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Posted by Dustoff101 on :
 
Congress has turned on the heat, looks like the Port deal is over, done with, fini!!

Fat lady is singing!"""" Deliver me from this insanity!"""
 
Posted by Team Sleep on :
 
Yeah until Bush veto's the resolution...

Things are getting out of control... when terrorist nations are allowed to run U.S. ports, and Nation of Islam members are allowed to sit on hate crimes commissions, there's a real problem...
 
Posted by LEO on :
 
Wasn't that bill attached to one that would give more money to the war? Does that mean that didn't pass either?
 
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
 
If he does? the republican Party [the real one] will rebel....People have just flat out had it!
 
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
 
We are witness to one of the largest Congressional Meltdowns since Viet Nam.
 
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
 
Is this administration only capable of making wider Trade deficiets, is that all they know, "how" to screw up the works?
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
I just hope he tries a veto for that very reason.

quote:
Originally posted by Dustoff101:
If he does? the republican Party [the real one] will rebel....People have just flat out had it!


 
Posted by Team Sleep on :
 
From what I've read, he's going to veto. He hasn't backed away from that.

This is going to blow up in his face worse than when Harrington got his face blown up by Cheney.
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
The "announcement" from Warner is a face save for dubya. Warner (he is a pure Party uber alles Republican) is nothing but a mouthpiece for the Administration.....mostly for dubya.
 
Posted by Team Sleep on :
 
Lets just be glad that Bush got steamrolled by his own party for once. And lets be even more glad the ports will be run by Americans.

Hey bdgee, did you know one of the greatest bands ever in the history of music is from Ft. Worth?
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
I know more than one is. Which one did you have in mind?
 
Posted by Team Sleep on :
 
The Toadies! They were never a commercial success, but they just flat out rocked. Sadly, they broke up. A lot of their songs dealt with real life issues like religious abuse and relationships, but their stuff was heavy and catchy.

Which bands do you like from Ft. Worth?
 
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
 
Texans, Huh! When are you guys going to learn tha Oregon has the Biggest, Best, Fastest, slowest, least, most, greatest, worst, poorest, smartest, dumbest, and Richest of any other State....

I know this for a fact! You see, the above is little Ole Humble ME!

Also, I splels the bestus toe.
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
The Texas Playboys were originally formed in Ft. Worth before moving to Waco as the Light Crust Dough Boys and then San Antonio as the Texas Playboys. They (or should I say, Bob Wills) created an variety of music that still "swings". As they sing, "Bob Wills is still the king".
 
Posted by Team Sleep on :
 
Some good music has come out of Oregon. And a good deal of our money helps support all those wonderful Oregonians on welfare.

I really like the Portland area. It's beautiful and very clean. And even your heroin addicts are nice!
 
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
 
LMAO
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
'course it is, Dust..., but we hnow you also have the most modest ego ever too and we try not to embarrass you.
 
Posted by Team Sleep on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
The Texas Playboys were originally formed in Ft. Worth before moving to Waco as the Light Crust Dough Boys and then San Antonio as the Texas Playboys. They (or should I say, Bob Wills) created an variety of music that still "swings". As they sing, "Bob Wills is still the king".

I'm from Georgia originally and not familiar with Wills and his group. Are they rockabilly type stuff?
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
Ain't it pleasant to be able to banter with out the inturruption of thaat god awful hateful bashing!
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
Not quite.

http://elvis.rowan.edu/~klassen/songs_and_quotes/bob_wills.html
 
Posted by turbokid on :
 
yeah i heard something about them puting war budget or homeland security budget money with the port bill so that bush wouldnt veto it..
anyone know for sure..?
 
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
 
Turbo, yep, thats the scuttlebutt.
 
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
 
Looks like Bush backed down, all the way...
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Team Sleep:
quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
The Texas Playboys were originally formed in Ft. Worth before moving to Waco as the Light Crust Dough Boys and then San Antonio as the Texas Playboys. They (or should I say, Bob Wills) created an variety of music that still "swings". As they sing, "Bob Wills is still the king".

I'm from Georgia originally and not familiar with Wills and his group. Are they rockabilly type stuff?
more technically accurate might be western jazz...

btw, Team, some in Funkytown say that the Toadies' "Possum Kingdom" was...ahem..."inspired" by a song written by the band I used to manage...
 
Posted by Team Sleep on :
 
Well, that wouldn't surprise me. Todd Lewis (lead singer/songwriter) never would reveal much about Possum Kingdom.

So tell me more about this band and the song!
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
Hey, Tex, you tell the lad. You are a bit of an ex-spurt.

ex-spurt: A former drip under pressure.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Team Sleep:
Well, that wouldn't surprise me. Todd Lewis (lead singer/songwriter) never would reveal much about Possum Kingdom.

So tell me more about this band and the song!

not a huge deal, really; we had a studio and rented space to other bands; one of those bands included a guy who played drums for them for awhile--in their never-ending personnel changes--and he took one of our tapes over there, wherever they sat up. One song was notable for its time-sig changes--in fact, on one cassette we called it "Six Ate for Four," punning on the changes...

Actually, their version was prolly the better song. There was never any talk of legal action or anything, just the way stuff happens in a small community. We made our dough as a cover band, anyway, so it's just a tasty tid-bit of irony...
 
Posted by Team Sleep on :
 
Great story, thanks for sharing that! Possum Kingdom was a really good song... I am a little biased though, I really love the Toadies.

Todd Lewis had another band after the Toadies called Burden Brothers. I think they are defunct too.

I wonder what Todd's up to these days...
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
The "announcement" from Warner is a face save for dubya. Warner (he is a pure Party uber alles Republican) is nothing but a mouthpiece for the Administration.....mostly for dubya.

Warner isn't so bad...

ya wanna be afeared? take a look at George Allen, he's wanting to run in '08....
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Team Sleep:
Great story, thanks for sharing that! Possum Kingdom was a really good song... I am a little biased though, I really love the Toadies.

Todd Lewis had another band after the Toadies called Burden Brothers. I think they are defunct too.

I wonder what Todd's up to these days...

I don't know the song, but I do know Possum Kingdom. It's a large lake to the west of Fort Worth.
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
Careful about believing this "deal".

Neither Warner nor the company said they are out of it. What they did say is that they would "transfer operation to an American entity". It would be possible to transfer operation while maintaining ownership and control.

Then too, remember, Haliburton and the NY City Mafia are "American entities", as would be a hastilly set up corportion registered in Tennessee or Nevada, with undisclosed owners that, behind the protection of the law, are really the UAE..
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
if i had thre guess as to who is taking it over form them? i'd guess:
HAL
HAL
HAL
[Wink]
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
You developing a stutter, Glass...?
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
no, but it looks like i need to replace the batteries in my wireless keyboard [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Team Sleep on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
quote:
Originally posted by Team Sleep:
Great story, thanks for sharing that! Possum Kingdom was a really good song... I am a little biased though, I really love the Toadies.

Todd Lewis had another band after the Toadies called Burden Brothers. I think they are defunct too.

I wonder what Todd's up to these days...

I don't know the song, but I do know Possum Kingdom. It's a large lake to the west of Fort Worth.
The lyrics talk about being at a lake, and a boathouse.... You should check out the song if you can. Might not be your taste in your music, but it's good stuff.
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
Bush concerned about ports message
From REUTERS BUSINESS
Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:15 PM ET

By Steve Holland

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The collapse of efforts by a Gulf Arab company to manage U.S. ports may send a worrying message to Middle East allies, U.S. President George W. Bush said on Friday, a day after his stinging defeat on the deal.

"In order to win the war on terror, we have got to strengthen our relationships and friendships with moderate Arab countries in the Middle East," Bush told newspaper editors.

In a possible repercussion, the United Arab Emirates broke off talks on a free trade agreement with the United States the day after the ports deal fell apart.

Bush suffered an embarrassing defeat at the hands of his own Republican allies in the U.S. Congress when state-owned Dubai Ports World surrendered to unrelenting criticism and gave up trying to manage some terminals at six major U.S. ports.

The UAE company said it would transfer the ports to a U.S. entity at the behest of Dubai's ruler, to allay U.S. concerns that the deal posed a threat to American national security. Details of the transfer were not outlined.

A leading critic of the ports deal, New York Democratic Sen. Charles Schumer, said questions remained about the company's transfer of port operations to a still-unidentified U.S. entity and promised to keep pressing the issue.

"If things are as they appear, this is a great victory for national security. But make no mistake, we are going to scrutinize this deal with a fine-tooth comb to make sure the separation between American port operators and Dubai Ports World is complete and security is tight as a drum," Schumer said.

Dubai Ports Chairman Sultan Ahmed Bin Sulayem, asked whether the company would sell the management rights of the U.S. ports, told Reuters: "All this is being worked out by our parties in the States." He could not say immediately how separate the U.S. entity would be from Dubai Ports.

Gulf Arabs reacted bitterly to the company's decision, saying the political storm that forced the emirate's hand could provoke a backlash among regional investors.

"Do you think we are happy this morning? The mood is black, very, very black," said a senior official in the region involved in the Dubai Ports deal.

Bush, who had vowed to veto congressional efforts to block the deal, praised the UAE as a committed ally in the war on terrorism.

"I'm concerned about a broader message this issue could send to our friends and allies around the world, particularly in the Middle East," Bush said.

The U.S. Trade Representative's office said the United States and UAE had postponed free trade talks that had been set for next week.

Officials attempted to play down the move. "This is not unusual," said USTR spokeswoman Needa Moorjani. "Just in the past few months, we've postponed rounds with Ecuador three times, Panama twice and Colombia once."

House of Representatives Speaker Dennis Hastert, an Illinois Republican, said it was probably best for "both countries to kind of step back and evaluate a little bit. We'll move on from there."

Treasury Secretary John Snow said the political furor over the company's withdrawn bid was an isolated case, as he tried to limit the damage to the U.S. free-trade image.

He insisted the United States was still "open for business."

"I don't view this as anything but an isolated incident," Snow said in an interview with CNBC television. "We don't want to be isolationist. We don't want to turn our backs on the rest of the world."

Bush and Snow conceded that the approval process of the ports deal that led to bitter congressional opposition needed to be improved.

The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, headed by Snow, had approved the deal in a routine, quiet manner, and both Bush nor Snow had learned about it only after it was approved.

Democrats first complained, then Republicans leaped on it as well, not wanting to be seen as soft on national security during a congressional election year.

Larry Sabato, a political science professor at the University of Virginia, said congressional Republicans are running away from Bush this election year, and the port deal is the latest and most vivid example.

"In a way, the port deal was a godsend to them," Sabato said. "It allowed them to put a lot of daylight between themselves and a very unpopular president."

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg said the port debate has ignored the failure of the United States to adequately fund the U.S. Coast Guard.

"We complain about our ports being open to everybody -- but the Coast Guard is our first line of defense," Bloomberg told WABC Radio in New York.

A congressional Republican leadership aide said that among congressional Republicans "there was a certain level of outrage about how the whole matter was handled by the administration."

(Additional reporting by Thomas Ferraro, Susan Cornwell, Richard Cowan, Tim Ahmann, and Mark Egan in New York)
 
Posted by Team Sleep on :
 
Bush is sick in the head... he's more concerned with what the UAE thinks than what Americans think.

He's more concerned about appeasing wacko Muslims than he is about appeasing the USA. He should be charged with sedition!!!
 
Posted by bond006 on :
 
I am glad that Mr. Bush is concerned about the message that we are sending. Because I am concerned about it too. And I could not think of a worst message that we would send if we gave the operation of our ports to the UAE. The Arab peoples already think we are a soft people with no backbone that would sell our dirty heathen souls for a dime. I don't care personaly if we pay an American Co twice as much this does more good to our war effort than any thing we have done. It shows our resolve as a people , besides they need us and we really don't need them. Who cares what this 2 bit nations full of creeps that don't really down deep inside care for us I say screw them and send them packing in public humiliation and declare this an official American Holiday off with pay mandantory.
 
Posted by bond006 on :
 
And if Mr. Bush and his bunch that started this big mess of a war at leaste if they are not going to get us out of it stop acting like a bunch of shoe clerks smelling feet for a lousy 2 bucks a throw. And act like they have the courage of a pfc who they are putting in harms way and get this thing over with with some respect for our troops never let them come home with there heads hung low as these savages laugh at us and run our ports
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
The ultimate perp walk would be the entire Bush Administration being lead from the White House in chains.
 
Posted by turbokid on :
 
that would be nice but more of the same kind of guys would get "elected" into office and pull some other kind of nonsense or scam.

why else would you be in politics... the pay? ha!
(well, i mean the "offical pay" not the backdoor dealings and buddy buddy bribes and partnerships) [Smile]
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
I can't disagree with that...
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
I could disagree, but I won't.

Quoting an owner of the cartel that dubya see is funded decades in the future, "Wouldn't be prudent.".
 
Posted by Gordon Bennett on :
 
The government needs an overhaul. A clean sweep.
 
Posted by bond006 on :
 
Who knows who the American people would put in . To me this last time when I saw the debates and heard some of what Bush had in plan out of his own mouth I said who would be dumb enough to vote for this moron. Well the proof is in the pudding. I have not heard or seen of such blind mass sheep heard instinct in my life. And to have it happen to America is beyond me. With all the cuts in education I don't blieve we will get much more the next time around.
 


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