.
Alright, end of subject. Thank you. -Marty
Don't anyone take this as me saying PGHI is a bad investment. I am still invested heavily and also participated in the PPM.
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
Just what I thought. You have just told everyone here in this thread the information that it contained? Right? I wanted to view the email as a verification of your quotes and so on. The information that it entails has already been posted.When, I have emailed VeeGeeZ in the past to ask anything about operations I never got a response. If it was a question concerning my account, I was responded to almost immediately.
Alright, end of subject. Thank you. -Marty
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quote:
Originally posted by zo:
Hey BetNit...I hope you didn't take it the wrong way...I know you meant nothing but good...And if anyone is guilty, it's us playing the greed game against you...But i just don't want to see another panick...But you've done great and keep it up...No hard feelings...zo...
I think we should all just take a step back before we post something that could be helpful to the MM's. Could they get the info themselves...maybe....do they have time to contact every company personally....I doubt it.
If you get information privately from VeeGeez or JF....treat it as such. We know good news is coming. If it is tomorrow...great....next week great....two weeks...great....the point is....it is coming. Let JF tell the world at his timetable. Maybe the MM's don't read every thread....but the weak investors or daytraders do. They will give the MM's all they need to know by their actions.
When JF's email was forwarded to anyone and everyone last week there was solid support at .05. But, with a bunch of people jumping out thinking they had time to play with their funds....that support disappeared in a hurry.
Good things are coming for those with patience!
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by zo:
I understand what you mean...This is one of the few message boards that has honesty and rialibility connected with it...But some shareholders will look at these info and see a couple of sells go through and panick...You know all about it...I'm not angry at all, because you've been a great help to this messege baord...But i like the email JF sent to his list of people...He meant it for those people...But it got out...And i'm sure the email sent to was meant for you and those who email them personally...In other words, i'm sure no one wants anything that will bring the price down posted...Some shareholders will just panick...But i know you ahd no intensions of that and all you wanted to do was be honest and share the info...And i respect you for that...zo...
01.13.2004 _____________
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 469,074,949
Float: 230,425,696
01.09.2004 _____________
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 468,049,949
Float: 226,284,982
12.15.2003 _____________
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 440,799,949
Float: 197,361,116
________________________
Per Interwest Transfer Company 01/13/2003
(801)277-1400
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thats about 580,000 (minimum price of .02 per share) if it all wen't to the PPM, some one correct me if my math is wrong......even half of that would be 290,000
Thats great money for the company.
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
Share Data:01.13.2004 _____________
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 469,074,949
Float: n/a01.09.2004 _____________
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 468,049,949
Float: 226,284,98212.15.2003 _____________
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 440,799,949
Float: 197,361,116
________________________
Per Interwest Transfer Company 01/13/2003
(801)277-1400
i like pghi long and hope it goes up because of what it is doing instead of how it is being discussed. i also hope it doesn't go down according to how it is discussed.
uncle milty
GL
quote:
Originally posted by zo:
I understand what you mean...This is one of the few message boards that has honesty and rialibility connected with it...But some shareholders will look at these info and see a couple of sells go through and panick...You know all about it...I'm not angry at all, because you've been a great help to this messege baord...But i like the email JF sent to his list of people...He meant it for those people...But it got out...And i'm sure the email sent to was meant for you and those who email them personally...In other words, i'm sure no one wants anything that will bring the price down posted...Some shareholders will just panick...But i know you ahd no intensions of that and all you wanted to do was be honest and share the info...And i respect you for that...zo...
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
am i correct on assuming what those numbers mean?
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
Ask JF! I did. I added to my position.PSU
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quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
We can assume that some of that 29 million difference of issued shares from december 15th is for the PPM....
The PPM shares are not registered. -
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
am i correct on assuming what those numbers mean?
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quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
P.S. the MM's do read these boards, wouldn't surprise me at all if we break through .04 tomorrow. Time to accumulate.
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
I'll be ready to pick up more if they do! Got some funds moved around today and they'll be ready for action tomorrow!
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
so my assumptions are wrong?
Unfortunately this time, your assumption is wrong. - Marty
I think that there is a lot of people that will buy if this thing gets below .04. I said I was done buying, but if this thing drops below .038 then I will be buying some more. Especially with news only a few weeks away.....
The .02's are long gone...and I will step out on a limb to say that, unless something drastic happens, we will never see them again. This company has a lot of GREAT pr's they can release at any time. Things that have already been done, just not anounced. Tomorow, or Thursday, or Friday could be a release of something that would get us into the 05s agian easy. Don't be caught with your pants down. buy in the dips. Sell at, or near the highs.......
quote:
Originally posted by phantom1107:
I just hope traders don't decide to pull out
thinking they have another 2 weeks to go trade elsewhere. No doubt there are those who
do trade on emotion. Any large dip could signal something "wrong" even to new investors, even though we know NOTHING is wrong...ya know? My 2 cents...BYE!
I've been in the biz since 1995 and rode the internet wave to the top and back down to the bottom. PGHI many never be a "netflix", but there is a lot of room on the second tier and GamezNFlix is positioning itself to take a solid position.
Very comfortable with sitting on this one for at least a year. Netflix went from .25 to $69.00. I am holding this one until $5.00.
Mayor
Thanks
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Jesus Christ
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Wooter
Gift certificaes and referral program are on it...
Good job, worth waiting for imo...
pres
quote:
Originally posted by Wooter:
That's pretty tight!
IgnorantBliss- I read you are getting a new Xbox to support your fix. From my experience I think you would like Halo and Splinter Cell. Two of the best games I have ever played, and I have played way too many. Halo might be the best game ever made and I think Splinter Cell would go with your military background.....Really cool game, and hard too, which I liked.Wooter
Say it with me.. Late Fees Suck!!!
Holding stronger and stronger. They won't get my shares.
Livios.
quote:
Originally posted by Moose:
new site looks great...everyone check it out soon, will probably get taken down once they see all the excess trafic...
www.dev-veegeez.com
Magoo
quote:
Originally posted by stockguy04:
dev-veegeez?... is that the new site name what happend to .. veegeez.com.. am i missing some thing
quote:
Originally posted by drwright68:
Why in the world are you guys giving the mm's the info to take your heads off? enough said.
Well, I believe that the posting of the beta-site falls right in line with people's comments about posting information that is questionable(private).
That is what these boards are all about, whether it be positive, negative or neutral as long it is kept within the safe boundaries of not posting confidential information - POST IT!!!
I don't see anyone jumping all over Jesus for posting this? I understand this is a great piece of DD, but BetNitAll also had some important information to share. It was not on a positive note, but was information. -
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
This is good news. I am going to be trying to get some more shares today and help to get this ball rolling again.Magoo
quote:
Originally posted by presumptuous:
Very satisfied with the new site.Gift certificaes and referral program are on it...
Good job, worth waiting for imo...
pres
Likewise, I am grateful for any negative news. Our ability to use this board as a reliable source of information is solely dependant upon our objectivity. If we only permit positive news to be posted, then it will become nothing more than a place for irrational pumping. Also, there is a HUGE
difference between DD that might be negative and baseless negative comments like "this stock sucks" (go to RB for that) ...
Knowing both the positive and negative information has made me feel that much more confident about the stock. If day-traders and weak hands want to overreact to a slight delay in the new site, let them! The true longs will just use it as an opportunity to
add more shares (I know I have)....
Thanks BetNitAll, Mach, Magoo, and all others who are willing to post real DD!
Josh
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
Well, I believe that the posting of the beta-site falls right in line with people's comments about posting information that is questionable(private).That is what these boards are all about, whether it be positive, negative or neutral as long it is kept within the safe boundaries of not posting confidential information - POST IT!!!
I don't see anyone jumping all over Jesus for posting this? I understand this is a great piece of DD, but BetNitAll also had some important information to share. It was not on a positive note, but was information. -
quote:
Originally posted by jesus:
Non-believers, Jesus is here to save you! Here's the website that Lance registered last Friday to test the new site online before the release, anyone wants to sell their shares now?
http://www.dev-veegeez.com[IMG]http://www.dev-
veegeez.com/images/top/logo.gif[/IMG]Oh My LORD!!!!VeeGeeZ new site is realy realy Look Great and Pretty too.
VeeHappy
Registrant:
Veegeez (OJXBYRUVJD)
20838 Alaminos Drive
Saugus, CA 91350
USDomain Name: DEV-VEEGEEZ.COM
Administrative Contact:
Wiseman, Lance (29714374I) lancewiseman@EARTHLINK.NET
Veegeez
20838 Alaminos Drive
Saugus, CA 91350
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(661) 297-7758 fax: 999 999 9999Technical Contact:
Network Solutions, Inc. (HOST-ORG) customerservice@networksolutions.com
13200 Woodland Park Drive
Herndon, VA 20171-3025
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1-888-642-9675 fax: 571-434-4620Record expires on 09-Jan-2006.
Record created on 09-Jan-2004.
Database last updated on 14-Jan-2004 02:21:02 EST.Domain servers in listed order:
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quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
Share Data:01.13.2004 _____________
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 469,074,949
Float: 230,425,69601.09.2004 _____________
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 468,049,949
Float: 226,284,98212.15.2003 _____________
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 440,799,949
Float: 197,361,116
________________________
Per Interwest Transfer Company 01/13/2003
(801)277-1400
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quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
m_h....
If I remember these numbers are pretty small compared to IBZT. And IBZT flew pretty high on some news. .10 I think....so we should realy fly IMO......
Supply and Demand
I agree 100% with your .10 cent price per share assessment. If you are comparing this to IBZT's movement, the PPS should blow by the .10 cent estimate with news. -
That website has a tight look to it too I think. Definitely better than the gamefly one (or any other I've seen) which was important. Simple to understand, hip, cool, flows well, now we have a product to market and advertise!!!!and I like the Lime Green- "You can't do that on television".
Praise Jesus
Originally posted by Ignorant Bliss
Games have come a long way. That thing can keep my attention for hours.
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[This message has been edited by Wooter (edited January 14, 2004).]
y is that?
quote:
Originally posted by penny_boy:
when i refresh this page i get a log-in thing for www.dev-veegeez.comy is that?
quote:
Originally posted by penny_boy:
when i refresh this page i get a log-in thing for www.dev-veegeez.comy is that?
quote:
Originally posted by Moose:
The log in box is coming up because of the picture Jesus posted, he linked it right from that page, therefore everytime you load this page it tries to take that picture from www.dev-veegeez.com and makes you log in
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
The picture posted in VeeHappy post is linked from the dev-VeeGeeZ site, so every time you load this page (roy vellas adding administration access only to the new dev-VeeGeeZ site) a password is requested. -
Remove the picture, removes the log-in hassle. -
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Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Someone please remove the picture or we're going to have to create a new thread!!!
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Someone please remove the picture or we're going to have to create a new thread!!!
quote:
Originally posted by Moose:
12 more post and we will be on page 16...no worries
Vella will be able to see where all the traffic was coming from. Allstocks will be the referrer.
November 2003...
Billy Pidgeon, Partner & Senior Analyst
David Hu, Research Associate
No Major Shake-up This Holiday Season. With 18 percent of 1,000 console gamers indicating that they plan to acquire a PlayStation 2 console, and 14 percent expecting to purchase or receive an XBox by the end of 2004, this year's holiday buying pattern will not dramatically impact the market share of major vendors. Zelos Group expects that Nintendo may erode Microsoft's lead due to increased GameCube sales spurred by the decision to cut prices.
Game Rental Business Adds Ancillary Revenues and Impacts Sales. About one third of respondents indicate that they rent games and these users have a high propensity to use rentals as a means to inform purchase decisions. Moreover, hardcore gamers are more likely to rent games than their avid and casual gamer counterparts. Almost half of hardcore gamers indicate they rent at least one game a month, and almost 20 percent say they rent 5 or more.
Solitary Gaming Remains Prevalent. Despite interest in playing against others in an online environment, gaming remains largely a solitary activity and games that rely on social interaction have a relatively narrow addressable market. Over 73 percent of respondents claim to play games alone almost always or most of the time, and only 2 percent claim that they never play alone.
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Originally posted by chrissy_a:
again good post from rb
November 2003...
Billy Pidgeon, Partner & Senior Analyst
David Hu, Research AssociateNo Major Shake-up This Holiday Season. With 18 percent of 1,000 console gamers indicating that they plan to acquire a PlayStation 2 console, and 14 percent expecting to purchase or receive an XBox by the end of 2004, this year's holiday buying pattern will not dramatically impact the market share of major vendors. Zelos Group expects that Nintendo may erode Microsoft's lead due to increased GameCube sales spurred by the decision to cut prices.
Game Rental Business Adds Ancillary Revenues and Impacts Sales. About one third of respondents indicate that they rent games and these users have a high propensity to use rentals as a means to inform purchase decisions. Moreover, hardcore gamers are more likely to rent games than their avid and casual gamer counterparts. Almost half of hardcore gamers indicate they rent at least one game a month, and almost 20 percent say they rent 5 or more.
Solitary Gaming Remains Prevalent. Despite interest in playing against others in an online environment, gaming remains largely a solitary activity and games that rely on social interaction have a relatively narrow addressable market. Over 73 percent of respondents claim to play games alone almost always or most of the time, and only 2 percent claim that they never play alone.
Tech people will know all this, it's just a simple .htaccess file to protect the main directory of that site. Those of you who got a look at it then good for you, for the others you have to wait until the new site is actually released.
You guys are doing good on this board, I see a lot of smart people here.
Back to lurking.
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by Moose:
The log in box is coming up because of the picture Jesus posted, he linked it right from that page, therefore everytime you load this page it tries to take that picture from www.dev-veegeez.com and makes you log in
Did they honestly think that site would get under the Allstocks PGHI cult-like following radar? Oh well, we got a little sneak preview and it looks nice, plus we already got a screengrab! LOL 
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[This message has been edited by ignorantbliss (edited January 14, 2004).]
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Originally posted by RedBullish:
Hahah... dev-veegeez.com is now password protected.Did they honestly think that site would get under the Allstocks PGHI cult-like following radar? Oh well, we got a little sneak preview and it looks nice, plus we already got a screengrab! LOL
Back to lurking, see you guys later!
Tommy
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
If I was a betting man, that T-Shirt looks like some fine work in Photoshop by Mr.Vella. -
quote:
Originally posted by coumars:
I don't understand, I beleive new website must be under http://www.GameznFlix.com.
No, gameznflix is the new name for pghi.
VeeGeez is staying the same: VeeGeeZ.com
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
No, gameznflix is the new name for pghi.VeeGeez is staying the same: VeeGeeZ.com
quote:
Originally posted by delt16:
can someone post an active link to the snap shot......I missed all the excitement!
[This message has been edited by fozzy (edited January 14, 2004).]
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Originally posted by phantom1107:
Can someone please answer this question?
What possible negative effect, if any, could
PGHI's other subsidaries pose for the the growth of VeeGeez?...revenues, debts, etc.
TIA
[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited January 14, 2004).]
This is a limited time offer as I will be removing my email in a couple of hours.
[This message has been edited by ignorantbliss (edited January 14, 2004).]
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Originally posted by fozzy:
But gameznflix.com is ALSO going to point to the same page as veegeez.com. As well as gameznflix.net, .biz, etc....
Veegeez.com belongs to Veegeez LLC. which is a subsidiary of PGHI.
GamezNFlix.com will be the website for the COMPANY, Veegeez.com will remain veegeez.com and GamezNFlix.com WILL NOT REDIRECT TO Veegeez.com.
Is it clearer now?
Sometimes I wonder if some people bought this stock without understanding one single bit of what's going on really!
Back to lurking!
quote:
Originally posted by coumars:
correct me If i am wrong , so whoever visit gameznflix.com will actualy reach www.veegeez.com. Am I right.
I mean new wesite about to come soon.
did anyone do any DD before they bought?
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Originally posted by Moose:
lol...I was just gonna say the same thing...did anyone do any DD before they bought?
Does this help? lol
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Originally posted by drwright68:
what is pghi?
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Originally posted by tommy:
pghi is the subsidiary of Veegeez.com and the cousin of GamezNFlix.Does this help? lol
More questions?
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Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
What do you mean GameZnflix? What's all this about? I thought this was PGHI?
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Originally posted by tommy:
pghi is the subsidiary of Veegeez.com and the cousin of GamezNFlix.Does this help? lol
Cousins
Is that why they moved to Kentucky
Just kidding!
GLTA!
Back to lurking!
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Originally posted by Magoo:
CousinsIs that why they moved to Kentucky
quote:
Originally posted by delt16:
can someone post an active link to the snap shot......I missed all the excitement!
Do you have an email address?
I seriously can't stop laughing, it hurts!
Somebody ask a question about the CHI, hahaha
Late fees suck! I think I'll use that as my signature. haha
LATE FEES SUCK!
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
Do you have an email address?
joshb1@hotmail.com
I 'm tired, I like to see PGHI running fast, not crawling without legs(PR).
Fund raising(6 mths limit) for PGHI is sitting on the back my head bugging all the time.
Go PGHI run run....
Guys give me a boost.
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Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Wow, every time I look at that site it looks better and better. To the moon!!!Late fees suck! I think I'll use that as my signature. haha
LATE FEES SUCK!
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Originally posted by coumars:
Does anyone have any idea, when next PR ( good news) might be coming.I 'm tired, I like to see PGHI running fast, not crawling without legs(PR).
Fund raising(6 mths limit) for PGHI is sitting on the back my head bugging all the time.
Go PGHI run run....
Guys give me a boost.
GLTA!
I sent you an e-mail request...thanks for your offer....I didn't check the site earlier today because I was at work...figured I would have time this evening.
Tommy, As to the difference between VeeGeez.com and GamezNFlix....don't place a few peoples ignorance of the difference on the larger group...I think most people here do in fact know the difference
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Originally posted by mistikal07:
newbie (to this board that is) checking in to say "Thanks!" to all of those whom contributed to this thread. I've collaborated a group of friends, and with the information given in the previous posts along with their own DD, allowed them to make the decision to invest in this stock long term. Thanks again.
look for possibly one more drop on low volume, leading to flat light trading, and increased accumulation
Looking to double my position next week, might make my whole portfolio a pghifolio
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Techs are showing us approaching middle of "the cup"look for possibly one more drop on low volume, leading to flat light trading, and increased accumulation
Looking to double my position next week, might make my whole portfolio a pghifolio
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Originally posted by drwright68:
Any thoughts on what would happen if an announcement was made about available capital?
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Originally posted by chrissy_a:
Doc if that happens to come out in a PR !!! this thing is out of the ball park. .3 here we come...
2. New site
3. Money in the bank
4. Confirmation of LOI
5. Marketing agreements
Imagine what happens if they announce all of this within the next month... provided that they are working on all of it off course. At the moment wishfull thinking, reality in the near future...???
pres
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Originally posted by presumptuous:
1. Namechange2. New site
3. Money in the bank
4. Confirmation of LOI
5. Marketing agreements
pres
I would take anyone of the above for a release next week, just one! -
let us begin with the money in the bank...
:-)
pres
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Originally posted by presumptuous:
Hmm...let us begin with the money in the bank...
:-)
pres
LAKELAND - Someone found Nemo, and he's in a warehouse in Lakeland. But he won't stay long.
The popular DVD of Disney's animated film ``Finding Nemo'' is among thousands of movies coming and going each day from a nondescript warehouse that serves as the newest distribution center for Netflix Inc., an online movie rental company that is shaking up the industry.
The distribution center, tucked away in rural Lakeland, has operated for about two months and will serve Central Florida, from Sarasota to Daytona. It joins 21 other Netflix movie distribution centers nationwide, including another Florida site in Fort Lauderdale.
Thousands of movies come into the building every morning - and many others are mailed every night to Netflix customers in Florida who have ordered them.
``The target market is people who love movies and hate Blockbuster,'' said Reed Hastings, chief executive officer of the Los Gatos, Calif.-based company.
Netflix is a subscription service that allows people to make an online list of movies they want to see. For $19.95 a month, they get three DVDs at a time by mail. There are no due dates or late fees.
When a customer is done with a movie, he or she mails it back in the postage-paid envelope, and a new one arrives in the mail from their list. The company sends an e-mail notification when it receives returned DVDs and when it sends out new ones.
Netflix has 1.5 million subscribers nationwide - nearly twice as many as a year ago, Hastings said.
Netflix is growing quickly, tapping 3 percent of the video rental market, which is dominated by Blockbuster Inc., Hastings said.
In 2003, consumers spent $4.5 billion renting DVDs, up 55 percent from the previous year, according to the Digital Entertainment Group, which tracks industry information.
``Just the thought of going to a video store that, No. 1, takes time and effort to get to; No. 2, is crowded; No. 3, may not have the movie I'm looking for; and No. 4, I have to go back to and return the movie on time or I get charged a late fee - there is little appealing about that,'' said Derek Brown, an analyst with San Francisco's Pacific Growth Equities, a market maker for Netflix.
Netflix has 15,000 movies and television series - about 10 times the number of titles at the average video rental store.
When a Netflix subscriber in Tampa orders a movie, chances are it would come from the new Lakeland office, and it would be delivered the next day.
``If somebody wanted `Casablanca,' and I didn't have it, it would probably come from Fort Lauderdale or Atlanta,'' said Lance Love, operations manager for Netflix in Lakeland. ``So you don't have to wait for it to come from California.''
About 80 percent of DVDs are delivered next day; most of the rest arrive in two days, Love said.
He wouldn't say how many DVDs the Lakeland operation stocks, but said that the average distribution center receives 5,000 to 30,000 DVDs a day in the mail and ships an equal number.
The operation is kept lean, employing about a dozen people. Hastings said the Lakeland office is similar in size to the Netflix distribution warehouse in Los Angeles. After being open for two years, that office has 50 workers.
As subscribers have flocked to the young company, so have investors. Shares of Netflix have more than tripled in value over the past two years, closing Wednesday at $65.10.
``It's the big new thing in movie rental,'' Hastings said. ``It is steadily transforming the movie business.''
From the Tampa Tribune January 15th, 2004.
1. Preliminary Proxy PRE14A - Completed 11/10/2003
2. Official Notification to Shareholders of matters to be brought to vote within the proxy DEF14A - Completed 11/20/2003
3. Preliminary Informational Proxy Statement PRE14C - Completed 12/11/2003
4. Definitive Informational Statement DEF14C - Completed 01/05/2004
5. Mailing by Interwest Transfer Company(transfer agent) to shareholders of record - Initiated 01/07/2004
*25 business day window to complete - ending 02/12/2004
6. Amended articles filed with State of Nevada for name change - Incomplete
7. Request of a NEW CUSIP#(A number identifying all stocks and registered bonds) - Incomplete
8. Request for a NEW trading symbol - Incomplete
9. Finally NEW symbol being granted from the OTCBB. - Incomplete
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[This message has been edited by m_h13021 (edited January 15, 2004).]
Future is looking good
Hold long and strong
Share Data:
01.13.2004 _____________
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 469,074,949
Float: 230,425,696
01.09.2004 _____________
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 468,049,949
Float: 226,284,982
12.15.2003 _____________
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 440,799,949
Float: 197,361,116
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I just confirmed.....
The PPM shares ARE included in these numbers. The difference between the "Issued" and the "Float" does include the private placement. This does not mean that the whole difference is the PPM, its just included. But 239 million is a big number. Hopefully a large percent of that is the PPM.Future is looking good
Hold long and strongShare Data:
01.13.2004 _____________
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 469,074,949
Float: 230,425,69601.09.2004 _____________
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 468,049,949
Float: 226,284,98212.15.2003 _____________
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 440,799,949
Float: 197,361,116
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Per Interwest Transfer Company 01/13/2003
(801)277-1400
That is awesome news.
Wait the MM will get a hold of this and.....
Thank you, -Marty
It most likely includes things like the 14 million shars the wiseman brothers have.
Thats not too bad. Less then 500 million shares issued. And under 300 million on the float. Some comapnies have 1 billion or more Issued. We are in great shape guys!
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[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited January 15, 2004).]
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I called the number on the bottom of the stats you posted. The lady walked me through what all the numbers meant (The actual number for the float has to be retrieved from PGHI). The difference between the "Issued" and the "Float" is all restricted shares. Including the PPM.It most likely includes things like the 14 million shars the wiseman brothers have.
Thats not too bad. Less then 500 million shares issued. And under 300 million on the float. Some comapnies have 1 billion or more Issued. We are in great shape guys!
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
Movement like this means only one thing....
good news to be released soon. -
Yah see Bet, the MM's read your post!!! -
GLTA!
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
Yah see Bet, the MM's read your post!!! -
Also, this recent pull-back has really confirmed the strength of the stock. There has been absolutely no news (when many expected news) which caused a pull back, but we did not crash. Instead, it was a healthy retracement and we established very strong support levels. In other words, the day-traders left, but the big money did not....
What does that tell you about the future?
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
The stock was WAY oversold and now the bulls are back in control. Everything will be in order again very soon!GLTA!
Unless Roy Vella is working with a team of people (seems he's solo), I would still give it a few weeks. Even the company gave such a timeline.
I believe the real reason they password protected the site was to keep the public from viewing what was really a "work in progress". Plus, they password protected the development domain, not the real one. So they are not uploading any production or final copies yet...
January may be a slow month, but February looks very good
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Originally posted by RedBullish:
From the looks of the site yesterday, they are not anywhere near being done if in fact that was the complete package. None of the links were operational and pretty much all that was completed is the main layout.Unless Roy Vella is working with a team of people (seems he's solo), I would still give it a few weeks. Even the company gave such a timeline.
I believe the real reason they password protected the site was to keep the public from viewing what was really a "work in progress". Plus, they password protected the development domain, not the real one. So they are not uploading any production or final copies yet...
January may be a slow month, but February looks very good
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I believe that the development site was not password protected for a few hours to allow some people, maybe private investors and advertisers, to get a glimpse of what's to come.
GLTA!
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Originally posted by RedBullish:
From the looks of the site yesterday, they are not anywhere near being done if in fact that was the complete package. None of the links were operational and pretty much all that was completed is the main layout.Unless Roy Vella is working with a team of people (seems he's solo), I would still give it a few weeks. Even the company gave such a timeline.
I believe the real reason they password protected the site was to keep the public from viewing what was really a "work in progress". Plus, they password protected the development domain, not the real one. So they are not uploading any production or final copies yet...
January may be a slow month, but February looks very good
Again I believe that they are showing it to some private investors or advertisers.
GLTA!
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Originally posted by john19623:
I don't know much about this stuff, but My son said the link was totally HTML anotherwords a picture of the front page. He said it had nothing to do with the actual page. It was just to show what it was going to look like. Just his professional opinion of course
I had the same problem but by the end of the 2nd day i was able to trade. As soon as the accoutn settles you should be ok. Just keep trying.
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Originally posted by Brada777:
I opened an acct Tuesday with ameritrade tried to buy Wednesday when the funds came available and they are saying I can't trade the OTCBB for 5 days? OUCH could be too late..any suggestions?
I will be going on my trip back east next week. Leaveing on Saturday and returning on Friday. Will be seeing John Flemming on my return trip and asking questions as to placeing a good amount of cash twards the private funding.
Good day today everyone
Magoo
Good things are coming soon!
PSU
Guess my buy order at .041 isn't going to execute today! LOL!
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I just confirmed.....
The PPM shares ARE included in these numbers. The difference between the "Issued" and the "Float" does include the private placement. This does not mean that the whole difference is the PPM, its just included. But 239 million is a big number. Hopefully a large percent of that is the PPM.Future is looking good
Hold long and strong
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Originally posted by PSU90:
BetNit........looks like my source was correct! Nice to hear it from Interwest too.Good things are coming soon!
PSUGuess my buy order at .041 isn't going to execute today! LOL!
Good luck Longs.
quote:
Originally posted by RedBullish:
From the looks of the site yesterday, they are not anywhere near being done if in fact that was the complete package. None of the links were operational and pretty much all that was completed is the main layout.Unless Roy Vella is working with a team of people (seems he's solo), I would still give it a few weeks. Even the company gave such a timeline.
I believe the real reason they password protected the site was to keep the public from viewing what was really a "work in progress". Plus, they password protected the development domain, not the real one. So they are not uploading any production or final copies yet...
January may be a slow month, but February looks very good
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
I have purchased a large amount of shares today.I will be going on my trip back east next week. Leaveing on Saturday and returning on Friday. Will be seeing John Flemming on my return trip and asking questions as to placeing a good amount of cash twards the private funding.
Good day today everyone
Magoo
Bring Home some VeeGeeZ "Late FEES Suck" stickers ok?
Happy Trip Mr Magoo
pres
Those cups and handles seem to show strong/steady growth... not some quick-fix one shot up. This is BIG!
Will try to get more funds to buy more before the BIG dance! I hope those funds come to me soon to be wired on over! I see PROFIT and GROWTH and vice-versa!
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I also bought 545K of FXGP at the dip today, big PR coming up, I hope for a nice play there and then I'll put my profit back into more PGHI if that is possible, I want 3M shares of PGHI! lol
GLTA!
Yes, good things are coming soon!
j160e
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Originally posted by PSU90:
BetNit........looks like my source was correct! Nice to hear it from Interwest too.Good things are coming soon!
PSUGuess my buy order at .041 isn't going to execute today! LOL!
QUOTE]Originally posted by delt16:
I recently contacted John Fleming and received the PPM paperwork. I read over everything but I am still confused about why a company would choose this method of issueing shares. Why not put the 75m shares on the market at the current price? This way they would get more money. Did they choose PPM because they have the option of deeming the shares worthless?? Is the aim to get current PGHI investors to basically hand money over to help the company get a jump start, thus making the pps rise which would inturn put money back into the investors pocket??Any help on this subject would be appreciated.
TIA[/QUOTE]
If you need anymore contact Jeff at ceo@pghi.biz
When you are participating in the PPM, you get some great info about the company. Really opens your eyes to where this company is going. The info is supplied to people that participate in the PPM. I am sure there are some here who have it, and thats why there are so many longs...
This is the easiest money you will ever make. The closest thing you can get to a for sure thing. It won't be too long before these current levels are gone.......Do the PPM......futures soooo bright.
LATE FEES SUCK!
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Originally posted by nitroburn:
I think I would like to participate in the PPM. Does anyone know if it is too late or if there is a deadline? Took me awhile to make up my mind.
Plus the PPM allows for a person to sell only 1% of the total value of the company with in a 90 day period, when the restrictions are lifted.
So if someone happens to own 100 million of those resricted stocks they could only sell 4 million (assuming the issued shares was at 400 million) with in any 90 day period. Stops the stock from crashing...plus less dilution to attract investors....PPM is a great idea for the company...
quote:
Originally posted by delt16:
I recently contacted John Fleming and received the PPM paperwork. I read over everything but I am still confused about why a company would choose this method of issueing shares. Why not put the 75m shares on the market at the current price? This way they would get more money. Did they choose PPM because they have the option of deeming the shares worthless?? Is the aim to get current PGHI investors to basically hand money over to help the company get a jump start, thus making the pps rise which would inturn put money back into the investors pocket??Any help on this subject would be appreciated.
TIA
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Originally posted by slotplayer:
chrissy, could you edit this link or make this post go away. Its got the borders way out of reach. Thanks!
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Originally posted by xceshp:
can you do the ppm on a creditcard
The last few days dip's lowers the PPM price to probablly around
mid .02's per share. $2,500 would get you around 100,000 shares with the PPM
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Originally posted by Brada777:
Since I am so new can someone explain what PPM is?
I am willing to bet we picked up some day and swing traders today...but news is just around the corner.
They could release a PR anytime now......if my memory servs me corect, they released a PR about buying VeeGeez on a friday, so you never know.
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Originally posted by Brada777:
Also is there any hope that this will drop some tomorrow. I would really like to get about 55k more at the .042 level? Any suggestions?
All you can do is try at .042. The MM's like to try shake out shares. They frequently drop the price down on low volume. The risk you take is that the price moves the other way while you're waiting at .042. That is where Level 2 comes in handy.
I was waiting at .041 today and didn't get more. I ended up putting my unused funds elsewhere (ISYN), but if that doesn't move tomorrow, I'll most likely pull them out and use them on PGHI if the price dips that low again. I KNOW that PGHI is going to move soon!
PSU
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Originally posted by Brada777:
Also is there any hope that this will drop some tomorrow. I would really like to get about 55k more at the .042 level? Any suggestions?
Brada....don't get caught chasing this baby...it can go up in a hurry, and as we have seen last week, it can go down in a hurry too....t
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
Brada,All you can do is try at .042. The MM's like to try shake out shares. They frequently drop the price down on low volume. The risk you take is that the price moves the other way while you're waiting at .042. That is where Level 2 comes in handy.
I was waiting at .041 today and didn't get more. I ended up putting my unused funds elsewhere (ISYN), but if that doesn't move tomorrow, I'll most likely pull them out and use them on PGHI if the price dips that low again. I KNOW that PGHI is going to move soon!
PSU
In my opinion: I don't think we are going down tomorow. Wouldn't be suprised if we gapped up.
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Originally posted by Brada777:
I did look back at the 9th looks like it dropped at the begining and then it was all up hill from there. I really need this to get to the .041, .042 level. So I will watch and hope!
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
There are 5 MM's before .042
There was buying going into the close.
Charts are looking great.
One MM at left until .051In my opinion: I don't think we are going down tomorow. Wouldn't be suprised if we gapped up.
Especially since I sent the money the other week. They have more then doubled what I invested!
quote:
Originally posted by nitroburn:
I just recieved the Private Placement information from JF. It is well worth it, and I will try my best to contribute. I would like to put in my post to encourage others here to do the same.
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Yep, I got mine yesterday. $250,000 of them. Looking to be rich by next year
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Originally posted by Brada777:
nitro can you send me the email from John pls. I sent him a request but have yet to hear back from him. It was over 2 hours ago. Thanks
I bought some on the dip at 0.013 today and I hope to make a good amount to put back into PGHI!
Tommy
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From my understanding, both of those are not current.
The current minimum is $2500. This is a fact. Unless JF changed it with in the last couple fo days.
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Originally posted by nitroburn:
What i have heard from others is that the documenta say $5000, but it isnt correct and John is willing to do $2500. Has anyonw here done only $2500?
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
The paper work says that you have to invest a minimum of $5000 and have equity of 1 million dollars.From my understanding, both of those are not current.
The current minimum is $2500. This is a fact. Unless JF changed it with in the last couple fo days.
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You help the company by providing it with funds.
It feels great when you finally receive your stock certificates.
I just got mine today....we are truely providing the comapny with much needed resources.
Hopefully Magoo will come to an agreement with JF to invest a large amount of money. If PGHI reaches its goal of 1.5 million they will be in great shape. Are advertising campaign and dist centers will be fully funded for a while.
quote:
Originally posted by Brada777:
I sent John an email asking about this and he granted an approval for the $2500. But I am in for $5k. GO PGHI!!!LATE FEES SUCK!!!
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
The $1M equity is for authorized purchasers. Anyone who has less than that is unauthorized but according to Rule 144 the company can allow up to 35 individuals to purchase 144 stock (PPM). Therefore, if you are worth less than that and plan on purchasing PPM then you better do it before he gets 35 individuals.
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Obviously some people didn't read the PGHI Offering Document completely.
Roy only does the site design, so thats why there would be no links attached to the buttons. All the programming is done in house by the wiseman brothers.
Remember that the delays in the new website have been due to Roy...so if the website we saw this week is accepted by the comapny then it would go into programming phase. This phase probably takes two weeks.
quote:
Originally posted by stockguy04:
the beta website looked really nice... does any1 know if it was complete and just being tested or still being built (i noticed the links didnt work)... the current website is hideous.. but the new website is really nice... good news hopefully soon
[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited January 16, 2004).]
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Are you sure about that. It has been a while since I read the papers, but I thought it was the company that decided what a qualified investor is...and they can change it at any time. I will look at the paper work again!
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
"Reports that say something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know. "
We'll know when the company wants us to know!
[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited January 16, 2004).]
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Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Yes, John confirmed this to me over the phone last week. Only 35 investers who do not meet the requirements are allowed to purchase the PPM shares. And those are the actual requirements. The only thing he changed was the minimum investment of $2500.
I'm trying Bet!
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Try again cabbage, always love to see your charts with some good explanations. Great learning experience for us all
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I'm not sure what to expect- the float (179MM) has turned over at least 2 1/2 times in the past two days above 1 cent, which puts it in a new trading range. I think the MM's shorted today- and prob covered late in the day. The last hour was good- I think it will bounce around 1-1.5 for a while, but your guess is as good as mine, not much TA to work off of.
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
cabagge22, did you really talk to the CEO of FXGP or was it a joke? What do expect for that stock?I bought some on the dip at 0.013 today and I hope to make a good amount to put back into PGHI!
Tommy
IMO we go up today and get great news next week to send us up into .1 range
quote:
Originally posted by chrissy_a:IMO we go up today and get great news next week to send us up into .1 range
looking good
higher volume too compared to the last few days
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McD
quote:
Originally posted by McDermottSeattle:
I am trying to purchase the PPM. Anyone there who has already done this? I have the documents and have questions what to fill out and what not to. Or should I just call them. Any help would be great. Thanks.McD
quote:
Originally posted by McDermottSeattle:
I am trying to purchase the PPM. Anyone there who has already done this? I have the documents and have questions what to fill out and what not to. Or should I just call them. Any help would be great. Thanks.
McD
For the absolute 100% correct answer call them. -
888.542.6817
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
For the absolute 100% correct answer call them. -[b]888.542.6817[/B]
let's see if we can break .051
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Originally posted by machtabow:
So many dedicated PGHI holders!!!!! Soon to be gameznflix! Future's so bright! mach
Thanks, I read the other thread and that helped some. Did you guys ever find out if you should check the box about being a accredited investor? I am not. Also did you ever find out if these would be affected by a reverse split? Thanks guys and good luck. MCD
Yes, the PPM shares will be affected by any type of split along with all authorized shares.
quote:
Originally posted by McDermottSeattle:
Bet and Marty,Thanks, I read the other thread and that helped some. Did you guys ever find out if you should check the box about being a accredited investor? I am not. Also did you ever find out if these would be affected by a reverse split? Thanks guys and good luck. MCD
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quote:
Originally posted by McDermottSeattle:
So I sent John an email about 20 mins ago with the questions I had. I tried the help line first but busy. Believe me I didn't want to bother John. Anyways, he got back to me within 10 mins and answered all questions. This guy rocks. Customer service is the name of this game. McD
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quote:
Originally posted by McDermottSeattle:
So I sent John an email about 20 mins ago with the questions I had. I tried the help line first but busy. Believe me I didn't want to bother John. Anyways, he got back to me within 10 mins and answered all questions. This guy rocks. Customer service is the name of this game. McD
UNCLE MILTY
I will be heading back east over the weekend and then stopping in on John Flemming on Thursday. Will return Friday evening.
Hope to have good news for everyone.
By the way I did pick up some more shares today as my group of ten people now hold about ten million shares. It was nice to make the MM's pay more today for the shares they need.
Good luck all.
Magoo
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
Good day today everyoneI will be heading back east over the weekend and then stopping in on John Flemming on Thursday. Will return Friday evening.
Hope to have good news for everyone.
By the way I did pick up some more shares today as my group of ten people now hold about ten million shares. It was nice to make the MM's pay more today for the shares they need.
Good luck all.
Magoo
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GLTA!
have a good weekend amigos and a prosperous start to the week. don't try to chase those gusanos in the bottom of the mezcal bottles while you're having fun this weekend or you might feel like i did this morning.
uncle milty
j160e
I like them both, the "late fees suck" could be catering to the younger generation. They do suck, thats why I have VeeGeez and Netflix. -Marty
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j160e
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
Besides we don't even know if that is what the "real" deal is anyway. Right? -[This message has been edited by m_h13021 (edited January 16, 2004).]
Just my opinion....but like we said, we don't even know what the final product is yet. Thats slogan just happens to be the latest. Any way you look at it, a new website is a step up.
QUOTE]Originally posted by j160e:
Am I in the minority about not particularly liking the "Late Fees Suck! " slogan? As for the online video game rental competition, who charges late fees anyway? I prefer the new banner that was posted on the previous thread a few weeks ago which states "Never Any Late Fees". This says it all and in a more professional manner. Besides, with the "Late Fees Suck!" slogan the response could be "Yeah, they do but do you charge them or don't you?" Does this statment also imply to return games on time because late fees suck? I KNOW I'm going WAY overboard on this but does anybody else even mildly agree? Don't get me wrong but I've been accumulating shares (750K) for 2 months now and am holding them very long so I love this company as much as anyone else. With the new website just around the corner, I was wondering what anyone else thinks.
j160e[/QUOTE]
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Did you check all the boxes or not?
"Dude your getting a dell"
"Late Fees Suck"
Both very catchy!
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Originally posted by Brada777:
I just want to say I like the slogan "late fees suck" If you think about it you can really only rent games beside online at blockbuster ect. and it is like $5 if you are late that makes it another $5. I am a gamer think it is straight to the point. Think about the slogan Micheal Dell came out with "Dude you are getting a Dell" Very catchy and hip. I work for Hewlett Packard and man do I still hear that. Think about it!
j160e
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Brada, great point......"Dude your getting a dell"
"Late Fees Suck"
Both very catchy!
We won't seez and redistribute your shares this time
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Originally posted by j160e:
I guess I'm just out of touch with a few things today. No problem though as the one thing I'm not out of touch with is the fact that we are all going to make a lot of money with the success of this company no matter what slogan is used. Once again it's great how people on this board can discuss differences of opinion rationally and respectfully. Thanks for the input. GLTA!j160e
And it doesn't matter that all of the other online companies don't charge late fees, it's the fact that we got the slogan. What would you remember more, "Never any late fees" or "Late Fees Suck!"
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Brada, great point......"Dude your getting a dell"
"Late Fees Suck"
Both very catchy!
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quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Its OK ji60e...We won't seez and redistribute your shares this time
By the way thanks to Marty for posting the two banners.
j160e
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
You guys are right one. The slogan is catchy and it will stick in your head. College kids and younger will love it and that's who play video games.And it doesn't matter that all of the other online companies don't charge late fees, it's the fact that we got the slogan. What would you remember more, "Never any late fees" or "Late Fees Suck!"
In all fairness, I now only hold 1.8M shares, I sold 200K yesterday to play FXGP so you only need 1.2M more to catch up. If the PPS goes to .10, you'll have to start turning tricks on the weekend to come up with $120,000 for the 1.2M shares!
Later buddy!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
By the way, I bought more PPM shares today. Now I'm up to 375K PPM and 600K overall!Still trying to catch up with Tommy. I'm going to get you man!!
LAKELAND FLORIDA (RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE BETWEEN ORLANDO AND TAMPA) NETFLIX HAS SET UP A NEW DISTRUBUTION CENTER FOR CENTRAL FLORIDA CUSTOMERS. THE PHOTO ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE METRO&STATE SECTION HAS A WOMAN PUSHING A CART FULL OF DVD'S. THEY CLAIM THAT MOST CUSTOMERS GET THEIR MOVIES IN 1-DAY AND NO LATER THAN 2-DAYS.
"NETFLIX HAS SEEN ITS BUSINESS AND STOCK PRICE SOAR IN THE PAST YEAR, ALMOST DOUBLING ITS SUBSCRIBERS TO 1.5 MILLION AND TURNING ITS FIRST PROFIT. WALMART HAS THE SAME SERVICE AND BLOCKBUSTER IS EXPECTED TO JOIN SHORTLY. WALMART DOESN'T ENTER INTO ANY AREA WHICH THEY THINK WILL NOT PULL SEVERAL BILLION DOLLARS. NETFLIX IS TARGETING 5-MILLION SUBSCRIBERS BY 2007 AND THEY SEE THE DAY WHEN THEY WILL OFFER DISCS BY MAIL AND INTERNET DOWNLOADS. FOR A 5-YEAR OLD COMPANY, THE FORMULA HAS PAID OFF IN A STOCK PRICE THAT REACHED $65.10 ON WEDNESDAY DOWN .21 ON THE DAY BUT UP FROM A 52-WEEK LOW OF $11.05. YET THERE IS ONE POTENTIAL REVENUE GOLD MINE THAT NETFLIX WON'T TOUCH. IT DOESN'T RENT PORN."
NOW I HAVE EDITED THIS WITH MY OWN TYPING AND NOT INCLUDED EVERY PHASE OF THE ARTICLE BUT YOU SHOULD GET THE GENERAL IDEA. I AM UNAWARE IF THIS IS A PGHI AFFILATE OR NOT AND MOST OF YOU PROBABLY KNOW.
IF THIS IS, YOU SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING.
IF IT IS NOT, YOU SEE WHAT CAN HAPPEN.
Sorry this is late. In regards to your question about the PPM. John said only check what you know for sure. He said not to check part d the "accredited investor" Hope that helps. I got the impression that if you did check part d and you aren't accredited it is really not that big a deal. I sent my check today and am stoked about my position now. Good luck to Veegeez and all you pghi buddies. McD
As far as renting porn goes... well we still have to do decent with video games and then regular DVD's in the future. I know porn would sell/rent BIG! There are many corporations who are involved in the porn industry... such as AT&T. It's a billion plus dollar industry. And frankly I'm surprised that no one has started to rent these out via mailorder. I could make more $$$ with the porn addition... but my moral side pops up and then I'm stuck. So I have no firm opinion on this. Although a site renting out videogames to youngsters and also offering porn is kinda' weird. Perhaps a password for verified adult users to browse the porn section... while all other sections are open for browsing?
All I know is that we have a WINNER in our portfolio... porn or no porn. The videogames and regular DVD's will be like a rocketship for our wallets!
Maybe there is a reason why Netflix just rents videos......simplicity does have its advantages. -
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
How about getting VeeGeeZ to work the video game rental idea first, get this running smoothly and paying out financial gains.Maybe there is a reason why Netflix just rents videos......simplicity does have its advantages. -
Please be aware that all securities markets will be closed on Monday, January 19, 2004, in observance of Martin Luther King Jr. Day. The markets will reopen on Tuesday, January 20th
So will the OTCBB be open?
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Originally posted by nitroburn:
I just looked at my Ameritrade account and it says:Please be aware that all securities markets will be closed on Monday, January 19, 2004, in observance of Martin Luther King Jr. Day. The markets will reopen on Tuesday, January 20th
So will the OTCBB be open?
http://stockskill.net/PGHI/#14c
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Originally posted by stockguyDD:
anyone here know anything about peter leeds?? is he any good
All I can say is I paid the $99 bucks back in August and well it was worth it. Drop your email and I will go into detail. - Marty
There are several key factors you want to accomplish when you are creating an ad.
1-The ad must draw attention...be it negative or postive it must be talked about on a consisitant basis.
2-The ad must be quick and to the point..people have a fast tolerance level so you have to catch their attention within seconds or you lose them.
3-The slogan must be one that is easily remembered ...so it can be repeated.
4-You must reach your target audience..
I certainly understand your thinking because some people would find the T-Shirt offensive , but they will talk about it and in the long run that is what the intention is..Shock value causes attention..Just look at what is on the news everyday.
My personal opinion... they kept it simple and to the point nothing short of brilliant.
TRSTURGUT-18
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Originally posted by Brada777:
Just want to let everyone know I am in PPM and takled to John tonight. Boy he sounds so excited!! What a great guy!
[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited January 18, 2004).]
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Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
BET....There are several key factors you want to accomplish when you are creating an ad.
1-The ad must draw attention...be it negative or postive it must be talked about on a consisitant basis.
2-The ad must be quick and to the point..people have a fast tolerance level so you have to catch their attention within seconds or you lose them.
3-The slogan must be one that is easily remembered ...so it can be repeated.
4-You must reach your target audience..I certainly understand your thinking because some people would find the T-Shirt offensive , but they will talk about it and in the long run that is what the intention is..Shock value causes attention..Just look at what is on the news everyday.
My personal opinion... they kept it simple and to the point nothing short of brilliant.TRSTURGUT-18
Porn can also do a lot of damage to a companies image.
Lets not put any image out there of us and porn, especially whil we are a start up.
There is a lot of money in video games.....We don't have to be #1, just one of the numbers. The online video game rental buissness is wide open for any one to get in....We are well on are way to makeing money for all of us. This next two weeks should be huge
quote:
Originally posted by Pappy74:
How about a subsidiary or spin out company to do the porn. Won't hurt VeeGees image but will add to revenue and pps.
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Lets give up the porn idea.Porn can also do a lot of damage to a companies image.
Lets not put any image out there of us and porn, especially whil we are a start up.
There is a lot of money in video games.....We don't have to be #1, just one of the numbers. The online video game rental buissness is wide open for any one to get in....We are well on are way to makeing money for all of us. This next two weeks should be huge
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Lets give up the porn idea.Porn can also do a lot of damage to a companies image.
Lets not put any image out there of us and porn, especially whil we are a start up.
There is a lot of money in video games.....We don't have to be #1, just one of the numbers. The online video game rental buissness is wide open for any one to get in....We are well on are way to makeing money for all of us. This next two weeks should be huge
Good call here.
It is best not to start off on the wrong foot as far as offending any part of the possible market group.
It is true that there is money to be made in the porn industry. I for one would not involve myself with any company trying to market this industry.
Sorry but that is a moral issue to me.
Magoo
There are too many other ways to make money.
Thankfully our company hasn't even hinted at that idea.......
And don't forget to give us an update ASAP!
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quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Now Magoo, go give JF the rest of the money he needs for the PPM and make us all rich......And don't forget to give us an update ASAP!
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I will let you know what happens when I get back next weekend.
It is not all up to me as I have several partners in my group.
Also need to study what JF puts on the table in order to see how we could best participate to meet the needs. Then we will come back with a proposal for him.
Good things to come
Magoo
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Sounds great. Hope everything works out. Does he know your coming...is he putting together a proposal for you?
I have sent e-mails to him and let him know I am comming. I will be contacting him by phone tomorrow or at least by monday if I cannt get him this weekend.
I will be sure that he knows what is going on in time for him to get things together in time.
It sounds like he is actually doing OK with the PPM shares so far. I will be most interested in filling in the blanks and maybe giving him the fuel he needs to meet some future goals
Good Luck
Magoo
Magoo Magoo?
Wooter
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
I have sent e-mails to him and let him know I am comming. I will be contacting him by phone tomorrow or at least by monday if I cannt get him this weekend.I will be sure that he knows what is going on in time for him to get things together in time.
It sounds like he is actually doing OK with the PPM shares so far. I will be most interested in filling in the blanks and maybe giving him the fuel he needs to meet some future goals
Good Luck
Magoo
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j160e
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Lets give up the porn idea.Porn can also do a lot of damage to a companies image.
Lets not put any image out there of us and porn, especially whil we are a start up.
There is a lot of money in video games.....We don't have to be #1, just one of the numbers. The online video game rental buissness is wide open for any one to get in....We are well on are way to makeing money for all of us. This next two weeks should be huge
Best of luck to you on your meeting with JF! I hope all of you and your group's expectations are met.
j160e
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
Good call here.It is best not to start off on the wrong foot as far as offending any part of the possible market group.
It is true that there is money to be made in the porn industry. I for one would not involve myself with any company trying to market this industry.
Sorry but that is a moral issue to me.
Magoo
j160e
quote:
Originally posted by nicks0r:
I have been pondering getting into the popular PGHI for awhile now. Unfortunatley all my money is tied up (CESY/ADVC/IBZT/BLYC). Once I take some profit in any of those I was hoping to get into PGHI at around the .045 level. Now that we have broke the .05 level substantly and nearing the 52 week high do you think it's only going up from here? I would surely like to get in before they launch the new website but I am trying to determine a good entry point. Any suggestions would be apreciated.
quote:
Originally posted by j160e:
I only have a fraction of the TA skills as some here but when I look at the current chart I know one thing for sure, the MACD says be ready! The last we saw of the .045 level was Thusday morning. With big news anxiously awaited, this will probably keep inching upwards IMHO.j160e
Walt
quote:
Originally posted by nicks0r:
I have been pondering getting into the popular PGHI for awhile now. Unfortunatley all my money is tied up (CESY/ADVC/IBZT/BLYC). Once I take some profit in any of those I was hoping to get into PGHI at around the .045 level. Now that we have broke the .05 level substantly and nearing the 52 week high do you think it's only going up from here? I would surely like to get in before they launch the new website but I am trying to determine a good entry point. Any suggestions would be apreciated.
quote:
Originally posted by newstockpicker:
ANY entry point below .10 is good. IF you are thinking long term. A year from now, IMO, any entry point below 1.00 will be good, IF you are thinking long term. This stock is like Intel, or Microsoft, or IBM when they first got started. Get the picture?Walt
WOW, that is some bold predictions you have made. I would be ecstatic if you were even half correct. Thanks for the great input. Any particular reason for such high predictions? - Marty
quote:
Originally posted by Pappy74:
How about a subsidiary or spin out company to do the porn. Won't hurt VeeGees image but will add to revenue and pps.
ya mean something like VEESLEEZE?
THERE ARE LOTS OF POSSIBILITIES WITH THE "LATE FEES SUCK" SLOGAN TOO. LOL
i'm more in favor of staying hip and clean. there are plenty of porn dealers on the internet as it is. there is too much available to minors without mom finding a porn dvd under the mattress in billy's room. i see a legitimate company opening themselves up to lots of legal and moral issues getting into the xxx area of internet commerce imho.
uncle milty
Walt
[QUOTE]Originally posted by m_h13021:
[B] WOW, that is some bold predictions you have made. I would be ecstatic if you were even half correct. Thanks for the great input. Any particular reason for such high predictions? - Marty
Netflix o/s = ~24,300,000
Netflix pps = $65.00
Netflix Market Cap = 1,580,000,000
PGHI o/s = 469,000,000
PGHI pps = $0.05
PGHI Market Cap = 23,450,000
Netflix has 23 distribution centers and approximately 1.3 million subscriptions.
Now if we are or soon will be 1/20th of the company Netflix is that would be:
Netflix 1/20 Market Cap = 79,000,000
PGHI o/s = 469,000,000
PGHI pps = $0.17
PGHI Market Cap = 79,730,000
I'm not sure how many subscriptions we have presently but the key is the new website and the marketing campaign to increase subscriptions and I see us being 1/20th the company Netflix is without much trouble. This would at least be a reasonable and not an unreal or inflated pps to assume based on the overall size and solidity of the company. Any thoughts to the accuracy of this? I hope I'm not way off base. The upside potential is so great that I'm trying to control my excitement with a little bit of reason.
j160e
quote:
Originally posted by newstockpicker:
ANY entry point below .10 is good. IF you are thinking long term. A year from now, IMO, any entry point below 1.00 will be good, IF you are thinking long term. This stock is like Intel, or Microsoft, or IBM when they first got started. Get the picture?Walt
j160e
quote:
Originally posted by phantom1107:
I would think VeeGeez will attract subscribers from all other game rental srvs,
more than they would NetFlix. Cheers all!
quote:
Originally posted by old mullet:ya mean something like VEESLEEZE?
THERE ARE LOTS OF POSSIBILITIES WITH THE "LATE FEES SUCK" SLOGAN TOO. LOL
i'm more in favor of staying hip and clean. there are plenty of porn dealers on the internet as it is. there is too much available to minors without mom finding a porn dvd under the mattress in billy's room. i see a legitimate company opening themselves up to lots of legal and moral issues getting into the xxx area of internet commerce imho.
uncle milty
Also a higher PPS than .10 in a year is extremely possible IMO. Just read all of the threads on PGHI, do the DD on charts, compare it to NetFlix, look at the BILLION dollar videogame industry... it could be a real barn burner. So stay tuned
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Late Fees Suck!
Yeah!
j160e
//////I think the best thing we can do as investors is spread the word. I’m going to buy my brother in law a membership when the new website comes out, and he is already excited about it, and he has a ton of friends that are all into video games as well. So I’m pretty sure he will get several of his friends to sign up as well. And it just goes on and on.////////
Giving this subscription as a gift to a younger relative (or actually anyone) is a top notch idea. Word of mouth advertising will be exponentially huge when this thing gets rolling.
Wooter
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"Late fees suck... so does Debbie!" :P
Have a great Saturday guys, this week will make the longs cry of joy and those who sold too early kick themselves in the butt!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
If they wanna rent porn then they can say:"Late fees suck... so does Debbie!" :P
Have a great Saturday guys, this week will make the longs cry of joy and those who sold too early kick themselves in the butt!
GLTA!
And those of us who wished we bought more but don't have more funds to, CRY!!
LATE FEES SUCKS!!
haha good luck to us all guys, been lurking more lately on this thread than posting, amazing predictions and even better DD and research. TO THE FRICKIN MOON SAYS MACH!!
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that could be worth over 1000$ in a couple of weeks... not bad imo
pres
Thanks,
tommy_la@hotmail.com
Of course anyone can email me too to talk about anything.
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
m_h13021, can you please email me your experience and thoughts on PeterLeeds.com?Thanks,
tommy_la@hotmail.com
Of course anyone can email me too to talk about anything.
IF PORN MAKES MONEY AND LOTS OF IT, HENCE A GREAT RISE IN STOCK PRICE, THEN YOU SELL/RENT IT.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, THEN TAKE YOUR EXTRA % OF PROFITS FROM PORN RENTALS AND GIVE IT TO CHURCH.
A 30% SHARE HOLDER COULD FORCE PORN SALES AND FOR DAMN GOOD REASON.
quote:
Originally posted by stockguyDD:
can you plz email me 2 about ur experience wiht peter leeds... ?
I have a feeling it will make a run between now and then though. Just a hunch. I will still triple my position on a dip then
Got to go get ready for BBQ salmon today
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
Just got a notice that my extra funding should be available by the 24th. I hope PGHI doesn't take off by then. If not I will be able to triple my position.I have a feeling it will make a run between now and then though. Just a hunch. I will still triple my position on a dip then
Got to go get ready for BBQ salmon today
quote:
Originally posted by clay1999:
OK.... This porn stuff jast MAY be a MM's move to get some of you to SELL your stock!!!! they will do anything to shake your stocks from you!!! don't sell on this bad rumor... hold strong and hold long....
this is just one person's thought's
Clay
Here's to the success of our company.
Cheers to all!
quote:
Originally posted by delt16:
so what you're saying is that i wont be able to buy any sex toys on veegeez.com?
quote:
Originally posted by delt16:
so what you're saying is that i wont be able to buy any sex toys on veegeez.com?
I'm afraid you'll most likely have to visit Sex Toys 'R' Us, another successful subsidiary of PGHI, for that, delt16.
quote:
Originally posted by Drake:
I'm afraid you'll most likely have to visit Sex Toys 'R' Us, another successful subsidiary of PGHI, for that, delt16.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach was here!!!!!!!!!!!!
quote:
Originally posted by zo:
I hate to say it...But this is what happens when you think of $$$ for too long...I mean we went from a nice chat room of renting games and having clever ideas to advertise...To porn and how to make money off of it...Come on...We can't lose our morals and hoping for this company to sell porn is as bad as it gets...That's when you know that you need to stop thinking about $$$ and take a couple of days off...Maybe visit a third world country and see how bad it is over there just so we can can grasp of what a small amount of $$$ means...And trust me guys...After we're done with this company we will be very wealthy...So lets keep our minds cleans...zo...
I see the porn thing is still being talked about. That is always going to be a debated issue much like several other subjects like it.
Renting game viedos to kids and porn viedos will not mix as most of the customers will be getting their games by way of the membership being paid by the parents. No parent in their right mind would sign up for membership for their sons and daughters when the company is linked to the porn industry.
I believe that this is not even worth talking about as John Flemming has not even given the slightest indication of this.
I will get off my soap box and this will go away on it's own.
Good luck to all this week and I will check in from time to time when I can plug in my laptop on my trip.
Magoo
Magoo....have a safe trip east! Wave if you pass over PA! LOL!
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow:
Well said. Take care. Stay focused, and positve. Continue DD and Teamwork. Take care all!*** Future's so Bright ***
mach was here!!!!!!!!!!!!
Because, as most of you know, he can only accept 35 non-qualified investors in the PPM.
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They have atleast $60,000 dollars (24 investors @ minimum $2,500). They most likely have more then that. I am sure some invested more then $2,500.
Magoo is on his way to talk to JF about investing a large amount in the PPM.
MM's most likely were raising price of PPS to aquire shares the last two trading days.
Looks like we have a new slogan.
I cannot wait till they start releasing PR's about all the great news
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Speaking of PPM...just thought I would let you all know that I talked to John yesterday and he informed me that he already has about 24 non-qualified investors in the PPM. So if any of you guys that don't have $1M in equity want to get in you better do so ASAP.
Because, as most of you know, he can only accept 35 non-qualified investors in the PPM.
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Hello fellow PGHI addicts! My vacation is over, and I'm back at school for my last semester before I enter the securities industry. I will try and provide my technicals as much as I can, but would like to see others that are capable discuss them. I'll probably post something before the weekend is up.
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Speaking of PPM...just thought I would let you all know that I talked to John yesterday and he informed me that he already has about 24 non-qualified investors in the PPM. So if any of you guys that don't have $1M in equity want to get in you better do so ASAP.
Because, as most of you know, he can only accept 35 non-qualified investors in the PPM.
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by Degs:
Is it really true that they can only have 35 non-qualified investers in the PPM, and can you tell me why? I was going to buy into it in April when my funds come in , but I guess I won't be able to.
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by Degs:
Well I guess I will have to settle with my measly little 68,000 shares, but its better than none.
Personally I don't recommend selling the common shares to buy the PPM. Add some PPM to your position but don't sell one to buy the other! JMO
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by ranger6922:
another question about the ppm. i currently own pghi and want to go into the ppm. how long will it take after i sell my shares and wire the funds to pghi for me to be in. am i looking at hours, or a days. also consider that all the paperwork has been done.
I'll be in school full-time as well! Investing is a great way to fund not only an education, but life too
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Hello fellow PGHI addicts! My vacation is over, and I'm back at school for my last semester before I enter the securities industry. I will try and provide my technicals as much as I can, but would like to see others that are capable discuss them. I'll probably post something before the weekend is up.
By the way, the reason he cannot except more than 35 non-qualified investors is because it's a huge risk to investors because your money is tied up in a penny stock for at least one year. However, in reality we all know that this stock is performing like a listed stock (actually more like a blue chip). As Tommy pointed out to me earlier, the charts for PGHI look like the major indices. Check it out for yourself.
Also Bet, your estimate is in fact the minimum. I have personnaly invested $7500 in the PPM and I know several other folks invested when the minimum was $5000.
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
ranger6922, as soon as they receive your wire and your fax with the signed documents, it's a done deal. Now it only depends on how long it take for your money to clear your trading account.Personally I don't recommend selling the common shares to buy the PPM. Add some PPM to your position but don't sell one to buy the other! JMO
GLTA!
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quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Tommy's right ranger. IMO this stock will double within the next week or two so you'll be losing out if you sell now to buy PPM.By the way, the reason he cannot except more than 35 non-qualified investors is because it's a huge risk to investors because your money is tied up in a penny stock for at least one year. However, in reality we all know that this stock is performing like a listed stock (actually more like a blue chip). As Tommy pointed out to me earlier, the charts for PGHI look like the major indices. Check it out for yourself.
Also Bet, your estimate is in fact the minimum. I have personnaly invested $7500 in the PPM and I know several other folks invested when the minimum was $5000.
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You are also correct about the paperwork. There is a Term Sheet and a Subscription Agreement that you will need to complete and either fax or mail it in.
As far as you money goes, you can either mail a check or wire the money to the PGHI account. You shares will be issued as soon as John recieves the paperwork and the money.
If you want the lowest possible price I recommend faxing the paperwork and wiring the money. Email John Fleming at ceo@pghi.biz to get all the information.
quote:
Originally posted by McDermottSeattle:
Member posted January 17, 2004 21:00
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I would trade stocks and.....well, and whatever the heck else I wanted to do.
Now I know why some of the longs have stepped away for a while. After this week I too will be stepping away from the "GamezNFlix" chat board to concentrate on other investments.
I think this week will be huge just on the anticipation factor alone...not to mention if we get a great PR....
I hope you all are right, video games are definitally a booming industry and they seem to be the first one's doing this (for videogames). Dipping into the savings for this one, good luck all!
Go here to see netflix ad on aol welcome screen Says NO LATE FEES
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Cusshings
AMEX Eligibility Requirements
Regular Financial Requirements
§ pre-tax income of at least $750,000 in the last fiscal year
or in at least two of the last three years
§ Market value of public float of at least $3,000,000
§ Price pe share at least $3
§ No operating history requirement
§ Stockholders equity of at least $4 million
Alternative Financial Requirements
§ No pre-tax income requirement
§ Market value of public float of at least $15,000,000
§ Price pe share at least $3
§ Operating history of at least 3 years
§ Stockholders equity of at least $4 million
NASDAQ Smallcap
Eligibility Requirements
§ at least $5 million of stockholders’ equity, or market
capitalization of $50 million or net income of $750,000
for the last fiscal year or in 2 of the last 3 fiscal years
§ either an operating history of at least one year or market
capitalization of at least $50 million
§ at least 300 shareholders
§ at least 1 million publicly held shares
§ at least $5 million value of publicly held shares
§ at least three market makers
§ minimum bid price of $4.00
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After the opening of the website and all the frenzy slows down will we continue to see this type of pattern? I am new to trading and have studied a good bit over the last few months since I got in PGHI and its been a no brainer.
In for the long haul!
There is a lot of good news lined up for early 2004. Mid to late 2004 will depend on how the company grows from the seeds being planted now. If the news is good, we should see the up pattern continue. If growth is slow, I can see it flattening out. I honestly cannot see the chart turning south as that would indicate poor growth/performance....but we are in penny land, so nothing is a sure bet.
IMO......using Mach's words.....the future is very bright!
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by tigerontop:
Honest question.....
Can anyone find a better looking chart than PGHI right now if you look back over the last three months?
http://www.stockta.com/cgi-bin/analysis.pl?symb=PGHI&num1=1&cobrand=&mode=stockAfter the opening of the website and all the frenzy slows down will we continue to see this type of pattern? I am new to trading and have studied a good bit over the last few months since I got in PGHI and its been a no brainer.
In for the long haul!
Thanks for posting all the helpful links on charting, technical analysis, and opening pps..very interesting reading.
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by Gonnaplode:
PSU90,Thanks for posting all the helpful links on charting, technical analysis, and opening pps..very interesting reading.
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
Thanks...I've learned a lot from these. If you study those charts and signals it is amazing how quickly you can look at any chart and say....hey, this has potential....or, I don't think so (from a T/A standpoint)!PSU
let it come please...
pres
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thanks
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quote:
Originally posted by phantom1107:
Hey Gang! If anyone wants the file I have on the game/dvd rental market, just give your email address and I'll get it to you asap.
CHEERS TO ALL!
I'll take some mail ****GOT IT******
THANK YOU >>>> I removed my addy to keep spammers away
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TIA
a u s t i n n p @ y a h o o . c o m
thanks
Well folks, I don't know where everybody is from but my New England Patriots are going back to the Super Bowl for the second time in 3 years!!! The Patriots and PGHI....life is grand!
j160e
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quote:
Originally posted by nitroburn:
I'm from Alaska, and I'm almost as happy as you are that the Patriots are going to the SuperBowl!
GLTY with PGHI!
j160e
quote:
Originally posted by Drethar2:
dude....I hate the Patriots with a passion, lol...Ive always been a diehard Bills fan...but at least we can agree on cheering for PGHI!
[This message has been edited by j160e (edited January 18, 2004).]
and I will take a copy of that e-mail also phantom
raymond_boynton@yahoo.com
j160e
quote:
Originally posted by phantom1107:
Hey Gang! If anyone wants the file I have on the game/dvd rental market, just give your email address and I'll get it to you asap.
CHEERS TO ALL!
Phantom...
Pls kindly send it to me too
alejdis@aol.com
TIA
fozzy
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Site ranking up to 142,664!
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quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Cabby, what did you say the name of that free tool is that I can use to see the ranks?
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Could I also please have a copy of the email. richardthan@msn.com. Thanks.
pres
I recently requested the info on the PPM form JF which I recieved. On the offering.DOC it said if more info required the business plan would be sent to you on request.Just wondering if anyone requested this ?
chris
I thought it was odd that they woould make this information available to just anyone and wasn't expecting them to send it.
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fozzy
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quote:
Originally posted by presumptuous:
Ignorant,
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=veegeez.compres
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(with no spaces)
quote:
Originally posted by ranger6922:
can anyone that still has any of the old forms for the ppm e-mail them to me. i cant seem to get ahold of anyone today, i guess every one is off for mlk day.
r a n g e r 6 9 2 2 @ b e l l s o u t h . n e t(with no spaces)
wjrhw@rcn.com
thanks
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Nice close today for PGHI! Sorry if I haven't been around much but PGHI is in auto-pilot mode and doing very well. I've been concentrating on FXGP, good play too check it out!GLTA!
TIA...
Thanx!
You have a spare one for me too? Thanks.Thanks
Coumars
quote:
Originally posted by Drethar2:
Hi guys can I have a copy of those PPM forms too by any chance? My emails Drethar2@yahoo.comThanx!
quote:
Originally posted by phantom1107:
WS_BBL, You have mail. Cheers!
Thanks
coumars
quote:
Originally posted by phantom1107:
Coumars, You have mail. Cheers!
quote:
Originally posted by Gonnaplode:
Can anyone tell me how to report abuse on the allstocks board? Unrelated to PGHI!TIA...
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quote:
Originally posted by Drethar2:
Hi guys can I have a copy of those PPM forms too by any chance? My emails Drethar2@yahoo.comThanx!
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I am in New york and man is it cold. Will be going on to Chicago then in Kentucky on Thursday.
Good Luck to all this week. Should be a good one
Magoo
j160e
quote:
Originally posted by zo:
Hey guys...I live near the distribution center for GAMEFLY...I will try to drive by Tuesday or Wednesday and check it out...If i can i will get some pictures and post them online...zo...
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quote:
Originally posted by zo:
Hey guys...I live near the distribution center for GAMEFLY...I will try to drive by Tuesday or Wednesday and check it out...If i can i will get some pictures and post them online...zo...
Thanx
coumars
quote:
Originally posted by zo:
Hey Guys...I'll try to be as informative as i can be...But i don't think i can et enough ammo to take care of our competition...But i will get my camera and i will shoot as many as i can...I'm just hoping it be there...I wouldn't want to drive there for nothing...Ok have to go out to take care o some other business...Untill later tonight...zo...
quote:
Originally posted by Brada777:
I am just curious anyone a member of Veegeez.com? I am in the PPM and thought that it would be great to do my part. Let me know.
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am i correct in assuming that you are from Boston?
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quote:
Originally posted by Brada777:
I signed up today. I am getting my brother to also sign up. They changed the site a little today. Looks good but, I cant wait till the new sites is ready! WE need to get everyone we know to get on this baby! I want to see VeeGeez the #1 rental of Video games and soon to be movies.[This message has been edited by Brada777 (edited January 19, 2004).]
what has changed on the site? it looks the same to me.
Game rentals add to the industry's overall bottom line. The study reports that about one third of respondents indicate that they rent games and these users have a high propensity to use rentals as a means to inform purchase decisions. Hardcore gamers are more likely to rent games than their avid and casual gamer counterparts. Almost half of hardcore gamers indicate they rent at least one game a month, and almost 20 percent say they rent five or more.
Cheers and GLTA!
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quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
You guys ready for a wild ride tomorrow? If news is released this will be the last time we see .05 IMO
YeeeeeaaaHaaaaaa!R U a Kentucky CowBoy?
CheerZ
VeeHappy
quote:
Originally posted by nitroburn:
I am waiting for the new site to come out then I will subscribe.
Also if we get a big run up do you think that it will retrace quite a bit? I am still holding long, but I am wondering if it would be smart to sell some on the run and then buy back when it re traces.
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Some advise that has been presented here:
1) Keep a percetange (60%)of your total investment as a long term hold. Don't sell that percentage until you are ready to leave the stock all together. The other 40% use to day trade, that is, play the dips.
2) Sell half of the stock once your investment is doubled. If you bought 200,000 shares at about .05, then sell 100,000 of those shares at .10. Thus, you have removed your principle from the stock and you can ride the free shares all the way to the top.
Either of the above is a good thing to do.
Trying to sell and buy in the dips can make you a lot of money on PGHI if your lucky. If your not lucky, then you can miss the ride all together. Remember, the MM's have been keeping a big spread a good amount of the time........
IMO, we should see .10 with in two weeks.....and thats a conservative estimate. Patience will bring you good fortune with this stock.
My advice, hold all your shares until atleast .10, then decide what you want to do.
Also, don't get too gready......protecting your principal is not only great, but essential. Whenever you can recover your initial investment and ride free shares is something that should be sought (sp?) after.
quote:
Originally posted by nitroburn:
I am waiting for the new site to come out then I will subscribe.
Also if we get a big run up do you think that it will retrace quite a bit? I am still holding long, but I am wondering if it would be smart to sell some on the run and then buy back when it re traces.
I love their service, takes only 2 days to get to WA from CA and I've had The Matrix for 3 months now! Ok ok I'll send it back for you guys to rent it too!
Tomorrow we rock!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by delt16:
Veegeez.com just got a new member! I will be waiting for Top Spin Tennis and Counter-strike to arrive in the mail. I haven't heard anyone else talk about having a membership so I guesse I am the first Allstocker to join. (correct me if i'm wrong)
Lets see some more PGHI investors joinig Veegeez.
Point Group Holdings and Legend Mobile Establish Joint Venture
FRANKLIN, KY and ANN ARBOR, MI -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 01/20/2004 -- Point Group Holdings, Incorporated (OTC BB: PGHI) and Legend Mobile (OTC BB: LGMB) today announced that they have reached a basic agreement that will create a joint venture between the two companies. The companies intend to collaborate on leveraging Legend Mobile's portfolio of entertainment relationships to develop and market Point Group's upcoming GameZnFlix.com online DVD and Game rental service.
The aim of the joint venture is to contribute Legend's expertise in the areas of entertainment marketing, licensing and branding, mobile advertising and stored value programs to the launch of Point Group Holdings' new online movie and game rental service to be known as GameZnFlix.com.
"I am excited to work with PGHI on this project. We look forward to contributing to the launch and success of this very competitive online rental service -- GameZnFlix.com," stated Peter Klamka, President of Legend Mobile.
In addition to the marketing efforts and strategy by Legend Mobile, Point Group Holdings will extend a credit facility to Legend Mobile of Five Hundred Thousand Dollars and Mr. Klamka will also be joining Point Group Holdings' Advisory Board which will be established in February 2004.
PGHI's CEO/President, John Fleming, stated, "We are fortunate to have the opportunity to work with Legend Mobile to bring GameZnFlix.com to the public, along with increasing our exposure of our online game rental company VeeGeeZ.com. The joint ventures we have planned will greatly assist our launch in February of GameZnFlix, as well as the future of both of the companies."
Highlighted Links
PGHI
VeeGeeZ
Since its inception in 1998, Legend Mobile has developed a number of commercial opportunities for celebrity brands in various new and traditional media. Mobile has been a pioneer in creating branded mobile products such as PDAs and mobile applications and accessories. Legend's work was highlighted in the industry study: "DoCoMo -- The Wireless Tsunami." Through its subsidiary, Legend Credit, the company creates stored value products such as gift cards and reloadable debit cards. Legend has worked with a range of world recognized brands and personalities. In the past five years, Legend's work has included Claudia Schiffer, Christina Aguilera, Hilary Duff, NASCAR personalities, Disney Records, Nelly, and Mandy Moore. Additionally, Mr. Klamka has worked with Paramount Pictures, the rock group KISS, and major distributors in the pay-per-view television industry.
Point Group Holdings, Incorporated is a holding company which, through its subsidiaries, provides management services to businesses that have an operating history or can substantiate future performance in their respective industries. The Company participates in companies in various fields of business by providing executive-level managerial assistance as well as arranging for and contributing capital investment.
For more information, contact John Fleming, CEO, PGHI, at 001.270.598.0385 or e-mail ceo@pghi.biz or examine the following websites:
Point Group Holdings, Incorporated: http://www.pghi.biz
VeeGeeZ.com, LLC: http://www.veegeez.com
Certain statements in this news release may contain forward-looking information within the meaning of Rule 175 under the Securities Act of 1933 and Rule 3b-6 under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, and are subject to the safe harbor created by those rules. All statements, other than statements of fact, included in this release, including, without limitation, statements regarding potential future plans and objectives of the company, are forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. There can be no assurance that such statements will prove to be accurate and actual results and future events could differ materially from those anticipated in such statements. Technical complications that may arise could prevent the prompt implementation of any strategically significant plan(s) outlined above. The company cautions that these forward-looking statements are further qualified by other factors including, but not limited to those, set forth in the company's Form 10-KSB filing and other filings with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission (available at www.sec.gov). The company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any statements in this release, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.
Time for lots more DD I think.
The companies intend to collaborate on leveraging Legend Mobile's portfolio of entertainment relationships to develop and market Point Group's upcoming GameZnFlix.com online DVD and Game rental service.
In other words celebrity endorsement for GameZnFlix.....YEAH!
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Originally posted by Gonnaplode:
Never mind I think I got it....The companies intend to collaborate on leveraging Legend Mobile's portfolio of entertainment relationships to develop and market Point Group's upcoming GameZnFlix.com online DVD and Game rental service.
In other words celebrity endorsement for GameZnFlix.....YEAH!
Point Group's upcoming GameZnFlix.com online DVD and Game rental service......
We Rock....WaaaaaHooooooooo
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Originally posted by delt16:
j160e-am i correct in assuming that you are from Boston?
Company Description for LGMB:
450 S. Wagner Rd.
Ann Arbor, MI 48105 http://www.legendm.com Phone: 734-389-0270
Fax: 734-389-0271
Sector: CONSUMER, NON-CYCLICAL
Industry: Computer Products Distribution & Support
It's getting "Hot In Herre" for Legend Mobile, which sells games for mobile phones featuring pop stars Nelly and Christina Aguilera. Its auditor says the company is doubtful to continue as a going concern, due to shrinking revenues and an accumulated deficit of about $15 million. Its licensing agreement with Michael Jordan to sell branded handheld computing devices based on the Palm model was ended in 2002, and Legend Mobile owes nearly $500,000 to the retired-once-more NBA star. The company is also in hock to Playboy Enterprises and several NASCAR drivers for overdue licensing royalties. Legend markets a Visa gift card featuring popster Hilary Duff. Chairman and CEO Peter Klamka owns about 30% of the company.
Regards
We rock hard today, no doubt!
GLTA!
but it hasn't shown up on the big wires yet... hope it does soon.
pres
Regads Ed
quote:
Originally posted by whymejc:
I just found this don't know how old it is.Company Description for LGMB:
450 S. Wagner Rd.
Ann Arbor, MI 48105 http://www.legendm.com Phone: 734-389-0270
Fax: 734-389-0271Sector: CONSUMER, NON-CYCLICAL
Industry: Computer Products Distribution & Support
It's getting "Hot In Herre" for Legend Mobile, which sells games for mobile phones featuring pop stars Nelly and Christina Aguilera. Its auditor says the company is doubtful to continue as a going concern, due to shrinking revenues and an accumulated deficit of about $15 million. Its licensing agreement with Michael Jordan to sell branded handheld computing devices based on the Palm model was ended in 2002, and Legend Mobile owes nearly $500,000 to the retired-once-more NBA star. The company is also in hock to Playboy Enterprises and several NASCAR drivers for overdue licensing royalties. Legend markets a Visa gift card featuring popster Hilary Duff. Chairman and CEO Peter Klamka owns about 30% of the company.Regards
Legend Mobile Inc. is a developer and marketer of wireless applications, games and accessories. The Company markets products under licenses from a number of personalities, including Nelly and Christina Aguilera, as well as a number of NASCAR drivers, including Mark Martin, Rusty Wallace, Kurt Bush and Matt Kenseth. Legend's racing activities can be found at www.racemobile.com. The Company also has mobile content licensing relationships with Street and Smith and Playboy Enterprises. Legend seeks to sell its products through traditional retailers, online retailers and through direct response channels. The Company's products are manufactured by third parties utilizing Legend's designs and licensed trademarks.
Regards
quote:
Originally posted by whymejc:
I simply went to AOL finance and got the company profile for legend mobil.Regards
Company Overview:
Legend Mobile is a leader in branded consumer applications for mobile phones including SMS (Short-Message-Service), java, and mobile games.
One Company (Legend Mobile Incorporated: LGMB.OB) stands alone, as the only pure-play in consumer mobile data and games. SMS is a global phenomenon with mobile phone customers around the world sending and receiving billions of messages each year. SMS has become the fastest growing data service in the wireless industry generating billions of dollars for carriers in Europe and Asia. SMS usage is expected to grow significantly in the United States in the next twelve to twenty four months as the majority of phones in the United States are now able to receive SMS services. Legend charges a subscription fee on a monthly basis for its SMS services.
Legend Mobile is positioned to be the leading publisher of branded SMS data and games for the growing mobile gaming market. Legend currently has under license such popular names as Christina Aguilera, Playboy, Nelly, TeenHollywood and several NASCAR drivers to include Rusty Wallace, Bill Elliott, Terry Labonte, Mark Martin, Jeff Burton, Matt Kenseth, Kurt Busch and Jeremy Mayfield.
The company can also be a leader in NASCAR branded mobile phone data, games and accessories with its portfolio of licenses. NASCAR is the fastest growing spectator sport in America with an estimate 75 million fans. Races are held from coast-to-coast each season with an average of 190,000 fans in attendance per race and an average of 10 million television viewers per race.
The company also has a license agreement with Playboy Enterprises for the use of Playboy content on mobile devices. The Playboy license grants to Legend includes color mobile phones and handheld computers manufactured by Motorola, Nokia, Palm, Handspring, Sony, and Research in Motion's Blackberry. The first of the Playboy titles, which will contain a series of images, games and editorial material from Playboy magazine and Playboy.com is expected to hit retailers at a suggested retail price of $19.95.. The content would be sold via Legend expansion cards, which plug into compatible handheld devices.
"The highly anticipated release of this latest Playboy software is an indication of the popularity of the brand within the interactive arena," said Sarah Haney, Entertainment Licensing Manager, Playboy Product Licensing. "As a leader in the multi-media entertainment space, Playboy is committed to pursuing every segment of the market and providing its consumers with compelling entertainment. We are pursuing a wide array of opportunities and technologies to reach our customers on the go, including both storage media cards and wireless transmission."
Legend has plans for many more celebrity and sports branded products to enable fans to stay connected and interface with their favorite stars. The Company is also looking to enter lucrative niche markets such as weather conditions, ticket availability, and instant fantasy sports applications.
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Formerly PTN Media, Legend Mobile Inc. (OTCBB:LGMB) is a leader in the design, marketing, promotion, and distribution of licensed products for wireless devices. Our products include a broad range of faceplates, data services, mobile games, and accessories. The company is focused in the areas of entertainment, motorsports, youth, and other specific vertical markets.
Legend's products have been featured on numerous national magazine covers, television news, radio and even books. One of Legend Mobile's products is highlighted in the book published in 2003 titled "DoCoMo: Japan's Wireless Tsunami". Since inception the company has had business relationships with some of the best known brands and personalities in the world.
The company's focus is developing and marketing services and accessories for the hundreds of millions of mobile phone users around the world. There are currently one billion mobile phones in operation around the world. Legend Mobile currently has licensing arrangements with Playboy Enterprises, top NASCAR drivers such as Rusty Wallace, Mark Martin, Jeff Burton, Terry Labonte, Matt Kenseth, Kurt Busch, Bill Elliot, Jeremy Mayfield, the Arena Football League, Street and Smith, and multiplatinium selling recording artists including Nelly and Christina Aguilera.
Legend's industry relationships include Motorola,Nextel, Cingular, Handango, Kiloo, Crisp Wireless, India Games, and Zim Technologies, The company also sources materials from a range of suppliers in Asia
Legend Mobile has been headed since 1997 by Peter Klamka. Mr. Klamka has a diverse background including time in investment banking and private equity. He has also served as a principal of a sports related manufacturing company and an award winning fragrance company. Mr. Klamka created the popular KISS Visa card demonstrating the entertainment licenses can influence consumer products. The KISS Visa project illustrated Mr. Klamka's ability to take a brand with a specific appeal and create segmented distribution channels and other affinities to the resell consumer financial services. Mr. Klamka also created a line of gourmet foods with Viacom/Paramount Pictures was that acquired by a publicly traded company as well as a series of celebrity websites that were also acquired by another public company.
The company maintains it corporate offices in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
quote:
Originally posted by Gonnaplode:
And look it states clearly....Point Group's upcoming GameZnFlix.com online DVD and Game rental service......
We Rock....WaaaaaHooooooooo
Regards
And we know more is coming so so soon...
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Originally posted by machtabow:
Great PR people. Techs are hot to contribute. Just a 2nd subtle point... expect news forthcoming regarding DVD rental's. I would expect much more in gains from current levels soon. Lets make a move beyond .06 today! Take care! mach
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The current US population include almost 32 million teens aged 12 to 19. This group spends over $170 billion per year according to Teenage Research Unlimited. The currenty population has increased steadily since 1992 as children of Baby Boom have entered their teen years. Census estimates this group will grow to 35 million by 2010. It is estimated that only 38% of American teens currently have their own cellphone. Legend Mobile's prepaid activities are an attempt to address the youth market in a manner consistent with acceptance by this group.
Legend Mobile is targeting this group through its association with Nelly and Christina Aguilera -two icons to teens in America and around the world. These two recording artists have sold in excess of 30 million albums in the past three years. Nelly and Christina also have proven abilities to drive sales of other products such as clothing, soda, licensed merchandise and fashion accessories.
Legend is developing a fully integrated mobile experience for these two fan bases. Custom covers, subscription data services, Java services, games, prepaid "phone in a box" products, ringtones, and mobile games are all part of the existing or planned product offerings for these two Legend licenses. These features and associations evolve the phone into an accessory, a fashion statement, a messaging service, a toy, and a status symbol. Legend is positioning the phone as a symbol of independence second only to the car.
http://www.legendm.com/market.htm
*** Future's so Bright ***
Mach
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Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Absolutely!! The Techs are red hot, we got momemtum, and the PRs are starting. This PR is huge solidifying the upcoming DVD release and boosting our marketing.And we know more is coming so so soon...
Regards
Did not receive it as of yet on Knobia's real-time streamer. Also someone made a comment that it was not on their Ameritrade streamer either. -
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
"...JF obviously corrected the PR distribution. It's on all major streamers..."Did not receive it as of yet on Knobia's real-time streamer. Also someone made a comment that it was not on their Ameritrade streamer either. -
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quote:
Originally posted by Gamecock:
Bid has moved from .052 to .055.
No news as of yet on Ameritrade for either.
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JF ROCKS and late fees SUCK!
GLTA!
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Originally posted by pegasus:
Do you guys think that we will fall below .055 today? Looking to pick up more but hesitant at .06. Ideas?
NOT TODAY
I don't belive we will see below .o55 -
ceo@pghi.biz
1. All the investors and trading going through are mainly investors already invested in PGHI
2. Our all time high is .061...I believe will difinitly break this, but we are stalling here just for the mere fact that some traders have put sell limits here...But very few...And we will break through it...
3. News will hit major streamers later in the day...Attracting attention to other major investors...This is major news in my mind...
zo
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Originally posted by jr:
the news is not showing on any of my streamers
Yah, it would have been sweet to have this PR hit "everyone". Well we still have the rest of the day, maybe later we shall see the late streamers pickup on this news.
Would be nice. - Marty
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Originally posted by tommy:
Let's all email PGHI to let them know about the news not showing up everywhere!ceo@pghi.biz
Have done this earylier this AM. I mentioned Knobias.com, eTrade, and AmeriTrade. We shall see. -
I still don't have it up on Ameritrade for either comapny.
Oh well.....its still good news.....especially that the comapny is giving LGMB a line of credit of $500,000
We must have got that money from somewhere....can some one say PPM
quote:
Originally posted by jr:
the news is not showing on any of my streamers
PLUS, WE WILL GET A PR ABOUT AN ALL TIME HIGH AGAIN. 5TH TIME IN A MONTH WOW...!!!!!!!
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Point Group Holdings and Legend Mobile Establish Joint Venture
FRANKLIN, KY and ANN ARBOR, MI -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 01/20/2004 -- Point Group Holdings, Incorporated (OTC BB: PGHI) and Legend Mobile (OTC BB: LGMB) today announced that they have reached a basic agreement that will create a joint venture between the two companies. The companies intend to collaborate on leveraging Legend Mobile's portfolio of entertainment relationships to develop and market Point Group's upcoming GameZnFlix.com online DVD and Game rental service.
The aim of the joint venture is to contribute Legend's expertise in the areas of entertainment marketing, licensing and branding, mobile advertising and stored value programs to the launch of Point Group Holdings' new online movie and game rental service to be known as GameZnFlix.com.
"I am excited to work with PGHI on this project. We look forward to contributing to the launch and success of this very competitive online rental service -- GameZnFlix.com," stated Peter Klamka, President of Legend Mobile.
In addition to the marketing efforts and strategy by Legend Mobile, Point Group Holdings will extend a credit facility to Legend Mobile of Five Hundred Thousand Dollars and Mr. Klamka will also be joining Point Group Holdings' Advisory Board which will be established in February 2004.
PGHI's CEO/President, John Fleming, stated, "We are fortunate to have the opportunity to work with Legend Mobile to bring GameZnFlix.com to the public, along with increasing our exposure of our online game rental company VeeGeeZ.com. The joint ventures we have planned will greatly assist our launch in February of GameZnFlix, as well as the future of both of the companies."
Highlighted Links
PGHI
VeeGeeZ
Since its inception in 1998, Legend Mobile has developed a number of commercial opportunities for celebrity brands in various new and traditional media. Mobile has been a pioneer in creating branded mobile products such as PDAs and mobile applications and accessories. Legend's work was highlighted in the industry study: "DoCoMo -- The Wireless Tsunami." Through its subsidiary, Legend Credit, the company creates stored value products such as gift cards and reloadable debit cards. Legend has worked with a range of world recognized brands and personalities. In the past five years, Legend's work has included Claudia Schiffer, Christina Aguilera, Hilary Duff, NASCAR personalities, Disney Records, Nelly, and Mandy Moore. Additionally, Mr. Klamka has worked with Paramount Pictures, the rock group KISS, and major distributors in the pay-per-view television industry.
Point Group Holdings, Incorporated is a holding company which, through its subsidiaries, provides management services to businesses that have an operating history or can substantiate future performance in their respective industries. The Company participates in companies in various fields of business by providing executive-level managerial assistance as well as arranging for and contributing capital investment.
For more information, contact John Fleming, CEO, PGHI, at 001.270.598.0385 or e-mail ceo@pghi.biz or examine the following websites:
Point Group Holdings, Incorporated: http://www.pghi.biz
VeeGeeZ.com, LLC: http://www.veegeez.com
Certain statements in this news release may contain forward-looking information within the meaning of Rule 175 under the Securities Act of 1933 and Rule 3b-6 under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, and are subject to the safe harbor created by those rules. All statements, other than statements of fact, included in this release, including, without limitation, statements regarding potential future plans and objectives of the company, are forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. There can be no assurance that such statements will prove to be accurate and actual results and future events could differ materially from those anticipated in such statements. Technical complications that may arise could prevent the prompt implementation of any strategically significant plan(s) outlined above. The company cautions that these forward-looking statements are further qualified by other factors including, but not limited to those, set forth in the company's Form 10-KSB filing and other filings with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission (available at www.sec.gov). The company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any statements in this release, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.
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Contact:
Point Group Holdings, Incorporated
John Fleming
270.598.0385
[This message has been edited by nitroburn (edited January 20, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by jr:
nobody in the otcforums.com chatroom knows about the news.. and there is close to 100 people in there. this is really frustrating, same thing happened with the last pr. this is GREAT news and nobody knows about it.
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Point Group Holdings and Legend Mobile Establish Joint Venture
FRANKLIN, KY and ANN ARBOR, MI -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 01/20/2004 -- Point Group Holdings, Incorporated (OTC BB: PGHI) and Legend Mobile (OTC BB: LGMB) today announced that they have reached a basic agreement that will create a joint venture between the two companies. The companies intend to collaborate on leveraging Legend Mobile's portfolio of entertainment relationships to develop and market Point Group's upcoming GameZnFlix.com online DVD and Game rental service.
The aim of the joint venture is to contribute Legend's expertise in the areas of entertainment marketing, licensing and branding, mobile advertising and stored value programs to the launch of Point Group Holdings' new online movie and game rental service to be known as GameZnFlix.com.
"I am excited to work with PGHI on this project. We look forward to contributing to the launch and success of this very competitive online rental service -- GameZnFlix.com," stated Peter Klamka, President of Legend Mobile.
In addition to the marketing efforts and strategy by Legend Mobile, Point Group Holdings will extend a credit facility to Legend Mobile of Five Hundred Thousand Dollars and Mr. Klamka will also be joining Point Group Holdings' Advisory Board which will be established in February 2004.
PGHI's CEO/President, John Fleming, stated, "We are fortunate to have the opportunity to work with Legend Mobile to bring GameZnFlix.com to the public, along with increasing our exposure of our online game rental company VeeGeeZ.com. The joint ventures we have planned will greatly assist our launch in February of GameZnFlix, as well as the future of both of the companies."
Highlighted Links
PGHI
VeeGeeZ
Since its inception in 1998, Legend Mobile has developed a number of commercial opportunities for celebrity brands in various new and traditional media. Mobile has been a pioneer in creating branded mobile products such as PDAs and mobile applications and accessories. Legend's work was highlighted in the industry study: "DoCoMo -- The Wireless Tsunami." Through its subsidiary, Legend Credit, the company creates stored value products such as gift cards and reloadable debit cards. Legend has worked with a range of world recognized brands and personalities. In the past five years, Legend's work has included Claudia Schiffer, Christina Aguilera, Hilary Duff, NASCAR personalities, Disney Records, Nelly, and Mandy Moore. Additionally, Mr. Klamka has worked with Paramount Pictures, the rock group KISS, and major distributors in the pay-per-view television industry.
Point Group Holdings, Incorporated is a holding company which, through its subsidiaries, provides management services to businesses that have an operating history or can substantiate future performance in their respective industries. The Company participates in companies in various fields of business by providing executive-level managerial assistance as well as arranging for and contributing capital investment.
For more information, contact John Fleming, CEO, PGHI, at 001.270.598.0385 or e-mail ceo@pghi.biz or examine the following websites:
Point Group Holdings, Incorporated: http://www.pghi.biz
VeeGeeZ.com, LLC: http://www.veegeez.com
Certain statements in this news release may contain forward-looking information within the meaning of Rule 175 under the Securities Act of 1933 and Rule 3b-6 under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, and are subject to the safe harbor created by those rules. All statements, other than statements of fact, included in this release, including, without limitation, statements regarding potential future plans and objectives of the company, are forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. There can be no assurance that such statements will prove to be accurate and actual results and future events could differ materially from those anticipated in such statements. Technical complications that may arise could prevent the prompt implementation of any strategically significant plan(s) outlined above. The company cautions that these forward-looking statements are further qualified by other factors including, but not limited to those, set forth in the company's Form 10-KSB filing and other filings with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission (available at www.sec.gov). The company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any statements in this release, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.
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Contact:
Point Group Holdings, Incorporated
John Fleming
270.598.0385
quote:
Originally posted by BelgarathGFRPG:
Anyone else having trouble with e-trade? I can't see my portfolio, everything shows up as <err> on my market trader.
Keep trying. I was having the same trouble, probably due to excess trafic coming off a holiday weekend.
quote:
Originally posted by Drake:
Keep trying. I was having the same trouble, probably due to excess trafic coming off a holiday weekend.
My market trader is now working but I still can't access my portfolio.
PGHI has informed Market Wire of the press release issue. -
dz
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
[b]Confirmed:
__________________________________________PGHI has informed Market Wire of the press release issue. -[/B]
quote:
Originally posted by brincher:
HI guys, I have bought some PGHI myself and was wondering in your opinoin........is this one a good hold for now.....and if so, how long? Thanks for your opinoins. Bri
Here is all the information you need:
http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/002524.html
within that thread you will find the "solid" answer you are looking for. -
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
The question is....will they do anything about it?...
Yes, that is a good question. Management knows about it and it is now in Market Wire's hands to make the proper corrections. PGHI also did make a specific request to Market Wire for Ameritrade. We shall see. -
From the way our last two PR's have driven down the price, I think I'll just hope we don't release anymore soon....LOL!
Don't let the MM's shake you out. I'm holding long and strong on this. Just puzzled as to why our PR's are screwed up every time. Someone at Equitilink or Market Wire needs fired.
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
[b]NOT TODAYI don't belive we will see below .o55 -[/B]
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
Hope you didn't make a bet on this! I'm absolutely shocked. Looks like .05 is on the way.From the way our last two PR's have driven down the price, I think I'll just hope we don't release anymore soon....LOL!
Don't let the MM's shake you out. I'm holding long and strong on this. Just puzzled as to why our PR's are screwed up every time. Someone at Equitilink or Market Wire needs fired.
Long and Strong!
Happened so many times with this stock and all stock! It's gonna come right back up!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
Hope you didn't make a bet on this! I'm absolutely shocked. Looks like .05 is on the way.From the way our last two PR's have driven down the price, I think I'll just hope we don't release anymore soon....LOL!
Don't let the MM's shake you out. I'm holding long and strong on this. Just puzzled as to why our PR's are screwed up every time. Someone at Equitilink or Market Wire needs fired.
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
What do you mean you're shocked? Buy on rumors, sell on the news, you 've never heard of that expression? Why do you think that we went up on no news?Happened so many times with this stock and all stock! It's gonna come right back up!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
What do you mean you're shocked? Buy on rumors, sell on the news, you 've never heard of that expression? Why do you think that we went up on no news?Happened so many times with this stock and all stock! It's gonna come right back up!
GLTA!
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Happened so many times with this stock and all stock! It's gonna come right back up!
GLTA!
[/QUOTE
TOMMY,
WORDS OF A TRUE INVESTOR.
TIME TO SADDLE UP!! GIDDY-UP!!!
I AM IN FOR A STRONG POSITION AT .052
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GLTA!
Originally posted by IAMSURE:
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Hi T77 are we gonna see a new high this week?[/B][/QUOTE]
Still not on my Ameritrade streamer. Still not on pinksheets. If nobody sees the news, we won't get new investors. New investors are what will drive it higher.
That's two PR's in a row that have not gotten exposure. I maintain that someone should be getting the heat for that.
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Originally posted by tommy:
What do you mean you're shocked? Buy on rumors, sell on the news, you 've never heard of that expression? Why do you think that we went up on no news?Happened so many times with this stock and all stock! It's gonna come right back up!
GLTA!
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Originally posted by PSU90:
Of course I've heard of that expression Tommy, but usually you wait for a little gain on the news. What we had this morning wasn't a gain I'd sell at. I expected more from the PR. The problem is that very few people outside of current shareholders have seen it.Still not on my Ameritrade streamer. Still not on pinksheets. If nobody sees the news, we won't get new investors. New investors are what will drive it higher.
That's two PR's in a row that have not gotten exposure. I maintain that someone should be getting the heat for that.
However, the good news is that this is still good news. Instead of juming right up through .10 and beyond, we are going to have a steady climb. Which I imgaine is better for long term. A slow rise to .30 is better then a quick jump (for the long term holders at least). The day traders will stay away from slow moving stocks....which will give us stronger support!
MAny great things to come for January and Febuary!
Hold long and be rewarded in the next few months.
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ceo@pghi.biz
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Originally posted by PSU90:
Of course I've heard of that expression Tommy, but usually you wait for a little gain on the news. What we had this morning wasn't a gain I'd sell at. I expected more from the PR. The problem is that very few people outside of current shareholders have seen it.Still not on my Ameritrade streamer. Still not on pinksheets. If nobody sees the news, we won't get new investors. New investors are what will drive it higher.
That's two PR's in a row that have not gotten exposure. I maintain that someone should be getting the heat for that.
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Originally posted by PSU90:
Of course I've heard of that expression Tommy, but usually you wait for a little gain on the news. What we had this morning wasn't a gain I'd sell at. I expected more from the PR. The problem is that very few people outside of current shareholders have seen it.Still not on my Ameritrade streamer. Still not on pinksheets. If nobody sees the news, we won't get new investors. New investors are what will drive it higher.
That's two PR's in a row that have not gotten exposure. I maintain that someone should be getting the heat for that.
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Originally posted by tommy:
Well if you are concerned, did you write to PGHI? I did!ceo@pghi.biz
This stock is a long term play. Gains have always been realized over weeks and months, not days. (maybe one or two exceptions to that)
People will take notice when endorsements start coming in and sub #'s increase. New website will be out soon...and they have new name change and also aquiring DVD's.......we will be just fine....
Go drink some coffee and think about the future.
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Well if you are concerned, did you write to PGHI? I did!ceo@pghi.biz
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GAMEZNFLIX COMING IN FEBUARY!!!!!!.
PGHI's CEO/President, John Fleming, stated, "We are fortunate to have the opportunity to work with Legend Mobile to bring GameZnFlix.com to the public, along with increasing our exposure of our online game rental company VeeGeeZ.com. The joint ventures we have planned will greatly assist our launch in February of GameZnFlix, as well as the future of both of the companies."
CELEB ENODORSEMENTS AND DVD's!!!!!!!!!
"The companies intend to collaborate on leveraging Legend Mobile's portfolio of entertainment relationships to develop and market Point Group's upcoming GameZnFlix.com online DVD and Game rental service."
CREDIT OF $500,000!!!!!!!!!!
"In addition to the marketing efforts and strategy by Legend Mobile, Point Group Holdings will extend a credit facility to Legend Mobile of Five Hundred Thousand Dollars and Mr. Klamka will also be joining Point Group Holdings' Advisory Board which will be established in February 2004."
pres
On the last PR, the PPS didn't run much either, but it increased slowly again after the PR. If you haven't figured out how PGHI trades yet, sit down and analyze it.
GLTA!
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Originally posted by presumptuous:
I mailed John too, the news should be seen anywhere...pres
We will see numbers 1&2 for sure in february, maybe #3 and 4, #5 is a hunch. I suspect #'s 4 & 5 will be made together.
Hopefully the problem with the PR releases will be fixed soon. It would be terrible if PGHI announced the new website and nobody knew about it. I still haven't seen anything on my etrade streamer.
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LATE FEES SUCK!
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
NOT TODAY
I don't believe we will see below .o55 -
Hmmm, interesting? As I pull my foot out of my mouth, "buy on rumor, sell on news".....
The play in PGHI has yet seize to amaze me. Well it does not help we did not get the full momentum of the PR. This is actually great news by surprise!
Going out on another limb here and say we close in the green, above our open. - Marty
**** Future's so Bright ****
mach
And this news caught most of us by suprise. I was expecting website or PPM info.....but this news is even better then that, for the long term that is.....
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
Hmmm, interesting? As I pull my foot out of my mouth, "buy on rumor, sell on news".....The play in PGHI has yet seize to amaze me. Well it does not help we did not get the full momentum of the PR. This is actually great news by surprise!
Going out on another limb here and say we close in the green, above our open. - Marty
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Originally posted by machtabow:
Let me help you guys out here. Friday it broke above resistance which had been .051. It then surged over two days to .061. After a break above resistance... you almost always get the retrace... In this case .052. I say .052.... because usually only MM"s get the fill on the retrace to .051. My point is you should be looking for entry @ .0521 or above. MACD crossover is occuring within the next trading day. The stock is trending up. Will likely see a move above .061... a big move within 3-5 trading days. If you can get any fills below .052 it's icing on the cake. If you sell at the current trading level... you are giving money away. Take care.**** Future's so Bright ****
mach
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Originally posted by machtabow:
MACD crossover is occuring within the next trading day. The stock is trending up. Will likely see a move above .061... a big move within 3-5 trading days.
**** Future's so Bright ****
mach
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LATE FEES SUCK!
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Originally posted by trader01:
hey was anyone expecting this PR specifically?
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LATE FEES SUCK!
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Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Mach's right as usual everyone. There's about to be a sharp MACD crossover above 0 and that's usually a huge bullish signal. Am I right or am I right Mach?
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
My news ticker just went off with this am pr. Lets see what this does. -
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LATE FEES SUCK!
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Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Yep..I see it on Ameritrade now.
j160e
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Marty,
This really is good news....and I think we all know this. Its funny, we all are expecting such great things from PGHI....to such an extent that we are not even talking about the great news in front of us. It will be interesting, when the dust setles, and we get some more DD going, to really understand what this news means. Celeberity endorsements is something that was just a fantasy to some.....now its starting to come together.And this news caught most of us by suprise. I was expecting website or PPM info.....but this news is even better then that, for the long term that is.....
One day we will all be able to tell the story of how we became rich with PGHI! Did you see NFLX's PPS? We'll be there one day, hang on to the roller-coaster ride and don't puke, the end of the tunnel is near!
GLTA!
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Originally posted by j160e:
I agree. This is like taking the keys to a new car but not having driven it off the dealer lot yet! Wait for pr's devoted to results of this venture. I can only dream of what they would be. They will be huge!j160e
Good luck all
I'm new to this board & have been following your post for a few weeks now about this great company. Don't know too much about how the stock game works, just the basics right now & look forward to learning much more.I bought 80,000 shares of PGHI earlier today. Hope this performs well in the days to come.
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Originally posted by trader01:
still no run on pps, hope tomorrow we can see a better run!Good luck all
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Livios.
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Originally posted by delt16:
brada-
its good to know there are a few people here who are helping PGHI's bottom line.
So far it seems like: You
Me
Tommy
are the only members of veegeez.com.
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Originally posted by Drake:
Does anyone have any idea as to what's going on at E*Trade today. My portfolio, as well as the streaming quotes, have been off-line since about 10:00am. Being down for an hour is one thing, but the whole day...?
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Originally posted by DiQuiRiesco:
I have a feeling that much of the drooping price today is due to people simply not understanding how huge this PR was, combined with day trader profit taking. NetFlix does not have Christine Agulara touting the ease of their service...while it is true Christine...or well pretty much any other celeb they will put forth hasn't the brains God gave salt it is true that millions of 12-25 year old males will certainly remember the commercials or web-ads. The news that will move this company will have to do with the opening of the website and the glorious birth of GameznFlix. Untill then....RELAX its gunna be ok. I used this opportunity to buy more and secure my seat at the millionaires dinner of 2005
Where is the dinner going to be held??
Fozzy
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Originally posted by delt16:
brada-
its good to know there are a few people here who are helping PGHI's bottom line.
So far it seems like: You
Me
Tommy
are the only allstocks members who are veegeez.com members as well.[This message has been edited by delt16 (edited January 20, 2004).]
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Originally posted by delt16:
Fozzy-
I am the same way. My XBOX doesn't get very much use but, I'm sure it will get more use when I pick up my 50" Plasma TV after PGHI takes off.
20$ a month is a small price to pay when you look at the big picture.
I will be upgrading when they rent DVD's as well.
It would be nice to see a large increase in memberships in their next 10Q![This message has been edited by delt16 (edited January 20, 2004).]
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Originally posted by fozzy:
That shouldn't be too hard, seeing how we don't really know how many they have now!
well they should know. you would think that they would tell us if they are gaining more members
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Originally posted by delt16:
i am going to buy 150 shares to get this thing moving!
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Originally posted by delt16:
i am going to buy 150 shares to get this thing moving!
16:00:39 22544 0.055 + OTCBB T (F)
16:00:27 150 0.055 + OTCBB
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Originally posted by fozzy:
Buy 100 to make people think the MM's put out a "need shares" signal
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
16:00:39 22544 0.055 + OTCBB T (F)
16:00:27 150 0.055 + OTCBB
100 > I need shares
200 > I need shares badly but dont take it down to get em
300 > Take the price down to get shares....
400 > Trade it sideways based on Supply and Demand
500 > Gap one way or the other, usually to the direction
of the 500 trade. Sometimes -if in the middle -keep the price right where it is.
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It will be very interesting to see what future "PR" releases do to the PPS. I guess maybe next time Marketwire can execute it properly this would help. I know that we could have broke .061 if all had the release. Then when it came time for the short timers to sell, we would have not retraced so far back.
Anyway any input would greatly be appreciated. -
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Originally posted by fozzy:
haha, I can't believe you actually did it, delt. I hope you're using freetrade
Why do you think ameritrade beat estimates today??
this would probably drive techies like cabbage crazy!!
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Originally posted by trader01:
would it help if someone (I am willing to) bought 150 shares at 8 cents. maybe someone looking to invest would see that it hit a high of 8 cents and would immediately buy some more expecting it to reach there again.this would probably drive techies like cabbage crazy!!
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
Today has been the most frustrating trading day of PGHI, since I have owned it. Today's news was major and we close even? Just by the skin of the teeth too!It will be very interesting to see what future "PR" releases do to the PPS. I guess maybe next time Marketwire can execute it properly this would help. I know that we could have broke .061 if all had the release. Then when it came time for the short timers to sell, we would have not retraced so far back.
Anyway any input would greatly be appreciated. -
Although this is a very big PR, it was something that nobody was expecting. Personaly, I am not worried about what happened today. Dont get me wrong, I would have loved to see this break its 52 week high, but it didn't. We have many more expected PR's on the way that will make this really move. Hold strong because the potential for huge gains is right here. I think this will move higher in the next couple days once evryone realizes how big this news is. Having celebrities endorsing Gameznflix would be HUGE!
Dont worry abot the day by day price change.....get excited about your future LARGE bankroll.
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Originally posted by trader01:
would it help if someone (I am willing to) bought 150 shares at 8 cents. maybe someone looking to invest would see that it hit a high of 8 cents and would immediately buy some more expecting it to reach there again.this would probably drive techies like cabbage crazy!!
It wouldn't happen...you could but in a buy @ 1.00 and it would fill @ .055.
On a serious note, I think that many people will only see the news this evening and tomorrow we should see a better trading day. Damn Market Wire, PGHI should kick them to the curb!
GLTA!
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Originally posted by trader01:
would it help if someone (I am willing to) bought 150 shares at 8 cents. maybe someone looking to invest would see that it hit a high of 8 cents and would immediately buy some more expecting it to reach there again.this would probably drive techies like cabbage crazy!!
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
Today has been the most frustrating trading day of PGHI, since I have owned it. Today's news was major and we close even? Just by the skin of the teeth too!It will be very interesting to see what future "PR" releases do to the PPS. I guess maybe next time Marketwire can execute it properly this would help. I know that we could have broke .061 if all had the release. Then when it came time for the short timers to sell, we would have not retraced so far back.
Anyway any input would greatly be appreciated. -
Please don't get me wrong about the above statement. I am not worried nor am I selling. I just wanted to convey how frustrated I was with todays activity. -
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Actions speak louder than words.
Join www.veegeez.com for 19.95/month. More members = higher revenues!
Now that Legend Mobile is on board, maybe they will get into the Mobile Gaming area too... something to think about!
Merger anyone?
GLTA!
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Originally posted by delt16:
Does anyone know if PGHI plans on selling or just closing its other subsidaries AMCorp and Naturally Safe. Or will they continue to market these services/products?
Fozzy
GLTA!
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Originally posted by pegasus:
PGHI down to .0535 in afterhours trading, Volume 10000.
So imagine once our new sleek looking webpage is out and a kick ass marketing campaign initiated.Maybe Christina Agulaera or Hillary Duff promotiong Veegeez on TV and Website....We will all look back and laugh and say remember when we were at .05 ;-)
All the above is JMHO
Marketwire got a whooping from John and PGHI's management today!
GLTA!
Hehe pegasus, there is NO after hour trading for OTCBB's, what you saw is the last trade that couldn't go right before the bell and was posted after the bell rang.
American Bulls gave PGHI a buy signal!!
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Actions speak louder than words.
Join www.veegeez.com for 19.95/month. More members = higher revenues!
I see LGMB as haveing a real ruff time rainsing money the last couple of years. Wouldn't want to invest in them personally.
However, what I LOVE seeing is that even though LGMB had some serious issues with cash flow they were still able to get celeb contracts.
I think someone in this company mut have some friends in hollywood or they are extremely lucky.
Which is probablly why PGHI chose them. PGHI can give $500,000 credit to LGMB and set them lose to get those celeb contracts.
LGMB may have failed at raising money with the Micheal Jordan deal, BUT, they were able to get him. And, Hillary Duff, Chritina Agulara (sp?), Rusty Wallace etc, etc..
We only need one celeb, and a lot of exposure. Internet and some adds in Game Magazines. TV commercials will probablly wait because it costs so much money....
Christina Agulara says: "Late fee's Sssssuck"
Wow, its HOT!
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Think more in lines with gaming...NASCAR RACING maybe...or some new and up and coming hot star...
On a more private note: Really glad I was not home today....not sure If I could have handled watching the pps go down after this PR.
Best!
The correction is over and the stock is starting a new rally. It is again time for bulls. You may make hefty profits if you buy this stock now and hold it until the next sell signal. Long-term trend is also bullish.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Hang in there all newbies , this is not a ththf or afrr, this is the real deal. Lots of long term support. Can't wait for .50, maybe 6 months with bumps in the road but thats how strong support works. Cheers.
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Originally posted by trader01:
would it help if someone (I am willing to) bought 150 shares at 8 cents. maybe someone looking to invest would see that it hit a high of 8 cents and would immediately buy some more expecting it to reach there again.this would probably drive techies like cabbage crazy!!
)I use Christina Agulara as an example...it could be anyone...in fact I think Joe Black would be great for it....But it doesn't have to be a up and comer...
And Nascar is a terrible place to advertise VeeGeez....its not our target audience at all. I lived in the south, and believe me, the majority of Nascar fans do not play video games. They are blue colar workers who drink Budwieser.
But regardless, don't sell us short (no pun intended ) We don't have to offer anyone that much money up front.
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Originally posted by Gonnaplode:
It would take more than half a million to get Christine Aquilera for a sponsor...Think more in lines with gaming...NASCAR RACING maybe...or some new and up and coming hot star...
On a more private note: Really glad I was not home today....not sure If I could have handled watching the pps go down after this PR.
Best!
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Originally posted by studiophobia:
I know some of you guys roll your eyes at the mention of this....BUTAmerican Bulls gave PGHI a buy signal!!
No way. Not now
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Originally posted by phantom1107:
The only way to get advertising at the
Super Bowl is to hold your VeeGeez.com
sign for all to see. Unroll that baby
(2 person job) and don't forget to "tip"
the cameraman. Cheers to all!
I am curious as to what affect the rerelease of the PR will do. By tommorow morning I would imagine most would already know about it.
If I were you, I would buy tommorow and hold for a couple of weeks. Even if you buy, and it goes down a little..it will eventually go back up....IMO
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Originally posted by Saving4KidsCollege:
Is there any chance that instead of releasing the same msg again, that JF would release the next in line PR?
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Originally posted by Saving4KidsCollege:
Is there any chance that instead of releasing the same msg again, that JF would release the next in line PR?
However, JF said he does not like to release PR's on forward looking things, that is, things that have not come to pass.
So, I think there is no chance of releasing anything thats upcoming.
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Originally posted by Saving4KidsCollege:
Is there any chance that instead of releasing the same msg again, that JF would release the next in line PR?
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BetNitAll:
Shake it like a polaroid picture :)
GO PGHI!!!!!
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BetNitAll:
Shake it, Shake it!
Shake it like a polaroid picture
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19000 shares
Great start to building your fortune is with PGHI....
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Originally posted by Randy803:
I am making my first real stock purchase!I decided on 19000 shares of GamezNFlix as I do not have much money (Trying to change that). Just wanted to stand and be counted. Thanks!19000 shares
We could be .30 to 1.00
The reason I do not think we wil be over a dollar is because the amount of dilution of the shares.
We could do a reverse split, but I don't think thats at the top of JF's list.
I would be happy with .50 to .80 in a year, as long as we saw sub # growth and additional distribution centers.
JF said he plays the buissness plan, not the stock market. Therefore, reaching a dollar will be addressed when JF wants to address it...which I think will be addressed in 2005 or beyond.
There is a lot on the plate for this year. Distribution centers, new online DVD rental....celeb endorsments, inventory build up..
A dollar will come when it comes....
Remember NetFlix's first couple of years...they had a rough start, but they kept building those sub numbers...then rest just fell in line...
Most of this is speculation on my part...who the heck really knows where we will be in a year. But I am not predicting a dollar with in a year.
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Originally posted by Brada777:
Realistically what do you guys think we could be at in a year?
Just curious...
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BetNitAll:
Shake it! Shake it!
Shake it like a polaroid picture :)
GLTA!
fzhowandai@yahoo.com
Before I invested in the PPM, I talked to JF about Netflix. He assured me that they have studdied NetFlix and are going to use some of their model in our buissness plan. That gives you a vote of confidence. He is not jumping into this head first. He is taking his time, learning from similar things
NetFlix started out as a private company....GamezNflix is starting out as a public company...
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Originally posted by Brada777:
Thanks for the input. I am still new and have not been doing this very long. I did see that Netflix opened out at $15. What benefit does Gameznflix have being traded versus the route Netflix went?
If you ever have any doubt on where PGHI can be in 5 years....just go to the NetFlix website and start reading through their press releases. Start at the begining, in order to get a good idea of how they started out.
When NetFlix started out you had to pay more then three dollars per movie rental, and you could only have it for less then a week....See where they are now.
NetFlix became huge by some great advertising with DVD player makers, and circuit city. When NetFlix began to be noticed, a group of investors came along and invested $80 million dollars.
There is no reason the PGHI cannot do the same. Its all in the management. We just need to be noticed, and the rest will fall in line.
When you read NetFlix press release, watch how fast there sub # increased.
The video game field is wide open, and we have the advantage being a public traded company. A few years down the line, we could all be extremely well off financially for just a small investment. Tuck those shares under your pillow for a while...or better yet, buy into the PPM
Once we begin to get moving, we will flyyyyyy
NetFlix is able to set up a distributuin center for $60,000.....
We could go from a couple hundred subs in 2003 to tens of thousands by the end of 2004 or 2005.
Just a thousand subs brings us 20,000 in revenue a month
10,000 subs would bring us $200,000 revenue a month...then we flyyyy
Holy ****, we could all be rich in a few years. Especially you Tommy....you could be a millionair by the end of the year.....
Heck tommy, you could have 10 million is a couple of years, even with a reverse split.....
I have got a little time on my hotel guest room computer. Looks like we have had some unexpected news stiring the emotions today.
I do find it interesting how some of us get all worked up when we get the day to day events causeing the price to change both dramatically up and down and then back again.
If you are in this for the long run or even for a couple of weeks then you will be greatly rewarded.
John Flemming is going to be releaseing the proper news when the time comes. He has struck me as a person who reports on what has been done and not what is to be.
We have an excellent marketing plan to learn from with Netflex. The advantage which our company has is that there is a proven footprint to learn from. You do not have to invent the wheel but just need to reshape it to your own needs.
I will be going to Chicago tomorrow and then on to Kentucky in a couple of days.
Good Luck to all
Magoo
PSU
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
ALL NEWBIES, and some old timers too!If you ever have any doubt on where PGHI can be in 5 years....just go to the NetFlix website and start reading through their press releases. Start at the begining, in order to get a good idea of how they started out.
When NetFlix started out you had to pay more then three dollars per movie rental, and you could only have it for less then a week....See where they are now.
NetFlix became huge by some great advertising with DVD player makers, and circuit city. When NetFlix began to be noticed, a group of investors came along and invested $80 million dollars.There is no reason the PGHI cannot do the same. Its all in the management. We just need to be noticed, and the rest will fall in line.
When you read NetFlix press release, watch how fast there sub # increased.
The video game field is wide open, and we have the advantage being a public traded company. A few years down the line, we could all be extremely well off financially for just a small investment. Tuck those shares under your pillow for a while...or better yet, buy into the PPM
Once we begin to get moving, we will flyyyyyyNetFlix is able to set up a distributuin center for $60,000.....
We could go from a couple hundred subs in 2003 to tens of thousands by the end of 2004 or 2005.
Just a thousand subs brings us 20,000 in revenue a month
10,000 subs would bring us $200,000 revenue a month...then we flyyyy
Which has me thinking.... WTF am I going to do when vacation time comes around. I don't know if I can live up to my pledge of no computer while on vacation!!!!
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Originally posted by Magoo:
Hi gangI have got a little time on my hotel guest room computer. Looks like we have had some unexpected news stiring the emotions today.
I do find it interesting how some of us get all worked up when we get the day to day events causeing the price to change both dramatically up and down and then back again.
If you are in this for the long run or even for a couple of weeks then you will be greatly rewarded.
John Flemming is going to be releaseing the proper news when the time comes. He has struck me as a person who reports on what has been done and not what is to be.
We have an excellent marketing plan to learn from with Netflex. The advantage which our company has is that there is a proven footprint to learn from. You do not have to invent the wheel but just need to reshape it to your own needs.
I will be going to Chicago tomorrow and then on to Kentucky in a couple of days.
Good Luck to all
Magoo
He would be worth 1 billion dollars when we hit $10 a share (w/no revers split. With one he would only be worth $500 million)
HA HA HA HA HA
Who gets the last laugh. JF will be laughing all the way to the bank.
My millions will not be too far behind!
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BetNitAll:
Shake it! Shake it!
Shake it like a polaroid picture :)
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Originally posted by PSU90:
Words of wisdom Magoo! You know you are an addict when you can't even take a business trip and stay away from the board more than a few hours....LOL!Which has me thinking.... WTF am I going to do when vacation time comes around. I don't know if I can live up to my pledge of no computer while on vacation!!!!
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Now....if I take a stroll through the lobby and find a guest computer.....
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Wireless PDA! I got one....
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
Words of wisdom Magoo! You know you are an addict when you can't even take a business trip and stay away from the board more than a few hours....LOL!Which has me thinking.... WTF am I going to do when vacation time comes around. I don't know if I can live up to my pledge of no computer while on vacation!!!!
Funny how PGHI gets in your blood. Here I am trying to get some contracts signed which would be a couple of the largest which my company has had for years and I am more interest in seeing what PGHI is doing.
PGHI is more fun
Magoo
I was just about to invest in the PPM tonight (well tomorrow) and then I came across one little snag in the offering document. Maybe this is standard in all PPMs, but I'm looking for a little explanation. What will happen if in a year I want to sell some of my PPM-acquired shares?
Here's what I'm referring to:
quote:
...the transferability of the Shares is substantially restricted; investors in the Company have no rights to require the Shares
to be registered under the Act; there will likely be no public market for the Shares; and, accordingly, it may not be possible for him to liquidate his or her investment in the Company;
GLTA!
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Originally posted by Gonnaplode:
It would take more than half a million to get Christine Aquilera for a sponsor...Think more in lines with gaming...NASCAR RACING maybe...or some new and up and coming hot star...
On a more private note: Really glad I was not home today....not sure If I could have handled watching the pps go down after this PR.
Best!
When you read NetFlix press release, watch how fast there sub # increased.
Here it is:
Netflix Revenues and # of Subscribers for year end were:
1998 - $1,339,000 / NA
1999 - $5,006,000 / 107,000
2000 - $35,894,000 / 252,000
2001 - $75,912,000 / 456,000
2002 - $152,806,000 / 857,000
2003* - $191,058,000 / 1,291,000 as of *Sept. 30
j160e
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Originally posted by PSU90:
BetNit....I like how you think!PSU
j160e
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Originally posted by Bazooka:
you guys and your millions of shares, to bad i only got 4000. is it possible we will see a dollar in a month or two?
But commmon sence tells you that if the comapny fails and is taken off the OTCC then there would be no market for them
Like the documents say, there is a substanial risk involved in the PPM.
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Originally posted by RedBullish:
*IMPORTANT PPM QUESTION*I was just about to invest in the PPM tonight (well tomorrow) and then I came across one little snag in the offering document. Maybe this is standard in all PPMs, but I'm looking for a little explanation. What will happen if in a year I want to sell some of my PPM-acquired shares?
Here's what I'm referring to:
[QUOTE]...the transferability of the Shares is substantially restricted; investors in the Company have no rights to require the Shares
to be registered under the Act; there will likely be no public market for the Shares; and, accordingly, it may not be possible for him to liquidate his or her investment in the Company;
They will build their inventory....open dist center....start a mass advertising campaign.
We will see our biggest gains (sub #'s---increased revenue) towards the end of 2004
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Originally posted by j160e:
Me too...Netflix paved the way. JF knows what needs to be done. It's only a matter of time before we begin to post similar numbers.When you read NetFlix press release, watch how fast there sub # increased.
Here it is:
Netflix Revenues and # of Subscribers for year end were:
1998 - $1,339,000 / NA
1999 - $5,006,000 / 107,000
2000 - $35,894,000 / 252,000
2001 - $75,912,000 / 456,000
2002 - $152,806,000 / 857,000
2003* - $191,058,000 / 1,291,000 as of *Sept. 30j160e
Have a great night all!
j160e
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Almost doubled their sub #'s yearly...We just have to get going.. And that means building up our inventory and opening distribution centers..... Not haveing enough games, and the ones you have takeing 5 days to get to your customers are not a good start.They will build their inventory....open dist center....start a mass advertising campaign.
We will see our biggest gains (sub #'s---increased revenue) towards the end of 2004
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Originally posted by j160e:
I wonder what the Netflix site looked like back in 1998?
The earliest version I could find was from 1999. The images are messed up but this gives you an idea of what the Netflix site looked like back then.
http://web.archive.org/web/19990117011532/http://www.netflix.com/
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Originally posted by adrenalix:
The earliest version I could find was from 1999. The images are messed up but this gives you an idea of what the Netflix site looked like back then.
http://web.archive.org/web/19990117011532/http://www.netflix.com/
its now making sense. after checking e-mail tonight i see that i did not receive an "alert" from cbs marketwatch til late in the afternoon after market closed which is very unusual them. They're usually right on top of any pr releases.
what happened? why the delay?
oh well . not worried and tomorrows another day and the news will still be very exciting for all to see.
sure hope some lucky buyers had an opportunity to buy today!
GL2all,,,,, tradn4fun/itsatrade/johnin773
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Originally posted by adrenalix:
The earliest version I could find was from 1999. The images are messed up but this gives you an idea of what the Netflix site looked like back then.
http://web.archive.org/web/19990117011532/http://www.netflix.com/
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FRANKLIN, KY AND ANN ARBOR, MI -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 01/21/04 -- Point
Group Holdings, Incorporated (OTC BB: PGHI) and Legend Mobile (OTC
BB: LGMB) today announced that they have reached a basic agreement
that will create a joint venture between the two companies. The
companies intend to collaborate on leveraging Legend Mobile's
portfolio of entertainment relationships to develop and market Point
Group's upcoming GameZnFlix.com online DVD and Game rental service.The aim of the joint venture is to contribute Legend's expertise in
the areas of entertainment marketing, licensing and branding, mobile
advertising and stored value programs to the launch of Point Group
Holdings' new online movie and game rental service to be known as
GameZnFlix.com."I am excited to work with PGHI on this project. We look forward to
contributing to the launch and success of this very competitive
online rental service -- GameZnFlix.com," stated Peter Klamka,
President of Legend Mobile.In addition to the marketing efforts and strategy by Legend Mobile,
Point Group Holdings will extend a credit facility to Legend Mobile of
Five Hundred Thousand Dollars, and Mr. Klamka will also be joining
Point Group Holdings' Advisory Board, which will be established in
February 2004.PGHI's CEO/President John Fleming stated, "We are fortunate to have
the opportunity to work with Legend Mobile to bring GameZnFlix.com to
the public, along with increasing our exposure of our online game
rental company VeeGeeZ.com. The joint ventures we have planned will
greatly assist our launch in February of GameZnFlix, as well as the
future of both of the companies."Since its inception in 1998, Legend Mobile has developed a number of
commercial opportunities for celebrity brands in various new and
traditional media. Mobile has been a pioneer in creating branded
mobile products such as PDAs and mobile applications and accessories.
Legend's work was highlighted in the industry study: "DoCoMo -- The
Wireless Tsunami." Through its subsidiary, Legend Credit, the company
creates stored value products such as gift cards and reloadable debit
cards. Legend has worked with a range of world-recognized brands and
personalities. In the past five years, Legend's work has included
Claudia Schiffer, Christina Aguilera, Hilary Duff, NASCAR
personalities, Disney Records, Nelly, and Mandy Moore. Additionally,
Mr. Klamka has worked with Paramount Pictures, the rock group KISS,
and major distributors in the pay-per-view television industry.Point Group Holdings, Incorporated is a holding company which,
through its subsidiaries, provides management services to businesses
that have an operating history or can substantiate future performance
in their respective industries. The Company participates in
companies in various fields of business by providing executive-level
managerial assistance as well as arranging for and contributing
capital investment.For more information, contact John Fleming, CEO, PGHI, at
001.270.598.0385 or e-mail ceo@pghi.biz or examine the following
websites:Point Group Holdings, Incorporated: http://www.pghi.biz
VeeGeeZ.com, LLC: http://www.veegeez.com
Certain statements in this news release may contain forward-looking
information within the meaning of Rule 175 under the Securities Act
of 1933 and Rule 3b-6 under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, and
are subject to the safe harbor created by those rules. All
statements, other than statements of fact, included in this release,
including, without limitation, statements regarding potential future
plans and objectives of the company, are forward-looking statements
that involve risks and uncertainties. There can be no assurance that
such statements will prove to be accurate and actual results and
future events could differ materially from those anticipated in such
statements. Technical complications that may arise could prevent the
prompt implementation of any strategically significant plan(s)
outlined above. The company cautions that these forward-looking
statements are further qualified by other factors including, but not
limited to those, set forth in the company's Form 10-KSB filing and
other filings with the United States Securities and Exchange
Commission (available at www.sec.gov). The company undertakes no
obligation to publicly update or revise any statements in this
release, whether as a result of new information, future events or
otherwise.Contact:
Point Group Holdings, Incorporated
John Fleming
270.598.0385
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Originally posted by drwright68:
anybody want to speculate as to the LOI that will be announced this week?....yesterday's news was not it!
It was not "it" persay, but I think if it's widely read today as it was not yesterday, then we might see a decent gain. GL!
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I consider this stock an investment, not a trade. And most advisors will tell you that if you're investing in a company just get in now. Don't try to time the market.
But looking at the charts adn the fact that the news is everywhere now, I wil predict that we will close above .055 today.
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Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
I know exactly what it's going to be. However, I can't divulge such confidential information.
Come on lets be realistic, isn't this flirting with insider information? Why make a statement like this, knowing you cannot disclose the information? All this does is get people worked up with frustrations.
If you privileged to some "confidential" information maybe next time you should keep the entire notion 100% confidential, right?
Just my thoughts this am, - Marty
GLTA!!
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Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
I know exactly what it's going to be. However, I can't divulge such confidential information.
HUGE NEWS COMING!!!!! hahahahahaha
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Originally posted by drwright68:
hehehhhehee, well i know that you know and you know that I know...hehehehehe...the important thing is that yesterday's PR was just a bonus, it has nothing to do with the LOI and MUCH more good news that is going to be announced.
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Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Haha...just remember to keep it on the down low.HUGE NEWS COMING!!!!! hahahahahaha
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
anyone else get the rerelease on their streamer
I received it this am, including a SEC filing:
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Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
I know exactly what it's going to be. However, I can't divulge such confidential information.
post on there if you would and GLTU!
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Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Oh, it's nothing.
Don't Be FOOL!!!okey?
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Originally posted by VeeHappy:
Don't Be FOOL!!!okey?
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David