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Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I am a relative newbie holding more stocks than I should have. With 28 holdings, only ONE isn't in the red. [Frown] Some are way down. I've got to decide which to hold and which to fold before hubby sees this mess! Some of them, I know have no further hope (STTK, VWKM), but some of them, I'd like opinions on. Here's a sampling:

AMEP
CBAY
FMLY
FPPL
XLPI

TIA,
Jo
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
hang for the weekend...

by Sunday afternoon you should have some good ideas...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
A few ?
1) How much time do you have to "trade" a day?
2) Do you have L2's
3) What is your trading style?

First comment...for a newbie..IMO you have too many "positions"
 
Posted by Relentless Despot. on :
 
AMEP in the short term is headed down to .06 where it has support.
You might get lucky and have it bounce one more time.. but at this point it has assumed a pretty flawless Descending Triangle.
This means a break down is more than probable.

CBAY.. beats me.. chart looks bearish.. but still iffy

FMLY looks good.. nice bouncer with a defined range.. sell at the top, around .20 to .22, and buy around .14 or so.

FPPL in the midst of a bounce.. It will most likely stop the bounce at or around .0125..
This is a bearish stock which is bouncing off support on it's way down don't be afraid to sell it.

XLPI... dunno.. chart is kind of crappy.. might go a bit higher.

Overall lesson?
Learn charting
and don't hold these or any stocks for very long at all..
Good luck.

[ July 14, 2006, 22:40: Message edited by: Relentless Despot. ]
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Jo, a preface. Share price on any given stock
can change severely because of company events,
news, pumping, dilution, whatever. You must
watch closely, several times a day, to monitor
for any events which may change share price.

I have looked over the companies, type of business,
track record, financials and all that. I will not
discuss those here. You may ask for a discussion
on a specific stock, but I would rather not write
a bunch of books; expect very brief comments.

Based on current status, today's status, this
is what I would do if holding these stocks.

AMEP - hold 30 to 45 days for .08 - .085 share price - sell
CBAY - hold for 6 months then decide
FMLY - sell on Monday regardless of price
FPPL - hold for 1 to 4 weeks, sell at .01 per
XLPI - hold for 1 to 4 weeks, sell at .015 - .018

Although in bad financial condition, CBAY has
the most potential. I know real estate inside
and out. Should CBAY carry through with their
business plan, successfully, this one has very
good potential. Currently, very bad shape.

You must stop chasing after pump and dump scams.

Pick some reliable people here and follow their
lead. Tex, Dustoff, Jordan, Ten, Relentless,
Glassman and especially Blue_in_MI. There are
others whose monikers escape me for the moment.

Hold your big board stocks. Do not sell those.
Given six months to a year, those will do fine.

Work on extracting yourself from loser stocks.
Hold your cash, do not buy more. Build up your
cash reserves and wait. In time, some of us
will guide you through flipping so you can
make good money, quickly. You must have a good
amount of cash available, minimum five-thousand.

I will comment more as this thread moves along.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
A strategy, Jo, for those working with your
conditions, is to cut losses very soon, hold
your cash, learn more about trading while
holding your cash, then make very careful
choices based on extensive research.

Bottom line, get together as much cash as
possible, pay attention to what trustworthy
people are doing, do what they do.

Your best hope to earn money quickly is flipping.
This is extremely risky but many here will help.

Read all articles here at Allstocks, all articles
at this Hot Stocks board and the Newbie Help
board. Do NOT visit the under .10 board. I am
very serious, never visit there. Stats will show
nine point five out ten stocks at that board are
dire losers. Simply stay away from there. If
you visit, you will be tempted and make mistakes.

Do NOT visit any other boards.

Seriously, do NOT visit the under .10 board here
and do NOT visit any other boards.

Should you find a stock you think is ok, come
back to your thread, this one, and post the
ticker and ask for help. We will help. Do not
buy any stock until you "clear" that stock here.

If you follow my advice, you will learn more about
stocks in a few months than other people will
learn in ten years. You must trust us, those who
have suggested this thread to you, elsewhere.

This will become a very long thread affording
much learning for all. Expect pump and dump
scamsters and trouble makers to show up. You
will be warned about them. Heed those warnings.

Do not listen to anyone but those you know
can be trusted.

We will make you rich given enough time and trust.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"Ten" is 10 of 13. She can be trusted, completely.
Ten is a smart cookie and plays this straight.
She will not lie to you nor mislead you.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
Jo, I am not good at playing stock on momentum... but am fairly decent on charts.. based on charts I shall try and give you some insight on your holdings..

AMEP: long term, bullish crossover.. short term.. might go sideways around the 200 day MACD.. the day it wont touch 0.066, would be your signal to sell from this point. 0.073-0.074 would be a good sell point for this stock for now. things are happening for the company based on june 30th PR. so you might just want to hold it for stock to meet either of the criteria and based on that, sell it..

CBAY: Unfortunate that everyone beleived crap like short squeeze so on and so forth, made profits when everybody bouught and then left noobs with bags. well, for CBAY, it has hit double bottom, so will have slight rebound from here IMO. on any day, if it closes below 0.28, sell it. else, look for 0.38-0.405, and sell it anywhere between those points based on the profit/loss margin you feel comfortable.

fmly: i read a lot on fmly threads that this is one of the best long term holds.. I havent done any real DD on this.. anyways.. from the charts.. i see it might be going back up. look for sale of 0.0165 with decent profit from here if holding it doesnt make you very comfortable. look for close below 0.014 and consider it as a selling point to prevent stop loss.

fppl had a good day today. look for 0.09-0.095 on monday as an exit point with profits. it will gap up and have a slight run on Monday before it goes down or aactually it might see all the way to 0.01 and upwards based on momentum and hype.. look for close below 0.045 if you want to prevent stop loss..

xlpi: look for a close below 0.012 and consider it as a sell point to prevent stop loss. look for 0.0155-0.016 as a good sell point with slight profits.

these are my opinions if I were you, i would be doing these.. they might not be applicable to you purely because of different styles of trading.. GLTY!
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Jo, here is your first warning.

Do not trust Ruskin_Muskin.

People will become angry about my warnings.
Tough luck. You have asked for help and this
help will be provided with blunt honesty.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
A strategy, Jo, for those working with your
conditions, is to cut losses very soon, hold
your cash, learn more about trading while
holding your cash, then make very careful
choices based on extensive research.

Bottom line, get together as much cash as
possible, pay attention to what trustworthy
people are doing, do what they do.

Your best hope to earn money quickly is flipping.
This is extremely risky but many here will help.

Read all articles here at Allstocks, all articles
at this Hot Stocks board and the Newbie Help
board. Do NOT visit the under .10 board. I am
very serious, never visit there. Stats will show
nine point five out ten stocks at that board are
dire losers. Simply stay away from there. If
you visit, you will be tempted and make mistakes.

Do NOT visit any other boards.

Seriously, do NOT visit the under .10 board here
and do NOT visit any other boards.

Should you find a stock you think is ok, come
back to your thread, this one, and post the
ticker and ask for help. We will help. Do not
buy any stock until you "clear" that stock here.

If you follow my advice, you will learn more about
stocks in a few months than other people will
learn in ten years. You must trust us, those who
have suggested this thread to you, elsewhere.

This will become a very long thread affording
much learning for all. Expect pump and dump
scamsters and trouble makers to show up. You
will be warned about them. Heed those warnings.

Do not listen to anyone but those you know
can be trusted.

We will make you rich given enough time and trust.

Purl Gurl

You are nuts! I have made 80% on my portfolio in the past two weeks only based on picks on the .10 under forum. PRDPONCE has been unstoppable and JIMSC is the man. You just need to pick the right ones from their lists.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
Jo, here is your first warning.

Do not trust Ruskin_Muskin.

People will become angry about my warnings.
Tough luck. You have asked for help and this
help will be provided with blunt honesty.

Purl Gurl

lol.. tell me what was wrong in my post purl [Smile] .. I challenge you to counter me as to why you think anything i have posted on Jo's holdings are wrong and I shall not post on this thread anymore.. a good idea would be to be objective on a stock rather than holding personal vendatta against a particular poster [Smile]
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Jo, I would like you to set aside $800 if you can.
I will not ask about your financial condition.
Doing so is inappropriate.

Each market day, place a day limit order for
ten-thousand shares of PGPU at .08 per share.
Do NOT exceed that price. Chances are your
order will never be filled, but there is
a very slight chance. You must buy no less
than ten-thousand shares at .08 per share,
or lower if a chance comes up.

If filled, instantly turn around and sell at
a price of .09 per share. This will sell
very quickly. You will earn $90 after paying
your commission fees.

PGPU - try to buy every single day without fail.

Should ALMI dip to a range of 1.55 to 1.60 per
share, buy all you can afford. Wait one to two
weeks then sell at 1.72 to 1.76 per share. You
must buy two-thousand or more shares to make
this a worthwhile return on your money.

IESV, if this dips to .046 to .048, buy at
least forty-thousand shares, wait one to
two weeks, sell at at .056 to .058 per. Clear
at least one cent per share, no less. You
will earn about $300 to $400 on this. IESV
will not crash on you, nor move up much.

TCLL, more of a risk, high risk actually.
Try to buy two-thousand shares or more at
a price no higher than .26 or .27 per share.
No higher than that. Then sit on it until
we begin talking about it. This one is about
a fifty-fifty chance of good profit. With
your current conditions, I lean towards your
not buying this one until you have extra cash.
If to buy, you must buy within one to two weeks,
well before a run in anticipation of their next
10Q due very soon. Maybe just watch this one;
risks are present.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
A warning about a second person is quite obvious, Jo.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
idea!

let's see what Jo thinks, posted so far...

make sense?
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
* frowns *

You know I cannot keep my mouth shut.

Just delivered a very hot '67 Camaro convertable
down to the bottom of our hill. A show car which
kicks and gets. Woke up the neighbors! Electric
headers, wide open, laid down about fifty feet of
black rubber out front, nice short burn hitting
second gear.

I love it when a hot rod fishtails around when
you romp on it.

Our daughter has placed me on two weeks restriction.

It was worth it!

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Relentless Despot. on :
 
I was going to warn Jo about you.. sadly I hadn't the chance before you rushed in to fill the page with paragraph after paragraph of usefull info..
I fear that is now over as I sense a story coming on.
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Sherie, of our Sherie and Monique French lesbian
fame, once said to me, "Taha, vous êtes plein du
trivia inutile!"

"Taha, you are full of useless trivia!"

She was complimenting me but kinda lost
the feeling in translation.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by fourseven on :
 
Jo... perhaps if you don't fell confident, try paper trading. Pretend you're playing with a limited amount of money, try to make it realistic. Pick stocks you think are going to do well, note the date and price and why you think it's a good buy. Keep a notebook of these "trades". This way you can go back, and examine your successes and failures.

Being new at something means you'll make mistakes. Notice them, notice the ones that repeat. Make this a learning experience.

Above all, trust yourself. Don't listen to most of the crap we say here -- people get emotional, wound up, take things personally, try to convince others of their opinions... it's a lot of noise. There are a few people here who are solid, keep an eye on the threads and you'll know who's worth their salt.

Look back at some older threads here (esp. those that span several months), read the posts, and looking at the dates compare with the chart for the stock they're discussing. It's funny as hell, and educational most of the time. You see plainly what mistakes people make, and how you're apt to make these yourself.

Hope, greed, fear, despair, patience. Observe yourself, observe how and when these qualities come into play -- it will tell you a lot about where the successes and failures come from.

Learn to read the charts -- start with basics of technical analysis. Trends, support/resistance, volume -- these should be always kept in mind, these are the foundations.

Observe the general market -- the major indices are your friends. Go with the trends, not against them. If the market is in a down trend, chances are that long positions won't fare well. Within the market, watch the sectors -- the money is always being moved around, when some sectors are bearish, others are bullish. When there's red across the board, hold your cash.

As far as your current positions... sometimes you just have to cut your losses. It hurts, but it saves you money in the long run.

Of the stocks you mentioned, I'd salvage AMEP and FPPL, and part with the rest. But that's just my uneducated opinion after a quick glance at the charts.
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
4&7, notice you are new...The following may help you find Allstocks has a tremendness talent base...There is a growing handful of people who are worthy of your trust.

4&7 says: "Don't listen to most of the crap we say here --"

I say, "Stand to close to the tree? you can't see the rest of the Forest".
Also, crude? but does apply, "Don't throw the Baby out with the bath water".

Jo", We have posters around here who worked for the SEC, probably some old time inside trading house folks as well..We also have a "Real Criminal element from time to time....

The Whale' is not kidding! She has repeatedly drawn the sidewinders out..She paints with a Broad" ha ha Purl----> wide brush, she teaches with an IRON FIST.

me has spoken many times with a retired SEC department head...He is gone now, but those from the old CMKX, & QBID Wars know of whom I speak...

In a personal phone call way over a yr now, he recomended to me that I pay close attention to the Whale, If memeory serves me correct, he said the "lady really knows her chit". That was enough recomend for me...You see I also have tangled with the whale! But of course I won cause' me is a Macho man, hell I can eat garbage cans for breakfast! Sail the seven sea's with ez!
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"Stand to close to the tree? you can't see the rest of the Forest"

In the case of men, you simply splatter on your feet.

"hell I can eat garbage cans for breakfast!"

I eat ten ton garbage trucks for breakfast then
use railroad ties to pick my teeth.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
"I eat ten ton garbage trucks for breakfast then
use railroad ties to pick my teeth."

ya but! a whale can't peeee from from Mauna Kea onto Mauna Loa and put out 'Pele! me can, so there..
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
why does every thread turn into general discussion forum? there is a seperate section in allstocks provided for exactly the same purpose. I feel a thread should be limited to its purpose rather than hijacked for general discussions. useless to pour over 40 pages of a thread with little or no substance and all we have to see is who ate what or who crappd where.. it would be good if all these discussions are done in off topic section of the board. thats just my opinion!!!
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Will comment on some the posts so far. Thanks everyone for caring.

quote:
10 of 13 wrote: A few ?
1) How much time do you have to "trade" a day?
2) Do you have L2's
3) What is your trading style?

First comment...for a newbie..IMO you have too many "positions"

I agree that I have too many positions. I am trying to rectify that. I made a few good decisions last week. Got rid of PBLS at .032 and RMDG at .0016. Also sold half my XKEM at .52. Took small loss on PBLS, big loss on XKEM, even on RMDG.

I have a lot of time during the day to trade. Although, the past few weeks, I have been so trying to dig myself out of the hole, that I have been spending way too much time online to the detriment of other family things. I want to get out of this habit, and so I would say that I want to get to a point of maybe 2 hours per day.

I have L2's with Ameritrade, but not on all stocks.

quote:
Stocktrade22 You are nuts! I have made 80% on my portfolio in the past two weeks only based on picks on the .10 under forum. PRDPONCE has been unstoppable and JIMSC is the man. You just need to pick the right ones from their lists.
Stocktrader22, I understand what Purl is saying. Yes, people can make lots of money following some of the people in the under .10 board. In fact, I made some money on FHAL a few days ago, and then promptly bought more with my profits and now I'm at a loss again. I think what Purl is saying is that right now, I do not need to try for any more get rich quick stocks. It's not that these folks aren't making money, it's that *I* am not experienced enough to know when to get in and when to get out. This has been my problem all along. I made some great "Profits" on some of these stocks. However, they weren't truly profits because I didn't sell....now they are losses.


quote:
Relentless wrote: FPPL in the midst of a bounce.. It will most likely stop the bounce at or around .0125..
This is a bearish stock which is bouncing off support on it's way down don't be afraid to sell it.

quote:
Purl wrote: FPPL - hold for 1 to 4 weeks, sell at .01 per
This was one of my worst buys. I bought at .024. So if it does get to .0125, I'm still at a 50% loss. But I only put $500.00 in it, so I guess I could at least get $250.00 back! Right now, it only has $160.00 in there, so it seems kind of pointless to sell now. (I have a few like that) Do you think that with oil prices rising that there might be some hope of higher prices?

quote:
Ruskin Muskin Wrote: xlpi: look for a close below 0.012 and consider it as a sell point to prevent stop loss. look for 0.0155-0.016 as a good sell point with slight profits.
quote:
Purl wrote: XLPI - hold for 1 to 4 weeks, sell at .015 - .018
Funny thing is before I bought this, I watched it. Nearly every other day, it went from .0013 to .0017 or .0018. Sometimes it went as high as .0020. I decided to put a buy order in for .0013. Took many days to fill. Finally, it filled, and now, of course, it hasn't gone past .0014 since I bought it! This is how my trading goes. Seems I can't win for losing. Thanks for the advice on this. I've set a sell point for .0017.

There's a lot of info now in this thread, and I appreciate so many of you trying to help me out. I can keep you posted on my progress. And I as I get rid of some of these, I shall post some more.

Jo
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
PS: Quick question:

I realize now that I SHOULD have cut losses when things got below a 20% loss. However, that's a lesson learned and now I have things that are way beyond that.

As a general rule, at what percentage of loss should you just hold it since selling would bring so little cash? -50%, -60%, -75%, -93% ( [Eek!] LOL, yes, I DO Have one that is -93% NNRF)

Thanks,
Jo
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Some times the answer to selling at such a loss is yes...but not knowing all of the stocks that you have and the time frame that it may take to get them to a little higher PPS...the answer is not known...

I am of the opinion that if you bought some of these on a "pump" they may never go back to where you bought them...so sell and take the "good $" to start increasing your Capital...

You need a "game plan" at this point and then On Monday start your game plan...

Maybe list some more of the stocks and also the purchase price??

Let's see what others will say...these guys will help you through... [Smile]
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
Jo, about stoploss, I keep mine generally limited to 10%, if the stock is purely running on hype and good charts. if the company is awaiting news like fhal last week, I give it a little leeway and increase it by another 5% and make stop loss at 15%. NEVER more than 15%, becuase there are many more winners out there. Charts reveal it out flat as to how low a stock can go and what your stop loss factor can be most of the times.

About profits, on any single holding, I hardly expect more than 10%-20% profit. I then pull my capital and sometimes alltogether, except if the chart is overly bullish, let my profits ride based on chart. my gains are severely limited anywhere between 10-25% because of this strategy (assuming the stock doesnt take a plunge like xkem on July 1st).

NNRF was a pure pump and dump. unfortunately some more trusted guys like subennyradio were also involevd in the pump. a lot of investors lost out on SFDE/NNRF and many other plays of SPR. so key is to just trust yourself and the charts, because everyone here might lie but charts never lie [Smile] . and yes, XLPI will take quiet a while to get to 0.017. it went to 0.017 daily because it was holding onto 200 MACD support. now it has fallen from 200 MACD, and that shall act as its new resistance.
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
about paid pumper sites:

Many of them front load, start a volume increase before they announce and sell into the upward movement, then they release the PR..Time it just right? Payday...

But now folks are far more conservative in there buying into the hype..Seasoned traders know what will happen..Down after the high of the PR..I generaly "always search out the source of PR'S before even looking at profile or a chart..Time? into the SEC tab on Ameritrade.

I stay outa trouble following my "rules, when I break my own rules, I generaly get my head tore off in a stock deal..

RM, settle down and don't get so wound up at the fart of seagull..Man, you spook easy. We will put our thoughts down, more so when you antaganize...Haven't you learned yet that the process of getting a character assessment on some posters is their reaction to coments...

Keeping this thread going in this forum is what needs to be done..The action is in here not out in "gravel path" territory.

edited for spleling..

[ July 15, 2006, 11:40: Message edited by: Dustoff 1 ]
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
oh and btw..get rid of NNRF if you already havent!!!!

Regarding some basics of charts.. look at the videos on this page. its from another forum but will equip you with some of the very basics of TA.

http://www.****************/penny-stocks-momentum-stocks/6445-************-penny -stock-free-tutorials.html

for papertrading.. this might be useful

http://simulator.investopedia.com/myportfolio/SearchGames.aspx?S=1&T=the%20green %20team

Regarding pennystock trading... heres a great article of which I have taken printout and stuck it on the wall. I found it here in allstocks when I was a newbie, but havent been able to find it in search offlate.However, I have it posted in another forum of whose link I am posting here. I read it very often. luckily, for me, the number of times I read it is decreasing substantially offlate.

http://www.**************.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36857

Regarding some books on successful trading, I have heard Toni turners books are pretty good. I am going to barnes and nobles to read it over the weekend and shall post reviews here on Sunday evening.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
read stars as follows without spaces

1) http://www.s t o c k h i d e o u t .com/penny-stocks-momentum-stocks/6445-s t o c k h i d e o u t-penny-stock-free-tutorials.html

2) http://www.h o t s t o c k m a r k e t .com/forums/showthread.php?t=36857
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
I will be posting a few of my picks that went up to 400% gains and then held..many were Nasdaq picks, I posted them mostly here on the Hot stocks...

Here's a couple..."Having a problem pulling up the old threads..

EVST posted at $5.71 hit $20.63
NAVI ''''''''' at $1.25 hit $5.59
MYOG ''''''''' at $20.85 hit $42.27
RNAI ''''''''' at $3.00 hit $8.52

[ July 15, 2006, 12:31: Message edited by: Dustoff 1 ]
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
My comments on trusting or not trusting select
people has nothing to do with a person being
a good person nor a bad person, nothing to do
with a person being smart nor ignorant, nothing
to do with being nice nor mean.

My branding select individuals as not trustworthy
is based solely on displayed knowledge and known
degree of experience. Nothing more.

If you do not have at least five to ten years
experience at intense stock trading, you have no
business providing advice to others.

This year, I am sitting on twenty-six years
of experience in trading stocks, very actively.

I tend to believe there are none here who can
equal my experience nor my knowledge.

I do not mince my words. Those who do not like
my blunt honesty, go cry baby to your momma.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Purl, most of my winners I caught on volume alerts....Blind luck..
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Trying to point out, do not forget the Nasdaq, Amex, Dow.

Some say, they cost to much, can't get enough shrs. Well, I guess they do not understand percentages.
 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
Just a note on XLPI they have a lot going on. Small volumes but a solid support should keep this level with a little growth. I have a small position in this also and they are putting things together nicely. good dd available.

as of july 12th, 2006:Authorized: 700,000,000.
Outstanding: 387,563,794
Restricted: 162,668,512
Float: 171,891,966

I'm on a 4 week short term hold for now.
My opinions don't count for much as I have only started real trading recently myself. I have just finished recovering from the exact same thing you are now, but I started at less than 1k. Good luck. This forum has saved my azz twice already since April.
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
"I'm on a 4 week short term hold for now."

That can be a life time in an OTC..
 
Posted by Tradintexas on :
 
4 days seems to long for me!
 
Posted by Relentless Despot. on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
PS: Quick question:

I realize now that I SHOULD have cut losses when things got below a 20% loss. However, that's a lesson learned and now I have things that are way beyond that.

As a general rule, at what percentage of loss should you just hold it since selling would bring so little cash? -50%, -60%, -75%, -93% ( [Eek!] LOL, yes, I DO Have one that is -93% NNRF)

Thanks,
Jo

Depends on how you are playing.. what your style is.
I'm strictly a chart player, so any loss more than ten percent for me is too much unless I know I'm getting into a trade too early.
Purl's style of F/A is inherently a longer term hold and therefore you must be prepared to possibly hold through a larger loss.
Alot of it is feel..
If I get into a trade and I realize I'm wrong, I don't wait for a set percentage before I exit...
I rely on trend lines quite a bit..
 
Posted by RENTLESS DEPOST on :
 
HMM
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
monkey when are you going to learninnin spleling?
 
Posted by RENTLESS DEPOST on :
 
NEVER! Hated school.
 
Posted by Tradintexas on :
 
IN reference to the buy PGPU*.08 and flip*.09 this morning i could have bought at .05 and sold at.08 so you never know?
 
Posted by Tradintexas on :
 
IN reference to the buy PGPU*.08 and flip*.09 this morning i could have bought at .05 and sold at.08 so you never know?
 
Posted by RENTLESS DEPOST on :
 
popcorn time.
 
Posted by Tradintexas on :
 
AS far as PGPU buying at.08 and selling .09 how bout buying at .05 and selling at .08 like the 14th
 
Posted by Relentless Despot. on :
 
Wouldn't touch it at all...
Strong downtrend and you might get caught holding when it does take a substantial drop
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
well well well, the game is a foot....
RD, we have a lttle visiter, shall we welcome him?
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
RD, looks like 2 monkeys...
 
Posted by RENTLESS DEPOST on :
 
He didnt get it the first time dust.
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Ok, here we go.........Tradin read this thread from begining to end...If you are smart you just might get an idea of what you are in for, Ka-pish?
 
Posted by Tradintexas on :
 
sorry about the multiple reply's.
 
Posted by Tradintexas on :
 
i have been reading for weeks ive read most of the threads
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
Tradein Texas...
which part of Texas?

you are obviously new to allstocks and the market...
welcome to allstocks...

the only people who could have bought at .05 and sold at .08 are the market makers...
YOU could not have,
unless?

you have got yourself set up as a market maker...
have you got yourself set up as an MM?

i need a friend thats' an MM [Smile]
 
Posted by Tradintexas on :
 
glas i hear you know what your doing!San Antonio
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
That's crazy to say you can't give somebody advice unless you have 5-10 years experience. If a newbie is about to make a mistake, and you can help, but you only have 1 year experience, who cares. And I don't think it's your "Blunt Honesty" that people don't like, it's your arrogance, patronizing, and contradictions.

quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
My comments on trusting or not trusting select
people has nothing to do with a person being
a good person nor a bad person, nothing to do
with a person being smart nor ignorant, nothing
to do with being nice nor mean.

My branding select individuals as not trustworthy
is based solely on displayed knowledge and known
degree of experience. Nothing more.

If you do not have at least five to ten years
experience at intense stock trading, you have no
business providing advice to others.

This year, I am sitting on twenty-six years
of experience in trading stocks, very actively.

I tend to believe there are none here who can
equal my experience nor my knowledge.

I do not mince my words. Those who do not like
my blunt honesty, go cry baby to your momma.

Purl Gurl


 
Posted by glassman on :
 
a lot of poeple here know what they are doing...

San Antonio nice...

i'm up on the MS LA ARK border area....
middle of nowhere... blahhh..
we get your weather the next day usually..
 
Posted by Tradintexas on :
 
thanks for being easy on me as you can tell i am new. iread a whole lot but not first hand experience.thats about to change.i would personally like you to look at UBDE and tell me why?and should it be watched?
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
sorry...
i'm not posting any picks....

however?
i will give a great place to look at your stocks...

i never hold a stock overnight with out looking here:

http://www.nasdaq.com/asp/quotes_sec.asp?mode=&kind=&symbol=STTC&symbol=UBDE&sym bol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&FormType=&mkttype=& pathname=&page=filings&selected=UBDE


you can use this site to look at most any stock worth holding overnite...

good luck...
Texas is a great state...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
10 of 13 thank you for your advice, I have been trying to clarify the day trading rule. I called Scottrade and still didn't get a good explaination. I will give an example tell me if this is bad for my situation. I own CHDT. On Monday it goes up to .2 and I sell. Later that same day I buy back in. After buying back in on Monday, I hold until Tuesday and sell again after it goes up. I again buy back in later that day. Will this become a problem. I would love to flip stocks more often but not having 25k in my account I'm afraid of getting in trouble. I've had many oppertunities to make money this way, instead I end up taking a loss. Any advice from anyone would be great. Purl and others thank you for taking the time to help those of us who are less "stock" smart.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
One more thing to go with last post. If I'm doing the same thing with different stocks, will that be a problem?
 
Posted by Relentless Despot. on :
 
a day trade is also called a round trip by brokers.. This means that you buy and then sell in one trading day.
The example you posted would not be a day trade.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
So on Friday I bought two seperate stocks. I sold both stocks that same day, does that count for 2 strikes against me.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
technically (ie, SEC/NASD), the three, free round-trips you get refer to round trips in a single stock...

however, brokers may impose their own interpretations--eg, the $25k minimum balance for daytrading account: some require $30k *cuz* $25k is the minimum... Make sense? There's the regs, on the one hand, then broker intrepretations on the other...

with cash accounts? better to have two or three--a little more bookkeeping involved, but well worth it
 
Posted by Relentless Despot. on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
So on Friday I bought two seperate stocks. I sold both stocks that same day, does that count for 2 strikes against me.

yep
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
as I understand the wording of da regs, *another* round-trip in either stock--within 5 trading days--will be your second strike
 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
w
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
ya ta hey
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Relentless Despot.:
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
So on Friday I bought two seperate stocks. I sold both stocks that same day, does that count for 2 strikes against me.

yep
RD?
He bought 2 seperate stocks...that is 2 strikes? I thought that it was the same stock...not different stocks...
with etrade and choicetrade...I can trade 2 different ones and it is "OK" but the same stock would be 2 strikes in that 5 day period..and the 5 days need to be business days...not including weekends or Holidays...
 
Posted by Relentless Despot. on :
 
Not sure about individual brokers, but I've had ameriturd tell me any round trip counts...
I investigated it with them a few years ago when I really started reducing my hold times down to minutes.
Dunno if anything has changed recently either as I have changed my focus to forex where there are no such restrictions.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
10, can you find your post re regs? "same stock"?

would help...

thanks
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Relentless Despot.:
Not sure about individual brokers, but I've had ameriturd tell me any round trip counts...
I investigated it with them a few years ago when I really started reducing my hold times down to minutes.
Dunno if anything has changed recently either as I have changed my focus to forex where there are no such restrictions.

ya, that's what I'm saying about "broker interp" and hence the suggestion to have 2-3 accounts...

learn the advantages v disadvantages of each, and trade to your benefit...
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
3 accounts give's me the flexability to trade 15 daytrades in 5 buisness days...But I write date of the trade down on my White board for a fast glance..

Erase board with a dry Erase Marker in large letter's. LOL

This system has not failed me yet...
Sometimes I am in a stock for minutes, when I hit a pre-determined target? I sell when daytrading.

However toooo many times I've broken my own rule and lost money.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Tex..not sure which you are suggesting...this one?

To avoid being flagged a daytrader, you can not sell and trade the same stock more than 3x's in a 5 day period.
Buy "XYZ" and sell it the same day=not a day trader.
Buy "XYZ" on Monday and sell it on Tuesday=not a daytrader.
Buy AND sell "XYZ" more than 3x in a 5 day period= Day trader.
You can buy and sell different stocks...just not the same one.


I also agree with Dust and Tex...multiple accounts come in very handy!
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Tex..not sure which you are suggesting...this one?

To avoid being flagged a daytrader, you can not sell and trade the same stock more than 3x's in a 5 day period.
Buy "XYZ" and sell it the same day=not a day trader.
Buy "XYZ" on Monday and sell it on Tuesday=not a daytrader.
Buy AND sell "XYZ" more than 3x in a 5 day period= Day trader.
You can buy and sell different stocks...just not the same one.


I also agree with Dust and Tex...multiple accounts come in very handy!

no...

you collected one that had the *full* reg-agency definition--starts out "sounding like" any round trip triggers the day-trade thang...but when you read the entire passage, it clearly says "in the same stock."
 
Posted by Relentless Despot. on :
 
I was flagged a pattern day trader and I didn't round trip the same stock more than once.
Has to be a broker thing.. some sort of red tape they use to get more money.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Relentless Despot.:
I was flagged a pattern day trader and I didn't round trip the same stock more than once.
Has to be a broker thing.. some sort of red tape they use to get more money.

i believe that...

to me? it's "kinda like" the record-date vs ex-date thingee...

companies AND brokers get that screwed up, alla time...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Learn about NASD Rule 2520 and NYSE Rule 431
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day trading is the practice of opening and closing an equity or option position (i.e., buying and selling the same stock or option) on the same trading day. A same-day buy and sell, or a same-day sell short and buy to cover, is considered a day trade.

If you make four or more day trades in a rolling five-trading-day period, you will be considered a pattern day trader under these rules. However, if the day trading activity does not exceed six percent of your total trading activity for the five-day period in question, your account may not be designated a pattern day trading account.

If you meet the definition of a pattern day trader, you'll be required to maintain $25,000 equity in your brokerage account at all times. If your account equity falls below $25,000, a day trading minimum equity call will be issued on your account requiring you to deposit additional funds or securities.

In order to meet the $25,000 requirement, your pattern day trade account will earn credit interest on the free credit balance.

As a pattern day trader, you'll be granted day trading purchasing power up to four times your NYSE margin excess.

Pattern day trading status only applies to customers with margin accounts. The day trading rules apply only to the buying and selling of the same stocks or options on the same trading day. They do not pertain to mutual fund or bond trades and are not applicable to positions held overnight or longer.

Note:
Per NYSE Rule 431, stock transactions in cash and retirement accounts are subject to T+3 settlement. In other words, if you sell shares of stock held in your account, you may not use the proceeds to purchase another security until three market days after the trade (the settlement date of the sale). Options trades are subject to T+1 settlement.


OR CHECK HERE...

http://www.nasd.com/InvestorInformation/MarketsTrading/DayTradingInformation/NAS DW_005906
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
not the same 'stuff'

but close enough, lol...

Thank You, 10 of Good Memory
 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
I'm under the cash account rules and have heard of others getting locked into a sell only by their providers after only 3 round trips in a 5 day period. They were locked for 90 days. They said they just opened another account somewhere else though.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Just wanted to check in here and tell everyone that I am getting to read the thread and I've been checking out all the various links you all sent. I'm not feeling quite so sick to my stomach today.

And I have to comment on this:

quote:
oh and btw..get rid of NNRF if you already havent!!!!

Well, I've lost so much in that one, my entire position is worth a whopping $33.48!! I'M HOLDIN', BABY! Whoo hoo, to the moon!

[Smile]
Jo
 
Posted by LisaPizza on :
 
Will this discussion keep going, or is it done?

I am a newbie trader also, as you refer to them, I started to read this and got excited!

wanted to invest along with Jo and see what pearl girl and others could do for me.
I hope it is still open.
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Tex..not sure which you are suggesting...this one?

To avoid being flagged a daytrader, you can not sell and trade the same stock more than 3x's in a 5 day period.
Buy "XYZ" and sell it the same day=not a day trader.
Buy "XYZ" on Monday and sell it on Tuesday=not a daytrader.
Buy AND sell "XYZ" more than 3x in a 5 day period= Day trader.
You can buy and sell different stocks...just not the same one.


I also agree with Dust and Tex...multiple accounts come in very handy!

no...

you collected one that had the *full* reg-agency definition--starts out "sounding like" any round trip triggers the day-trade thang...but when you read the entire passage, it clearly says "in the same stock."

=================================================
ATTENTION: WHOOOOOPSSS----------->KE---RUMBA!

Me brain miss--fired, I must of had 5 in my mind because I recieved 5 free trades per account during the Ameritrade screw up on Friday!!!!!!!!

It is 3 roundtrip day trades per account I am allowed per account within 5 buisness days!!

Orrrrr------> 9 total roundtrip day trades with 3 accounts.....per 5 buisness days

Well, I corrected my error before somebody was done harm.........I hope! LOL

Here's the funny part....On my white board, big as life-------> 3+5=done!update after trade! not kidding, lower right hand corner of my white board.

Now if I can only find me car keys, damn middle age.

Edited for spleling & math ...LOL

[ July 16, 2006, 08:35: Message edited by: Dustoff 1 ]
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by LisaPizza:
Will this discussion keep going, or is it done?

I am a newbie trader also, as you refer to them, I started to read this and got excited!

wanted to invest along with Jo and see what pearl girl and others could do for me.
I hope it is still open.

================================================
Fear not! you can bet this will keep going, just stay tuned....Might even be some fire works once in awhile..lol
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
quote:
oh and btw..get rid of NNRF if you already havent!!!!

Well, I've lost so much in that one, my entire position is worth a whopping $33.48!! I'M HOLDIN', BABY! Whoo hoo, to the moon!

[Smile]
Jo [/QB]

That's it...keep up the smiling and laughing...you'll make it! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
yeah, if I didn't try to laugh at it all, I'd be doing nothing but crying!

Jo
PS: to Lisa, the thread will keep going. It's the weekend...folks are out living life.
 
Posted by DOUBLE L on :
 
One more tip I never hear anybody talk about is call the transfer agent for a share count every week. If they won't give a share count don't play. You can usually find when the dump is coming on by calling. Also look at share count what company needs a billion shares. I try to stop buying when they get in the 700 million range.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Nice to see some people who's picks I have come to respect here.

I have done well looking at other's picks and verifying with my own DD to confirm or understand why that stock was picked. The oft repeated protect capital/profit has saved me more than once already.

I am excited to see some specific current advice from PG that we can follow and learn from. This is a fantastic opportunity!
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Dustoff,

I am interested in doing more Nasdaq plays. Is there an active board that discusses those picks?

Of course, first I must eliminate some of these other positions.

Jo
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/forum/f/7.html
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Jo, do you have an access to a Nasdaq streamer?
Breaking news?
Newspaper? many finds, right in front of ya, and you can take your time just DDing them.

Old foggies like me still like our newspaper for a reason..LOL

A good paper has thousands of stocks listed everyday.

Sometimes I start going thru my list..Well over a thousand now..Stopped counting.....

[ July 16, 2006, 20:06: Message edited by: Dustoff 1 ]
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
Is there an active board that discusses those picks?
Jo

Jo,
About big board stocks. I follow some of the very good boards. I shall list a couple. one is stock arena . com. another is CNBC stock picks board. HSM has good members like chan whose picks are worth keeping on radar. short term, example can be like in CNBC, look for previous weeks best stock picker and get in and get out after he announces his next pick based on how high the chart allows you. For long term, Key to picking stock in big boards IMO is fundamentals such as Earnings Per Share, Accumulation Distribution, high EPS, earnings growth momentum so on and so forth.
One of the easiest way to make money on a big board stock is by shorting stocks. charts give away shorting patterns extremely easily. take an example of orcl. a shortseller could have easily shorted orcl on the 18th or supg on 5th. easy 10-20% can be made on such stock patterns, especially in bear market.

stock fetcher . com has some good filters in its forum to select bullish/bearish patterns, for quick entry/exit based on charts. I have 3 -4 of my own which have outperformed over past 6 months. I shall open a thread on Allstocks and see if anyone shares their stock filters.

overall, get proficient in TA if you want to make money in big boards. some of the links I have posted earlier will be useful for TA.
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Short-selling is for very well heeled and seasoned Investor/Traders.....

An amateur should never attempt doing it.

You could find yourself in a margin call that ruins you..

You can lose more than you bet!!! Nightmare stories of amateurs losing homes, and having the life they had change in a matter of minutes...

Cramer? To many screw ups...Refco, remember..His pumping the scam left folks ruined..
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dustoff 1:
Short-selling is for very well heeled and seasoned Investor/Traders.....

An amateur should never attempt doing it.

You could find yourself in a margin call that ruins you..

You can lose more than you bet!!! Nightmare stories of amateurs losing homes, and having the life they had change in a matter of minutes...

hehe.. is it worse than losing 93% of the income. and yes short selling and option trading is more risky than regular buying/selling, however, using simple clues, people can make small profits by making quick entry/exit.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
r-m,

Jo is trying to work a turnaround, here, huh? Is shorting and options really relevant, now?
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
r-m,

Jo is trying to work a turnaround, here, huh? Is shorting and options really relevant, now?

NOPE!!! very bad idea in her situation right now IMO, but I was just talking in general context of how to play big board stocks, not purely on basis of who picks what, but how to use those picks to make you money, without losing a penny on it.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
ok, thanks...
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Jo, I hope you are considering my previous advice.

NWD - buy at 1.38 - 1.48

This one will move up to 1.50 per share in one
to three weeks. The next 10Q will move this up
to 1.75 share, around there. Next 10Q is due
very shortly.

NWD prices are down because amateur traders are
not able to understand the last 10Q and the
reason for reported single quarter losses in
a very long time.

This stock will not fall below 1.35, most likely
will not fall below 1.40 per. A slow mover which
affords good safety; low risk.

I am also hoping you are considering my advice
to be careful about who you trust. Should you
fall back to playing pump and dump stocks, you
will lose money and some of us will no longer
work at helping you. You must display effort
at helping yourself before others will be
motivated to help you.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
ALAN - .55 - .60 buy.

Not an impressive company, kinda so-so but some
potential and ALAN is working hard at moving forward.

Not a well known stock, not very popular.

This is not a long term hold.

ALAN will move up to .70 to .75 in, guessing,
two to four weeks. Not real confident this will
happen so quickly, but it will move up at least
ten cents per share.

Slow moving, low risk.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
NXTI buy at .46 to .48 sell at .50 to .55

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
PKCI buy at .055 / .058 sell at .065 / .068

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
PWCL buy at .35 sell at .45

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
PYTM buy at .11 sell at .13

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
SIDY buy at .06 sell at .07

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
SMID - wait for a coming drop to 2.50 - 2.55 buy
Sell at 2.60 to 2.70

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
SUWN buy at .90 / .94 sell at 1.00

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
VFIN buy at .21 sell at .25

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
VTSI buy at .05 sell at .07

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Purl, I wrote to you a couple of weeks ago asking for this kind of advice, but never got it. Please keep it coming. What are some max and min, amounts to invest? Thanks for taken the time, much apprieciated.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
well, there's some calls...

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Sorry, Cassity, somehow I missed your request.

Minimum and Maximum, this is for you to decide.
Only you know how much money you can afford to
risk. Guideline is risk no more money than you
are willing to flush down a toilet, seriously.

Keep fifty percent of your brokerage money
in cash. Never violate this rule. Should
you fall below fifty percent liquidity,
start selling and taking profits.

Never have more than fifty percent of your
money tied up in stocks. Follow this rule
and you will be forced to play hard and to
lower your risks by moving in and out of
stocks very quickly.

Your plan to profit should _never_ be based
on how much money to use. Your plan should
_always_ be based on how much percentage
profit you want to earn.

This will force you to carefully research any
given stock to estimate what you believe will
be the percentage profit potential.

Set an expected percentage profit of ten percent
over no more than thirty days, less days is better.

I do not care if you make ten dollars or ten-thousand
dollars, as long as you work at a goal of a ten
percent profit in a short time.

Small frequent profits add up in a hurry.

At five (5) percent profit profit margin, if you
consistently earn five percent month-over-month,
you can turn one-thousand dollars into an easy
one-hundred-thousand dollars.

Why this works is you roll your profits over
into your cash. Each time you add profits, you
have greater buying power. With greater buying
power, your five percent profit earns a greater
amount of dollar value, each profit.

A consistent five percent earnings:

Invest 1,000 earn 50 = 1,050
Invest 1,050 earn 52.5 = 1,152.5
Invest 1,152.5 earn 57.5 = 1,210
Invest 1,210 earn 60.5 = 1,270.5
Invest 1,270.5 earn 63.52 = 1,334.02
Invest 1,334.02 earn 66.70 = 1,400.72
Invest 1,400.72 earn 70.03 = 1,470.75
Invest 1,475.75 earn 73.53 = 1,549.28
Invest 1,549.28 earn 77.46 = 1,626.74
Invest 1,626.74 earn 81.33 = 1,708.07

There you are. At a consistent earnings of
only five percent, in only ten trades you
have actually earned almost seventy-five (75)
percent on your original one-thousand dollars.

You can understand when you approach twenty
trades, fifty trades, you are up a very
significant amount, on only five percent
earnings in profits.

In a year, you _can_ turn 1,000 into 100,000
by playing percentages, not dollar amounts.

Imagine now actually earning ten percent
per every trade you make. Big Bucks.

This will not happen in reality, but you
can come very close to this goal by investing
a lot, a way lot of time into good research
and good decision making. No reason why you
cannot more than double your money each year.

With this year's really bad, really REALLY bad
market conditions, the safe money is in very
small, very frequent profits, for penny stocks.

Long term value stocks are fine, but there is
no need to buy those right now. Prices are
not about to change anytime soon. Smart traders
are working hard at earning small profits on
a very regular basis.

Again, if you earn ten bucks this day then
earn fifty bucks the next, then another ten
bucks, you will have my compliments; small
profits become big profits if you carefully
play your cards.

That is how you should be playing the markets
for current conditions; quick in and out for
consistent small profits.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
For a little more info showing a trading pattern on "VFIN"--------> go to search feature and type in VFIN....Wallace, blue, and Purl have this thing nailed down.....

Date of post-----> April 01/05

Wallace was very good at DD he once was a SEC Dept. manager.

I play the stock occasionally as well....
The stock can be very boring for long periods of time, immediately put in your pre-determined sell order after purchase..
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"The stock can be very boring for long periods of
time, immediately put in your pre-determined sell
order after purchase."

Yes, VFIN, very boring. Long waits, sometimes,
between profit, but profit always comes around.
This one is a fairly safe play. Slow movers,
low volume, fairly decent companies, are often
more safe penny plays.

There is NO safety in penny plays, but some are
more safe than others. These "safe" stocks are
the stocks I am playing now in current markets.

I do have a lot more plays but those are high
risk day trading stocks. Jo should NOT be playing
those, nor playing pump and dump scams.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
whale, me is a runing thru me old stocks....

will have somemore to throw out here....

NAVI was a fluke! How I found the thing was bee-zarr--------> me was scrambling words around and started coming up with stock symbols..Boredom waiting for L2'S to get a move on can be productive! LOL
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Last one, for tonight, I think. I am pulling
these out of my head which is difficult
considering how much fat is between my ears.

CNCN, this one periodically jumps, on news,
from .15 / .16 up to .22 to .25 per. I would
sell this one at .21 to be sure to lock in
profits. CNCN is very volatile when news
comes out and plays only last one day, maybe
two days but usually not.

A fairly predictable pattern is developing
for CNCN. Challenge is predicting when news
will be released and when to jump in. Sometimes,
if after or before market news, you can jump in
first thing in the morning, about two cents
to three cents above previous close. You have
to watch very closely during the day and jump
out around .21 to .24 per, without fail.

When CNCN dips to .14 to .15 I usually buy some,
maybe fifty-thousand to a hundred-thousand shares.
Do not want to buy too much because you might not
be able to unload all those shares. I think my
last buy was Thursday or Friday of last week.

Chances are I will have to sit on this one a
month, maybe two months before another up spike.

For readers who have not figured this out yet,
many of us are playing anywhere from five to
ten stocks, at a time. We are day trading
several stocks at once, or working a handful
over a few days, maybe a week. We are making
a lot of trades for, again, small profits.

Worst you could do now is play those under .10
board stocks. Bad news all around. Your money
is tied up much too long for current conditions.
These bad markets dictate you keep your money
churning daily, if not hourly; fast in and out.

Do not allow your money to sit and do nothing
in those cheap pump and dump stocks. You will
lose money. Buyers are absent from these bad
markets; very few are playing those scam stocks.
Good traders are moving shares very fast, as
fast as possible to reduce capital exposure risk.

People will argue this point. Another bad move
is riding "free shares" after taking profits.
Darn people, take _all_ of your profits, never
ride free shares. Those free shares are NOT free.
Those shares are your profits sitting there doing
nothing and at risk of being lost. Never sell only
part of your shares for penny stocks. Divest
completely and put your money back to work.

Amazes me people think "free shares" are free.
Again, they are NOT free; that is your _money_
sitting there.

Why am I up so late on a Sunday instead of in bed
with my husband enjoying, well, hmm, you know?

Two reasons, we already did that down at the
pool late today and I am researching stocks for
tomorrow and this coming week. My husband is
snoring not more than five feet from me.

What are you doing right now? Watching television
or sleeping? You should be researching stocks if
you are to be successful.

Those not spending hours and hours researching
stocks, will always be losers.

Work hard, play hard. I like the hard play, best.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
What is with you and the under .10 board...you have some personal vendetta? I don't daytrade since I only have a margin account not with 25k and investing 1k into each penny in the past week and a half has made me $784...all from the under .10 board. Sorry Purl, they may be pump and dump, but lots of money to be made there
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Oh my, I pushed a sensitive button.

Are you Jo or another person new to trading?

I think not and that board is not a good
place for new naive traders.

Additionally, I stated very sound logical reason
for staying away from those types of stocks, for
all traders.

Maybe you have a reading comprehension problem
or are taking this too personally?

What you do is not my business. My business
is speaking truthfully to all readers.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Whale, want a chuckle?

Check this out...Tried ZARR nuttin'
Tried ZAR---------->BINGO!

ZREGF
ZARAF
ZRDZF
ZL
ZLKKF
ZMRAF
WTRS
ZRBA
ZARFF
ZGONF

BEE brought up -------> BEE "Strategic Hotels & Resorts inc.
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
I agree the .10 cent board might be hard to handle for a newbie. Once you have some experiecnce, the .10 cent board is extremely easy to play with those stocks. Just wait for a hot PR or a stock with a lot of momo, and get in and out. I always get out earlier than most, while it's still rising. And only every once in a while I hold over night, when big news is expected. The last time I did was for XKEM, and sold the day of approval.
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dustoff 1:
Whale, want a chuckle?

Check this out...Tried ZARR nuttin'
Tried ZAR---------->BINGO!

ZREGF
ZARAF
ZRDZF
ZL
ZLKKF
ZMRAF
WTRS
ZRBA
ZARFF
ZGONF

BEE brought up -------> BEE "Strategic Hotels & Resorts inc.

-------------------------------------------------
BINGO brought up
BFSC, OTC
BNGF,OTC

Both are dead stocks, wonder how many got burned?

Whale,,,Wife and I have the 'best of the Commadores on the BOSE, kinda peaceful here just runing stocks like this..Oh' well, back to work..

[ July 17, 2006, 02:49: Message edited by: Dustoff 1 ]
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
well after midnite here, sack time..
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
edit

[ July 17, 2006, 08:03: Message edited by: ruskin_muskin ]
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
just might want to watch CALL......
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
Jo, I hope you are considering my previous advice.
Yes, I am. I've been writing all the suggestions down. I especially appreciate the post about how to take small profits, percentagewise. If I had done this to begin with, I wouldn't be in this mess. I actually started out doing that, setting my sells for a 10% profit, but then I fell into these fast movers like NDOL, XKEM, etc, watched my portfolio skyrocket, got greedy (why sell at 10% profit when you can make 300%, I thought). Then got stupid and watched the profits fall back down.

I don't have the liquid cash right now to do any of the plays you suggested right now, so I am going to play a couple of them on paper, while I wait out some of my GTC sells to come through. Even with losses on some of those, I will at least have some cash again.

You will be happy to know that I have not opened any new p&d threads in the under .10 board! LOL! But I have checked out the under .10 board for stocks I am already in.

I also have a job interview today! Maybe I can earn back some of my losses working for the man.

Jo
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
NWD - buy at 1.38 - 1.48

This one will move up to 1.50 per share in one
to three weeks. The next 10Q will move this up
to 1.75 share, around there. Next 10Q is due
very shortly.

NWD prices are down because amateur traders are
not able to understand the last 10Q and the
reason for reported single quarter losses in
a very long time.

I've been watching this one this morning (paper trading). I paper-bought at 1.36, now it is 1.39. The volume shows 7,000. Can you help me understand volume as it relates to being able to sell a stock. I thought that a low volume such as this would make it not a good choice.

My paper-sell for this one is $1.48

Jo
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"I've been watching this one this morning (paper
trading). I paper-bought at 1.36, now it is 1.39. The
volume shows 7,000. Can you help me understand
volume as it relates to being able to sell a stock.
I thought that a low volume such as this would make
it not a good choice.

My paper-sell for this one is $1.48"

Jo, you have highlighted an interesting exception
to this rule about not playing low volume stocks.

General guideline is plays stocks which have
an average daily volume of fifty-thousand to
one-hundred-thousand, maybe a little more if
you hold a lot of shares.

NWD, historically, displays low volume between
filings of 10Q reports. Just before and after
a 10Q filing, or on good news, volume explodes.

There are a lot of people vested in NWD and
even more watching NWD. When some company
event takes place, volume will skyrocket.

This is truly an exception. Often low volume
will push prices lower making for good buying
chances. However, you have to be careful to
research volume history and pattern. Some
stocks _always_ have low volume which is the
type of which you speak, with good correctness.

True low volume stocks, you are right. Those
you want to avoid. This is not so much because
there is not potential for profit. It is you
have a hard time unloading your shares, at a
time you want to unload; no buyers.

Have fun with NWD. I predict you will paper
profit more than you already have.

Paper trading is great. I still do this on
a very regular basis to test myself and to
learn better. Keep doing this because paper
trading is an excellent learning tool, for
all traders regardless of skill level.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
anybody get filled at .18 on VFIN?

Bid in here at .18 no fill
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
SUWN buy at .90 / .94 sell at 1.00

Purl Gurl

Purl looks loke this one went south...would you still suggest to buy it at these levels (.78) and sell at 1.00?
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"Purl looks loke this one went south..."

Boy Howdy! I am curious what is going on.

This is not in keeping with prices today,
nor historical prices. Yes, a bargain basement
buy if you can buy that low.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
SUWN buy at .90 / .94 sell at 1.00

Purl Gurl

Purl looks loke this one went south...would you still suggest to buy it at these levels (.78) and sell at 1.00?
would be a good idea to wait IMO.. filled some old gaps from february times today.. one more left.. might never fill.. look for 0.62-0.64 around 50 day MACD for safe reentry!!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
"Boy Howdy! I am curious what is going on."

LOL...
I'm watchin...can't find any info on it...as far as why it's doing this...
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
SUWN

Ten, I find no news nor SEC filings which
explain this sudden crash. Appears, on face
value, nothing has changed.

I will be watching close, thinking about
buying some. I would expect prices to
recover quickly but this is far from a
guarantee. Something has happened which
is not visible to us out here.

Lots of explanations but none we can
verify with information available.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
My thoughts also...I put a small order in...filled before the screen changed...not the best sign...IMO
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
ruskin just saw your post...I will keep an eye on that...
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
would somebody please sell their VFIN to me at me bid.
is begging ' BOGART"
Here me go again, this stock can be so boring sometimes that waiting for fish to start jumping outa the tub is more exciting....
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Jo, mortgage your house and your kids' future and buy FRPT. It is, and will be, the greatest stock pick of the century. Nobody, has or will, have 1 bad thing to say about. Nobody. People just aren't aware of the company.

And if you are going to listen to people here, listen to those who post the LEAST, not these folks who like the sound of their voice and post novel-like posts over and over and over... people like Malloy. The man is a genius. Prdponce too.

Oh, and do check other sites! That way, you get the WHOLE picture of what people are saying about a stock. If people are pumping here, you'll find the bashers on Ihub or HSM. That way you find if a stock is being pumped somewhere, or if others have good knowledge of it.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Dustoff...NO!
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Repoman, what happened to your website you
dedicated to me? Appears to have vanished.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
repo, see your not banned anymore...

Did you read thru this entire thread?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Dustoff, made it through page 1 1/2, and then I started to fall asleep after reading through the ponderous diatribes...
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Ten, behavior of SUWN today represents the
really exciting part of trading stocks.

We know this crash should not have happened
yet there it is. We also see great potential
for profit and are somewhat afraid to take a
chance, wisely so.

Clearly something changed trader perception
very quickly. The excitement here is SUWN,
today, has become a roll of the dice, only.

In time, maybe we will learn what has happened.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
ponderous diatribes...

[Smile] [Smile] [Smile] [Smile] [Smile] [Smile]
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Repoman75:
Dustoff, made it through page 1 1/2, and then I started to fall asleep after reading through the ponderous diatribes... [/QUOTE
-------------------------------------------------
maybe you should reserve judgement instead of reacting to a few posts, read the whole thing their is a very good flow of info, with some time delays for personal Vendetta's..
Vendetta's as you well know are not tolerated on allstocks.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I have no personal vendettas. I hate ponderous diatribes made by anyone... nothing personal unless someone takes it that way.
 
Posted by KB1112 on :
 
I just picked up some NWD at $1.38. I've only been posting here for a few months and only been trading for 5 months, but the people posting on this thread have been the most helpful. Everything looks good with this one, hope to turn a gain in a few weeks.

Thanks for the heads up.
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Reminds me of a story.

Couple years back, before people learned to
trust me, which people should not do, I came
across a stock, VTSI which proved interesting!

I found some SEC filings and a court case.

The CEO pissed off his wife and she divorced
him then started dumping her millions of shares.
This took place at the same time good news was
released, but few or none knew of the divorce
case, I think in Texas if my memory is ok.

This is why researching a CEO and his family,
sometimes pays off or protects you from loss.
The CEO sued to prevent his ex-wife from
selling her shares and lost. She sold simply
to take revenge on him.

I wrote people should buy this VTSI when it
moved down to .20 to .22 range based on this
pissed off wife dumping millions of shares.

Heh! The boys here laughed at me.

I bought a whole bunch at .21 per share, waited
about a week, VTSI moved right back up to .31 per,
as I indicated it would.

Loser stock today, but not then!

This well exemplifies how the oddest of events,
not normally known to the public, can effect
share price dramatically and quickly.

Something odd has happened with SUWN today.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by MCJA on :
 
Good to see ya back


quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
I have no personal vendettas. I hate ponderous diatribes made by anyone... nothing personal unless someone takes it that way.


 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
Thx repo..for coming back [Smile] .. and welcome back..

meanwhile..no reason for NWD to go back up.. financials show significant losses and charts trend downwards... the PR of europe exports did not really give it the boost it needed.. come positive financials and this thing should fly.. till then better to wait till it falls to around $1 range..
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Repo, as you know FRPT is the only stock I own that is in the green.

I have a bunch in it, but I still won't mortgage my house for it. I have positions at
$2.17, 5.80, 6.10 and 6.22 I also took some profits from it earlier.

Jo
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Today is looking a little brighter. I think the best thing I did was to NOT BUY ANYTHING NEW. I set some sells based on some of the advice here. Nothing reached those sell points, but some things did rise.

I have to make two decisions for tommorrow as these two stocks are now at a point where I would only have a small loss if I sold them at current PPS.

Stock 1: FHAL: bought at .265 currently .26 This went to .27 today and there are lots of rumors about what will take place with the merger. There's a $15.00 per share price being bandied about, but it hasn't been that long that folks were saying stuff like that about NDOL.

Stock 2: GSPG: bought at .013, currently .0109

Jo
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Careful with the rumors of the $15.00...I think that is what kicked everyone into a buying mode today...buy on rumor..."sell on news"...I am looking to sell at .34ish...maybe buy back in...but the $15.00 seems a little far...
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"but the $15.00 seems a little far..."

Ha! Ha! Ten you are far too gracious!

* bites her tongue *

OUCH! I best keep my mouth shut.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Come my little chicks, Mother Hen wants
to introduce you to the Fox. Time for you
to be out of the nest and on your own.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
Jo:

FRPT: one of the very good stocks I have on holding since a long time now. its probably the most solid company right now, its like TASR of old days. people had recognised the technology early on and bought it in the $3 area. it went all the way into 30's. I think we are one of the very few who have discovered FRPT early on. now its only a matter of time that its vehicles replace vehicles like humvees. so it would be good holding onto it.

FHAL: has good support at 0.14-0.15 area. so you dont need to worry much about holding onto it. remember what purl has said about profits. profit taking is utmost important. I had bought it at 0.145 on Friday. took profits off it at 0.2 today, and kept small position open. remember that there are plenty of good plays out there, and getting rich off a single stock is a bad idea [Smile] .. look for 0.28-0.3 to sell before any reentry!

GSPG: it shall test 0.0115-0.012 sometime soon, assuming no real bad news. looks like lawsuit settlement news has given it some good bounce. shall reach the points I have mentioned pretty quickly, and that should give you a decent indicator as to sell, with not much loss.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Today is looking a little brighter. I think the best thing I did was to NOT BUY ANYTHING NEW. I set some sells based on some of the advice here. Nothing reached those sell points, but some things did rise.

I have to make two decisions for tommorrow as these two stocks are now at a point where I would only have a small loss if I sold them at current PPS.

Stock 1: FHAL: bought at .265 currently .26 This went to .27 today and there are lots of rumors about what will take place with the merger. There's a $15.00 per share price being bandied about, but it hasn't been that long that folks were saying stuff like that about NDOL.

Stock 2: GSPG: bought at .013, currently .0109

Jo
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
whale, me thinks sumpin hatched from the bottom of the manure pile on the ndol thread picture....

ya know, the pod looking dung thing....LOL
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Jo,

I am only going to add a little advise. You do not need to make a trade move every day. Only make a move that makes sense when it makes sense.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
PG and 10of and Tex, this is one of the best threads I have yet read.

Thanks!
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
Portman,

as far as recent threads go, coupla nice posts here:

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/9/ t/001675/p/1.html#000016
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Portman,,,What! you mean you don't understand high teck stock picking like throwing darts at the financial newspapers and high teck word scramble....Geez! just wait till a run away bubble market come's along, you'll see..LOL
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
I am only going to add a little advise. You do not need to make a trade move every day. Only make a move that makes sense when it makes sense.

Thanks. This is why I'm happy that I didn't buy anything. What has been happenning lately is that I was trying to catch "runners" to make up for losses. To resist is an improvement already. My goal now is to consolidate until I get to the point of having only 5 or 6 positions to watch at one time.

Jo
 
Posted by shoot-the-messenger on :
 
Jo,

Back in the early 1900s a stock speculator named Jesse Livermore traded in the markets. He was one of the sharpest speculators to have ever traded on Wall Street to this day.

There's a book I would highly recommend you read.
It's called Reminiscences of a Stock Operator.
The book is still in print and should be easy enough to find. If you are interested in speculating in stocks, you will find this book to be of great value. The main character is based on Jesse's life and trading in the markets.He was one of the best that ever played this game.

stm
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
"but the $15.00 seems a little far..."

Ha! Ha! Ten you are far too gracious!

* bites her tongue *

OUCH! I best keep my mouth shut.

Purl Gurl

Sorry...I'm still not the "blunt" type...I figured you would set it straight..I was just buttering it up softly so you could show the real pictures...LOL

So please..before you set the "chicks free" and let them meet the fox...repeat the warnings one more time... [Wink]
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
DON"T PUT THE CHICKENS IN CHARGE OF THE FOX DEN
 
Posted by portman on :
 
You just need a big enough flock and enough assorted small arms and most of them will be fine.

I have traded the big stocks for several years and I keep them in different accounts from my new penny account.

The Penny Stocks really are different and certainly more exciting. I like them more since all my big board plays are very long plays.

I have made money here but not as steady as I would like to see. I read about, DD and watch more stocks than I play. I have made good and bad decisions but nothing deadly (yet). I am almost up $1000 in a month of trading.

I have missed more than a few runs. Better to miss the run than to play late and run out of upside.

I will state that I would have made very bad decisions had I not read this board in the beginning. So to those of your who take the time...thanks for taking some time from making money to teach!
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
the more good traders, the better...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Portman...it's a give and take, in my eyes...
First..I am also new...but if people ask me for help...It is great because if I don't know the answer..I tried to find it, not only to help them but to teach myself...and when a new person learns..then they "add to the pool"..so everyone wins..that's how I see it...

And Purl...well she scares the "chit" out of everyone...and gives them shock therapy...but the person will most defintely learn from it...and look what she is doin' here...tryin' to "walk" Jo out of the trouble that allot of us probably helped Jo get in...through out "BS" talks...
Aside from the #1 rule..Protect your Capital..that might be my #2 rule...don't fall for the Hype on the boards...
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"And Purl...well she scares the "chit" out of
everyone...and gives them shock therapy..."

MUUUHAHAHAHAAAAA!

Witch of Wall Street
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
You will discover, Ten of Scares, should approach
your research of a stock with high skepticism,
with negative attitude, you will end up losing
a lot less money.

Look for the bad, first, and look far and wide.
When little bad is found, you have a good one.

It is the bad a company conceals from you.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
"And Purl...well she scares the "chit" out of
everyone...and gives them shock therapy..."

No, not everyone. I ain't afeared o' no mean ol' braod jest acause she lakes to make scrary noises and thinks she's a witch. (Gets 'er dubyas and 'er bees mixed up, she does.)

But most particularly if you are wanting to learn things about stuff (not just stock pickin), she's more enlightening that fearsome. Might be a dozen o' yaw'll put together could transmit half as much information. Might be, but not likely.

What's more, you can trust the contrary old thang.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Purl...my skeptism...runs deep...in most everything...but when I post...I try to be careful...soooo many people on these threads get in an uproar so easily...and to me...it's not worth getting in that pissin' match...life is too short! and I trade better if I am havin fun...
[Big Grin]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
What's more, you can trust the contrary old thang.

THAT's IT! She calls it like it is..and let's you know! She can be trusted! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"What's more, you can trust the contrary old thang."

* whispers *

psstt... I sure have bdgee fooled.

"...people on these threads get in an uproar so easily...."

Nah, that simply cannot be. No way. You think?

"...not worth getting in that pissin' match."

I can piss farther than any boy here.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Yes Purl you can...pretty sure I felt the spray way over here!! LOL
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Ten and I are working as a team. She is the
good cop, I am the bad cop. Will not be long
the two of us will have all the boy's money
and be headed to Vegas for a lesbian fling.

You know, whatever, it stays in Vegas.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
Well, yeah, sure, but you are more up tight about pissin than anyone else here. It's the pressure, ya see....
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"Yes Purl you can...pretty sure I felt the spray way over here!!"

Oppsss.. I have to stop doing my mare trick.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
WTF Purl...why did you tell them?!!

Guys, she's lyin'! No really [Wink]
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Kegels, I perform a lot, A LOT of Kegels.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
Of course she's lyin, 10, humor the poor thang...the trick is to learn to reconize when it's a lye and when it's a acid.
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Ok, ok, I lied about the good cop / bad cop routine.
We are both bad cops.

Well, kinda lied about the lesbian thing. I am
a lesbian but Ten is bisexual.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
Might want to check out LFLT....low low float and news after close

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/060717/20060717005926.html?.v=1
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
LOL...so when we go to Vegas...I'll bring the handcuffs...I just bought a fancy new pair...
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
Ok, ok, I lied about the good cop / bad cop routine.
We are both bad cops.

Well, kinda lied about the lesbian thing. I am
a lesbian but Ten is bisexual.

Purl Gurl

ya...

and I'm a furry...

[Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Handcuffs, yes bring your handcuffs. Easier for
the police if we handcuff ourselves; saves them
time and effort.

Reminds of a story. I pull a con on a ticket
promoter, told him I am a nude dancer and if
he gives me ten free tickets, I will get him
into my show for free. He wants proof I am
a nude dancer, so I prove this to him, right
there on the sidewalk. Got the tickets.

However, I cannot tell my story here.

Hmm, maybe I will tell this story elsewhere
and upload some pictures of a big bouncer who
chased after me.

My daughter took pictures of the incident to
later blackmail me into allowing her to drive
my Corvette.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"...and I'm a furry...."

New toupee?

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
nah...

3-night stand . . .
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Hmmm....might need to check to the other thread...
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Hmmm....might need to check to the other thread...

lol, coulda missed sumpin... [Razz]
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"lol, coulda missed sumpin..."

Boy, I'll say. You see, boys? Give me a little
space, give me a little freedom and I will
entertain you endlessly.

Bob's advertising revenues have probably
jumped a good one-hundred percent.

People are flocking here by the dozens.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
The Blonde that launched a thousand Ships......
Now thats what ya can call advertising.....

Left me dock----------> A sailing to Cal-i-forn-ee-a

Shutter me Timbers, Gold in them thar Hills!!
Course set for about 160 degree's 'S

if me compass quits a spinning..
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
EDITED!!!

[ July 18, 2006, 01:04: Message edited by: ruskin_muskin ]
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
RM, your lost in the Fog...Go to the the whistle bouy...Then follow someone with radar over the Bar..But make sure you have the speed to keep up with the Radar equiped boat..
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dustoff 1:
RM, your lost in the Fog...Go to the the whistle bouy...Then follow someone with radar over the Bar..But make sure you have the speed to keep up with the Radar equiped boat..

why dont you people use OT board for non serious and irrelevant discussions????
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ruskin_muskin:
quote:
Originally posted by Dustoff 1:
RM, your lost in the Fog...Go to the the whistle bouy...Then follow someone with radar over the Bar..But make sure you have the speed to keep up with the Radar equiped boat..

why dont you people use OT board for non serious and irrelevant discussions????
-------------------------------------------------
Why don't your "kind of people show some class?
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Well, GFCI looks like a backed potatoe now...
FHAL still in the oven?
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Any of you who are similarly in the red who would like to share progress, I created a thread over on the Newbie Investor board.

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/9/ t/001679.html

Jo
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
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posted by Ruskin Muskin: Jo,
About big board stocks. I follow some of the very good boards. I shall list a couple. one is stock arena . com. another is CNBC stock picks board. HSM has good members like chan whose picks are worth keeping on radar. short term, example can be like in CNBC, look for previous weeks best stock picker and get in and get out after he announces his next pick based on how high the chart allows you. For long term, Key to picking stock in big boards IMO is fundamentals such as Earnings Per Share, Accumulation Distribution, high EPS, earnings growth momentum so on and so forth.
One of the easiest way to make money on a big board stock is by shorting stocks. charts give away shorting patterns extremely easily. take an example of orcl. a shortseller could have easily shorted orcl on the 18th or supg on 5th. easy 10-20% can be made on such stock patterns, especially in bear market.

stock fetcher . com has some good filters in its forum to select bullish/bearish patterns, for quick entry/exit based on charts. I have 3 -4 of my own which have outperformed over past 6 months. I shall open a thread on Allstocks and see if anyone shares their stock filters.

overall, get proficient in TA if you want to make money in big boards. some of the links I have posted earlier will be useful for TA.

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Short-selling is for very well heeled and seasoned Investor/Traders.....

An amateur should never attempt doing it.

You could find yourself in a margin call that ruins you..

You can lose more than you bet!!! Nightmare stories of amateurs losing homes, and having the life they had change in a matter of minutes...

Cramer? To many screw ups...Refco, remember..His pumping the scam left folks ruined..
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Short-selling is for very well heeled and seasoned Investor/Traders.....

An amateur should never attempt doing it.

You could find yourself in a margin call that ruins you..

You can lose more than you bet!!! Nightmare stories of amateurs losing homes, and having the life they had change in a matter of minutes...
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hehe.. is it worse than losing 93% of the income. and yes short selling and option trading is more risky than regular buying/selling, however, using simple clues, people can make small profits by making quick entry/exit.

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r-m,

Jo is trying to work a turnaround, here, huh? Is shorting and options really relevant, now?

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NOPE!!! very bad idea in her situation right now IMO, but I was just talking in general context of how to play big board stocks, not purely on basis of who picks what, but how to use those picks to make you money, without losing a penny on it.

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ok, thanks...

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Jo, I hope you are considering my previous advice.

NWD - buy at 1.38 - 1.48

This one will move up to 1.50 per share in one
to three weeks. The next 10Q will move this up
to 1.75 share, around there. Next 10Q is due
very shortly.

NWD prices are down because amateur traders are
not able to understand the last 10Q and the
reason for reported single quarter losses in
a very long time.

This stock will not fall below 1.35, most likely
will not fall below 1.40 per. A slow mover which
affords good safety; low risk.

I am also hoping you are considering my advice
to be careful about who you trust. Should you
fall back to playing pump and dump stocks, you
will lose money and some of us will no longer
work at helping you. You must display effort
at helping yourself before others will be
motivated to help you.

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ALAN - .55 - .60 buy.

Not an impressive company, kinda so-so but some
potential and ALAN is working hard at moving forward.

Not a well known stock, not very popular.

This is not a long term hold.

ALAN will move up to .70 to .75 in, guessing,
two to four weeks. Not real confident this will
happen so quickly, but it will move up at least
ten cents per share.

Slow moving, low risk.

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NXTI buy at .46 to .48 sell at .50 to .55

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PKCI buy at .055 / .058 sell at .065 / .068

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PWCL buy at .35 sell at .45

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PYTM buy at .11 sell at .13

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SIDY buy at .06 sell at .07

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SMID - wait for a coming drop to 2.50 - 2.55 buy
Sell at 2.60 to 2.70

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SUWN buy at .90 / .94 sell at 1.00

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VFIN buy at .21 sell at .25

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VTSI buy at .05 sell at .07

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Purl, I wrote to you a couple of weeks ago asking for this kind of advice, but never got it. Please keep it coming. What are some max and min, amounts to invest? Thanks for taken the time, much apprieciated.
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Sorry, Cassity, somehow I missed your request.

Minimum and Maximum, this is for you to decide.
Only you know how much money you can afford to
risk. Guideline is risk no more money than you
are willing to flush down a toilet, seriously.

Keep fifty percent of your brokerage money
in cash. Never violate this rule. Should
you fall below fifty percent liquidity,
start selling and taking profits.

Never have more than fifty percent of your
money tied up in stocks. Follow this rule
and you will be forced to play hard and to
lower your risks by moving in and out of
stocks very quickly.

Your plan to profit should _never_ be based
on how much money to use. Your plan should
_always_ be based on how much percentage
profit you want to earn.

This will force you to carefully research any
given stock to estimate what you believe will
be the percentage profit potential.

Set an expected percentage profit of ten percent
over no more than thirty days, less days is better.

I do not care if you make ten dollars or ten-thousand
dollars, as long as you work at a goal of a ten
percent profit in a short time.

Small frequent profits add up in a hurry.

At five (5) percent profit profit margin, if you
consistently earn five percent month-over-month,
you can turn one-thousand dollars into an easy
one-hundred-thousand dollars.

Why this works is you roll your profits over
into your cash. Each time you add profits, you
have greater buying power. With greater buying
power, your five percent profit earns a greater
amount of dollar value, each profit.

A consistent five percent earnings:

Invest 1,000 earn 50 = 1,050
Invest 1,050 earn 52.5 = 1,152.5
Invest 1,152.5 earn 57.5 = 1,210
Invest 1,210 earn 60.5 = 1,270.5
Invest 1,270.5 earn 63.52 = 1,334.02
Invest 1,334.02 earn 66.70 = 1,400.72
Invest 1,400.72 earn 70.03 = 1,470.75
Invest 1,475.75 earn 73.53 = 1,549.28
Invest 1,549.28 earn 77.46 = 1,626.74
Invest 1,626.74 earn 81.33 = 1,708.07

There you are. At a consistent earnings of
only five percent, in only ten trades you
have actually earned almost seventy-five (75)
percent on your original one-thousand dollars.

You can understand when you approach twenty
trades, fifty trades, you are up a very
significant amount, on only five percent
earnings in profits.

In a year, you _can_ turn 1,000 into 100,000
by playing percentages, not dollar amounts.

Imagine now actually earning ten percent
per every trade you make. Big Bucks.

This will not happen in reality, but you
can come very close to this goal by investing
a lot, a way lot of time into good research
and good decision making. No reason why you
cannot more than double your money each year.

With this year's really bad, really REALLY bad
market conditions, the safe money is in very
small, very frequent profits, for penny stocks.

Long term value stocks are fine, but there is
no need to buy those right now. Prices are
not about to change anytime soon. Smart traders
are working hard at earning small profits on
a very regular basis.

Again, if you earn ten bucks this day then
earn fifty bucks the next, then another ten
bucks, you will have my compliments; small
profits become big profits if you carefully
play your cards.

That is how you should be playing the markets
for current conditions; quick in and out for
consistent small profits.

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For a little more info showing a trading pattern on "VFIN"--------> go to search feature and type in VFIN....Wallace, blue, and Purl have this thing nailed down.....

Date of post-----> April 01/05
Wallace was very good at DD he once was a SEC Dept. manager.

I play the stock occasionally as well....
The stock can be very boring for long periods of time, immediately put in your pre-determined sell order after purchase..
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"The stock can be very boring for long periods of
time, immediately put in your pre-determined sell
order after purchase."

Yes, VFIN, very boring. Long waits, sometimes,
between profit, but profit always comes around.
This one is a fairly safe play. Slow movers,
low volume, fairly decent companies, are often
more safe penny plays.

There is NO safety in penny plays, but some are
more safe than others. These "safe" stocks are
the stocks I am playing now in current markets.

I do have a lot more plays but those are high
risk day trading stocks. Jo should NOT be playing
those, nor playing pump and dump scams.

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Ruskin Mushkin, would you say the following is irrelevant? I have many more..

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I will be posting a few of my picks that went up to 400% gains and then held..many were Nasdaq picks, I posted them mostly here on the Hot stocks...

Here's a couple..."Having a problem pulling up the old threads..

EVST posted at $5.71 hit $20.63
NAVI ''''''''' at $1.25 hit $5.59
MYOG ''''''''' at $20.85 hit $42.27
RNAI ''''''''' at $3.00 hit $8.52


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Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Is their a problem? Yes...Some do not understand a sense of community...

Advertising by entertaining posts brings people into Allstocks..

Some people just don't get it..Idle chit chat amomgst friends is one of the ways for people to get a sense of the character of a poster..

Allstocks thrives? we thrive...This is Wall Street..Isn't advertising one of the key in-greed-ee-ants..

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"lol, coulda missed sumpin..."

Boy, I'll say. You see, boys? Give me a little
space, give me a little freedom and I will
entertain you endlessly.

Bob's advertising revenues have probably
jumped a good one-hundred percent.

People are flocking here by the dozens.

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Posted by BooDog on :
 
ready whipped purl girl WOOOOHOOOOO!!!!
I flocked here and ima learnin and a learnin. Like a sponge. The navy had these flattened dehydrated sponges...just add water and they soak up and grow. lots of good info here and the newbie section. I've refered a few that are interested, after I tell them to stay out of stocks and put their money in mutuals or pay down debt, and paper trade for a while.

[ July 18, 2006, 08:45: Message edited by: BooDog ]
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Boo! LOL, Did ya jump?

posted the pages above so people will see Purls picks...She is trying to Teach people..

This not an ego thing between me and Purl Gurl..
She can smoke me in a New York minute..LOL
 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
no way duster, I'm hangin, actually i just copied that post to my word file for homework and training. I'm not someone to go against anyone, i like input from all, and as i mentioned to glass, I'll help where i can but i know not to give advice - if i see a point i'll make it but i'll be sure to tell them i'm not qualified enough to base a decision on wholly - they should see you guys.


The purl pics keep people comin is all i was sayin lol aaaaand when i said ready whipped i was picturing her in whippid cream!! yeah!!!
 
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LOL, Boo...me thought it said ' Really! whipped..

got me coffee now! waking up....I hope..

BTW, FHAL is one wild mind twister..Geezz, what a confusing mess..
 
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I have been trading for years and have subscribed to a bunch of different newsletters. About a month ago, I found www.thestockadvisors.com

The site has free content from a number of leading newsletter advisors...
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
Jo, today might be a good day to take some profits off gspg around 0.012-0.0125 area.. GLTY!
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=GSPG&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p98320153728

WOW. I'd have to say now would be a great time for GSPG. Check out those charts. Bottom bounce if anything.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
MoneyMoneyMoney - does your username infer what you LOSE on a daily basis? I'd love to hear one of your picks... (IGAI???)
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
Uh, I was in on RSHN, USXP, AXIGE, IDWD. So you are right. HA. You are uneducated Repoman, thats easy to tell.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Yeah yeah, and I was in PGPM, FRPT, NLST, blah blah blah.

Give me a pick for the FUTURE. C'mon, just one.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
in GSPG at 0.0115!!!!
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
made a fast play on FHAL

In at .33-----> 09:35:08 hrs.
Out .41-----> 11:23:56 hrs.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Okay, here is where the rubber meets the road and I need to act and do what I said I am going to do.

Bought FHAL a few days ago at .265, currently it is at .41.

This is where I should take the profit, be happy and not look back. But this is where I always get into trouble, wanting more. And with all this talk of it being in a similar position as NDOL when it made its run, I'm being so tempted to hold it.

Jo
 
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"Bought FHAL a few days ago at .265, currently it is at .41"

Sell this stock, Jo, sell right now.

Does not matter if FHAL continues to move on up.
Lock in your profits, then decide if you want
to buy back in. Get your profits out of there,
sit back a day or two and watch.

Risks are very high, this is a pump and dump,
take your profits, now.

Protect your capital, first. You can always
cuss me out later, but you will have your money.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Jo,,your not staying on course...thought you wanted to sensibaly get out of your mess..You have to decide..
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
Try out MNCS.

It keeps grinding along, gaining about +0.3 - +0.5 % per day and has for months!

What an unbelievable chart.

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=mncs&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p97439987563
 
Posted by LisaPizza on :
 
I WANT TO FOLLOW WITH JO4321 IF IT IS OK. I HAVE 2 STOCKS.

XECHEM AND PILGRAM PETROLEUM

BOTH BOUGHT LAST WEEK. BOTH WENT RIGHT UP.

PILGRAM STARTED COMING DOWN YESTERDAY, XECHEM STARTED COMING DOWN TODAY. I HAVE $10,000 I WAS GIVEN TO INVEST. I PUT $1000 IN EACH OF THESE. I HAVE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE. I NEED LOTS OF HELP. NEVER ****GED OR CHATTED BEFORE. SO I AM NEW. CAN I FOLLOW ALONG HERE TOO.
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
bdgee, watcha think about VOXX for the downhill..
and MAT for long up?
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Thanks Dustoff and Purl for knocking some sense into me. I knew what the prudent thing to do was, I was just paralized with all the P&D hype.

I wasn't getting filled at .40 or .41 so I took it down to .39 and I am out. It feels good. I have a nice profit of $166.50 or 41.887% .

Now to avoid looking at this the rest of the day and saying "what if"!

I feel a real sense of relief!

Jo
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Do you still have a profit in either of those stocks, Lisa?

Jo
 
Posted by LisaPizza on :
 
SO I LOOKED AT MSCS.

LOOK AT THIS. THE CHART JUST GOES UP AND UP. BUT IF YOU READ THIS NEWS FROM AMERITRADE THE COMAPNY CHANGED FROM MINING TO USED CARS? AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF DEBT, AND NO PROFIT. IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME WHY. PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME.


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10-Q: MANCHESTER INC


By Edgar Online - (EDG = 10Q, 10K)
Last Update: 7/17/2006 4:23:42 PM Data provided by

(EDGAR Online via COMTEX) -- ITEM 2. MANAGEMENT'S DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS OF FINANCIAL CONDITIONS AND RESULTS OF OPERATIONS

FORWARD LOOKING STATEMENTS

The following discussion of the financial condition and plan of operations of Manchester Inc. (referred to herein as the "Company," and "we") should be read in conjunction with the financial statements and the related notes thereto included elsewhere in this quarterly report for the period ended May 31, 2006 (this "Report"). This Report contains certain forward-looking statements and the Company's future operating results could differ materially from those discussed herein. Certain statements contained in this Report, including, without limitation, statements containing the words "believes", "anticipates," "expects" and the like, constitute "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of

PLAN OF OPERATION

The Company commenced operations as an exploration stage company. The Company ceased pursuing opportunities in that field upon the lapse of certain mineral rights options in October 2004.

The Company then changed its business plan. The Company intends to acquire and operate "Buy-Here Pay-Here" automobile dealership businesses. The Company currently is in negotiations to acquire an entity or entities in that field of operations.

In the event of an acquisition by the Company, the Company will require additional funding to cover the acquisition costs.

LIQUIDITY

At May 31, 2006, the Company had cash of $115,796.

CAPITAL RESOURCES

At May 31, 2006, we had total liabilities of $1,006,675, of which $890,664 were notes payable. The Company is currently negotiating third-party financing for purposes of both expanding its business and re-paying these liabilities.

RESULTS OF OPERATIONS FOR THE THREE MONTHS ENDED MAY 31, 2006

We did not earn any revenues during the three-month period ending May 31, 2006. We incurred net operating losses in the amount of $310,451 for the three-month period ended May 31, 2006, as compared to $25,564 of net operating losses for the comparable period of the last fiscal year. The increase in net losses in the amount of $284,887 resulted primarily from increases in compensation and benefits, professional fees and consulting fees. The compensation and benefits were incurred as the Company secured professional management personnel during the three months ended May 31, 2006 to prepare the Company for the planned acquisitions of the "Buy-Here, Pay-Here" automobile dealership business.

Our operating expenses were comprised of compensation and benefits of $254,689, professional fees of $30,582, interest on notes payable of $5,532, rent of $5,352, consulting fees of $4,275, and total other expenses of $10,029. The compensation and benefits amount includes $117,400 attributed to the average fair value of the stock options granted.

At May 31, 2006, we had total assets of $600,340, consisting of a refundable deposit of $250,000, deferred acquisition costs of $206,927, cash of $115,796, office equipment net of accumulated depreciation of $13,093, prepaid expenses of $11,500, and other current assets of $3,024. At the same date, our total liabilities were $1,006,675 of which $890,664 were notes payable.

The Company paid a $250,000 refundable deposit (the "Deposit") to Surge Capital ("Surge") for the purpose of assuring coverage of future fees, costs, expenses and disbursements expected to be incurred by Surge in connection with Surge's consideration of providing the Company with a senior secured revolving financing facility ("Due Diligence Expenses"). The Company may pay such Due Diligence Expenses directly or Surge will withdraw amounts from the Deposit to cover the Due Diligence Expenses as such expenses are incurred. In the event Surge does not enter into a financing facility with the Company for any reason, Surge shall return the balance of any unused amounts from the Deposit to the Company. The Company believes that it will close the senior secured revolving financing facility with Surge very shortly, however, there can be no assurance of closing until the completion of due diligence by Surge and execution of definitive documentation by the Company and Surge. The senior secured revolving financing facility would permit the Company to activate its business plan to acquire and operate "Buy-Here Pay-Here" automobile dealership businesses.

Note: As of May 31, 2006, the Company had eight notes outstanding to Brazos Equities LLC in the amounts of $19,000, $40,000, $290,000, $50,000, $100,000, $100,000, $150,000 and $50,000. Brazos Equities LLC is not a related party to the Company. With accrued interest, the total amount owed by the Company to Brazos Equities LLC was $805,520. These notes are unsecured, bear interest at 6% and are payable on demand.

Jul 17, 2006
 
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"or 41.887%"

Excellent profit, very good, Jo.

This stock might continue on up. Again, this
does not matter, you have your money in your
pocketbook where your money belongs.

Now you can relax, no stress, you will think
more clearly. This will help you to decide if
you should buy back in, later.

My suggestion is you stay out of this stock
for at least two days. Risks are too high.

Risk assessment is very critical. Yes, there
is potential to make more profits, doubtful
for this stock, but risks are a greater factor
than are profit potential.

This returns to my suggestion traders make a
lot of small profits, frequently, rather than
try to make huge profits, infrequently.

In the long run, small profit takers make
a lot more money than big profit takers.

Might be others will make fun of you, might
label me an idiot, for selling too soon, but
in the long run, you will make more money
than those who ridicule us.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
no problem Jo, great attitude..
Hey sometime ask the peaser about getting thumped on the head..Ask him about .112 LOL

He is a big boy 6'4" he can take it! I think!!LOL
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
yeah, it's going up already (.45)

It kind of sucks when you watch it go up, but I don't care. Cause no matter how high it goes, there is no guarantee that I would actually sell it there. As when NDOL went up to $1.30, I did not sell it, and now I have NDOL at .27!

Smiles,
Jo
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
TEN - as you know SUWN continues to crash.

I still have not found a reason for this.
No news, no filings, nothing out there
to explain this price crash.

You having any luck figuring out what is happening?

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by LisaPizza on :
 
YES JO4321. BOTH

PILGRAM IS .08 NOW I BOUGHT AT .055

XECHEM IS .043 NOW I BOUGHT AT .034
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"yeah, it's going up already (.45)"

Wait a few hours, wait until tomorrow.
Watch what happens.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
Dust...

I like Voxx a lot if it gets back over the 50dama and can hold it.


On news, MAT should be able to easily bust through resistance at 18.15 and 18.32 with that volume and maybe attack the 52 week high of 19.46 in time.

Looks like good bets, to me.
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:

Protect your capital, first. You can always
cuss me out later, but you will have your money.

Very true! A very, very wise man has pounded this into my head.

It's just about stuck there now, but falls off every so often.
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by LisaPizza:

XECHEM IS .043 NOW I BOUGHT AT .034

You really need to think about getting your profits today IMO.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by LisaPizza:
YES JO4321. BOTH

PILGRAM IS .08 NOW I BOUGHT AT .055

XECHEM IS .043 NOW I BOUGHT AT .034

lisa.. IMO time to move out of xkem for a day or two and get back into it around 0.035-0.038 area if it gets there.

regarding pgpm.. doesnt matter... good idea would be to get out.. POS stock.. i know because i was in it twice..bought it at 0.05 and sold it at 0.22.. bought it back at 0.13 after all hype.. sold it at 0.14 and never touched it again since it was very high risk!
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
LisaPizza,

No, I can't explain what makes MNCS act as it does. I just see the most amazing chart I have ever seen.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Lisa, Turn off your capslock.

Only you can decide, however, if you've got a 45% profit on PGPM, I'd be inclined to take it. You know yourself, that it can go much lower (since you purchased it at .055) I guess it would also depend on how much you've got in there, so that your commission doesn't eat up any profits.

I'm stuck in PGPM after having bought on some hype when it was at .16!

Jo
 
Posted by LisaPizza on :
 
SELL BOTH NOW?
 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
Just my opinion and it's posted before open this morning in the xkem thread, I analyzed xkem doing a bearish triangle, and I doubt it will hit .o5 again until the pr comes out that actually means something. My guess is in a week or sooner this should break through the .03 resistance. I would not buy into such a high risk because I can not shift in and out quickly enough on a small run, especially when something is down trending.


spell checked lol
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
TEN - as you know SUWN continues to crash.

I still have not found a reason for this.
No news, no filings, nothing out there
to explain this price crash.

You having any luck figuring out what is happening?

Purl Gurl

PG go to SEC filing 424 dates 11-19....
PROSPECTUS

SUNWIN INTERNATIONAL NEUTRACEUTICALS, INC.

29,280,004 shares of common stock

This prospectus covers the resale of a total of 29,280,004 shares being offered by selling security holders. Of the shares covered by this prospectus, 13,780,004 shares have been issued and 15,500,000 shares are issuable upon exercise of warrants with exercise prices ranging from $0.15 to $0.167 per share.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
EEK, I can't bear to watch FHAL anymore. (but I'm still okay with my decision)

Jo
 
Posted by LisaPizza on :
 
sorry about the capitals. i did not know it was a problem. if i sell Xechem now, i should have sold this morning when it was .05. how stupid!

going to lunch.

bye bye. be back
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Jo, this is how to know when to hold 'em and
when to fold 'em.

Fundamentals.

This company we write about FHAL is bankrupt.
No revenues, no money, nothing there.

Only pumped up speculation is driving prices
up, and prices will crash. There is no foundation
to support current prices. Current prices are
false facade; pure speculation bubble.

Extreme risks indicate, fold 'em.

ALMI, many of us bought this one back at .12 per
share. We are holding for two years now. Current
price is about 1.90 per share. ALMI has healthy
financials and revenues. Not quite profitable
yet but almost there. This company has substance,
they have products, they have revenue, they have
a lot of money. This indicates, hold 'em.

Fundamentals is what determines a hold or a fold.

You are probably cussing me right now, but you
have your money, you have an ability to keep
playing the game. Right now you should be looking
for another fast in and out play. You should not
be watching this FHAL stock. Move on, forget about
these dreams of what you could have made. Get out
there and make some more money. You are wasting
your time "wishing you had" whatever. Stop wishing
and get busy working on finding more quick profits.

In the long run, you will understand.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Another point of view, Jo.

Had you held and prices suddenly crashed,
what would you be "wishing" right about now?

There are a lot of people out there buying
this stock at unreal high prices. What do
you think will happen to them in a day, in
two days, in a week?

Jo, I insist you read this thread we are keeping
here at Allstocks for a learning lesson.

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/2/ t/012069/p/1.html

Read the entire thread, carefully. Watch for,

****

Down fifty-four cents in a matter of minutes.

looks to be a seventy-five cent
per share loss in less than a half hour.

Well, gosh, down thirty cents in thirty minutes.

Down seventeen cents in the first five minutes
of market today.

Down twenty-two cents in the first half hour
of today

GHLT has crashed fifty-four (54) cents
in less than twenty minutes, just as I indicated
would happen, again.

****

Read that thread. You will learn why it is so
much better to take small profits and not sit
around bemoaning the profits you could have made.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Thanks, Purl, actually I am not cussing you right now.

I understood perfectly what I chose to do. I've been in too many pump & dumps to know what happens.

Like I mentioned just because the stock continues to go up does not mean that I would sell it at that price. To know that would require a crystal ball. My scenario would probably be similar to my plays with three other P&D's I played XKEM, NDOL, STTK

Let's look in on Jo's usual pattern, shall we? Does this scenario sound familiar to anyone else besides me?

ME: Wow, lookee here, I've got 30% profit in this stock !!

P&D thread: This thing is going to the moon!

ME: Wow, now I've got 70% profit!

P&D thread: I think this is going to be a 5 gapper

ME: Wow, a five-gapper, better hold. Now I've got over 100% profit! And there's more to come!

P&D thread: WOOO HOOO! This thing is not going to stop

ME: I'm buying more!

P&D thread: Here's a dip, good buying opportunity

P&D thread: This is just profit takers.

ME: Yeah, just profit taking, I'm going to hold while it goes back up

P&D thread: This should bounce back at these levels. This is definitely the bottom.

ME: Hmmm, now I'm back down to 50% profit, I better sell

ME: Dang, sell orders aren't getting filled, it's tanking faster than I can sell it off

ME: There goes my profit. Wish I would have sold when I had 30%

P&D thread: Silence, no one is posting there anymore.

ME: I hope I make up my losses soon at least enough to break even


This thread was brought to you by STTK, XKEM and NDOL.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
and hundreds of others...
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
EEK, I can't bear to watch FHAL anymore. (but I'm still okay with my decision)

Jo

tough call.. I sold out at 0.195 yesterday for quick 20% profit [Smile] ... now I should be really pissed.. lol
 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
wow jo, that was me not too long ago! These guys smacked me around a bit and knocked some sense into me. lol couldn't have said it better my self. I still can't spell though... not much paper to write on in the engine rooms lol
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Boodog,
Are you in the Navy?

Jo
 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
retired navy working for the navy now
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Jo, your article is a good learning lesson for all.

You will do ok. All of us and I do mean all of us
have gone through your experiences. Even the best
of us still make stupid mistakes.

I learned a long time back to grab the money
and run like crazy.

Always carefully weigh risks versus rewards.

Your "crystal ball" reference is perfect. None
of us have a crystal ball, none of us know with
exacting precision what a stock will do.

This returns to my personal philosophy of earning
ten percent profits on a regular basis rather
than shooting for the moon then crashing and
burning into the sun, which blinds you with wishes.

Only takes _one_ serious loss to wipe you out,
to knock you out of the game, completely.

You have your money, you have your small profit,
you are still sitting at the poker table and
able to make ante.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Glassman, thanks for that buried information
on SUWN. This does help to explain this crash,
although a very severe crash of great surprise.

Lot of us talked about buying SUWN a few weeks
back. Blue and I talked about SUWN at length.
All looked really good, then yesterday and
today came along.

This is yet another example of why traders should
get in and get out as quickly as possible.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by LisaPizza on :
 
ok, i sold both.

pilgram for .077. made a profit of $390.00

xechem for .042. made profit of $225.00

is that good?
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
that only 'splains where the shares might be coming from PG...

you still have to ask yourself why now... [Roll Eyes]

the simple answer is that "somebody can" and they are making a point....
 
Posted by LisaPizza on :
 
now, what should i buy next?
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"you still have to ask yourself why now..."

Precisely, Glassy.

Why now? Rather obvious there is a serious
dump taking place. However, volume is too
low for dilution or a panic sell. This has
me perplexed. This is not a crash which can
be easily explained.

I would like to learn what is happening to
be able to store this information away in
my mind for future reference.

Might be some of those people are selling
to bring in cash for whatever needed reason.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by LisaPizza:
now, what should i buy next?

purl gave some rec. earlier in this thread. Best of luck lisa.
 
Posted by LisaPizza on :
 
no wonder your mad. it has gone up +$.49 just today. the last was .075

FHAL Bid: 0.75 Ask: 0.76 Last: 0.75

($):+ 0.49 Vol: 12,138,273
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
A game for all readers.

Jo made about forty percent profit today, which
is excellent, very excellent. Jo is looking at
percent profit. She is not looking at dollar
amounts which are meaningless.

This game is pretend you are one of those of many
who bought FHAL today at .70 or above. Let's
pretend you bought at .70 per share. In time,
we will discover if you will make forty percent
profit like Jo, like Dusty, like others who
sold much earlier today.

This stock game is all about percentage profit,
never about dollar amounts.

You bought at .70 per, let's see how you do.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by LisaPizza on :
 
what page boodog?
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"no wonder your mad."

you're

Earning forty percent profit certainly
would not make me mad. I question if
your hindsight attitude is healthy.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
in isig at 2.7.
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
I write,

"Only takes _one_ serious loss to wipe you out,
to knock you out of the game, completely."

Reminds me of one of my stories, told before.

I am helping my husband work on a rental down
the street from this rental we talked about
somewhere else.

So I am being lazy, decide to vanish for a bit.
I am talking to a man next door. Eventually
talk moves around to investing.

He explains he lost his family's life savings in
the stock markets, had to refinance his home
to support his family. His wife and kids leave
him right off, correctly so.

He lost his family's savings. Refinancing their
home wiped out their equity growth over the
years. Now he has nothing but debt. Both their
savings and their home equity is gone.

My hope was to move in like a vulture and buy
his house, but this did not happen. He could
not afford to sell although he only refinanced
for eighty percent of market value. I had hoped
to lowball him ninety percent below market,
then turn around and sell a year or two later
for maybe a twenty to thirty percent profit.

Lesson here is, as I write previously, you only
need to make one serious mistake to be tossed out
of the game, for good. That man, being older, will
never recoup his losses; he is out for good.

You can piss and moan about all the profits
you could have made, do this all you want.
However, if you take a serious loss, I doubt
you will be singing much of a tune.

We read all the time people complaining about
profits not made. We rarely read those people
confessing to losing a lot of money, which
they do.

My always suggestion is to play the markets
very conservatively, very safely, so you will
survive to play again another day.

One bad mistake, hasta la bye bye, from the
wife and the kids.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
ok, i sold both.

pilgram for .077. made a profit of $390.00

xechem for .042. made profit of $225.00

is that good?

Well, look at it this way: You made $615.00 in what a few days?

Someone earning minimum wage would have to work 3 weeks to gross that amount. Even the guys that work for my dh at the factory making 10.50 an hour would have to work over a week to make that. I'd say you done good.

Now since you are starting out so well, the key for you is to not get greedy as I did and end up in the hole, by chasing profits and not knowing when to get out.

Jo
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
retired navy working for the navy now
My dh retired from the Navy in 2004. We used to live down there in Virginia too.

I miss it.

Jo
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Jo:

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi/ubb/get_topic/ f/2/t/001883/p/2.html?#000042

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Jo, add TCLL at .22 per share to your paper trading.
Let's see how you would do on this one in sixty days.

A price of .22 "should" be the lowest price this one
will reach. Paper it and discover if worthwhile.

Should your paper trading prove successful, overall,
return to those stocks you listed and discover
what all have in common through good research.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Okay, so now that I have some profits from FHAL (80.00 the first time I sold it and $166.00) the second time. Should I put those profits back into FHAL in anticipation of this big run over the next few days? Even with only $250.00 bucks invested if it goes even halfway to the $15.00 I'd recover all my losses. (it's now at .69)

quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
super nice guy... everyone should call and talk to him. real nice and has no problem explaining anything. (although, real hard to understand:) and maybe not EVERYONE, but just saying)

so, the $15 is not a joke. he said the symbol change will be around the 28th-1st. He submitted some financials and forms and we should expect a PR within the next few days. He is still buying the float and will continue to do so until it is completely gone. They will be "going a different avenue" with the amazon project... to garbled to exactly understand him but he made it clear they *will* be doing that shortly.

and catia, he said he doesn't see any problem with going long. with projects coming up and trying to get onto the nasdaq...

i dunno what to say. i guess i may hold this till the symbol change haha.... this is crazy. dunno if i'm going to dump too much in, don't wanna be caught with my pants down;) but yeah... you guys be the judge....


 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
not sure if it affects your account funds or not but don't buy with unsettled funds. that will lock you in for the 3 days.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
No I have a margin account. (but not the $25,000 day trading account). But I only use cash. I'm in enough trouble without borrowing to buy stuff. LOL.

I'm looking for an EOD dip on FHAL and maybe I'll give it a go. This time, I'll know to get out quick if it starts dropping like a rock.

Jo
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Jo, if you would have mortgaged the house yesterday on FRPT, you could have bought a new BMW today.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
True dat!

I have a lot invested (at least for me) in FRPT, so I'll just keep what I've got. I bought some of FRPT in my IRA too, and that is not play around money like this other is! I've got to be very careful in there.

Jo
 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
thats good jo, I only have a cash account...until i gain experiance that's all i will have. working on getting my cash level up now, i like the idea of having 50% cash avail.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Yeah, but you can still call and get a margin account so that you don't have to wait for funds to settle. That way you can get out quickly if you have to.

But then you have to have the discipline NOT to buy on margin even though you technically could.

Well, FHAL isn't dipping very much so I guess I'm not getting in there. Probably for the best.

Jo
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
BooDog,

Jo is right, if you have the discipline to not go over your cash on hand, a margin trading account makes it a lot easier to trade.....a lot easier to take profits....
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
For those of you following my saga and have been helping me, I'm happy to report my progress here:

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/9/ t/001679.html

Besides taking a profit on FHAL (albeit maybe a tad early), I made one other good move at the last minute when I decided to "divest" of my XLPI that I bought at .013. I sold it at .013 at only a slight loss because I had those free trades from Ameritrade. But that gives me another $300.00 that's not in POS stocks. And it is now at .012.

Jo
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
JO? you were able to sell XLPI at .013? that's the HOD...
if they bought that from you on the HOD? the MM's are accumulating...

on the flip side of that? if the MM's sell to you at BID prices? they are dumping
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
Jo, XLPI should have easily given you anywhere between 0.014-0.015. an exit of 0.013 wasnt the best. no wonder MM's scrambled to grab all shares they could get.. like the way purl has pointed out.. watch out for IESV .. its not very attractive after todays run but might be something you might want to watch out after it dips.
 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
hey rm looks like i had xkem pegged today eh?
 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
BooDog,

Jo is right, if you have the discipline to not go over your cash on hand, a margin trading account makes it a lot easier to trade.....a lot easier to take profits....

true true. just taking baby steps.
 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
xlpi had a good volume for where it is and its status. I wouldn't quite say it's done yet. should have some good revenue coming in with its ethenol converters or whatever there called.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BooDog:
hey rm looks like i had xkem pegged today eh?

lol Boo.. out of Xkem yesterday at 0.042 for quick 20%.. come on man... i told you.. charts.. charts tell you.. everyone knew the resistance of 0.05 was hard to break.. i told you it was bullish before 3 days. since then it had gone up 75%.. after which it fell. I shall again tell you it will touch 0.03 tomorrow and bounce back.. but i will still wait for second day for any confirmation of bounce since second time bounces are harder to predict than the first time bounces off the trend lines..
 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
cool rusk, I think i'll just put that 1 out of mind for a while anyway. Got bigger fish to fry and have lots of homework.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
Interesting article on yahoo finance in case some people have missed it.. worth a read definitely.. especially suited for big board stocks

Patience Can Pay Off With Winning Stocks
Monday July 17, 7:00 pm ET
Christina Wise

In a bull market, a winning stock needs room to run.

Say you buy a stock that's breaking out of a base and it quickly rockets north. Though it might be tempting to take some of your winnings off the table, it's often a better idea to hold on for the ride.

Let the stock's daily price-volume action and behavior of the major stock indexes determine whether to sell or sit tight.

This is especially true if the stock breaks out and zips up 20% or more in just a few weeks. That shows it has power and is worth hanging onto for at least eight weeks to see if it becomes a big winner.

A dicey market, such as the current one, makes the decision to hold or sell a little tougher. Be alert for the following sell signals:

Climax top or exhaustion gap after a big run-up.

Heavy volume with little price progress.

Forms a late-stage base.

Slices through a key moving average such as the 10-week line on heavy volume and fails to rally back.

Makes a new high on light trade.

Falls more than 7% from your buy point.

But if these danger signals fail to appear and the stock continues to behave normally, stay invested.

It's also important to remember that a big winner will forge a series of bases and pullbacks to its 10-week moving average as it scales the chart.

For instance Autodesk (NASDAQ:ADSK - News) ran up 228% in a little over a year beginning in late 2003. In addition to forming two bases during its run, the stock also periodically pulled back to its 10-week line, where it found support.

FTI Consulting (NYSE:FCN - News) gained a whopping 565% in 116 weeks after breaking out of a base on Jan. 31, 2001. Like Autodesk it staged a string of bases and pullbacks to its 10-week line on its journey north. Investors who withstood them were well-rewarded.

Mobile TeleSystems (NYSE:MBT - News) shot out of its base on Feb. 28, 2003, moving past its 41.60 buy point as volume nearly tripled (point 1). The move came after the stock market found its bottom in October 2002, but before its March 2003 follow-through that signaled the start of a new rally.

But Mobile's fundamentals were solid. After seeing its earnings growth falter in 2002, the Russian telecommunications company's earnings rose 46% in December 2002 quarter.

Over the next four quarters, its earnings growth rate came in at 79% or higher. Similarly, sales grew 58% in the December 2002 quarter and hit 80% in the first quarter of 2003 and 92% in the second quarter.

The stock's IBD Ratings were also strong and its Telecom-Wireless Services industry group was performing well.

Mobile headed northward, hugging its 10-week moving average along the way -- a positive sign.

In August 2003, it cleared a second base, giving investors the opportunity to add shares (point 2). It broke out of its third base -- a cup-with-a-high-handle in January 2004 (point 3) and again headed higher.

Investors who stuck with the stock during its normal pullbacks, consolidations and breakouts were rewarded. By the time Mobile notched a peak in early April 2004 (point 4), it was up nearly 240% from its first buy point.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
Jo, XLPI should have easily given you anywhere between 0.014-0.015. an exit of 0.013 wasnt the best. no wonder MM's scrambled to grab all shares they could get
That's okay, I'm just trying to consolidate and get some cash together on positions that I'm not in a huge loss. I still have more XLPI that I bought at .020 [Frown] I've got a sell in for that at .017 for another small loss.

Jo
 
Posted by Tradintexas on :
 
a great read
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
TEN - as you know SUWN continues to crash.

I still have not found a reason for this.
No news, no filings, nothing out there
to explain this price crash.

You having any luck figuring out what is happening?

Purl Gurl

Not a darn thing can I find...remember when I put a small order in yesterday? Filled within seconds...? Sold that today...and took almost as quickly...I lost $10 on it(commission fees only)but better to loose commision fees than actual Capital...

What is curious to me is the speed at which both orders were filled...and as I said..FOUND NOTHIN'

HMMMM????!!!!
 
Posted by blue_in_MI on :
 
i too have been wondering about SUWN's downward drift. several prominent chinese stocks have been downdrifting lately as well: CXTI, ETLT, etc.. maybe temporarily "out of fashion", maybe people concerned about world geopolitical problems, dunno.

this happens frequently - what looks to be a solid stock seems to drift down for no readily visible reason. sometimes it just seems to get oversold or someone elects to liquidate a large position in a thinly traded stock and the support level drops as a result. sometimes there seems to be a reason, or more pointedly: some kind of leak. examples abound, most recent i came across was IAIC: they dipped before their slightly disappointing last Q, no doubt some people close to the company found out and sold.

SUWN's case: hard to speculate. am definitely watching it these days though. i thought it got way overbought awhile ago, but - is starting to look more attractive now at these prices. a little lower dip and i'd probably be in for a little, we'll see what the next few days of trading bring
 
Posted by 66inxs on :
 
pg it looks like today might be the day for NWD. you mentioned this stock earlier and it is gapping before market today. this is not a pump or a solicitation to purchase this stock. dyodd as this could either run or tank this morning. none of us will know until the market opens. glta and have a good trading day. newbs don't forget to check l2's as they are an important indicator of what is going on !
 
Posted by 66inxs on :
 
be really careful with nwd it has a lot of L2 activity and i am not sure where mm's are going with it today. ?????????????? could be good or could be bad. might be a good one to watch closely on radar today
 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by LisaPizza:
what page boodog?

page 3 sry, you probably already found it.
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
NWD, nah, a very safe stock. This one will very
slowly increase in share price, very slowly.

This NWD is a good safe bet for those new
to trading stocks. Give NWD a few weeks,
modest safe profits will come in.

FHAL, a real surprise! However, I am noting
a lot of traders jumped out early, well before
a dollar a share. Many are jumping in and out.

In time, FHAL _must_ crash really hard. There
is intense pumping and dumping going on at
all the stock boards.

Do not allow yourself to become caught up
in the hard fast crash. This will happen
so fast, no chance to get out.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
DVPC, buy some at .06 / .065 then wait a couple
of weeks then sell at .075 / .08 per.

Safe slow moving stock. DVPC very rarely falls
below .06 per, very rarely.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
DVPC Pump &Dump...
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"DVPC Pump &Dump..."

You are full of ignorant crap.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
"DVPC Pump &Dump..."

You are full of ignorant crap.

Purl Gurl

haa... come on purl.. DVPC was on pennybusters site for a while. do you want me to post penny busters newsletter, which btw is online for readers to take a look, urging people to buy everytime it trades in ranges you mentioned? dont talk if you dont know. go visit IHUB pennybusters page. look for when he mentions DVPC. look for spike in price. look how quickly it falls. again newbies are cautioned against pump and dump stocks. there are plenty out there which are better.. and would offer much better returns.
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"haa... come on purl.."

No, as before, I will not play your stupid game.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
personal attacks.. i am not going to respond.. either way.. newbie readers are adviced to be cautious since dvpc is highly risky. however, if you can bear the risk, then this has easy 20-30% in it and company has good fundamentals..
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
http://www.pennybuster.com/dvpc.htm
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
hope rookie traders have taken advantage of my warning and stayed awat from this pump and dump scenario [Smile]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Purl..you stated your warnings on FHAL...but could you take a look at this and post a thought or 2 here...?

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060719/clw531.html?.v=25

I'm still trying to figure it all out...and looking for the loop whole that gets these guys off the hook for paying the $15.00/pps

all i can think of is that it will take some time on the "trading" front for all to change...and by the the price might drop?

Thoughts?
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I played FHAL again today. I was probably overly cautious, but I took a small profit again. (in at .67 out at .88) Now I am in again at a fairly high price ($1.04)so will be looking at this PR and the 8K very carefully tonight.

Jo
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
OK...this statement is "confusing"

The share conversion upon the 10KSB filing (Audited Financial) will be a 1 for 1 ration. Each shareholder of CVSU will receive one share of FHAL

I am in FHAL...not CVSU...ONLY CVSU share holders will reicieve one share of FHAL for each of the CVSU that they hold? I get nothin'?
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
congrats to all FHAL holders including me.. I wish I hadnt sold large portion of my shares at 0.195 [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] .. this news puts me up 40K.. GLTA!
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
nice point 10.. let me look into the PR more cautiously. i hope i wasnt partying too soon [Smile]
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
My progress for anyone following:

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi/ubb/get_topic/ f/9/t/001679.html?

Another green day today.

Jo
 
Posted by Buford Baucom on :
 
Hi,

What would be the best penny stock to buy first thing tomorrow morning?

Also, what is the best penny stock book to buy and read?

Thanks.

BB
 
Posted by Buford Baucom on :
 
Hi,

Who are the best and smartest people to take advice from on this site who can help a newbie learn?

BB
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ruskin_muskin:
nice point 10.. let me look into the PR more cautiously. i hope i wasnt partying too soon [Smile]

After posting that...i read more on the 8k..it seems that this step of "paying out' will be after the merger...and then "i" will at that time be considered a CVSU share holder...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Buford Baucom:
Hi,

Who are the best and smartest people to take advice from on this site who can help a newbie learn?

BB

you are on the right thread...people are posting here to "help" Newbies learn...if you have some questions I think that you can post them...and they may get answered...try starting at the begining of the thread...and you will see who to listen to and who to maybe avoid...GLTY!
 
Posted by Tradintexas on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Buford Baucom:
Hi,

Who are the best and smartest people to take advice from on this site who can help a newbie learn?

BB


 
Posted by Tradintexas on :
 
read this whole post for starters
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Hi guys,

I have improved my losses by over 3% since the beginning of this thread.

What do you guys think of GSPG? I bought it at .013 and now it is .013.

I also have to make a quick decision on FHAL, so that I don't end up with another NDOL or XKEM in my account!

Jo
 
Posted by portman on :
 
If I were in it i would get out asap. But that is just MHO. [Smile]
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
Hi guys,

I have improved my losses by over 3% since the beginning of this thread.

What do you guys think of GSPG? I bought it at .013 and now it is .013.

I also have to make a quick decision on FHAL, so that I don't end up with another NDOL or XKEM in my account!

Jo

Jo,

GSPG is running on speculation of short squeeze. time to actually get out if you are green on it. latest pre says authorised shares have increased by 4Billion. In addition reverse split decision coming up in August. so this is right time to get out imo.

FHAL too complex. i am holding onto few of my shares since they are frees and i have made my profits. i guess if you have lot at stake, time to take some profits and let remaining shares be as risk free as possible just so you dont crash.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
aaaahhh the sun is up. The pool is open and I found an outlet by the pool hidden in the bushes. [Smile]
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Be careful you don't get electrocuted, Portman. And don't forget the sunscreen.

Jo
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Well, I wasn't green, but I got out of GSPG at .013 with only a loss of commission. If I had waited a bit, I might have been able to sell at .0134-0138, but I that one has been down as much as .0007

I also got out of FHAL at 1.37. Currently it is $1.15 and I'm thinking about taking one more crack it it with just my $300.00 profits.

Jo
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Any one have any thoughts on XSNX? quite low...right now...
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
LOL! XSNX is one of my bags!

Jo
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
xsnx.. might be a good point for entry.. i will wait for reversal to be confirmed.. dont know why huge selloff..
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
LOL! XSNX is one of my bags!

Jo

Ouch...sorry...I have been in and out from about .45...through to about 2.00...haven't played in a couple of months...was wondering why it went to low...
 
Posted by Free Muney on :
 
xsnx looks good if and when it stops tanking... do
they have a earnings report out soon? maybe causing
a speculative sell off?
 
Posted by Free Muney on :
 
Purl(or anyone else who has more of a clue than i),

IESV releases huge news, that they can now produce natural gas from cow poo(which sounds like enormous profit potential and are the first to do this) and the stock price barely flinches. Any idea why? do investors need solid numbers to be released before the change will be noticed?
 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
Maybe the sound of the poo as it splashes into the vats will help....lmao
 
Posted by MagicK on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Free Muney:
Purl(or anyone else who has more of a clue than i),

IESV releases huge news, that they can now produce natural gas from cow poo(which sounds like enormous profit potential and are the first to do this) and the stock price barely flinches. Any idea why? do investors need solid numbers to be released before the change will be noticed?

"Any idea why?"



People don't like to invest in crap? Wild guess.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Today's update:

I feel frustrated again. I was very cautious in when I sold FHAL today, took another 30% profit and was feeling good about that. Also got rid of my GSPG, so now I have more cash, although I took a loss of commission on that one.

But so many of my other positions went down that I'm nearly back where I started from as far as losses go. The good news is that I am consolidating and am now down to holding only 23 positions in my non-ira account. My goal is to get down to only 10 positions without taking huge losses in what I have.

Prior Deficit: $1675 (-6.75%)
Today's Deficit: $2,279.30 (-8.94%) [Frown]

Altogether, I made $449.00 on FHAL over three trades. However, had I just held it from .265 and sold it today at 1.37 (where I sold my latest batch), I'd have made $1636.00! But I guess that defeats my "small gains at a time rule" and would have been much more risky.

Jo
 
Posted by shoot-the-messenger on :
 
From the book: Reminiscenes of a Stock Operator
page 53

About the time I discovered what a small percentage of what I should have made I was getting, I discovered something else, and that is that suckers differ amoung themselves according to the degree of experience.

The tyro knows nothing,and everybody,including himself,knows it. But the next,or second-grade thinks he knows a great deal and makes others feel that way too. He is the experienced sucker,who has studied-not the market itself but a few remarks about the market made by a still higher grade of suckers.The second-grade sucker knows how to keep from losing his money in some of the ways that get the raw beginner. It is this semisucker rather than the 100% article who is the real all the year round support of the commissiion houses. He last about three and a half years on an average, as compared with a single season of from three to thirty weeks,which is the usual Wall Street life of a first offender. It is naturally the semisucker who is always quoting the famous trading aphorisms and the various rules of the game. He knows all the don'ts that ever fell from the oracular lips of the old stagers-excepting the principal one,which is: Don't be a sucker!

There's nothing new in Wall Street Jo. This book written more than 70 years ago is timeless advice and will give you a feel and flavor for the market from someone who understood and knew them well.
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"Never give a sucker an even break."
- W.C. Fields

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
 
Purl ever hear of Nic Lite?
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
July 11, 2006 Contact: Joel Spivak 202.296.5469

FDA Urged to Stop Marketing of “Nic Lite” Bottled Water Containing Nicotine

Washington, DC - The Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids and the Public Citizen Health Research Group today wrote to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to urge the agency to immediately stop the marketing of “Nic Lite,” a bottled water containing significant amounts of highly addictive nicotine. Each 8-ounce bottle of Nik[sic] Lite contains the same amount of nicotine as two cigarettes. The letter from the organizations urges the FDA to immediately initiate enforcement action against the manufacturer, Nico Worldwide, Inc.

The FDA informed Nico Worldwide, Inc. on June 29, 2006, that Nic Lite is an unapproved new drug, not a dietary supplement, yet the company continues to mislead consumers regarding the product. The Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids and Public Citizen also urged the FDA to investigate whether Nico Worldwide, Inc. should be prosecuted criminally.

The letter states “Nico Worldwide has continually and willfully flouted FDA’s consistent rulings that bottled water containing nicotine is a drug, not a dietary supplement, … and has continued to mislead consumers regarding the nature and safety of Nic Lite.”

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
 
THANKS.
 
Posted by money 76 on :
 
guys i need some help

i purchased igss.pk sometime back and it was suspended by sec in may .

i have seen very little trading after the suspension got over .

what do you think of this company . will it trade again .

has anytime company after suspended started trading again

igss was 0.04 before suspension now it is at 0.001. pls help
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
money they may start trading again..but it might be on the "gray sheets"..very screwie trading ...
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
"has anytime company after suspended started trading again"

yes, best example i know of is folks trade SSTY on greys....

I wouldn't do it, but, hey--that's just me...lol, I'm waiting on one of my geekies to resume trading....BCIT got suspended late last summer/early fall supposedly 15c-211 about to be filed we'll see...

good luck with it...
 
Posted by money 76 on :
 
when i go to igss.pk i dont see no information

no bid no ask no market cap . only profile

i tried to go on their website its showing under construction.

but today it said webpage available for sale.

there is no information available on pinksheets.com also.
 
Posted by money 76 on :
 
stock traded after suspension

one day it showed 0.10 and the other day it shows 0.001 . why is that ?

and recently few days back i see volume like 14000 shares traded and 5000 shares traded

will this stock ever trade or its bankrupt
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Sounds like the greys to me...call your broker...and ask...or just try putting an order to sell...and leave it..maybe it will take...
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
What do you guys think of PAIV? Or PAIM? Both are squeeze plays. Unfortunately, I think it might be too late for PAIV, but talk is that PAIM has the same scenario going for it.

(MY dh's boss just made $100,000 in PAIV...how come he didn't tell us about before today!?)

Jo
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
What do you guys think of PAIV? Or PAIM? Both are squeeze plays. Unfortunately, I think it might be too late for PAIV, but talk is that PAIM has the same scenario going for it.

(MY dh's boss just made $100,000 in PAIV...how come he didn't tell us about before today!?)

Jo

there is no shortsqueeze crap. shakerz was on paiv.. now he is on paim.. beware of shakerz plays if you dont know how to play. get in early, get out early,, and never look back during group plays.. also be thorough about usage of L2's during group plays.. i personally will never touch either of them!
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
July 11, 2006 Contact: Joel Spivak 202.296.5469

FDA Urged to Stop Marketing of “Nic Lite” Bottled Water Containing Nicotine

Washington, DC - The Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids and the Public Citizen Health Research Group today wrote to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to urge the agency to immediately stop the marketing of “Nic Lite,” a bottled water containing significant amounts of highly addictive nicotine. Each 8-ounce bottle of Nik[sic] Lite contains the same amount of nicotine as two cigarettes. The letter from the organizations urges the FDA to immediately initiate enforcement action against the manufacturer, Nico Worldwide, Inc.

The FDA informed Nico Worldwide, Inc. on June 29, 2006, that Nic Lite is an unapproved new drug, not a dietary supplement, yet the company continues to mislead consumers regarding the product. The Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids and Public Citizen also urged the FDA to investigate whether Nico Worldwide, Inc. should be prosecuted criminally.

The letter states “Nico Worldwide has continually and willfully flouted FDA’s consistent rulings that bottled water containing nicotine is a drug, not a dietary supplement, … and has continued to mislead consumers regarding the nature and safety of Nic Lite.”

Purl Gurl

...and to think. I thought they were talking about a new NICK channel. [Smile]
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Jo...hang tough. People are not just on this thread for good tips. They want to see you make it.
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
DELL is getting turned into cream cheese..Down
14%
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
water stocks out performing oil stocks...Water meters?
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Thanks, Portman. I know you guys are rooting for me.

I'm gonna make you proud! LOL!

JO
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"I know you guys are rooting for me."

Yeah, those boys are a bunch of pigs
grubbing for roots.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
out of isig at 3.42. in chdt at 0.114.
 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
cruisin the thread...

[ July 21, 2006, 11:51: Message edited by: BooDog ]
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BooDog:
china stocks are risky dont you think rm? higher risk than most any way from what i've seen, in and out on the momo i guess is how to play it.

chinese stocks are risky Boo.. agree with you on that.. but at same time cant ignore a company with an insane 11M revenue inflow, 2800% growth, and permissions to do supplies for florida, and settled lawsuit which will come into balance sheet as profits now.. and trading at 0.1 range.. IMO the company should show significant profits on balance sheet.. momentum.. maybe.. remember.. shakerz did not get into it until it soared to 0.075-0.08 range. he only got onto it from that region purely based on charts. I have been obeserving him doing chart plays these days rather than generating some "real" momentum.. and he is out of it now and that gives me a safe entry point.. fundamentals seem good.. and thats what I am betting on.. moreover chart is showing reversal pattern from here and should show consolidation.. it might just get ready for next leg IMO!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ruskin_muskin:
out of isig at 3.42. in chdt at 0.114.

Seems you got in kinda high for today??? It tends to go down on Fridays...from what I have seen...I'm in also...
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by ruskin_muskin:
out of isig at 3.42. in chdt at 0.114.

Seems you got in kinda high for today??? It tends to go down on Fridays...from what I have seen...I'm in also...
yeah i can see that.. didnt know on the weekly patterns of chdt.. i got in because of charts.. lets see if my prediction holds.. all it has to do is close above 0.11.. and if it closes above 0.125 today.. then its gonna be a HUGE rally on Monday..which i dont expect.. it might just go up slowly for now.. their financials are due sometime soon.. isnt it? should show significant profitability.. two-three quarters of profit should make this stock trade atleast at 0.4.. and then it would be 400% money in the bank [Smile] .. i will hold this for a while since pumpers are out of it..hopefully for good!
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
anyone watching PMTR? trying to shoot back to the new highs again..just something to watch for!
 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
might check out RDY for you rich folks
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
in xsnx for reversal at 0.44.. averaged down on chdt.. thx 10 for headsup on friday fact [Smile] .. i stuck to the computer and waited for the price..

[ July 21, 2006, 14:37: Message edited by: ruskin_muskin ]
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
Damn.. CHDT almost closed at 0.11.. except last tick when someone bought it back to 0.019 [Frown] .. disappointing.. but actually maybe, its not a trader doing it but simply MM's trying to give support to charts.. nevertheless.. nice finish on both CHDT and xsnx.. hope it was good day for everyone else on the boards...
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
WOO HOO!
One of my stocks went up 300% today!

BOO HOO!
It was one I was previously down 79%!

Sooo, so because it had gone up so much in one day, I feared profit takers so I pretty much just broke even and got the heck out of it. It was IMJX, that I previously bought for .0024, it sank to .0007 as of yesterday, but I got out at .0027. Made 20 bucks, but more importantly improved my portfolio a bit, since that loss is no longer in there.

Other than that event, not too much happenning. Some up, some down, but nothing especially noteworthy. Oh, I did buy some more FHAL at $1.00 with profits only. It's up so far, but I'm keeping a close watch on it on Monday.

Yesterdays deficit: $2279 (-8.94%)
Current deficit: 2010 (-7.89)

But the good news is that since Monday morning, I've gone from over 10% in losses to just under 8% in losses.

What will Monday bring?

Jo
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
Jo?

the main thing is you *are* paying more attention...

may have mentioned this before...but for safety's sake? will repeat--maintain a journal....distill "why" you enter, exit strategy implemented *immediately* upon fill, then results.

Review daily...carry questions foward for later review
 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
sounds good Jo ...... From the "Boo"
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Here is a few ya might look at..
ZHNE
LVCT
NOOF
KAD
VMC
MCM

And another word scramble----->Bdgee----> BDGE
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Tex, good idea about the notebook. I need to track that kind of stuff. I have one that I used when I first started trading where I wrote down some stocks to research. It's funny to look back at it now and see how different the prices are today. Some are not different at all, most are a lot lower, and some don't exist anymore. And this was only three months ago.

I have a spreadsheet I created that I call "what if scenarios" where I can plug numbers in of various pps and number of shares to help me plan an exit strategy. Taking Purl's advice of looking at percentages instead of dollar amounts has helped with this.

Jo
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
bump
 
Posted by Buford Baucom on :
 
Hi,

There it is! Thank you, thank you, thank you!

BB
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
out of xsnx at 0.535.. in isig at 3.08.. hope everyone is having wonderful day.. FHAL is having a wonderful day!
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
UBDE making a big run today - staying up at the high with good volume - previous levels of 1.50.
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Results for today...

ZHNE---Down -.75% after huge drop friday
LVCT---" " - symbol error
NOOF---" " -.59%
KAD----" " -7.34%
VMC----Up -4.78%
MCM----Up -3.79%
BDGE---Up -.40%
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Today I am feeling that I can see a light at the end of the tunnel. My big board stocks were all in the green which helped my overall portfolio, FRPT was up .21 and since that is my biggest position, that also helped. I also flipped FHAL again for a $220.00 profit. Put some of what I sold back in for tommorrow, but overall, things are looking up.

Deficit as of Friday: $2010 (-7.89%)
Deficit today: $1,091.13 (-4.28%)
Improvement $919.99 and up 3% since Friday

Once I get out of the deficit, I need to learn to trade and set my buys and sells without constantly watching the ticker. It's addicting and I really should be doing other things too. Of course, I'm probably preaching to the choir here.

Jo
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
steady as she goes... Jo...steady

watching the ticker? depends on the play...on some, you need to be right there, will your finger on the trigger...perhaps you are saying you'll save those for trading seasons to come...not a bad idea.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Yes, I realize that now. That is why I am only buying when I have the ability to buy and set a sell point at the same time, as many of you have suggested. I sub, so when I'm working, I cannot play these momo plays. Without the ability to set stop losses on pennies, that is kind of what got me into trouble in the first place.

Does anyone else agree with what I've posted in this thread about the different boards here on Allstocks? It's getting hard to keep up with two different threads during a big run. Don't post an answer to that question here, but if you'd like to discuss it, post it in that thread. Thanks! Jo
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
Great decision on holding good position on FRPT. it shall head higher steadily.. meanwhile, xsnx might have a good exit point here if you are not very comfortable holding it. I got out today a little early with quick 15% profit from friday.. but looks like it went all the way up.. sevi is in pump and dump peoples hands and plenty of groups are working on it.. so might be a good idea to get rid of it around prices of 0.0125 when its pumped again, before it goes all the way down! I shall update you if i get any e-mail from them, since i subscribe to almost all the P&D newsletters... GLTY!
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Thanks Ruskin_Muskin!
Jo
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
"Without the ability to set stop losses on pennies, "

you can, with Choicetrade...

(btw. answered your "other" question)
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Purl Gurl...I posted this on the FHAL thread...

Where's PURL? She'll set me straight...Figures I need to "lean" on a woman...LOL...

HELP!!! Convince me!
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"Figures I need to "lean" on a woman."

I most certainly am not a lean woman.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
Purl, do you know if the MM can see whether they are buying a short sale from the retail seller?

they must be able to enforce the down tick rule right?
 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
did anyone look at RDY last week? went from 26.43 when i mentioned it now at 28.... looks to gain more. Worth looking into IMO.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Continued improvement today, although I'm not sure how long some of these gains will hold so I'm not planning the party yet.

Big gains in FRPT today, and a couple of my other big boards. I threw a hundred thirty bucks in WWEN, which doubled, but I'm still in there. I have my FHAL profits riding and there was a bit of trouble with that today. Tommorrow could see those profits gone!(Shouldn't have tried to make that 5th play, Purl, but at least this time I was well aware of the risks)

But for today a good report
Yesterday: Down $1,091.13 (-4.28%)
Today: Down $593.47 (-2.33%)

JO
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Here's a big board stock for your review. JLG Industries (JLG)

I think that it could be a great buy in point. The chart seems to show the double bottom at the high $17's. It was at a similar low last year around this time last year (52-week low July 26, 2005 $14.40 adjusted for split) before going to 52-week high of 32.49 in April 2006.

Here's the chart - see the W?

 -

This company's fiscal year ends on July 31, so the earnings report could send it on the rise. They had record earnings for the Third quarter. JLG 3rd Quarter Earnings PR .
I bought in at that point, but the PPS actually went down on the news after an initial spike.

According to that PR, they expect earnings to be up 30% for fiscal 2006 over fiscal 2005

I'm hoping all these indicators mean that this will go up, and I'm considering getting more at these prices.

What do you guys think?

[ July 26, 2006, 00:18: Message edited by: Jo4321 ]
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
What do I think?
Across the Big boards we have a disturbing trend devolping for some time now..

"Selling into good news"

Over valuations by the investment/trader community is what seems to be the thinking..
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dustoff 1:
What do I think?
Across the Big boards we have a disturbing trend devolping for some time now..

"Selling into good news"

Over valuations by the investment/trader community is what seems to be the thinking..

have been observing that trend dustoff.. very sad but true.. except in sub $10 area, this scenario has been manifesting in almost all the companies offlate.. atleast in second quarter.. one reason can be maybe they cannot support these record earnings in future quarters, which may or may not be true. Classic Bear market in play here. I am keeping close eye on some metal stocks. this quarter should be good for them. I shall open a thread sometime soon, with some of the good plays. currently, I am in PAL.

There was a golden rule veterans used to follow. Never buy during earning reports especially if they are extremely good [Smile] .. guess thats even more true in bear market..
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
Classic example here [Smile] ..

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=rcii&d=t
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
So if earnings are down, the stock would go down. If they have record earnings the stock goes down. You can't win?

Anyway, what do you think of the chart? If you look at the one year chart you can see how it was just as low (well lower) last year and then there was a steady climb with almost no downturn until April.

I'm still learning the charting stuff, but I'm seeing the double bottom.

Jo
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
Jo,

I think its sector underperformance. you might see some similarity of the chart to CAT. weather it will go up or down? I am not knowledgable enough in this sector, but from charts, I see it going back up! left it to myself, i would wait for it to go above $20, and wait for a day when this sucker would not touch $20.01, and that would be perfect buy signal for me into this stock.
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Boeing to announce earnings...

Market effect?

Will they sell into report if good?
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Jefferies and company call's
Boeing
$100.00 PPS within 12 months.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
boeng has weak results.. but you can never tell how it impacts stock performance though!
 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
http://biz.yahoo.com/ft/060726/fto072620061045302098.html?.v=1

interesting how these affect trends. Summer time have anything to do with this?
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
I kicked some hard ass today with BTUI. POS up 9.94%.. I got in around 10.. damn thing, went spiralling down after record earnings.. and then two consecutive days. lost 25% of its value for no goddamn reason. damn i hate stocks which dont respect good revenues and money inflow!!!!!!! another example to support what dustoff said!!!!
 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
lookin good for rdy caught the dip at 26.43 and up to 28.77 charts lookin pretty good for now - too bad it's on paper

[ July 27, 2006, 07:36: Message edited by: BooDog ]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Any one have an opinion on EGIL. I have been in since 2.80. It broke 5.00 yesterday. Very consistent 8-10 % per day. Will It dump hard??
Thanks I am new and need help
 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
RDY up to 30.25 far out. Now I need to find some that will move like that that I can afford lmao
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
STTC huge buys going thru..
It's going to run..Up 24.14% now
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
got soem wlv yesterday.. its rocking today!!!!!
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
STTC Up 37.93% now

.04
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
STTC up 48.28%

.043
 
Posted by dyloli on :
 
Explain This!!!!!!
FHAL....


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By PR Newswire
Last Update: 7/26/2006 2:03:54 PM Data provided by

KENNESAW, Ga., July 26, 2006 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Conversion Solutions, Inc. (OTC: CVSU), (FHAL), a Delaware Corporation, releases this warning to the registered owners of www.our-street.com and www.**********.com.

We hereby issue this public order for you to cease and desist and retract the false and misleading information that you have posted about Conversion Solutions, Inc. and The Fronthaul Group or legal action is forthcoming.

We feel that you have violated the telecommunications statute which prohibits anyone from using a telephone or a telecommunications device (includes any device or software that can be used to originate telecommunications or other types of communications that are transmitted, in whole or in part, by the Internet (as such term is defined in section 1104 of the Internet Tax Freedom Act (47 U.S.C. 151 note)) "without disclosing of his identity and with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass any person."

If anyone feels that they have been persuaded by the influence of www.our- street.com or www.**********.com not to invest into our company or to sell and would like to join a legal suit to recoup their losses, please send an email with your complete contact information to stopthefraud*cvsu.us .

"It is time to stop the fraudulent, false and misleading statements posted on public websites about public officials, companies and their officers. These people need to be hit where it hurts, in the pocket," stated CEO, Rufus Paul Harris.

About Conversion Solutions, Inc.

CVSU is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CVSU's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CVSU is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at www.cvsu.us.

SOURCE Conversion Solutions, Inc.
 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
i think it will be like cutting your own throat to put that out JMO. Daum!
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
If you have been around for awhile, a offensive is generaly the norm from companies...

Problem? very few ever get any where..
GTE, QBID, CMKX are just examples, there are many more...

Motly fool called it right on GTE..The company threatin'ed to sue, but how can they now?

These suits can backfire on the company.

Check out what the CEO of Nasdaq stock CAFE did, what a nitemare that turned out to be..
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
That's the bad thing about paper trading, BooDog!
Watching imaginary profits.

Jo
 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
I taint gots no problemos havins imaginery peper profitos, cods be imgeneri lossetos at zee zame zime

In real life....FHAL got me profits from 1.14 to 1.24 Zats da facts stayin da puck out of it now GL 2 U
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Here is one for the Whale...
IAIC
 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
IAIC guess I'm not allowed to talk about it since they are affiliated with where I work.
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
STTC hit a 62% gain today.
Close .04 holding a 37.93% gain..

Hope some of you got a piece of the run..
The stock can trade sidewise for a period of time, however the managment team is working hard to bring this company around..
Watch for company PR'S on this one.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
nice call on sttc dusty.. but i am glad i didnt get in when you called.. it dropped all the way down.. and the EOD was nothiung great.. am not even sure if it will gap up.. and if it doesnt, its gonna slowly but surely retract all the way down IMO.. for the only reason that tomorrow being a friday!!!
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ruskin_muskin:
nice call on sttc dusty.. but i am glad i didnt get in when you called.. it dropped all the way down.. and the EOD was nothiung great.. am not even sure if it will gap up.. and if it doesnt, its gonna slowly but surely retract all the way down IMO.. for the only reason that tomorrow being a friday!!!

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When I called? you had better explain that remark...

If you are saying when I called it at .031 at 10;30 am it went to .047..I took profits at .045

I never said marry the damn stock..

If you are saying I called you? You are nothing but a GD liar.

Do not come on like you are a friend..You are sadly mistaken if you think that..Ka---Pish?

I am pleased you missed the 62% profit..

Actually a strong hint was given by me yesterday..

Funny how you always tell us your on the runners before hand, but I can't ever remember you posting a runner ahead of time..You are always clinging to people, creepy stuff.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dustoff 1:

When I called? you had better explain that remark...

If you are saying when I called it at .031 at 10;30 am it went to .047..I took profits at .045

I never said marry the damn stock..

If you are saying I called you? You are nothing but a GD liar.

Do not come on like you are a friend..You are sadly mistaken if you think that..Ka---Pish?

ok.. i am not sure why you are soar on me? i didnt know what price you had called.. but when i saw the pick, it was trading around 0.045.. thats what i meant.. and i dont have any personal enimity with you and if you want it that way.. so be it!!!!
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
dustoff.. i reread your post and i feel you have some issues with me.. i am not sure why though?? anyway thats for you to resolve.. i personally dont have any issues with you.. i say it the way i see it.. and if that makes me a "GD liar" so be it!!!!!
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Ruskin,,,,,Retract your statement I called you and i mean right now! Ka---Pish!
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
???????? you called me??? i was talking about when you called on the stock!!!! and if you mean you asked me to buy the stock, then NO.. you never asked me to buy the stock!!! if that makes you feel any better!!
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Ruskin states: but i am glad i didnt get in when you called.

Ruskin learn to use your edit button! You have in the past and it saved your behind, and you know it. We have tangled so many times in the past, well, most others I would of figgered a typo..But you and I can get to Dancing sometimes, so I am always warry of you. Ya gotta remember, I got a bit of Irish in me. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Please don't fight in my thread [Frown]

I love you guys.

Jo
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Oh' Tah.....


Ah' phooey an Adult showed up... [Eek!]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Ha ha..you guys got in trouble!!! [Razz]
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
stoopid
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Now, just who are you calling stupid?

Wanna fight? [Mad]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Baby!

edit:
Tex states;

"no "one"

simply "everything"

make sense?"

and 10 says..agreed...done and out!

[ July 28, 2006, 00:13: Message edited by: 10of13 ]
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"Wanna fight?"

Ahem, never know who might step out of shadows
and accept that challenge.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Well Tex, who's stupid?
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dustoff 1:
Now, just who are you calling stupid?

Wanna fight? [Mad]

no "one"

simply "everything"

make sense?
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Nope, no cigar, everything can not be stupid..
Wrong answer....

Loging out..
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dustoff 1:
Nope, no cigar, everything can not be stupid..
Wrong answer....

Loging out..

disagree... stOOpidty reigns...

luv ya like a brother...but stoopid-did-ity is the characterizing hallmark
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by Dustoff 1:
Nope, no cigar, everything can not be stupid..
Wrong answer....

Loging out..

disagree... stOOpidty reigns...

luv ya like a brother...but stoopid-did-ity is the characterizing hallmark

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Im outa here, wasting to much time, this board is costing me way to much of my time and concentration..Which in turn cost this houshold money..I am way behind on my $80k target for the year..

The type of trading I am doing now is just to involved to be distracted by nonesense..Might lurk from time to time..Aloha.
 


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