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Originally posted by IWISHIHAD:
Lot's of things going on at Camp Pendleton.

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Originally posted by IWISHIHAD:
More than usual, i spend a lot of time in this area lately.

Rocking the area all weekend long, with whatever they fire in the hills off the coast.

Not sure what there firing, but they sure rock houses in the area, pretty much all day and into the night.

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interesting...
 

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Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
Hey ray guess what? Romney lost, and Romney isnt the one going solo into Syria. What a complete mess of an administration we have.
 

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Posted by raybond on :
 
I don't want to see us to go in. But if we do makes no difference if we are alone or not as far as engagement goes and that includes Russia also.

Of course that would mean your poster boy[aka Putin] would look like a moron. Maybe he should put a shirt on like any good horseman knows that is riding in the country. lol cash
 

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Posted by glassman on :
 
Obama? Bush? Cheney? Kerry? Biden?

they are the same... they just play musical chairs and whoever happens to be in charge gets the tail pinned on them

Bush pledges to spread democracy

Thursday, January 20, 2005 Posted: 3:23 PM EST (2023 GMT)

President Bush delivers inaugural address.

President Bush is sworn in by Chief Justice William Rehnquist.
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Vice President Dick Cheney takes the oath of office.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush opened his second term Thursday with a promise to the people of the United States and the world -- vowing to promote democracy both at home and abroad.

"It is the policy of the United States to seek and support the growth of democratic movements and institutions in every nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world," Bush said in his inaugural address after his swearing-in ceremony.

In a reference to the September 11, 2001, attacks, Bush told the crowd gathered on the steps of the Capitol that the United States learned on "a day of fire" that protecting the country's borders was no longer enough.

"We have seen our vulnerability, and we have seen its deepest source," he said. "For as long as whole regions of the world simmer in resentment and tyranny -- prone to ideologies that feed hatred and excuse murder -- violence will gather, and multiply in destructive power, and cross the most defended borders, and raise a mortal threat."

Bush said that his primary responsibility was to protect the nation from attack and that "the force of human freedom" was the greatest weapon against tyranny and hatred.
President Bush said the United States wouldn't impose its form of government on other countries.


i love how GOP's are begging off becuase it costs too much....
they couldn't spend the money fast enough 10 years ago....
are we going to switch from 'freedom fries' to "freedom muffins"
 

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Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 

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Originally posted by raybond:
I don't want to see us to go in. But if we do makes no difference if we are alone or not as far as engagement goes and that includes Russia also.

Of course that would mean your poster boy[aka Putin] would look like a moron. Maybe he should put a shirt on like any good horseman knows that is riding in the country. lol cash

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My poster boy putin? You mean...Mr. Dreamy? What kind of President do we have when Putin makes more sense than Obama does? I would rather get the majority of my news from Pravda than NBC.

That is how backwards this country has become.
 

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Posted by raybond on :
 
You have posted it twice and with kind loving words for mr putin cash admit it your in love
 

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Posted by glassman on :
 
If Assad turns over his chemical weapons and somehow stops all this bloodshed in his country with Putins help???
Obama comes out of this looking alot like a genius Statesman to me.
 

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Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
A genius statesman? Please, elaborate on that.
 

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Posted by glassman on :
 
UH simple, because assad dumps his chem weps, signs onto the Chem weps treaty ban with the rest of the world and Obama did not have to fire a single round, not even a .22 LOL that is simplistic genius of statecraft.


“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
 

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Posted by glassman on :
 
you should be failry happy with politics right now cashcow. Obama is the president and you do not agree with everything he does, neithr do i. BUT! his gun control stance is being defeated in actaul elections in Colorado.
the 2014 electoins will be interesting
 

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Posted by glassman on :
 
one other thing abut this Syrai crapola? i have no will to defend any of the Syrian rebels and have never been given any reason to do so. as far as i am concnred they are the same people that spawned bin laden.
 

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Posted by rounder1 on :
 
Typing from a phone so please bare with me.....


Am I the only person that thinks we may be the victims of a "rope-a-dope".... All of these middle eastern countries are not dumb. They know they cant match our might or power.... But they also know they can feign vulnerability.... They can wear down public willingness to engage. Spread us thin...erode our morale.... Wear us down... These are tactics that weare not immune to... In fact they are precisely our greatest vulnerability.

Am I alone in thinking that this could be very cooridinated?
 

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Posted by rounder1 on :
 
Typing from a phone so please bare with me.....


Am I the only person that thinks we may be the victims of a "rope-a-dope".... All of these middle eastern countries are not dumb. They know they cant match our might or power.... But they also know they can feign vulnerability.... They can wear down public willingness to engage. Spread us thin...erode our morale.... Wear us down... These are tactics that weare not immune to... In fact they are precisely our greatest vulnerability.

Am I alone in thinking that this could be very cooridinated?
 

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Posted by raybond on :
 
CREDIT: AFP/Getty

Two new polls out this week shows strong support among Americans for the U.S. to pursue a diplomatic track in dealing with Syria’s chemical weapons.

A Washington Post/ABC News poll released on Tuesday found that 79 percent of respondents support the recent U.S-Russian deal to place the Syrian government’s chemical weapons stockpiles under international control.

The poll was about spit over whether Congress should authorize military force against Syria should President Bashar al-Assad fail to comply with the agreement. Forty-four percent said Congress should authorize force if diplomacy fails, while 48 percent said it should not.

Another poll released this week by Pew Research, but conducted before the U.S.-Russian deal, found that 67 percent supported Obama’s decision last week to delay votes in Congress to authorize force to allow the U.S. and its international partners to explore new diplomatic opportunities to rein in Assad’s chemical weapons.

At that time, Obama was pushing Congress to authorize a limited military attack on Syria in response to Assad’s use of chemical weapons, but sudden Russian cooperation, which many argue was forced by Obama’s threat to use force in Syria, led the United States to delay military action to let the diplomatic overture play out.

While both polls found that a minority of Americans support a military attack on Syria, the Washington Post’s Greg Sargent notes that despite the elite media narrative that Obama has been weak and indecisive on Syria in recent weeks, the poll’s results actually show that most Americans support his maneuvering:


At the same time, the [Post/ABC] poll finds a leading elite criticism of Obama’s handling of the crisis — that his changing of mind along with shifting circumstances showed a vacillation that risks projecting wavering intent — isn’t shared by the public. Sixty percent say he “sticks with his principles,” roughly unchanged since January 2012. A plurality thinks the initial threat of missile strikes helped the situation by pressuring Syria to give up its chemical weapons — meaning Americans accept Obama’s argument about the impact of the threat (even if they oppose action) and don’t see his change of course as somehow diminishing it. A plurality also says Obama made a good case in his speech the other night — despite widespread pundit derision. [...]

Indeed, yesterday’s Pew poll finds overwhelming support for the diplomatic deal, and also finds a plurality sees Obama’s change of course as “leadership and a willingness to adapt to changing circumstances,” rather than “weakness.”

“There’s lots to criticize Obama for on Syria,” Sargent says on Twitter, “But new WaPo poll shows pundits badly blowing this story.”
 

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