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Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/pledge-america-republican-plan-world-news-question-day/ story?id=11707021


It is not perfect, but it is better than what is going on.
 
Posted by jordanreed on :
 
pledge???!!!! give me a BREAK!! kindergarten crap...grow up...this republican party is nothing but children..try to speak in adultize please...grow some friggin cohones!!!
 
Posted by jordanreed on :
 
I pledge???........wimps!!!!!
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
Wimps? The gavel is changing hands soon JORDANREED. BTW did you watch Iran's President give his speech today?
 
Posted by jordanreed on :
 
why in the phuck would i waste my practice time on that crap-????
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
because he blames America for everything in the world.
 
Posted by jordanreed on :
 
so do IIII1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
 
Posted by jordanreed on :
 
ur one funny little dude!
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
You must be wasted tonight Jordan
 
Posted by jordanreed on :
 
bout time...
 
Posted by jordanreed on :
 
been playin out on a steady basis..its hard to come home and try to be a "normal " person....My world is so much removed from yours, that I think< if you were to enter my world, you may become enlightened ...to a certain extant... you might not like it, but maybe, you may broaden your ideas...
 
Posted by jordanreed on :
 
feel free to correct my spellig
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
Jordan are you coming out of the closet tonight on allstocks?
 
Posted by jordanreed on :
 
Ive never been "in" the closet....what are you asking?
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
Never?
 
Posted by jordanreed on :
 
nope...never...i will tell you anything you want to know...i never lied to my son..i will never lie to you you.....are you asking me if ia m gay?...no... look..if you played one hole of golf in your life?..does that make you a golfer??
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
Jordan, go to sleep.
 
Posted by jordanreed on :
 
lol
 
Posted by jordanreed on :
 
some forms of Taoism say that the dream state is reality
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
what little I have heard and read of it sounds like fascism and racism. Its nothing but a stinking manifesto to ruin whats left of the country and loot the general population. Its even stupider than Huckabee's talk comparing our health insurance to home owners insurance.The republican manifesto on how to ruin a nation a new manual for a new contract on America.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
the pledge is all old stuff cash, why repeat the stuff that got us here? Even if you agree Obama should have done differnt? YOU can't blame him for the recession. He DID NOT do it.

last night Jon Stewart did a very good "bit" (that's what comedians call their peices) on the Pledge.
here it is:

go to 7:30, he's going to show you side by side old clips and new clips where they repeat the exact same "pledge" [Wink] ...

http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/thu-september-23-2010-king-abdullah-ii -of-jordan
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
This was almost the exact same pledge given in 1994 then called the contract with America. Didn't work out to good for them then
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
young Boehner- Old Boehner saying the same thing really is kindof funny in a sad sort of way...

the Dems deserved to lose the Congress in 94.

It SEEMED to be better for the country to have a split Govt.

BUT,
this situation is beginning to take on a Saturday Night Live look to me, and i mean the old SNL when John Belushi was trippin' out every show...

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wait till the GOP puts Haley Barbour up agin Obama...

this country will will be like the wicked witch after Dorthy threw water on 'er...
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
the pledge is all old stuff cash, why repeat the stuff that got us here? Even if you agree Obama should have done differnt? YOU can't blame him for the recession. He DID NOT do it.

last night Jon Stewart did a very good "bit" (that's what comedians call their peices) on the Pledge.
here it is:

go to 7:30, he's going to show you side by side old clips and new clips where they repeat the exact same "pledge" [Wink] ...

http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/thu-september-23-2010-king-abdullah-ii -of-jordan

Wow...that King Abdullah sure was well spoken. What a presence...
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
aw,comon Tex, that was an actor [Big Grin] (JK)
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
Well some principles wont go away, they will always be a foundation. How about all the broken promises Obama was selling you all that were bought into to get elected? Psshhhhh.....like that transparency?
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
cash, Obama got elected because people were sick of Bush... heck he could have even been white and still got elected...
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
The pledge a lot of trhe same old republican ideas in a new cover


REP. PETER ROSKAM (R-IL): Reign in the Washington, DC red tape.. [9/23/10]

FORMER REP. DENNIS HASTERT (R-IL): Cut Washington red tape.. [1/3/01]

REP. JEB HANSERLING (R-TX): Act immediately to reduce spending.. [9/23/10]

FORMER HOUSE SPEAKER NEWT GINGRICH (R-GA): Have real reforms to reduce spending.. [6/5/98]

REP. JASON CHAFFETZ (R-UT): Change the way we do business in Washington..[9/23/10]

REP. JIM NUSSLE (R-IA): Change business as usual in Washington..[11/19/94]

ROSKAM: Make the tax cuts permanent.. [9/23/10]

FORMER MAJORITY LEADER DICK ARMEY (R-TX): Make the existing tax cuts permanent [9/15/02]

REP. BILL CASSIDY (R-LA): ..health savings accounts that puts the patient firmly in control…[9/23/10]

HASTERT: Health savings accounts which will give families more control.. [8/30/04]

HANSERLING: Reduce the size of our government..[9/23/10]

GINGRICH: ..reducing the size of government.. [9/18/03]

BOEHNER: A smaller, less costly, and more accountable government in our nation’s capital. [9/23/10]

BOEHNER: A smaller, less costly, and more accountable government in Washington. [4/3/98]
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
I know that glass, are you telling me that a lot of things he said to get elected...were not puffery? Sure you say candidates make campaign promises all the time that dont ever amount to anything, but he promised change from that. He said HE was the different one, the real deal free of special interests. What he really meant was free from Bush special interests. He has his own, big time.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
I know that glass, are you telling me that a lot of things he said to get elected...were not puffery? Sure you say candidates make campaign promises all the time that dont ever amount to anything, but he promised change from that. He said HE was the different one, the real deal free of special interests. What he really meant was free from Bush special interests. He has his own, big time.

He coulda got a lot more done, but the Kochie-Koos bought enough moderate Senators to foul up the works...

You really oughta read that article.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
I know that glass, are you telling me that a lot of things he said to get elected...were not puffery? Sure you say candidates make campaign promises all the time that dont ever amount to anything, but he promised change from that. He said HE was the different one, the real deal free of special interests. What he really meant was free from Bush special interests. He has his own, big time.

He coulda got a lot more done, but the Kochie-Koos bought enough moderate Senators to foul up the works...

You really oughta read that article.

Alright tex, ill take a gander and see what its about.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
Here is something I found interesting:

Global Governance 2025

http://www.foia.cia.gov/2025/2025_Global_Governance.pdf
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
are you telling me that a lot of things he said to get elected...were not puffery

cash, i told you he wasn't superman before the election.

after you've watched a half dozen presidantial elections? you realise 90% of it is BS from all of 'em.

and guess what? nobody would vote for an honest person.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
I think he has a fundamental honesty rarely found at that level.

But he's dumb as only "too-smart" people can be...

I think he actually believed that Jimmy Stewart scene.

As if a little passion and some reasonability would carry the day...that is, too green in his political career to realize the depths of Mordor.

The super-rich ain't gonna just roll over and start playing fair.

Look no further than our own Revolution.

The crown could've cut a slick deal and kept milking that goat for decades. But no, they had to get all royal about it.

Today, though, the powers-that-be have control that the crown could have only lusted toward.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
too true Tex...

i wonder how many US citizens know that the reason the Brits wanted to raise our taxes (you know, on Tea?) was cuz the Brits were having budget problems due to the Seven Years war or as it was known int he Americas the French and Indian War?

That's where George W got his battle training as British Colonial soldier. The 7 year war doubled Britains debt and they beleive we colonists owed our "fair share"...

the colonists said they wouldn't pay without representation....

it would be a good debate whether Britain could have bought off the Colonies with a seat or two at parliamnet to diffuse the no taxation without representation issue...

there were slightly more than 2 million Colonists in 1770... Britains population was only 6.5 million a the time.

theoretically we should have had quite a few seats at the table. I don't get the sense that was what the colonists really wanted tho...

oh, i should add that ht eSeven Years War was a real world war, it was fought all over the place, not just here, but it did mostly start here
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
I think he has a fundamental honesty rarely found at that level.


The Obameter: Tracking Obama's Campaign Promises

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The Obameter Scorecard

* Promise Kept 122

* Compromise 39

* Promise Broken 22

* Stalled 82

* In the Works 238

* Not yet rated

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
Sure, that war broke it open...

30% populace ratio is too much too ignore

But not only did they try various taxes/tariffs etc, they tried that goofy "quartering" thing.

That's one of the great ironies examined by no author, pundit, sociologist, etc that I know of, or about.

On the one hand, you've got a significant percentage of the populace primed to fight back. And? They're across an ocean beyond your in-country troops. And? By this point, they not only know the terrain but also they're more adept at the fighting style of the indigenous people.

So say I'm one of them. Let's go further--let's say I'm undecided: I was thinking about joining them, but NOW this bugs me: Do I *really* want to put up with providing three hots and a cot for some snot-nosed punk from corn'all-lest'shire whatever?

Then? then...then throw in the allure of *all* the western lands to the Mississippi.

-*-*-*-

So, really that's sort of easy to get behind.

Nowadays, though, if things get squirrely, who would welcome federal troops into their home?

Sure, a first reaction might be, "Hayle, yeah, I love me some soldiers and feel safer if there's some right here at hand."

Others might react as, "Hayle, no, I ain't about to have no feds-whatever in my house."

It could get dicey.

[ September 25, 2010, 01:23: Message edited by: T e x ]
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
I think he has a fundamental honesty rarely found at that level.


The Obameter: Tracking Obama's Campaign Promises

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The Obameter Scorecard

* Promise Kept 122

* Compromise 39

* Promise Broken 22

* Stalled 82

* In the Works 238

* Not yet rated

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

He had that many promises?
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
well, as far I know, the first choice should have been about the market.

Ha! imagine that, a Joe Retail trader

a long-haired leaping gnome

spillin' da wine on Gordon bey-otch Gecko

Apprising the spectre of the ...

MID-Term election.

Following a jail term...

Doesn't get much more Modern American than that, does it?
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
well, as far I know, the first choice should have been about the market.

Ha! imagine that, a Joe Retail trader

a long-haired leaping gnome

spillin' da wine on Gordon bey-otch Gecko

Apprising the spectre of the ...

MID-Term election.

Following a jail term...

Doesn't get much more Modern American than that, does it?

Im going to see that movie Saturday night! Wall St 2. Gordon is BACK!
 
Posted by Relentless. on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jordanreed:
some forms of Taoism say that the dream state is reality

Images of other realities you exist in...
This reality is a dream to those realities and seem just as peculiar.

Considering the quantum nature of the brain this would then seem to be a plausible notion.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
Ok so I just saw Wall St 2, and it kind of pissed me off. I mean it was good, but....Oliver Stone made it more of a love story than hardcore business. Oh and the original Bud Fox makes a timely appearance in the movie, make you laugh.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
I think he has a fundamental honesty rarely found at that level.


The Obameter: Tracking Obama's Campaign Promises

 -
The Obameter Scorecard

* Promise Kept 122

* Compromise 39

* Promise Broken 22

* Stalled 82

* In the Works 238

* Not yet rated

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

What a jerk, if you click the link and see his broken promises these arent anything small at all.

Broken promise:

No. 515: No family making less than $250,000 will see "any form of tax increase."


Complete opposite of what is going on.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
There's just no point...
 
Posted by buckstalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
There's just no point...

I hear ya...it's like talking to a log
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
or, at best, a no-talent pup
 


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