The Pentagon cannot account for 14,030 weapons — almost 4% of the semiautomatic pistols, assault rifles, machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and other weapons it began supplying to Iraq since the end of 2003.
The missing weapons will not be tracked easily: The Defense Department registered the serial numbers of only about 10,000 of the 370,251 weapons it provided — less than 3%.
anybody out there know who makes RPG's? i don't think they are US ordinance...
the last i heard? we use Grenade Launchers, not RPG's...
are these Chinese ordinance? or Russkie products? and if they are? WHY!
[ December 08, 2007, 15:00: Message edited by: glassman ]
Posted by BooDog on :
Dam sink holes! Swallerd all dat dem der WMD too!!
Posted by Persia on :
China, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria.
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by Persia: China, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria.
in a way? i wish i agreed with you Persia, that would make this easier to make sense of... you know like a black and white movie where John Wayne has a white hat and Black Bart wears a black hat.
how does one put troops in the feild and say there's bad guys out there, but you don't know who they are until they shoot at you? you can't run a war that way.
Posted by bdgee on :
"in a way? i wish i agreed with you Persia, that would make this easier to make sense of... you know like a black and white movie where John Wayne has a white hat and Black Bart wears a black hat.
I see.....Black Bart's real name was libetty Vallance!
"how does one put troops in the feild and say there's bad guys out there, but you don't know who they are until they shoot at you? you can't run a war that way."
You can run a war that way, but it can't have any positive results. Most certainly it can't with respect to winning, in any classical sense. It isn't possible to force capitulate from "the enemy", since you have no idea who to force it from.
Posted by Machiavelli on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: The Pentagon cannot account for 14,030 weapons — almost 4% of the semiautomatic pistols, assault rifles, machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and other weapons it began supplying to Iraq since the end of 2003.
The missing weapons will not be tracked easily: The Defense Department registered the serial numbers of only about 10,000 of the 370,251 weapons it provided — less than 3%.
anybody out there know who makes RPG's? i don't think they are US ordinance...
the last i heard? we use Grenade Launchers, not RPG's...
are these Chinese ordinance? or Russkie products? and if they are? WHY!
Go rent the movie The Lord of War... makes pretty good points about the illegal black market for weapons... and don't think the U.S. is so innocent of the black market worldwide...
Posted by glassman on :
seen it, the Russkies built their current economic power house on that trade, it was their "seed money"...
i have never thought we (or any other country) had more (or less)morals then the Russkies, we do however have more Justice as in checks and balances than most countries...
there are too many indications that the insurgency has been instigated and funded by our own tax dollars...
here's a smoking gun:
Inspector General Out at State
By ANNE GEARAN – 3 hours ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — The State Department's embattled inspector general, accused of impeding a Justice Department investigation of Blackwater Worldwide, announced his resignation Friday, saying a poisonous political atmosphere in Washington deters people from careers in public service.
Howard Krongard told President Bush in a letter that he would quit effective Jan. 15. He released a brief public statement that said recent congressional testimony and correspondence gives ample documentation of the reasons for his departure. He listed, in Washington-style bullet points, the dates of his previous statements dealing with conflict-of-interest and other allegations. Krongard has said he never stood in the way of the Blackwater probe, and he and his lawyer have said he did not know his brother was a Blackwater adviser. A letter from his lawyer, who has called the situation "he-said, he-said," is one of the documents Krongard lists in his statement.
didn't know his brother worked for blackwater? unreal... Blackwater was hired by the State Dept... it gets better:
Blackwater Worldwide — a private contractor that protects U.S. diplomats in Iraq — is alleged to have smuggled weapons into the country. In November, Krongard was forced to recuse himself from any inquiries into Blackwater after it was disclosed that his brother had joined the company's advisory board.
was Balckwater the arms dealer? we'll just have to wait and see...
the Dems have such a target rich environment to investigate corruption in the Iraq war trade.. what are they waiting for?
Posted by Machiavelli on :
I would say they are waiting and/or concentrating on taking the White House first in next year's elections... plus what will come out of it? Congressional hearings that accomplish nothing like the Iran/Contra scandal?.... As for the Lord of War... guess you didn't pay attention to the part at the end when Yuri is in jail being questioned and reads the newspaper and he states that the Russians and the U.S. are the biggest arms dealers in the world but that they can't deal directly the arms due to public relations so they play a blind eye to black marketers who do in conflicts of U.S. interest...
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by Machiavelli: I would say they are waiting and/or concentrating on taking the White House first in next year's elections... plus what will come out of it? Congressional hearings that accomplish nothing like the Iran/Contra scandal?.... As for the Lord of War... guess you didn't pay attention to the part at the end when Yuri is in jail being questioned and reads the newspaper and he states that the Russians and the U.S. are the biggest arms dealers in the world but that they can't deal directly the arms due to public relations so they play a blind eye to black marketers who do in conflicts of U.S. interest...
here's what i said:
quote:Originally posted by glassman: seen it, the Russkies built their current economic power house on that trade, it was their "seed money"...
i have never thought we (or any other country) had more (or less)morals then the Russkies, we do however have more Justice as in checks and balances than most countries...
we are ABLE to openly discuss what we believe is wrong with our government and that is something the Chinese and the Russians (for starters) do not have...
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