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Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
Elect me as President and I will close GITMO!


http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2012/02/28/good_news_us_government_builds _750000_soccer_field_for_gitmo_detainees


At a time of record deficits, a new soccer field for detainees at Camp 6 in Guantanamo Bay is just getting the finishing touches -- at a cost of $750,000 to taxpayers. The project was the highlight of a tour Tuesday of the detention camp for reporters at the facility covering the arraignment in a military court of Majid Khan, a former Baltimore resident and the the only legal U.S. resident on trial at Guantanamo.The project began in April 2011 and is due to finish this spring. The detainees will now have three recreation facilities at Camp 6, which is home to "highly compliant" detainees who live in a communal setting.

In addition to an indoor recreation field and the existing outdoor recreation field, the new soccer field -- selected because it is such a popular sport with detainees -- is half the size of an American football field. The new field has been specially constructed so that the detainees "have maximum access" -- about 20 hours a day. Special passageways allow the detainees to pass into the new recreation yard without being escorted by the military. On the tour, a military police representative who asked not to be identified by name said allowing high levels of activity outdoors helped reduce behavioral problems at the camps, and it also limited the amount of interaction between detainees and the guards.
 
Posted by Pagan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
Elect me as President and I will close GITMO!


http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2012/02/28/good_news_us_government_builds _750000_soccer_field_for_gitmo_detainees


At a time of record deficits, a new soccer field for detainees at Camp 6 in Guantanamo Bay is just getting the finishing touches -- at a cost of $750,000 to taxpayers. The project was the highlight of a tour Tuesday of the detention camp for reporters at the facility covering the arraignment in a military court of Majid Khan, a former Baltimore resident and the the only legal U.S. resident on trial at Guantanamo.The project began in April 2011 and is due to finish this spring. The detainees will now have three recreation facilities at Camp 6, which is home to "highly compliant" detainees who live in a communal setting.

In addition to an indoor recreation field and the existing outdoor recreation field, the new soccer field -- selected because it is such a popular sport with detainees -- is half the size of an American football field. The new field has been specially constructed so that the detainees "have maximum access" -- about 20 hours a day. Special passageways allow the detainees to pass into the new recreation yard without being escorted by the military. On the tour, a military police representative who asked not to be identified by name said allowing high levels of activity outdoors helped reduce behavioral problems at the camps, and it also limited the amount of interaction between detainees and the guards.

Elect me as President and I will start 2 wars, cause a trillion $ deficit, a housing/mortgage collapse, bank failures, unemployment, etc, etc, etc! Oh that's right, since it happened before Obama it doesn't exist right CCM? LMAO! You're such a moron.

Signed GWB
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
great post pagan, it clearly shows your anger at how frustrated you are over the issue.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
To win votes in 2008, Obama said many many things. One of them was he promised to close GITMO, and he blamed Bush for all sorts of things.


Blamed bush for the patriot act, blamed bush for GITMO. Obama resigned the patriot act and is improving gitmo!

What happens? We now are building soccer fields at a cost of 750K a pop for gitmo residents. Then, pagan wants to come on here and blame unemployment, and the deficit all on bush. You see the sense that makes? It doesnt.


Obama has spent more money in one term than Bush did in two, oh but its bushs fault that Obama had to spend that much right?


I may not be a big fan of Romney, but he is successful. SO WHAT if they have a few Cadillacs. What are they supposed to be driving? Imported Kias? I cant believe how libs smear that comment. Oh Mitt Romney is so out of touch he owns automobiles made by general motors.
 
Posted by Pagan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
great post pagan, it clearly shows your anger at how frustrated you are over the issue.

What...do you deny that happened? Really! LOL....you are soooo naive/stupid that it is disgusting. As I said...you are a moron. There is no way around it now. Even glassman gave up on you. Guess that means you are just a troll now looking for an argument. That's really sad.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
note teh date:

Obama budget includes $237 million to buy Illinois prison for Guantanamo detainees. UPDATED
By Lynn Sweet on February 1, 2010 8:00 AM | 4 Comments


President Obama on Monday will propose a $3.8-trillion fiscal 2011 federal budget that includes $237 million for the purchase and upgrading of a prison in Illinois to house detainees now at the Guantanamo Bay military prison in Cuba.

Obama sends his spending blueprint to Congress, with the money to buy the nearly vacant Thomson Correctional Center in northwest Illinois, 150 miles west of Chicago, in the Department of Justice funding request. The State of Illinois and the federal government are currently negotiating over the purchase price of Thomson.


Gitmo costs about a million per prisoner per year [Confused]
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
this is not something anybody can take credit for but the GOP's in teh HOUse:

Posted on Friday, April 15, 2011



Obama rips budget bill's Guantanamo restrictions

By Carol Rosenberg | McClatchy Newspapers

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama Friday signed into law a sweeping defense bill that specifically thwarts his goal of closing the prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, then issued a "signing statement" against it.

It's the second time the president has enacted into law Congress' ban on civilian trials for any of the last 172 Guantanamo captives and, in an echo of his predecessor, George W. Bush, the second time he blasted it as "a dangerous and unprecedented challenge to critical executive branch authority."

Since the first time, in December, Attorney General Eric Holder bowed to the will of Congress and just this month overruled himself and decided to let the Pentagon, not his Justice Department, prosecute the five alleged 9/11 conspirators as mass murderers, chief among them confessed mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who has been at Guantanamo since 2006.


 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
pagan: "Guess that means you are just a troll now looking for an argument. That's really sad."


Pagans topic posted just recently:

"Why MSNBC Dumped Pat Buchanan what a pos"
 
Posted by Pagan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
note teh date:

Obama budget includes $237 million to buy Illinois prison for Guantanamo detainees. UPDATED
By Lynn Sweet on February 1, 2010 8:00 AM | 4 Comments


President Obama on Monday will propose a $3.8-trillion fiscal 2011 federal budget that includes $237 million for the purchase and upgrading of a prison in Illinois to house detainees now at the Guantanamo Bay military prison in Cuba.

Obama sends his spending blueprint to Congress, with the money to buy the nearly vacant Thomson Correctional Center in northwest Illinois, 150 miles west of Chicago, in the Department of Justice funding request. The State of Illinois and the federal government are currently negotiating over the purchase price of Thomson.


Gitmo costs about a million per prisoner per year [Confused]

That is total garbage and untrue. Now before you respond, actually think about it please.
 
Posted by Pagan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
pagan: "Guess that means you are just a troll now looking for an argument. That's really sad."


Pagans topic posted just recently:

"Why MSNBC Dumped Pat Buchanan what a pos"

I am so proud that you can copy/paste. Just wish you would grow a brain of that brain stem. Otherwise(as you have shown), it's just a waste.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
Ok so I will note you as not having a problem with spending $750,000 to build SOCCER FIELDS for detainees at GITMO. Also not having a problem with unmanned drones being authorized over your home.

You sure know what the best use for tax dollars is! You just go along with anything Obama does. Like a flock to their shepherd.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Pagan:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
note teh date:

Obama budget includes $237 million to buy Illinois prison for Guantanamo detainees. UPDATED
By Lynn Sweet on February 1, 2010 8:00 AM | 4 Comments


President Obama on Monday will propose a $3.8-trillion fiscal 2011 federal budget that includes $237 million for the purchase and upgrading of a prison in Illinois to house detainees now at the Guantanamo Bay military prison in Cuba.

Obama sends his spending blueprint to Congress, with the money to buy the nearly vacant Thomson Correctional Center in northwest Illinois, 150 miles west of Chicago, in the Department of Justice funding request. The State of Illinois and the federal government are currently negotiating over the purchase price of Thomson.


Gitmo costs about a million per prisoner per year [Confused]

That is total garbage and untrue. Now before you respond, actually think about it please.
huh? what part is garbage? the first part is cut and paste and the 1 million$ per year? sorry Pagan it's only 800,000$ per year sheesh ...
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
I got a great idea. Lets build some private prisons for these detainees and award huge government contracts for them where most of it is wasted or often certain amounts go "missing".
 
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
 
Oye. Obama tried to close Gitmo. You can't deny it because it was one of the first showdowns between him and the House after he took office. Ultimately it failed because no state was willing to take the prisoners and the political tide had become dangerous with the whole "Bringing terrorists onto American Soil" crap rhetoric that sprang up.

He had to let it go. You can call it a failure if you want but as with so much else it was obstruction and spin from the gentlemen in Red that prevented it from happening. That doesn't make it a separation between the words and actions of Obama.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
Well bigfoot, in case you forgot a whole lot of voting citizens were against this.


As long as they dont go to LA, San Fran, NYC, or DC...who really cares, right?
 
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
 
What's your argument here CCM?

Are you saying you are for Gitmo being closed or against it? Because I hear you blaming Obama for not being able to close Gitmo and at the same time saying you were against it in the first place.

Or are you saying that you are against Gitmo being closed and against Gitmo detainees playing soccer?
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
i'm surprised raybond hasn't chimed in here.

the best argument i've heard is that the guards are most likely happy that they can let eh prisoners out of their holes.

i've never been a jailor nor am i cut out to be one. but if i were, i'd not like to watch my charges go slowly insane, and then have to deal with them in that state.

i've always beleived that you are no better than your worst actions, and quite frankly the whole notion of taking prisoners and detaining them somewhere "beyond the law" because it is expedititious is uncivilised. it tends to lend justification to other foul acts by our enemies.

torture? heck i'd troture somebody in dire consequences, and then i'd ask for presidential pardon. and i wouldn't lie about it, or hide it.

Bush's desire to "legitimise" and institutioanlise torture show a lack of intestinal fortitude and character.

you know damn well the seals were ordered not to take any risks wahtsoever in attempting to take binladen alive. key meaning here was if he blinks- and nobody in their right mind would be agaisnt that. heck we invaded a foreing country to get him, no problem there either.. but detaining people indefinitley without trial even in actual declared wartime just doesn't fly. yet the coutnry seems complacent about it at best.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
I wonder if we will be bringing Iranians to GITMO in the near future.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
prolly... they like soccer [Smile]
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
I guess we should get some unicorns down there for them too.
 


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