Not sure if there is already a post for this, let me know. I have questions for those who have knowledge.
Purl Gurl you have been in this game for a long time. I'm not sure if your still holding this, but any and all of your thoughts and opinions would be apprieciated. One question I have is, if there is a shorting of shares, how long after the ticker symbol change will they have to cover? Anyone that truely knows, please fill free to answer. Thanks Posted by cassity on :
Hey Purl, you around tonight?
Posted by YellowSubmarine on :
Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd. Receives Investment Capital and Releases Financial Information
DUBAI, UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, Aug 03, 2006 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- Wessal International is pleased to announce that Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd.'s (PINKSHEETS: SLJB) financials are currently available on www.suljabros.com
CEO Steve Sulja states: "Sulja Bros. is pleased to release financial statements to the investing community. The posted financials are a compilation of Sulja Bros. and all of its North American and Middle Eastern wholly owned subsidiaries. We had a great year and our Middle East projects are supplying tremendous growth. We look forward to another outstanding year with increased net profits and growth."
Wessal International has arranged for private financing of USD 25 million, of investment capital, for Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd.
A Wessal International spokesperson commented, "We have acquired private financing to secure the vast supplies and materials needed in the rapidly growing operations in the Middle Eastern market. This will necessitate and alleviate the capital required for such an extensive demand for building materials. The capital attained will ensure that Sulja Bros. will not use company shares to raise capital in the near or distant future, and will continue to not only maintain the upward climb towards a high price per share, but to also steadily rise towards a higher market exchange."
Sulja Brothers Building Supply, Inc. ( SLJB ): Poster Advisory: http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=22679792 . The Sulja Brothers established their business in 1986. They carry pressure treated lumber of only an excellent quality. For roofing excellence they carry CRC shingles. CRC has successfully combined technology and beauty, to create and innovative line-up of traditional 3-tab and architectural organic asphalt shingles. Quality raw materials, leading edge technology and impressive designs guarantee CRC customers the very best roofing products available. They are proud to carry "quality products for the handyman". Website(s):http://suljabros.com/ .. http://consultechconstruction.com/ Posted by YellowSubmarine on :
Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd. Seeks Listing on the Dubai International Financial Exchange
WINDSOR, ON, Aug 03, 2006 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd. (PINKSHEETS: SLJB) is seeking a listing on the Dubai International Financial Exchange. The new United Arab Emirates exchange is dedicated to becoming a global financial hub.
A Wessal International Group spokesperson commented: "Recent deals have generated great interest in Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd. We are now working with one of the largest investment banking firms to complete the listing of Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd. on the Dubai International Financial Exchange."
CEO Steve Sulja stated: "Our recent dealings in the Gulf Region have greatly attracted the attention of the regional investors. We are very excited and working diligently to provide these savvy investors with a Dubai listing. We warmly welcome the Middle Eastern investors to the Sulja family of shareholders and look forward to even further expansion in this and other regions."
SOURCE: Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd.
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Posted by YellowSubmarine on :
Sulja Bros. Building Supplies Informs Shareholders That a Recent Fax Blast Is Not From the Company
WINDSOR, ON, Aug 04, 2006 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd. (PINKSHEETS: SLJB) has been made aware and is in receipt of a fax blast that was sent out from 2006 Market Sine. Sulja Brothers is not connected to and did not pay for a fax blast from Market Sine.
CEO Steve Sulja states: "Sulja Brothers is outraged by this recent spam concerning the company. We have already paid for a search with Intelius that will reveal the name of the fax spammer. The assisted search will take 24 to 48 hours to reveal the fax publishers identity. Intelius has already confirmed that the identity will be known from public utility records. Our lawyers will continue the investigation, when the phone number search is finished. We apologize to our investors for the inconvenience and we will pursue the publisher to final justice. There has never been, and will not be, any shareholder dilution."
Sulja also states, "We strongly believe that we have reached many shareholders through legal means and we are happy with the progress we are making, we have absolutely no interest what so ever to pursue spam and any other sort of mass mailing advertisement to attract the attention of a few measly dollars, we hold our shareholders with utmost respect and will continue to retain their trust. We state again, Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd. had nothing to do with the fax blast. Necessary investigatory actions have begun and our legal team will proceed to undertake legal remedies against those individuals responsible."
SOURCE: Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd.
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Posted by cassity on :
Purl, if you get a chance this weekend, I would love to know your thoughts on this. Haven't seen ya around lately. I was reading on IHUB the other night, while you were on, but there are so many idiots over there you left. Thanks
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Cassity, sorry, I have been unable to respond as much as I would like.
You read my articles elsewhere, you read my predictions for share price behavior, early last week. My predictions are proven absolutely dead on accurate.
Because of those predictions and my not pumping this stock, elsewhere, I was harassed and my articles deleted.
Nonetheless, what I wrote was proven to be dead accurate, right to the penny.
For now, this is a pump and dump stock.
However, there are some positives. Recently released financials are very impressive. I am waiting for audited financials to be sure what is released is true and accurate.
Volume is extremely high which is both a positive and a negative. Positive is you can flip with a lot of safety. Prices will not change drastically, certainly not in a matter of minutes.
This one will continue to trade in a range of .095 to .13 with very little variation, up or down. Maybe a down spike, an up spike, but not for more than an hour or two.
Negative on volume is either dilution is taking place or naked shorting is taking place. I have not checked the SHO list in a few days. I am leaning towards dilution, although the company claims no dilution. Reason for this is prices are far too stable for naked shorting.
Cassity, this is an excellent flipper stock. I have gone through almost 300,000 shares early last week. Extreme volume makes this possible, and only extreme volume.
My opinion is to not hold this stock for more than one day, maybe overnight if you want to avoid the "Pattern Day Trader" restriction. Overnight is ok but very risky.
Try to buy at .095 / .10 then flip at .11 / .13 per share, if you can. Trading in high volume is how you will make good money.
Another opinion is be ready to buy a large amount of shares to hold for a couple of weeks, for a couple of months. If those unaudited financials prove to be true, if nothing negative comes about, I am fairly confident this one will move up to the .18 to .25 range, once volume settles down and once audited financials are released.
Again, recent financials released are excellent. Dilution or naked shorting is taking place. This one can be flipped safely while volume is high. There are present high risks, but less than we expect for a penny stock. Do not hold this stock until it is very clear those financials are true. Flip all you want, but do not hold.
Next week, behavior should be like last week. Do watch for signs of a sudden up run. Jump in and jump out as fast as you can. This one is being heavily pumped so share prices can instantly become very volatile despite high volume. Flip, do not hold until you are certain holding is safe and the right strategy.
I will post more as information is developed.
Almost forgot, be sure to consider the effect of the "blast fax" and the company response. None can predict how this will play out. I am leaning towards a negative effect on share price.
Another almost forget I am editing in. Those thousands of claims Market Makers are manipulating this stock are a load of mule manure. Additionally, there is NO short squeeze taking place. That also is a load of mule manure.
Stay away from the I-Hub board. I mean this.
Debate my opinion, please. Prove me wrong. Nothing more I would enjoy than to be wrong. You best do this with factual verifiable information. If you harass me, I will do all I can to have you removed from Allstocks. I will not tolerate any of you harassing me.
Purl Gurl
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by Purl Gurl: Cassity, sorry, I have been unable to respond as much as I would like.
You read my articles elsewhere, you read my predictions for share price behavior, early last week. My predictions are proven absolutely dead on accurate.
Because of those predictions and my not pumping this stock, elsewhere, I was harassed and my articles deleted.
Nonetheless, what I wrote was proven to be dead accurate, right to the penny.
For now, this is a pump and dump stock.
However, there are some positives. Recently released financials are very impressive. I am waiting for audited financials to be sure what is released is true and accurate.
Volume is extremely high which is both a positive and a negative. Positive is you can flip with a lot of safety. Prices will not change drastically, certainly not in a matter of minutes.
This one will continue to trade in a range of .095 to .13 with very little variation, up or down. Maybe a down spike, an up spike, but not for more than an hour or two.
Negative on volume is either dilution is taking place or naked shorting is taking place. I have not checked the SHO list in a few days. I am leaning towards dilution, although the company claims no dilution. Reason for this is prices are far too stable for naked shorting.
Cassity, this is an excellent flipper stock. I have gone through almost 300,000 shares early last week. Extreme volume makes this possible, and only extreme volume.
My opinion is to not hold this stock for more than one day, maybe overnight if you want to avoid the "Pattern Day Trader" restriction. Overnight is ok but very risky.
Try to buy at .095 / .10 then flip at .11 / .13 per share, if you can. Trading in high volume is how you will make good money.
Another opinion is be ready to buy a large amount of shares to hold for a couple of weeks, for a couple of months. If those unaudited financials prove to be true, if nothing negative comes about, I am fairly confident this one will move up to the .18 to .25 range, once volume settles down and once audited financials are released.
Again, recent financials released are excellent. Dilution or naked shorting is taking place. This one can be flipped safely while volume is high. There are present high risks, but less than we expect for a penny stock. Do not hold this stock until it is very clear those financials are true. Flip all you want, but do not hold.
Next week, behavior should be like last week. Do watch for signs of a sudden up run. Jump in and jump out as fast as you can. This one is being heavily pumped so share prices can instantly become very volatile despite high volume. Flip, do not hold until you are certain holding is safe and the right strategy.
I will post more as information is developed.
Almost forgot, be sure to consider the effect of the "blast fax" and the company response. None can predict how this will play out. I am leaning towards a negative effect on share price.
Another almost forget I am editing in. Those thousands of claims Market Makers are manipulating this stock are a load of mule manure. Additionally, there is NO short squeeze taking place. That also is a load of mule manure.
Stay away from the I-Hub board. I mean this.
Debate my opinion, please. Prove me wrong. Nothing more I would enjoy than to be wrong. You best do this with factual verifiable information. If you harass me, I will do all I can to have you removed from Allstocks. I will not tolerate any of you harassing me.
Purl Gurl
I still don't know why this is pump and dump, and do not hold overnight. They are doing everything right. How can you deny those financials, and contracts with Emaar?
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
"How can you deny those financials...."
I have not denied those financials. You are practicing deceit. I will warn you once to counter my opinion with facts and good logic.
If you are to quote me, do so truthfully. If not, I will work at having you removed from Allstocks. I will not tolerate deceit.
You will treat my opinions with respect and you will not twist my words into deceit.
Treat me with respect, I will more than treat you with respect. I welcome debate which is factual and truthful.
Purl Gurl
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
No, you are practicing deceit. At no time did I write what you claim. This is very obvious to readers by simply reading my article.
I do not need to calm down, you need to work on being truthful.
Your article is a harassment article. I will not tolerate being harassed.
For the lazy who will not move back to read my prior article,
"However, there are some positives. Recently released financials are very impressive. I am waiting for audited financials to be sure what is released is true and accurate."
"Again, recent financials released are excellent."
Very clear I do not deny those financials, just as it is very clear Stocktrader22 is practicing deceit and very clear Stocktrader22 is engaging in deliberate harassment which is not welcomed and will not be tolerated by me.
Purl Gurl
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by Purl Gurl: No, you are practicing deceit. At no time did I write what you claim. This is very obvious to readers by simply reading my article.
I do not need to calm down, you need to work on being truthful.
Your article is a harassment article. I will not tolerate being harassed.
Purl Gurl
Who are you to think you can talk to me like that. You are harrasing me, by making outrageous claims, saying that I am practicing deceit. You obviously do doubt the financials, considering you are calling this a pump and dump company, and with the financials if you believed in them, you would realize that this should be trading more than .10
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
Stocktrader22, Purl did say .095 to .13 flip it, But with audited financials .18 to .25. I think if this plays out with all PRs true we see even higher,JMO
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Moderators, thank you for removing that harassment article. One of my articles now makes less than good sense, but this is ok. I would rather look the fool AND have a message sent Allstocks will not tolerate harassment articles.
Readers now understand my rant, which seems to be lacking sense. A harassment article to which I responding in a firm but fair manner, that harassment article has been removed for the good of all readers.
Again, harassment will not be tolerated here at Allstocks. You are invited to debate, to disagree, to argue your point. You are not invited to harass participants on a personal level. Doing so causes harm to all.
Moderators, again thank you for your help.
Purl Gurl
Posted by YellowSubmarine on :
I'm really surprised that you guys care what some Day-Flippers, or 'gets-something-right once-in-a-blue-moon' "told ya so"-poster thinks about a company with this kind of outstanding potential..!!!
If it was a 'pump & dump' as claimed by the meddling and uninvolved, there would be a ridiculous flood of eMail Splatters and Fax Blasts all over the bloody WWW touting the $25MM ('non-toxic - not a death-spiral CD') Private Placement. For crying out loud, if a typical whizbang P&D like VWKM got $250K from the sleazers at 'CornBall (Cornell) Crapital', every el Pumpo stocksputter outfit and stanky eMail Newsletter churner in the business would be all over it - like flies on a fresh Kansas cowpie..!!!
The Sulja's are looking to move this stock to the NAZ or AMEX with no r/s at the earliest possible time, per their recent PR. That takes at least $2+ PPS, plus revenues, etc., etc. Do you ever ask yourself WHY these "..pseudo-Know-it-Alls..", that have never built anything (..except a sandwich or a chocolate layer cake..), are wanting you "..flip out.." for chump change..!?!
SLJB is a 'Collect & Hold' in my book. .. The company is connected, it's doing business in the right places at the right time, it's not screwing with two-bit sleazers like CornBall Crapital or other small-company-wrecking rip-off artists, it's getting listed on the Dubai Exchange, it hasn't hired any 'WWW-based PR Touts' to try and get its message out, and the old LFWK short-n'-meddler's bash-effort in collusion with Pinksheets.com hasn't even slowed them down..!!!
Somewhere along the line, one just has to "..get a grip..", I suppose. Dennis Ammerman is gone, LFWK doesn't exist anymore, SLJB is poised for rapid expansion with deep-pocketed private support, and the old LFWK Shorts and Naked Shorts are scared absolutely poopless..!!! And, "..Oh My Gawd..", how it shows......
OBTW: Steve Sulja is out to "..prosecute.." the SOB who did that last unauthorized Faux SLJB Fax Blast. That should be a "..heads-up.." for the meddlers. But, with a little luck they won't heed it, and they'll end up sharing a cell in upstate New York with the likes of 'AnthoPuke' Elgindy; aka: Anthony(a)Pukerific over on SI..!!!
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Posted by YellowSubmarine on :
Gee. I wonder if any of the projects listed below need building supplies, construction management services or professional maintenance support..?!?
EMAAR Properties - About the Company
Emaar Properties is a Public Joint Stock Company listed on the Dubai Financial Market. With an asset base of US$ 7.7 billion (including land) Emaar has witnessed tremendous growth since its inception in 1997. In 2003 Emaar reported net profits of AED 676 million (US $ 184 million), a 31 percent increase on the previous year. Total sales revenue was AED 3.72 billion (US $ 1.01 billion) – up 179 percent on 2002. Currently, it has ten major real estate projects under various stages of development. These developments include Dubai Marina, Arabian Ranches (including Gazelle), Emirates Hills, The Meadows, The Springs, The Lakes (including Hattan Homes), The Greens and Emaar Towers in downtown Dubai. The company also owns and manages the Gold and Diamond Park and has begun construction of Burj Dubai - the tallest skyscraper and largest shopping center in the world. While Emaar continues to actively pursue expansion in its core business of innovative, high quality real estate development it has diversified into related business lines to further build value for its over 40,000 shareholders. In line with this corporate belief, Emaar also owns and manages four subsidiaries: Dubai Bank, Amlak Finance, Emrill Services, and Sahm Technologies. Emaar has grown to an international class organization and is now moving into world markets
1. Al Fattan Marine Towers Al Fattan Tower 2, Al Fattan Tower 1. 2. Al Mejara Towers Al Mejara Tower A, Al Mejara Tower B, Al Mejara Tower C, Al Mejara Tower D, Al Mejara Tower E. 3. Al Sahab Towers Al Sahab Tower 1, Al Sahab Tower 2. 4. Burj Dubai Business Hub Burj Dubai Business Hub Building 1, Burj Dubai Business Hub Building 2, Burj Dubai Business Hub Building 3, Burj Dubai Business Hub Building 4, Burj Dubai Business Hub Building 5, Burj Dubai Business Hub Building 6. 5. Burj Views Burj Views Tower 1, Burj Views Tower 2, Burj Views Tower 3. 6. DEC Towers DEC Tower 1, DEC Tower 2. 7. Dreams Dreams 1, Dreams 2. 8. Emaar Towers Emaar Tower 1, Emaar Tower 2. 9. Fairways Clubside Residence Fairways Clubside Residence 1, Fairways Clubside Residence 2, Fairways Clubside Residence 3. 10. Golf Towers Golf Tower 1, Golf Tower 2. 11. Habtoor Grand Hotel Habtoor Grand Hotel Tower 1, Habtoor Grand Hotel Tower 2. 12. Jumeirah Beach Residence JBR Area A Tower A01, JBR Area A Tower A02, JBR Area A Tower A03.1, JBR Area A Tower A03.2, JBR Area A Tower A04, JBR Area B Tower B01, JBR Area B Tower B02, JBR Area B Tower B03 T01, JBR Area B Tower B03 T02, JBR Area B Tower B04 T01, JBR Area B Tower B04 T02, JBR Area B Tower B05 T01, JBR Area B Tower B05 T02, JBR Area B Tower B06 T01, JBR Area B Tower B06 T02, JBR Area B Tower B07 T01, JBR Area B Tower B07 T02, JBR Area B Tower B07 T03, JBR Area C Tower C01 T03, JBR Area C Tower C02 T01, JBR Area C Tower C02 T02, JBR Area C Tower C03, JBR Area C Tower C06 T01.1, JBR Area C Tower C06 T03, JBR Area C Tower C06 T06, JBR Area C Tower C06 TO1.2, JBR Area C Tower C07, JBR Area C Tower C08, JBR Area C Tower C09 T01, JBR Area C Tower C09 T02, JBR Area C Tower C09 T03, JBR Area D Tower D01 T01, JBR Area D Tower D01 T02, JBR Area D Tower D01 T03, JBR Area D Tower D02 T01, JBR Area D Tower D02 T02. 13. Marina 1 Al Mass Tower, Anbar Tower, Fairooz Tower, Mesk Tower, Murjan Tower, Yass Tower. 14. Marina Quays Marina Quays 2, Marina Quays 3, Marina Quays West. 15. Marina Scape Avant Tower, Oceanic Tower. 16. Marina View Towers Marina View Tower 1, Marina View Tower 2. 17. Park Island Blakely Tower, Bonaire Tower, Fairfield Tower, Sanibel Tower. 18. South Ridge South Ridge 1, South Ridge 2, South Ridge 3, South Ridge 4, South Ridge 5, South Ridge 6. 19. The Jewels The Jewels Tower 1, The Jewels Tower 2. 20. The Lofts The Lofts 1, The Lofts 2, The Lofts 3. 21. The Marina Promenade The Marina Promenade 1, The Marina Promenade 2, The Marina Promenade 3, The Marina Promenade 4, The Marina Promenade 5, The Marina Promenade 6. 22. The Residences The Residences Stage 3 Tower 1, The Residences Stage 3 Tower 10, The Residences Stage 3 Tower 11, The Residences Stage 3 Tower 12, The Residences Stage 3 Tower 2, The Residences Stage 3 Tower 3, The Residences Stage 3 Tower 4, The Residences Stage 3 Tower 5, The Residences Stage 3 Tower 6, The Residences Stage 3 Tower 7, The Residences Stage 3 Tower 8, The Residences Stage 3 Tower 9, The Residences Tower E1, The Residences Tower E2, The Residences Tower E3, The Residences Tower W1, The Residences Tower W2, The Residences Tower W3. 23. The Waves The Waves 1, The Waves 2.
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Posted by YellowSubmarine on :
I don't think I'd mind just having just the paint, wallpaper, floor coverings, bath tile cleaner, and pest control products orders from that little bitty collection of real estate.
But, maybe it's all just a "..scam..". "..Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...................
:-)
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Posted by Purl Gurl on :
You have my agreement, IMAKEMONEY.
I do see a lot of potential with this company.
Being truthful, a month or so back, I expressed serious doubts about all of this. I honestly did not believe this merger and end result would prove to be profitable.
At the time, based on then known information, my opinion was correct.
However, this recent release of unaudited financials has changed my opinion, for the better. Those financials are very impressive.
I accept those financials on face value but I am a very conservative and a cautious trader. I want to see _audited_ financials before dumping a lot of money into this company.
My words do not indicate I do not trust this company, do not indicate fraud is taking place.
My words do indicate I am being cautious because all of you, like me, know financials can be less than accurate with any company; Enron.
Our stock markets, in today's world, are driven by deceit and fraud. This we know. Being cautious is simply mandatory if you are to survive these crooked markets.
I am not willing to make any projections on this company because I cannot explain why volume is so extremely high. Yes, a lot of flipping but not enough to explain such extreme volume. I will not go into details but price and volume are not consistent with high levels of flipping.
My thoughts are, again, dilution or naked shorting. This high volume must be one or both of those. This is a very clear warning signal, thus my opinion to be cautious until the dust settles.
I would like to write, "Buy and hold" but I am not comfortable with placing reader's money at risk. Maybe there is no risk. Nonetheless, I will not place readers at risk. Doing so is wrongful.
My current opinion, which changes as noted, is readers should flip but not hold, until a very clear and trustworthy picture develops.
Upon support of those financials through an audited release, I do expect share price to move upward but _only_ when volume falls to more reasonable and believable levels. Current high volume will keep prices down and level; no potential for upward movement, not yet.
Without potential, readers should not dump their money into this one. Silly to dump your money when there is no potential; you only place your money at risk for no profit.
This potential will change in the near future. Maybe good potential will come about or maybe this stock will crash. Until readers can make a trustworthy determination of potential, my opinion is to keep your money out, this is, flip if you want but do not buy and hold.
Be sure I am keeping a close eye on this and am prepared to jump in with a lot of money once this stock settles down and becomes predictable through fundamentals and charts.
Purl Gurl
Posted by YellowSubmarine on :
Here's some interesting information about Dubai, and the potential for for SLJB business there..:
Wow...Yellow...you're doing great DD...keep it up!
Posted by weekendwarrior1 on :
purl i appreciate the info, and this is the one that im going to hold for a while and let things pan out...but i did read what you wrote, and i to think this stock has a TON of upside, but things need to pan out...and the company needs to cont. to be good on there word..if so then this could be a penny that becomes a diamond..but its all in the hands of the company...so far they have been addiment abt keeping us investors up to date..and i was impresses with the fast reaction to the fax blast, I dont think there is any dulition going on...now this is IMO...no hard core facts, just my opintion..... I BELIEVE that the company is being honest...Sulja bros. is a company that has been around for a long time..and they are putting some big time names to be attached to there name, Wessel, Red Sea Group, Emmar, etc, I dont see them putting there name on the line just to have there stock shoot up a few pennies....and I see them getting the audited fins out soon, and hopefully that will attracted a new batch of inverstors, and not flippers...nothing against flippers, if i have the guts to sell them buy back in and not be worried abt this once taking off big time then i would..ive paper flipped just to see how i would of done, and ive could of almost trippled my initial investment...but oh well...im new and learning...so i appreciate the info and i hope that all the investors of SLJB make a ton of wealth from this potential dimaond in the rough...!
Posted by YellowSubmarine on :
It's amazing how some people's post sound just like a re-run of "..Hogan's Heroes..", where Sgt. Schultz is furvently sputtering "..I know naw-theeeeeng..." as a transfer to the Russian Front draws near /or the world is passing him by..!!!
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Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Weekendwarrior, I agree with all you write. All you write is reasonable, logical and is supported by known documentation.
"I dont think there is any dulition going on..."
I have some issues here. I am not sure what type of dilution is happening. Not even sure dilution is taking place but lean towards dilution.
My habit is to work at developing an explanation for stock behavior and for all things about a company. I have a need for deep understanding.
With average per day volume being twenty-million and last Friday's volume being thirty-one-million, I cannot contribute all of this to flipping and to simply sales from the company.
Volume is extremely high and prices are very stable, maybe down trending a bit. This is a classic sign of dilution through some mechanism; brokers unloading, lenders unloading, company selling shares, naked shorting or other methods.
This is about my only concern, this high volume.
I accept financials on face value, agree this company is making good contacts, business does seem brisk, growth is verified in the region. Almost all of the positives are there, save for this disturbing extreme volume and a lack of prices running upward.
Volume, flat prices, point to dilution.
Based on what is known, based on financials, share prices should be much higher, but are not. Something is not quite right. This leads me to my caution to readers to not invest their money too soon. Might be a mistake, this one might skyrocket Monday. Nonetheless, so far, stock trading behavior is not in keeping with this company's current financial status; prices should be higher and moving up.
Not being able to adequately explain a select behavior leads me, personally, to be cautious.
Again, I agree this company appears to be in excellent condition and appears to be primed for very good growth.
Readers are cautioned I could be dead wrong. This stock just might skyrocket without warning. I tend to doubt this but readers should not allow my opinions to be your deciding factor. This one is a real oddity. Just be careful.
Purl Gurl
Posted by weekendwarrior1 on :
very well stated prul girl...i value your opinion...unfortunantly ( since i sold NDOL too soon) u were dead on , with the NDOL Fiasko...but i cant complain that was a great stock for the time and i made money...i could of made more but sold on that aweful shake..but none the less, once again i value you input and experence....and abt it skyrocketing, that is why im not wanting to try to flip it...and be left behind or tring to chase it...i just have a gut feeling abt this stock, and im willing to ride it out....but thats what the market is all abt, u either make money or lose it...and i hope to make some....GLTA .!
[ August 06, 2006, 19:11: Message edited by: weekendwarrior1 ]
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
"...im not wanting to try to flip it...and be left behind or tring to chase it."
This is why clicking the button to buy or to sell, takes a real act of courage. Of all those virtual buttons available to us, that one is most scary of all; it is money.
When we arrive at the point of making a buy or a sell, our fear is a message, "I really do not know."
That is the true bottom line, true reality. We perform our research, we think carefully and, in the end, we admit silently in our minds we are very unsure of our decisions just before clicking that virtual button.
Our fear is good reflection on how we want to be and work at being careful. We know once our money flies down the electronic pipeline, our money might not come back, or that slot machine might start clanging coin after coin into our jackpot pan.
This fear we have is also a truth teller. Many will visit discussion boards and proclaim a certain guarantee of profits. Reminds me of your NDOL, "Guaranteed $2.17 per share!" Sure did not happen. This fear reminds us nothing is guaranteed in the stock markets and reminds us those who guarantee profits to readers, are liars.
There are no guarantees, not ever.
Should readers think of the button fear while reading articles, readers will be careful to not be fooled into scam stocks. When readers truly believe they will earn profits, this is a guarantee readers will lose money.
Seasoned traders determine when to buy, when to sell, based on odds. "What are my odds of making a profit?" or "What are my odds of a loss?"
Research, good reasoning, sound thinking and an absence of emotion, are the tools to discovery of what are those odds.
Keep fear in your mind, you will do better.
Purl Gurl
Posted by T e x on :
Post of the Month...
fear v courage...
bravado v killer instinct...
thick face, black heart Posted by cassity on :
Purl, thank you for all the information. I've been away all weekend and just had a chance to catch up. I like the way you approach all pinks with caution. People do not need to get their panties in a bunch, just because you say not to hold this for a long time(right now). Your cautious with all pinks from what I have learned from you, and that's never stupid. I'm very excited about this company and the potential it holds. Seems they are in with some very large companies. There is a guy on IHUB who's screen name is Allinone. I'm not sure if you have read his posts, but if you have I would like to know what you think of him. If the company is set on listing on the DIFX, do you think it would be wise for them to dilute. I have got the feeling from the companies press releases that they are not satisfied with staying a pinky, and it seems like it would be a very bad idea to dilute, if they are trying to build shareholder value. It is very difficult to make long term predictions without seeing ALL the information the company has, or their overall plans. It will be very interesting to see how this all plays out. Thanks again. -Cassity
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Killer Instinct, yes, yours is an interesting comment, my dear Tex.
When a coyote hunts a kill, he does so with cunning, craft and good thinking. A coyote does not simply give chase. No, he lies in wait, he moves up a bit at time, he stays hunkered down, he pays attention to all around him while constantly assessing what might change requiring him to change.
A coyote has the killer instinct. Sometimes coyote fails, does not eat, becomes hungry for days. This is why coyotes are skinny. He never gives up, though, and never allows his hunger to distract him. He learns from his mistakes, adapts, changes, constantly employs new methods. In time, he makes his kill and feeds.
After feeding, coyote does not become torpid, he does not sleep. Coyote sniffs the wind, picks up a scent and moves on in hunt of the next kill.
A coyote also never stands still, not for more than a few moments lest he become prey.
Coyote is both a killer and a ghost.
This is what stock markets are all about; either be a killer or be killed. This is no place for nice-nice nor Miss Manners.
This is coyote country.
Purl Gurl - medicine animal is coyote
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
"Purl, thank you for all the information."
My pleasure, Cassity. I am sorry I could not reply to you sooner. I wanted to, but could not.
This is what discussion should be all about; our sharing opinions so all can benefit. Does not matter if we agree nor disagree. All that matters is we keep a flow of information for all to read.
Purl Gurl
Posted by cassity on :
Purl I have another question. With most stocks you would look at the gains that they have already made(such as LFWK %4000), and probably think that buying them now is a bad idea. Once a company merges with another, wouldn't every thing change? When people read the chart on SLJB are they taking the info. from LFWK pre merger and post merger and combinding them? Doesn't seem that it would make sense. A totally different company has been formed. LFWK was a useless company, but according to the finacials of SLJB, they have a lot of potential. What are your thoughts about the reason for the merger? Do you think Sulja is just using LFWK for their listing? What are your thoughts on the future for this company? Do you think they have a lot more to offer than they have shown so far? Thanks
Posted by T e x on :
yup...
a fella could go broke
trying to trap coyotes...
One-liner from my uncle...selling pelts, trapped from the deer place...
Uncle: You pay anything for skunk?
Pelt-buyer: oh, well...if they're not shot up? Ya, I'll give a dollar.
Uncle: A dollar?
Hell, I've give *you* a dollar to take em outta my traps...
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Cassity writes,
"Purl I have another question. With most stocks you would look at the gains that they have already made(such as LFWK %4000), and probably think that buying them now is a bad idea."
This is correct Cassity. As a general rule, not a strict rule, if a stock runs up ten percent or more, probably should not buy. Of course, this falls apart with low value pinks. You are right, however, once a good run, this a seller's market, not a buyer's market.
Cassity writes,
"Once a company merges with another, wouldn't every thing change? When people read the chart on SLJB are they taking the info. from LFWK pre merger and post merger and combinding them? Doesn't seem that it would make sense. A totally different company has been formed. LFWK was a useless company, but according to the finacials of SLJB, they have a lot of potential."
Yes, Cassity, everything changes and remains the same. Quite often, a merger is effected so a foreign company or a privately held company can have its stock traded on the American markets.
More often, simply a company in need of an empty shell which is already registered with the SEC; empty shells are cheap and save fee charges.
My initial doubts about this deal is what you mention. Loftwerks is a useless company, from a fundamentals point of view. Just not much there to attract traders and their money. This led to my early skepticism, until the recent financials were released presenting a new aspect.
On charts, Cassity, we are simply out of luck. All things which applied to Loftwerks, no longer apply; charts for Loftwerks are now useless. With this merger, new charts are being developed but with this being so recent, new charts are of no use either.
Not entirely true. Day traders can use thirty minute charts or ninety minute charts for SLJB but this only helps with intense daily flipping.
Most of us, though, no help. We have to wait at least three months before charts will begin to show any patterns of use to us.
Cassity writes,
"What are your thoughts about the reason for the merger? Do you think Sulja is just using LFWK for their listing?"
Precisely. You have this perfect.
Cassity writes,
"What are your thoughts on the future for this company? Do you think they have a lot more to offer than they have shown so far?"
My thoughts are very positive. I see a company which is doing very well and will expand. My opinion is construction in oil rich Mideast countries will continue for years to come.
I think SLJB has both feet in the door and will do very well; they have this market sewn up.
Contrasting this, Cassity, and there is always something to cause worry, we are dealing with a company out of the Mideast, a company about which we actually know very little. Being a new listing, being a shell merger, there simply is not much information with which we can work.
Reality is we are at the mercy of the company. All we have is what the company presents in pr news. That is it, nothing else.
I am hesitant to mention this because readers will certainly take this wrong. We cannot trust the company because it is a foreign company. Please readers, no arguments on American companies versus foreign companies; all are crooks in my book.
Skipping over cultural differences and no fear of prosecution, we truly know nothing about the management team. Might be great guys, might be out to cut our throats. None know.
Perhaps unfair, consider what happened with NDOL. Those Russians made a lot of wild promises, fooled a lot of gullible people, made millions and left behind a lot of angry bag holders; a scam.
Is this what is happening with SLJB? None know.
Any who claim to know, are either ignorant or are lying. None know what is truly real.
To close, I have positive feelings about this company, looks good. However this volume issue I write about is a concern. Again, something is just not right about this.
Major concern is we do not know if this company is being completely honest with us. There is no way to know and we can only take a chance on this. This is a major concern.
Personally, I am ready to throw a lot of money at this one but I will wait a few days, wait a week, maybe more. My personal signal to buy will be volume dropping off with prices remaining stable or better, prices beginning to up trend. I would rather miss out on a profit chance than to simply lose a big chunk of my money. You can makes profits anytime. You cannot recover your lost money; gone for good.
Protect your capital first, make profits second.
Purl Gurl
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
"Uncle: You pay anything for skunk?"
Tex, you are a skunk.
Readers probably do not know about all the animals living with us, in our home. Skunks are included. Those skunks set the rules.
My brother-in-law was sprayed by one of our skunks. I warned him to make a lot of noise when he walks up so the animals will know he is coming. Pfftt... did not listen. He surprises a skunk turning a corner, you know what happened.
What he complained about the most is having to throw away his two-hundred dollar designer tennis shoes. I suggested he buy fifteen dollar shoes at K-Mart like we do. Boy, was he pissed.
What is wrong with cheap shoes? Look just like the expensive ones.
Purl Gurl
Posted by T e x on :
skunks...lol--remind me to tell you about the one who wanted my canned beef stew...
back to the thread:
tomorrow should provide critical data
Posted by cassity on :
Purl writes,"However this volume issue I write about is a concern. Again, something is just not right about this".
Do you think that people selling, that were involved very early could be a good reason? Also, if that was the case wouldn't that be a good sign that although millions of shares are being sold, a lot of new money is countering the selling? Do you believe that MM manipulation has anything to do with this stock not rising in price? A lot of people claim this and from watching it, seems that it is a very good explaination. The volume was very good on Friday, but it seemed like they would just not allow it to move. This has been my only concern with this stock and I believe the next several days/weeks will determine what the cause may be. I have read that with the DIFX listing they can not issue more shares, can you elaborate any information you may have on this subject? Seems like every stock I buy, has a million senerios to it. Although, this is good because it makes me learn at a increased rate. Thanks for your time and no reason for the late reply is needed, I understand you have more important things to do than read chat boards all day. Thanks again, see ya in the mornin! -Cassity
Posted by 10of13 on :
FWIW, When I played this stock a few months ago...I saw the volume was rather high for the amount of supposed share structure...my concern was posted on the under .10 board in the old LFWK thread...has anyone contacted the TA to confirm what the share structure is as of late?
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: FWIW, When I played this stock a few months ago...I saw the volume was rather high for the amount of supposed share structure...my concern was posted on the under .10 board in the old LFWK thread...has anyone contacted the TA to confirm what the share structure is as of late?
10 of Months Back, What's your ratio, or whatever? ie, how do you judge the volume vs share structure?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Tex...IMO when a stock is "in the middle of a run"...it is obviously harder for me to judge and this one has really been in the middle of a run or uptrend, so to speak, for a little over a week, nearly 2...however when I watched the L2's last time I was playing it...there seemed nearly triple the float+...and no real prise movement...(i'd have to check back on the dates to be more accurate) There appeared to be what I would consider mirror trades...let's say a buy of 70011 shares and then followed by a sell for 35005 and 35006 odd things of that nature..almost making it appear that there were trades and increase the volume...but I was skeptical that they were actual trades...
But usually I try to look at the "average" over all volume of a stock...what seems to be "normal" for it and go from there...an actual ratio for volume/share structure...not sure I have one...since so many stocks have different interests at different times...even though the share structures can be similar...the different stocks would have different volumes...
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Cassity writes,
"Do you think that people selling, that were involved very early could be a good reason? Also, if that was the case wouldn't that be a good sign that although millions of shares are being sold, a lot of new money is countering the selling?"
Volume is always a wide mix of activities. It is impossible for any to break out categories of trading. This mix can include, profit taking, flipping, lender dilution, company dilution, insider selling, block transfers, shorting, naked shorting and, of course, common buying like we do. There are other types of trading but those are the most common.
Again, nobody can sort out what type of trading is taking place. We can assume a mix of trading.
General rule is dilution lowers prices, new buyers raises prices. Currently SLJP is down trending suggesting dilution.
Profit taking will also lower prices but only for a short period of time, usually no more than two days, perhaps three days. Stocks with a low outstanding share count can be more effected by profit taking. However, this still only lasts for a few days.
Reason profit taking does not last long is common traders simply do not have the cash to buy a lot of shares for later profit taking.
Be careful. I am writing of cash in the hands of ordinary traders, like us. This is not all that related to outstanding shares. A cheap pink, each trader may own a million shares. An expensive stock, each trader may only own five-thousand shares. When profit taking is going on, this is relative to the outstanding share count. A pink, you might dump a million shares but then so does everyone else. The net effect is not much, just high volume. Same principle for expensive stocks.
Only time profit taking has a major impact on share price is when EVERYONE is dumping, like a panic sell off, or pump and dump selling. This is not the case for SLJB stock.
With volume ranging from twenty-million to thirty-million per day, this simply cannot be ordinary traders engaging in profit taking. Yes, some profit taking is in the mix, but this is not a major factor with such high volume.
On new money countering, again, there is a very limited amount of money in ordinary trader's hands. There is not enough free cash out there to support current high volume for this to be majority ordinary trader buying.
All signals point to dilution. Make a note dilution can be effected through many means, not just a company dumping new shares. Lenders can dump, shorting, naked shorting, on and on.
Bottom line, it is impossible to "break out" data showing what types of trading take place. We can only make educated guesses based on what "signals" are present. High volume and slow down trending, dilution.
Cassity writes,
"Do you believe that MM manipulation has anything to do with this stock not rising in price? A lot of people claim this and from watching it, seems that it is a very good explaination."
Absolutely not. Market Makers do not profit this way. Commissions and front running are tools used by Market Makers to profit. If Market Makers are manipulating, we would see swings of at least five cents per share, up or down, over a range of three to seven days. Market Makers will swing prices at least twenty percent for a stock of this current per share price. Not happening.
"I have read that with the DIFX listing they can not issue more shares, can you elaborate any information you may have on this subject?"
Completely bogus rumor initiated by either the very ignorant or the criminal element. Most likely, this comes out of I-Hub where traders are known to be beginner amateurs and crooks.
There are seventy, eighty pages there. If you can find this rule of fixed share count buried in there somewhere, let me know. I cannot find any rule limiting share count. I have read those pages twice to be sure. I cannot find this rule.
Maybe I missed this rule, but I think not.
Purl Gurl
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Continues to baffle me why readers are so fearful of me. Readers can see Cassity walks away from every encounter with all his body parts still intact, and a bit smarter.
I believe readers are fearful of reading the truth, rather than fearful of me.
Purl Gurl
Posted by glassman on :
maybe it's the red mist
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Ha! Ha! Only time I splatter a reader's blood is when that reader deliberately insults me.
This is an insult to all readers. None benefit from those jerks who come here only to spread discontent and hatred.
Well, one other time I rip heads off. This is when a person simply lies to readers. Crooks are not welcomed by any, either.
Purl Gurl
Posted by cassity on :
I think readers have a hard time hearing anything that is negative towards their stock. I'm trying to look at all possibilties. I like this stock. I truely think it will be very valuable in the near future. People want things to go to a dollar in one day and that isn't always the way it works out. It will be interesting to see how the company handles business over the next several weeks. I never listen to anyone who says they are LONG in a stock, because they never really are. They are just in long enough for a little run. I think this stock will be worth well more than a dollar, but it may take a little time. It all depends on the company and what news they have to attract investers. Thanks Purl for taking your time to answer my ?'s. -Cassity
Posted by cassity on :
Glassman, I know you don't really like to post your picks, but you have mentioned several times that you find R/M's interesting. I would love to hear your thoughts as well on SLJB. Thanks
Posted by glassman on :
nope. sorry... i am currently watching BPT for the bottom.... to buy for a young person... a very young person
look at the yield...
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
Cassity.. if holding a stock doesnt make you feel comfortable.. then go ahead sell it and move on.. thats the best thing you can do to yourself. I have LFWK I had bought at 0.025-0.035 range, long time ago. at that time, "many" used to come to the thread, bash LFWK, and move on. every time a PR is released, "experts" used to flock and warn us of pump and dump scenario, and then get back to pump their holdings.. you are right that "hard time hearing anything that is negative towards their stock".. I defended LFWK then and I shall defend it now. Heck, I unloaded a bit at 0.15 and reloaded again at 0.09. well, my wait has eventually paid off and I beleive this company has lot more potential, than being a pure P&D. None of their PR's till date have been simple pumps without any basis. and do your own DD.. sometimes it helps rather than purely relying on "expert" opinions..
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
I write,
"On new money countering, again, there is a very limited amount of money in ordinary trader's hands. There is not enough free cash out there to support current high volume for this to be majority ordinary trader buying."
I might enjoy writing a book on Population Geography, but this would bore readers. Most readers rather enjoy my naughty behavior and nude pictures.
Knowledge of Population Geography is critical to understanding the flow of money through the stocks markets, effected by ordinary traders, which is us.
Breaking down our population by financial abilities will lead readers to understanding where the money is located and how much money is available.
Been more years than I will admit since my post-graduate classes and research in this subject of Geography. However, I can provide some general guidelines on money flow effected by ordinary Americans related to stocks.
Let's assume our American population is an even three-hundred-million.
About sixty percent of our population will be children. This is, persons under the age of twenty. These people have no money for trading and most are not allowed to trade. Our trading population is now one-hundred-eighty-million.
Assuming a fifty-fifty split on gender, with a majority being married couples with only one partner trading, cut that last figure in half.
Now we have ninety-million traders out there.
Roughly one-fourth (likely a lot more) live in poverty conditions, no money. Now we have about sixty-eight-million viable traders.
Looking at the elderly, most are successful and off on vacation, or sadly living on fixed incomes. I will deduct some for the elderly who do not trade, leaving fifty-million viable traders.
Of that group, we now have the young and the middle aged. How many are in a position of being effective traders? Nobody knows. We do know the young have not much money and the middle aged Baby Boom generation is having a hard go of it, financially, thanks to Bush.
Guessing is only left. I would guess the number of viable traders left, thirty-million in numbers.
Break out how many trade only high cost value stocks, how many trade upper end penny stocks and how many trade pink sheets. This greatly reduces the number of viable traders for each category of stocks.
For low end pennies and pinks, there really is not that many traders out there. I would estimate ninety percent of those who begin trading stocks like we do, lose all their money and vanish.
Bottom line is there are very few traders involved in stocks like SLJB and other stocks we read here on discussion boards. These are only cut-throat highly aggressive traders who do NOT dump all their money into a single stock.
When we look at volume for a stock, when volume is extremely high, we must assume the percentage of ordinary traders to be very low and assume those traders do not represent a majority of cash flow through a stock.
For SLJB, we "should" assume the majority of trades are either between companies, between Market Makers or dilution into the hands of ordinary traders.
We cannot sort out, statistically, what is actually happening. There is a large mix of activities.
However, when volume is very high and prices are down trending, we can safely assume dilution which is being sold into an ever diminishing market, into common traders who slowly drop out of buying as cash is consumed. As the ordinary trader cash flow diminishes, share prices fall to entice the last of the money into the stock.
Yes, there is some corporate type activity taking place, lenders, insiders, Market Makers, whomever. This masks the underlying majority buying, which would be a limited number of ordinary traders whose cash pool is slowly diminishing.
Should you like, you can take this to extreme detail, such as how many are flipping, how is cash being limited through pattern day trading and the three day settlement rule, how many are pumping and dumping, and all the other crap.
However, I am not so anal retentive to worry about such details.
Bottom line is this type of thinking will assist you in making a decision on what is the majority type of trading taking place; follow the money.
High volume, SLOW down trend, this means dilution.
Purl Gurl
[ August 07, 2006, 12:18: Message edited by: Purl Gurl ]
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by ruskin_muskin: Cassity.. if holding a stock doesnt make you feel comfortable.. then go ahead sell it and move on.. thats the best thing you can do to yourself. I have LFWK I had bought at 0.025-0.035 range, long time ago. at that time, "many" used to come to the thread, bash LFWK, and move on. every time a PR is released, "experts" used to flock and warn us of pump and dump scenario, and then get back to pump their holdings.. you are right that "hard time hearing anything that is negative towards their stock".. I defended LFWK then and I shall defend it now. Heck, I unloaded a bit at 0.15 and reloaded again at 0.09. well, my wait has eventually paid off and I beleive this company has lot more potential, than being a pure P&D. None of their PR's till date have been simple pumps without any basis. and do your own DD.. sometimes it helps rather than purely relying on "expert" opinions..
Not nervous at all. In fact there have only been a few stocks I've bought that I feel as comfortable owning as this. I don't buy the pump, or the bashing. I like to hear all sides of the discussion other than just all good or all bad. Purl seems to have a medium mix. I think if the company follows through with what they have stated, you'll see Purls positives begin to outway the negetives. I do wonder why this stock is not moving more, because there is a lot of interest and great potential, but I'm a patient man and I'll be here for awhile. GLTY
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Cassity writes,
"I think readers have a hard time hearing anything that is negative towards their stock."
Precisely, very exact. This is why a majority of traders end up losing their money then leave the markets. Almost all beginner traders come here to the markets with a firm belief, "I am going to get rich quick!"
Only people who are becoming rich are seasoned traders like us who relieve those gullible gits of their money.
Purl Gurl
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
hey now.
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: [QUOTE]Originally posted by ruskin_muskin: [qb] I do wonder why this stock is not moving more, because there is a lot of interest and great potential, but I'm a patient man and I'll be here for awhile. GLTY
cassity, the stock is not moving because of charts.. charts are week.. its gotta go down a little bit more before it actually starts going back up again.. wait for RSI to stabilize a little bit..
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Hey now Hey now What's the matter with you? Girls just wanna have fun now. - come on Hey now Hey now What's the matter with you? Girls just wanna have fun now.
- Cyndi Lauper
Purl Gurl
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
How about, Money changes everything, Cyndi Lauper.
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Cyndi Lauper. Our likes in fashion are similar, this is, when I do wear clothes, which is not very often.
Purl Gurl
Posted by toad wallstreet on :
Great posts guys and girl, I really learned alot by reading the conversation between yall, alot of to the point info. That is great. I always enjoy to hear your point of view Purl, and I like it even better when the people whom you are conversating with can respond back without the normal bashing,name calling and short-sightedness.
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
Clothes are for suckers.
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
make girl plural toad.. more than one on the thread.. hope people stick to stock discussions rather than starting to post their nonsense again.. sane ideas/discussions always appreciated!!!
Posted by toad wallstreet on :
sorry "girls"
Posted by cassity on :
Can anyone explain why the bid and ask sizes are so small. I've seen 1x1, 1x100 and 100x1. I thought this indicated a need for shares. Please explain. Thanks
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Cassity writes,
"Can anyone explain why the bid and ask sizes are so small. I've seen 1x1, 1x100 and 100x1. I thought this indicated a need for shares."
1 x 1 - one lot of one-hundred shares. 1 x 100 - one lot of ten-thousand shares. 100 x 1 - one-hundred lots of one-hundred shares
There is inconsistency is Level II displays. Shares are traded in "lots" which is simply a customer order.
100 x 1 - one-hundred customers each wanting to trade one-hundred shares.
Usually the last two zeroes of a lot are removed. 1 - 100 10 - 1000 100 - 10,000
Not all Market Makers comply with this notation leading to differences in numbers which confuse.
Purl Gurl
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Serious dilution is basically confirmed by today's share price behavior.
Should this behavior continue for several days, continue through to Friday, my opinion will be the company is heavily dumping shares which is an extremely negative signal.
This is why I am waiting to discover what is going on with this stock.
I am not ready to label this one a pump and dump scam, but today's behavior is a very early warning signal of a scam.
Be sure to note, I am not writing this is a scam but rather writing a "signal" of scam is beginning to appear.
Purl Gurl
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
I am laughing.
Take my article up there about a signal of a scam and post it at I-Hub, an instant uproar will develop, you will be assaulted, the article deleted and possibly you will be banished or receive one of those idiotic "member mark" crap things.
I am simply commenting. You should NOT actually do this; trouble will come about.
Purl Gurl
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
hmm
Posted by weekendwarrior1 on :
i dont think that they are diluting there stock, I dont think this is a reg. pinky ...IMO they have stated too many times in the past and in there PRs that there is not dilution taking place..and from there track record with there PRs they have been on point and very up front with the investors, and if they were to dilute the shares, and its found out, I think they would lose way too many investors...but that is all my opinion...and I hope im right...because if the fact remains that insiders how the entire float and there are many shorted shares out there, this could get very interesting very fast.! once again all IMO...GLTA.!!!
Posted by Relentless. on :
WW, every diluting pinky out there says they aren't diluting.. We have all seen it a million times. QBID stated over and over they were not diluting.. bla bla bla.. oops 16 billion turns into 350 billion.. Trade the chart and stop caring about the company..
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
same dilution or w/e basher's crap would be repeated again and again.. I remember same things said when price went down from 0.025-0.017.. 0.035-0.027.. so on and so forth.. like i told you cassity.. this will be repeated again and again.. do your own DD.. The way I see it, charts were weak.. stock was overbought.. MM's couldnt continue the run.. share prices fell.. IMO by weekend, this would eb 0.1 range again..
Posted by weekendwarrior1 on :
we will see all in due time.
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
"...every diluting pinky out there says they aren't diluting."
There are many mechanisms for dilution, as previously discussed. This dilution may or may not be the company diluting.
By whatever means, dilution is being effected; "someone" is dumping shares and has been since the ticker symbol change.
Purl Gurl
Posted by glassman on :
evrybody playing nice? Posted by weekendwarrior1 on :
purl, if its not the company, (but i am almost certain ppl that claim there long and strong have been selling) but if its not the company, and a small part of long term investors selling, then the remaing would be what?...would it be ppl shorting the stock? and im not being sarcastic, im asking what u think it could be.?
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
10,
sorry I could not respond to the PM directly, since I dont have permission to send personal messages. looks like mods have disabled that facility for me ..
I shall paste part of my reply here. Other "part" cant paste ..
SLJB, I am in it. I have been in it for a while. I bought more today after selling some last week at 0.15 and got back in today at 0.09. I thought we would close around 0.09, but looks like we closed around 0.081. I am glad you took some profits too. charts are gaining strength. and L2's are behaving better now than they were when it was trading around 0.025. IMO, some "big groups" are unloading their shares, profit taking to be precise.. else it moves up or down very fast if you remember how it used to trade earlier. this dilution might actually be good for a stock, since once financials are audited, undoubtedly share price is expected to be around 0.2-0.35 range. short term dilution, if not done by company, is not a big deal, since market typically absorbs shares if the company truly demonstrates potetial. IMO, the company has issued very sincere PR's, about LFWK especially merger and other things. people seem to forget that it was just 2 weeks back that the stock was trading around 0.025-0.03 range. i shall watch it more closely tomorrow to see direction of movement of big blocks, so i could verifyably say more about naked dilution if any. look for green close tomorrow hopefully.
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: evrybody playing nice?
almost ..
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Glassman, everyone is playing nice except me.
weekendwarrior asks about dilutive shares,
weekendwarrior, I will go back and look at Loftwerk, if information is still available, to discover what I can about share structure.
Information on SLJB itself, is next to none.
Again, here are common sources of dilutive shares,
Officers of the former company hold millions of shares which have changed over to the new ticker just like public trader shares. Very common for old company officers to be replaced, no longer officers, and they begin dumping their shares, which are always profitable, so they can walk away from the company; all ties are broken. This would be the Loftwerk people, all or some.
A good example is NDOL. There is a man, Amyot, who holds forty-million shares if I remember right (number might be off) and he dates back three or four empty shells, before finally ending up a very large share holder of NDOL. Many believe he is largely responsible for the dilution of NDOL stock.
There is a need to look at any lending taken on by Loftwerk before the merger. Those loans do not vanish. Many loans are convertable to common shares which is not good. A lender might be converting and dumping to "close out" a loan, much like former officers want to terminate any connections to the new company.
Another source of dilutive shares are "insiders" who are not officers but hold ten percent or more of the common stock. These might be consultants, old shell officers, private placement lenders or one of many other "types" of insiders. One or more of these insiders might be dumping.
A serious challenge is presented because readers most move back through time to find all these connected people. Having to go back five years, ten years, through filings is not uncommon. Our Amyot of NDOL up there, I think he dates back, my memory is not perfect, dates back seven to ten years which is well before NDOL even became a concept much less a company.
Readers can look, can research and develop a good idea where these dilutive shares originate. This affords a notion of when dilution might end, when those oddball shares will run out.
You know someone hired a company to "fax blast" which indicates someone or an investor group out there holds millions and millions of shares.
We can "sorta" pin down these loose shares but it is highly unlikely we can detail out the actual share structure; impossible to find all those share holders out there.
As to SLJB, none know what is its share structure nor how many shares have been dealt out to various peoples, lenders, officers, whomever. With this being a brand new ticker, there is a grace period for filings of beneficial ownership, this is, who owns what and how many shares.
This presents a greater challenge. We might be able to account for every single share of Loftwerk, but we cannot account for existing SLJB shares because there are no filings which disclose this data.
Final analysis is we are "fairly certain" dilution is taking place but we cannot identify where those dilutive shares originate.
Purl Gurl
Posted by weekendwarrior1 on :
awesome info purl...definantly appreciate it...now what do u think a PR with some meaty info abt the recent $25mil fin backing and also info abt the share structure of the company...? im still tring to fig out how they plan on getting the pps up to the NASDAQ uplisting req...we got a long way to go..! thanks in advance.
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
"now what do u think a PR"
Best action this company can take is to immediately begin filing with the SEC.
Seasoned traders, the real money, will want to read SEC filings before dropping any money into this company.
Greatest negative factor is none know much about this company. This creates doubts and mistrust. Toss in dilution and you have a mix which will cause share prices to continue falling.
I will refer back to NDOL. A similar pattern is developing. NDOL turned out to be a scam. SLJB, none know. We have no choice but to wait to discover if this is a scam or not.
A positive difference between SLJB and NDOL is SLJB is not making really wild claims as did NDOL.
Written before, readers and traders are at the mercy of the company. Only the company can inform the public and we still must decide, based on released information, if the company can be trusted.
Early financials look really good but we do not know what else is going on.
Purl Gurl
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
I know, I know, all I write still leaves readers in a pickle; what to decide?
Right now, today, this week, maybe this month, best decision might actually be a flip of a coin.
Odds are fifty-fifty on this one.
Readers can greatly reduce their risks, in fact, reduce their risks to zero by simply not buying then waiting for more information.
Deal is this. You can buy now and risk losing a lot of your money. Alternative is to wait and buy later after a trustworthy up trend develops. Yes, prices will go up before you buy meaning you will not profit as much.
Which is better? Loss of money or smaller profits?
Purl Gurl
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
EDIT Posted by cassity on :
Hey Purl, in the financials did you notice how the sells to UAE have been increasing very rapidly over the past year? I'm very confident that the companies audited financials will be almost identical, to those posted on their website. Thanks for your info above. Goodnight
Posted by weekendwarrior1 on :
awesome purl girl...thanks for helping a newbie like myself and thanks for the informative answers and not just specualtion.!
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
"I'm very confident that the companies audited financials will be almost identical, to those posted on their website."
I agree. I do not agree because I trust this company, I agree because the company is now committed to supporting those unaudited numbers released through news. Should audited reports not match up with the news reports, this will be a major mistake by the company.
This company has little choice but to be sure their unaudited and audited match up, closely.
An audited report should contain a lot more details which will disclose money flow, loans, and such. If there is something "hinky" a reputable auditor will note this.
Purl Gurl
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
"...informative answers and not just specualtion...."
This is what Allstocks is all about. Here we work at informative discussions based upon factual information, good thinking and most of all, truth.
Historically, Allstocks earns the most profits for readers, least those who pay attention to the old timers here. Clearly, we old timers are not always right, but we are right more than wrong. I would guess our success rate at making profits, about eighty percent.
Readers must remember, none of us, which includes you, the reader, are always right. We make mistakes on a regular basis.
Through intelligent discussion by all, we reduce the odds of being wrong. Each person who joins in discussion, is as valuable as anyone. Newbie or old timer, all are very valuable contributors.
Sometimes we have problems here when scamsters or simply hateful people show up. Allstocks is currently taking very aggressive actions against those who deliberately cause problems. We work at keeping this an open and honest board.
We also work at having a lot of fun! By our occasionally tossing in a bit of off topic humor, wit, wisdom, maybe some pictures, whatever, we add a personal touch, a friendly touch to Allstocks; work hard, play hard.
Trading stocks is highly stressful. This stress really takes a toll on all of us. It is very important to keep a discussion board not only informative but enjoyable as well.
A little smile, a bit of laughter, really helps relieve this stress we suffer through worry, and keeps me from becoming cranky which you certainly do not want to happen.
Purl Gurl
Posted by weekendwarrior1 on :
awesome once again...and ive only been trading since feb. and im up quite a bit of money, and have learned a lot of stuff, and i owe most of it to allstocks.com...so im very apprecaitve to the ppl who are on here to truly help ppl...my goal was to make 35k from feb to dec 06, and if this stock does what it has the potential to do, then im going to possible triple my original goal...which would be awesome..and i have a true gut feeling abt this stock..and i know alot of ppl dont like to use "emotions" when investing, but the maket is ran on emotions..so once again thanks, and maybe by next year my new goal will be 100k...GLTA..!!!
Posted by cassity on :
Purl, do you watch this through out the day? Look at the way the MM's screw with the price. You honestly don't think any manipulation is taking place. Never seen anything like it. Very frustrating!!! -Cassity
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Market Makers are not manipulating prices. Volume is much too brisk for Market Makers, sitting at their desks, to keep up with trading. This is almost pure electronic trading. There is always some Market Maker manipulation, but this is not the driving force for current prices.
My opinion now rests on the borderline between heavy dilution and pump & dump scam. Share value has dropped an average fifty percent over seven trading days. Should this one hit a nickel a share, most certainly a scam being pulled off by the company.
This is a good example of why I urged readers to not buy, to wait, to observe. Avoiding loss of money is significantly more important than is making profits.
Purl Gurl
Posted by glassman on :
just don't forget to tell everybody when to pounce PG.....
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: just don't forget to tell everybody when to pounce PG.....
Glass..almost sounds like you are liking this one... something is going on with this stock...not sure if it is MM manipulation, profit taking, shorting or dilution...
We may never know...
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Ok. Time to pounce is at .065 to .07 per share.
Ha! Ha! This is one of those stocks traders cannot really determine a good pounce time. Concern here is dilution is absolutely taking place. Question remaining is this more than dilution and simply another pink sheet scam.
None can determine this because virtually nothing is known about this company.
Buying at .065 to .07 per "seems" safe but I am not very confident. This one could easily move down to .02 to .03 per by Friday, maybe next week. This one could head upward as well. Heck share prices could be .10 per by Friday.
Most significant problem is a majority of those playing this stock are ignorant traders who have not a single clue. Yeah, reads insulting but mine is the truth. Visit other highly popular boards, simply read article topics, not the articles. Moderately intelligent readers will quickly realize, "Those people are ignorant gits."
What happens when a majority of players are ignorant gits? Who knows? I sure do not. You cannot predict behavior of stupid people.
Is it ok for me to call them stupid this time?
Purl Gurl
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
I will defend my premise of stupid people.
Go over to I-Hub. Look at article topic titles three weeks back, two weeks back. What is the consensus? "TO DAAAAA MOOOOON!"
About all you read a week or two back is how this one will skyrocket and what you do not read is any intelligent discussion, not one single article which is reasonable and logical, save for those few articles of mine which were deleted for being truthful.
Well, bound to be two or three intelligent articles but those are hard to find.
No warnings about what could happen, though.
A participant here, I think yesterday, posted a brief article at I-Hub suggesting dilution. Not a single response. His article was never even noticed all were so busy pumping, cheering, patting each other on the head.
If that ain't stupidity, I am not the monkey's uncle, I am the monkey's mother!
Those are stupid people and mine is not an insult. Mine is a statement of known fact.
People say I have a big fat butt. I do have a big fat butt. I am not insulted by those people. They are stating an observable truth.
I say those people are stupid and they are stupid. That is not an insult. That is the truth.
Maybe this is a cultural issue.
Purl Gurl
Posted by glassman on :
how about ignorant versus criminal...
stupid implies unable to learn...
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Should I continue on being bluntly honest about these topics of ignorance versus stupidity versus criminal scams, nothing but trouble will come about. Some topics we simply cannot discuss because people are fearful of truth.
TCLL is moving up, IESV is moving up, NWD is presenting a possible buying dip, ALMI, maybe a buying dip about to take place, AHMD is wanting to move up but not a good stock, SUWN is presenting a possible buying dip, LYJN is dipping, maybe a speculation buy for the next pump, NDOL might be forming a very brief upward run.
There are other stocks out there. SLJB should not become the focus of your money nor your mind.
Purl Gurl
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Perhaps a final comment on this stupidity issue, you know I cannot keep my mouth shut.
With the I-Hub boys having been belly punched and the wind knocked out of them, some are beginning to engage in reasonably smart talks. Some are beginning to ask, "What happened?"
Lots of money is being lost, potentially lost, certainly lost if prices do not move back up.
Here at Allstocks, readers are being cautioned, readers are being afforded protection. Readers make the choice to pay attention or not.
Purl Gurl
Posted by glassman on :
they have alotof pretty pictures over there Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
it was a calm quiet place at A/S last week.. and people were going on with their regular trading .. hope it returns that way again! I hope mods have started noticing the "pattern" again!
Posted by RagingBull on :
WHAT A BARGAIN HERE IM IN AT .07 WATCH THIS HIT .079 IN THEXT HOUR AND I WILL MAKE A COOL 400 BUCKS
Posted by RagingBull on :
here we go .073 GO GO GO GO
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
Dilution pattern confirmed.. who is diluting? market or company?
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
"they have alot of pretty pictures over there"
I politely suggested they remove half of those pictures. I explained those pictures look cheap, look cheesy, take up too much space.
That "asus" jerk gave me a "member mark" whatever that is, after deleting a lot of my articles with my not providing pure deceitful pump articles.
How stupid of those people to hold a discussion board in such importance. This is like they believe a discussion board is so important as to be the only thing which matters in life. Jeessh... as if I am really afraid of a member mark or banishment.
Now that is stupid. None can argue this.
Purl Gurl
Posted by glassman on :
pretty.....stupid... OK... Posted by RagingBull on :
sold at .079 ching ching
Posted by RagingBull on :
3 round trips already im going to have to wait til tomorrow unlees yo Purl Gurl let me borrow 25gs ill pay you back with ndol stock
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
"...pretty.....stupid... OK..."
Now you are coming around to my way of thinking!
My way of thinking is the only right way to think.
I know I am sometimes too harsh. I have no excuse. Problem is, I really do not care!
Heh, heh, heh...
Purl Gurl
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
stock is going all the way back... to da mooooon Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Posted by 10of13 on :
This was posted on the other thread...
cablerye Member
Rate Member posted August 08, 2006 01:02 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- N E W S Aug 08, 2006 WINDSOR, ON MARKET WIRE A Sulja Brothers Building Supplies (PINKSHEETS: SLJB) company spokesperson announced today that Wessal International is purchasing 25% of Sulja Brothers in the open market. Wessal International is the parent company of Red Sea Group. Red Sea Group was recently selected to strengthen Investor Relations in the Middle East.
CEO Steve Sulja stated: "Sulja Bros. initial business reach into the Middle Eastern market is attracting new investors. Wessal International's President, Ahmed Khalil Al-Muslmani, is buying 25% of the company. No more shares are being issued by Sulja Bros; therefore, Mr. Al-Muslmani has to buy in the open market. By law, this press release is the disclosure of Wessal International's offer and buying can commence in the open market immediately. We are very excited over the interest our company has received in the Middle East. Mr. Al-Muslmani has been watching our growth in large projects and stated his offer at the project closings in Germany. We warmly welcome Wessal International to the family of Sulja Bros. shareholders."
This contains forward-looking information within the meaning of The Private Securities Litigation Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements may be identified through the use of words such as "expects," "will," "anticipates," "estimates," "believes," or statements indicating certain actions: "may," "could," "should" or "might occur." Such forward-looking statements involve certain risks and uncertainties. The actual result may differ materially from such forward-looking statements. The company does not undertake to publicly update or revise its forward-looking statements even if experience or future changes make it clear that any projected results (expressed or implied) will not be realized.
SOURCE: Sulja Bros. Building Supplies Ltd.
Posted by cassity on :
HUGE NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!
SLJB -- Sulja Bros Building Supplies Ltd. Com ($0.001)
COMPANY NEWS AND PRESS RELEASES FROM OTHER SOURCES:
Sulja Bros. Building Supplies Ltd. -- Wessal International Is Purchasing 25% of Sulja Brothers
WINDSOR, ON, Aug 08, 2006 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- A Sulja Brothers Building Supplies (PINKSHEETS: SLJB) company spokesperson announced today that Wessal International is purchasing 25% of Sulja Brothers in the open market. Wessal International is the parent company of Red Sea Group. Red Sea Group was recently selected to strengthen Investor Relations in the Middle East. CEO Steve Sulja stated: "Sulja Bros. initial business reach into the Middle Eastern market is attracting new investors. Wessal International's President, Ahmed Khalil Al-Muslmani, is buying 25% of the company. No more shares are being issued by Sulja Bros; therefore, Mr. Al-Muslmani has to buy in the open market. By law, this press release is the disclosure of Wessal International's offer and buying can commence in the open market immediately. We are very excited over the interest our company has received in the Middle East. Mr. Al-Muslmani has been watching our growth in large projects and stated his offer at the project closings in Germany. We warmly welcome Wessal International to the family of Sulja Bros. shareholders."
This contains forward-looking information within the meaning of The Private Securities Litigation Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements may be identified through the use of words such as "expects," "will," "anticipates," "estimates," "believes," or statements indicating certain actions: "may," "could," "should" or "might occur." Such forward-looking statements involve certain risks and uncertainties. The actual result may differ materially from such forward-looking statements. The company does not undertake to publicly update or revise its forward-looking statements even if experience or future changes make it clear that any projected results (expressed or implied) will not be realized.
SOURCE: Sulja Bros. Building Supplies Ltd.
Copyright 2006 Market Wire, All rights reserved.
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SUBJECT CODE: Real Estate and Construction:Commercial Real Estate Real Estate and Construction:Construction Real Estate and Construction:Residential Real Estate
Search for Dun & Bradstreet reports on this company.
Posted by YellowSubmarine on :
Sulja Bros. Building Supplies Ltd. -- Wessal International Is Purchasing 25% of Sulja Brothers
WINDSOR, ON, Aug 08, 2006 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- A Sulja Brothers Building Supplies (PINKSHEETS: SLJB) company spokesperson announced today that Wessal International is purchasing 25% of Sulja Brothers in the open market. Wessal International is the parent company of Red Sea Group. Red Sea Group was recently selected to strengthen Investor Relations in the Middle East.
CEO Steve Sulja stated: "Sulja Bros. initial business reach into the Middle Eastern market is attracting new investors. Wessal International's President, Ahmed Khalil Al-Muslmani, is buying 25% of the company. No more shares are being issued by Sulja Bros; therefore, Mr. Al-Muslmani has to buy in the open market. By law, this press release is the disclosure of Wessal International's offer and buying can commence in the open market immediately. We are very excited over the interest our company has received in the Middle East. Mr. Al-Muslmani has been watching our growth in large projects and stated his offer at the project closings in Germany. We warmly welcome Wessal International to the family of Sulja Bros. shareholders."
SOURCE: Sulja Bros. Building Supplies Ltd.
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Posted by 10of13 on :
LMAO...anyone else care to post the news?
Posted by RagingBull on :
damn im out of trades i was gonna buy at.061
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
lol... i bought more after seeing news at 0.081... lets GOOOOOOO Posted by glassman on :
so? today's action was the MM's trying to fill some big orders as cheap as they could....
Posted by weekendwarrior1 on :
.098
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
How will this company buy twenty-five percent ownership in SLJB simply through the public float? Anyone take time to crunch numbers?
Most likely not.
Purl Gurl
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
0.099x0.1... i am looking for 0.15 at close today....
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Why on Earth would a reputable business person place himself at the mercy of public share holders?
Not discounting this run up, a good time to flip.
However, "something ain't right."
Purl Gurl
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: so? today's action was the MM's trying to fill some big orders as cheap as they could....
that's what it would appear... Right now I play the game...tonight I investigate... Posted by RagingBull on :
l* purl gurl uh oh i knew it was too good to be true
Posted by glassman on :
However, "something ain't right."
it's the pennies PG...
haven't you ever been in an abattoir?
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
I understand. I am the only one willing to bring up intelligent discussion which benefits all readers.
Purl Gurl
Posted by glassman on :
nope... that's not true..
namecallers gone...
price is rising... can't argue withthat...
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
for chart freaks.. this is the perfect kind of chart that can give a hueg rebound.. plenty of room to move.. great news.. huge interest in the stock... GLTA!
Posted by BooDog on :
1.43 wasn't a fat finger was it? someone goof?
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
How ironic, Cassity, weekendwarrior, others and me discuss how traders need to be cautious, need to gain information about a company, need to develop a trustworthy picture. All read our discussions, or I assume so.
The instant questionable news comes out, almost all of you suddenly go stupid, go into a buying frenzy, toss all caution to the wind.
A majority of traders, here and elsewhere, are now suffering a massive stupidity fit.
Sure, flip it. Why are you not looking at details, not asking questions, not discussing the validity of this news? Because you are having a stupid bout.
All these efforts by a few of us to help readers learn and become better traders, for naught; gone in a flash, like your money.
Purl Gurl
Posted by glassman on :
why do you say it's gone?
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by BooDog: 1.43 wasn't a fat finger was it? someone goof?
other stock boo...
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Well, heck, Glassman, I have already been accused of being a basher for daring to present questions about this news.
That is not only stupid but hateful.
Purl Gurl
Posted by RagingBull on :
i just went short on SLJB purl Gurl
Posted by BooDog on :
oops
Posted by weekendwarrior1 on :
nevermind...forget what i said...
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by Purl Gurl: Well, heck, Glassman, I have already been accused of being a basher for daring to present questions about this news.
That is not only stupid but hateful.
Purl Gurl
ignorance, stupidity or criminal? it's gone..
Posted by 10of13 on :
Some posters bring up very good questions, I however am one that needs time to investigate...I've been in this for a while...made great % gains...will continue to do so...and when I have actual information to share I will share...some may call it "stupid"...it's all in one's perspective...I play the game and when I have the time will look further...
For those of you that can, and will, research now...if that is how you "work"..."stupid" is NOT trading the way that "works" for YOU and trying to trade on someone elses say so! IMO...
Play your game, protect your capital and take your profits...however it is that one does it...IMO!
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
I am glad SLJB has gone back to where it belongs and also glad lot of frontloaders have sold yesterday and today.. as for shorters.. i hope they are not betting on stock going back to 0.08 .. anything above that is acceptable...
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
weekendwarrior, I am complimenting you for having enough smarts to discuss stocks.
Why does my compliment of you, insult you?
I am writing you are one of the smarter participants here at Allstocks. This is not an insult, yes?
Purl Gurl
Posted by weekendwarrior1 on :
sorry purl, i read it too fast, i totally apoligize, that is why i took down the post...i thought u meant i was one of the ones going crazy..once again im sorry..i just read to to fast...thanks for the compliment.~
Posted by RagingBull on :
well in reality this stock was .15 last week so this is just a minor bounce hopefully it will continue to bounce all week to a dollar
Posted by glassman on :
yes, RB, and for some reason it tanked didn't it?
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Ok, weekendwarrior. I see now you have edited your post. Not a problem and I am sorry for any offense I caused. We all do stuff like this, which includes me.
What I am trying to do is prompt readers into discussing this news release. This has nothing to do with potential for profits, on the side. This has to do with testing the validity of the news; is that news true and trustworthy?
I instantly see two major problems. It is doubtful this company can buy twenty-five percent of the SLJB company through the public float, and I question why a company would release news like this which will drive prices up placing the buyer in a bad position.
"something ain't right."
Purl Gurl
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: yes, RB, and for some reason it tanked didn't it?
Profit takers? Lost interest? Shorters? So hard to tell...but it did "hold" the higher levels from just before the symbol change...hard to tell...
Posted by glassman on :
i see a lot of buying....
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
Man o man. lol
Posted by RagingBull on :
good point Purl Gurl
Posted by cassity on :
All I can say is that businesses have plans long before they tell us. This is not something they just decided to do. I have not had a good reason to doubt the company, and as soon as they give me one I'll be out. They have been doing business with Wessal for a while now, and the company obviously wants most of the business from UAE. I believe much bigger news will be out in the coming weeks, but this is great news and I will enjoy it for now. If the float is 200mil than I believe Wessal will buy up 50 million. GLTA
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
Not discounting this run up, a good time to flip.
However, "something ain't right."
Purl Gurl
Posted by cassity on :
I think that the Wessal has been buying the float for several days. I don't think that they will begin now, I think they will be finishing up soon. JMO
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
I will try this again, hopefully without so much negative reaction.
Almost nothing is known about SLJB. Traders need to learn as much as possible to help with making better decisions, like flipping versus holding.
What is the authorized number of shares? What is the current public float?
How many shares will this company need to buy to attain twenty-five percent interest?
Is this possible through the public float?
If not, the news is deceitful, or SLJB intends to dilute to make shares available.
Perhaps this is the source of recent dilution. Maybe SLJB is dumping shares to this buyer.
SLJB indicates it will not issue more shares, but this has nothing to do with dumping the existing authorized shares.
There you have a situation indicating SLJB is being less than honest. SLJB indicates no dilution, but dilution is in effect. SLJB will not issue more shares, but how will this buyer acquire twenty-five percent interest without more shares being dumped into the market?
Do you not see the contradiction presented by SLJB news?
Once again, SLJB has struck a deal with the buyer. Why would SLJB announce this buying BEFORE any buying is effected? This causes harm to the buyer which is inconsistent with making a good faith deal which benefits the buyer.
All over the place, contradictions are flying.
Readers simply must test the validity of this company's word if to make smart decisions, if to avoid losses and if to make profits.
You known nothing about this company. Why are you not testing this company's word?
Purl Gurl
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: I think that the Wessal has been buying the float for several days. I don't think that they will begin now, I think they will be finishing up soon. JMO
My thoughts as well
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Share prices are currently crashing back down.
The "real money" is not there, yes?
Telling you, "something ain't right."
I am not writing to buy, not writing to sell, not writing to bash as I am accused, not writing to indicate this is a scam or not a scam.
I am writing to encourage readers to engage in meaningful discussion which benefits all.
If you are to make good profits, with some safety, you must ask questions, you must test your notions, you must trade wisely.
Prices are crashing. This tells you a lot; no faith amongst those with the real money.
...or heavy dilution is continuing.
Purl Gurl
Posted by cassity on :
Purl, wouldn't the float stay the same as it was with LFWK. Sulja was a private company, so they wouldn't be bringing any shares to the table. Correct me if I'm wrong. Also, the float on LFWK was 200mil. I'm not a very skeptical person and I tend to believe people until they give me a reason not to. SLJB has followed through with everything thus far, and they don't drag their heels. I think things will make more and more sense with each piece of the puzzle. JMO
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
Glass, I was always saying it would drop from price of 0.115.. charts were pretty clear on that.. MM's ddint have shares to give.. stock was overbought.. and once it starts going down.. only PR can bring it up.. .. and this stock has always behaved erratically as per MM's demands.. I know it since I have been in for a while now..
nobody can deny the fact that aftyer news, more people have bought than sold, besides flippers ofcourse..
as for wessel buying, IMO they would have been buying for a while, if at all they were.. I dont know about this specific deal, but as per their PR's.. they havent given me any doubt till date about truth in their PR's..
Posted by cassity on :
I think the question we should be asking is why would Wessal want to buy? They must believe that Sulja has a bright future, and I can pretty much guarantee they have seen verifiable financials. This is big news, and it just barely came out, wait for others to have time to read and research and I think the buying will continue.
Posted by glassman on :
if the MM's had large standing limit orders?
that would explain some ofthe mis-behaving i've seen on this stock today...
of course? i have to be paranoid to think this way Posted by weekendwarrior1 on :
purl, I agree, ppl need to be careful and due their own DD, im confident w.my own DD and gut feeling abt this company, but it is never smart to just buy a stock because there is hype or there is much talk abt it....we should all do our own DD and then on days like the past few days if your not truly confident in your own DD or the company at the first sign of a sinkning pps we would sell..but im here to let everything pan out, and jst like cassity stated since ive been following this company, they have not gave mea reason not to believe there statments, but they still need to be investigated...GLTA !!!
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Cassity inquires,
"Purl, wouldn't the float stay the same as it was with LFWK."
My presumption is yes. I agree. However, I will discuss in a moment why this might not be.
So, two-hundred-million shares in the float, best we know. What is the authorized amount? This is the shares available minus what has been placed on the market.
Assuming no more authorized shares have been dumped on the market, which would be consistent with SLJB claiming, "no dilution," how much of the public float is in public hands? We do not know, will never know. However, my hunch is, with all the pumping, all the excitement, the public float, more than a majority is held by the public. I held more than a quarter of a million shares last week. There are many others who buy large amounts like me. There are a lot of traders out there buying smaller amounts but these add up to a lot.
Again, my hunch is there is not enough shares in the public float to attain a twenty-five percent interest. This leaves the option of dumping more authorized shares into the market, which could explain the heavy dilution going on for more than a week.
SLJB claims no dilution. There is dilution.
See the problem? A single instance of deceit defeats "everything" this company has said; company word cannot be trusted.
Once a liar, always a liar.
Is SLJB lying to the public? I do not know.
I do know, again, "something ain't right."
That is all it takes for me to back away and question my previous opinions. I am not one to cling to what I believe is right. I am one to question if I am right.
Returning to the float question, there are many mechanisms to increase the authorized shares without share holder consent. A company can say, "no more shares will be issued" and this leaves an out; "issued" is not the same as "authorized." SLJB can authorize more shares but not issue those shares. SLJB can also use those shares to make "in house" deals with other companies. This is not "issue" of shares.
Legalese wording works in favor of a company, not the public.
SEC filings are needed right away so we can examine what is happening, hopefully examine some factual and true data.
Purl Gurl
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
same old..same old.... looks like share prices are crashing right now.. BxA 0.1x0.105...
Posted by showme$ on :
i am a newbie, why is that stock going up all over something?
a good samarithan please answer
Posted by YellowSubmarine on :
Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd. (Other OTC: SLJB.PK) Pro Forma Will Be Released Tomorrow
WINDSOR, ON, Aug 08, 2006 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd. (PINKSHEETS: SLJB) announced today that the company will be releasing the pro forma tomorrow August 9, 2006.
CEO Steve Sulja stated: "Sulja Bros. has updated the pro forma to contain the recently closed projects. The closings, in Germany, have boosted our outlook for the next 12 months significantly. The pro forma numbers will continue to increase as more projects close in the future. The future numbers are astounding and the shareholders deserve to know the project contracts have come to fruition."
SOURCE: Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd.
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Posted by showme$ on :
I see, it's the project closing
Posted by cassity on :
We may not have all the news, but it's coming!!! IMO Once again the company is backing up the hype!
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
"The future numbers are astounding and the shareholders deserve to know the project contracts have come to fruition."
Classic pump and dump rhetoric. More and more of SLJB news contains pump and dump rhetoric.
Choice of words is a strong clue. "Astounding" is a very clear danger signal.
"...deserve to know...." is justification for releasing news before the report is ready; preemptive excuse making.
Purl Gurl
Posted by Wallace on :
I am brand spankin new to this world of penny stock trading. From what I have researched so far, there are a lot of scams out there. I know that if you play it right you can make money from them even though they are junk. Anyway, I would appreciate any suggestions as to websites or resources that anyone has found helpful. Also, are there any good newsletters worth subsribing to?
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
"...I am not sure if you have ever heard a term called profit taking...."
If you do not stop deliberately insulting me, I will ask you be removed from Allstocks and I will keep asking until you are removed.
I will not tolerate your inane personal insults.
Purl Gurl
Posted by glassman on :
PG...
did you not post that you made 3000$ trading this last week?
you are sceaming halt!! in the middle of a run and you expect people not to respond?
i'm sorry, but this is just humanity..
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
I cleared just under thirty grand through very intense, very fast flipping. Mostly I worked with a one to two cent profit margin. High volume made this possible; fewer commissions allowing narrow margins.
Purl Gurl
Posted by glassman on :
but today nobody should trade it?
Posted by weekendwarrior1 on :
30k? geez louise...lol
Posted by 10of13 on :
Wallace..I will send you a PM...with some info...also check the general investing topics for newbies...has great info...
Welcome and good luck to you
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
"you are sceaming halt!"
Glassman, you know that is not true.
Readers only need to review my articles to note I have not done this.
I am advising readers to be cautious and to engage in honest discussion, no more.
Do not twist my words into deceit.
Purl Gurl
Posted by glassman on :
i hear you saying it...
it must be my comprehension..
i just have to delete all the sreaming that's all...
Posted by 10of13 on :
Glass..could you check the FHAL thread? Please
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
You hear what you want to hear, not what is said.
Purl Gurl
Posted by glassman on :
i'm telling you what everybody is hearing
Posted by Wallace on :
Thanks for taking the time 10of13.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Wallace: Thanks for taking the time 10of13.
LOL..Not a problem...you just "walked" into a little bit of a heated discussion...some didn't see your post... Allstocks is a good place to be...mostly!
Posted by zoers on :
10of13, you PM Wallace with some info for newbies. I am also very new and was wondering if the info could be of revelant to myself. BTW I have read a good portion of the general investing topics and am learning a great deal from everyone here. Thanks for taking the time for us newbies.
zoers
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by zoers: 10of13, you PM Wallace with some info for newbies. I am also very new and was wondering if the info could be of revelant to myself. BTW I have read a good portion of the general investing topics and am learning a great deal from everyone here. Thanks for taking the time for us newbies.
zoers
There yah go...hope it helps...I've posted it over on the general investing board in the past...maybe I need to find it and bump it back to the top...
GLTY!
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by Wallace: Thanks for taking the time 10of13.
LOL..Not a problem...you just "walked" into a little bit of a heated discussion...some didn't see your post... Allstocks is a good place to be...mostly!
Look at the motherly love you have 10. Welcome, fellas GLTY Posted by 10of13 on :
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
some motherly love here too 10, I am newbie.. can you help me with technical analysis?? Posted by 10of13 on :
R/M...like you need help there...You need to help ME with that one!
Posted by YellowSubmarine on :
quote:Originally posted by YellowSubmarine: Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd. (Other OTC: SLJB.PK) Pro Forma Will Be Released Tomorrow
Business
A pro forma document is provided in advance of an actual transaction. Such a document serves as a model for the actual documents of the transaction. For example, when a new corporation is envisioned, its founders may prepare a business plan containing pro forma financial statements, such as projected cash flows and income statements.
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Posted by glassman on :
Business
Businessgood...stick to Business not peopleses
Posted by YellowSubmarine on :
If you sit back with a double Margarita and some finger food, ...this is almost as much fun as watching a Mel Brooks Space Balls re-run..!!! Or, perhaps seeing those dauntless goof-troops on Monty Python's Flying Circus attack the castle on their stick-horses, while wearing their lime green tights and pixie shoes..!!!
Everytime the slimy, scheming, MFMMM sleazebags try to walk the price down for another COVER (..above their Shorting cost..), the Sulja Brothers just reach into their tote sack and drop another Press Release on them, ...wrecking their whole day..!!!
"...Bwaaaaaaa haaaaaa haaaaa haaaa haaa haa ha ha ha ha ha.................
It's great time to be an SLJB Long - with an acutely chubby Tomorrow Sock..!!!
:-)
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Posted by YellowSubmarine on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman:".. peopleses.."???
Were you to lose the 'gl', I think that you, Kramer, and the Doctor (..as well as many of your buddies..) would probably have a great deal in common.
"..BUY or CRY.." - it's gonna fly...................
:-)
.
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by YellowSubmarine:
quote:Originally posted by glassman:".. peopleses.."???
Were you to lose the 'gl', I think that you, Kramer, and the Doctor (..as well as many of your buddies..) would probably have a great deal in common.
"..BUY or CRY.." - it's gonna fly...................
:-)
.
you may as well call Bob that...since i'm just telling you his policy..
been nice knowin' ya...
Posted by T e x on :
Posted by glassman on :
it's always nice when your friends put you in impossible situations isn't it...
and then whine at you LOL
Posted by T e x on :
dunno...
never happened to me Posted by glassman on :
its EZ to avoid... no friends...
Posted by T e x on :
Three Dog Night?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Did yellow just call you a name and then he got hit by an arrow?
Posted by glassman on :
i can't recall the last time i heard so much complaining
musta been at least a month ago...
Posted by T e x on :
SHAKESPEARE!
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: i can't recall the last time i heard so much complaining
musta been at least a month ago...
CCS...
calendar compression software
Posted by weekendwarrior1 on :
purl if u get a chance send me a message..i got a few questions abt MMs, If u get a chance..thanks.
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
"i got a few questions abt MMs"
Nope, no way! I have a big fat butt and I will not be tempted by MMs candy. Nope, nope.
Ice cream, yes. MMs, nope.
Purl Gurl
Posted by weekendwarrior1 on :
lmbo....MARKET MAKERS, lol...how did i know when i wrote MMs u would make fun...lol....
how can u resist M&Ms..lol
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Thanks loads. Just from looking at your picture my butt gained ten pounds.
Market Makers, sleazy bunch of BMW driving Star Bucks drinking half-wits who know nothing about trading stocks, who earn a living for their families by stealing from American families.
You need know nothing else.
Purl Gurl
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Purl Gurl how can you keep saying classic pump and dump. You do realize that this company made 67 mill in revenues and 15 million in net income last year. That's not a pump and dump.
Posted by weekendwarrior1 on :
lol...hmm...since were being sarcastic tonite..ENJOY....
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Oh brother, now I will need a larger wheel barrow for my big fat butt. You are a mean man.
Purl Gurl
Posted by weekendwarrior1 on :
lol...my bad.... Posted by Purl Gurl on :
"Purl Gurl how can you keep saying classic pump and dump."
You are trying to fool readers into believing I wrote this is a pump and dump scam. I did not. You are practicing deceit. This is not appreciated and you are successfully rendering your credibility to zero.
"You do realize that this company made 67 mill in revenues and 15 million in net income last year."
I am stupid. I never research. I did not know this.
Are you citing an audited financial report?
Financial standing has no relationship to a pump and dump scam. You are flaunting your significant ignorance.
"That's not a pump and dump."
I have not read any claiming this company is a pump and dump scam. Your reading comprehension skills are less than adequate.
Next in line, please.
Purl Gurl
Posted by glassman on :
come on Purl, you can be nicer than that to him...
he asked politely...
Posted by weekendwarrior1 on :
"Next in line, please."
NO SOUP FOR YOU.!
lol...okay i offically cant be serious in this part of the board.!
Posted by glassman on :
so it'snot classic? you said However, when volume is very high and prices are down trending, we can safely assume dilution which is being sold into an ever diminishing market, into common traders who slowly drop out of buying as cash is consumed. As the ordinary trader cash flow diminishes, share prices fall to entice the last of the money into the stock.
Yes, there is some corporate type activity taking place, lenders, insiders, Market Makers, whomever. This masks the underlying majority buying, which would be a limited number of ordinary traders whose cash pool is slowly diminishing. Posted by glassman on :
and? you said My opinion now rests on the borderline between heavy dilution and pump & dump scam. Share value has dropped an average fifty percent over seven trading days. Should this one hit a nickel a share, most certainly a scam being pulled off by the company.
since it hit .061 today? it came awful close to your threshold...
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
No, he did not. He is being rude. He is trying to game me with deceit.
I will not tolerate deceit when directed at me. Others, that is their problem. When a person is deliberately rude to me, this is my business. Moderators can deal with this or I will deal with this.
I will no longer tolerate being harassed.
Purl Gurl
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
You are practicing deceit, Glassman. I do not appreciate this.
I did not write this is a pump and dump scam.
Are you a pumper now, Glassman? Are opposing opinions no longer allowed, like at I-Hub?
Purl Gurl
Posted by glassman on :
what deceit am i practicing PG?
i cut and pasted your exact words...
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by Purl Gurl: posted August 08, 2006 10:10
Market Makers are not manipulating prices. Volume is much too brisk for Market Makers, sitting at their desks, to keep up with trading. This is almost pure electronic trading. There is always some Market Maker manipulation, but this is not the driving force for current prices.
My opinion now rests on the borderline between heavy dilution and pump & dump scam. Share value has dropped an average fifty percent over seven trading days. Should this one hit a nickel a share, most certainly a scam being pulled off by the company.
This is a good example of why I urged readers to not buy, to wait, to observe. Avoiding loss of money is significantly more important than is making profits.
Purl Gurl
this is the exact post...
i am trying to help everybody figger out WTF is going on...
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
I am not interesting in playing mind games. Try someone else who is actually gullible. Maybe go over to I-Hub and deliberately start an argument over there.
Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd. (SLJB.PK) Announces Additional Investor Relations Office Wednesday August 9, 12:19 pm ET
WINDSOR, ON--(MARKET WIRE)--Aug 9, 2006 -- A Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd. (Other OTC:SLJB.PK - News) spokesperson announced today that another investor relations firm is being contracted to receive investor's calls. Sulja Bros. investor relations, through Wessal International, can still be reached at 42.203.002.3884. ADVERTISEMENT
CEO Steve Sulja stated: "The Sulja Brothers investor call volume at Wessal International exceeded the call center's capacity. Wessal International was unable to receive and respond to all questions in a timely manner. Another Investor Relations firm is being contracted in New York City, New York. The firm's name will be announced when all contract papers are completed. We anticipate the new firm will be taking calls within 10 business days."
This contains forward-looking information within the meaning of The Private Securities Litigation Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements may be identified through the use of words such as "expects," "will," "anticipates," "estimates," "believes," or statements indicating certain actions: "may," "could," "should" or "might occur." Such forward-looking statements involve certain risks and uncertainties. The actual result may differ materially from such forward-looking statements. The company does not undertake to publicly update or revise its forward-looking statements even if experience or future changes make it clear that any projected results (expressed or implied) will not be realized.
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
And it still gos DOWN. DILUTION!!!!
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by IMAKEMONEY: And it still gos DOWN. DILUTION!!!!
What are you talking about? The CEO would much rather get this to nasdaq then dilute it. The price is stablizing and gaining support in this range, before the next leg up. Relax.
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
Its starting to look like a PR pump fest to me.JMO
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
IMAKEMONEY you were all for this, now you are bashing it. It isn't a PR pump fest, every PR has had meat behind it.
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
stocktrader22, I still have shares but come on this is wrong.
Posted by wallymac on :
OK, we know that Wessal is buying 25% in the open market. Is it so hard to believe that they have an order in on the bid to buy? Why it the ask and keep raising the price on yourself. Most traders I know would do it if they were taking a larger position. They would put on order in for a portion of what they want and then adjust as the price went down. It sucks that we aren't moving up like everybody wants but does make sense.
GLTA Wally
Posted by 10of13 on :
I don't know if this is dilution or what...what I do know is that this is how this stock has traded for several months...not sure about before then...FWIW...
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
quote:Originally posted by IMAKEMONEY: stocktrader22, I still have shares but come on this is wrong.
ofcourse IMAKE.. just because you have sold and made your money doesnt mean others should not.. good idea if you stop bashing!
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
ruskin_muskin, Do you think i have that much pull, come-on.
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
"Do you think i have that much pull, come-on."
Yeah, you do, IMAKEMONEY. Those boys accused me of causing NDOL to crash from 1.50 to .35 per share. I did this all on my own by writing some cautionary articles about NDOL.
They say I did this. Must be true, just as true as you are highly manipulating SLJB. There is no pump. There is no dilution. Falling prices are all your fault. You are a very powerful stock trader.
Next, you will be exposed for being a paid basher.
;)
Purl Gurl
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
Little old me, paid, where do i sign up.lol
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
quote:Originally posted by IMAKEMONEY: ruskin_muskin, Do you think i have that much pull, come-on.
I didnt say you have that much pull IMAKE.. but I hope you wont get to one of those "I told you so"!!! and am not surprised as to who came to your support.. nice team.. keep it up!
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Quite interesting, "paid bashers" are a complete urban stock market myth. There are no paid bashers.
You can spot pump and dump scamsters, regardless of stock. Should you write an article which is not supportive of a stock, those pumpers are very quick to accuse you of being a basher.
Some people do bash. Usually this is not bashing but rather trolling; an attempt to stir up trouble. Those people are no smarter than pumpers.
Eventually, people catch on and begin ignoring both those who pump and those who bash.
What creeps me out, is there are half-dozen or so participants in this thread secretly trying to have me banished because of my articles in this thread. That is very wrongful behavior, but very typical of pumpers.
Gotta watch your back. Being candid, honest and upfront, will bring trouble to your door.
You should read some the hate email I receive!
Do not ever back down. Being truthful is part of maintaining your dignity. Should you allow cowardly pumpers to silence your voice, this is more dishonorable than being a pumper.
On both sides of this issue, honor can only be maintained when you present your personal opinion in a reasonable, supported and factual fashion. Any discussion should be intelligent and worthy, regardless if negative or positive.
Purl Gurl
Posted by glassman on :
ruskin isn't one of them
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
pumpers.. bashers.. check out IMAKE's posts.. he was in this for a while.. read his past posts.. notice how they differ from when he was fully in it and after he sold off his position.. that would show why he is posting what he is posting!
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
IMAKEMONEY, some interest here, maybe not much.
My history of opinion on this one has moved through a lot of changes.
Early on, months back, I was skeptical. My opinion was based on what was then known about Loftwerk. I was not impressed, not at all. Back then, nothing was known about the "brothers."
With recent release of informal unaudited financials, my opinion moved to cautious optimism.
Now with pump and dump dilution being very clear, my opinion has moved to high skepticism. I am just about ready to write this one off as a scam.
This is a serious problem when we work with low end cheap penny stocks, especially pink sheets. One day, all looks really good. The next day, all turns to crap.
A caution here is if a person develops an opinion, negative or positive, then clings to that opinion regardless of new information, that person will lose money in the long run.
You must be prepared to change your opinion and must be prepared to effect appropriate action.
Changing your opinion is not an admission of personal fault, this is an admission of being an intelligent person.
Purl Gurl
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
I Agree 100% Purl.
Posted by glassman on :
so the big question is are you bottom up investor?
or a top-down trader....
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
bottom up investor
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: so the big question is are you bottom up investor?
or a top-down trader....
Can I be a bottom up "trader"?
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
There is a person readers clearly want to ignore. That is a person who will lead you to loss of money.
Purl Gurl
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
I can't believe the moderators deleted my post. Purl Gurl you will soon find out that you are wrong, and you are the one who will be missing out. It takes time for the market to realize what is going on here with this stock. I do not think that you have any right to call this a pump and dump stock. You have no evidence behind any of your claims.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: I can't believe the moderators deleted my post. Purl Gurl you will soon find out that you are wrong, and you are the one who will be missing out. It takes time for the market to realize what is going on here with this stock. I do not think that you have any right to call this a pump and dump stock. You have no evidence behind any of your claims.
i didn't see your deleted post...but people do have the "right" to call the stock what ever they want...and as readers we need to make an educated decision...what "we as posters" shouldn't do is call posters names...IMO...
The stock pps will speak for itself as far as what it is or isn't...IMO..
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: I can't believe the moderators deleted my post. Purl Gurl you will soon find out that you are wrong, and you are the one who will be missing out. It takes time for the market to realize what is going on here with this stock. I do not think that you have any right to call this a pump and dump stock. You have no evidence behind any of your claims.
i didn't see your deleted post...but people do have the "right" to call the stock what ever they want...and as readers we need to make an educated decision...what "we as posters" shouldn't do is call posters names...IMO...
The stock pps will speak for itself as far as what it is or isn't...IMO..
I didn't call Purl Gurl any names in my deleted post. My point is what makes her opinion any more credible than mine? There has been no evidence of dilution, and yet she says pump and dump because of dilution. Share price right now means nothing, this stock a few months back was at .003 you expect it to just explode overnight? Of course this stock is going to channel between .06-.12 until more concrete things such as audited financials appear. You will see a sudden huge PPS increase anywhere from the next month-1 year. I am holding long, because any company that expects to produce 300mill in rev and 93 mill net profit before taxes is a winner in my book. Their earnings from last year speaks volumes already.
Posted by 10of13 on :
stocktrader...again...yours more credible? another person more credible? ALL just opinions...and you've heard the saying of "opinions being like a******s...eveyone has one..."
Facts do speak and are to be more credit worthy than Opinons...IMO...
Some "posters" get a "little" upset and defensive at times...almost paranoid...posters need to be less defensive IMO...and not worry so much about anothers Opinion...but hey just another opinion..LOL!
It would do the boards well if posts could stick to the stock...and not OPINIONS of the poster... Seems that is where so many problems come in... GLTA!
Posted by glassman on :
i know it isn't obviuous to most, but i've noticed quite a few people that aren't posting here today for not posting about the stock....
opinions about people are not wanted...
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
opinions about people are not wanted...
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
My opinion is that Purl Gurl character is a fruitcake.
Calamity Jane
Posted by glassman on :
no nuttier than the rest of us....
just more of a "conducter"
Posted by a surfer on :
Amen to that
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
* Holy Roller Gospel Preacher Voice *
Brothers and sisters! Clap your hands and let me hear an AMEN! I said clap your hands and let me hear an AMEN!
CHORUS:
(CLAP) AMEN! (CLAP) AMEN! (CLAP) AMEN!
I say AMEN brothers and sisters! I say AMEN to you and the Good Lord above! AMEN brothers and sisters, AMEN!
Purl Gurl
Posted by glassman on :
pretty impressive lightning rod huh? that's induced lightning...
made by a rocket trailing a wire into a highly charged cloud....
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Glassman, you know I am mad at you.
You also know lightning only empowers me, energizes me, excites me. Want me to point a finger at you and let fly?
I could give you a Jimi Hendrix hairdo in a flash.
Coiffure Coquette
Posted by T e x on :
"induced lightning"
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by Purl Gurl: Glassman, you know I am mad at you.
You also know lightning only empowers me, energizes me, excites me. Want me to point a finger at you and let fly?
I could give you a Jimi Hendrix hairdo in a flash.
Coiffure Coquette
you could if i had any hair.... Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: "induced lightning"
light fuse, and RUN RUN RUN.....
note the platform behind him is the same.....
also note? the lightning picture is taken from much MUCH farther away... Posted by weekendwarrior1 on :
":* Holy Roller Gospel Preacher Voice *"
hey im a Holy Roller..
and lets just all agree to disagree....
its either a.) the company is a scam and the PRs are just fluff and ppl are going to lose lots of money and other ppl are going to jail...the MMs have no involvment in the pps, and its all Dilution
OR
b.) this company is a LEGIT company that has a BRIGHT AND GREEN FUTURE, and its going to make a lot of ppl wealthy, and the MMs do have a effect on the PPS and there are ppl shorting this stock, and the company is telling the Truth in there is no Dilution.!!!
IMO......its B, i trust my Gut Feeling in this company...so take my DD for a grain of salt, and go do your own..but no need to call ea. other bashers, or pumpers for that matter, Ive only seen 2 ppl on here so far that i know are bashers, and i hardly ever see them post on here...so once again due you own DD be CONFIDENT in it, and in time we will see who is right and who is wrong.!!!! GLTA
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Hmm... choice A or choice B? Choice A or choice B?
I will take the pretty girl in front of door #3 for five-hundred.
Purl Gurl
Posted by weekendwarrior1 on :
thats it PURL...!!!!!!! I FINALLY POST A SERIOUS POST AND U MAKE ME LAUGH...TIME TO POST MORE PICS OF M&Ms.....lol
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman:
quote:Originally posted by T e x: "induced lightning"
light fuse, and RUN RUN RUN.....
note the platform behind him is the same.....
also note? the lightning picture is taken from much MUCH farther away...
not to mention the EERIE resemblance to Bill Gates' first-cousin
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
I have adjusted my opinion somewhat.
Evidence is now very clear. SLJB is simply another pink sheet pump and dump scam.
A series of pump pr news, extreme dilution, falling share prices, all point very directly to a typical pump and dump scam.
All traditional classic signals of a pump and dump scam are present.
Purl Gurl
Posted by Swing_trading101 on :
added more at 0.065..
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Readers are invited to learn about typical trader psychology through direct observation. Doing so, this learning, is important for assessing true trader perception which strongly effects share prices, and your ability to profit, or to lose.
As evidence develops traders have been fooled, and I will not respond to claims of sexism, as traders are fooled, men will fall to deep denial and admantly defend their stock position.
As this reality of being fooled soaks in, men will become highly combative, verbally. We should see very aggressive articles beginning to appear as time passes. These articles will strongly insist SLJP is a winner and lots of excuses and faulty reasoning will be afforded to support this.
Should you venture over to the I-Hub board, and I urge you to NOT do this, should you provide an intelligent professional level article which discusses pump and dump, you will be subjected to a barrage of insults, your article deleted and, possibly, you will be banished.
In time, numbers of participant over there will begin to dwindle as some men silently, in their minds, admit a mistake. Eventually about all which will be left is bagholders, much like you see with the NDOL board, today. These bag holders will be very cranky and very combative.
My expectation is you will deal with my thoughts in a mature and responsible manner. These type of observations will help you to make better decisions on stock trading, will assist you by affording a better chance at profits, or more important, avoiding losses.
Trader perception is the major factor which controls share prices. This you know. Trader perception is the hardest factor to determine.
Through direct observation in an impartial and unemotional manner will help you determine a current trader perception.
My article has nothing to do with sexism, has nothing to do with bashing. My article has everything to do with observation of reality.
Purl Gurl
Posted by JL on :
Who buys 25% of a Company in open market through the Pink Sheets? SLJB smells like CHIT. IMHO.
Maybe to just below .02 is where its headed.
Posted by MoneyMaker2006 on :
(SLJB) Sulja Brothers Building Supplies, Ltd. recently stated it is meeting with Consultech Construction Management and Emaar Properties, in Germany, to finalize a major construction and supply agreement.
This in today
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
"Who buys 25% of a Company in open market through the Pink Sheets?"
Written before, no reputable companies would agree to this type of deal.
I am wondering if there are connections between the buyer and the brothers, such as common officers, common major shareholders or common directors.
Purl Gurl
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Is it too early in this game for me to write, "I told you so"?
Maybe this one will skyrocket next week, yes?
TO DA MOOOOOOON......
:)
Do not be too discouraged, "things" are known to change in a hurry with pink sheets. However, most of the current buyers are bag holders. Rather unlikely any significant rally will take place again until enough new suckers enter the markets.
Never know, those informal financials might prove to be true, and the company might admit, "We lied about dilution," all leading to recovery.
Purl Gurl
Posted by glassman on :
so purl does that mean it's time?
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
The other day I suggested a buy price of .065 to .07 would "seem" safe. I suspect this one will close around a nickel, today, perhaps .055 to .058 per.
Tomorrow, probably will drop into four cent range, maybe .045 to .048 per.
Next week, if this dilution continues, chances are fair prices will drop to .02 as suggested by another, possibly by Friday next week.
I did not think prices would fall below .065 per share. Rather clear this is worse of a scam than any thought; total ripoff.
Purl Gurl
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Those ten-thousand pictures over at I-Hub sure did not help, yes?
Funny how naive traders believe pictures and shouting will control share prices. Those traders are not in touch with reality, not at all; they live in a fantasy world.
Purl Gurl
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
Purl Gurl, You were right. And so was I.
Posted by weekendwarrior1 on :
we shall see....all in due time
Posted by Swing_trading101 on :
nice post weekend.. in due time we shall see.. I am sure bulls are all over LFWK/SLJB. I have huge bid order at 0.05 today, but didnt fill in, i will place that again tomorrow.. GLTA who are in this while "I told you so" can still celebrate.. Posted by Purl Gurl on :
"Purl Gurl, You were right. And so was I."
Yep. Dead on right.
Rather humorous this way people come rushing in, insulting you, calling you stupid, claiming you know nothing about stocks, try to have your articles deleted, try to have you banished.
Over at I-Hub, we would both have been banished a long time back.
In the end, those people only prove two things:
They are idiots and they are crooks.
I can deal with them being idiots, this is most expected. However, I become very angry when those people deliberately steal money from our American families out there.
Might be some hope. Audited financials might be released prompting a rally allowing bag holders to escape this one with lesser losses or maybe even break even. I hope so. I feel bad for those who innocently suckered for this.
Might be a rally coming, doubtful, but maybe.
Purl Gurl
Posted by leavenart on :
I see you're leaving yourself a back door on this Purl. I'm having a problem accepting the scam conclusion myself. I agree, it does have some of the elements, but there are other elements that make me think it may be just a poorly done deal that is now getting hammered. For instance, the change from lfwk, the pr's on the deals in Dubai, unverified financials and finally the 'twenty-five percent buy back. I doubt these folks are experts in this business, and perhaps they just fell into things too fast. The fact is we just need information.
Posted by weekendwarrior1 on :
^^^ true ^^^ like i said everyone knows where i stand on here, and all opinions are welcome, but just like someone making a post "DULITION" and no info backing it up is just as bad if not worse then a post that states "TO DA MOON"....but all in due time we will see who is right..GLTA
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
"I see you're leaving yourself a back door on this Purl."
No. I am being truthful with readers. Your comment borders on insulting. I do not appreciate this.
All else you write, this could possibly be true. However, there a lot of holes in your logic.
Volume makes this very clear extreme dilution is taking place. There is no hammering. This is dilution by the company or by someone or a group holding zillions of shares.
Naked shorting, maybe. However, this literally is impossible for us to know. Volume, though, is much too high for naked shorting. I am dismissing any chance of naked shorting; too soon, too high of volume; naked shorting comes after the fact.
Market Maker manipulation, not happening. Trading is too fast and too fierce for Market Makers to keep up, to plan, to front run. This is pure high speed electronic trading, which supports this notion of extreme dilution.
Pump pr news, informal financials, news of a deal which smells of mule manure, fax blast, lots of hyped up promising words, mention of no dilution while dilution is taking place, all of this points directly to a pump and dump scam perpetrated by the brothers.
My habit is to give readers some glimmer of hope. My comment about a rally, is this hope. Weeks back, all were taunted this as "get rich quick." Now, all are desperately engaging in excuse making to make this scam go away.
There is a far outside chance of a rally in the future. I tend to doubt this but I will not deny this for readers. Doing so is less than honest.
I do not appreciate your inferred insult.
Purl Gurl
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Turning point for my opinion, from skeptical to outright labeling this a scam, is that news about a company buying twenty-five percent interest through the open markets.
That is pure mule manure. These types of business deals are _never_ cut; this is all wrong. Not only all wrong, but most likely, impossible; the float does not appear large enough to do this.
Mule manure! Common sense dictates this is just such.
Purl Gurl
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
There you are. Your intent is to level personal insults behind a poorly veiled guise of helping readers understand this stock.
You have destroyed your credibility.
Purl Gurl
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
Wow went on ihub they wont even let you post anything nagative. Theres some free speech,LMAO
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
Heck went nuts over there and they started posting them.
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
"There you are. Your intent is...."
I am crazy but not completely crazy. The article to which I refer has been deleted. Harassment articles are not welcomed here at Allstocks.
Yes, IMAKEMONEY, very typical behavior is now being displayed. They are moving into citing the "Basher's Handbook" to explain away what is going on with this stock. That handbook is an old hoax.
This current behavior is predictable and refers back to my article on observation of discussion board behavior displayed by bag holders.
This is typical masculine deep denial and mine is not sexism but rather a truthful observation of pattern typical male behavior.
Observation of discussion board behavior will lend to clues on trader perception and lend to clues on what to expect from traders.
Purl Gurl
Posted by glassman on :
OH, did i hear somebody say masculine?
Posted by BooDog on :
I came across this when I was DDing WWEN. hedging and or just groups of college kids joining to pump a stock for a while makes this a good read. Well it was for me as a newB anyway.
quote:Originally posted by glassman: OH, did i hear somebody say masculine?
Yep..you sure did..and I am begining to see that some simply have no _ _ lls!
And if any male attempts to grow them...they will be "kicked"...seems how it works around here.
Simply blows my mind!
Yep...SLJB was truly a P&D...this time...
Posted by Swing_trading101 on :
nice signature 10.. i like it ..
regarding SLJB, I did post earlier that someone was diluting it.. might be groups.. might be management.. might be naked shorting.. cant say for sure.. I canceled my bid at 0.05 and moved it to 0.04, the support line.. hope it gets there ona Friday when panic sellers and daytraders exit out of the stock for the weekend and I can average down quiet a bit into the shares I had bought at 0.09.. if it runs up.. i shall neither buy nor sell.. but hold..
Posted by a surfer on :
again same person from Ihub
when you are a company like Emaar and you are building the sizes of cities they are building, wood and cement are the 2 main components you need a consistant supply of and lots of it. Liberia wood cannot keep up with the supply demands and currently have problems. These cities are already in process, they cannot wait around until details get fixed. What to do, GO BUY A CANADIAN AUTHORIZED LUMBER EXPORT BROKER! That is all that has happened here. Sulja, fell into a septic tank and came out smelling like roses!!! There own yards in Windsor, Harrow and Lincoln Park MI can't even handle the lumber that is being shipped to UAE. This is why they broker it directly from the mill in British Columbia directly to UAE. They just buy, order the product shipped to UAE and collect the price from Emaar. The dont even handle the lumber, they handle the paper and the riches that come from it. It is just like Steel Coil Brokers for the automotive industry. Everyone was saying why would one of the largest builders in the world need a company like Sulja?. They dont need the company, THEY NEED THEIR EXPORT LICENSE!! Did Emaar not buy one of the largest home builders in the U.S.? They need their lumber from Canada and there again they need a licensed export broker, Sulja! They now own the largest building company in the U.S. AND controlling interest in the Canadian License Lumber Export Broker. This has become a controlled business working relationship all under the umbrella of Emaar!!! Emaar also announced building 2 more cities so where do you think they are going to get their lumber from? Yep. Canada! The Canadian Mills are going to see Sulja's financials and they will get all the credit they need with the mills and Emaar will therefore get all lumber they need. Why in the hell would someone come along and hand out $25 million in financing and offer to buy up 25% of the company you are lending money too. So you can control the company! Emaar through its affiliations bought Sulja's Canadian Export lumber License. Again, I just can't believe no one figured this out and I am no genious so I will say do your own DD and believe nothing I said!
This is posted from the other board.. It has intrigued me. Thought I would share. After more DD makes quite good sense. If we could get some audited #s to back everything up I would feel better, but in the mean time I will watch. Mike
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Looks this one might fall to the four cent range today. Moving very close, for so early in the market day. We shall learn by market close.
Anyone willing to continue arguing how stupid I am for suggesting to "wait and see" on this one?
Just about "I told you so" time, yes?
Purl Gurl
Posted by leavenart on :
"Anyone willing to continue arguing how stupid I am"
Not me!
Posted by weekendwarrior1 on :
Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd. Releases Asset Transfer Update WINDSOR, ON -- (MARKET WIRE) -- August 11, 2006 -- Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd. (PINKSHEETS: SLJB) has received clearance from the Dubai Government to move the Sulja Bros. assets to the State of Nevada. Sulja Bros. attorneys have paid all creditors and liens on the assets being moved. The attorneys, working with the auditors, have produced the balance sheet, which was the last piece of information needed to complete the audit.
CEO Steve Sulja stated: "The process of moving the overseas assets was time consuming but has finally been completed. We can now have the audited financials completed shortly. The State of Nevada will receive the assets by next Friday. We are very pleased to inform our shareholders of the current transfer of assets. We are actively negotiating with KPMG International and Price Waterhouse Coopers to handle all future Security and Exchange Commission filings and reporting. Our shareholders will soon see why Sulja Bros. did not need to reverse split the stock to meet our up listing goals."
This contains forward-looking information within the meaning of The Private Securities Litigation Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements may be identified through the use of words such as "expects," "will," "anticipates," "estimates," "believes," or statements indicating certain actions: "may," "could," "should" or "might occur." Such forward-looking statements involve certain risks and uncertainties. The actual result may differ materially from such forward-looking statements. The company does not undertake to publicly update or revise its forward-looking statements even if experience or future changes make it clear that any projected results (expressed or implied) will not be realized.
Posted by leavenart on :
Apparently no one has informed Price Waterhouse Coopers what a pump and dump this is. LOL
Posted by weekendwarrior1 on :
PWC doesn't have it posted yet, that i could find,
but pink sheets does have the PR..
good find WeW, hope it's a reliable PR
just keeping everybody on their toes...
since everybody is keeping score these days...
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
"Am I doomed?"
Should you follow my advice, you are certainly doomed, doomed, DOOMED!
Purl Gurl
Posted by Swing_trading101 on :
cool.. going back up.. come on 0.09.. and then 0.1... damn i wish the stock went to 0.05 today.. .. had my 5K worth bid at 0.05 ..
Posted by glassman on :
WeW, FYI? i brought it up cuz yahoo did not pick up the PR you posted...
i rarely use pinksheets.....
Posted by BooDog on :
what is the score? What game is this?
Glad it's Friday game!!!
Posted by JL on :
Looks like theyre taking a short break in selling/diluting. Probably dont want to ruin things all at once.
Posted by MoneyMaker2006 on :
Hehe Funny JL
Crazyness!
Posted by 10of13 on :
A rather interesting day..to say the least...
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
quote:Originally posted by Purl Gurl: "Am I doomed?"
Should you follow my advice, you are certainly doomed, doomed, DOOMED!
Purl Gurl
------------------------------------------------- Well well, I see the editing is back..How interesting.
Anyway you must of read my post before zap time! LOL Thoughts? Stock is moving up, the one removed.
Posted by glassman on :
and documented...
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: and documented...
------------------------------------------------- What in the hell is this supposed to mean?
Posted by glassman on :
it means it's saved...
this is the SLJB thread?
there has been a lot of complaining about poor moderation....
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: it means it's saved...
this is the SLJB thread?
there has been a lot of complaining about poor moderation....
------------------------------------------------ What is saved, be specific.
Posted by glassman on :
this is not off-topics...
this the SLJB thread...
for SLJB DD.......
Posted by 10of13 on :
Flipped this today...kept a few shares to hold...looking for another dip to buy more...
GLTA! and always protect your capital...!
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: this is not off-topics...
this the SLJB thread...
for SLJB DD.......
------------------------------------------------- Ok, lets get the rules straight... First, you did not answer my question "what was documented".. Second, are we to understand we cannot comment on other stocks on just this thread, or all threads?
Posted by glassman on :
you'd be surprised what people complain about....
yes... many complaints are filed when spammers come into a thread and post about other stocks...
and? i have no obligation to answer any of your questions...
Posted by cassity on :
Very confident in this stock. Time will show, who will have to eat crow. GLT me. ha Posted by weekendwarrior1 on :
acually ppl, purl was pretty pin point on her advice of the PPS going down, and waiting to possible buying in...i remember that post, i dont agree w.her opinion that this may be a P&D, but she may of missed the mark by a penny or so...but still she was right when telling ppl they may want to wait...i wish i would of flipped it on her advice..sold at .12 and got back in around .06 and double my investment..but oh well...GLTA
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Yup keep deleting my posts...that makes some real sense. Purl Gurl has said in her posts that she believes that this a pump and dump, and is it too early to say "I told you so" and you guys allow this. Unbelievable, the stock was up today, things are looking good. Audited financials are coming soon, and you let Purl Gurl taunt us, then delete my harmless post.
Posted by leavenart on :
Get used to it Stocktrader. She's the boss here.
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
No she is not, just be real and your post wont be deleted.
Posted by leavenart on :
I'm as real as it gets bud; check my posts. I just have a low tolerance for arrogance and people who can dish it out, but whine like sissy's when someone has the temerity to question their view.
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Are they having a little fun? Is that why she's got the power. LOL
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
Good for you leavenart.
Posted by glassman on :
what do people really want here....
discussing stock or trading insults?
feel insulted? report it....
the mods will respond/react apropriately if they agree, and ignore it if they don't
Posted by BooDog on :
gotta love the double feature here
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
I like the intermission cartoons. Very funny!
Purl Gurl
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: what do people really want here....
discussing stock or trading insults?
feel insulted? report it....
the mods will respond/react apropriately if they agree, and ignore it if they don't
Silly question...wait..that might be "taken" the wrong way...
I'd like to talk stocks...insults don't quite cut it...
Unfortunately Glass...part of the "problem"?...Appears "sometimes", some of the "mods" can be a little "bias"... I guess we need to realize the mods are human...
They are...aren't they?
Posted by BooDog on :
Even sanity has its limits 10. Gotta cut loose a little. Reality will always slap you when it's time.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by BooDog: Even sanity has its limits 10. Gotta cut loose a little. Reality will always slap you when it's time.
Sanity? We're playing pennies...this is Sanity? LOL... Great to "joke" and banter back and forth...helps "ease" the "stress"...
Posted by BooDog on :
so why not push this into the micro threads? Someone think this could hit the big board? true 10 joking is good banter and digging are not....
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by glassman: what do people really want here....
discussing stock or trading insults?
feel insulted? report it....
the mods will respond/react apropriately if they agree, and ignore it if they don't
Silly question...wait..that might be "taken" the wrong way...
I'd like to talk stocks...insults don't quite cut it...
Unfortunately Glass...part of the "problem"?...Appears "sometimes", some of the "mods" can be a little "bias"... I guess we need to realize the mods are human...
They are...aren't they?
As far as I know? I'm the only mod who says, "ya, I'm a mod."
Surely no one thinks my responses are "programmed" artificial intelligence...
Posted by 10of13 on :
Well Tex?...I've been meanin' to ask... Just teasin'...
Seems you've been "out" lately...busy in the real world...not missin much here...
Posted by glassman on :
surely Tex, you didn't miss my "outing" by my "friend"...
Posted by T e x on :
10...
yup: when called to the job? I'm a gonna go...
***********
glassy-eyed...
doh! I *can* read, lol...but for background? I was here, what?? about 6-8 weeks as a newb and I knew who the mods were...
LOFL...and ONE? I do *not* miss... Posted by glassman on :
lotsa t-storm t'night... so i' won't be on long ... just logged back in...
about 6-8 weeks as a newb and I knew who the mods were
knew? i don't think so...
strongly beleived? maybe? keith wasn't shy about it... he was even listed... and he bragged about it... i never did it for any other reason than that i was asked...
i find it interesting how often people assume everybdoy observes the same things they do...
those people in that thread? maybe betting babe knew/guessed...... but i only ever told two people beside the other mods...
i argue as much as anybody here ever...more than most anyway, and
never deleted anybody i was arguing with till this past week... and i maintained 4 stars because i have always been respectful, even when arguing
Posted by cassity on :
glass and tex, I'm glad both of you are mods. Keep up the good work and please do not ever let our boards become like IHUB. Thanks FELLAS.
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
Tex provides a programmed response,
"Surely no one thinks my responses are 'programmed' artificial intelligence..."
I know better. I wrote your software.
Purl Gurl
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
"and i maintained 4 stars because i have always been respectful, even when arguing" ------------------------------------------------- "always?" good grief should I post evidence to the contrary..LOL
Moderators should exuse themselves from moderating stocks they hold a position in...
Hypocracy of self entitlement?
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by Dustoff 1: "and i maintained 4 stars because i have always been respectful, even when arguing" ------------------------------------------------- "always?" good grief should I post evidence to the contrary..LOL
Moderators should excuse themselves from moderating stocks they hold a position in...
Hypocracy of self entitlement?
LOL...
"always?" good grief should I post evidence to the contrary..LOL
do it... make a list and post it in off-topics... only don't pullanything from off-topics..just in stock picks.
this still does not address the issue that you decided to break trust... and you did it on purpose.. ..
moderator? not self entitlement..
this job sux...
maybe you are putting your own "spin" on the job...
your friends expect you to delete "those other" peoples posts they don't like, and your other friends accuse you of deleting their picks and other things to make 'em look bad...
and everybody else complains that some people are getting "special" treatment
accusing me of being a childish unethical moderator is just wierd...
PG says i don't moderate enough, you say i pick on you?
LOL...
the fact that you feel the need to accuse me shows how you are being manipulated by others for their ends...
there were two reason why i didn't want to be IDed as a moderator...
one? moderators do get undue respect...and attention... two? this exact problem: delusional people accuse them of all kinds of odd things....
when i was actively posting picks here?
i welcomed people to allstocks..
lately? you have been chasing them off..
this unethical behaviour accusation is a serious insult... i doubt you are thinking well....
Posted by Swing_trading101 on :
I am a part of "everybody else" Posted by glassman on :
yes RM... except i noticed that you don't whine...
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
"i doubt you are thinking well"....
glassman, your insulting ways are noted... Get a life...
Some are home because of doctors orders, you chose a life of endlessly posting and trying to shore up your ego.
Ever thought about maybe going out into the real world, ya know the place where people hold job's and work?
Posted by glassman on :
LOL....
now you think you know me...
be careful... you are beginning to walk into uncharted territory...
stalking is considered a felony... i am doing a job here.. leave me alone...
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: LOL....
now you think you know me...
be careful... you are beginning to walk into uncharted territory...
stalking is considered a felony...
------------------------------------------------- Monday I will contact the Attorneys Generals office for the State of Oregon..
You continually provoke me, knowing full well that you could cause me harm by making me lose my temper...This inturn makes my Atrial Fib and severe heart condition act up on me..Twice I have had to reach for Nitro pills..It is documented by a non family member..
It is a felony to knowingly cause harm to a Handicaped person..
I am done with you, leave me alone..
Posted by BooDog on :
sounds like you guys need to turn off the putter and go grill some burgers. And some good whiskey!
Posted by glassman on :
gee boo? who would do the babysitting then?
Posted by glassman on :
time to start a new thread...
anybody who wishes to may start it..
i will not....
this one will be locked and linked..
this is the second time we have had to do this now...
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