Flatly refuted Wilson's claim of smear campaign. He said leak was not intentional and leak was not given to him by a "political heavy hitter". Also said Rove only discussed Wilson with him for 20 seconds. Rove said "You know that too?" Novack also said he confirmed with someone in the Navy and that Wilsons wife was not a field operative. Sorry for sloppy writing.
Posted by Johnwayne on :
He disclosed the name because he was told "it was very unlikely she would ever go to Europe." Novack "No one in the admin. ever said anything critical to him about Wilson."
No report was ever written about Nigeria trip. And Wilson's wife suggested he be sent to Nigeria. The disclosure that his wife was a CIA agent was a throw away line in response to Novack asking why Wilson had been picked to go to Nigeria.
Posted by Johnwayne on :
Bill Harlow said Plame would never go overseas again. How was vhere life in danger. Novack- no one from the admin. ever initiated contact with him concerning this issue. Why the special prosecuter for this non-event?
Posted by Johnwayne on :
Chalk another one up for W.
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
Watched part of it too, Novac seemed to stumble just a tad...
Posted by Johnwayne on :
Well he sure looked like hell.
Posted by glassman on :
what did you expect to get on Brit Hume?
it's pretty late, but i'll give you one question to ask:
why did Rove say to Novak "OH you know that too"???
it makes no sense IF and i mean IF Novak was the only person this info was leaked to...
he wasn't... Novak's story doesn't hold water in several ways...
Rove's proper answer was "I can neither confirm nor deny"
this investigation was NOT and i cannot say that strongly enough NOT a wild goose chase... the CIA called for it... Ashecroft recused himself...
Plame was covert and Libby is under endictment and Rove was called to testify FIVE times...
what Novak is doing is damage control for the admin....
Posted by glassman on :
Bill Harlow said Plame would never go overseas again.
more BULL... Plame was part of a larger cover operation it wasn't just her azz on the line...
Posted by glassman on :
No report was ever written about Nigeria
that's not true either:
At the time, all IC analysts interviewed by Committee staff considered this initial report to be very limited and lacking needed detail. CIA, Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and Department of Energy (DOE) analysts considered the reporting to be "possible" while the Department of State's Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR) regarded the report as "highly suspect," primarily because INR analysts did not believe that Niger would be likely to engage in such a transaction and did not believe Niger would be able to transfer uranium to Iraq because a French consortium maintained control of the Nigerien uranium industry.
Only the CIA wrote a finished intelligence product on the report (Senior Executive Intelligence Brief [SEIB], Iraq: Nuclear-Related Procurement Efforts, October 18, 2001). Regarding the Niger reporting the SEIB said:
According to a foreign government service, Niger as of early this year planned to send several tons of uranium to Iraq under an agreement concluded late last year. Iraq and Niger had been negotiating the shipment since at least early 1999, but the state court of Niger only this year approved it, according to the service.
# There is no corroboration from other sources that such an agreement was reached or that uranium was transferred.
there was a lot of half truths spoken on that show.. i could rip it for several hours... it's getting late tho..
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
Glassman your 01:07 hrs. post....
Bingo!
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
Glassman your hero Tom Delay is on Kuuvootoe..LOL
Oh'O, here comes Ann Colter next..
Posted by glassman on :
B. Former Ambassador
( )Officials from the CIA's DO Counterproliferation Division (CPD) told Committee staff that in response to questions from the Vice President's Office and the Departments of State and Defense on the alleged Iraq-Niger uranium deal, CPD officials discussed ways to obtain additional information. who could make immediate inquiries into the reporting, CPD decided to contact a former ambassador to Gabon who had a posting early in his career in Niger.
it clearly states that Cheney went to the CIA and ordered the investigation that Wilson went on too..
when they say Cheney didn't send him? they are mincing words.... Cheney said send somebody he didn't name anybody in particular... another big lie...
man, they stack one lie on top of another until you have to have note cards just to keep track of 'em all...
Posted by glassman on :
Fox "News" LOL... i watch it Dust... it's kinda' sad people just accept these bozo's as journalists..they are salespeople...
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
I'm telling ya , one time Hannity po'd me so much i was boxing the screen! LOL
Posted by glassman on :
On March 1, 2002, INR published an intelligence assessment, Niger: Sale of Uranium to Iraq Is Unlikely. The INR analyst who drafted the assessment told Committee staff that he had been told that the piece was in response to interest from the Vice President's office in the alleged Iraq-Niger uranium deal. The assessment reiterated 1NR's view that France controlled the uranium industry and "would take action to block a sale of the kind alleged in a CIA report of questionable credibility from a foreign government service." The assessment added that "some officials may have conspired for individual gain to arrange a uranium sale," but considered President Tandja's government unlikely to risk relations with the U.S. and other key aid donors. In a written response to a question from Committee staff on this matter, the Department of State said the assessment was distributed through the routine distribution process in which intelligence documents are delivered to the White House situation room, but State did not provide the assessment directly to the Vice President in a special delivery.
( ) In early March 2002, the Vice President asked his morning briefer for an update on the Niger uranium issue. In response, on March 5, 2002, WINPAC analysts sent an analytic update to the briefer which noted that the government of Niger said it was making all efforts to ensure that its uranium would be used for only peaceful purposes. The update said the foreign government service that provided the original report "was unable to provide new information, but continues to assess that its source is reliable." The update also noted that the CIA would "be debriefing a source who may have information related to the alleged sale on March 5."
) The intelligence report based on the former ambassador's trip was disseminated on March 8, 2002. The report did not identify the former ambassador by name or as a former ambassador, but described him as "a contact with excellent access who does not have an established reporting record.
no reports were written? LOL
the Veep had to know his intel was bad.. Bush may not have been breifed...
if he wasn't? Tennet was working both sides of the fence tho...
Cheney and Tennet suposedly hated each other...
Posted by glassman on :
beginning to see why France was so skeptical about the war? The assessment reiterated 1NR's view that France controlled the uranium industry and "would take action to block a sale of the kind alleged in a CIA report of questionable credibility from a foreign government service."
they KNEW the nuke stuff was lies... they control the uranium industry...
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
Does W hunt with Cheney/ Thats quite an apple on Colter, didn't you say that? confirmed!
Posted by glassman on :
on this page here? they mention the "nonexistant report" at least five times....
you've just seen Rove doing what he does best.. you just didn't realise it was him: pay no attention to that man behind the curtain Posted by Johnwayne on :
Doesn't matter. Novack said no admin. smear tactics, Rove was not involved, the Libby deal has already been in the headlines. Off the table now as a campaign issue, no way to spin negatively without Novack's words stopping dem's. Right or wrong, more to the story or not, no headline grabber here. Stick a fork in this one boys.
Posted by glassman on :
LOL, wait til Libby gets back in the news some...
it's not your fault JW, you reported exactly what i heard too...Rove is good, very good (or bad, depending on your perspective)
i just happened to read the Senate Intel report a while back...
here's the whole deal...it's pretty long, but it is straightforwrd... there was no reason to use nukular in the state of the union...
there are suposedly several other reporters that were "given" the story too and didn't reoport it... that will come out soon enough..
Novak wants facetime with Dubya is my guess... he's trying to buy it with this press meeting at Humes office ...
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
This rings perfectly true! Novak couldn't possibly be covering the administration's and his own ass.
No way!
LOL
Posted by glassman on :
Rove told MSNBC's Chris Matthews that Plame was fair game, even as White House spokesman Scott McClellan was denying any White House role in the leak. "I'm telling you flatly that that is not the way this White House operates," the spokesman told reporters July 22. McClellan was usually careful to stress involvement in any illegal leak, though his public statements clearly left an impression of a White House aloof to the affair. Posted by glassman on :
e-mails surrendered by Time Inc., which are largely between Cooper and his editors, show that one of Cooper's sources was White House deputy chief of staff Karl Rove, according to two lawyers who asked not to be identified because they are representing witnesses sympathetic to the White House. Cooper and a Time spokeswoman declined to comment. But in an interview with NEWSWEEK, Rove's lawyer, Robert Luskin, confirmed that Rove had been interviewed by Cooper for the article. It is unclear, however, what passed between Cooper and Rove. Posted by glassman on :
yawn... there's at least 5 other reporters who refused to print the stroy...Novak was the only scumbag willing to do it..
Posted by glassman on :
one other thing Novak admitted...
he and Harlow disagree about what Harlow said to him about how secret this was.. Novak wanted Tennet to tell him not to...
Posted by bdgee on :
Novak is a lot like dubya. You can tell when he's about to lie by watching for his lips to move.
Posted by Johnwayne on :
Anybody see this in Newspaper Headlines this morning?
Posted by glassman on :
what is a newspaper? Posted by Johnwayne on :
Glass- you know what you can do with that tongue sticking out of your smiley face LOL!!!
Posted by bdgee on :
Come on now, everyone that believes Fox News is even honest, let alone fair and ballanced, stand up and wave your hands in the air, if you aren't driving. If you are driving, honk your horn so we will know you have had your daily ration of wild cherry.
Posted by glassman on :
i saw one in an antique shop once....
it was in the bottom of an old old bird cage....
wonder what they put in bird cages now?
Posted by bdgee on :
Junk mail....
Posted by Johnwayne on :
Befor I go ahead and just assume Novack, to my knowledge one of the most respected of the media, pulled a Cronkite or even a Rather, is there any history of NOvack doing something like this? Or even a history of Bush favoritism in his articles? I've never read much of his writings but he sure has been around a while. Also why would Rove tell some no name from Time but not Novack? That's like holding a press conference on CNBC instead of going ABC. Because Novack is much more known and respected. Is anyone aware if I can get a transcript of Rove saying fair game? I would like to see context. Also can someone speak to Novack's motive? Why would he risk his career? He's on Meet the Press every week, doesn't need more exposure.
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
Novak? One of the most repected of the media?!!
What are you smoking?
Posted by Johnwayne on :
Gordon-examples? I sincerely have never heard accusations of bias against him by either party.
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
You first. For what, exactly, is he "respected?"
Posted by glassman on :
slime trails all over the place...
In August 2004, after other journalists had reported on it, Novak admitted that his son, Alex Novak, is the Director of Marketing for the Swift Boat Veterans' publisher, Regnery Publishing. At the time he said that he didn't "think it relevant." Two months later Salon.com reported that Regnery's owner is also the publisher of Novak's own US$297 (annual rate) newsletter and that Novak is on the board of a foundation whose chief holdings are the stock of Regnery's parent company. Posted by glassman on :
Novak was using "advice of his lawyers" to refrain from discussing the Plame affair on air, but then turned around and wrote about it in his column...
Posted by glassman on :
On the May 14 05 edition of CNN's The Capital Gang, Novak responded to a question from panelist Al Hunt:
HUNT: Bob, why would Senator Frist refuse an offer [by Reid] to break the deadlock?
NOVAK: Because the whole system is that you're not going to have -- like going to a concentration camp and picking out which people go to the death chamber. You're not going to let the Democrats do that, say we're going to -- we're going to confirm this person, we're not going to confirm the other person. They're going to -- they're going to say that this is not the way we're going to do it. They've had all kinds of different offers of that kind. http://mediamatters.org/items/200505160001
Novak is a real upstanding guy....
still think he's an unbiased journalist?
he's right where he belongs at Fox....
Posted by Johnwayne on :
Guys- I must cede this point. I just spoke with my brother who confirmed the general thrust of your points about Novack. I'm Sorry. This damn Copenhagen gets me riled up sometimes!!!!
Posted by bdgee on :
JW,
You steep yourself in Fox News and the preachings of Ann Coulter the Plagerist and Fat Rush the Doper (and even seem to not be able to realize those are a bit more than just wee teensy fabricators) and, on their say so, jump up and down and describe anyone that doesn't regurgitate the Party Line in derogatoy and insulting ways.
You need to take a clean break from that BS and get some actual truth for about a month. Clean out your system, ya know, for the sake of your health.
May I suggest reading Conservatives Without Conscience by John Dean to while away the hours during the purge.
Posted by Johnwayne on :
HEY BDGEE COME ON OVER TO THE STEAK THREAD.
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
I concur. An excellent read.
quote:Originally posted by bdgee: May I suggest reading Conservatives Without Conscience by John Dean to while away the hours during the purge.
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