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After saying Obama has ‘hatred for white people,’ Beck claims, ‘I’m not saying that he doesn’t like white people.’ Discussing the upcoming meeting at the White House between President Obama, Henry Louis Gates, Jr. and Officer Jim Crowley, Glenn Beck declared that it was “unbelievable” that the three would meet for a “teachable moment” about a sensitive issue in American life. “Who needs to learn what here?” asked Beck, adding, “this president has exposed himself, I think, as a guy, over and over and over again, who has a deep-seated hatred for white people, or white culture.” Challenged by Brian Kilmeade, Beck then claimed that he wasn’t saying Obama “doesn’t like white people”:
KILMEADE: But listen, you can’t say he doesn’t like white people. David Axelrod’s white, Rahm Emanuel’s his chief of staff, this, I think 70 percent of the people we see everyday are white. Robert Gibbs is white.
BECK: I’m not saying that he doesn’t like white people. I’m saying he has a problem. He has a, this guy is, I believe, a racist. Look the way, look at the things he has been surrounded by.
According to the thesaurus, the antonym of hate is like. So, yes, when Glenn Beck says Obama has a “hatred” of white people he is saying that “he doesn’t like white people.”
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
Well when you attended a church for MANY years with a black liberation activist for a pastor some people may question your personal harbors.
Posted by SeekingFreedom on :
I was actually watching when that exchange took place. Kilmeade was trying to say that Obama couldn't be against all white people since he had placed white people into his Czar cabinet. Beck made the point that he (Obama) wasn't against all white people, but that he (Beck) believed that Obama has a deep seated 'anti-whitey' belief system.
Against what The (White) Man stands for, but not against all white men.
Posted by wallymac on :
"Against what The (White) Man stands for, but not against all white men."
What exactly does The (White) Man stand for?
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
quote:Originally posted by wallymac: "Against what The (White) Man stands for, but not against all white men."
What exactly does The (White) Man stand for?
Probably for freedom to go to voting locations without having black panthers guarding the doors with weapons intimidating voters into voting for Obama as we saw last election.
Posted by rounder1 on :
quote:Originally posted by wallymac: "Against what The (White) Man stands for, but not against all white men."
What exactly does The (White) Man stand for?
Being white this made me reflect......
"faster horses, younger women, older whiskey, more money."......Tom T. Hall (I think)
Posted by SeekingFreedom on :
quote:Originally posted by wallymac: "Against what The (White) Man stands for, but not against all white men."
What exactly does The (White) Man stand for?
That depends on who you ask, Wally. For the standard, myopic, controversial answer, you can ask several people that know Pres. Obama...
Jeremiah Wright: –"Barack knows what it means to be a black man to be living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich white people. Hillary can never know that. Hillary ain't never been called a n-----."
– "To say “I am a Christian” is not enough. Why? Because the Christianity of the slaveholder is not the Christianity of the slave. The God to whom the slaveholders pray as they ride on the decks of the slave ship is not the God to whom the enslaved are praying as they ride beneath the decks on that slave ship."
Michelle Obama:
From the February 11, 2007, edition of CBS’ 60 Minutes: KROFT: This is a tough question to ask, but a number of years ago, Colin Powell was thinking about running for president, and his wife, Alma, really did not want him to run.
MICHELLE OBAMA: Mm-hmm.
KROFT: She was worried about some crazy person with a gun.
MICHELLE OBAMA: Mm-hmm.
KROFT: Is that something that you think about?
MICHELLE OBAMA: I don’t lose sleep over it, because the realities are that, you know, as a black man, you know, Barack can get shot going to the gas station, you know. So, you know, you can’t — you know, you can’t make decisions based on fear and the possibility of what might happen. We just weren’t raised that way.
Or ask him directly...
Pres. Obama:
I can no more disown him[Wright] than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother — a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.
I cannot swallow whole the view of Lincoln as the Great Emancipator.
I can’t help but view the American experience through the lens of a black man of mixed heritage, forever mindful of how generations of people who looked like me were subjugated and stigmatized, and the subtle and not so subtle ways that race and class continue to shape our lives.
Rightly or wrongly, white guilt has largely exhausted itself in America; even the most fair-minded of whites, those who would genuinely like to see racial inequality ended and poverty relieved, tend to push back against suggestions of racial victimization—or race-specific claims based on the history of race discrimination in this country. Posted by wallymac on :
"Against what The (White) Man stands for, but not against all white men."
I thought that this was your comment. So I was asking you to explain what it means to you not take a few quotes from a few individuals who didn't make the comment.
In fact the quotes you referenced were more about the experience of being black in America not about what the "WHITE MAN" stands for.
So, since you made the comment, what does it mean to you?
Posted by Pagan on :
quote:Originally posted by wallymac: "Against what The (White) Man stands for, but not against all white men."
I thought that this was your comment. So I was asking you to explain what it means to you not take a few quotes from a few individuals who didn't make the comment.
In fact the quotes you referenced were more about the experience of being black in America not about what the "WHITE MAN" stands for.
So, since you made the comment, what does it mean to you?
That's gonna be like getting blood from a turnip wally! Posted by SeekingFreedom on :
I don't think the 'White Man' stands for anything any more than the 'Black Man' stands for anything.
Just by using the generalization, you categorically ignore the fact that there are both good and bad people from all ethnicities. This is why I cannot stand it when racism is reflexively used as a trump card for any confrontation between members of different 'races.' We saw this in the Gates\Crowley incident. First thing out of Obama's mouth (paraphrased) was "I don't know anything about the situation..." quickly followed by "But the white cop was an idiot..." and "Just goes to show what racism still exists in America."
Not, "I don't know the details so I'll reserve judgement until I do...", but that it had to be a racist cop putting down the innocent black professor.
DAMN WHITEY!!!!
The reaon I added the quotes above is to show what keeps the spectre of racism alive. It's the refusal to let go of the past and acknowledge the strides that have been made. Bill Cosby has been almost universally outcast by many leaders in the 'black community' because of this very message.
Rev. Wright epitomizes the thoughts and actions that have prevented and continue to prevent black America from moving ahead and achieving their potential as a people. He suggests that this United States of America made up of sons and daughters of immigrants (I'm talking of the millions of 1st, 2nd, 3rd generation immigrants in this country) of every race, creed, color and religion, each and everyone of them who had nothing to do with slavery, somehow owe something to a group of people who have never been slaves? It's amazing. It seems everyone is to blame for the shambles black society is in with its violence, drugs, high school drop out rates, misogyny, and a host of other real and virulent problems, except for the very people who engage in such behavior. Enough. As a society, culture or people, they should look within themselves and fix their problems. When did this man become the spokesman for the black church? And of course his church is different, but that doesn't mean his message and philosophy is acceptable, or productive or non-offensive or not-racist or indicative or our greater cultural behaviors, values and norms as Americans.
And yes, the link between this man and Obama really does matter. At a very minimum, it provides insight into the political and philosophical strain that Obama adheres to.
Comment by Bill Cosby - April 28, 2008
Posted by SeekingFreedom on :
quote:That's gonna be like getting blood from a turnip wally!
How so, P?
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
How many of you liberals called George Bush a racist after hurricane Katrina! My goodness....talk about a liberal spin.
Posted by wallymac on :
"I don't think the 'White Man' stands for anything any more than the 'Black Man' stands for anything."
Then why use that comment?
"First thing out of Obama's mouth (paraphrased) was "I don't know anything about the situation..." quickly followed by "But the white cop was an idiot..." and "Just goes to show what racism still exists in America."
Not a paraphrase but a complete misquote of what was said. I wonder why?
"Not, "I don't know the details so I'll reserve judgement until I do...", but that it had to be a racist cop putting down the innocent black professor."
Again a misrepresentation of what was stated.
"DAMN WHITEY!!!!"
"The reaon I added the quotes above is to show what keeps the spectre of racism alive. It's the refusal to let go of the past and acknowledge the strides that have been made"
pretty ironic since your comments show that racism is alive and that you refuse to let go of the very same things that you accuse Obama and Gates of.
Posted by rounder1 on :
quote:Originally posted by SeekingFreedom:
quote:That's gonna be like getting blood from a turnip wally!
How so, P?
I think Pagen is saying that he/she is: not a dude, or not white, or not a white dude.
We could all play "guess what Pagen is"!!!!!
I am going to go with a White "Goth" Chick Posted by CashCowMoo on :
Pagans are bitter people
Posted by Pagan on :
quote:Originally posted by rounder1:
quote:Originally posted by SeekingFreedom:
quote:That's gonna be like getting blood from a turnip wally!
How so, P?
I think Pagen is saying that he/she is: not a dude, or not white, or not a white dude.
We could all play "guess what Pagen is"!!!!!
I am going to go with a White "Goth" Chick
I think I will go with that your an idiot. Seems about right. You moogirl,SF, and Lockfool are just right wingnuts. Your petty sad attempts at attacking me are foolish at best.
PS: learn to spell.
Posted by SeekingFreedom on :
Wow! Where to begin...
quote:Then why use that comment?
Because it's the term that is floated to reference the racism that exists. If you happen to have a better terminology for it, I will happily employ it.
quote:Not a paraphrase but a complete misquote of what was said. I wonder why?
I can't seem to find a transcript of the healthcare 'infomercial' that the comment came from, but if you go over to Daily Show
you'll see the video of his response. My paraphrase is, imho, pretty accurate. If you disagree? That's ok, too.
quote:pretty ironic since your comments show that racism is alive and that you refuse to let go of the very same things that you accuse Obama and Gates of.
ROFL. I have many character flaws, Wally. Racism, however, isn't one of them. What do you think that I've posted that would lead you to believe otherwise?
Posted by rounder1 on :
quote:Originally posted by Pagan:
quote:Originally posted by rounder1:
quote:Originally posted by SeekingFreedom:
quote:That's gonna be like getting blood from a turnip wally!
How so, P?
I think Pagen is saying that he/she is: not a dude, or not white, or not a white dude.
We could all play "guess what Pagen is"!!!!!
I am going to go with a White "Goth" Chick
I think I will go with that your an idiot. Seems about right. You moogirl,SF, and Lockfool are just right wingnuts. Your petty sad attempts at attacking me are foolish at best.
PS: learn to spell.
Sorry I missed spelled your name. It is not a word I use very often. As for the rest....I was not trying to attack you at all. Just being playful.....If it was offensive; I apologize.
I don't usually attack with animation.....but the concept is deceptively sneaky and I will keep it mind for future reference.
Seriously Pagan, I am just funnin' around trying to lighten the mood a little.....thought it was a little amusing.....had no malicious intentions.
Posted by jdizz on :
all i gotta say, i dunno if this is off topic or what b.c i dont feel like reading all this post but now a days its the black people who are racist...most jobs you have to be a certain color to get jobs now and its not white.. look at all who are just on goverment needs blaming the white people all day b.c they dont have a job. but all i gotta say is go get a job and quite reling on me to feed your family
Posted by wallymac on :
"Because it's the term that is floated to reference the racism that exists"
Really? I must not watch enough Fox Channel because I haven't heard that since the 60's and early 70's.
I can't seem to find a transcript of the healthcare 'infomercial' that the comment came from, but if you go over to Daily Show
"you'll see the video of his response. My paraphrase is, imho, pretty accurate. If you disagree? That's ok, too."
Thanks for the clip it's really funny but Obama said that the CAMBRIDGE POLICE DEPARTMENT ACTED STUPIDLY. Probably for arresting a man that was in his own home. Did he act Stupidly by responding in that manner, yes. I think Jon Stewart nailed that.
"ROFL. I have many character flaws, Wally. Racism, however, isn't one of them. What do you think that I've posted that would lead you to believe otherwise?"
The phrase: "what the White Man stands for" is blatantly racist on it's face. It implies that the White Man stands for something different than what Non Whites stand for.
Have strides been made in race relations over the years, of course they have but there is still a segment of society that believes all the old stereotypes. I read many of those on this site. Like Mexicans & Blacks are lazy looking for handouts.
And of course Mooman's urban legend that: "Probably for freedom to go to voting locations without having black panthers guarding the doors with weapons intimidating voters into voting for Obama as we saw last election." or the post above by JDizz.
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
It sure is easy for someone to call someone else a racist. Its one of those things if all else fails, pull the race card.
Posted by glassman on :
ROFL. I have many character flaws, Wally. Racism, however, isn't one of them. What do you think that I've posted that would lead you to believe otherwise?
this:
First thing out of Obama's mouth (paraphrased) was "I don't know anything about the situation..." quickly followed by "But the white cop was an idiot..." and "Just goes to show what racism still exists in America."
you heard a black man critisize a white man and you were (racially) offended.
it's plain as day.
Posted by SeekingFreedom on :
quote:The phrase: "what the White Man stands for" is blatantly racist on it's face. It implies that the White Man stands for something different than what Non Whites stand for.
LMAO!!!!
So, am I a white who's racist against myself?
My original use of the term was to try and explain what I understood Mr. Beck's position to be in the interview that Ray cited. Nowhere did I state that I believed that the White Man stood for anything...good OR bad.
That was simply the best way I had to express that opinion as I understood it. Once again, if you have a better way of summarizing it, show me and I will happily adopt it in the future.
Posted by SeekingFreedom on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: ROFL. I have many character flaws, Wally. Racism, however, isn't one of them. What do you think that I've posted that would lead you to believe otherwise?
this:
First thing out of Obama's mouth (paraphrased) was "I don't know anything about the situation..." quickly followed by "But the white cop was an idiot..." and "Just goes to show what racism still exists in America."
you heard a black man critisize a white man and you were (racially) offended.
it's plain as day.
Being offended, Glass, and being disgusted are two entirely different things. Few things in life offend me because I choose not to be offended. That is a power I refuse to give others. Unlike some that I've been lumped with before (whites, christians, conservatives, etc) I don't rank my personal importance\self esteem with my racial identity. People can insult a member of my ethinicity and it doesn't affect me at all.
I don't care that Obama critized a white man. If that's what you believe my issue with this 'misunderstanding' in Cambridge is, let me assure you that you're mistaken. My concern\frustration is that he admitted that he didn't have the details and immediately threw the race card. I wouldn't have cared if the officer had been hispanic and Obama said what he said. I still would have been upset.
Posted by glassman on :
My concern\frustration is that he admitted that he didn't have the details and immediately threw the race card.
it's pretty clear Obama knew alot more than you did.
and being a constitutional law professor? he made a true statement as we have shown you here.
the police also agreed by dropping the charges.
do you deny that there is history of race problems?
Posted by glassman on :
beck and limbugger have both spoken loudly on the issue too. you are in good co. Posted by wallymac on :
"I don't care that Obama critized a white man. If that's what you believe my issue with this 'misunderstanding' in Cambridge is, let me assure you that you're mistaken. My concern\frustration is that he admitted that he didn't have the details and immediately threw the race card. I wouldn't have cared if the officer had been hispanic and Obama said what he said. I still would have been upset."
First off let's look at the transcript and not the one liner that has been shown over and over..Only took a minute to find.
"THE PRESIDENT: Well, I should say at the outset that "Skip" Gates is a friend, so I may be a little biased here. I don't know all the facts. What's been reported, though, is that the guy forgot his keys, jimmied his way to get into the house, there was a report called into the police station that there might be a burglary taking place -- so far, so good, right? I mean, if I was trying to jigger into -- well, I guess this is my house now so -- (laughter) -- it probably wouldn't happen. But let's say my old house in Chicago -- (laughter) -- here I'd get shot. (Laughter.)
But so far, so good. They're reporting -- the police are doing what they should. There's a call, they go investigate what happens. My understanding is at that point Professor Gates is already in his house. The police officer comes in, I'm sure there's some exchange of words, but my understanding is, is that Professor Gates then shows his ID to show that this is his house. And at that point, he gets arrested for disorderly conduct -- charges which are later dropped.
Now, I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role race played in that, but I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry; number two, that the Cambridge Police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home; and number three, what I think we know separate and apart from this incident is that there is a long history in this country of African Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately. That's just a fact.
As you know, Lynn, when I was in the state legislature in Illinois, we worked on a racial profiling bill because there was indisputable evidence that blacks and Hispanics were being stopped disproportionately. And that is a sign, an example of how, you know, race remains a factor in this society. That doesn't lessen the incredible progress that has been made. I am standing here as testimony to the progress that's been made.
And yet the fact of the matter is, is that this still haunts us. And even when there are honest misunderstandings, the fact that blacks and Hispanics are picked up more frequently and often time for no cause casts suspicion even when there is good cause. And that's why I think the more that we're working with local law enforcement to improve policing techniques so that we're eliminating potential bias, the safer everybody is going to be.
Now going back to your statements that Obama called the White Officer stupid and Criticized a White Man.
First, he did neither if you read the transcript. Second you are the one that keeps posting the "White Man" in detailing this and in explaining why your posts aren't racist. It's clear that the race baiting here is that you in your attempt to qualify Beck's comment and your own have gone overboard in an attempt to make Obama out to be a racist. I wonder why?
Posted by glassman on :
Hamlet: Madam, how like you this play?
Queen: The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
WHERE IS HIS BIRTH CERT????? KNOW ONE HAS EVER SEEN IT, IT GOT LOST!,LMAO JUST WAIT CHIT GONNA HIT THE FAN. TRY TO FINED IT YOU CANT, KNOW ONE CAN,
Posted by rounder1 on :
Who cares?....really?
Not intentionally trying to be "flip"; but ponder this:
If any person had the ability to preserve one race from extinction.....would they pick one different from their own (interacial couples excluded or persons with I.R. kids).
99% of persons would preserve their own race (yes that is a 100% made up statistic)....but think about it.
You will not get away from racial bias......ever!
That does not mean that, collectively, a society can not move towards equality and fairness.
Obama (which I am no fan of) made a comment that was "racially charged"......I don't care. My Grandfather told me everyday of his life "don't mess with no Niggars"......I dismissed him also.
Good people sometimes have dumba$$ bias.....water is wet too btw.....
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
I dont look at skin color. I look at character. If I call someone out on their character and they are not white...the ideology of race card players is to assume im doing racial attacks.
That is what is wrong.
Posted by glassman on :
good point rounder, and pretty much how i feel.
my grandads both used the N word without thinking about it.
i can't help that, and i can't help that black men like Gates and Wrights had to live thru what they did. they will Probably always carry the burdens that make them angry.
i dunno how anybody can say that a black man that lived in the US during the 50's and 60's has nothing to be angry about.
we can keep moving towards equality and fairness by being honest. we can't change the past, but we can change the future
Posted by rounder1 on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: good point rounder, and pretty much how i feel.
my grandads both used the N word without thinking about it.
i can't help that, and i can't help that black men like Gates and Wrights had to live thru what they did. they will Probably always carry the burdens that make them angry.
i dunno how anybody can say that a black man that lived in the US during the 50's and 60's has nothing to be angry about.
we can keep moving towards equality and fairness by being honest. we can't change the past, but we can change the future
Dead on.
Posted by rounder1 on :
I will say this though......as much as I hate conformity, P.C., and most liberal policy......
I will confess that had it not been for changes brought about by one or all three of the aforementioned......"Granddaddy's mindset" would have been the only one that I knew.
That is a scary realization for me on a personal level. I still lean conservative and usually stand for "classic" values....but I wonder at what point the next generation will not be able to tell my views from his.
Posted by raybond on :
There is only one cure for a racist attitude,anyway this worked for me,I like all the white kids where I grew up were racist.Anyway the cure for me was to be forceed to live with the people that I disliked for no reason and education that made you under stand why racim exist today.
Now i will tell you some thing eles raising my children in a open minded and none racist household I can tell you this my kids don't have a racist bone in there body. this just needs to happen everywhere. But it only can change through awareness and working on passing that awareness down. And maybe one day in the future people will be free of this sickness
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
When do you draw the line between racism and mere facts such as crime statistics?
Posted by T e x on :
There is only one cure for a racist attitude,anyway this worked for me,I like all the white kids where I grew up were racist.Anyway the cure for me was to be forceed to live with the people that I disliked for no reason and education that made you under stand why racim exist today.
Don't know about "forced" environments, per se...
for instance, I know some military types who only had their stereotypes reinforced, not pleasantly.
But for me? Athletics played a huge role. That doesn't explain, however, that we were forced together--because some guys never got over their prejudices. For me, though, it was great. I learned more, just for example, from black guys about how to be a receiver than any of my coaches ever taught me. I learned the most about basketball from a white guy a few years' older, who had played on the Air Force Championship team from about '67 or so--think he didn't know about "diversity"? I learned about soccer nearly as much as I taught from Hispanic, innner-city, at-risk kids.
I guess what I'm saying is, if you're willing to learn, you will...
Posted by raybond on :
IN my case Tex I learned that we had more in comon than differences. Be fore I knew it I was not seeing black any more I was seeing green the green that we all wore. The next step for me was education and understaning how racism started in this country and why it was promoted then I understood. And let me be perfectly honest with you a blsck person has never done one bad thing to me and if they did would that be a reason to blame the whole African American community.
I came from poverty and its not pretty what it does to people wether you are white,black or brown it is the same and it is hard to change.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by raybond: IN my case Tex I learned that we had more in comon than differences. Be fore I knew it I was not seeing black any more I was seeing green the green that we all wore. The next step for me was education and understaning how racism started in this country and why it was promoted then I understood. And let me be perfectly honest with you a blsck person has never done one bad thing to me and if they did would that be a reason to blame the whole African American community.
I came from poverty and its not pretty what it does to people wether you are white,black or brown it is the same and it is hard to change.
sounds as though you are open to change...
Posted by Lockman on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: ROFL. I have many character flaws, Wally. Racism, however, isn't one of them. What do you think that I've posted that would lead you to believe otherwise?
this:
First thing out of Obama's mouth (paraphrased) was "I don't know anything about the situation..." quickly followed by "But the white cop was an idiot..." and "Just goes to show what racism still exists in America."
you heard a black man critisize a white man and you were (racially) offended.
it's plain as day.
Critized unjustly by the President of the United States, that does raise a few red flags.
Posted by Lockman on :
quote:Originally posted by raybond: There is only one cure for a racist attitude,anyway this worked for me,I like all the white kids where I grew up were racist.Anyway the cure for me was to be forceed to live with the people that I disliked for no reason and education that made you under stand why racim exist today.
Now i will tell you some thing eles raising my children in a open minded and none racist household I can tell you this my kids don't have a racist bone in there body. this just needs to happen everywhere. But it only can change through awareness and working on passing that awareness down. And maybe one day in the future people will be free of this sickness
I agree with you RB, the solution for racism is a two way street though. Both sides must understand what it is that promotes fear in one another.
Posted by glassman on :
Critized unjustly by the President of the United States, that does raise a few red flags.
nope, not unjustly. it is settled law. it is NOT illegal to be rude to police.
it is stupid.
i have even seen interviews of Police Academy (in CT no less) training staff since this incident explain that noone teaches that arresting someone for being rude is OK.
we give police a tool called disorderly conduct.
it leaves a lot of discretion to make an arrest.
in this case the police themselves recomended to the DA to drop the charges.
if this had gone to court? there are dozens of civil lawyers that would have jumped all over the cop.
Posted by rounder1 on :
I know that I am beating this into the ground but I am wondering.......
Does anyone else think that it is to easy to be a Cop........not talking about the job.......I mean to get the job.
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
First you do a year to two years of schooling.
Then you go to academy...
Then if you don't wash out you are a 'peace' officer and have the credentials necessary to be hired as a police officer and are are put on the auction block where you choose if you want to prove yourself on overnights in the city or on days in podunk-ville.
But that is up here in MN. Some states do not require you to be a certified 'peace' officer to be hired as a policeman.
Posted by rounder1 on :
quote:Originally posted by The Bigfoot: First you do a year to two years of schooling.
Then you go to academy...
Then if you don't wash out you are a 'peace' officer and have the credentials necessary to be hired as a police officer and are are put on the auction block where you choose if you want to prove yourself on overnights in the city or on days in podunk-ville.
But that is up here in MN. Some states do not require you to be a certified 'peace' officer to be hired as a policeman.
Here in GA. I can run for Sheriff of the whole county.....get elected and complete a 4 month training course after the fact.
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
Sheriff is an elected position so that may well be the case here as well. But good luck trying to get a majority to vote for you without any experience on your resume.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by rounder1: I know that I am beating this into the ground but I am wondering.......
Does anyone else think that it is to easy to be a Cop........not talking about the job.......I mean to get the job.
This really, really pisses me of that I have to remember what I posted cuz dumbass CHARTER internet is so unreliable in a storm...
but here goes: The problem with most cops is that they are bullies. My best man at my second wedding (married 20 years) said it best: "If you wanna be a cop? You're disqualified."
Why is that? What does that mean?
It means that we have lost the concept of the PEACE OFFICER.
Ask yourself this question: Do I *really* want to see flashing lights in my mirror?
Do I expect to encounter a Peace Officer?
Or a bully?
Posted by rounder1 on :
quote:Originally posted by The Bigfoot: Sheriff is an elected position so that may well be the case here as well. But good luck trying to get a majority to vote for you without any experience on your resume.
I know what you are saying.....
You must reside in county that is fairly large in comparison with mine.....by that I mean that you have media outlets (more than a weekly paper) within you community.
In rural areas.....you simply need to be known.....or have the right last name.
Glass,
You recently moved to redneck'a'cana.......wanna testify for me?
Posted by jordanreed on :
My older bro wanted to be a cop and applied... they didnt want him, seems he was too intelligent.You need a herd mentality..they dont want you to think for yourself.
hey big..how ya doin?..hope everything goes well for you at the doc. playin at the ribfest in ellsworth,wisc. tonite...come on over and partay!...you too tex..just a short drive from texass.. ...we need to throw a centrally located get=together...and get upside and beeg to show up...wouldnt that be fun?..maybe purl.. and lets have cow and lock and the rest of you righties can show up too!..
Posted by Newbie13 on :
hey big..how ya doin?..hope everything goes well for you at the doc. playin at the ribfest in ellsworth,wisc. tonite...come on over and partay!...you too tex..just a short drive from texass.. ...we need to throw a centrally located get=together...and get upside and beeg to show up...wouldnt that be fun?..maybe purl.. and lets have cow and lock and the rest of you righties can show up too!..
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Hey Jordan!! How bout us independents? LoL I love to throw down to some great tunes! Posted by jordanreed on :
especially the indies can show!!
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by jordanreed: My older bro wanted to be a cop and applied... they didnt want him, seems he was too intelligent.You need a herd mentality..they dont want you to think for yourself.
hey big..how ya doin?..hope everything goes well for you at the doc. playin at the ribfest in ellsworth,wisc. tonite...come on over and partay!...you too tex..just a short drive from texass.. ...we need to throw a centrally located get=together...and get upside and beeg to show up...wouldnt that be fun?..maybe purl.. and lets have cow and lock and the rest of you righties can show up too!..
What do you think would be central...Kansas City?
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
Thats my neck of the woods
Posted by raybond on :
Three advertisers drop Glenn Beck over his claim that President Obama is a ‘racist.’ Last week, Fox News host Glenn Beck called President Obama a “racist” with a “a deep-seated hatred for white people.” In response, ColorOfChange called on its members to tell Beck’s advertisers to drop his show over his race-baiting. ColorOfChange announced today that three advertisers have said that they are dropping Beck:
Three companies who run ads during Glenn Beck — NexisLexis-owned Lawyers.com, Procter & Gamble and Progressive Insurance — today distanced themselves from Beck. LexisNexis has pulled its advertising from Beck and says it has no plans to advertise on the program in the future. Both Procter & Gamble and Progressive Insurance called the Beck advertising placements an error that they would correct.
The decision by the three companies comes as over 45,000 ColorofChange.org members call on advertisers to pull their ads from Glenn Beck after the controversial news host called President Obama a “racist” who “has a deep-seated hatred for white people” on “Fox & Friends” last week.
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Posted by raybond on :
Beck Jokes About ‘Military Tribunals For All Those Currently Serving In Washington’ On his radio show today, Fox News host Glenn Beck interviewed Kentucky Senate candidate Rand Paul, the son of Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), gauging how he fit his “checklist of things” that he wants in a politician. After asking Paul about abortion and health care, Beck asked with a laugh, “What do you think about military tribunals for all those currently serving in Washington?”:
BECK: What do you think about — I’m just going down the checklist of things that I want in a politician. What do you think about military tribunals for all those currently serving in Washington [laughing].
PAUL: You got me there. You know, the other thing we could do for healthcare is I think instead of having their great health care plan they all should have to go to the VA.
BECK: I think so, too. Seriously, about the military tribunals. Look, the reason why I asked that question — I’m not asking it seriously yet — what I would like to know is how do you propose to stay uncorrupted?
Continuing his penchant for doomsday fearmongering, Beck posited that the Obama administration might be “building an exoskeleton around our republic.” “They are feasting on it,” said Beck. “And when it can’t handle it anymore, they overwhelm that system, the exoskeleton will kick in and we’ll have a new transformative moment here in America.” Paul then took Beck’s paranoia up a notch by comparing the present moment to the rise of Hitler:
PAUL: I don’t need the job. I want to do it for a period of time because I’m worried about our country. I’m worried about the deficit and what it will do. I’m also, ultimately I’m not a doomsday sayer, but I worry about in Germany, in 1923 when they destroyed their currency out of that arose a Hitler. And I think when you have chaos, if you have economic chaos, you end up getting things that you don’t want sometimes, you know? And we have to be very careful that we don’t rewrite our Constitution or throw it out completely and we don’t get some kind of strong leader that’s going to help us or keep us from ourselves. And I think that happens in times of chaos. And I think we’re in danger of that with the level of deficit we have now.
Beck agreed, but thought that he didn’t go far enough. “I think we are in more than just danger of that. I think that is the road we’re on, if we’re not careful,” said Beck. “We’re headed towards — we’re repeating the Weimar republic almost to a T.” Listen here:
Posted by raybond on :
Geico pulls its ads from Glenn Beck’s Fox News show. Fox News host Glenn Beck has been under fire in recent weeks for his comments that President Obama is a “racist” with “a deep-seated hatred for white people.” Since ColorOfChange called on its members to urge Beck’s advertisers to drop his show, three advertisers have pulled out. Today, ColorOfChange announced that Geico Insurance is joining them:
“On Tuesday, August 4, GEICO instructed its ad buying service to redistribute its inventory of rotational spots on FOX-TV to their other network programs, exclusive of the Glenn Beck program,” said a spokesperson for GEICO Corporate Communications in an email to ColorOfChange.org. “As of August 4, GEICO no longer runs any paid advertising spots during Mr. Beck’s program.“
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
quote:Originally posted by raybond: Geico pulls its ads from Glenn Beck’s Fox News show. Fox News host Glenn Beck has been under fire in recent weeks for his comments that President Obama is a “racist” with “a deep-seated hatred for white people.” Since ColorOfChange called on its members to urge Beck’s advertisers to drop his show, three advertisers have pulled out. Today, ColorOfChange announced that Geico Insurance is joining them:
“On Tuesday, August 4, GEICO instructed its ad buying service to redistribute its inventory of rotational spots on FOX-TV to their other network programs, exclusive of the Glenn Beck program,” said a spokesperson for GEICO Corporate Communications in an email to ColorOfChange.org. “As of August 4, GEICO no longer runs any paid advertising spots during Mr. Beck’s program.“
No difference between Beck and Olberman. Only difference is one loves Obama and one doesnt. If I Wanted to waste the time im sure I could do research and pull up a bunch of lies, misleads, and just plain ol hot air off transcripts from MSNBC.
Posted by raybond on :
Don't have to waste time your is a waste. Any way we only just begun
Posted by glassman on :
i see Glen is equating Obama with Hitler on his show today. somehow he's trying to tie health care reform into eugenics and the holocaust.
glen is one sick puppy. he twists this stuff up so tight i am beginning to beleive that he beleive his own bullchit.
sadly it's fairly obvious there's alot of people out there that don't think enough for themselves and beleive it too...
i predict that Beck will lose even more sponsors in the near future....
i got one question. how does somebody on Medicare have the nerve to stand up in public and demand the govt stay out of Health Care?
these people must all be alzheiemers patients.
Posted by raybond on :
These right wing rallies and shout downs that are being staged will get violient soon saw one on you tube that was on illegals and the right startesd yelling go back and it was not long before they started yelling violient threats.
I guess legal process is something they want to do away with.
Posted by raybond on :
Glassman, you have to remember Beck is an ex drunk most likley killed off to many brain cells.
I think he muight be hitting the bottle again
Posted by raybond on :
New Hampshire right-wing protestor suggests sending ‘illegals’ home with a ‘bullet in their head.’ The New Hampshire Republican Volunteer Coalition urged its members to make their voices heard today in Portsmouth, NH outside of a high school where President Obama was discussing health care reform. Sure enough, right-wing protesters came out not just in protest of health care, but also furiously offering the suggestion that undocumented immigrants should be sent back to their home countries with “a bullet in their head.”
“Why are we bankrupting this country for 21 million illegals who should be sent on the first bus one way back from wherever they come from. We don’t need illegals. Send them home once. Send them home with a bullet in their head the second time. Read what Jefferson said about the Tree of Liberty — it’s coming baby.” Right-wing protesters have been inspiring each other by referencing this 1787 quote by Thomas Jefferson: “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” One Portsmouth protester also held a sign which read “It Is Time To Water The Tree Of Liberty.” Comments 92 SharePermalink
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: i see Glen is equating Obama with Hitler on his show today. somehow he's trying to tie health care reform into eugenics and the holocaust.
glen is one sick puppy. he twists this stuff up so tight i am beginning to beleive that he beleive his own bullchit.
sadly it's fairly obvious there's alot of people out there that don't think enough for themselves and beleive it too...
i predict that Beck will lose even more sponsors in the near future....
i got one question. how does somebody on Medicare have the nerve to stand up in public and demand the govt stay out of Health Care?
Beck declares victory: Cash for Clunkers website changes terms of use
No surprise that they changed it. The language about your computer becoming government property once you log onto the site went way over the line into Orwellville.....
Haven't been able to find what they changed it to though.
Posted by SeekingFreedom on :
quote:i predict that Beck will lose even more sponsors in the near future....
That's entirely possible. If said companies think that they will lose more money having ads on his program than they will gain they should pull them. But playing Devil's Advocate, they shouldn't be surprised by these (and other) comments unless they didn't know who his target audience was when they took out the spots in the first place.
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: I'd like to know if this is true:
or more appropriately listened to it while i worked.
that website was contracted to CITI, it was not written by a govt official:
Monday, August 10, 2009 No Comments Citigroup’s “Cash for Clunkers” Contract Worth $7.7 Million
by Elana Schor on August 10, 2009
The U.S. DOT never responded to Streetsbl og Capitol Hill's request for a copy of the contract that Citigroup -- which remains one-third-owned by the government after taking a $45 billion bailout -- received to process car dealer claims under the "cash for clunkers" program. But Dow Jones did pry loose one key detail on Friday, reporting that the deal is worth "an estimated" $7.7 milli
rupert seems to like shock news, but glen is stepping over the edge nearly every show.
Posted by SeekingFreedom on :
So, the Gov allowed CITI to create binding contractual user agreements without knowing anything about it. No 'final approval' needed for the finished product?
Wow! That's so much more reassuring.
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by SeekingFreedom: So, the Gov allowed CITI to create binding contractual user agreements without knowing anything about it. No 'final approval' needed for the finished product?
Wow! That's so much more reassuring.
i'm not here to reassure anybody. just trying to cut thru the paranoid BS.
the govt is SUPPOSED to contract to the lowest bidder, that always leaves some things to be desired.
people like beck and limbugger know what they are doing.
the boilerplate that was put on there was most likely designed to detect fraud, which we all know will happen, and hackers.
the right to life movement doesn't condone murdering health care professionals does it? but they create the murderers anyway with the rhetoric.
the paranoia in this country seems to be getting worse and worse, and i am actually interested in conspiracy theories... of course your not paranoid if they really are out to get you(r money) right?
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...we need to throw a centrally located get=together...and get upside and beeg to show up...wouldnt that be fun?..maybe purl.. and lets have cow and lock and the rest of you righties can show up too!..