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Posted by Peaser on :
 
Thank goodness!

US hails Venezuela vote as message to Chavez

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071203/pl_afp/venezuelareferendumuswhouse
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
Hey, Pease, long tome no see....
 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
Hey, Pease, long tome no see....

no doubt

Hope all is well Peaser!
 
Posted by Machiavelli on :
 
I'm actually surprised he didn't fix the election/vote.... but don't be surprised if he does in the near future...
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
Maybe he thought he had it fixed and was surprised.
 
Posted by thesource on :
 
He won't go quietly I am sure ........
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
sources post reminded me of a good poem, a little culture for the masses.

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

-- Dylan Thomas
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by thesource:
He won't go quietly I am sure ........

No, Chavez is like Bush. He'll rant and rage and threated and lie to the end.

(Or, in dubya's case, until very close to the end, when he will use the last few hours to concoct a list to pre-pardon and a lie that he thinks will make him sound honest in doing so. Thinking isn't one of his talents.)
 
Posted by Lockman on :
 
Chavez has until 2012 to dismantle the government in place.
Using fear of the USA will be his cornerstone for change.
Hopefully our next Republican President will do a better job of foreign policy and show the world we need not be feared but respected.
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
Yes, by the time there is another republican president, that may be possible, but it will take many years until the world is going to believe much any United States president promises or says.

But for now through the intervening years, dubya and his supporting cast, the rubber stamp republicans, have given the world good reason to fear us and destroyed every reason to respect us.
 
Posted by thesource on :
 
I highly doubt a democrat will be elected in 2008 .
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by thesource:
I highly doubt a democrat will be elected in 2008 .

i got some land near the everglades for sale too...
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
And I got this little thingie you can bolt around the gas line in you car and it more than tripples gas milage...


Gah-round-teeed

Just $49.99 and you will save that much on just a couple of tanks of gas.....
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
And to make it even more inviting, if you'll add just a single $5 bill in addition with your order, I'll include a genuine engraved picture of the Father of our Country, George Washington, with your GasSavingWonder.
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
And I got this little thingie you can bolt around the gas line in you car and it more than tripples gas milage...


Gah-round-teeed

Just $49.99 and you will save that much on just a couple of tanks of gas.....

I was a sucker for that one a decade ago. Kids.
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BooDog:
quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
Hey, Pease, long tome no see....

no doubt

Hope all is well Peaser!

All is just Dandy here. Been the best year for me in the market ever, so far that is. We still have one month to go. Started concentrating on big board stocks for the most part. Bounces on the fallen home lenders made killer trades. Didn't hold a stock for more than two weeks at a time, flipping as I went.
 
Posted by Machiavelli on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lockman:
Chavez has until 2012 to dismantle the government in place.
Using fear of the USA will be his cornerstone for change.
Hopefully our next DEMOCRAT President will do a better job of foreign policy and show the world we need not be feared but respected.

There... fixed... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Peaser:
quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
And I got this little thingie you can bolt around the gas line in you car and it more than tripples gas milage...


Gah-round-teeed

Just $49.99 and you will save that much on just a couple of tanks of gas.....

I was a sucker for that one a decade ago. Kids.
yeah, i bought two, th esecond one was half price whoopie!.... oh well...
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
Ok, so you've already got a GasSavingWonder and don't need another.

I understand that.

Since you have one, I'll let you in on the genuine engraved picture of the Father of our Country, George Washington.

Just forward me $5 and I'll send you your picture 1st class mail.

If you want one to hang on the den wall at home and another for the office, I'll let you have a cut rate, just $8 for the two.
 
Posted by Lockman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Machiavelli:
quote:
Originally posted by Lockman:
Chavez has until 2012 to dismantle the government in place.
Using fear of the USA will be his cornerstone for change.
Hopefully our next DEMOCRAT President will do a better job of foreign policy and show the world we need not be feared but respected.

There... fixed... [Big Grin]
Which Demo candidate is going to bring us respect?
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
"Which Demo candidate is going to bring us respect?"

I appreciate your concern for returning the U.S. to a position of respected stature among the Nations of the world, but it needs to parallel a realization that there is no republican candidate that can (and from the rhetoric of their campaigning, even wants to try to).
 
Posted by Machiavelli on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lockman:
quote:
Originally posted by Machiavelli:
quote:
Originally posted by Lockman:
Chavez has until 2012 to dismantle the government in place.
Using fear of the USA will be his cornerstone for change.
Hopefully our next DEMOCRAT President will do a better job of foreign policy and show the world we need not be feared but respected.

There... fixed... [Big Grin]
Which Demo candidate is going to bring us respect?
What Bgeesus said.. no Republican Prez after Bush will bring us that... so the world would respect a Dem prez more even if only for a short time... they have to undo the damage Bush has done in the last few years...
 
Posted by Lockman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Machiavelli:
quote:
Originally posted by Lockman:
quote:
Originally posted by Machiavelli:
quote:
Originally posted by Lockman:
Chavez has until 2012 to dismantle the government in place.
Using fear of the USA will be his cornerstone for change.
Hopefully our next DEMOCRAT President will do a better job of foreign policy and show the world we need not be feared but respected.

There... fixed... [Big Grin]
Which Demo candidate is going to bring us respect?
What Bgeesus said.. no Republican Prez after Bush will bring us that... so the world would respect a Dem prez more even if only for a short time... they have to undo the damage Bush has done in the last few years...
I don't think the world cares if our next President is Democrat or Republican. What the world communty is looking for is a person of integrity and insightfulness.

The Party issue is one of domestic importance, the question is will the next republican president recognize the values of the party or go off on a spending frenzy like this one.

Hopefully who ever does become President, they will be a better communicator than this one.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
Lock, it's not just spending, he has dismantled our diplomatic corps, gutted their policy, and literally chased off hundreds of high level military personell that not only had integrity and the guts to stand up and say what they beleive is right? but they were CORRECT when they said it, and were sent packing.
 
Posted by jordanreed on :
 
my dead,mute cat is a better communicator!
 
Posted by Ace of Spades on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jordanreed:
my dead,mute cat is a better communicator!

[Confused] [Confused] [Confused] [Confused] [Confused]

Is the cat Mute because he's dead....or is he dead because nobody wants a mute cat around? [Confused]
 
Posted by jordanreed on :
 
yes
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
it's too bad Joe Biden isn't running as a Republican. i think he'd win, and win the Presidency. Unfortunately? the Dems won't put him out there to run.
his plan is to break the country into three pieces and "keep 'em separated".

that's what works. [Wink]
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
Communicator hell.

All this bull jackass ego-ed screwball or any of his "appointees" communicates is lies and horse sh-t right-wing propaganda that is based on a political and ethical philosophy that was current during the Little Ice Age.

George dubya Bush, the Great Prevaricator....
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
Bush getting his daily dose of "smarts"...

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is that Bernie Kerick?

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Posted by bdgee on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
Bush getting his daily dose of "smarts"...

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is that Bernie Kerick?

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...lol.....

No, Bernie was behind dubya in that reception line, palming the envelopes full of bills the corporate dealers were slipping into his palm....
 
Posted by Lockman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
Bush getting his daily dose of "smarts"...

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is that Bernie Kerick?

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What the heck is he doing now? I saw the pope do that as a blessing. What's Bush's motive? lol

And Rudie, that looks a little gay. Of course there's nothing wrong with that.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
nope, nothing at all wrong with being gay:

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Posted by bdgee on :
 
As long as it is by choice and you keep it a secret.

None of this unholy anti-christian nonsense about it being natural or part of the design of God's order, though.
 
Posted by Machiavelli on :
 
quote:
I don't think the world cares if our next President is Democrat or Republican.
With the exception of perhaps Reagan (who wasn't a politician in my book but just a actor playing a part) most if not all Democrat presidents were well liked and/or more respected world wide then Republican ones since the beginning of perhaps the 20th Century imo. And I don't know what your experiences are with chatting with people from other countries but i chat with people in China, Russia, Italy, Ukraine etc. and all want to see a Democrat Prez be elected regardless of who..

quote:
What the world communty is looking for is a person of integrity and insightfulness.
From a politician? lol you are asking too much my friend... all politicians regardless of party in all countries are corrupt in one way or another.. some very little and some alot...

quote:
The Party issue is one of domestic importance, the question is will the next republican president recognize the values of the party or go off on a spending frenzy like this one.
no Republican since perhaps Nixon or before has ever done any real good for this country... usually just scandals and/or lies while stepping on the common person...

quote:
Hopefully who ever does become President, they will be a better communicator than this one. [/QB]
I can't see how any president can be any worst a communicatory then Dubya...
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
i chat with people in China, Russia, Italy, Ukraine etc. and all want to see a Democrat Prez be elected regardless of who..

sadly? all you are doing is giving campaign pointers to the candidates that pander to the xenophobes..

and i know you and i disagree about how to deal with the [Wink] *undocumented* aliens, but i'm not a xenophobe...
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
no Republican since perhaps Nixon or before has ever done any real good for this country

funny we agree on that... except Eisenhower. he was a great man and a great president... he started the building of our current interstate hiway system for one....

Nixon was crucified IMO... he shouldn't have covered up what his staff did, but it wasn't so bad that he needed to leave office.. he didn't order them to do it.

what happened after? a disgrace....
 
Posted by Machiavelli on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:

funny we agree on that... except Eisenhower. he was a great man and a great president... he started the building of our current interstate hiway system for one....

Eisenhower didn't do much as a President... as a General he did of course.. but as President... not much to give praise about... but the interstate system is notable... though I would of thought that was more prevalent during FDR's presidency then Eisenhower's... also the U2 being shot down over Russia during Eisenhowers watch wasn't helpful to him but I wouldn't blame that on him... when it comes to spying.. chit happens..

quote:
Nixon was crucified IMO... he shouldn't have covered up what his staff did, but it wasn't so bad that he needed to leave office.. he didn't order them to do it.
Nixon got what he deserved.. and yes it was bad enough the coverup for him to leave... but he should of had ballz enough to stay and face the music... and if you think he didn't order that or similar things you are being naive my friend...

quote:
what happened after? a disgrace.... [/QB]
oh like Gerry Ford's pardon(s)? ... lol
 
Posted by Machiavelli on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
i chat with people in China, Russia, Italy, Ukraine etc. and all want to see a Democrat Prez be elected regardless of who..

sadly? all you are doing is giving campaign pointers to the candidates that pander to the xenophobes..

and i know you and i disagree about how to deal with the [Wink] *undocumented* aliens, but i'm not a xenophobe...

I don't know if your a xenophobe or not but sometimes your words do come out like one.. and no doubt the majority of board members on here are xenophobes... but as for my statement... they are not residing here and are giving their opinions about whom they would like to see as a President here because much like some or all of us the world is reluctant of another Republican president whom will probably be similar to Dubya.. If i had said my friends were Brits, Germans, French etc... you probably would not have made that statement...
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
i made the statement because Karl Rove played on Xenophobia to get Bush re-elected.. and Romney and Giulianni are already on it..

i can't tell you how many people said that the Terrorists wanted a democrat elected..


as for Eisenhouer? you forgot the Little Rock 9 He placed the Arkansas National Guard under federal control and sent 1,000 U.S. Army paratroopers from the 101st Airborne Division to assist them in restoring order in Little Rock. ..

also? it was the Army that first began true functional integration in America.. i think Ike was part of that too...
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
as for why you think i come across as xenophobic sometimes? it's about economics, not people..

it's about the middlemen, too many middlemen....
 


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