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Posted by glassman on :
 
i quit (again) LOL...

no wonder it's been harder this time..

US Cigarettes Have 10% More Nicotine Today Than Six Years Ago

All tobacco brands have been increasing the nicotine dosage in each cigarette steadily during the last six years, says a report from the Massachusetts Department of Public Health. The overall increase has been about 10% during 1998-2004. The higher the nicotine dose, the more hooked you get - it is much more difficult to quit.
Marlboro, the most popular brand, has been steadily raising the dosage in each cigarette. Kool, a popular menthol brand, has had its nicotine dose increased by 20% in six years. Over 60% of African-American smokers consume menthol brands.

 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
lol, I just started back a month ago. Finals were getting to me and I decided I'd wait till I was through with the nursing program.

It is nasty and costly. I feel like I have no right lecturing folks to quit for their health when I'm ruining mine.

Nice start glassman and congrats.

Nice article. I smoke marlboro myself. Military got me started.

We should get compensated for the manufacturers intentionally raising the nicotine to keep us addicted!
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
reefer works much better [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Ace of Spades on :
 
The Bible says "the body is the temple of god" We should keep it holy...that's what led me to quit many bad habits, including New Port 100's.
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ace of Spades:
The Bible says "the body is the temple of god" We should keep it holy...that's what led me to quit many bad habits, including New Port 100's.

yeah but i believe many people take that wrong , kuz god created the plants in the first place , and there good fer sumthin [Big Grin] . and if yer gonna go that far we need to look at coffee , overeating , not exerciseing, chocolate , salt ,margirane , bacon , and a host of other things , that would take all day to list [Cool]
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
i wish i could just smoke like two,three cigs a day...

that don't work for me tho..
some people can...
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
well the way i look at it , is when yer ticket expires , it don't matter if yer ridin in a car ,plane ,train , school bus , playin golf, fishin ,er smokin ,, when yer time comes thats it , nothin u do can change it , set aside suicide , but that there is when yer time is up too
 
Posted by Ace of Spades on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
quote:
Originally posted by Ace of Spades:
The Bible says "the body is the temple of god" We should keep it holy...that's what led me to quit many bad habits, including New Port 100's.

yeah but i believe many people take that wrong , kuz god created the plants in the first place , and there good fer sumthin [Big Grin] . and if yer gonna go that far we need to look at coffee , overeating , not exerciseing, chocolate , salt ,margirane , bacon , and a host of other things , that would take all day to list [Cool]
You're right God's origianl diet for man was fruits, veggies, and raw nuts. There's a story from the book Daniel...

The Story: Daniel 1:1-21

When King Nebuchadnezzar besieged the city of Jerusalem, thousands of Jews were taken away captive to Babylon. The king instructed his servant, Ashpenaz, to select gifted young men from among the Jewish captives who would come to the palace for three years to learn the language and wisdom of Babylon so they could serve the king.

Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah caught the attention of Ashpenaz and were taken to the king's palace. But there was a problem. The menu of rich meat and wine appointed for the young men contained many items forbidden by God's Word.

Without wanting to appear ungrateful, Daniel asked if he and his three friends could be given a vegetarian diet to eat and water to drink. At first the king's servant resisted their request. "You can't stay healthy by eating like that!" he exclaimed. "You'd get sick, and then the king would have my head." But Daniel gently persisted, suggesting a trial period of 10 days, after which their visible health could be compared with the young men who ate from the royal cafeteria.

This plan was agreed upon, and for 10 days the four young Hebrews drank water and ate a simple vegetarian diet. At the end of the trial period, Daniel and his three friends "appeared fairer and fatter in flesh than all the children which did eat the portion of the king's meat." Daniel 1:15.

Three years later, these four young men were tested by King Nebuchadnezzar, and it was declared they were 10 times brighter then all the wise men in Babylon. The Bible tells us that Daniel lived to be approximately 100 years old. What helped give Daniel and his friends such profound wisdom, health, and long life?

Another interesting fact is God first allowed meat after the Great Flood, which is when Man's Life Expectancy dropped dramatically.
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
there agina u forgot to tel about the sheet full of meat and other critters that was let down out of heaven to sumbody i forget who it was at the time , and god asked are u to good to eat the things i have created?
 
Posted by Ace of Spades on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
there agina u forgot to tel about the sheet full of meat and other critters that was let down out of heaven to sumbody i forget who it was at the time , and god asked are u to good to eat the things i have created?

what are you talking about?
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
i wish i could just smoke like two,three cigs a day...

that don't work for me tho..
some people can...

Have you tried the patch, lozenges, or gum? I liked the lozenges quite well.
 
Posted by Sunnyside on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
i wish i could just smoke like two,three cigs a day...

that don't work for me tho..
some people can...

Have you tried the patch, lozenges, or gum? I liked the lozenges quite well.
I've tried many, many times myself. The only time it lasted the longest I used blow pops. As silly as it sounds it provides the same physical behavior (hand to mouth), the oral thing, and it keeps you busy long enough to distract you from wanting the cigarette.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
yep...
i like the lozenges best, pop two or three 4 mg ones and bite down... much better than the four patches, one on each temple and one on each jugular [Big Grin] JK...

they help alot...

what burns me up is that the govt has taken the tobacco co's to court and won, and then basically done nothing to make the alternatives cheaper...

IMO? the patches and gum and lozenges should be subsidized by the tobacco co's
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
There are no formulas or substitutes or shortcuts.

What works is blunt simple determination and will power.

Good luck to you.
 
Posted by Ace of Spades on :
 
I think the only thing that works, is will power.

You have to have a good enough reason to quit. Which there are many. Also Just thought that somebody is getting rich off of me, just so I can fill my lungs with smoke, pretty much makeing me their B#tch, is good enough of a reason for me not to smoke.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
like marlboro...i smoke reds. i got into chain smoking back when i was in iraq..is was all i had to calm me from a sickening adrenaline rush.

now i smoke...oh a pack every 3 days and that is with bumming smokes out to my friends each day
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
yep...
i like the lozenges best, pop two or three 4 mg ones and bite down... much better than the four patches, one on each temple and one on each jugular JK...
ROFLOL under yer arms bottoms of feet all over cheast
 
Posted by rkitch on :
 
CashCowMoo. Just had to reply to what you just said. And also about glassman and government funding. You starting smoking in Iraq. Guess what, when I was 18, three weeks out of High School, they snatched my young a-- up, sent me to Viet Nam, and the government was so kind to us that they furnished free cigs. To keep the habit going, they were 10 cents a pack at the BX. It is my understanding now that the young men/women in our most current war are getting hooked on nicotine. What ashame.
 
Posted by trade04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
i wish i could just smoke like two,three cigs a day...

that don't work for me tho..
some people can...

i've noticed people need a reason to stop...like say smoking causes ED...that would make almost every man quit...
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
look here yall , there are alot worse things than smokin , just look at the side effects of 90% of the legal chemical drugs out there that they advertise on tv all the time , smogs have low side effects compared to them
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by trade04:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
i wish i could just smoke like two,three cigs a day...

that don't work for me tho..
some people can...

i've noticed people need a reason to stop...like say smoking causes ED...that would make almost every man quit...
naaaa just take some viagra LOL [Big Grin]
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
like say smoking causes ED...that would make almost every man quit...

but it doesn't [Razz]

i just don't feel like waiting till i have no choice...
 
Posted by trade04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
well the way i look at it , is when yer ticket expires , it don't matter if yer ridin in a car ,plane ,train , school bus , playin golf, fishin ,er smokin ,, when yer time comes thats it , nothin u do can change it , set aside suicide , but that there is when yer time is up too

so you believe in destiny. I'm not very religious let me say. i believe one can prolong their life by staying away from dangerous things..so if you were eaten alive by sharks youd be thinking, well! guess my ticket expired...?lol....no way I would swim with sharks....therefore my ticket might last a little longer...you know what im trying to say?
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by trade04:
quote:
Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
well the way i look at it , is when yer ticket expires , it don't matter if yer ridin in a car ,plane ,train , school bus , playin golf, fishin ,er smokin ,, when yer time comes thats it , nothin u do can change it , set aside suicide , but that there is when yer time is up too

so you believe in destiny. I'm not very religious let me say. i believe one can prolong their life by staying away from dangerous things..so if you were eaten alive by sharks youd be thinking, well! guess my ticket expired...?lol....no way I would swim with sharks....therefore my ticket might last a little longer...you know what im trying to say?
so u don't drive a car or fly , er get in a boat , er go hiking etc. all those things are potnially dangerous . and on the shark u don't go to the beach , i fish/catch sharks all the time at the beach so i know sharks are there , and i get in the same water nad so do a bunch of other people. if yer ticket ain't expired , there not gonna be hungery and/or u ain't bleedin. now i didn't say i could jump off the space needle and land upright in good condiction , but I AIN'T SKEERED of death because when yer ticket expires , it's all over LOL [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ace of Spades:
quote:
Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
there agina u forgot to tel about the sheet full of meat and other critters that was let down out of heaven to sumbody i forget who it was at the time , and god asked are u to good to eat the things i have created?

what are you talking about?
acts 10: 9-16 [Big Grin]
 
Posted by rimasco on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ace of Spades:
The Bible says "the body is the temple of god" We should keep it holy...that's what led me to quit many bad habits, including New Port 100's.

I am keepin it holy..now im smokin through the holy in my neck
 
Posted by Ace of Spades on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rimasco:
quote:
Originally posted by Ace of Spades:
The Bible says "the body is the temple of god" We should keep it holy...that's what led me to quit many bad habits, including New Port 100's.

I am keepin it holy..now im smokin through the holy in my neck
That's awesome! LOL [Big Grin]
 
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
 
I'm a smoker...have been for a long time. (Not Tex long... [Smile] but still) I can quit for 6 months or so at a time but all it takes is one weak night at the bar or the poker table and I'm hooked again. Health reasons just ain't good enough of a reason. They aren't compelling.

It makes no sense to me to be afraid of death. Death is the state of unbeing. It is nothing...why be afraid of very *literally* nothing.

If you are a religious man believe that God won't let you go until he is done with you and remember that Christ will dwell in the lowliest temple should it be dedicated to him. (good thing too or we'd all be screwed smoking or no.)

If you aren't a religious man then come to terms that as much as we control our environment(however poorly) our lives are completely uncontrolable by us. Do not mourn the dead for they are undone. As well mourn the child that has yet to be conceived. Instead mourn your selfish loss of one you cared for. No shame there. And no reason to fear either.

Personal opinions.

Bigfoot
 
Posted by Ace of Spades on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
quote:
Originally posted by Ace of Spades:
quote:
Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
there agina u forgot to tel about the sheet full of meat and other critters that was let down out of heaven to sumbody i forget who it was at the time , and god asked are u to good to eat the things i have created?

what are you talking about?
acts 10: 9-16 [Big Grin]
Thanks for the Verse. That actually has nothing to do with food. At first Peter didn't understand either. You have to read the whole story.

If you read on What god meant was that he even accepts the repentence of gentiles.


4Peter began and explained everything to them precisely as it had happened: 5"I was in the city of Joppa praying, and in a trance I saw a vision. I saw something like a large sheet being let down from heaven by its four corners, and it came down to where I was. 6I looked into it and saw four-footed animals of the earth, wild beasts, reptiles, and birds of the air. 7Then I heard a voice telling me, 'Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.'

8"I replied, 'Surely not, Lord! Nothing impure or unclean has ever entered my mouth.'

9"The voice spoke from heaven a second time, 'Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.' 10This happened three times, and then it was all pulled up to heaven again.

11"Right then three men who had been sent to me from Caesarea stopped at the house where I was staying. 12The Spirit told me to have no hesitation about going with them. These six brothers also went with me, and we entered the man's house. 13He told us how he had seen an angel appear in his house and say, 'Send to Joppa for Simon who is called Peter. 14He will bring you a message through which you and all your household will be saved.'


15"As I began to speak, the Holy Spirit came on them as he had come on us at the beginning. 16Then I remembered what the Lord had said: 'John baptized with[a]water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.' 17So if God gave them the same gift as he gave us, who believed in the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I to think that I could oppose God?"

18When they heard this, they had no further objections and praised God, saying, "So then, God has granted even the Gentiles repentance unto life."

[ August 30, 2006, 22:03: Message edited by: Ace of Spades ]
 
Posted by Tigress on :
 
For those who wish they could quit smoking but have not been successful, ask your doctors about a medication called Zyban.
 
Posted by jordanreed on :
 
smoking may take a few years off your life, but its at the END of your life, so its no big deal.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
I hate the patch, tastes like chit. My Camels on the other hand are full of flavor, all 40 a day, mmmm mmm good.
 
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
 
LOL jim,

Ya ever fall asleep with a fresh patch on? Whoa!!! Now those are crazy-as* dreams! It's like brain candy for your subconscious self.

You don't sleep well and I've heard it isn't good for you so I wouldn't suggest doing it on purpose though.

Hey tigress, enjoy your stars...looked over your past posts and decided you deserved em. Stop by more often and say hi...the board needs people who can stick to the facts.

BF
 
Posted by rimasco on :
 
How much you guys paying for smokes....Im paying north of 7 bucks for a pack......INSANE ADDICTON
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
$4.55 a pack, but if you buy the promaotional buy 2 get one free packages they are $5.40 a pack. Doesn't make any sense I know, probably because each pack costs the manufacturer $1.70 to make or something like that.
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
holy smokes where are yall gettin them smogs i thought 2.39 fer reds er camels was high. , thats when i started rollin my own , of course with filtered tubes , they as good er better than a red , , i end up right at .70 per pack , less i have acoupon then it's .55 per pack [Big Grin]
 
Posted by trade04 on :
 
in miami we pay 3.60-3.75 for a pack of marlboros.
 
Posted by trade04 on :
 
anyways Cigs aint doing it for me anymore. just feels so self destructive, with minimal pleasure. stick to the greens if anything. so far im almost a week tobacco-free, and i don't even miss it.

but i've been haviung dreams about cigarettes. like 2 days ago i had one that i took a puff and i was like aw f%^* then i stopped. then last night i had adream that i lit up the cigarette and clipped it to the ash tray...by the time i came back to it it was burnt out (like in constantine lol)
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Bigfoot:
LOL jim,

Ya ever fall asleep with a fresh patch on? Whoa!!! Now those are crazy-as* dreams! It's like brain candy for your subconscious self.

You don't sleep well and I've heard it isn't good for you so I wouldn't suggest doing it on purpose though.

Hey tigress, enjoy your stars...looked over your past posts and decided you deserved em. Stop by more often and say hi...the board needs people who can stick to the facts.

BF

Try this once. Put a fresh patch on, smoke a camel no filter and chew a whole pack of nicotine gum all at once. Chances are you'll die but if not you'll get kind of a "floating" sensation.
 
Posted by rimasco on :
 
Hey trade you familiar with Chris Paciello?
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
lol, I used to chain smoke with a dip of copenhagen in the cheek.
Can't smoke at night because of thermals and nightsights. Showed up like rockets with red glare.
 
Posted by turbokid on :
 
besides the fact the cigarette smoke smells like ass... watching 3 of my grandparents die from emphysema..(one just last week, thats 3 for 3 from tobacco for me )was enough for me to never even pick one up..

by the way when they say, "oh hell your gonna die anyways" believe me when i say you do not want to die from emphysema, its not like your healthy and then just dont wake up, you spend years and years choking coughing and having trouble breathing, all three of my grandparents spent the last several years of thier lives strapped to an oxygen tank and breathed like they just ran a marathon while breathing through a coffee straw.

investors should be the best and looking ahead into the future.. you know the right thing to do..

please quit guys its a horrible death..!!
 
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
 
Sorry to break it to ya kid but there are very few pleasant ways to die. That said...don't pick em up if you have a choice. Isn't worth it.

Besides...most girlies don't like boys that smell like ass. LOL
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
hey turbo..

been awhile...

sorry to hear of your loss..
hope all is well for you otherwise
that's pretty much my reason for giving it up...
 
Posted by The Bigfoot on :
 
eh...I'm still pissy cause a that dam* crap movie they made.

My condolences as well turbo. Don't mind this grouchy bag o fluff. Inconsiderate of me to post like that after your loss.

BF
 
Posted by turbokid on :
 
no worries guys thanks for the kind words..

now if i can only convice my mom dad and younger brother to give it up.. its crazy how they see the suffering of their relatives and keep it up..

good ol' turbo is doing just fine otherwise... check out the chart for silver for the last few months ... and SYY for the last month.. im putting along nicely.. [Smile]
 
Posted by bond006 on :
 
My own story is I smoked from 17 to 55 and December 28,2004 I threw my last cig out and i have never looked back. It was one of the hardest things I have had to do.

The last 10 years I was a 2 pack a day person and I never felt good.

My advice is to anybody stop stop stop smoking never start.

Life is much better with out that weed. And I do believe people should join an anti smoking organization so we can stop these drug dealers from selling death.
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
It is not the same with everyone.

I smoked heavily at times for years. I don't remember when it was that I last smoked. A dozen years, at least. One day I smoked, a day later I didn't, and a day more and I have never thought much about it again.

I had quit several times previously with equal ease and I feel certain I could take up smoking again and stop as easily another time. That is a worse situation, you see, since quitting is so easy, starting again is also.
 


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