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quote:I do play guitar since i was a teenager (im 35 now) and I can give my opinion on both these guys more so then you guys... the first one is a 16 yr old teenager if my memory serves me correct. I saw this video a year ago.The video clip was a hit on Youtube and the internet when it came out. He's not faking it, trust me i know. And what he does is not easy and no... 1 year of lessons will not having you play like that. Guitar is a very difficult instrument and metal guitarists (which essentially this kid is) are the best musicians overall in the world in terms of the guitar... they literally practice hours and hours a day...they can play any style of music or learn any style very fast... not only that but metal guitarists can transition to other instruments very easily including string instruments like the violin and instruments like the piano (iv'e known alot of such people in my lifetime who have including a best friend of mine from high school who picked up other instruments after mastering guitar and pretty much mastered those).
Originally posted by Upside:
You know, I'll grant you that these two guys are talented as far as the guitar goes. I'm still questioning if the first guy was really playing or just faking it. To me though, learn to play a wind or a string and bow instrument and that truly shows talent. You or I could take guitar lessons for a year or two and do exactly what they're doing. Try picking up a sax or a violin and become a maestro in a year, it doesn't happen. That takes a lifetime in my opinion.
quote:Sorry Mach but I'm not buying it. My brother has played around with a guiter (Fender Strat) since he was 16. He's 45 now. He's never taken a lesson, just taught himself and he can do what that guy does. Ever see or hear Ric Emmett of the old band Triumph play "fingertalking?" He can mimick that to a "T". Some of Frank Zappas best guitar work can be copied by a 2nd year student.
Originally posted by Machiavelli:
quote:I do play guitar since i was a teenager (im 35 now) and I can give my opinion on both these guys more so then you guys... the first one is a 16 yr old teenager if my memory serves me correct. I saw this video a year ago.The video clip was a hit on Youtube and the internet when it came out. He's not faking it, trust me i know. And what he does is not easy and no... 1 year of lessons will not having you play like that. Guitar is a very difficult instrument and metal guitarists (which essentially this kid is) are the best musicians overall in the world in terms of the guitar... they literally practice hours and hours a day...they can play any style of music or learn any style very fast... not only that but metal guitarists can transition to other instruments very easily including string instruments like the violin and instruments like the piano (iv'e known alot of such people in my lifetime who have including a best friend of mine from high school who picked up other instruments after mastering guitar and pretty much mastered those).
Originally posted by Upside:
You know, I'll grant you that these two guys are talented as far as the guitar goes. I'm still questioning if the first guy was really playing or just faking it. To me though, learn to play a wind or a string and bow instrument and that truly shows talent. You or I could take guitar lessons for a year or two and do exactly what they're doing. Try picking up a sax or a violin and become a maestro in a year, it doesn't happen. That takes a lifetime in my opinion.
In this video he is using metal techniques such as arpeggios, hammer ons/pull offs, volume swells, tapping , modal scales etc. Things that are difficult to master and need just as much study as a violinist and their techniques if not more so. Not only that but the kid also improvised well executed solos because if you ever heard the original Canon in D by Pachelbel it doesn't have quite as many notes.
As for the 2nd guy.. his musical style is not metal but he uses a metal technique (tapping) as well as a Funk Bass technique on a guitar instead. The 2nd guy is good but not my style of music.
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quote:No offense but you are talking out of your ass. As for fingertalking. I assume that is where you mean the "guitarist" makes the guitar sound like it's talking like it is a human voice. I agree that "fingertalking" is not that difficult to do. Steve Vai (david lee roth's old guitarist in his solo band, student of Joe Satriani played in Zappa's band at the age of 19 etc.) used to do that alot. And a guitarist from the 70's in the band Triumph before guitar got really "technical" in the 80's does not compare to any and i do mean any guitarist from nowadays. Anyone can play Triumph's guitar work blind folded. Guitar if you have not been paying attention has gotten very "technical" since Eddie Van Halen debuted in 1978 on VH's first album and made "tapping" famous.
Originally posted by Upside:
quote:Sorry Mach but I'm not buying it. My brother has played around with a guiter (Fender Strat) since he was 16. He's 45 now. He's never taken a lesson, just taught himself and he can do what that guy does. Ever see or hear Ric Emmett of the old band Triumph play "fingertalking?" He can mimick that to a "T". Some of Frank Zappas best guitar work can be copied by a 2nd year student.
Originally posted by Machiavelli:
quote:I do play guitar since i was a teenager (im 35 now) and I can give my opinion on both these guys more so then you guys... the first one is a 16 yr old teenager if my memory serves me correct. I saw this video a year ago.The video clip was a hit on Youtube and the internet when it came out. He's not faking it, trust me i know. And what he does is not easy and no... 1 year of lessons will not having you play like that. Guitar is a very difficult instrument and metal guitarists (which essentially this kid is) are the best musicians overall in the world in terms of the guitar... they literally practice hours and hours a day...they can play any style of music or learn any style very fast... not only that but metal guitarists can transition to other instruments very easily including string instruments like the violin and instruments like the piano (iv'e known alot of such people in my lifetime who have including a best friend of mine from high school who picked up other instruments after mastering guitar and pretty much mastered those).
Originally posted by Upside:
You know, I'll grant you that these two guys are talented as far as the guitar goes. I'm still questioning if the first guy was really playing or just faking it. To me though, learn to play a wind or a string and bow instrument and that truly shows talent. You or I could take guitar lessons for a year or two and do exactly what they're doing. Try picking up a sax or a violin and become a maestro in a year, it doesn't happen. That takes a lifetime in my opinion.
In this video he is using metal techniques such as arpeggios, hammer ons/pull offs, volume swells, tapping , modal scales etc. Things that are difficult to master and need just as much study as a violinist and their techniques if not more so. Not only that but the kid also improvised well executed solos because if you ever heard the original Canon in D by Pachelbel it doesn't have quite as many notes.
As for the 2nd guy.. his musical style is not metal but he uses a metal technique (tapping) as well as a Funk Bass technique on a guitar instead. The 2nd guy is good but not my style of music.
I admit I might be talking out of my ass here but at least in my opinion, the guitar with all it's nuances is relatively easy to learn when compared with what I consider the finer or true or real musical instruments.
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quote:No offense Tex... but Doors, Zep, Stones etc. are not difficult to play.. and there really isn't any manipulation.. its just nothing to play lol
Originally posted by T e x:
well said, JR...
I managed one of the top cover bands in this area, beginning when they were still in their teens...the lead guitarist was one of the "hottest" kids i had -- and have -- ever seen. Using all "vintage" gear, such Fender Black- and Silverface amps, Strats, Tellies, Gibson...they could sound like Stones here, The Doors there (*without* a keyboard, yet), Led Zep next, and so on... and a lot had to do with the lead guitarist and the way he would manipulate whichever guitar he was playing *and* the amp...
But...jazz? Not so much... ie, lots of better jazz guitarists... He's with a successful country band, now, doing pretty well.
quote:Try learning it on your own or with a instructor as a experiment for 1 year. Then try what you saw in those video clips. To make it easy try the first clip with the kid and Canon in D.
Originally posted by jordanreed:
my opinion only, since i dont play guitar...but i know many who do.
quote:No offense but your brother is what's called Old School. Sort of like someone who listens to cassettes still even though CD's came in vogue and are more advanced. Hope you understand what I mean. But he is correct that classical and flamenco is very difficult but so is Metal of which he knows nothing about.
My bro, for one. he's 58.. been playing for 48 yrs...he doesnt give props to many guitarists, cept the classical and flamenco guys..
quote:This is where your brother knows nothing about metal guitar. Though Eddie was a innovator with two hand tapping he really is nothing when it comes to technique. Any metal guitarist can play Eddie's songs/solos with eyes blinded but Eddie can't play their stuff. He's a innovator for is time but not a master no more. Satriani, Vai and others can two hand tap around Eddie any day of the week. You should rewatch the Satriani vid clip again. Eddie can't do that. Nor would your brother be able to. And it's not a trick it's a actual technique that Eddie, whom your brother respects, started but guys like Satriani took it further.
One guy he does appreciate alot is eddie van halen..he thinks he is one of the best.
quote:Again like I said he has no idea what he is talking about. Do me a favor and ask him what "tricks"? Tricks to me is like lip synching or faking it and what these guys do is real and not fake. And also tell him that I challenge him to try the most difficult metal pieces then give a opinion. As for showmanship. What Stevie Ray Vaughn does by playing guitar behind his back is showmanship it doesn't make it any less difficult to do. Ask your brother to do that without looking at the fretboard.
But, basically, he makes fun of most metal guys cuz of the tricks they use for showmanship.
quote:Because he only plays two styles he is very biased and doesn't appreciate other styles nor how difficult it is to play them. Like I said, I challenge him to play metal.The lead stuff and not the rhythm. Your brother like I said is old school. He was in his 30's already when metal guitar progressed from the easy 70's stuff to the more advanced 80's stuff.Most guys in their 30's wouldn't get into metal so in that regards he is biased. On the other hand Metal Guitarists embrace all music styles including flamenco and classical guitar like my metalhead friend did and has. So like I said I challenge your brother to try to play the lead metal pieces before he makes a biased opinion.
Scott(brother) plays flamenco and classical,,has been for 35 yrs, and he practices 6- 10 hours a day and still has a long ways to go. he is great but not as polished as a..say... Paco? Very difficult to master that style. I was on the road with the bro for 10 yrs..and while I would be out fishing..he would be in the room practicing,, everyday! and not the rock we were playing on stage, but his damn flamenco crap.( personally i dont like that style) ..
quote:Let's take trumpet for example. You put your foot in your mouth with this one. I've played both instruments (took trumpet lessons in school when I was younger) and play guitar (metal and rock and some classical). Guitar imo and this is someone whose experienced in both is the more difficult instrument to play. For one you only need three fingers on the trumpet because there is only three piston valves. Guitar there are 6 strings(some other guitars have 12 strings) with about 23 frets on a average electric guitar. For metal you use anywhere between 4 fingers and up to all 10 fingers depending on the technique and/or speed of a piece of music. So again if a Metal guitarist is as dedicated to guitar to practice for hours on end and play as good as they do, do you not think that if they put those same hours into trumpet that they would not be just as good with a instrument that only requires 3 fingers?
those kids on the vid?...good..but I'd like to hear them play trumpet or the bone or some reed....after the same amount of practice.Bet they couldnt come close.
quote:It may seem it but it's not. Guitar has the same 12 note scales and music theory as any other instrument. Playing a instrument is not all technique, it is also music theory. And music theory in guitar is just as difficult. And I'll go a little further and say why metal guitar is also difficult if not more so then classical. Metal musicians compose their own pieces. Classical pretty much doesn't.They play pieces that were already composed 100's of years ago. So therefor improvisation is another reason metal guitar is more difficult. Classical people for the most part do not compose and have no creativity in that regard. There are some that do compose but for the most part you do not hear anything about them because what they compose does not measure up to the masters of the past.
I,ve been playing sax for 45 years and I'm not close to some of the guys in this area...it does seem that guitar is easier to learn than other instruments..but to master?..no.
quote:I will take your word for it that it takes one day to learn the harmonica. I don't think I could learn it in one day. I think every individual has a different learning curve with regards to all instruments.But you are correct that it takes years and years of practice to master any instrument. Metal guitar is a very technical and fast style with alot of improvisation that has to be executed just as perfectly as a classical piece. It's not respected and appreciated because of people's ignorance of it. People do not explore it enough to appreciate the time and effort and difficulty it is to play it.
anything to master takes years and years of practice. I learned the harmonica in one day..30 years ago..still play everyday...but not as good as a charlie Musslewhite...
quote:It has been said that Brian Jones when he was alive and in the Rolling Stones could pick up any instrument and pretty much master it within hours. In fact the more complex things & other instruments not guitar you hear in the Stones recordings in the early years were in fact Jones and not Keith Richards. Also Prince is said to be a multi instrumentalist. Both these guys are not metal guitarists but they are guitarists who have a good sense of music (think of music theory subconciously)that they can pick up any instrument and master it it's intricancies(i probably spelled this wrong lol). But i know metal guitarists who can play more then one instrument. Most can play piano as well since their fingers are so well trained.
I have yet to hear One guy play most anything, other than the guitar( or harp), as good as those kids at that age. but lots can play guitar that good....a good show can make up for a lot...
quote:Yes but why do you think they are? Because they live, eat and breathe guitar. They have no lives pretty much. All they do is practice. Back in the day it was difficult for me to get my "guitar" friends to come out and hang out. They were always practicing. It is because of this dedication that these "kids" get very good and then there is a misconception from people who do not play the instrument that it must be easy to play. But it's not. I'ts just that they practice ALOT. I'll equate them to a skateboarder. If you have seen the skateboard kids out in the street in your neighborhood. They all have no lives. All they do is skate. You rarely see girls with them. Yet some if not most are good at skating with their "tricks". Tony Hawk didn't become the greatest skater of all time because he sat on his ass. But I am sure it is safe to say that none of us would think that skateboarding is easy just because these kids master it at such a young age. I would just say that young people can master things alot easier then us older folks. But that doesn't make any instrument etc. any less difficult overall. Languages is another field. Kids seem to master languages alot easier then us adults can. See a pattern and how I compare this to guitar. Metal guitar is not easy at all and it's not "tricks" as your brother thinks. So ask your bro to try to play it and I think you should learn to play guitar as well for 1 year at least. Then perhaps you might appreciate these kids more but more importantly you might respect the guitar more and can give a better opinion then you are now.
BUT...those kids are really,really good.
quote:"Easier to get good at" if you play the Rolling stones but not so if you play stuff by Satriani, Vai, Malsteen, Rhoads, MacAlpine, Becker,Friedman,Moore etc. Most of us can't play like them and probably never will play like them, they are just that advanced.
in conclusion....imo....guitar is easier to get good at, but not easier to master ...
quote:Yeah Sharon Isbin is amazing. She's been playing since the age of 9 or 11. I read a interview of hers years ago. At one point when he was alive she was in Andres Segovia's master classes. Anyways more clips below:
Originally posted by retiredat49:
I believe you Machavelli...lol...and yes I do want to see more examples...
Upside...NO ONE can learn to play like these people in 1 or 2 years...in fact MOST people could NEVER learn to play like that...EVER! Only seriously dedicated, extremely talented people can play that well.
I've heard all of these guitarists except for Sharon Isbin...she is damn good! Show me some more...
quote:I'm passionate about arguments when I think someone is wrong... and I guess you miss the part about me playing guitar, trumpet and some piano since I was a kid... so I would say my experience is not very limited (I'm 35)... and as for blues... well I never recall saying that playing blues rhythm is difficult... but if you think doing what Stevie Ray Vaughn does lead wise (excluding the showmanship) is easy... your sadly mistaken... if such things were easy then anyone can or would be a star or considered a guitar god... and contrary to belief very few are for a reason... because it's not easy and not everyone can create such music that is considered "good" or "great" much less have others think your playing is good/great... Playing other people's songs is one thing... playing your own and be a genius is another thing....
Originally posted by jordanreed:
this is a stupid arguement...sorry..i stand by everything i said...trumpet requires only 3 fingers,yes BUT?...thats to play every note in every scale...very,very,very difficult.your embouchure affects everything.... with guitar you can play a blues song in 10 minutes..never having played before..try that with sax.. cant play chords with sax, only progressions..again,much more difficult and takes longer to accomplish. not disparaging you at all.. but your experience is limited...and thats ok..time will heal that...
quote:What did he play that you consider metal? Black Sabbath?
as for my bro?...he can play metal in his sleep,,did it for as long as you have been alive.
anyone can play that.. i doubt very much so he can play Paul Gilbert, Tony MacAlpine, Yngwie Malsteen,Marty Friedman, David T.Chastain,Steve Vai, Satriani etc. much less playing Di Meola etc. For some reason (and i would say it's because of lack of "experience" from you) you seem to think that guitar is just holding down a note and picking the note... when the styles these people play require a whole lot more then that... like sweep picking arpeggios in 32nd notes and higher, two handed tapping with multiple fingers ala Satriani, etc. not "tricks" but actual technique that is very difficult... quote:Why won't you try? it is after all easier to play/learn then the Sax correct?
i wont try to learn guitar..why should I?.. everyone plays that...you try to play sax..now that would be something... I do play keys, however... I think everyone who plays should understand chords and learning on the piano is the way to go..
You should be able to do all those metal "tricks" with ease and be playing like that kid in the Canon in D vid clip at the very least.... Anyways the reason I suggest you try to learn guitar is to see for yourself if it's actually easy to learn on... because if you don't then you really don't know what you are talking about any more then I would know what I'm talking about sax since I do not play the instrument... I easily could say the same thing about the sax that you do about the guitar... but I won't because I'm big enough to admit that playing the sax is difficult and only for the reason because my opinion is all instruments are equally difficult to play and master... for the most part it depends on the individual... like i said earlier... everyone has different learning curves... some can learn a technique in one week... others take a year... quote:And your point being with this list of your family other then they play instruments? I don't know them nor have I heard them play any instrument to form a opinion that they know what they are doing much less you with your sax playing. Anyone can say they play a instrument for X amount of years. Doesn't mean they are good or know what they are doing after all those years. My father has been playing guitar for probably 50 or 60 years (has all your family beat in years) but I would say he is average at best and can't read notes. He asked me to teach him sometime of which I haven't had the time to teach him but will when he gets back from vacation. And as for the instruments that all your family play... with the exception of classical guitar... if you/your family members cannot create your own music with those instruments and can only play songs already created by other people then you are just playing a song note by note and doesn't make you good at the instrument (me as well).... just because a painter can make a exact copy of a Monet painting doesn't make him a painter per say...
by the way,, my nephew went to Berkeley , one brother plays trumpet, one other plays guitar and piano,another trombone,a sister plays sax and piano, another plays piano and trombone, I play clarinet,alto and tenor sax and harp and keys, and my mother played piano...my dad couldnt even play the radio
quote:I know it's more then just technique Tex.. i know it's the "feel" as well...but in this thread I'm focusing on the technique since that is what is the real issue to this discussion... with the exception of me and one other person... everyone thinks the "technique" in guitar regardless of style is easy to learn... in the words of one person... in 1 year or less... my argument is.. it's not easy and you are pressed to think that you can do what some of these guys do in 1 year or less when they themselves took years to learn what they do...
Originally posted by T e x:
no offense taken... will point out tho' that thousands of guitarists can hit the same notes in the same rythym, and the dummer is keeping time, etc...but they don't still don't do the song justice. For instance, I've seen "tribute bands" doing Beatles, Stones, Zep, Doors, AC/DC, etc. Have seen only one Beatles tribute better than my guys do Beatles, and none of the others... It's one thing to be able to tell what song they're playing, another thing to play, say, the "famous lead" note for note...quite another thing to "capture" the feel total sound...
quote:Not sure where you are going with this... I know guitarists who play sax,guitar and piano... like i said guitarists tend to be multi instrumentalist then let's say a primary sax player being a multi instrumentalist.. guitarists (especially metal ones) have the natural tendency to learn more then one instrument or make the transition easier... then other way around...
Speaking of multi-instrumentalists...part of the success was also the frontman's three-octave vocal range, piano training, rhythm guitar, alto and tenor sax and harps...
quote:Perhaps you just haven't listened to the right sub genre of metal (there are different styles of it) to call it all boring... this is just my guess but I would say you have a pre conceived stereo type of what metal is and sounds like... Give me some examples of what you think metal is... some bands you heard i mean... perhaps I can steer you in the right direction... I been listening to metal since 1983 so I would know more about it... and not for nothing but Metalheads have the most open mind when it comes to music... you would be surprised at some of the other music they listen to that is not metal or rock related... anyone can say any musical genre is boring... but that just shows that the person is not willing to give that style of music a try and are close minded about it... I used to be a total die hard metalhead but you know what? As i grew older I broaden my horizons and tried other musical styles and appreciate alot of music and listen to it (blues, classical, dixie jazz, new age, gypsy, punk, classic rock, latin etc.. etc.)... Like I said us metalheads are more open minded to other music... and if you listened to some metal you can hear jazz, classical, middle eastern etc. influences in their songs especially in the lead guitars...
and, no offense, Mach, but a lot of metal is pretty boring...
quote:We'll I never said Stevie invented playing behind the back... any Stevie fan knows he worshipped Hendrix... What I did say was playing behind the back, while it is showmanship is also difficult to do.
You mentioned Stevie (who of course got the behind-the-back stuff from Hendix)...
quote:Metal guitarists do the same... "spaces" as you call them... your just not paying much attention and I suspect you do not listen or watch the whole vid clips of Metal Guitarists... were not talking about songwriting or structure but about technique... because I can name the best guitarist in terms of "spaces": David Gilmour.. but thats not what this thread is about... but I do understand what you mean... sort of like being in cash instead of a stock position or folding a bad starting hand and waiting for a good starting hand in poker... yo comprendo... but were talking about technique and it's execution and whether guitar is a "real" instrument or not as compared to other instruments.. and whether if it's easy to learn/master or not as compared to other instruments.. etc.. etc...
a lot of what makes Stevie's stuff is as much the notes he *doesn't* hit as those he does... in other words, the spaces and room to breathe...
quote:Thank you very much Mr. Bazooka... you said it quite well.. wish i could make my posts shorter but i get carried away sometimes lol... anyways Jordan, there is your person who plays both and can give a better opinion then you or me.. since you play sax only and i play guitar only... and he plays both... and yes "sweeping" arpeggios are hard as hell... watch the other clips for crazy guitar playing...
Originally posted by Bazooka:
I played the saxophone for about 3-4 years. It is hard to play, hell its even hard to get a good sound out if it sometimes. I've also played the electric guitar for about 5 years now and it sure isn't easy. I've never taken lessons so I don't know any advanced techniques but if you watch the first video and go to 2:28 to 2:30 you will notice a technique called sweeping and it is one of the hardest but coolest things to learn on the guitar. Well I guess my point is the guitar is not easy at all and I don't think any instrument worth while is.
quote:I liked it.. 3/4's of the way.. never heard of him but then again he died early no? .. anyways didn't like the ending when they were playing nonsense.. but before that when he was on the sax..was very good... was in the 60's no? so i wouldn't be surprised if he learned breathing techniques from yoga or something... lungs of steel thats for sure... sax for some reason never does it for me... but I can appreciate his talent...
Originally posted by jordanreed:
watch this and try not to freak out..
circular breathing technique...one breath..
greatness??...I'd say.. i love roland kirk!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jqXYAcVPDD4
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quote:I'll clarify.. it doesn't do it for me like guitar, piano, violin etc.. do it for me.. I guess I like string and keyboard instruments more.. but that's not to say I don't like sax at all.. there's some sax i like like Charlie Parker, the sax playing on floyd albums, sax playing on Eddie and the Cruisers soundtrack etc...
Originally posted by jordanreed:
sax for some reason never does it for me...says mach
aye, and theres the rub
quote:Don't know if he is happy.. he got quiet... perhaps after seeing those clips I posted he probably realizes he can't learn it in 1 year lol ...
Originally posted by T e x:
boy howdy! they all do sumpin' for me...well, except maybe the triangle... especially when it *all comes together* as a band... whooo weeeee...
Anyway, the main point is Upside is happy...he got quite a discussion going
quote:quite the day! thanks andrew!
Originally posted by T e x:
boy howdy! they all do sumpin' for me...well, except maybe the triangle... especially when it *all comes together* as a band... whooo weeeee...
Anyway, the main point is Upside is happy...he got quite a discussion going
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and upside...you know how to push my buttons 
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quote:Just fer grins, what do you think of Dave Sanborn?
Originally posted by jordanreed:
quote:quite the day! thanks andrew!
Originally posted by T e x:
boy howdy! they all do sumpin' for me...well, except maybe the triangle... especially when it *all comes together* as a band... whooo weeeee...
Anyway, the main point is Upside is happy...he got quite a discussion going
think I'll play alittle roland right now..
quote:Nah, that was never the intent Tex. And Mach, I'm really sorry if my opinion upset you, you've brought up some very valid points. I was simply expressing my opinion and as ususal, I managed to piss a whole bunch of people off in doing so.
Originally posted by T e x:
boy howdy! they all do sumpin' for me...well, except maybe the triangle... especially when it *all comes together* as a band... whooo weeeee...
Anyway, the main point is Upside is happy...he got quite a discussion going
quote:I knew you were Tommy Lee in disguise!!!
Originally posted by Upside:
Oh, and just for the record, I can play one hell of a mean cowbell.
quote:Here's one for you that i forgot to post...
Originally posted by retiredat49:
I believe you Machavelli...lol...and yes I do want to see more examples...
Upside...NO ONE can learn to play like these people in 1 or 2 years...in fact MOST people could NEVER learn to play like that...EVER! Only seriously dedicated, extremely talented people can play that well.
I've heard all of these guitarists except for Sharon Isbin...she is damn good! Show me some more...
quote:I always wondered what the name of that song was and who played it...
Originally posted by Machiavelli:
quote:Here's one for you that i forgot to post...
Originally posted by retiredat49:
I believe you Machavelli...lol...and yes I do want to see more examples...
Upside...NO ONE can learn to play like these people in 1 or 2 years...in fact MOST people could NEVER learn to play like that...EVER! Only seriously dedicated, extremely talented people can play that well.
I've heard all of these guitarists except for Sharon Isbin...she is damn good! Show me some more...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zPmbPDhvoDo
quote:I agree Mach...I posted this video on the first page of this thread...
Originally posted by Machiavelli:
probably my favorite by Satriani and his more beautiful one:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dIfu2OCzHPo
quote:Damn I must be asleep... forgot it was on the first page.. it's been a long couple of days.. but anyways certain songs shouldnt have vocals and this one is one of them...
Originally posted by retiredat49:
quote:I agree Mach...I posted this video on the first page of this thread...
Originally posted by Machiavelli:
probably my favorite by Satriani and his more beautiful one:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dIfu2OCzHPo
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quote:Yes easy to play but sometimes easy music can be so more enjoyable then Jazz for instance... I always love blues music... anyways here is something for you Jordan since you like horn instruments... a band i liked in the late 90's:
Originally posted by jordanreed:
got a gig at a grand opening at a biker bar in Diamond Bluff, wisc....maybe Up will be there.
and, naturally..I'll be playin boogie blues..I know..its only blues. easy to play,huh?..
quote:Do it in tighty whitey's or in the nude like Flea from Red Hot Chili Peppers lol
Originally posted by jordanreed:
ad lib..every song. every note..every solo.every song.. make it interesting,, and get the crowd dancin and screamin..all nite long.... and try to make it different.. for 4 hours..easy???? \\
you have no idea.
quote:I like! I've always liked the way Jay Mascis played from Dinosaur Jr.; probably not any1's cup of tea here, but if you can make it to his solo towards the end of this *OLD* song it's worth it...
Originally posted by retiredat49:
Check this guy out...he's like Mason Williams on speed...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX0eTp7SoNU&mode=related&search=
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quote:Steve Morse is a pretty good guitarist.... he was in Kansas as well as his own solo band... he is more like a hired gun then a true member... but I wouldn't consider them Deep Purple without Ritchie Blackmore there.. and you be hard pressed to convince the new generation of metalheads that DP is metal... to them no one in the late 60's to early/mid 70's was metal except Sabbath...
Originally posted by glassman:
this ain't bad:
unless you hate heavy metal...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MSyFA84u48
.... ... it's all good...
quote:yeah it sucked but he still plays with Def Leppard even though he's limited in speed...
Originally posted by glassman:
that was the album that got me to to go their concert..
"burn it up, let's go for broke"...
that really sucked about the drummers accident...
quote:i kinda like that song..never heard of them till now,,
Originally posted by glassman:
some people might consider this hell on earth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gYu13uVL_4