they aren't really black....
Posted by DiQuiRiesco on :
They aren't really holes.
Posted by kevin954 on :
they might not even exist
Posted by Kate on :
My, what a profound thread! Posted by glassman on :
something is missing Kate, i just can't figger out what....
Posted by Lucy Lastic on :
my ass?
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
A yellow submarine....and the acid.
Posted by Lucy Lastic on :
stephen hawking.
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
tried to catch a black horse at night, is that where that damn horse went till morning?
Posted by Ktrain420 on :
i seen um.......
Posted by keithsan on :
I like em pink but i'll take em black
Posted by Swampman on :
Might be where my profits have gone lately
Posted by Blue#1 on :
Ahem...this thread is hard to follow....anyway, they aren't really black, they aren't really a hole, and they might not exist, but what is for certain is there maybe one on the bottom of my ass.
Posted by Art on :
Excerpted from news@nature.com
Published online: 31 March 2005; | doi:10.1038/news050328-8
Black holes 'do not exist' by Philip Ball
These mysterious objects are dark-energy stars, physicist claims, may in fact be pockets of 'dark energy'.
According to a physicist at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California, these awesome breaches in space-time do not and indeed cannot exist.
Over the past few years, observations of the motions of galaxies have shown that some 70% the Universe seems to be composed of a strange 'dark energy' that is driving the Universe's accelerating expansion.
George Chapline thinks that the collapse of the massive stars, which was long believed to generate black holes, actually leads to the formation of stars that contain dark energy. "It's a near certainty that black holes don't exist," he claims.
Black holes are predicted by Einstein's general theory of relativity, which explains gravity as the warping of space-time caused by massive objects. The theory suggests that a sufficiently massive star, when it dies, will collapse under its own gravity to a single point.
But Einstein didn't believe in black holes, Chapline argues. "Unfortunately", he adds, "he couldn't articulate why." At the root of the problem is the other revolutionary theory of twentieth-century physics, which Einstein also helped to formulate: quantum mechanics.
In general relativity, there is no such thing as a 'universal time' that makes clocks tick at the same rate everywhere. Instead, gravity makes clocks run at different rates in different places. But quantum mechanics, which describes physical phenomena at infinitesimally small scales, is meaningful only if time is universal; if not, its equations make no sense.
This problem is particularly pressing at the boundary, or event horizon, of a black hole. To a far-off observer, time seems to stand still here. A spacecraft falling into a black hole would seem, to someone watching it from afar, to be stuck forever at the event horizon, although the astronauts in the spacecraft would feel as if they were continuing to fall. "General relativity predicts that nothing happens at the event horizon," says Chapline.
However, as long ago as 1975 quantum physicists argued that strange things do happen at an event horizon: matter governed by quantum laws becomes hypersensitive to slight disturbances. "The result was quickly forgotten," says Chapline, "because it didn't agree with the prediction of general relativity. But actually, it was absolutely correct."
This strange behaviour, he says, is the signature of a 'quantum phase transition' of space-time. Chapline argues that a star doesn't simply collapse to form a black hole; instead, the space-time inside it becomes filled with dark energy and this has some intriguing gravitational effects.
Outside the 'surface' of a dark-energy star, it behaves much like a black hole, producing a strong gravitational tug. But inside, the 'negative' gravity of dark energy may cause matter to bounce back out again. --------------------------------------------
Art: Ron Pearson has some interesting ideas as to the nature of existence:
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