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Posted by john wayne on :
 
Let's level this out a little Gordon.
 
Posted by john wayne on :
 
Gordon-
I wonder how many people would want to return to any war. And who could blame them if the answer were zero?
You know even serving in the best of wars don't compare to being home with your family.
 
Posted by Girls Gone Docile on :
 
I have five months left here, and no I will not work for the U.S. Government in any capacity ever again for the rest of my life.
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Stay safe, Girls Gone Docile. And john? I couldn't agree more.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Girls Gone Docile:
I have five months left here, and no I will not work for the U.S. Government in any capacity ever again for the rest of my life.

dude, the govt is not all bad...

but i know where you are coming from.....
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Ever hear the expression "close enough, for Government work?" LOL
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
there are alot of very good people working in the middle levels of the govt.


the problem right now is that they are suffering miserably from poor leadership and quite frankly? a fear of their bosses....

the Plame issue sent shock waves thru the civil service people... serious shock waves...
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
Has anyone here considered that there is a strong possibility that the shrubery is acting on a secret presidential order and reading the email of every soldier in Iraq as well as those back home and what a "wrong" response might do the their carreer?

These guys have absolutely no respect for the Constitution or the protections it supposedly grants to the people and I can only imagine how they would claim that military personel gave up any hope of rights when they joined (or were recalled against their wishes).
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
I would say that's a near certainty, bdgee.
 
Posted by Johnwayne on :
 
Christ, you guys are out there.
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
So you don't think soldiers' emails are being monitored; even with all the sensitive and potentially embarrassing information about the war they could impart to the media?
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
or that career civil service people are concerned?
 
Posted by andrew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
Has anyone here considered that there is a strong possibility that the shrubery is acting on a secret presidential order and reading the email of every soldier in Iraq as well as those back home and what a "wrong" response might do the their carreer?

These guys have absolutely no respect for the Constitution or the protections it supposedly grants to the people and I can only imagine how they would claim that military personel gave up any hope of rights when they joined (or were recalled against their wishes).


 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Since we're now quoting without comment ...

quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
So you don't think soldiers' emails are being monitored; even with all the sensitive and potentially embarrassing information about the war they could impart to the media?


 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
And ...

quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
or that career civil service people are concerned?


 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
We, that is, all "the people" as we are described in the Constitution, have good reasons to fear this bunch and most of those reasons are reasons that this Administration and the party lineing republicans in Congress have given us by their failure to respect the Constitution.
 
Posted by jordanreed on :
 
i'd say everything is being monitored..

"security reasons"...catchall
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
It would be naive to think otherwise; especially after Bush successfully blocked any investigation into his illegal wiretaps.

I'm sure that's seen as a blank check for the Administration.
 
Posted by john wayne on :
 
Coming up on 24 hours here Gordon and it looks very much like we are not getting a very big sample size for either one of our topics.
1 person said they do not want to go back to Iraq.
0 people said they wanted to go back to Iraq.

Hard to draw any conclusion from one vote I guess.
 
Posted by Girls Gone Docile on :
 
internet traffic is monitered to assure that classified information is not sent out, but there have also been ****s shut down that had the wrong viewpoints. There were several articles about the war****s that got popular last year and how they were shut down and one guy even got UCMJ action I believe. The bill of rights doesn't really apply to us, but then again most people in the military don't realize that they have the rights they do have and with a good lawyer I'm sure a lot of people could successfully fight some of the things that happen to them. Idk.
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
Girls Gone Docile,

Thanks for your input. I'm sad to reply that, from what you report, it isn't much different from what I suspected.

No one among "the people", as the Constitution refers to them, should have to fight for their Constitutionally granted rights. If they do, then this is not a democracy, by definition.
 


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