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The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes for Treatment
Contact: Craig Roberts of The American Legion, +1-202-263-2982 Office, +1-202-406-0887 Cell
WASHINGTON, March 16 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The leader of the nation's largest veterans organization says he is "deeply disappointed and concerned" after a meeting with President Obama today to discuss a proposal to force private insurance companies to pay for the treatment of military veterans who have suffered service-connected disabilities and injuries. The Obama administration recently revealed a plan to require private insurance carriers to reimburse the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) in such cases.
"It became apparent during our discussion today that the President intends to move forward with this unreasonable plan," said Commander David K. Rehbein of The American Legion. "He says he is looking to generate $540-million by this method, but refused to hear arguments about the moral and government-avowed obligations that would be compromised by it."
The Commander, clearly angered as he emerged from the session said, "This reimbursement plan would be inconsistent with the mandate ' to care for him who shall have borne the battle' given that the United States government sent members of the armed forces into harm's way, and not private insurance companies. I say again that The American Legion does not and will not support any plan that seeks to bill a veteran for treatment of a service connected disability at the very agency that was created to treat the unique need of America's veterans!"
Commander Rehbein was among a group of senior officials from veterans service organizations joining the President, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel, Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric Shinseki and Steven Kosiak, the overseer of defense spending at the Office of Management and Budget (OMB). The group's early afternoon conversation at The White House was precipitated by a letter of protest presented to the President earlier this month. The letter, co-signed by Commander Rehbein and the heads of ten colleague organizations, read, in part, " There is simply no logical explanation for billing a veteran's personal insurance for care that the VA has a responsibility to provide. While we understand the fiscal difficulties this country faces right now, placing the burden of those fiscal problems on the men and women who have already sacrificed a great deal for this country is unconscionable."
Commander Rehbein reiterated points made last week in testimony to both House and Senate Veterans' Affairs Committees. It was stated then that The American Legion believes that the reimbursement plan would be inconsistent with the mandate that VA treat service-connected injuries and disabilities given that the United States government sends members of the armed forces into harm's way, and not private insurance companies. The proposed requirement for these companies to reimburse the VA would not only be unfair, says the Legion, but would have an adverse impact on service-connected disabled veterans and their families. The Legion argues that, depending on the severity of the medical conditions involved, maximum insurance coverage limits could be reached through treatment of the veteran's condition alone. That would leave the rest of the family without health care benefits. The Legion also points out that many health insurance companies require deductibles to be paid before any benefits are covered. Additionally, the Legion is concerned that private insurance premiums would be elevated to cover service-connected disabled veterans and their families, especially if the veterans are self-employed or employed in small businesses unable to negotiate more favorable across-the-board insurance policy pricing. The American Legion also believes that some employers, especially small businesses, would be reluctant to hire veterans with service-connected disabilities due to the negative impact their employment might have on obtaining and financing company health care benefits.
"I got the distinct impression that the only hope of this plan not being enacted," said Commander Rehbein, "is for an alternative plan to be developed that would generate the desired $540-million in revenue. The American Legion has long advocated for Medicare reimbursement to VA for the treatment of veterans. This, we believe, would more easily meet the President's financial goal. We will present that idea in an anticipated conference call with White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel in the near future.
"I only hope the administration will really listen to us then. This matter has far more serious ramifications than the President is imagining," concluded the Commander.
SOURCE The American Legion
Posted by glassman on :
the VA was asking me if i had insurance for years.
I did. i told 'em i did and they sent bills to my insurance co... BC BS...
BC and BS wouldn't pay them then won't pay them now...
this isn't new.
Posted by T e x on :
that press release is likely pretty one-sided.
think I'd wait for an AP or Reuters version before getting too upset.
Posted by glassman on :
it's serious Tex, but it isn't new. I've had VA benefits for (OMG) 25 years now. They make you fill out a fiancial status from every year. They tried to bill my insurance companies all the time.
The ONLY reason i stopped going to teh VA was cuz the war started and i didn't want to clog up the system since i already have insurance. My insurance co never paid them a dime...
i thought my insurance co was FOS- they WERE getting a bargain... now they pay five times what they would had have if they paid the VA and i had stayed there.. blue cross even told me i could get a plan that would pay them, but it would cost more... i was like, what do you mean cost more? the VA is cheaper than a private doctor and you are gonna pay either way. they pay more now....
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
I have VA now, but im moving to private this year now that my business is growing and can afford to do so. It helped when I first got out last April, but I learned that some VA hospitals have poor care. Plus all the good doctors are in private practice. If it's government issued, or government related it isnt going to be the best that is for sure.
Posted by T e x on :
oh, ya...very serious, especially now, I suspect.
and, as you perhaps intimate, nothing new--vets been screwed over for years on end.
all I'm pointing out is consider the source...
Posted by glassman on :
the VA has some great doctors, you just have to get past the paperwork jerks...
remeber the good doctors care about people the most...
the wost doctor i ever saw was at Johns Hopkins and that's in the world's top five.. i still suffer form what that bashturd did to me 12 years later. he thought he was a demigod and could do no wrong.
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
I am not sure what to think.
Not sure it matters as long as Vets can get treated somewhere without worrying about it, that's the important thing.
Let the politicians fight over the right and wrong of it, as long as the veteran and his family do not get the shaft for his or her service.
And that includes the politics involved within these service organizations. They have never been real high on my list either, but they do serve a purpose for quite a few vets.
I am like Glassman, i choose not to clog up the VA health care system. I take my care outside the VA and use private insurance to do so.
And that is on a rated disability that i do this.
The VA will pick up all prescriptions at a minimal charge or nothing if the Vet cannot afford it, even if they are not service connected.
That can be a huge savings to Vets with a lot of these high price prescriptions, maybe even a life saver.
As Glassman stated, it's been this way for a long time, but the VA has never forced the issue, if you did not want to give them the information, maybe that will be different now.
There are good points made in this article, not that i agree with all of them.
Posted by bdgee on :
quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: I have VA now, but im moving to private this year now that my business is growing and can afford to do so. It helped when I first got out last April, but I learned that some VA hospitals have poor care. Plus all the good doctors are in private practice. If it's government issued, or government related it isnt going to be the best that is for sure.
And some private hospitals have poor care.
Plus, in many cases, all the good doctors are not elsewhere.
Your claim that anything that is done by the government isn't the best is asinine and false. I offer as one example, M. D. Anderson Hospital in Houston, known world wide as the absolute epitome in cancer treatment. Another example is the NTSB, which is THE authority on the subject.
Cow, you need to stop these bigoted and false attacks.
Lying is a sin.
Posted by Relentless. on :
I'm fairly sure that by now there is enough cause and evidence of it to ban bdgee. Truth is he's getting worse by the post and is truly making every thread unreadable.
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
bdgee truly thinks he is God on this board. All knowing, always right, and if you do not agree you are the worst piece of scum there is.
Ive always said and will keep saying it says a lot about a man who can only call people names like a child and behave so irrationally.
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by Relentless.: I'm fairly sure that by now there is enough cause and evidence of it to ban bdgee. Truth is he's getting worse by the post and is truly making every thread unreadable.
what do you think bdgee? can we stop the stupid name calling and stick to fact based retorts?
Posted by bdgee on :
"bdgee truly thinks he is God on this board."
What rigtht has he got to constantly be posting crap like that intentionally inbtended to be insulting and name calling.
You stop that crap and we won't need to worry with it, glass.... I'm fed up with you assaulting me when this jerk pulls this crap.
Why haven't you posted to that jerk suggesting he should stop the slander in insults. Has he allowed a single day to pass in the last six months except to cast about insults at me? A single hour? I don't know of it.
Look at my post that he responds to and note that I didn't insult or attack, at all. I ask that he stop his bigoted and false attacks. Not just at me, but generally. he is as bad as PM with it. Yet you point at me and cryptically, so as to encourage the jerk, "what do you think bdgee? can we stop the stupid name calling and stick to fact based retorts?" Why wasn't that asked of him? He's the one posting insults, directly at me, and he does it incessantly, with encouragement from you.
And it is time to think about what rel adds here but to be nasty.
Posted by glassman on :
you are not being singled out bdgee, and you know it.
Posted by glassman on :
it's really easy... just repond to the content without the argumentum ad hominem.
i've noticed fewer and fewer people posting... they don't care to become the butt of a personal attack?
Posted by bdgee on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: you are not being singled out bdgee, and you know it.
That's not true. You have singled me out and encourage the jerks to attack by failing to stop them and pointing at me instead of me when they pull the crap.
Yes, fewer post here because of the hate and insults and if you stopped being one sided about it it could cure itself. What you are doing is allowing a cadre of nasty posting extreme right-wingers to attack as a group and they, with your blessing are dominating every thread and chasing off non-extremist. It is impossible to even consider non-political topics here, because a cow or a rel or a PM jumps in with their nastiness and post the latest rant from Limbaugh or Hanity.
Global warming is a serious scientific topic, not just a play ground for the illiterate and intellectually challenged to insult everyone that isn't republican to the core. But you'd never know it from reading the strings of hate post that ensue from even truing to carry on a conversation on the topic.
Even the "Listening" thread often has right-wing political trash talk by them. WHY?
(And it is time to do something about rel.)
Posted by Machiavelli on :
quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: bdgee truly thinks he is God on this board. All knowing, always right, and if you do not agree you are the worst piece of scum there is.
Ive always said and will keep saying it says a lot about a man who can only call people names like a child and behave so irrationally.
We'll Bdgee is correct in that you attack Obama unfairly the majority if not all the time without checking to see if such issues that you bring up were present Pre-Obama... It takes Glass sometimes to put you in your place about such facts...
Posted by Machiavelli on :
quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: I have VA now, but im moving to private this year now that my business is growing and can afford to do so.
Just out of curiosity what business did you start?
Posted by glassman on :
You have singled me out and encourage the jerks to attack by failing to stop them and pointing at me instead of me when they pull the crap.
not true.
Posted by glassman on :
It takes Glass sometimes to put you in your place about such facts...
but i do not call him names.
bdgee calls people names.
and yes cash has been calling bdgee names too..
PM calls everybody names and i have point blank asked him to find some other people to call names.
if everybody stopped doing it? then it wouldn't be aproblem.
saying "he did it first" is kindergarten
Posted by bdgee on :
"nd yes cash has been calling bdgee names too.."
Often,. in fact, incessantly....
As yet, you have never so much as suggested that cow stop the trash. That's encouraging him (and the rest of the trash talking right-wingers) to continue to be nasty and insulting. They know it is what you like.
And denying that fact is kindergarten.
But, what the hey, cow is glass's pet.....
Pet what, I don't know.
Posted by glassman on :
take a break bdgee. i consider him a friend, i've know him here longer than you. check his date. i've followed his deployments from day one as much as he was allowed to let on.
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
quote:Originally posted by bdgee: "nd yes cash has been calling bdgee names too.."
Often,. in fact, incessantly....
As yet, you have never so much as suggested that cow stop the trash. That's encouraging him (and the rest of the trash talking right-wingers) to continue to be nasty and insulting. They know it is what you like.
And denying that fact is kindergarten.
But, what the hey, cow is glass's pet.....
Pet what, I don't know.
Yeah I wouldnt bag on Glass either bdgee. He is the middle bridge between both sides on this board.
Posted by glassman on :
well, now that we are all on the same thread, in the interest of the board being more "pleasant" for lack-of a better term, i would apreciate it very much if you two would agree to disagree without the name calling and calling each other stupid.
bringing up a fox "news' articles is not slander.
the fox people might be slanderers, but bringing the article for lively debate is not ...
and cash.. for bdgee's benefit? haven;t i told you half a dozen times that it's too soon to be trying to "bring down" the democratic machine? ,,, to keep your powder dry for when they really do screw up (they will)...
it's not likely IMO that PM is going to stop calling everyone here names, but you two could at least try .
Posted by jordanreed on :
do we get milk and cookies before or after nap time? Posted by bdgee on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: take a break bdgee. i consider him a friend, i've know him here longer than you. check his date. i've followed his deployments from day one as much as he was allowed to let on.
He's your protected little favorite name calling trouble maker is what he is and you need to stop apologizing for him and straighten him out. He isn't alone in having been in service, though you seem to indicate that it is what you favor him for. That's bad.
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
He is not in favor of anything. He just knows when it comes to certain topics I know what im talking about. You just wish you had someone to relate to. You are your own creature on here bdgee. That is why I asked you a while back if you had any friends.
Posted by jordanreed on :
I like to think we are all friends...kinda like a family..
dysfunctional, but still a family
Posted by glassman on :
the only family that i know of that isn't dysfunctioanl is MINE... and that's because i rule it with an iron fist (not) Posted by jordanreed on :
tex and glass are mom and dad.. Posted by glassman on :
more like the skipper and gilligan Posted by jordanreed on :
youre "little buddy"?
Posted by bdgee on :
Cow, there may be something you imagine you know a lot about. Whatever it is, either it hasn't been shown here or it is indeed a figment of imagination. Your only purpose here appears is to be insulting and posting horrid fictions intended to soil the character of people.
It is not my fault you choose the part of a jerk. Possibly it is at least partially genetic and, thus, you are not to blame either. But it is your fault that you have chosen me as your victim. AND I AM FED UP WITH IT!
If you don't want exactly what you dish out, what sort of prissy little bitty mental case are you? You can't hold your own in the fights you start, then you run to glass for protection. You need to simply stop starting fights, then you won't need protection. (The pity is he grants your every wish and that isn't good for this place or for the development of your personality.)
Posted by glassman on :
bdgee? as for the banning question from relentless? don't you think that's hilarious? i mean, he's been banned like five times or more.. i thought it was funny. i thnk he's funny all the time. i know alot of people don't get his humor...
i sure as he77 don't get limbuggers humor... never did, and the people in my family that started listening to him way back when he started claimed he was hilarious... i never laughed once..
the thing is? the dow lost half its value in the last year, and i happen to agree that it could lose half again.
there ain't much to laugh about these days unless you work on it alittle bit. i know i am... i'm also working on making sure i'm not part of the depression if it does hit.
Posted by bdgee on :
"bdgee? as for the banning question from relentless? don't you think that's hilarious? i mean, he's been banned like five times or more."
So I have been led to believe. I don't want to know why. To tell the truth, when he isn't in one of his "moods" he can offer some quite solid and thought provoking ideas. But he only does that sparingly and he is a vicious poster, concentrating most often on in insulting the character of others for no apparent reason.
He doesn't need to be banned, just reminded that he gets a bit out of line and needs to respect others AND THEIR CONCERNS.
(If it comes to banning the fool, I want to know about it first, because I will stand with him on that. Not because I find him funny (I seldom do...it is hard to to find reason to laugh at something when it is smearing the character of someone just for the fools own amusement), but because he does sometimes provide a new or tantalizing idea worth consideration. Not often, but sometimes. But then, I wouldn't push for PM's banning and I know that would improve the atmosphere of Allstocks.)
"there ain't much to laugh about these days unless you work on it alittle bit"
Oh, I try. And I see others trying to also. They do well until cow or his brethren PM or his cousin interjects and declares some silliness about a song or some memory from times gone by to be socialistic and tells us we are all going to hell and simultaneously announces we worship Kennedy or love Clinton. (I never supported a Kennedy or a Clinton and I have to put up with that sh-t?)
Posted by Lockman on :
Now this is entertaining, bdgee insults three or four people in a discussion as to why we shouldn't insult each other. Ironic isn't.
Posted by glassman on :
I wouldn't push for PM's banning and I know that would improve the atmosphere of Allstocks.
agreed 100%..
(I never supported a Kennedy or a Clinton and I have to put up with that sh-t?)
actually budge, you and i have gone toe to toe about the clintons. i have very good factual reasons for disliking them yet you have acused me of slander and being gentically coded to hate them..
neither of which was true and i merely disagreed rather than calling you something .
i can tell you that i know liberal leaning "middle people" that hate them for the same reasons i do... they sold out.
i have TEASED you about your love for Hillary..
fact is? i would have voted for McPain if Hillary was the nominee, and i beleive (not strongly) that Mcpain would have beat her, but i've been wrong before, and i'll be wrong again...
will Obam sell out? i dunno, he's the least likely to do so that i have ever seen, but it's really really hard not to..
that's why i am just a political commentator and not in the game myself. i have a little more self-respect...
Tolkein said it well, power is a corrupting force all by itself
Posted by bdgee on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: I wouldn't push for PM's banning and I know that would improve the atmosphere of Allstocks.
agreed 100%..
(I never supported a Kennedy or a Clinton and I have to put up with that sh-t?)
actually budge, you and i have gone toe to toe about the clintons. i have very good factual reasons for disliking them yet you have acused me of slander and being gentically coded to hate them..
neither of which was true and i merely disagreed rather than calling you something .
i can tell you that i know liberal leaning "middle people" that hate them for the same reasons i do... they sold out.
i have TEASED you about your love for Hillary..
fact is? i would have voted for McPain if Hillary was the nominee, and i beleive (not strongly) that Mcpain would have beat her, but i've been wrong before, and i'll be wrong again...
will Obam sell out? i dunno, he's the least likely to do so that i have ever seen, but it's really really hard not to..
that's why i am just a political commentator and not in the game myself. i have a little more self-respect...
Tolkein said it well, power is a corrupting force all by itself
I'll go toe to toe with you again if you resort again to vulgar character attacks. You have every right to your opinion of them, but it ends when you post known falsehoods, supposedly backed up by links to some jerk that makes a living concocting lies about them. That is only destroying the hope of meaningful debate here. I don't favor them, but I do disfavor campaigns to dirty the reputation and character of anyone.
(I thought they sold out even when he was still Governor of Arkansas. I deplore it. Never-the-less, at least thus far, I am impressed with her start as Secretary of State.)
Posted by glassman on :
if you resort again to vulgar character attacks.
bdgee, you are mistaken. my dd is thourough i spoke of what i knew personally i am not prone to the propagnada brainwashing...
i ran a word search for you and slander 30 matches found.
let it go.
Posted by glassman on :
Icon 1 posted February 11, 2008 15:02 Profile for bdgee Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Reply With Quote retiredat49,
You are a Party line republican hack.
Go tune in Rush's program so you can live in the world you prefer.
i can do this for several hours. it is getting old...
the Clinton gun ban was the topic. Bill Clinton signed the ban within hours of its passage,( one of the fastest ever signed) and personally lobbied for it himself in person. and calimed it as his own in person in public.
Posted by bdgee on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: if you resort again to vulgar character attacks.
bdgee, you are mistaken. my dd is thourough i spoke of what i knew personally i am not prone to the propagnada brainwashing...
i ran a word search for you and slander 30 matches found.
let it go.
You are simply too biased when the name Clinton is about that you loose any claim to fairness or integrity. It is sad.
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by bdgee:
quote:Originally posted by glassman: if you resort again to vulgar character attacks.
bdgee, you are mistaken. my dd is thourough i spoke of what i knew personally i am not prone to the propagnada brainwashing...
i ran a word search for you and slander 30 matches found.
let it go.
You are simply too biased when the name Clinton is about that you loose any claim to fairness or integrity. It is sad.
no, your inability to have an adult conversation is sad budgee.
Posted by bdgee on :
Sad, glass.
You want to fight about the Clintons. I don't care about the Clintions....never have. Don't like them, but don't hate them.
But it does provide a smoke screen to hide the fact that not only have you never discouraged cow from his hateful insulting diatribes and personal attacks, you, instead and quite proudly, encourage them. Then, by implication, you bolster the PMs and other Limbuaugh imitators that want to turn this into a right-wing only insult and accuse chat and make it uncomfortable for anyone that isn't a republican extremist willing to avidly support the extremes of that party to post here.
You should deal with cow and his attitude.
Posted by Relentless. on :
quote:Originally posted by bdgee: "bdgee? as for the banning question from relentless? don't you think that's hilarious? i mean, he's been banned like five times or more."
So I have been led to believe. I don't want to know why. To tell the truth, when he isn't in one of his "moods" he can offer some quite solid and thought provoking ideas. But he only does that sparingly and he is a vicious poster, concentrating most often on in insulting the character of others for no apparent reason.
He doesn't need to be banned, just reminded that he gets a bit out of line and needs to respect others AND THEIR CONCERNS.
(If it comes to banning the fool, I want to know about it first, because I will stand with him on that. Not because I find him funny (I seldom do...it is hard to to find reason to laugh at something when it is smearing the character of someone just for the fools own amusement), but because he does sometimes provide a new or tantalizing idea worth consideration. Not often, but sometimes. But then, I wouldn't push for PM's banning and I know that would improve the atmosphere of Allstocks.)
"there ain't much to laugh about these days unless you work on it alittle bit"
Oh, I try. And I see others trying to also. They do well until cow or his brethren PM or his cousin interjects and declares some silliness about a song or some memory from times gone by to be socialistic and tells us we are all going to hell and simultaneously announces we worship Kennedy or love Clinton. (I never supported a Kennedy or a Clinton and I have to put up with that sh-t?)
Beege thanks for the compliment. Realistically I only insult you at the moment.. well add PM to that list.. But I'm real funny at it. And you should know very well why I was banned on at least two or more occasions... Because someone was reporting my replies to your insults... as offensive. Cannot for the life of caterpillars imagine who that could be.
I think there is a happy and glorious middle ground in this whole name calling deal. Personally if I can't throw out a few mind shattering one lined insults once in a while.. It's just not worth posting. Many of us here have been arguing/discussing points for long enough to be able to joke in some pretty extreme measures. You and I do it quite often actually. But Beege.. you haven't posted anything that wasn't an outright personal attack in quite some time. You are quite smart and could offer wonderful debates, but beginning every post with an insult and ending with decrying insulters.. It's getting old. And disappointing. Buck up little birdie and use your brain as opposed to only one finger.
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by bdgee: Sad, glass.
You want to fight about the Clintons. I don't care about the Clintions....never have. Don't like them, but don't hate them.
But it does provide a smoke screen to hide the fact that not only have you never discouraged cow from his hateful insulting diatribes and personal attacks, you, instead and quite proudly, encourage them. Then, by implication, you bolster the PMs and other Limbuaugh imitators that want to turn this into a right-wing only insult and accuse chat and make it uncomfortable for anyone that isn't a republican extremist willing to avidly support the extremes of that party to post here.
You should deal with cow and his attitude.
i bolster the PM's? LOL... i bolster the right to free speech...
i am busy as heck. i stop in here frequently for breaks from my work, but i literally put in 12 hour days 7 days per week, and that's beside an hour and a half of breaks throughout the day.
i really don't have time to go back and pull proof of each incident of what has become the normal behaviour here lately. somebody always starts "it" and somebody else always decides to keep it going....
it seems like it's basically you and cash or you and PM, and yes i take on PM. i've told him in so many words a dozen times that he is the embodiment of what makes the middle not want to have anything to do with the right... yet he keeps alienating the middle with each post...
and every time he calls me a lefty i call him something back and told him i would continue until he stopped.
you do make adhominem attacks and then you get them back... i'm not saying you start every one, but you do it with everybody... even me..
i'm not perfect, don't pretend to be. i've psoted stuff i shouldn't have. and it's still there... all over the place. but relentless is right, you are getting grumpier. it SEEMS to me like cash and PM can pull your chain pretty easily and you bark. i read most eveey post here and i am pretty good at keeping track of who said what....
my basic interest is to have more people feel like they want to participate... even if i don't agree with them, i am interested in their point of view... yours too. but i am tired of wading thru five and six post exchanges of nothing but insults to get to the meat.... it doens't have to be so damn personal, none of us here make our living off this, it's entertainment. many people just won't post if they are going to get personally attacked every time
Posted by bdgee on :
rel,
I have no idea about who might have reported your post as insulting, but I must say it could have been just about anyone and just about any of your post. You are generally that obnoxious and almost never reasonable or respectful. Such an action probably wasn't unreasonable, considering how ridiculously crude you can be....choose to be may be more to the point. Still, I can't support you being banned, then or now. I don't hold to the saw about old dogs and new tricks.
So, tell me, rel, recently, what post of yours was other than "an outright personal attack"? (And not just recently.) It defines you, after all. Were I seeking a nice reasonable person, I wouldn't schedule any valuable time at any address you were known to frequent.
Sorry to have been blunt, but it is time you butted out with your too self impressed arrogance and crudeness. The humor that glass so admires wears fast and deep and leaves nothing but the discordant ugliness you contrive and sponsor.
Should you decide to stay or should you leave and then return, please do so with a teeensy bit of respect for the room and less of the ego driven righteousness you parade about so eagerly.
As I said, occasionally, you provide a grain of thought worthy of serious investigation. However, I have never seen one pop out with you determined to force your way on the world.
With some attention to manners and decorum, I am certain your input would be valuable.
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
Posted by bdgee on :
" i'm not saying you start every one, but you do it with everybody... even me..:
Yeah and then you make certain to explain to everyone you only are blaming me. Others, particularly and namely cow, is supported, no matter what insulting attacks he makes, thus granting him freedom to attack and insult and keep the room in constant turmoil. And lordy lordy does he insult and attack, knowing you will blame it on me. He is a problem and you keeping him as a pet is another. You stop him and 99% of the discord here will be sunk. You don't and this will become nothing but an extreme right-wingers den of hate and bigotry. Open debate is no longer allowed here by order of cow, already.
Posted by Relentless. on :
Beege... If I'm so crude and tipping over the edge of worthlessness... Then what does it tell you when I say you're over the line such that you forget not only where it is but that it ever existed...
Posted by glassman on :
Yeah and then you make certain to explain to everyone you only are blaming me.
Bull, you are just the only one who is whining and making it into along drawn out whimpering session.
it's very passive aggressive, you don't usually show your feminine side
Posted by bdgee on :
quote:Originally posted by Relentless.: Beege... If I'm so crude and tipping over the edge of worthlessness... Then what does it tell you when I say you're over the line such that you forget not only where it is but that it ever existed...
It tells me you are every bit as nuts, vulgar, and nasty as always.
Posted by T e x on :
Fellas?
I haven't even talked to Bob, but I'm considering locking this thread and whacking EVERYONE's knuckles with a ruler.
It's gotten so bad, I wince every time I click on my HOME page, which is Allstocks.
I really don't want to get involved in modding Off-Topics...
but I will.
'nuff said?
Posted by T e x on :
OK, now locked.
All members are free to report my actions to the Webmaster. Just one more hedzup, though: in general, I'm way more lenient...
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