Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, who advised Bush on the Iraq war, said military victory is no longer possible and joined calls for the U.S. government to seek help from Iraq’s regional neighbors— including Iran.
“If you mean, by ‘military victory,’ an Iraqi government that can be established and whose writ runs across the whole country, that gets the civil war under control and sectarian violence under control in a time period that the political processes of the democracies will support, I don’t believe that is possible,” he said on the BBC’s Sunday AM program.
Thousands of protesters march through the streets of Jakarta, Indonesia, on Sunday (Nov. 19), ahead of a visit by Presient Bush. Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
VICTORY NO LONGER POSSIBLE!
So, how many more have to die before we leave?
Posted by bdgee on :
If he'd a just took the time to ask, I coulda told him that before they went into Iraq.
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
I laughed when i saw this one, he could have come on the allstocks board a long time ago and had the pre-news.
Posted by trade04 on :
wiii gonna be a fun news day?
Posted by bond006 on :
Kissinger should know if a war can be won or not. Look at Viet Nam. Lets use that for the classic Republican cut and run example. Bush read a history book you blame the democrats for for cut and run imply they are in bed with the enemy because they don't agree with you. You imply that they are cowardly traitors.
All this you have implied when the last republican to handle a war well was Lincoln.
Posted by Repoman75 on :
Victory is possible if we start using Neutron bombs... but since we won't, I agree.
Posted by bdgee on :
Clearly, you know zilch about neutron bombs.
Posted by bdgee on :
And zilcher about Arabs and Islam.
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
Me too!
quote:Originally posted by bdgee: If he'd a just took the time to ask, I coulda told him that before they went into Iraq.
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by bdgee: And zilcher about Arabs and Islam.
I know if we drop 100 neutron bombs on Arabs, Islam won't be a problem.
Posted by bdgee on :
So, you prove my point.
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by bdgee: So, you prove my point.
Liberal pinko pascifist. Go back to eating your vegetables on Thanksgiving instead of Turkey like a real man.
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
"Liberal pinkos" just took your party down, Repoman75.
You must be doing something wrong, fascist. Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by Gordon Bennett: "Liberal pinkos" just took your party down, Repoman75.
You must be doing something wrong, fascist.
I'm not a Republican nor a George Bush fan. And I never supported the original invasion of Iraq.
Ok, let that sink in....
HOWEVER, now that we're there, I say eradicate every living thing from Iran to Egypt. Neutron bombs for Allah. Then we'll see what's what.
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
So when are you leaving for Iraq, Repoman75?
Posted by bond006 on :
O My God I can't believe what I am reading
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
Repoman75 is just a common racist coward. No surprise there...
Posted by bdgee on :
Yep, and hopelessly ignorant about neutorn bombs, among a list of other things (like political affiliations).
He's into labeling and name calling, which belies his claim to not be a republivan.
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by Gordon Bennett: So when are you leaving for Iraq, Repoman75?
I'm not racist, I just wish to eradicate the enemies of the U.S., just like we almost did to the Japanese or Germans. If they didn't surrender, oh well... BUH BYE. Just like we don't see any Carthaginians walking around today...hmmm.
And I'd go if they gave me a B-52 with neutron bombs. Why should I go with 1 arm tied behind my back?
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
You know what Repo? I think you're right.
We should also lock up our children until they are 21. That'll stop teenage pregnancy right there!
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by The Bigfoot: You know what Repo? I think you're right.
We should also lock up our children until they are 21. That'll stop teenage pregnancy right there!
That would yes, but I think kids need to have fun.... now, if we could only invent temporary neutering...
Posted by bdgee on :
The word is reactionary and what you have is an acute case of it, tempered by absolutely no reason or knowledge.
As to your "desire" to wipe out our enemies, might as well soak the world in a 50/50 mixture of clordane and DDT, since fleas bite. Then we can watch life on earth disappear when "other" bugs that are helpful and needed have been wiped out and are not there to serve their part of ecosystem.
As to your eagerness to set off a neutron bomb, maybe you better do a bit of research and find out if there ever has been such a reaction.
Knowledge is a powerful tool.
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by bdgee: The word is reactionary and what you have is an acute case of it, tempered by absolutely no reason or knowledge.
As to your "desire" to wipe out our enemies, might as well soak the world in a 50/50 mixture of clordane and DDT, since fleas bite. Then we can watch life on earth disappear when "other" bugs that are helpful and needed have been wiped out and are not there to serve their part of ecosystem.
As to your eagerness to set off a neutron bomb, maybe you better do a bit of research and find out if there ever has been such a reaction.
Knowledge is a powerful tool.
I just like ending nonsense today to enjoy tomorrow.
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
So you are ok with the idea of sniping Falwell and Robertson then right?
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by The Bigfoot: So you are ok with the idea of sniping Falwell and Robertson then right?
Sniping? I don't advocate the killing of Americans, however, I do believe religion of any kind should be outlawed by US Government in all public signs, displays, mottos, etc.
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
Ah...so there are *qualifications* that must be met to be defined as nonsense. The first one being..."does not apply to Americans"?
LOL Repo. Can't have your cake and eat it too bud. Either nonsense is applicable to all and should be dealt with by "any means" as you are advocating or nonsense isn't applicable to all and you label yourself a classist and racially prejudiced.
Your choice.
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
Hiroshima aftermath
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
This is what Repoman75 suggests we do to civilians, women and children whose governments don't surrender to US ideologies. (What a pig.)
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by Gordon Bennett: This is what Repoman75 suggests we do to civilians, women and children whose governments don't surrender to US ideologies. (What a pig.)
Yep. And then salt the Earth. AND then turn the place into the next Cancun where American teenagers can drink and get laid.
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
quote:Originally posted by Gordon Bennett: I hope they come for you soon, Repoman75...
Who is they? The Barbarians? They are coming! What the hell do you think 9-11 was !?!? A Xmas party evite????
And when they come, I'll shoot as many as I can with my Russian made SKS and Remington 2 barrel off the back of my porch as they come running across my lawn... BLAM BLAM BLAM.
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by Gordon Bennett: I hope they come for you soon, Repoman75...
What are you, an Englishman or something?? Some washed up country that used to be #1, now, just the COLONY of the U.S. for its goods?
Useless.
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
Of course you will, Repoman75, that's what a coward does. If you were a real man you'd go fight them.
quote:Originally posted by Repoman75: And when they come, I'll shoot as many as I can with my Russian made SKS and Remington 2 barrel off the back of my porch as they come running across my lawn... BLAM BLAM BLAM.
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
chicken hawk n.
1. Any of various hawks that prey on or have the reputation of preying on chickens. 2. often chick·en·hawk (chĭk'ən-hôk') Informal. A person who favors military force or action to carry out a foreign policy but has never served in the military. 3. Vulgar Slang. A man who seeks out boys or young men as his sexual partners.
See also: Repoman75 Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
More Chickenhawks...
* George W. Bush: failed to complete his six-year National Guard; got assigned to Alabama so he could campaign for family friend running for U.S. Senate; failed to show up for required medical exam, disappeared from duty. * Dick Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by marriage. * Dennis Hastert: did not serve. * Tom Delay: did not serve. * Roy Blunt: did not serve. * Bill Frist: did not serve. * Mitch McConnell: did not serve. * Rick Santorum: did not serve. * Trent Lott: did not serve. * John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business. * Jeb Bush: did not serve. * Karl Rove: did not serve. * Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee." (The man who attacked Max Cleland's patriotism!) * Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve. * Vin Weber: did not serve. * Richard Perle: did not serve. * Douglas Feith: did not serve. * Eliot Abrams: did not serve. * Richard Shelby: did not serve. * Jon Kyl: did not serve. * Tim Hutchison: did not serve. * Christopher Cox: did not serve. * Newt Gingrich: did not serve. * Phil Gramm: did not serve. * Dana Rohrabacher: did not serve. * John M. McHugh: did not serve. * JC Watts: did not serve. * Jack Kemp: did not serve. "Knee problem," although continued in NFL for 8 years. * Rudy Giuliani: did not serve. * George Pataki: did not serve. * Spencer Abraham: did not serve. * John Engler: did not serve. * Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army base. * Sean Hannity: did not serve. * Rush Limbaugh: did not serve (4-F with a 'pilonidal cyst.') * Bill O'Reilly: did not serve. * Michael Savage: did not serve. * George Will: did not serve. * Chris Matthews: did not serve. * Paul Gigot: did not serve. * Bill Bennett: did not serve. * Pat Buchanan: did not serve. * Bill Kristol: did not serve. * Kenneth Starr: did not serve. * Antonin Scalia: did not serve. * Clarence Thomas: did not serve. * Ralph Reed: did not serve. * Michael Medved: did not serve. * Charlie Daniels: did not serve. * Ted Nugent: did not serve. * John Wayne: did not serve.
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by Gordon Bennett: chicken hawk n.
1. Any of various hawks that prey on or have the reputation of preying on chickens. 2. often chick·en·hawk (chĭk'ən-hôk') Informal. A person who favors military force or action to carry out a foreign policy but has never served in the military. 3. Vulgar Slang. A man who seeks out boys or young men as his sexual partners.
See also: Repoman75
YAWN. You bore me Englishman. Just remember, if it wasn't for us, you'd be wearing a swastika on your arm.
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
Pipe down, chicken hawk.
More Chickenhawks...
* George W. Bush: failed to complete his six-year National Guard; got assigned to Alabama so he could campaign for family friend running for U.S. Senate; failed to show up for required medical exam, disappeared from duty. * Dick Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by marriage. * Dennis Hastert: did not serve. * Tom Delay: did not serve. * Roy Blunt: did not serve. * Bill Frist: did not serve. * Mitch McConnell: did not serve. * Rick Santorum: did not serve. * Trent Lott: did not serve. * John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business. * Jeb Bush: did not serve. * Karl Rove: did not serve. * Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee." (The man who attacked Max Cleland's patriotism!) * Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve. * Vin Weber: did not serve. * Richard Perle: did not serve. * Douglas Feith: did not serve. * Eliot Abrams: did not serve. * Richard Shelby: did not serve. * Jon Kyl: did not serve. * Tim Hutchison: did not serve. * Christopher Cox: did not serve. * Newt Gingrich: did not serve. * Phil Gramm: did not serve. * Dana Rohrabacher: did not serve. * John M. McHugh: did not serve. * JC Watts: did not serve. * Jack Kemp: did not serve. "Knee problem," although continued in NFL for 8 years. * Rudy Giuliani: did not serve. * George Pataki: did not serve. * Spencer Abraham: did not serve. * John Engler: did not serve. * Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army base. * Sean Hannity: did not serve. * Rush Limbaugh: did not serve (4-F with a 'pilonidal cyst.') * Bill O'Reilly: did not serve. * Michael Savage: did not serve. * George Will: did not serve. * Chris Matthews: did not serve. * Paul Gigot: did not serve. * Bill Bennett: did not serve. * Pat Buchanan: did not serve. * Bill Kristol: did not serve. * Kenneth Starr: did not serve. * Antonin Scalia: did not serve. * Clarence Thomas: did not serve. * Ralph Reed: did not serve. * Michael Medved: did not serve. * Charlie Daniels: did not serve. * Ted Nugent: did not serve. * John Wayne: did not serve.
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
Says the man with the swastika on his speak.
Take out "Jew"... insert "Arab Islamic" into one of Hitler's speeches if you don't get my meaning.
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
Excellent point.
Posted by Repoman75 on :
Alright Bigfoot. For your sake, I hope the Islamist Fascists crash a plane onto your house next.
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
You've been listening to the AM talk radio morons for too long, Repoman75.
Remember...
* Sean Hannity: did not serve. * Rush Limbaugh: did not serve. * Bill O'Reilly: did not serve. * Michael Savage: did not serve. * George Will: did not serve. * Chris Matthews: did not serve. * Paul Gigot: did not serve. * Bill Bennett: did not serve. * Pat Buchanan: did not serve. * John Wayne: did not serve. * Bill Kristol: did not serve. * Kenneth Starr: did not serve. * Antonin Scalia: did not serve. * Clarence Thomas: did not serve. * Ralph Reed: did not serve. * Michael Medved: did not serve. * Charlie Daniels: did not serve. * Ted Nugent: did not serve. (He only shoots at things that can't shoot back.)
Posted by bdgee on :
He's big on belittling people instead of offering counter arguments..........the stuff of the KKK and other similar "right" thinking people.
(Actually, "right thinking", in the political sense and the sense of nuking people, for any reason, is an oxymoron.)
Posted by Repoman75 on :
YAAAAAAAAAAAWN.
Well, hopefully when America does fall, you're people are the first ones killed.
Posted by Repoman75 on :
And what point is there to argue? You guys are like old women... no points whatsoever.
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
Perhaps Repoman75's parents put him in one of those Jesus Camps and he's socially retarded as a result.
He's so backwards, I kind of feel sorry for him.
Posted by bdgee on :
It it very very tempting to correct some English, but I shant.
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
Hmmm...that brings to light an interesting question...
If a Islamic fascist crashes a plane in a forest and only the Bigfoot hears...does it really make a sound?
Repo...Bin Laden and his band of merry men are the ones your anger should be directed towards. Not the region as a whole. You wanna kill Bin Laden...go for it. Won't hear complaints from me.
You wanna decimate the cradle of life and eradicate anyone with skin the color of Jesus’ real skin color...I got a little something to say about that.
Posted by Repoman75 on :
quote:Originally posted by The Bigfoot: Hmmm...that brings to light an interesting question...
If a Islamic fascist crashes a plane in a forest and only the Bigfoot hears...does it really make a sound?
Repo...Bin Laden and his band of merry men are the ones your anger should be directed towards. Not the region as a whole. You wanna kill Bin Laden...go for it. Won't hear complaints from me.
You wanna decimate the cradle of life and eradicate anyone with skin the color of Jesus’ real skin color...I got a little something to say about that.
I wish to eradicate the enemies of the US. Oh, protesters in IRan burning US FLags? NUKE EM. Palestinians celebrating on 9-11? NUKE EM.
Period.
Posted by jordanreed on :
the U.S.of A. makes its own enemies...
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
I have a lot more understanding for protesters in Iran burning the U.S. flag than I do protesters across the street from the White House doing the same thing.
Besides...They burn the flag and chant down with America.
You say Nuke em all and let God sort it out.
Two Sides. Same Coin. You and they have much in common.
Posted by bdgee on :
Agreed, Big.....
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
Yep.
Ideologically speaking, Repoman75 = Osama bin Laden
Each a sociopathic coward who would let others do his dirty work for him.
Posted by bdgee on :
I didagree, Gordon.
I think BenLaden carefully thinks through things to reach his conclusions. He just starts with a false premiss and thus, reaches a false conclusion.
Repo only has a false premiss and uses that as all of his conclusions.
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