I just paid $8.05 for a pack of Marlboros. Time to quit I believe since New York is taxing the hell of of my disgusting but relaxing habit.
Posted by glassman on :
i haven't had one since feb 14 at 11:45PM Posted by Relentless. on :
Quit two years ago... Try the nicorette gum Now I'm addicted to that. The cinnamon surge is down right tasty.
Posted by Pagan on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: i haven't had one since feb 14 at 11:45PM
Was that a V_day agreement with the wife to quit? Odd day to choose to quit otherwise. Just curious.
Posted by glassman on :
nope, i just happened to run out of smokes at bedtime and never went out to get more...
i have a patch on each carotid and pop the lozenges one after another... the gum doesn't mix well with the lozenges so i don't go thru as much of that ...
quitting is easy i've done it half a dozen of times Posted by Pagan on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: nope, i just happened to run out of smokes at bedtime and never went out to get more...
i have a patch on each carotid and pop the lozenges one after another... the gum doesn't mix well with the lozenges so i don't go thru as much of that ...
quitting is easy i've done it half a dozen of times
Holy crap! Your nicotine intake is probably higher now than when you were actually smoking! LOL!!
PS: nobody likes a quitter glass Posted by glassman on :
i was joking about all the patches...
i am down to one 2 MG per day and about 6 2mg lozenges...
i quit because i can see 50 coming real fast...
my grandads both waited till the yhad heart attacks to quit and they were both 50.... they did make it to their 80's tho...
if my dad had a heart attack? he'd kept it a secret, but he smoked till he died in an accident in his late 60's...
i have quit for years at a time once and months at a time four times... this time i hope is th elast...
here in MS? Marlboros are 3$ a pack still.. they may raise the tax by 60cents this year, but it's still not sure...
Posted by jordanreed on :
i smoke the backwoods cigars..8 to a pack..about a buck a piece..one pack usually lasts about 18 holes Posted by T e x on :
roll ur own still economical
Posted by Relentless. on :
I thought Haley was talking about at least a buck increase? Haven't heard yet if it's been made law yet. Kinda figuring the guy who wanted to make it illegal for restaurants to serve fat people would go for a ciggy tax.
Posted by Highwaychild on :
Trying to quit is hard to do. But at $8.05 for a pack of Marlboro's it makes it a little easier. For $6.00 and a self addressed envelope I can send you a pack...lol
Posted by Robot on :
Just a friendly FYI Glass, and to any one else, don't be involved in strenuous activities or in above average temperature conditions while on the patch. It can lead to a nicotine overdose. I read a memo in a fire hall and the death of one of their member's was caused by wearing the patch on the job.
Glad to here you quit.
Posted by retiredat49 on :
I quit 2 years ago (when I turned 50) but I too am now addicted to the gum...I chew about 4 to 5 pieces of 2mg a day. That is ONE addictive drug
I have quit 4 or 5 times...once for over a year...
After 2 years...I still miss the hell out of smoking when I work.
Marlboro's are $5.50 a pack up here...
Posted by Relentless. on :
Oh another thing about the patch is wearing it to bed... The dreams are ... vivid. The box's warning is very real.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Relentless.: Oh another thing about the patch is wearing it to bed... The dreams are ... vivid. The box's warning is very real.
OK, you can stop there...
the stuff you see in daylight is scary enough
Posted by retiredat49 on :
Thinkin now I'll switch to the patch...
Posted by Highwaychild on :
The more people that quit, the more they'll go up. Then soon, we'll be Bailing out Philip Morris.
Posted by jgrecoconstr on :
I have quit(tried) a few times, once for a year. Just recently did the pill but man they killed my stomach, the day I stopped taking the pills was like a 12 hour acid trip that was kinda cool........ the memories !!! I just bought a carton of fake cigarettesm same paper, same filter,same weight you just can't light it. I'm going to buy some patches Monday and suck on my fake smokes and hopefully be able to get over the hump on this.
Posted by Robot on :
I quit a long time ago but still remember how many pens and pencils I chewed up before I switched to gum.
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
Quote Relentless:
"Oh another thing about the patch is wearing it to bed... The dreams are ... vivid. The box's warning is very real."
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Depends what kind of dreams.
At sixty you might want to increase those patches. Posted by jgrecoconstr on :
You ever bit your tongue chewing gum when you tried to quit smoking. jeeezzzz 's that hurts
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
The sad part is that the ones that are most affected by these hugh taxes on cigarettes, are the ones that can not afford it the most. (in general)
Servicemen and women tend to smoke more, at least in the past they did.
Many get started in the service.
A long time ago cigarettes use to be free in certain areas, when in the service.
If my mother at 90 can break the habit, so can you guys.
Of course my siblings would not give her anymore after she broke her hip, she had no way to get them unless i smuggle them in.
I would have been in big trouble if i had brought them in. Although that would be nothing new.
She was kind of burning the carpet up a tad.
Posted by a surfer on :
Quit in Aug. 07
Used Chantix.
The dreams I had with that scared me from ever smoking again.
No, actually it worked unbelievably well and took the craving and desire away within seconds after the thought of smoking entered my head.
I feel better now than I did when I smoked and thats what matters.
Posted by CJim on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: nope, i just happened to run out of smokes at bedtime and never went out to get more...
i have a patch on each carotid and pop the lozenges one after another... the gum doesn't mix well with the lozenges so i don't go thru as much of that ...
quitting is easy i've done it half a dozen of times
Smoked for 22 years, tried the patch but I can never keep it lit, Tried hypnosis but I think he loaded the wrong program, I have lost a ton of weight since that day. Did the gum till two of my kids got ahold of it, they came out of the shed after running out and started chewing on my butts in the ash tray. Cold turkey is probably best and I know I should....... someday.
Posted by jgrecoconstr on :
If your mom was 90 smoking was never going to do her in and she probably didn't want to quit. I hope you smuggled her in some. My uncle smoked all his life, quit when he was like 65 ended up running into the back of a dump truck a few months after and died. So what was the sense of quitting.
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
Quote Jgrecoconst:
"If your mom was 90 smoking was never going to do her in and she probably didn't want to quit. I hope you smuggled her in some. My uncle smoked all his life, quit when he was like 65 ended up running into the back of a dump truck a few months after and died. So what was the sense of quitting."
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She will be 91 in May.
I didn't smuggle any in, she was in the hospital for awhile after she broke the hip.
Did think about it though.
After seeing all the carpet burns where she had dropped her cigareetes, not sure it was a bad idea for her to stop.
The 4 weeks in the hospital got her through the worst part, she does have a little lapse of memory any how, so the rest was easy.
She has put on weight since, which for her was a good thing at 78 lbs and her health has been much better since gaining 20 pounds.
For her, quitting was not done for the hazards of smoking, other than the fire hazzard.
Funning thing is that my mom did not start smoking until she was in her mid 40's.
My brothers and sister must have driven her to smoking late in life, i know it could not have been me, i was always the good one.
Posted by CJim on :
quote:Originally posted by IWISHIHAD: Quote Jgrecoconst:
"If your mom was 90 smoking was never going to do her in and she probably didn't want to quit. I hope you smuggled her in some. My uncle smoked all his life, quit when he was like 65 ended up running into the back of a dump truck a few months after and died. So what was the sense of quitting."
Keep telling yourself that, : "goosefraava"
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She will be 91 in May.
I didn't smuggle any in, she was in the hospital for awhile after she broke the hip.
Did think about it though.
After seeing all the carpet burns where she had dropped her cigareetes, not sure it was a bad idea for her to stop.
The 4 weeks in the hospital got her through the worst part, she does have a little lapse of memory any how, so the rest was easy.
She has put on weight since, which for her was a good thing at 78 lbs and her health has been much better since gaining 20 pounds.
For her, quitting was not done for the hazards of smoking, other than the fire hazzard.
Funning thing is that my mom did not start smoking until she was in her mid 40's.
My brothers and sister must have driven her to smoking late in life, i know it could not have been me, i was always the good one.
Posted by raybond on :
I quit febuary 20th 2004 threw the damn things out the car window in the middle of the desert no stores around for at least 70 miles.
I just used pure will power and suffered wish I would have used some of the things you guys did better than that I wish I would have never started.
Now I only miss them once in a great while the urge stops and I don't think of them for months
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
I have always liked cigars.
Don't smoke them anymore because they tear my throat up.
In the past, i would smoke them about once a month. If they had not bothered my throat so much i could have easily made them a habit.
I love the smell of them.
The other night there was a homeless guy asking for change, while he was lighting up a big new cigar.
Posted by jgrecoconstr on :
I forgot about the carpet burns... so yeah it was a good thing she quit. I actually filled out an app last night for this New York Quit Line, they send you free patches. I figure I might as well get whatever their going to give me for free since I have been paying for it. That pushes my quit date off until they get here.
Posted by retiredat49 on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: Quit in Aug. 07
Used Chantix.
The dreams I had with that scared me from ever smoking again.
No, actually it worked unbelievably well and took the craving and desire away within seconds after the thought of smoking entered my head.
I feel better now than I did when I smoked and thats what matters.
I tried that Chantix...til I woke up one morning hallucinaing. I stopped using that chit immediately...reminded me of my younger years
Posted by glassman on :
chantix made me want to sleep.. i never even got to the to stop smoking part of the program...
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by Robot: Just a friendly FYI Glass, and to any one else, don't be involved in strenuous activities or in above average temperature conditions while on the patch. It can lead to a nicotine overdose. I read a memo in a fire hall and the death of one of their member's was caused by wearing the patch on the job.
Glad to here you quit.
i appreciate the advice, but this is what i do all day long:
we have all of our photos set to large format so i can't link the image direct without messing up the size of the page here, or resizing the pix which tinypics doesn't allow tha i can find
and that's the little reheat furnace... i often run the bigger one too, and they run at 2300 F... the melt furnace is at 2100 and the annealer is at 900 and i sit in the middle of that all day- lifting weights on the end of "sticks"... it's kinda like putting the practice weight on baseball bat...
i sometimes sweat the patches off and have to tape 'em on Posted by Robot on :
Not to mention the hot summer days of the south are coming.
It's great you get to do something that you love.
Posted by glassman on :
i turn the furnaces off in April or may but then the dreary work starts... polishing and grinding ugh... necessary evil tho...
Posted by Sunnyside on :
I've been using those electronic cigarettes. They seem to work pretty good. I'm down to 3 cigarettes a day from a pack.
You get the oral thing and the smoke thing (actually makes smoke) and has degrees of nicotine so you can wean off nicotine and still keep the behavior.
The behavior gets me more than the nicotine.
Chantix killed my stomach and the nausea was the only thing that kept me from smoking.
Acupuncture: didn't work Hypnosis: didn't work Patch: worked with alot of will power and then back to smoking. Gum: made me want to smoke
e-cig: working so far x3 months.
Posted by CJim on :
quote:Originally posted by Sunnyside: I've been using those electronic cigarettes. They seem to work pretty good. I'm down to 3 cigarettes a day from a pack.
You get the oral thing and the smoke thing (actually makes smoke) and has degrees of nicotine so you can wean off nicotine and still keep the behavior.
The behavior gets me more than the nicotine.
Chantix killed my stomach and the nausea was the only thing that kept me from smoking.
Acupuncture: didn't work Hypnosis: didn't work Patch: worked with alot of will power and then back to smoking. Gum: made me want to smoke
e-cig: working so far x3 months.
How do the e-cig's work with beer, or while drinking? Do they still detract form smoking or do they give enough of a dose of vitamin N so a person still doesn't want to smoke
Posted by Sunnyside on :
They work perfectly with drinking, driving, hey, you can even have a smoke at the dinner table in a restaurant. Supposedly even on an airplane.
It's not real smoke although it feels like it. It's vapor. It's created with an atomiser heating propylene glycol mixed with nicotine in the filter.
Looks just like a regular cigarette if you want it to. A bit heavier though because the white part (the cigarette) is a battery. You can have as much nicotine as you think you need. It comes in varying strengths.
All the information you may want.
Posted by glassman on :
wow, i wonder how i missed these? they don't require a script? and they don't look too expensive...
i can actually dose heavy and not have a sore throat?
cj? vitamin "N"? you misspent your youth too huh? Posted by Relentless. on :
Seems they are unreliable... I looked briefly but couldn't really tell how long a cartridge lasts as compared with a pack of "analogs".
Posted by glassman on :
now i really am jonesing... i guess i'l crunch a couple lozenges at one time Posted by jgrecoconstr on :
Ok here's a warning for ya if you ever buy the fake smokes. Never, ever,ever carry them on you when you have real ones. Everything is exactly the same except their all filter. Man. don't ever take a drag off those and I did it twice in the same day.
Posted by Pagan on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: now i really am jonesing... i guess i'l crunch a couple lozenges at one time
Haha! Wow...."joensing". I have'nt heard someone use that turn of phrase in about 20 years. Your making me feel old glass! Ya bastage!
Posted by CJim on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: wow, i wonder how i missed these? they don't require a script? and they don't look too expensive...
i can actually dose heavy and not have a sore throat?
cj? vitamin "N"? you misspent your youth too huh?
To put it lightly... Vitamin's N,A,M(or P depending on who you talk to), and S (rhymes with rooms). I don't remember some of my youth. My memory is like swiss cheese, alot of holes Posted by Sunnyside on :
They're not unreliable but they don't last forever. Cartridges don't last that long and I couldn't compare it to "analogs" but they have e-juice to refill the cartridges. The juice comes in flavors too.
Ok, it's like being a junkie. You have to make sure you have enough of everything to sustain the transfer from analogs and the batteries need to be recharged. However, if you are at your computer alot, they have a USB passthrough that stays plugged into your computer and never needs recharging. Just constant power.
It's a substitute and works to either quit cigarettes are cut down considerably. Not quite a perfect science but I find it to be a really, really good substitute.
I've actually found a guy in China (that's where they're manufactured) and its really cheap. You buy a bunch of stuff and it lasts for months. I've actually grown to prefer them.
There's a whole language developed around them too. It's weird, cool, and Glass, no more sore throat or cough or smell.
Posted by CJim on :
I just got back from walking next door to buy a pack of smokes here, $7.00. WOW, $1.45 a pack when I started. I gotta check out this e-cig thing, getting my fix without ever leaving my desk sounds to good to be true. Are you on commision sunny? Just spamming away on all the boards about e-cigs Posted by glassman on :
well, i also notice some brands are looking for distributors...
which brand do you use sunny?
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by CJim: I just got back from walking next door to buy a pack of smokes here, $7.00. WOW, $1.45 a pack when I started. I gotta check out this e-cig thing, getting my fix without ever leaving my desk sounds to good to be true. Are you on commision sunny? Just spamming away on all the boards about e-cigs
30 cents when i started... and i could buy them out of the vending machine at the gas station at the crosswalk to the Jr high school...
7 eleven was hit or miss, but the vending machine was out of site of everybody....
anybody else remember charcoal filters? i'd rather fight than switch?
Posted by Sunnyside on :
Yeah, just spamming away. That's my new gig.
Just thought I share my experience quitting (almost) cigarettes. Cigarettes here aren't that expense yet. Still under $4.00 a pack but my daughter kept complaining that she smelled like cigarettes and being able to breathe was somewhat important to me.
Since nothing else worked for me I thought I'd try 'em. So far I like it. I figure even if I cut back it's an improvement.
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by Pagan:
quote:Originally posted by glassman: now i really am jonesing... i guess i'l crunch a couple lozenges at one time
Haha! Wow...."joensing". I have'nt heard someone use that turn of phrase in about 20 years. Your making me feel old glass! Ya bastage!
you must hang out with the boring people Posted by Sunnyside on :
I don't know which brand but the model is a M401. It looks most like a cigarette and the mouthpiece is round like a regular filter. Other models have a filter like a pipe (flat). There are different brands of the 401. Someone on the e-cig board turned me onto this manufacturer in China. Now I buy my parts from some guy on ebay (also in China).
I think we're probably the same generation because I remember buying 3 packs for a dollar. I remember charcoal filters and that commercial.
I think they're all looking for distributors. If you check out the link you'll see there are quite a few online retailers. They're now in the malls but very expensive and not good reviews.
Posted by CJim on :
quote:Originally posted by Sunnyside: Yeah, just spamming away. That's my new gig.
Just thought I share my experience quitting (almost) cigarettes. Cigarettes here aren't that expense yet. Still under $4.00 a pack but my daughter kept complaining that she smelled like cigarettes and being able to breathe was somewhat important to me.
Since nothing else worked for me I thought I'd try 'em. So far I like it. I figure even if I cut back it's an improvement.
I joke Sunny, it's what I do. WHen i am being serious I think you will know, I do have more than 70 some posts, I just had some computer problems that made me create this alias. The regulars should vouch for my attitude Posted by Sunnyside on :
I'm sarcastic. Didn't take you seriously CJ.
Posted by Relentless. on :
Oh no... the name calling's about to start
Posted by Sunnyside on :
Posted by glassman on :
somebody even has a website up for sale at ebay:
buy it now 1999.00 ...
YOU ARE BIDDING ON OR BUYING THE WEBSITE SMOKINNOW.COM WHICH FEATURES DELUXE ELECTRONIC CIGARETTE KITS AND REFILLS FOR THEIR CIGARETTES AT GREAT PRICES. IF YOU PURCHASE THE WEBSITE I CAN ALSO PUT YOU INTO CONTACT WITH THE SUPPLIER WHO HAS PROVEN TO BE VERY RELIABLE, AND OFFERS A FANTASTIC PRODUCT FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND YOUR ONLINE OFFERINGS. PLEASE VISIT THE SITE TO SEE WHAT IS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE. THE SITE CURRENTLY OFFERS ONLY THE VERY BEST PRODUCTS THAT WE HAVE FOUND. THE REFILLS THAT ARE OFFERED ARE A FULL STRENGTH AND A EXTRA STRENGTH NICOTINE. MEDICAL DISCLAIMERS ARE ALREADY POSTED ON THE SITE FOR YOU. THE SITE IS FULLY OPERATIONAL AT SMOKINNOW.COM
Glass, I checked out that site. One cart does NOT equal even one pack of cigarettes. I don't know exactly how many cigarettes it compares to because I just use the liquid directly on the atomiser. I've become an e-cig junkie. I confess.
It seems that everyone who uses them finds the method that suits them best. Carts are reusable if you have the liquid. I use an empty cart and put the liquid on the atomiser. Creates more vapor.
If you're tempted to try them I suggest reading the e-cig forum. They are real addicts and have all kinds of tricks and suggestions and truthful, real information.
Posted by CJim on :
quote:Originally posted by Sunnyside: I'm sarcastic. Didn't take you seriously CJ.
Understand sunny, but still, none of the regulars vouched for me? phuc you guys then, iceholes.
Posted by retiredat49 on :
Winston's taste good like a cigarette should...
I think the charcoal filters were either Parliament's or Viceroy's...
I always preferred Marlboro's
Posted by retiredat49 on :
I'll vouch for Cotton J...he is an obnoxious old son of a *****
Posted by Sunnyside on :
Wasn't fight than switch Tarryton?
Posted by retiredat49 on :
quote:Originally posted by CJim:
quote:Originally posted by glassman:
To put it lightly... Vitamin's N,A,M(or P depending on who you talk to), and S (rhymes with rooms). I don't remember some of my youth. My memory is like swiss cheese, alot of holes
I resemble that statement
Posted by retiredat49 on :
You could be right Sunny...see previous post...
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by CJim:
quote:Originally posted by Sunnyside: I'm sarcastic. Didn't take you seriously CJ.
Understand sunny, but still, none of the regulars vouched for me? phuc you guys then, iceholes.
do we know you? you kinda remind me of some guy that went by the name of cottontail or somesuch...
Posted by Relentless. on :
Yeah no chit.. reminds me of someone... I'm just lost when they change screen names... sheesh why can't they keep just one?
Posted by glassman on :
Tareyton smokers would rather fight then switch and they were one brand that had charcoal filters...
i went hru alot ofbrands fore i settled on Marlboro Box, soft pack only if i had to....
Pall Mall filterless was the best by far, but we also called those things coffin nails...
bugler roll-yer-own ain't bad
Posted by CJim on :
quote:Originally posted by retiredat49: I'll vouch for Cotton J...he is an obnoxious old son of a *****
Obnoxious, wtf all I do is try to bring a slice of joy to y'alls pathetic little life and that makes me obnoxious. I don't need this, I can check in at home if I want to be miserable......... whew, sorry about getting all bdg on your azz there, waiting for my pizza to be delivered and I am getting light headed Posted by CJim on :
quote:Originally posted by Relentless.: Yeah no chit.. reminds me of someone... I'm just lost when they change screen names... sheesh why can't they keep just one?
Ironically, I went over to Iwhore with this name and most eveyone knew. It was like a family reunion, "hey cotton, good to see you here, cotton, what do you know today, cotton blah blah blah.)I have had this screen name for 15 years and you would be suprised at how many people "assume" that I am an old man. I have had more older ladies proposition me than I care to count. "It was the whole cotton thing" they say..... does cotton mean old, someone?
Posted by glassman on :
oldtimey is more like it:
Cotton Mather (February 12, 1663 – February 13, 1728). A.B. 1678 (Harvard College), A.M. 1681; honorary doctorate 1710 (University of Glasgow), was a socially and politically influential New England Puritan minister, prolific author, and pamphleteer. Cotton Mather was the son of influential minister Increase Mather. He is often remembered for his connection to the Salem witch trials. Posted by CJim on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: oldtimey is more like it:
Cotton Mather (February 12, 1663 – February 13, 1728). A.B. 1678 (Harvard College), A.M. 1681; honorary doctorate 1710 (University of Glasgow), was a socially and politically influential New England Puritan minister, prolific author, and pamphleteer. Cotton Mather was the son of influential minister Increase Mather. He is often remembered for his connection to the Salem witch trials.
So I should update my image perhaps, lycrajim, maybe rayonjim, heres one for those that shouldn't even consider wearing it, spandexjim, maybe even viscosejim, tough choice.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Sunnyside: Wasn't fight than switch Tarryton?
precisely...
and I know because that was the brand of my of ol' redneck, iron-assed granma...infamous during her youth in central Texas for riding a horse full-saddle, like a man instead of riding sidesaddle "like a lady."
I fell into bad company with a thug down the street when I was about 4 or 5 and began stealing her cigarettes, said Tarreytons. We'd smoke 'em out back. He was about 3 or 4 years older, so naturally I deferred to his vast experience of 8-9 years' on the planet.
We decided the name-brand cigarettes were much better than the common grapevine. So I kept stealing, lol, prolly 5 to 6 a week.
Until one day, she cornered me and gave me the Evil EYE!
Bottom line, I had to quit smoking to enter first grade.
EDIT: lol, intriguing memory, now that I think about it: She didn't inhale--she "puffed." That is, I can remember her smoking, but it was as if you put a cigarette in a machine that simply "blew smoke."
Weird, what can you can remember, when you're thinking of other stuff...
Posted by CJim on :
I remember stealing grandads lucky strike's (non filtered) to see what smoking was all about. Also, stealing dad's marlboro 100's after I decided that I wanted to smoke. Make no mistake, it is a decision that is made, it doesnt just happen. Strangeky enough, my dad almost seemed pleased when I first got busted, first words out of his mouth was asking me what brand I smoke. Marlboro red's at that time, and he smiled.
Posted by jgrecoconstr on :
"I have had more older ladies proposition me than I care to count. "It was the whole cotton thing"
I believe they were thinking tampons.
Posted by CJim on :
What are you saying, they thought I belonged in their vag*na during the cycle? THat's not right dude, not right at all.
Posted by Relentless. on :
Seriously! Who is this CJim guy and why does he act like he knows us?
Posted by Relentless. on :
He's saying you're disposable...
Posted by Relentless. on :
Easily tossed I believe
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Relentless.: Seriously! Who is this CJim guy and why does he act like he knows us?
lol, Cottin Jim... he slipped in between regimes...
an OK guy
He knows me, Glass, some others...may not recognize your particular heroic, extraordinary, legendary efforts here.
Posted by Relentless. on :
Head injury or an inability to peruse the first two pages?
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Relentless.: Head injury or an inability to peruse the first two pages?
youth...
read back
Posted by Relentless. on :
well now I have to edit after your inclusion of my heroic side... oh my!... extraordinary... my my
Posted by CJim on :
quote:Originally posted by Relentless.: Seriously! Who is this CJim guy and why does he act like he knows us?
Well, I can remind you of what you used to call me back in BKMP day's, will that refresh your memory RD?
Posted by Relentless. on :
quote:Originally posted by CJim:
quote:Originally posted by Relentless.: Seriously! Who is this CJim guy and why does he act like he knows us?
Well, I can remind you of what you used to call me back in BKMP day's, will that refresh your memory RD?
Posted by jgrecoconstr on :
Don't women find us all disposable as long as there's no strings attached.... still sounds like a tampon!!! I seem to be stuck on hygiene products.
Posted by CJim on :
quote:Originally posted by Relentless.:
quote:Originally posted by CJim:
quote:Originally posted by Relentless.: Seriously! Who is this CJim guy and why does he act like he knows us?
Well, I can remind you of what you used to call me back in BKMP day's, will that refresh your memory RD?
playa
Posted by Relentless. on :
I'll tell you what.. I miss the old penny bashing days.. I enjoy my distractions now beyond measure.. namely a two year old daughter with every bit of my... ahem ahem unique description of authority structure... and my 20 year old wife... But man O man I enjoyed advising newbies to avoid scams by confronting those already duped...
Posted by CJim on :
quote:Originally posted by Relentless.: I'll tell you what.. I miss the old penny bashing days.. I enjoy my distractions now beyond measure.. namely a two year old daughter with every bit of my... ahem ahem unique description of authority structure... and my 20 year old wife... But man O man I enjoyed advising newbies to avoid scams by confronting those already duped...
Is that what your calling it now, "advising". Funny how we can justify what we do Funny how a 15 year old, and a 10 year old, and a 9 year old, and a 3 year old, and a 1 year old can put your finances in perspective. Not that I don't appreciate where you are at right now, I was there a long time ago. Man, I used to love arguing with you though. And yes, you were wrong, I made a ton of money Posted by Relentless. on :
BKMP was a scam and I haven't followed it since those days... It's a scam today no doubt. If it tilted up enough for you to exit with a profit.. that's wonderful... My intent was and always will be to teach newbies to avoid the joyous blatherings of those fully invested and waiting. Learn to read charts.. learn to read what is written .. and more importantly not written in filings with the sec... Do NOT follow someone who says "To da mooooooonnnn!!!".
Our dearly departed... soon to resurrect friend said it best about a year ago when he said... RD is crude but he has a desire to stand up for the weak... (Loosely phrased)
Posted by CJim on :
quote:Originally posted by Relentless.: BKMP was a scam and I haven't followed it since those days... It's a scam today no doubt. If it tilted up enough for you to exit with a profit.. that's wonderful... My intent was and always will be to teach newbies to avoid the joyous blatherings of those fully invested and waiting. Learn to read charts.. learn to read what is written .. and more importantly not written in filings with the sec... Do NOT follow someone who says "To da mooooooonnnn!!!".
Our dearly departed... soon to resurrect friend said it best about a year ago when he said... RD is crude but he has a desire to stand up for the weak... (Loosely phrased)
I undersand that your intentions were good, your means weren't so... then anywho, and assuming that everyone was a newbie was also wrong, I wont say I did, but I probably did and do, have more experience than you trading. New to the board, yes, new to the market, no. When in rome as they say.
Posted by T e x on :
lol, I saw on another board recently, some poor soul who claimed to have gotten in touch with Sandy...
For whatever reason, he believes now that Sandy has seen the light and is going to make all that was wrong...suddenly right.
the beat goes on...
btw? in case nobody caught this? CSHD has now the Postal Service sending letters re: mail fraud.
Posted by Relentless. on :
Just looked at a three year chart of BKMP and fail to see where I was wrong.. What's it trading at now? What's the AS? What's the OS?
Posted by CJim on :
Haven't checked since I escaped with a profit, don't care either. it's all about me, it's all about my, it's all about my my my my my money. You do have a valid point though, it does not escape me.
Posted by Relentless. on :
Point is: You were wrong.. are wrong... will be wrong as long as you are arguing with me.
I again congratulate you with "escaping" with a profit.
That alone tells you and anyone listening that I was right the whole time.
Looking at the chart tells anyone else I was right.
Try to focus.... Look at the chart... It is EXACTLY as I said it would be... what? three years ago?... Four?
Posted by CJim on :
Gotta sack out, a plane to catch in the morning. See y'all on Friday. And just for the record Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by Relentless.: Just looked at a three year chart of BKMP and fail to see where I was wrong.. What's it trading at now? What's the AS? What's the OS?
my constant retort to penny bashers was that they are no different from the S&P or the DOW, just more obvious and transparently scams...
as we now see, investing is a waste of money anymore.
Posted by Relentless. on :
quote:Originally posted by CJim: Gotta sack out, a plane to catch in the morning. See y'all on Friday. And just for the record
Missed our discussions... perhaps I should frequent the penny board more often... Posted by CJim on :
quote:Originally posted by CJim: Gotta sack out, a plane to catch in the morning. See y'all on Friday. And just for the record
How fortuitous, I last post wasn't even up.
Posted by Relentless. on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman:
quote:Originally posted by Relentless.: Just looked at a three year chart of BKMP and fail to see where I was wrong.. What's it trading at now? What's the AS? What's the OS?
my constant retort to penny bashers was that they are no different from the S&P or the DOW, just more obvious and transparently scams...
as we now see, investing is a waste of money anymore.
Yeah I remember you telling me that during the ... what the hell was the name of that stock Dusty got pissed at you over?... Doesn't matter the market.... Newbies and the inferior should be guarded by the strong...
Posted by CJim on :
quote:Originally posted by Relentless.:
quote:Originally posted by CJim: Gotta sack out, a plane to catch in the morning. See y'all on Friday. And just for the record
Missed our discussions... perhaps I should frequent the penny board more often...
YOu wont find me there anymore, on to bigger and better as it were. I am here most days, I might not post unless I see something that catches my eye. I do have a plane to catch so sleep is in order now. night guy's!
Posted by T e x on :
no name-calling!
JOYOUS
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by Relentless.: Yeah I remember you telling me that during the ... what the hell was the name of that stock Dusty got pissed at you over?... Doesn't matter the market.... Newbies and the inferior should be guarded by the strong...
i don't remember anymmore Rufus was the CEO, thats all i remember now...
well, when i did offer picks? i always told people when i bought and sold...
i stopped offering picks after i got some shares "frozen" for three and a half years now in a "global lock" by the DTCC , the company was OK'ed to trade by the SEC but the DTC refuses to handle settlement so nobody can trade the shares..
it's a long complicated story and yes it's a penny stock, but the DTC accepted forged shares and sold them to me now they refuse to accept responsibilty for their mistake.. so i cannot in good conscience recommend that anybody buy ANY stock because the DTC can at any time at their discretion decide YOUR stock is worhtless. some market huh?
i still trade and i like the indexes, they are fairly easy to play. but if everybody plays them? then they'll screw the market up too so i don't post on 'em much.
Posted by CJim on :
Usually the Q is behind the symbol when it's in banckruptcy Posted by raybond on :
the Penny days on this board Bkmp was a loser for me over all in two years of trading I did manage to make a profit not enough to keep trading penny's.
I was looking at my gains keeper and I can't believe the hundreds of trades I did.
Posted by glassman on :
if this is not absolute proof that our government is OWNED lock stock and barrel by corporate interests? what would it take to prove it?
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
WEED
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
quote:Originally posted by CJim:
quote:Originally posted by Relentless.: Seriously! Who is this CJim guy and why does he act like he knows us?
Well, I can remind you of what you used to call me back in BKMP day's, will that refresh your memory RD?
Hey Jim, you were in BKMP as well years back? Man, that Sandy sure burned everyone. I havent played pennies in a long time.
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by IMAKEMONEY: WEED
LOL.. they make Roundup for that problem now Posted by thinkmoney on :
I quit when I was pregnant with my first child. Amazing after smoking for awhile - years - sometimes off but mostly on - how easy it was to quit when I was pregnant. I didnt want to risk the health of my baby so that was more important than smoking.
After, the baby was born, I went back - got pregnant again- and quit again - then after the second was born- I tried smoking again- it literally mind me dizzy and sick - never smoked again-
Posted by skip on :
ah, I miss this place.
where's will?
Posted by T e x on :
took a job...
the punk
Posted by retiredat49 on :
what did he do pre job?
Posted by T e x on :
argue with Upside, mostly.
traded some, I guess you might remember. He and that kid had a good run with volume stocks.
He had his methods. I never crossed paths much until one day we were both on PMED, and together we pretty much nailed that day's bounce. It's on-thread somewhere.
He also gave pumpers on PLNI a full-measured, consistent, rotten-tooth hell. Truth be told, I didn't appreciate what he was saying then nearly as much as I should have.
Smokers face a hit as tobacco taxes spike!
Posted by raybond on :
I say good every time they raise the price through any means more people quit and that is a good thing for everybody.
I use to smoke heavy and quiting was the best thing I ever did for me and my family.
Posted by Relentless. on :
I say corruption every time taxes on anything go up. People have a right to ingest what they want and should be free from government's behavior conditioning.
Posted by raybond on :
I say tax the hell out of the poison.
I don't care what anybody wants to ingest just don't make me and my family ingest poison.
In this case the medical proof is in secound hand smoke hurts people so the government is protecting us that choose to live tabacoo free.
If a smoker wants to be a drain on society by prematurely getting sick ok we can foot the bill. But please smoke at home and make your own family sick.
Posted by jgrecoconstr on :
The government doesn't give a crap if you live or die as long as they make money and thats all this is about. I'm sure this was all started somewhere with lobbyists for the insurance companies who aren't happy spending money on cancer patients because it cuts into their profit. When they lose this revenue from people quitting you will care because you'll be asked to pick up part of the deficit it leaves.
Posted by Relentless. on :
Funny how efficient government is at dividing us and conquering. Everyone is separated into a category and taught to hate all other categories. Oh those dirty smokers.. I don't care what you do to them.. they don't deserve rights.. scumbags. Oh those nasty drinkers... bla bla. Oh those stupid potheads... bla bla.
It's all a distraction and most are buying it and condemning themselves.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Relentless.: Funny how efficient government is at dividing us and conquering. Everyone is separated into a category and taught to hate all other categories. Oh those dirty smokers.. I don't care what you do to them.. they don't deserve rights.. scumbags. Oh those nasty drinkers... bla bla. Oh those stupid potheads... bla bla.
It's all a distraction and most are buying it and condemning themselves.
well, what's really telling is this: If it's so bad? Just outlaw it.
Otherwise, if it's legal? How can it be justified to tax at different rates?
By that measure, what would be the tax rate on those who profit(ed) from CDOs and CDSs?
Posted by raybond on :
Well it is very hard to out law something that is part of our American culture even though it is bad for you.
They pretty much can do what thet are doing tax it more restrict it so as to modify the danger and restrict advertiseing of the product.
Such as when I was a kidtabacoo used to advertise on saturday morning cartoon shows. Thats a no,no as far as I am concerned. Of course when you are killing off 400,000 plus of you customer base every yesr you have to recruit somewhere
Posted by glassman on :
raybond, since you feel so strongly about this i would like to point out something that i believe is important.
i am a smoker who was hooked very young.
that's unquestionable. once hooked as some of us are? you might as well make us stop eating anything sweet as well...
that brings me to my point.
processed sugar, white bleached cane and korn, kills more people than anything else. maybe everything else combined.
24 Million Americans Had Diabetes in 2007 57 million more had pre-diabetes, but education drive making inroads, CDC says
so we should outlaw that too and tax it to the moon,,,
processed sugar is a drug just like nicotine. it has no nutritioanl value, we can live very well without any PROCESSED sugars... biologically speaking? sugar is needed, but processed sugars are totally irrelevant.
next on the list is highly refined grains (flour)...
our nutritional needs are for much "larger" chunks of grain, so we should either ban or tax any grain that's ground below a size that i will find for you if you wish Posted by raybond on :
First of all I am sorry that you are hooked I was to. And I have heard the case for sugar and i realize it is bad for you but one thing is when a person sits down next to another person and eats a candy bar it does nothing to the other person not so with a cigarette being smoked.
Smoke all you want to, just not in confined public places smokers are that ones that are offensive with ther habit not non smokers and my advise to you is quit. If I can you can.
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by raybond: First of all I am sorry that you are hooked I was to. And I have heard the case for sugar and i realize it is bad for you but one thing is when a person sits down next to another person and eats a candy bar it does nothing to the other person not so with a cigarette being smoked.
Smoke all you want to, just not in confined public places smokers are that ones that are offensive with ther habit not non smokers and my advise to you is quit. If I can you can.
i would be happy if they spent the money they are taxing for a "healthier" replacement nicotone delivery system they are not. patches and gum do not even have the same type of nicotine as tobacco, and beleive me i can tell the difference
people "hooked" at or around 14 are much more likely to never be able to quit than those hooked at 21
as for smoking around non-smokers, i have always respected that and don't like smoking indoors...
as fro the candy? that's debatable.
i challenge you to give one kid in four any candy and watch what happens....
it's not just candy either... its breads adn pies and cakes too....
refined grains are too much of a good thing.
go to any person that's overwirght and i bet you that 3/4's of them eat bread along witht heir potatoes or rice or whatever their starch is...
i live in a place where biscuits are always put on the table. with meals... that all by itself leadds to dibetes and other problems.
an average can of soda has about 10 tsp of sugar in it...
Posted by Relentless. on :
quote:Originally posted by raybond: First of all I am sorry that you are hooked I was to. And I have heard the case for sugar and i realize it is bad for you but one thing is when a person sits down next to another person and eats a candy bar it does nothing to the other person not so with a cigarette being smoked.
Smoke all you want to, just not in confined public places smokers are that ones that are offensive with ther habit not non smokers and my advise to you is quit. If I can you can.
Non smokers are offensive... Their asinine attitudes about the actions of others is downright obnoxious. They are weak minded and easily led by a government bent on controlling every aspect of the human experience. Quite frankly people need to pay attention to themselves and stop trying to be government's pet.
Posted by raybond on :
That has to be one of the dumbest post I have ever seen you post
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by raybond: That has to be one of the dumbest post I have ever seen you post
a perfect "10" Posted by raybond on :
What you are saying is if you want to sit in a room and smoke and the majority of the people in that romm are offended by your actions to bad for them leave is that you point. And nonsmokers are not offensive that is the first thing you have got to learn with your antisocial behavior and complete disregard for medical science is the problem The majority of the population does not smoke anymore it is bad for your health and others that is a given you smokers are the ones committing the offense And customs are changing in this case for the good .I would suggest Eourpe for a place to go smoking is much more accepted there and a lot less restricted except in resturants they have always restrited it there you have always had to go to a smoking room
Posted by glassman on :
clinton and his anti-smoking campaign is one of the biggest reasons that i cannot stand him...
i dind't inhale LOL- that's worse than inhaling its fraud no matter how you fire it up...
then the Cigars... he's going after tobacco while he's buying cigars and worse? i used to buy good Macanudos for 17$ a box, while he was in office and before Monica's cigar dance? Cigars more than tripled in price cuz he made them popular.
Posted by Relentless. on :
quote:Originally posted by raybond: What you are saying is if you want to sit in a room and smoke and the majority of the people in that romm are offended by your actions to bad for them leave is that you point. And nonsmokers are not offensive that is the first thing you have got to learn with your antisocial behavior and complete disregard for medical science is the problem The majority of the population does not smoke anymore it is bad for your health and others that is a given you smokers are the ones committing the offense And customs are changing in this case for the good .I would suggest Eourpe for a place to go smoking is much more accepted there and a lot less restricted except in resturants they have always restrited it there you have always had to go to a smoking room
Actually I don't smoke.. quit two years ago... See how you ramble on and talk as if I'm unwelcome in my country? Typical behavior. And clear evidence that my post was spot on and too close to home for you...
Posted by glassman on :
i don't see how or why growing ANY plant should be illegal.. pot, taback, poppies? sure we can regulate trade. and probably should, but making these illegal for personal consumption is presumptive.
big tobacco has paid the govt off, and is allowed to keep doing what it does....
that's where my anger lies....
i SHOULD be able to purchase a legitimate replacement for cigs at a lower price than cigs because of the moeny collected on cigs and other tabak.. instead? replacemetns are poor quality and much more expensive.
Posted by Relentless. on :
Freedom...
Posted by raybond on :
No freedom for you buddy you abuse it
Posted by Relentless. on :
I'm crazzzzyyyy and need to be contained and controlled by ten million laws.
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
LOL, YOU JUST MIGHT, NOW PASS THE GRASS!! Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by IMAKEMONEY: LOL, YOU JUST MIGHT, NOW PASS THE GRASS!!
that's what cows and horses do Posted by jgrecoconstr on :
Day 1 down day 2 starting and I could really rip off someones f,,,,,,ing head and play soccer with it.
Posted by T e x on :
hang in there, pal.
walk more, drink water...
Posted by retiredat49 on :
JG...You have to take this one day at a time...more precisely one hour at a time...Just keep telling yourself "1 more hour". Go get some nicorette gum and gnaw on that...
Posted by T e x on :
some peeps like Zyban (sp?)--ask your doc...
Posted by jgrecoconstr on :
I broke down and put a patch on an hour ago. It seemed to take the edge off and I drag on my fake one onand off. That actually gives me a buzz believe it or not.
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Funny how a 15 year old, and a 10 year old, and a 9 year old, and a 3 year old, and a 1 year old can put your finances in perspective. Not that I don't appreciate where you are at right now, I was there a long time ago. Man, I used to love arguing with you though. And yes, you were wrong, I made a ton of money ![[Were Up]](graemlins/wereup.gif)