Yes I know the power ballad ruined heavy metal, much to my chagrin. My favorite band, AC/DC stayed loyal to the heavy metal genre, but many metal groups went for the money and recorded.... the power ballad. A loose definition would be a heavy metal, or I will accept hair metal band, that recorded a love song with an electric guitar solo in the middle. Now this song had one purpose, to draw women to heavy metal, and to prove that metal performers had a sensitive side. The debate rages as to who is directly responsible to this dark blotch on humanity. Some say Home Sweet Home was first. Other's say Van Halen's jump, complete with synthesizer, was the trend setter.
My vote: Home Sweet Home - Motley Crue
Others that were popular: Still of the Night - White Snake Every Rose - Poison
Please post your favorite, or just one you remember being popular.
Posted by jordanreed on :
james Gang
pink floyd
Deep Purple
Uriah Heap
Black Sabbath
Savoy Brown
Spooky Tooth
Allman Brothers
Cocker
Joplin
Doors
all of these did Your so called power ballads
csny
more??..these were the some of the ones that started it...
could probably go back further
elvis
jerry lee
box tops
temps
shirells
more..???
maybe these were the forrunners of that crappy heavy metal...dont know..I'm prolly way off base.. I'm sure you had something else in mind..huh?
Posted by Griffon on :
Whitesnake's "Still of the Night"
not a great band but a great song
Posted by Griffon on :
oops that's not a ballad sorry wrong number
Posted by john wayne on :
Well I'm not sure Jordan if we are connecting here because some of your groups I've not heard of.
But let me give you an example. Let's take a song like Elvis's "I can't help Falling in love with you"
It would be like Black Sabbath performing that song, but putting a big guitar solo in the middle, maybe like the solo in Iron Man or Paranoid.
Posted by T e x on :
I'd say James Gang "Walk Away" in there, for sure...
Yardbyrds laid the groundwork, the "New Yardbyrds" set the standard...
Posted by jordanreed on :
zackly...cept maybe it wouldnt be sabbath doin elvis' song,cuz that would be a cover..
it would be elvis (a rock n roller) doin a ballad,,,with some screamin guitar solo in the middle
Posted by jordanreed on :
Tex..youre an old man!!
Posted by john wayne on :
Guys.... I must confess, don't know one James Gang song off the top of my head.
Posted by Griffon on :
"Layla" from Eric Clapton both the song and the story behind it has got to be the coolest power ballad
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by jordanreed: Tex..youre an old man!!
you have no idea...
I remember when Roy Bean first showed up down here...
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
'All The Young Dudes' by Mott The Hoople is a good one.
Posted by jordanreed on :
quote:Originally posted by Gordon Bennett: 'All The Young Dudes' by Mott The Hoople is a good one.
you just gave me goose bumps, Gordon...
you're a man after my own heart..
That song has got to be one of my all time favorites...
Bought the album when it first came out and was hooked on "Mott"...
come to think of it...Wasnt David Bowie playin sax on that?..I'll have to check..
not that one..but i think he played sax on "all the way to Memphis"...I'll let you know later...if youre interested...that kind of stuff is what i love to find out
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
These young fellers do not have a clue as to what real "Rock and Roll" was live..
Music today comes out of a can...yuck, no class.
Animals House of the rising sun...
Door's Come baby light my fire The End
Crosby Stills and Nash Live 1969 can't remember to much about that one, think I was in Hawaii at Diamond Head Crater for the concert..LOL
Posted by jordanreed on :
yup...aint it the truth..
house of the rising sun was a great way to learn how to jam...
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
Hey jordon, do you refrain from laughter when ya see all these wanna bee Harley bikers?
Damn man, where are the Hard Tails? running these guys riding Harleys in white shorts and pretty little shirts off the road!! LMAO
Posted by 66inxs on :
support 81 dusty. btw, 38 special and yes had some good stuff. even great white imho. jordan provided an excellent list also.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by john wayne: Guys.... I must confess, don't know one James Gang song off the top of my head.
Their "heyday" was when they had a guitarist you may know from other work....
'All The Young Dudes' by Mott The Hoople is a good one."
Great stuff one and all
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
War- Fits many posts. Edwin Starr-Temptations
You've Lost that Lovin'Fellin' Righteous Brothers
Posted by Sunnyside on :
Guns N Roses - Sweet Child of Mine
Whitesnake - Is this love
Posted by MagicK on :
Rock Power Ballad groups.
Journey
Reo Speedwagon
Posted by Up on :
quote:Originally posted by MagicK: Rock Power Ballad groups.
Journey
Reo Speedwagon
Yep, as far as pop power ballad groups go, REO couldn't be beat in their heyday. "Roll With The Changes" might be the ultimate ballad.
Posted by Up on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by john wayne: Guys.... I must confess, don't know one James Gang song off the top of my head.
Their "heyday" was when they had a guitarist you may know from other work....
Joe Walsh. One of my all time favorites. Ever hear "The Confessor" he did on a solo album? Talk about a speaker blower, that's it.
Posted by T e x on :
Back in the day? Had a hot-rod 1/2 ton chevy with Quad 8-track! wooo-hooo.... Seems like I wore out "Rocky Mountain Way"
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
This is a little off topic but i heard the group the Strokes sing a song and their lead singer sounded a lot like Jim Morrison.
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
That's one of the great ones...
It's so sad what has happened to music. The lyrics are crap; the recordings are computerized loops, designed to end up as background music for a Volkswagen ad. Every vocalist is autotuned, every groove quantized, every singer apparently from the same annoying Whitney Houston vocal school. The new "artists" are chosen for sex appeal over talent.
A real artist like Neil Young wouldn't have a chance if he were starting out today.
Also, remember what buying a record used to feel like? Peeling the shrink wrap off, putting the stylus on it for the first time, cranking it up...
Bliss.
quote:Originally posted by jordanreed:
quote:Originally posted by Gordon Bennett: 'All The Young Dudes' by Mott The Hoople is a good one.
you just gave me goose bumps, Gordon...
you're a man after my own heart..
That song has got to be one of my all time favorites...
Bought the album when it first came out and was hooked on "Mott"...
come to think of it...Wasnt David Bowie playin sax on that?..I'll have to check..
not that one..but i think he played sax on "all the way to Memphis"...I'll let you know later...if youre interested...that kind of stuff is what i love to find out
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
If success had anything to do with looks in the 60's can you imagine where Mick Jagger and Bob Dylan would have been.
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
Exactly. Art and music have parted ways now.
Posted by glassman on :
can't believe nobody posted Judas Priest for power...
Posted by jordanreed on :
bout ten years ago I played sax on a local album... I played a solo that i thought was a little flat..
I wanted to do it again, but the engineer said it was fine cuz he could adjust the pitch to make it perfect,,,
its a little sad really...
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
Rod Stewart was on Larry King a while back. He stated, matter-of-factly that with today's technology anyone can be a singer. It's true. Ever heard Pink or Janet Jackson sing without an Antares (realtime pitch corrector) on their vocal feed? They can't sing in tune at all!
Posted by jordanreed on :
ya know..i gotta say that i just found my old Mott the hoople album and Andy Mackay played sax,not David Bowie...Damn!! wrong again..
but while looking ,i found --Cream.. "wheels of Fire"
nother good one
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
Ooooh yeah. Nice!
Posted by jordanreed on :
quote:Originally posted by Gordon Bennett: Rod Stewart was on Larry King a while back. He stated, matter-of-factly that with today's technology anyone can be a singer. It's true. Ever heard Pink or Janet Jackson sing without an Antares (realtime pitch corrector) on their vocal feed? They can't sing in tune at all!
ya...how bout Ashley fricken Simpson?
what a joke!!
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by jordanreed: ya know..i gotta say that i just found my old Mott the hoople album and Andy Mackay played sax,not David Bowie...Damn!! wrong again..
but while looking ,i found --Cream.. "wheels of Fire"
nother good one
not a power ballad, but have we discussed the trivia, "Who played guitar on Bowie's China Girl and album/tour, same period?"
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
Yes. These days you're only considered an "artist" if enough teenagers would like to have sex with you. LOL
quote:Originally posted by jordanreed:
quote:Originally posted by Gordon Bennett: Rod Stewart was on Larry King a while back. He stated, matter-of-factly that with today's technology anyone can be a singer. It's true. Ever heard Pink or Janet Jackson sing without an Antares (realtime pitch corrector) on their vocal feed? They can't sing in tune at all!
ya...how bout Ashley fricken Simpson?
what a joke!!
Posted by jordanreed on :
Ian hunter or Mick Ronson??..on the Bowie album??...
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
Stevie Ray Vaughan, I believe.
Posted by jordanreed on :
i know there is some connection between Mott and Bowie, but i dont know what it is,..
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
Found this...
All The Young Dudes (1972) At this point David Bowie had become a megastar and decided to prove his multifaceted talents by producing other acts like Lou Reed (not coincidentally, the record kicks off with a solid cover of Reed's classic "Sweet Jane"). For Mott, the favor made all the difference. Bowie not only pushed them towards his own, energetic glam rock formula ("Momma's Little Jewel"; Allen's flakey "Soft Ground"), but added sax parts and even backup vocals to many of the recordings, and wrote the key hit song (title track). "All The Young Dudes" is not just the band's greatest moment, but arguably the most memorable hit of the whole glam-rock era, with Bowie's rebellious lyrics making it an early 70s teenage anthem. And there's yet another classic here: Ralphs' spotlight "Ready For Love," a leaden and repetitive, but catchy and uplifting rock song that became a blueprint for his later work with Bad Company (and was even re-recorded by them). Elsewhere everything is solid, almost always avoiding the self-absorbed, dissolute balladry that weakens their other records. There is one marginal orchestrated number ("Sea Diver," arranged by Ronson), but elsewhere they ride a plodding, riffy, giddy groove through one rocker after another - "Sucker," "Jerkin' Crocus," and "One Of The Boys" all rank with their best material. Get your hands on this if you have any interest in the band. (JA)
Posted by jordanreed on :
stevie would make sense
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
Bowie wrote "All The Young Dudes!" Who knew?
Posted by jordanreed on :
quote:Originally posted by Gordon Bennett: Found this...
All The Young Dudes (1972) At this point David Bowie had become a megastar and decided to prove his multifaceted talents by producing other acts like Lou Reed (not coincidentally, the record kicks off with a solid cover of Reed's classic "Sweet Jane"). For Mott, the favor made all the difference. Bowie not only pushed them towards his own, energetic glam rock formula ("Momma's Little Jewel"; Allen's flakey "Soft Ground"), but added sax parts and even backup vocals to many of the recordings, and wrote the key hit song (title track). "All The Young Dudes" is not just the band's greatest moment, but arguably the most memorable hit of the whole glam-rock era, with Bowie's rebellious lyrics making it an early 70s teenage anthem. And there's yet another classic here: Ralphs' spotlight "Ready For Love," a leaden and repetitive, but catchy and uplifting rock song that became a blueprint for his later work with Bad Company (and was even re-recorded by them). Elsewhere everything is solid, almost always avoiding the self-absorbed, dissolute balladry that weakens their other records. There is one marginal orchestrated number ("Sea Diver," arranged by Ronson), but elsewhere they ride a plodding, riffy, giddy groove through one rocker after another - "Sucker," "Jerkin' Crocus," and "One Of The Boys" all rank with their best material. Get your hands on this if you have any interest in the band. (JA)
YES!!!..i knew it!!
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
It sure sounds like Bowie's great glam style.
Posted by Sunnyside on :
ahhh, vinyl albums. Still got 'em and still play 'em. CDs just aren't the same.
Just about old enough to have the firsts for Janis, Doors, Cream, Tull, The Who, the Dead, Traffic. woo hoo, that certainly jogged this old brain.
Damn, I'm old.
Posted by jordanreed on :
thanks for findin that gordon..
my day is complete!!
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
Theyre also too damn small!
I used to love studying album covers for "hidden clues."
The (way before PhotoShop) graphics team at Hipgnosis was awesome. They did most of the great Pink Floyd covers, (like 'Animals' for example) and many many others.
quote:Originally posted by Sunnyside: ahhh, vinyl albums. Still got 'em and still play 'em. CDs just aren't the same.
Just about old enough to have the firsts for Janis, Doors, Cream, Tull, The Who, the Dead, Traffic. woo hoo, that certainly jogged this old brain.
Damn, I'm old.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Gordon Bennett: Stevie Ray Vaughan, I believe.
yup...I didn't realize that till a few years ago...
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
Speaking of Bowie and power ballads, I've always liked 'Starman' on Ziggy.
Posted by Up on :
quote:Originally posted by jordanreed: Ian hunter or Mick Ronson??..on the Bowie album??...
Saw Ian Hunter in Milwaukee shortly after he left Mott. Halfway through Once Bitten Twice Shy his trademark shades went flying off his head and into the audience. He stopped everything and ran back stage in a panic. Took about 15 minutes before he came back out, sporting a new pair of shades, and resumed everything.
Posted by jordanreed on :
double albums were great for siftin out the seeds..
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
With CD booklets they get caught in the staples. Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
Rotory connection
anybody remember? about 67-68
Posted by Up on :
How about No One To Run With by the Allman Brothers? Kind of a theme song for me.
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