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The Latest GOP Assaults on Women

By ThinkProgress War Room on Apr 27, 2012 at 5:05 pm


The Republican War on Women Is Only Getting Bigger

While continuing to deny there is any such thing, the Republicans continue their all-out war on women, their health care, and their families.

Here’s the latest.

All of the Senators Voting Against the Violence Against Women Act Were Republican Men

Yesterday, the Senate passed the Violence Against Women Act by an overwhelming 68-31 margin. While every Democrat and all five female Republican senators voted to reauthorize and expand the landmark law, a whopping 31 of their male colleagues voted no.

Meanwhile, House Republicans are going to be crafting a watered down version that leaves out important protections for LGBT people, immigrants, Native Americans, and others.

It’s shameful that some Republicans apparently believe that all women are not entitled to protection from abuse. House Republicans even called the idea that all women deserve protection “controversial.”

House Republicans Rob Health Fund for Women, Children to Pay For Student Loans

Instead of asking Big Oil or millionaires and billionaires to pay their fair share so student loan interest rates don’t double, House Republicans instead passed a bill today that paid for extending the current rates by outright repealing a preventive health fund that disproportionately benefits women and children. From the White House’s veto threat:


Women, in particular, will benefit from this Prevention Fund, which would provide for hundreds of thousands of screenings for breast and cervical cancer. This is a politically-motivated proposal and not the serious response that the problem facing America’s college students deserves.

This new attack was denounced just before today’s vote by Democratic women, including Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi (CA).
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
ray, even the ACLU pointed out some of the flaws to this bill when it was first passed under clinton...

there's no doubt that women need protection, but theee's even some reasonable debate as to whther the Constitution allows for mandatory sentencing in any case...

Courts have generally upheld the constitutionality of sentencing guidelines; however the guidelines have recently been under strict scrutiny (Lee, 1995). In general, a defendant has a Sixth Amendment right to a trial by jury. The right has been extended for the jury to decide on the facts material to the crime charged. An issue appears when judges decide on facts other than prior convictions for administering punishment. When the judge uses presumptive sentencing guidelines they are removing the right of a trial by jury.

the landmark case of Booker v. Washington (2005) reversed these mandatory guidelines and ruled sentencing guidelines are advisory.


in other words? a Jury is supposed to be decifding what the punishment is, not the Congress/govenernment. The governemtn has been slowly but surely eroding this notion from the day they ratified the Constitution...It's the same in tort reform, tort reform erodes the Juries ability to determine damages too..

why was this bill designed to expire? why do we have some bills that are poltical hotbuttons set to expire every four years? we all know the answer to that

so people can argue about them over and over again?
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
Top Republican Strategist Denies Women Are Paid Less Than Men

By Igor Volsky on Apr 29, 2012 at 11:54 am


This morning, during a heated discussion with Rachel Maddow on Meet The Press, GOP consultant Alex Castellanos denied that women make 77 cents for a man’s dollar in the workplace and noted, “there are lots of reasons for that.” Maddow expressed shock at the assertion, but concluded that it explained why Republicans and Mitt Romney are so hesitant to embrace the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009, a law that helps women hold accountable employers who discriminate in the pay practices based on gender.

“Now we know, at least from both of your perspectives,” Maddow said, pointing to Castellanos and Romney surrogate Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-WA), “women are not fairing worse than men in the economy that women aren’t getting paid less for equal work.” “It’s about policy and whether or not you want to fix some of the structural discrimination that women really do face that Republicans don’t believe is happening,” she added. Castellanos responded to Maddow’s policy argument by remarking on her passion, to which the MSNBC host took offense:


CASTELLANOS: It is about policy and I love how passionate you are. I wish you were as right about what you’re saying as you are passionate about it. I really do.

MADDOW: That’s really condescending. This is a stylistic issue. My passion on this issue is actually me making a factual argument on it.

In an interview with ABC News’ Diane Sawyer earlier this month, Romney refused to say whether he would sign the Lilly Ledbetter Act, but claimed that he would not change it. Romney’s women surrogates — including McMorris Rodgers — all voted against the legislation. Castellanos himself consulted Romney during the 2008 presidential election.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
There is no Republican war on women, this is a sick side show. Really? A war on women? Good grief.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
There is no Republican war on women, this is a sick side show. Really? A war on women? Good grief.

if you actually knew any? you wouldn't say that.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
There is no Republican war on women, this is a sick side show. Really? A war on women? Good grief.

if you actually knew any? you wouldn't say that.
If I actually knew any? Any what, women? Im looking for concrete facts here people, not slogans, what ifs, or radical ideology.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
LOL... concrete fact? women do get paid 77% o waht men do in the same jobs.
wake up cash, live in the real world not some cult dream created by the party of your choice.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
not slogans, what ifs, or radical ideology.

you mean like drill baby drill?

sheeeessh... what a bunch of losers man
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
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Top 10 Shocking Attacks from the GOP's War on Women

1) Republicans not only want to reduce women's access to abortion care, they're actually trying to redefine rape. After a major backlash, they promised to stop. But they haven't yet. Shocker.

2) A state legislator in Georgia wants to change the legal term for victims of rape, stalking, and domestic violence to "accuser." But victims of other less gendered crimes, like burglary, would remain "victims."

3) In South Dakota, Republicans proposed a bill that could make it legal to murder a doctor who provides abortion care. (Yep, for real.)

4) Republicans want to cut nearly a billion dollars of food and other aid to low-income pregnant women, mothers, babies, and kids.

5) In Congress, Republicans have a bill that would let hospitals allow a woman to die rather than perform an abortion necessary to save her life.


6) Maryland Republicans ended all county money for a low-income kids' preschool program. Why? No need, they said. Women should really be home with the kids, not out working.


7) And at the federal level, Republicans want to cut that same program, Head Start, by $1 billion. That means over 200,000 kids could lose their spots in preschool.

8) Two-thirds of the elderly poor are women, and Republicans are taking aim at them too. A spending bill would cut funding for employment services, meals, and housing for senior citizens.

9) Congress just voted for a Republican amendment to cut all federal funding from Planned Parenthood health centers, one of the most trusted providers of basic health care and family planning in our country.

10) And if that wasn't enough, Republicans are pushing to eliminate all funds for the only federal family planning program. (For humans. But Republican Dan Burton has a bill to provide contraception for wild horses. You can't make this stuff up).
Sources:

1. "'Forcible Rape' Language Remains In Bill To Restrict Abortion Funding," The Huffington Post, February 9, 2011
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=206084

"Extreme Abortion Coverage Ban Introduced," Center for American Progress, January 20, 2011
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=205961

2. "Georgia State Lawmaker Seeks To Redefine Rape Victims As 'Accusers,'" The Huffington Post, February 4, 2011
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=206007

3. "South Dakota bill would legalize killing abortion doctors," Salon, February 15, 2011
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2011/02/15/south_dakota_abortion_killing_bill

4. "House GOP Proposes Cuts to Scores of Sacred Cows," National Journal, February 9, 2011
http://nationaljournal.com/house-gop-proposes-cuts-to-scores-of-sacred-cows-2011 0209

5. "New GOP Bill Would Allow Hospitals To Let Women Die Instead Of Having An Abortion," Talking Points Memo, February 4, 2011
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=205974

6. "Republican Officials Cut Head Start Funding, Saying Women Should be Married and Home with Kids," Think Progress, February 16, 2011
http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/16/gop-women-kids/

7. "Bye Bye, Big Bird. Hello, E. Coli," The New Republic, Feburary 12, 2011
http://www.tnr.com/blog/83387/house-republican-spending-cuts-pell-education-usda -pbs

8. "House GOP spending cuts will devastate women, families and economy," The Hill, February 16, 2011
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/economy-a-budget/144585-house-gop-spendin g-cuts-will-devastate-women-families-and-economy-

9. "House passes measure stripping Planned Parenthood funding," MSNBC, February 18,2011
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/02/18/6080756-house-passes-measure-str ipping-planned-parenthood-funding

"GOP Spending Plan: X-ing Out Title X Family Planning Funds," Wall Street Journal, February 9, 2011
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/02/09/gop-spending-plan-x-ing-out-title-x-fam ily-planning-funds/

10. Ibid.

"Birth Control for Horses, Not for Women," Blog for Choice, February 17, 2011
http://www.blogforchoice.com/archives/2011/02/birth-control-f.html


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Thousands Rally At ‘We Are Women’ Protests Across The Country: ‘Enough Of The War On Women’

By Igor Volsky on Apr 30, 2012 at 9:53 am


Women across the country participated in “We Are Women” rallies on Saturday to protest state legislation limiting access to contraception and abortion. Hundreds of advocates gathered in Kansas, Colorado, Virginia, Florida, Arkansas, Idaho, and Oklahoma to demand that lawmakers abandon efforts to undermine women’s health.

“Today’s rally was part of a national movement that has had enough of the war on women,” Kansas rally organizer Kari Ann Rinker said. “Not only do we have a governor who sees fit to sign every piece of anti-choice legislation that crosses his desk, the atrocity is the failure to care for the living, breathing children and families that reside here in Kansas.” Protesters in Virginia carried signs that read “Stop the War on Virginia Women,” “Women’s Rights are Human Rights” and “Va. Gov. McDonnell. The Vaginal Probe Guy.” And demonstrators in Oklahoma — where lawmakers have approved more than 30 anti-abortion measures since the GOP gained control of the House after 2004 — rallied against the state’s personhood measure, noting, “That’s not progress. That’s not even status quo backward.”

The Guttmacher Institute estimates that so far this year, at least 45 state legislatures have introduced 944 measures related to reproductive health. At least 75 abortion restrictions passed at least one legislative chamber, and nine have been enacted into law.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
not slogans, what ifs, or radical ideology.

you mean like drill baby drill?

sheeeessh... what a bunch of losers man

Drill baby drill is radical because.....
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
LOL.. can't you even tell tell the differnce between a slogan and an ideology?
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
i guess Palin can't either:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iolgiIvfV-0


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a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
2.
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Posted by glassman on :
 
cults typically cultivate paranoia in their followers...

the paranoia here is that the largest portion of America (ultra-lefties and ultra-rigth-wingers excluded) is not against mining and drilling. they are NOT! they are against wastefulness and irresponsible behaviour. fact is? the mining and the oil industries have allowed too many of their own participants to be totally irrepnsible.

the free market only works as idealistic notion just like communism only works as an idealistic notion.
in true free markets you MUST allow failure to be experienced by the participants in order to discover everything. from price discovery to over or undersupply to inefficiency? you must ALLOW it ALL to happen...

all this new cult does is try to blame the govt for those failure discoveries. in reality? the Govt is there for a signficant purpose. it is there to generally protect the average person from the worst parts of the discovery of the failures that are an absolute requirement in a Free market. The ultra-right has no problem in forcing people not to discover the failures they belive are sins, or failures like smoking a joint but everything else is fair game? LOL...

simply put? if a toothpaste company is using lead to whiten the teeth of their customers? they will be very successful for years until the customers begin to puzzle out that the lead is making their kids smile bright and their brains dim. discovery usually takes years and costs much more than "just" $$$$$
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
Health

Planned Parenthood Claims Victory After Helping To Oust NC Legislator Who Voted For Anti-Abortion Bill

By Amanda Peterson Beadle posted from ThinkProgress Health on May 10, 2012 at 1:50 pm


Planned Parenthood helped knock a 28-year incumbent out of the North Carolina General Assembly after the conservative Democrat sided with Republicans to vote in favor of a controversial anti-abortion bill last year. State Rep. Jim Crawford (D) joined four other Democrats who helped Republicans override Gov. Bev Perdue’s (D) veto to pass legislation that requires women get ultrasound exams, receive counseling, and wait 24 hours before having an abortion.

Planned Parenthood responded by supporting Rep. W.A. “Winkie” Wilkins’ (D) campaign against Crawford in a redrawn district that favored Wilkins. The women’s health organization claimed victory in statements released after Tuesday’s election:


“There is no question,” says Melissa Reed, vice president of public policy for Planned Parenthood Health Systems Action Fund. “Women were watching as Jim Crawford cast the deciding vote in support of legislation to undermine a woman’s right to make personal health decisions without government intrusion.” [...]

“Nowhere has the attack on women’s health been waged more viciously than in North Carolina” added Paige Johnson, vice president of public affairs for Planned Parenthood Action Fund of Central North Carolina. “Yesterday’s defeat of Jim Crawford by Winkie Wilkins shows clearly that women have had enough. We are mobilizing to help elect candidates like Winkie Wilkins, who will stand strong for women’s health in 2012 and beyond.”

Planned Parenthood also got involved in a Pennsylvania election, spending $100,000 on an ad attacking Republican Ryan Mackenzie for his support of an invasive ultrasound bill. And as state legislatures have approved another round of restrictive abortion regulations so far this year, it’s likely that women will continue to target Republicans who voted to limit their health care options.


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Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
If Republican actions are a war on women, then abortion is a war on unborn children.
 
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
 
How about this war.

http://lightbox.time.com/2012/05/10/parenting/#1


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Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by IWISHIHAD:
How about this war.

http://lightbox.time.com/2012/05/10/parenting/#1


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it's not fair to the kids.... they should not be depndant that long. 18 months is plenty sheesh...
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
If Republican actions are a war on women, then abortion is a war on unborn children.

uborn is the operative there, and this could be settled equitably and qucikly too, if it weren't a fundraiser...

normal human gestation is 280 days/40 Weeks- cut it in half and ban it in the second half unless the mother is going to DIE, and move on to more important issues. 20 weeks is a long time.
 
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
 
Originally Posted By Glassman:

"it's not fair to the kids.... they should not be depndant that long. 18 months is plenty sheesh"

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It appears to be a point a parent takes without regard to what other kids and people think, let alone their own kids and neighbors.

Thought about it for awhile to try and see their point, but since it appears not to be a person that can't afford food, i seem to only see one side and it isn't hers.


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Posted by glassman on :
 
it's hard enough to get them to 18 and be ready to light out on their own... that's waht society has set... i know that at 18 i was on my own and it weren't EZ.... i know people that never lit out on their own.... i'm even related to some [Big Grin] and some of the worst are loaded with money too [BadOne]
 
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
 
Originally Posted By Glassman:

"it's hard enough to get them to 18 and be ready to light out on their own... that's waht society has set... i know that at 18 i was on my own and it weren't EZ.... i know people that never lit out on their own.... i'm even related to some and some of the worst are loaded with money too"
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Sounds like we have a lot in common from the above statement... for our better or worst

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Posted by glassman on :
 
it's not that unusual of a story... i have friends with family mebers and even relaitves who lived with their folks into their 50's and buried thier parents..... i tend to aviod the company of people like that myself, but sometime you cannot avoid it...

my dad was the only one of seven kids that left thier hometown, he was the only one who didn't get a slice of the family biz.... no problem to me, they are my family, and i love them, but i don't have hardly anythign in common with 'em... it was a good biz, but the shares of it have eventually ended up in two hands out of the six... and theeconomic differnce twixt them today is hard to beleive...
 
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
 
Maybe even a lot more in common than i thought from the first statement.

What happened at estate time, if that has happened yet, that's usually when it gets more interesting especially when money is involved.

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Posted by glassman on :
 
well, the way i see it? it's up to whoever writes their will to decide if they want to have their kids go thru hell or no at estate time...

honestly? i knew i was "screwed" before i was 15.... [Big Grin] and i've been OK with that for over 30 yrs now....

i was a very naughty child [Razz]
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
i have to add that i consider myself lucky, i figgered out at about 12 that money (itself) was actually destroying people and relationships and while i like having it and i tend to save alot and spend very little frivolously, it's not the reason to live. That was from watching people who supposeldy loved one another use it to manipulate and treat each other like dirt.

one of the other long-tiome posters here has th right idea, he knows who he is if he's still reading and posting, buy silver and bury it in your yard, don't tell people like your kids, surprise 'em (they won't have to pay taxes on it either) [Smile]
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Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
 
I forgot to add at estate time, if there is any money left.

Being naughty isn't all that bad.

But my guess is from what you said in your two statements that naughty has nothing to do with it in the long run.

Probably naughty is used by those closest to the money to try and get more.

You either have to live your life or spend your life worrying about the money and who stays closest to the money,if people don't want to be fair and do the right thing.

Not sure it's worth it except you probably feel bad for your own family if they decide to be jerks.

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Posted by glassman on :
 
i've watched liftime savings be wiped clean by "grownup" children on two seperate occasions now, while the parents were still alive... the only way to accept it is to understand that the "kids" are in their fifties and are cluelss on how to live any better now than they did when they were still at home at 49-50... pitiful really.

the lesson i learned is to make sur emy own kids know how to light out on their own too... best way to live.

my naughtiness was not imagined, maybe not too unique either, i'm OK with it... bitterness is not conducive to productivity.

one of my own fualts may be that i am too easy to forgive, but forget? now that i have a hard time with, good or bad, memories don't evaporate for me like i soemtimes wish...
 
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
 
Naughtiness when people are younger should be just part of life, but i guess it should depend on extremes.

Some probably has to do with rebelling against what we see and hear growing up.

Lets face it, the service doesn't take just anybody. [Smile]


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Posted by glassman on :
 
LOL.. iwish, i served with guys that were given the choice of jail or signing up. some of my best buds were the ones i knew i could walk into a strange bar anywhere int he world and feel safe....

naughtiness is a realtive thing, i dated (at 16) a girl i was in lvoe with (as much as you can be at 16) whose daddy owned a caddy dealership. i was not anywhere close to her league of naughtiness (or cash flow) tho... one day she shows up with her own new caddy (as oppposed to the dealer demos she usually had) -a 500 cubic inch monster with cruise control (a big deal then)
after setting the cruise control at 110 on I270 in gaithersburg md for a about ten miles she proceeded to show me some off-roading on other people property....
she and me along with her did 100,000 grand in damage that night...
to her? it was how to get back at her dad for ignoring her and there was no penalty other than another new caddy...
to me, the excitemtn was to get away with all of it, which i did...

now that's not a good example of what i did when i was like 9- or ten...

i used to shoot (target tip, not braodheads) arrows straight up in th eair and make all the other kids run [Wink] i was in like a different time zone from the people around me... to me? a falling arrow is slow and can easily be ducked, but i just didn't realise just how scary that stuff is to other people... i made lots omatch bombs and even made a bunch with disaasembeld ammo by the time i was twelve, and nobody ever got hurt (well bad anyway [Wink] i was th kid that disassembled th eM80's (the real ones) and made made M1080's ... still got all my fingers and eyes, and so do the kids who watched... it was fun, but i was not the parents favorite for obvious reasons...

in Judo class, i was taught self Discipline, but it was an odd type of Martial Discipline, not "fit into society" discipline.......

i did some crazy chit...
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
M-80's another good story, i must have been about 11.

i had mabye 100 of them and they wer totally illegal in my state... this is Suburbia, now, not the country, and my dad was mayor.

we had some 4 inch grey plastic drain pipes in th eback yard, brand new, ten feet long.

i took two dog food cans poked a hole in the closed end of one with a 16 penny nail. put the M80 in with thefuse stuck thru the hole then put the other can open end to open end. stuck the whole thing into the pipe, put the pipe at abut 30 degrees in the air and lit the fuse... that dog food can broke the wooden fence...

the next shot we put three houses down... never got caught on that one either... prolly cuz we only had a few empty dog food cans, or i woulda done it til the cops showed up. [Were Up]

i was a natural for the navy EOD team but i got into brawl with a couple too many people one night had to have my right shoulder rebuilt...
 
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
 
Originally Posted By Glassman:

LOL.. iwish, i served with guys that were given the choice of jail or signing up. some of my best buds were the ones i knew i could walk into a strange bar anywhere int he world and feel safe
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I knew a few also but thought i would throw it in anyway.

One good buddy in the service had put a pool stick over a guy in a bar, jail or Vietnam for a second tour, he thought at times maybe he made the wrong choice.

Sounds like you had some exciting times, many have had a few, not necessarily to that extreme but probably lucky we were not in a lot more trouble.

I remember cherry bombs when we were younger but i don't remember seeing any m-80's until my kids were older in Wash, we could get them on the Indian reservation if wanted.

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Posted by glassman on :
 
M-80's in the late 60's early 70's were not th eM80 of today.

i have family on the NC SC border so my cousins (about 100) could drive 20 miles to SC and buy these firecrackers that were nothing like what we get today.

i took apart all of 'em that i got at one time or another. i started off pretty young too... like 9?

i was unrolling those Estes rocket engines even before that. They were most fun if you just glue a couple fins on them tho...

a regualr fircracker, black cat or lady finger is tightly wrppped paer rolled around some silvery gray black powder. The Estes rocket powder was pure black. Black powder isn't really an explosive, it just burns very fast. The wicks or fuses on lady fingers and balck cats are also "just" paper rolled around the same stuff... take apart ten black cats and make a little pile and you get alot of grey smoke and an orange flame. It is more or less the same thing our great-granpappy's and their dads used in their guns even when cartridges came out.

now, a real M80 or an ash-can - i dunno where the termash-can came from, prolly a brand name,they had cannon fuse (usually green an waxy looking) and the construction was a cardboard tube similar to a toilet paper roll, or paper towel roll only thicker. It would be waterproofed as is the cannon fuse. There's glue on either end and they were about an inch to an inchanadhalf long, and a half inch across.

I clearly remember the first time i disassembled one. The powder was not powder at all. I didn't know it at he time, but it was pure nitrocellulose. It looked like wood shavings instead of powder. I have seen what looks like cotton in some M-80's too that's also nitro cellulose, and they are not waterproofed so that you can blow the toilets off the wall at school, (nope i never did that) they are waterproof so the nitro don't leak out from waht htey call 'sweating', and the nitorcellulose won't acidify and break down.
I piled all of the contents of one M-80 on some paper and lit it and backed off expecting a really big flash... the damn thing exploded without being packed like black powder requires. That was the closest i ever came to getting hurt cuz i only got about 3 steps back and i was facing it... i do learn quick tho, and i realised that i had soemthing really unique, and better be craftier if ididn't want lose an eye [Wink] I was not even 11 yet. There is big friggin differnce between guncotton (nitrocellulose) and black powder.

took aprt quite a few road flares over the years too... road falres are very similar to thermite [Wink]

when i lived in the Tidewaterarea? I did alot of boating, boat repairs (cars too) and i spent alot of time poking around in boat junkyards... I picked up every out of date signal rocket i could ever find. The good ones cost at least 40$ NEW and they are sealed to last about ten years... But every one i ever found still worked and some of them were 25 years old. coast guard will tell you to rpeplace them when they go out of date, and so will i, cuz whne you really need one? it better friggin work-- they are pretty cool 1000 feet in the air is impressive..

just don't shoot them off on a day when somebody might think you are really in distress, cuz they bring the Cavalry... I shot my last one off two years ago on new years eve here in the middle of farm country.... people were telling me about seeing it two weks later - i just grinned and nodded, yep i saw it too...
they are even better than the mortars i can legally buy here every New Years and July 4th..

i don't expect to die young
 
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
 
Thinking back now we use to be able to buy slow burning fuses at the local sporting goods when i was a kid.

You could be setting in your house when fire crackers and cherry bombs went off up the street.

I never thought about it till now, why did the sporting goods stores have those fuses?

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Posted by glassman on :
 
i got 'em with the rocketeering stuff...

it's funny, my folks got me a rocket kit (estes) when i was in 3rd grade fro christmas, i built it right away but i had to wait months to launch it... i got the same kind of stuff for junior and he and th e other kids today would rather do online comabt games... i was not very well uspervised, but i made sure that i wouldn't be as much as possible. I have made sure to be on site as much as possible, but it seems unnecessary.. maybe mine are even better at being sneaky than i was?

my first kit had elctrical igniters... which if you think about it for minute/ work jsut as well on IED as they do on toy rocket...

then i found that cannon fuse (the hobby shop loved me, i had a big papaer route) and it worked on estes rockets too.. th epacks i got were made up by somebody local i'm pretty sure, cuz the plastic bag had just a mimeogrraphed picture of cannon on it and the name cannon fuse... nothing else..i think three feet were 50 cents?

we also used to do some neat stuff with steel wool... that burns with just a transistor radio battery [Wink]

sheesh, i don't want to give awya too many tricks to eh "bad guys"...

we weren't pyromaniacs per se, just maniacs i guess [Big Grin]
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
Ok another example of just being a real brat...

this is second third grade now- the neighbor had beagle and nicely fenced yard...

i had a third floor (big old attic) room... i could sit in my wndow witht helights off,and shoot with big 7-11 peashooter, the neighbors shed and the dog would bark and then eventually howl after about ten shots, at the shed as only beagles can howl...

old man Grey, the neighbor though his dog was going insane...

i would also ping one off the other neighbors (who spent alotof time in his back yard popping schlitzes and looking busy but not really busy) shed when i thought he wasn't looking so he was thinking it was squirrels dropping nuts (at least fifteen feet from the tree) for a long time...

that went on for like two years until the schllitz drinking neighbor saw me shooting at the beagles shed,
so picture my poor Dad with a half-3/4 drunk neightbor who also has kids older than me, swearing that i was shooting a BBgun (which i was not allowed to have, i dunno why [Big Grin] ) at him...

i swear to god, i was not shoooting at the dog or the people i was just shooting the sheds with peas to make the "special" pinging noise that had them all going a little nutty.. they did figger out i was telling the truth when they went and found hundreds of the peas all over the roofs of both sheds [Wink]

brat? hellyeah i was.. face it tho, 7-11 sold a peashooter and a bag of peas tfro what a quarter? and there were alot of those dried peas in that bag...
 
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4th grade? my standout prank that year involved earthworms (fishbait right?) and girls and lunchboxes.. it went off way better than i could ever have expected... i only sortof got away witht hat one cuz i was laughing too much...

that one is kind of embarassing to me to this day, but in 4th grade? i thought i was the absolute King of Comedy that day...

the worms were NOT supposed to actually crawl INTO the baloney sammich... just stick tot eh lid of th ebox or soemthing... live animals? hard to work with sometimes [Were Up]
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
i think this was my role model:

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Posted by glassman on :
 
1st grade.... hmmm.. how to splain this.....

i had a teacher that i suppose mustaben a real hottie...

this was '65-66 now, i wasn't into girls yet for crying out loud, i was 6... but i was pretty curious, you know, about all the hardawre i could plainly see holdin up her stockings.....
nah...
i gotta think somemore about how to 'splain this....
 
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what the heck, a fisrt grade teacher has no dang business wearing all that hardware in school

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4GZFbCqx18
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
nah, definiteley not my fault i wasn't even 7 yet, for crying out loud,
and the good news was that i really liked my NEW school for 2nd grade [Big Grin]
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
kindergarten? i didn't mean to put the clothespin on the cats tail - it just happened, and i couldn't get it off before he got away... you ever try to catch a cat running from his own tail? not easy...
 
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You Won’t Believe The GOP’s Latest Assault on Women
By ThinkProgress War Room on May 16, 2012 at 5:37 pm

House GOP Passes Rollback of the Violence Against Women Act
In a show of bipartisanship that is basically unprecedented these days in the dysfunctional U.S. Senate, the Senate recently reauthorized and expanded the Violence Against Women Act on an overwhelming 68-31 vote. (Unfortunately, 31 male Republican Senators still voted no.)

Today, instead of passing this overwhelmingly bipartisan bill, House Republicans passed a watered-down version that actually rolls back existing protections for women.

Here’s the rundown on the latest assault in the GOP’s war on women.

What’s not in the House GOP’s bill?

Important expanded protections for LGBT people, immigrants, and Native Americans.
Some existing protections for victims of domestic abuse.
Click HERE for a complete, detailed rundown of all the problems with this partisan bill.

Who supports the House GOP’s attempts to weaken the law?

A misogynistic “men’s rights” organization that told Rihanna to “woman up” after she was abused by Chris Brown.
Lobbyists for the mail order bride industry.
It’s also worth noting that the coalition of fringe social conservative organizations who opposed the bipartisan Senate included a convicted domestic abuser.

Who opposes the House GOP’s efforts to weaken the bill?

The White House, which has threatened to veto the bill.
Hundreds of groups, including the U.S. Conference of Mayors, National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, National Network to End Domestic Violence, National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs, Break the Cycle, Legal Momentum, Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, National Organization for Women, Feminist Majority, YWCA USA, AAUW, Business and Professional Women’s Foundation, National Women’s Law Center, Planned Parenthood Federation of America, American Bar Association, NAACP, National Council of La Raza, Human Rights Campaign, United Church of Christ, United Methodist Church, Jewish Council for Public Affairs, and National Congress of American Indians.
IN ONE SENTENCE: Instead of passing a deeply flawed, partisan bill that actually leaves women more vulnerable to abuse, it’s time for House Republicans to stop their war on women and pass the bipartisan Senate Violence Against Women Act.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
Oh brother, more propaganda from Think Progress.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
yep you have that right no run to rush and have him tell you what to do.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
Cash you say you are a businessman . With a short term memmory like you have that is terrible I can't believe you are. I mean you could not manage gas after a bean dinner.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
Ray, this whole "war on women" is blown out of proportion. Think Progress and Media Matters are drunk on their own kool aid in a war with the far right bloggers.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
you are wrong
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
Ray, this whole "war on women" is blown out of proportion. Think Progress and Media Matters are drunk on their own kool aid in a war with the far right bloggers.

not just a little wrong either. way wrong.
 
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Steve King Again Attempts To Limit Women’s Access To Abortion Services
By Amanda Peterson Beadle on May 16, 2012 at 8:30 am

Rep. Steve King (R-IA), the same congressman who thinks states have a right to ban contraception, has revived an anti-abortion bill that is destined to die in the Senate. King has reintroduced his bill to “prohibit federal tele-health grants from going to clinics and doctors who use video-conferencing technology to prescribe the abortion medication mifepristone, also known as RU-486.” So far, the bill has 47 co-sponsors.

The Senate killed the same proposal in October after the House passed it as part of an agriculture bill, so it is likely the same thing will happen again.

When he introduced the measure on Thursday, King said his proposal was about stopping Planned Parenthood from providing what he has called “robo-Skype abortions“:

King said these “telemedicine abortions” help Planned Parenthood save costs by getting the same result as a surgical abortion, but “without the overhead costs.” But King said evidence is mounting that the morning-after pill, RU-486, is dangerous to women.

“Eight percent of women who take the abortion drug known as RU-486 require surgical intervention to complete their abortion,” he said. “This new practice leaves those women at grave risk and should never be supported with taxpayer dollars.”

The problem is that King’s view of telemedicine abortion services as a way to lower overhead costs is completely inaccurate. For one, Planned Parenthood officials have confirmed that abortion medication is a very small part of the telemedicine services the organization offers.

And studies have shown that medication abortions with a doctor connected by teleconference is safe, and it expands health care options for rural women who otherwise would find it difficult to terminate their pregnancies. And as states like Wisconsin block these procedures, researchers have found that there is no reason to restrict medication abortion services via telemedicine. Once again, King is using scare tactics to push for unnecessary policies that would hurt women’s access to health care.
 
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Missouri Legislature Approves Bill Allowing Employers To Deny Access To Birth Control
By Amanda Peterson Beadle on May 21, 2012 at 9:15 am

Missouri legislators passed a bill Friday that allows employers or health insurance providers to stop offering coverage for contraception, abortion, or sterilization if doing so violates their religious or moral convictions. The bill now goes to Gov. Jay Nixon (D), who has not said whether he supports the legislation.

The measure mirrors a federal restriction proposed by Sen. Roy Blunt (R-MO) that has not progressed in Congress and is designed to push back against the Obama administration’s rule requiring contraception coverage to be included in insurance plans at no additional cost.

While some Democrats opposed the anti-contraception bill, it passed the Senate 28-6 and the House 105-33:

The bill states that no employer or health plan provider can be compelled to provide coverage _ or be penalized for refusing to cover _ abortion, contraception or sterilization if those items run contrary to their religious or moral convictions. The bill also gives the state attorney general grounds to sue other governmental officials or entities that infringe on the rights granted in the legislation.

“This bill is about religious freedom and moral convictions,” said Rep. Sandy Crawford, R-Buffalo. “This is about sending a message to the federal government that we don’t like things rammed down our throat.”

But state Rep. Stacey Newman (D) said the bill endangering women’s access to health care was more of an attack on “women’s reproductive choices” than a message to the federal government. “This is wrong and I dare you to go home and talk to your daughters … and say, ‘Look, what we’re going to say is that your employers’ religious beliefs matter more than your own,’” Newman told colleagues.

In 2006, 53 percent of pregnancies in Missouri were unintended, 61 percent of which resulted in live births and 25 percent resulted in induced abortions. According to the Guttmacher Institute, 65 percent of births that were unintended were publicly funded, compared to 50 percent of all births and 37 percent of intended pregnancies.
 
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50% of all Missourri births wer publicly funded?

does that mean not covered by insurance? holy crap we are in big trouble
 
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Members Of New GOP Women’s Caucus Voted Against Equality For Women
By Josh Israel on May 22, 2012 at 1:58 pm


YouTube video introducing the Women's Policy Committee
The 24 Republican Congresswomen in the U.S. House announced yesterday that they have joined to form the Women’s Policy Committee, a caucus aimed at “raising the profile of GOP women in their roles as lawmakers, highlighting their diverse achievements and providing a unique, unified voice on a wide range of critically important issues.”

But a ThinkProgress review of their voting records shows that the two dozen women have been fairly consistent in their legislative opposition to women’s rights:

Violence Against Women: Of the 24 women, 22 voted to rollback the Violence Against Women Act, backing a version of the bill that could violate the confidentiality of victims and that excluded protections for immigrants, LGBT people, and Native Americans.
Access to contraception: 21 of the 24 co-sponsored the “Respect for Rights of Conscience Act” to take away regulations enacted under Obamacare requiring most employers to cover birth control in their health insurance plans, without additional cost-sharing.
Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act: Of the 15 Republican Congresswomen who were in the House at the time, all 15 voted against the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009, a law that helps women hold accountable employers who discriminate in the pay practices based on gender.
Paycheck Fairness Act Act: 13 of those 15 also voted against the Paycheck Fairness Act, which would update the 1963 Equal Pay Act by closing many of its loopholes and strengthening incentives to prevent pay discrimination.
Reproductive health: According to Planned Parenthood, 20 of the 24 GOP women earned a zero score, voting against reproductive health at every opportunity. The average score for the women was under 6 percent.


In lauding the group’s formation, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) said “Make no mistake, these aren’t just leaders on so-called ‘women’s issues,’ these are women leaders on all issues.”

But their leadership on women’s issues has been decidedly absent. In fact, even in their two-minutes-and-fifteen-seconds introductory video “Working For You,” they note they are “working together to create jobs, reduce spending, health small businesses, and put back into your hands.” But they do not name a single accomplishment or goal relating to equal protection for women.




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5 Things You Should Know About The Paycheck Fairness Act
By Annie-Rose Strasser on May 24, 2012 at 11:40 am

Senate Democrats, led by five female Senators, began a renewed push this week to pass the Paycheck Fairness Act, a bill that protects women who sue over being paid less than their male counterparts.

But, as with much of the recent pro-woman legislation, the measure will spark a partisan fight. On Thursday, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) began efforts to prevent the vote from being filibustered. “Republicans deny they’re waging a war on women,” Reid said on the floor Thursday morning, “yet they’ve launched a series of attacks on women’s access to health care and contraception this year. Now they have an opportunity to back up their excuses with action.”

Here are five things you need to know about the Paycheck Fairness Act:

1. The Paycheck Fairness Act is not new: Democrats, however, have struggled to get it passed. Last time it came up for a vote, the House passed it with very little bipartisan support. Then Senate Republicans unanimously voted against the bill. Even if they had passed it, though, then-President George W. Bush vowed to veto it.

2. Pay equity is a real problem: Nearly half of all workers in the United States are women. But women tend to hold lower-paying jobs overall, and even when they have the exact same title as men, they make significantly less. Overall, women make 77 cents to a man’s dollar, and in some professions, specifically high-paying careers, that disparity is much higher. The Paycheck Fairness Act would help close the gap more quickly by providing incentives for employers not to discriminate.

3. Lost earnings have serious consequences: The amount of money an average woman loses to the pay gap could feed a family of four. And while the wage gap is slowly shrinking, at its current rate it won’t actually disappear for 45 years. Still, more women are becoming the primary breadwinners or dual-earners in their family, with nearly 40 percent of women out-earning their husbands and a larger number of women with high degrees entering the job market.

4. Existing law doesn’t go far enough: The Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act ensured that a woman has the proper window of time to sue for pay discrimination. The Paycheck Fairness Act takes significant steps to close loopholes in the original pay discrimination law, the Equal Pay Act, and to ensure that women can investigate whether they are being discriminated against. It also makes stronger penalties so that employers don’t violate pay discrimination laws. Included in the bill, too, is a grant for a salary-negotiation training program for women, who tend to be reluctant to negotiate.

5. Mitt Romney has not taken a position on the bill: After a very awkward moment over the Lilly Ledbetter Act, a spokesperson for his campaign said that Romney “supports pay equity and is not looking to change current law.” But it’s unclear whether this means Romney would support a new piece of legislation that protects women who don’t have full pay equity.
 
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Former Republican Congresswoman Blasts Modern GOP, Laments Party’s Approach To Women’s Issues
By Josh Israel on May 25, 2012 at 5:38 pm


Former Rep. Connie Morella (R-MD)
Over her eight terms as a Congresswoman from Maryland’s Eight District, Connie Morella earned a reputation one of the strongest voices for women’s rights and reproductive choice in the Republican Party. A bipartisan-minded moderate, she worked with members of both parties to shepherd the 2000 re-authorization of the Violence Against Women Act through the House with a 415 to 3 majority. Like former Sen. John Danforth (R-MO), she hardly recognizes her party today.

In an interview with ThinkProgress, Morella expressed disappointment with the anti-women voting record of the 24-member Republican Women’s Policy Committee and the lack of bipartisan House support for the Senate version of the Violence Against Women Act.

Among her observations:

On the GOP’s move to the right:
I think the [Republican] Party has moved more towards the right and it has become more solidified in terms of not offering opportunities for other voices to be heard. Look at [Indiana Republican Senate Nominee Richard] Mourdock’s statement when he proclaimed victory: I’m not going to give into them, they’re going to come over to me. The word compromise is not even in the lexicon, let alone an understanding of what it means.

On moderates in Congress:
I went to Harvard in 2008. My program’s theme was “An Endangered Species: A Moderate in the House of Representatives.” If I were to go back now, I think I’d have to say “An Extinct Species,” not endangered, extinct.

On the GOP-only Women’s Policy Committee:
I’ve always said that when you look at Congress, you had more bipartisanship with Congressional Caucus for Women’s Issues. The number of issues has gotten smaller… I was the prime sponsor in 2000 of the Violence Against Women Act, when it was reauthorized… On the floor, there was hardly a vote against it. And now, I don’t know why these women have been cornered, so to speak. Maybe they are motivated by the fact that this is an election year — and in a presidential election particularly, they want to act to counter the concept of the War on Women. That’s why they’re coming up with their own caucus, I suppose. I’ve always felt [the women's caucus] needed to be bipartisan… I think it’s a defensive attempt on the part of this caucus, because they’re concerned.

On a backlash for the GOP’s votes on women’s issues:
Women are a majority of the voting bloc. If they sense that some of the equities they worked so hard for are being taken away, you’ll see a backlash.

While she thinks the economy will be the biggest issue in the 2012 elections, she warns that if House Republicans insist on a Violence Against Women Act that says “except certain women,” it could hurt the party in November.

Morella says she’s disappointed with where the Republican Party has gone. “If I were there, I’d be one of the minorities voting against the party. There’s no big tent, not even a small tent. It collapsed.”
 
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Health

GOP Congressman: Women Who Undergo Abortions Should Face Criminal Charges
By Igor Volsky posted from ThinkProgress Health on Jun 1, 2012 at 5:59 pm

Rep. Cliff Stearns (R-FL) unwilling admitted to MSNBC’s Chris Matthews on Friday afternoon that he believed women who receive abortions should face criminal charges. “I think the punishment should certainly be very serious,” he said. “It should be more than a civil case. It should be something very serious”:

MATTHEWS: So it should be a criminal matter for the woman as well as the doctor?

STEARNS: I think so. You are killing an embryo and in some cases you are killing an embryo that is four or five months into ges


Stearns was appearing on the program to talk about the GOP’s recent effort to ban sex-selective abortions. That bill, the Prenatal Nondiscrimination Act or PRENDA, failed earlier this week and would have fined and imprisoned doctors who knowingly aborted fetuses based on racial or gender discrimination.

The congressman sought to defend the measure by arguing that “if all of Europe and most of Asia has this same rule, that you cannot have sex selection as an abortion, why can’t we in the united states pass the same bill?” But Matthews responded succinctly, saying, “it’s always amazing when you guys on the right want to import the values of other countries. Any time we do it, any time a liberal tries to do it, you say they’re bringing foreign values into this country.”
 
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BREAKING: Senate GOP Blocks Pay Equity Bill
By Annie-Rose Strasser on Jun 5, 2012 at 2:53 pm

Today, Republicans in the Senate blocked the Paycheck Fairness Act by filibustering the bill. The legislation would have strengthened protections for women who are being paid less because of their gender by creating larger penalties for employers who discriminate, creating more transparency of salaries so that women know whether they are being paid less, and protecting those who sue for pay equity.

Republicans framed the measure as a useless bureaucratic roadblock that would have hindered free enterprise and helped trial lawyers. Sen. Dean Heller (R-NV) called the bill a “war on free enterprise.” But Heller’s record on women’s issues is far from stellar: He previously voted against Paycheck Fairness when he was in the House of Representatives and also voted against the Lily Ledbetter Fair pay act, another pay equity bill.

Pay discrimination isn’t some fantasy of the left — it actually prevents families from higher earnings. On average, women make 77 cents to a man’s dollar. And that’s happening while more women are becoming the primary breadwinners or dual-earners in their family and a larger number of women with high degrees entering the job market.

Over her lifetime, the average woman loses enough in wages to feed a family of four for 37 years.

The Paycheck Fairness Act has become an election issue, as well. Rep. Shelley Berkley (D-NV), who is challenging Heller, cited his opposition as a sign that he is one of the warriors in the ongoing battle to destroy women’s rights. In Missouri, the Senatorial candidates have also butted heads on Paycheck Fairness (all three Republican candidates opposed the bill). And in the Presidential election, President Obama has come out strongly in favor of the bill, while Mitt Romney has kept silent on the issue.

Update
The measure was blocked by a 52-47 vote. Sen. Mark Kirk (R-IL) was absent for medical reasons. Majority Harry Reid switched his vote so that the bill could come up for another vote at some point down the road.
 
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After GOP Blocks Pay Equity, Sen. Barbara Mikulski Calls On Women To Start A ‘New American Revolution’
By Annie-Rose Strasser on Jun 5, 2012 at 3:45 pm

Immediately after the Paycheck Fairness Act failed to get enough votes to avoid a filibuster in the Senate today, Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D-MD), clearly fed up, gave a rousing speech aimed at women across the country who are equally angry at being under-paid and treated as unequal citizens.

Taking the floor as soon as the measure failed, Mikulski, who reintroduced the bill last week, shouted, “We’re going to foment our own revolution”:

I say to the women out there in America, let’s keep this fight going. Put on your lipstick, square your shoulders, suit up, and let’s fight for a new American revolution where women are paid equal pay for equal work, and let’s end wage discrimination in this century once and for all.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
Do you work for "think progress" ray?


From your article:

"I say to the women out there in America, let’s keep this fight going. Put on your lipstick, square your shoulders, suit up, and let’s fight for a new American revolution where women are paid equal pay for equal work, and let’s end wage discrimination in this century once and for all."


Did I miss 1920? Condi Rice, Hillary Clinton, Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, Nikki Haley, Queen Elizabeth, Janet Reno (or man), Meghan McCain, Mary Kay, Chelsea Clinton, Meg Whitman, Oh...lets not forget. Ann Romney has not worked a day in her life.

The bra burning, fist pumping, gender and race baiting is getting really old.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
actaully cash, i have quite few women in MY family, i don't know about you.

some of them have (actually alot) have advanced degrees and i know for a fact they get paid less than men.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
I know some men getting paid less than women, so where is the justice glass?
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
moooooo grazer
 
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Akin Clarifies ‘Legitimate Rape’ Comments: Women Make ‘False Claims’ About Being Raped
By Igor Volsky on Aug 21, 2012 at 1:56 pm

Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO) announced that he will continue with his race for the U.S. Senate, during an appearance on the Mike Huckabee radio show Tuesday afternoon, and clarified his claims that women who face “legitimate rape” cannot become pregnant.

Arguing that he misplaced the word “legitimate,” Akin explained — during a follow up interview with Dana Loesch — that he meant to argue that women sometimes lie about being raped:

AKIN: You know, Dr. Willke has just released a statement and part of his letter, I think he just stated it very clearly. He said, of course Akin never used the word legitimate to refer to the rapist, but to false claims like those made in Roe v. Wade and I think that simplifies it….. There isn’t any legitimate rapist…. [I was] making the point that there were people who use false claims, like those that basically created Roe v. Wade.

Since he first made the comments over the weekend, Akin claimed that he meant to say “forcible,” rather than “legitimate” rape.

And while many Republicans are distancing themselves from the candidate, staunch anti-choice conservatives are backing-up Akin’s explanation. Dr. John Willke, who describes himself as the “founding father” of the movement, issued a statement defending Akin and Huckabee approvingly read it during his interview on Tuesday.

Willke “is a leading proponent of the view that women are unlikely to become pregnant by ‘forcible rape,’ a theory he laid out in a 1999 article on the subject.”
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by raybond:
Akin Clarifies ‘Legitimate Rape’ Comments: Women Make ‘False Claims’ About Being Raped
By Igor Volsky on Aug 21, 2012 at 1:56 pm

Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO) announced that he will continue with his race for the U.S. Senate, during an appearance on the Mike Huckabee radio show Tuesday afternoon, and clarified his claims that women who face “legitimate rape” cannot become pregnant.

Arguing that he misplaced the word “legitimate,” Akin explained — during a follow up interview with Dana Loesch — that he meant to argue that women sometimes lie about being raped:

AKIN: You know, Dr. Willke has just released a statement and part of his letter, I think he just stated it very clearly. He said, of course Akin never used the word legitimate to refer to the rapist, but to false claims like those made in Roe v. Wade and I think that simplifies it….. There isn’t any legitimate rapist…. [I was] making the point that there were people who use false claims, like those that basically created Roe v. Wade.

Since he first made the comments over the weekend, Akin claimed that he meant to say “forcible,” rather than “legitimate” rape.

And while many Republicans are distancing themselves from the candidate, staunch anti-choice conservatives are backing-up Akin’s explanation. Dr. John Willke, who describes himself as the “founding father” of the movement, issued a statement defending Akin and Huckabee approvingly read it during his interview on Tuesday.

Willke “is a leading proponent of the view that women are unlikely to become pregnant by ‘forcible rape,’ a theory he laid out in a 1999 article on the subject.”

That guy needs to step down
 
Posted by Pagan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
quote:
Originally posted by raybond:
Akin Clarifies ‘Legitimate Rape’ Comments: Women Make ‘False Claims’ About Being Raped
By Igor Volsky on Aug 21, 2012 at 1:56 pm

Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO) announced that he will continue with his race for the U.S. Senate, during an appearance on the Mike Huckabee radio show Tuesday afternoon, and clarified his claims that women who face “legitimate rape” cannot become pregnant.

Arguing that he misplaced the word “legitimate,” Akin explained — during a follow up interview with Dana Loesch — that he meant to argue that women sometimes lie about being raped:

AKIN: You know, Dr. Willke has just released a statement and part of his letter, I think he just stated it very clearly. He said, of course Akin never used the word legitimate to refer to the rapist, but to false claims like those made in Roe v. Wade and I think that simplifies it….. There isn’t any legitimate rapist…. [I was] making the point that there were people who use false claims, like those that basically created Roe v. Wade.

Since he first made the comments over the weekend, Akin claimed that he meant to say “forcible,” rather than “legitimate” rape.

And while many Republicans are distancing themselves from the candidate, staunch anti-choice conservatives are backing-up Akin’s explanation. Dr. John Willke, who describes himself as the “founding father” of the movement, issued a statement defending Akin and Huckabee approvingly read it during his interview on Tuesday.

Willke “is a leading proponent of the view that women are unlikely to become pregnant by ‘forcible rape,’ a theory he laid out in a 1999 article on the subject.”

That guy needs to step down
Why should he step down cowpie? GOP are birds of a feather. I know ya hate it when your party shows their true colors. They are of the same ilk.
 


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