Adding a tax to your retirement is simply another way of saying to
the American people, you're so darn stupid that we're going to keep doing
this until we drain every cent from you. That's what the Speaker of the
House is saying. Read below:
Nancy Pelosi wants a Windfall Tax on Retirement Income.
In other words tax what you have made by investing toward your
retirement.
This woman is a nut case! You aren't going to believe this.
Madam speaker Nancy Pelosi wants to put a Windfall Tax on all stock
market profits, including Retirement fund, 401K and Mutual Funds! Alas ,
it is true - all to help the 12 Million Illegal Immigrants and other
unemployed Minorities!
This woman is frightening. She quotes...
'We need to work toward the goal of equalizing income (didn't Marx
say something like this?), in our country and at the same time limiting
the amount the rich can invest.' (I am not rich, are you?)
When asked how these new tax dollars would be spent, she replied:
'We need to raise the standard of living of our poor, unemployed and
minorities. For example, we have an estimated 12 million illegal
immigrants in our country who need our help along with millions of
unemployed minorities. Stock market windfall profits taxes could go a long
way to guarantee these people the standard of living they would like to
have as 'Americans'.'
Read that quote again and again and let it sink in. Lower your
retirement income, and give it to others who have not worked for it as you
Posted by glassman on :
my dad told me years ago that i needed a 401K.
i told himno, i'll pay the taxes as i go, cuz they'll be taxing it by the time i get old enough to draw on it anyway.
i'm not clear on how you impeach somebody unless they've committed a crime tho..
we had plenty of reasons to impeach a few others recently and didn't...
i tend to prefer more direct quotes that what you posted surf, that sounds kindof like a mishmash pasted together to make something up.
Posted by a surfer on :
Yea it was mish mashy....LOL
The impeachment part was a slight dramatization too, but the point remains the same.
Stop the madness.
Posted by retiredat49 on :
Problem is...the madness is the "norm" in Washington
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
I like how we use tax money to pay for her staffers that dont give her reports on how meetings went. Well, according to her they didnt brief her.
She's a damn liar and all of you know it. How couldn't she know? She's one of the top politico in Congress. There's whispers in the chambers and the hallways of Washington. I can't even imagine the kinds of conversations that go on behind closed doors in either party. Does that Patriot Act include Congress?
Posted by Pagan on :
quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: I like how we use tax money to pay for her staffers that dont give her reports on how meetings went. Well, according to her they didnt brief her.
She's a damn liar and all of you know it. How couldn't she know? She's one of the top politico in Congress. There's whispers in the chambers and the hallways of Washington. I can't even imagine the kinds of conversations that go on behind closed doors in either party. Does that Patriot Act include Congress?
Did Bush Jr lie? Hell yes!! Did Cheney lie? Thats all he does!!
I don't hear you mooing about that. Why not MooCow? Why not point out some of those lies from your idols that caused the death of sooooo many soldiers? Are you that presed for time or something? Just curious.
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
Pagan, I never said they didnt lie. They DID. I'll moo about whoever if they are ate up. What's the point about mooing for has beens when this is right now?
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
I'd be more than happy to see her go. But we either gotta find a 100grand in her freezer or put major pressure on California's 8th to vote her out in 2010. Have to put somebody better than Cindy Sheehan against her.
Posted by Machiavelli on :
quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: Pagan, I never said they didnt lie. They DID. I'll moo about whoever if they are ate up. What's the point about mooing for has beens when this is right now?
You should of been Mooing in the first place when the has beens were in power and caused this train wreck to our economy that is the point... stop Mooing....
Posted by Machiavelli on :
quote:Originally posted by The Bigfoot: I'd be more than happy to see her go. But we either gotta find a 100grand in her freezer or put major pressure on California's 8th to vote her out in 2010. Have to put somebody better than Cindy Sheehan against her.
Yah, me don't care too much for Pelosi and I'm a Lefty... I do not even know how she got that high in power over others but anyways hopefully that will be fixed someday because she does the Left alot of damage imo...
Posted by retiredat49 on :
Pelosi got that much power because she IS the left...and the left is just as f*ucked up as the right...
Posted by Machiavelli on :
you know what i mean... your statement makes no sense because right or left.. they both have moderates, conservatives and extreme...
so i'll explain it to you again... how did she get up so high the ladder in the Dem party and/or chosen to be Speaker of the House over others? Because she is a woman? or some other reason... what is the protocal for moving up the ladder to become House Speaker... and what are her qualifications over other Dems that she won out? ..
Posted by glassman on :
these stop Mooing.... requests are off target IMO guys.
why? because the two party system is how we maintain a balanced political system.
IMO! we need to be able address the concerns in a logical way. cash provide a forum for that and accusing him of mooing is just argumentum ad hominem
the GOP is in worse shape today than the Dems were in 95 and nobody really wants a one party system.
the one party system is the real reason we hate communism and dictatorships.
to think that we US citizens are better than everybody else and can live well in a one party system is delusional. we are just as subject to the various human flaws as anybody else.
Posted by Pagan on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: these stop Mooing.... requests are off target IMO guys.
why? because the two party system is how we maintain a balanced political system.
IMO! we need to be able address the concerns in a logical way. cash provide a forum for that and accusing him of mooing is just argumentum ad hominem
the GOP is in worse shape today than the Dems were in 95 and nobody really wants a one party system.
the one party system is the real reason we hate communism and dictatorships.
to think that we US citizens are better than everybody else and can live well in a one party system is delusional. we are just as subject to the various human flaws as anybody else.
IMO, I think you need to stop coddling MooCow. He is a man, I assume, and can speak for himself. There was a previous poster who mentioned something of the like to you, and I just blew that off. Maybe he was on to something with that statement.
You and I have gotten along for years, and that will continue of course....just think you should let him speak for himself. There is not any name calling or vicious attacks IMO. Just comments by posters. Coming to the rescue of a individual poster constantly is a bit biased, IMO.
You should treat all poster's equally as a Mod IMO. Just food for thought Glassy.
Posted by glassman on :
this isn't about individual posters, it wasn't before,
you know i called pms names.
my point about ccm is that he is bringing topics to the table and is opening the discussions, whereas PMS just took potshots ate everybody and everything..
all i am asking is that we not attack posters who are no in the habit of attacking others. ccm is not in the habit of attacking other posters.
pms called us names in almost every post, i don't see cah doing that and that's why i make the point in response to his posts only.
does that make sense?
i'm not coddling him i'm hoping we can be more civil. Obama's comedy routine was a perfect example of how we need to make politics more civil in general. this whole attack the politician as a person thing needs to be dumped and we need to discuss real issues. as for CCM? i remeber when he was really funny. i'm looking for that side of him again
mach and i get on each other and at rare times we call each other names or get rude so i'm not trying to be overmoral or anything like that.
mach and i prolly agree on more things than we disagree on but we find stuff to argue about- it's fun.
i recently saw anne coulter on fox call herself a comedian, but she never ever makes me laugh. maybe i just don't get it? if so i am at fault, but my grandparents thought rush limbugger was funny when they were alive and i didn't get that either. it wasn't worth arguing withthem ove rit but i did let 'em know how i felt.
as for the mod thing?
you will not find that i have used the powers of deletion just made personal requests.
the only reason i made a point of not spreading my mod staus was that i noticed when i first came here that mods would get treated different by toher posters and i never wanted people to buy a stock because a mod posted it. since i don't post picks that doesn't matter now, but it still might make people respond differently to me than others.
i am pretty sure that CCM didn't know i was mod until just now.
Posted by Pagan on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: this isn't about individual posters, it wasn't before,
you know i called pms names.
my point about ccm is that he is bringing topics to the table and is opening the discussions, whereas PMS just took potshots ate everybody and everything..
all i am asking is that we not attack posters who are no in the habit of attacking others. ccm is not in the habit of attacking other posters.
pms called us names in almost every post, i don't see cah doing that and that's why i make the point in response to his posts only.
does that make sense?
i'm not coddling him i'm hoping we can be more civil. Obama's comedy routine was a perfect example of how we need to make politics more civil in general. this whole attack the politician as a person thing needs to be dumped and we need to discuss real issues. as for CCM? i remeber when he was really funny. i'm looking for that side of him again
mach and i get on each other and at rare times we call each other names or get rude so i'm not trying to be overmoral or anything like that.
mach and i prolly agree on more things than we disagree on but we find stuff to argue about- it's fun.
i recently saw anne coulter on fox call herself a comedian, but she never ever makes me laugh. maybe i just don't get it? if so i am at fault, but my grandparents thought rush limbugger was funny when they were alive and i didn't get that either. it wasn't worth arguing withthem ove rit but i did let 'em know how i felt.
Fair enuff. Just appeared he was getting extra support from you. Won't mention it again. Btw, I am not a fan of Pelosi either FWIW!
PS: Your Mod status is known, so I think your thoughts about being treated differently are unfounded. I'll still argue with you at the drop of a hat if I disagree with your thoughts. As most others still do as well.
PSS: you do a very good job Modding Glass. Was never my intention to suggest otherwise. Except for the 1 point I addressed to you. Keep up the good work.
Posted by glassman on :
i didn't really want to do it. but somebody had to .
when CMKX and a few others were being sold by the billions i really wanted to delete whole threads.
but freedom of speech sortof overrules that cuz i cannot couldnot know for sure that people would lose money...
CCM was long CMKX and i used go titnot he thread and raise bloody heck witht he big pumpers as just another poster..
CCM being long used to make up rhymes and poems in response to my haranguing...
i really wanted to just delete those threads in the worst way....
who was that "what would Jesus do debbie girl" who claimed she had hundreds of millions of shares and put her whole family in it and was going to open an orphanage with the killing she was going to make? i really wanted to delete and ban her.. but tha's jes people being people...
and? i can tell you personally that i bought stock based on mods posts. and i made money cuz i never stayed long.. i am sure most people were doing it on Mods recomendations.
Posted by retiredat49 on :
Pagan...IMO I think you need to stop coddling Glass...
Posted by Pagan on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: i didn't really want to do it. but somebody had to .
when CMKX and a few others were being sold by the billions i really wanted to delete whole threads.
but freedom of speech sortof overrules that cuz i cannot couldnot know for sure that people would lose money...
CCM was long CMKX and i used go titnot he thread and raise bloody heck witht he big pumpers as just another poster..
CCM being long used to make up rhymes and poems in response to my haranguing...
i really wanted to just delete those threads in the worst way....
who was that "what would Jesus do debbie girl" who claimed she had hundreds of millions of shares and put her whole family in it and was going to open an orphanage with the killing she was going to make? i really wanted to delete and ban her.. but tha's jes people being people...
and? i can tell you personally that i bought stock based on mods posts. and i made money cuz i never stayed long.. i am sure most people were doing it on Mods recomendations.
Ok, I may sound uneducated here...but...wtf is a "titnot"? Just sounds pretty damn painful and not something I'd want to have happen to me. Or is that a euphemism for CMKX?
Posted by Pagan on :
quote:Originally posted by retiredat49: Pagan...IMO I think you need to stop coddling Glass...
Hahaha....true enuff I guess. Good post!
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
From another board, and rather humerous with a taste of truth.
"American politics is obviously a joke because you find its best coverage on the Comedy Channel."
Posted by glassman on :
and the sad truth is that we allow ourselves to be robbed by these azzwipes in DC while they divert our attention to issues like whether pelosi was briefed or not.
i could careless if she was breifed, she was in the minority and would have been politically assasinated for speaking out in 2003 even by me even tho i was/am against torture, you cannot release classified data just because you feel like it. which is another crime Dubya and Cheney apparently did.. they declassified data for political reasons (in specific about valerie plame)
i would not vote for her, but it's not my choice to vote for or against her. she earned her position the same way all politicians do.
Posted by Machiavelli on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman:
mach and i get on each other and at rare times we call each other names or get rude so i'm not trying to be overmoral or anything like that.
mach and i prolly agree on more things than we disagree on but we find stuff to argue about- it's fun.
Yes you do meanie...
And Pagan is right, you should let Mooman reply. I wouldn't call what we do as attacks. Just disagreeing with him on his posts. He's a big boy Cow who can take care of himself... You never jump on people when I'm attacked and i reall do get attacked compared to Mooman but you know I can stand up for myself... your pretty much saying he can't and has to be defended like a child...
Posted by raybond on :
I argree Just scalp repulicans don't call them names its rude
Posted by Machiavelli on :
quote:Originally posted by Pagan: There was a previous poster who mentioned something of the like to you, and I just blew that off. Maybe he was on to something with that statement.
Twas me... Posted by CashCowMoo on :
quote:Originally posted by Machiavelli:
quote:Originally posted by glassman:
mach and i get on each other and at rare times we call each other names or get rude so i'm not trying to be overmoral or anything like that.
mach and i prolly agree on more things than we disagree on but we find stuff to argue about- it's fun.
Yes you do meanie...
And Pagan is right, you should let Mooman reply. I wouldn't call what we do as attacks. Just disagreeing with him on his posts. He's a big boy Cow who can take care of himself... You never jump on people when I'm attacked and i reall do get attacked compared to Mooman but you know I can stand up for myself... your pretty much saying he can't and has to be defended like a child...
Just because me and glass see eye to eye on a few things doesnt mean it is any different than you and jordan, pagan, etc
Posted by Machiavelli on :
quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: Just because me and glass see eye to eye on a few things doesnt mean it is any different than you and jordan, pagan, etc
Has nothing with seeing eye to eye.. Differences of opinion are a given.. it has to do that I do not jump on people if they jump Jordan,Pagan,BF etc. they are big boys who can answer for themselves... but lately Glass has been on the attack on anyone who differs with you only...
Posted by glassman on :
Glass has been on the attack on anyone who differs with you only...
attack? LOL..
here's the post
these stop Mooing.... requests are off target IMO guys.
you call that an attack?
you know much better than that.
i 'splained myself you must've missed it.
i haven't seen CCM attack anybody.
what i have seen is people attack him for posting things they don't agree with. that is instead of attacking the things.. argumentum ad hominem is an admission of defeat in any debate..
rush limbugger and annie coulter and buds make their living off it. An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument to the man", "argument against the man") consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the source making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim. why would you want to emulate them?
as for the person who was attacking him to begin with? that person attacked everybody and i was asked by someone else to try to tone things down, so i did- with two people in specific- it seems to have worked cuz neither one posts here anymore, and to my knowledge neither was banned. they decided to stop posting rather than act civil
when i "attack" people? everybody knows it.
asking people to be more civil is not an attack in my book.
Posted by Machiavelli on :
quote:Originally posted by Pagan: IMO, I think you need to stop coddling MooCow. He is a man, I assume, and can speak for himself. There was a previous poster who mentioned something of the like to you, and I just blew that off. Maybe he was on to something with that statement.
You and I have gotten along for years, and that will continue of course....just think you should let him speak for himself. There is not any name calling or vicious attacks IMO. Just comments by posters. Coming to the rescue of a individual poster constantly is a bit biased, IMO.
You should treat all poster's equally as a Mod IMO. Just food for thought Glassy.
Point is Glass, Cow is a big boy who can answer for himself. He doesn't need babying... everytime you come 2 his rescue he just watches on the sidelines.. expecting you to argue for him... If Cow can't take the heat then he shouldn't post in the first place and you should be neutral and let him answer first before jumping in...
As for the two previous posters you mentioned who weren't civil... let's just say you have been on the attack with me lately and if you haven't noticed sometimes you haven't been civil yourself... and if I haven't been civil myself it's usually reactive..
btw Pagan was right in his post i quoted...
Posted by glassman on :
you come 2 his rescue he just watches on the sideline
yawn, you sound like you are whinig now.
this is why i din't want to be known as a mod.
i didn't argue for him, i've taken an opposition to his posts more often than not, just as i do with you, except i didn't call him names, and i don't call you names until you become unreasonable like you are now. you can go back and reread the posts where i've gotten on your case to see why, i responded to things in specific like i always do. you have a habit attacking the poster an i'll be just telling you when you do from now on so you can understand why things get hot.
i was riding everybody who was calling names continuously.
has it occurred to you that there's alot of people who do not wish others to call each on thr names?
Posted by jordanreed on :
It does get heated in here, at times, and we tend to attack the messenger instead of the message..I'm certainly guilty of that and I apoligize. sometimes its easier than trying to argue a point. no excuses here,tho...it wont happen again.
........ Posted by Machiavelli on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: has it occurred to you that there's alot of people who do not wish others to call each on thr names?
Has it ever occurred to you that saying "Stop Mooing" to CCM is making a play on his Username as well as telling to at least back up what he says instead of throwing accusations like he did with Veteran's Day...
Anyways can't call someone a Cow if he already is one by his name...
And I'll say it again if he posts something that is obviously wrong then he better be prepared for posts that will point it out... So both you and him stop being Jerry Falwell and getting your feelings hurt (Larry Flynt case)and be men not mice... you post and someone replies then you reply back... no need for someone to protect him... he's a big boy...
Stop Mooing is not calling a name Glass so get over your high mightiness... liked you better when you weren't a Mod...
Posted by glassman on :
Stop Mooing is not calling a name Glass so get over your high mightiness... liked you better when you weren't a Mod...
LOL. i've been a Mod for five years here next month Mach...
get the chip off your shoulder.
you just liked me better when you thought i was a Democrat.
it was not my idea to try to get people to act more civil. i was responding to requests. mods can just delete posts i didn't do that. i was was not asking as a mod, i was asking as one poster to another poster.
i personally could care less how badly people behave as long as they aren't posting porn or threats. that's the basic decision, what is porn and what is a threat. lies are covered under freedom of speech. (unfortunately)
the thing is? you can go to islum for abusive posting and moderating. sooner or later CCM would start being rude back and it just accelerates from there. i tend to respond to others in kind all the time, always have.
Posted by Lockman on :
quote:Originally posted by Pagan:
quote:Originally posted by glassman: these stop Mooing.... requests are off target IMO guys.
why? because the two party system is how we maintain a balanced political system.
IMO! we need to be able address the concerns in a logical way. cash provide a forum for that and accusing him of mooing is just argumentum ad hominem
the GOP is in worse shape today than the Dems were in 95 and nobody really wants a one party system.
the one party system is the real reason we hate communism and dictatorships.
to think that we US citizens are better than everybody else and can live well in a one party system is delusional. we are just as subject to the various human flaws as anybody else.
IMO, I think you need to stop coddling MooCow. He is a man, I assume, and can speak for himself. There was a previous poster who mentioned something of the like to you, and I just blew that off. Maybe he was on to something with that statement.
You and I have gotten along for years, and that will continue of course....just think you should let him speak for himself. There is not any name calling or vicious attacks IMO. Just comments by posters. Coming to the rescue of a individual poster constantly is a bit biased, IMO.
You should treat all poster's equally as a Mod IMO. Just food for thought Glassy.
Interesting how Pagan will go to any length to protect his beloved Democrat party. Bush did it so we should just let it keep on happening. You my friend are the poster with no credability.
Posted by Lockman on :
● Vice President Biden is on a trip to Bosnia, Serbia, and Kosovo. The White House is calling it "Operation Keep Biden Away From a Microphone."
● He goes to Antarctica next.
Posted by glassman on :
i think Biden is the most honest politician in the US.
the fact that the media makes him into a buffoon just shows that the US is not interested in the truth at all(so does the popularity of limbugger and fox "news") .
i would have chosen him over Obama even tho i dsiagree with alot of his positions (like on gun control) just because he is bluntly honest.
Obama is not experienced enought o be judged on his honesty yet.
by the time we find out? he'll either be up for re-election or retiring from politics on his second term.
when Biden said Obama was "clean" ? he meant it politically- there was no political dirt on Obama. the media made it out to sound like something else stupid. and people "went along" with that joke like they are a bunch of sheep.
Posted by Lockman on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: i think Biden is the most honest politician in the US.
the fact that the media makes him into a buffoon just shows that the US is not interested in the truth.
i would have chosen him over Obama even tho i dsiagree with alot of his positions (like on gun control) just because he is bluntly honest.
Obama is not experienced enought o be judged on his honesty yet.
by the time we find out? he'll either be up for re-election or retiring from politics on his second term.
when Biden said Obama was "clean" ? he meant it politically- there was no political dirt on Obama. the media made it out to sound like something else stupid. and people "went along" with that joke like they are a bunch of sheep.
Ya sometimes Biden doesn't sound like a politician. But he's causing some distractions for Obama and they'll be hiding him in a basement soon. lol
Posted by Machiavelli on :
quote:Originally posted by Lockman: ● Vice President Biden is on a trip to Bosnia, Serbia, and Kosovo. The White House is calling it "Operation Keep Biden Away From a Microphone."
● He goes to Antarctica next.
See that is somewhat funny... but anyways I think Biden is a good politician just that he puts his foot in his mouth sometimes.
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
What a mess, this administration is already riddled with controversy.
Obama, the grand charlatan is being a political huckster while his top party "leaders" are lying...and getting caught lying. (Pelosi)
Can you imagine what they would say if ACORN was a Bush related company?
Posted by glassman on :
Can you imagine what they would say if ACORN was a Bush related company?
don't be silly, everybody knows ACORNS come from TREES Posted by Machiavelli on :
quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: What a mess, this administration is already riddled with controversy.
Tell me what administration hasn't had controversy throughout the U.S.'s history? Also at least Obama is taking action domestically more then outside of our borders unlike his predecessor.
Stop mooing.
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
quote:Originally posted by Machiavelli:
quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: What a mess, this administration is already riddled with controversy.
Tell me what administration hasn't had controversy throughout the U.S.'s history? Also at least Obama is taking action domestically more then outside of our borders unlike his predecessor.
Stop mooing.
Oh hes taking domestic action? Well how about that big freaking border to our south? Anyone think he has a plan besides blanket amnesty for illegal aliens?
Posted by Machiavelli on :
quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: Oh hes taking domestic action? Well how about that big freaking border to our south? Anyone think he has a plan besides blanket amnesty for illegal aliens?
People are impatient lol I remember when Retired or someone else said he hasn't done anything about keeping his promise on healthcare reform. Guess what, that is now the next agenda along with the Credit Card one... he has only been in office since January. He's done more in his short time then Bush has in his 8 years imo.
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
Well, he is taking on a massive undertaking. Baby boomers going to need all that health care soon...times are coming for a massive influx of seniors! seniors = constant health care
I guess something has to be done, but I dont know for sure because I've never had a problem with health care before.
Posted by Machiavelli on :
Yes, it is a massive undertaking but a overdue one.
As for problems with our own healthcare Cow, someday we will have problems as we age and it would be nice to know that we won't have problems getting healthcare.
Posted by rounder1 on :
I hope someone reads this......
What the hell is a mod?
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
a moderator?
Posted by rounder1 on :
so he is the man....huh.
Posted by glassman on :
ain't no big deal. if somebeody reports a post? you have to decide if they have a valid complaint. delete pictures that you wouldn't want your 10 year old to see, etc.
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